[08:14] morning [08:55] Morning all [09:12] Morning all [09:19] hey davmor2 diplo [09:22] MORNING knightwise [09:22] oop sorry about the caps there [09:29] Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Loosen Up, Lighten Up Day! 😁 [09:33] Well that woke me up davmor2 :) [09:42] been rediscovering the awesomeness of my chromebook this weekend [09:45] morning boys and girls. [09:46] * knightwise salutes the magnificent brobostigon [09:48] :D [09:52] i installed neverware on a laptop but didn't really get on with it [09:52] i felt too exposed [09:52] and uncomfortable about tying my gmail account so closely to a device === Darkstar is now known as Guest37590 [09:54] foobarry: I use the chromebook for my business account and the chroot for my personal stuff === layke is now known as Guest76998 [12:37] i think it's about supermoon time in an hour [12:38] i strolled out last night to see how it was coming along - the patch of sky it was in was so bright it looked like a blue sky in just a single patch - http://i.imgur.com/bolYEhH.jpg [12:40] http://imgur.com/a/9QiML couple more there [12:54] all4 you SUCK [12:54] o0 [12:54] tablet out of juice and cannot watch on computer due to spinning wheel of death on linux [12:54] Wat [12:55] channel4 sucky iplayer ripoff [12:55] Who here is on a train [12:55] so it's not really the service but that you're trying to use it from Linux as usual :> [12:55] wel;l it took 10 mins to login [12:55] then realised i need flash [12:55] then adblocker disabling [12:55] then it still doesn't work [12:56] Theres a guy on this train with ubuntu laptop, ubuntu tablet, and ubuntu phone and hes writing an ubuntu app with qt creator and the ubuntu sdk [12:56] not me [12:56] does he have a beard [12:56] and black tshirt [12:56] No [12:57] does not sound legit [12:57] is there a secret ubuntu handshake? [12:57] yes [12:57] Yes but i dont know it [12:57] that's because it's secret [12:57] https://ubuntunigeria.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ubuntu_610.jpg?w=460 [12:58] if you can manage that on a train then kudos... [12:59] looks like it would involve touching the floor of the train.. [12:59] Its relatively clean i am in 1st class [13:00] oooooh, posh.... [13:00] shoulder surf his github repo? [13:00] then call the concierge and get a formal introduction... :-P [13:00] check in ubuntu-phone channel? [13:00] Or i could packet sniff the wifi [13:01] i never understood why anyone bothered to pay for 1st [13:01] or you know, you could be a human being and introduce yourself... [13:01] via irc [13:02] You get a free cup of tea and you dont stick to the seats [13:02] are they wearing one of those talk to me badges handed out on the tube? [13:03] heh i just got a letter from the local gov warning me they're considering road resurfacing nearby... in November 2017 [13:03] colleague is kicking the desk in time to music. tad annoying [13:03] well they have to chuck out the traffic cones and diversion signs 6 months before actually doing the work... :-) [13:04] :D it's a funny little street down here that should really just be pedestrianised same as the high street [13:05] which it leads onto [13:06] ali1234: where in the world is this train? [13:06] if they did that then people wouldn't be able to abandon their cars there when they want to go to the predestrianised area... [13:06] flexiondotorg: are you on a train right now? :) [13:09] Uts not flexion i know what he looks like [13:09] ok [13:09] describe them :) [13:09] is it creepy to ask for a hpoto [13:09] Lol [13:10] he's in first class, he can get an official engraving of the passengers for a small fee... [13:11] Er... Hes got brown hair? [13:12] * daftykins facepalms [13:12] Looks like a developer [13:12] but no beard? [13:12] pny tail? [13:12] shoes or sandals? how serious a developer.... :-) [13:12] rms tattoo? [13:12] No, developer not sysadmin [13:13] suit? [13:13] wonder if it's a canonical person or not [13:13] we have a bunch of UK based people [13:13] eliminate them all one by one [13:13] change your text notification to the ubuntu bongos and ask someone to text you [13:14] well, I suspect it's not you Laney :) [13:14] #1: it's not me [13:14] #2: It's not me [13:14] My money is on chrisccoulson [13:14] (this may take a while) [13:14] ali1234: is it a monster size laptop? [13:14] only if speaking is disallowed [13:14] A bit [13:14] like, not a lightweight thing like a macbook, but a chunky big battery thing [13:14] Nah [13:15] oh, is it plugged in? if so, deffo chris, his battery is knackered [13:15] play this out loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qd_CX01sYg [13:15] No [13:15] oooh [13:15] Also i know what he looks like too [13:15] I think [13:16] This is the best game ever [13:16] "Nerd guess who" [13:16] glasses? [13:16] No [13:16] it's not me either ;) [13:16] haha [13:16] boo [13:16] below 35? [13:17] Probably but i am terrible at guessing ages [13:17] facial hair? [13:17] No [13:17] pete woods maybe [13:17] get a peek at the app [13:18] It looks like a physics sim with boxes in 2d [13:18] ooh, dan wood [13:18] community guy [13:18] you should use avatar software to make a model of the person instead of taking a pic... :-) [13:19] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FyzqhiMH0oB8a76wMARxeI65vc_RAABiP-xSMb_K0S7Vw78W6d_wgQW1__yZh2iRpkHuvtYO1RQ=w2324-h1307-rw-no [13:19] him? [13:19] No [13:19] dammit [13:20] make/model of laptop? [13:21] Hp [13:21] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U0-8Ie1cyBuOVR0A3raTraVf5Y7OnDKqBWByIWz1F0o=s630-fcrop64=1,202b2ec9dfa0d135 maybe? [13:22] does he look like anyone else we might know? [13:23] That might actually be him [13:23] * popey asks him [13:25] he said it's not [13:25] haha [13:26] * guy packs up and dives off the moving train [13:26] people that look similar to pete woods ... [13:26] He actually did get up and walk down the train [13:26] did he leave his laptop? [13:26] (user name on login screen) :D [13:26] Yes but hes back now [13:26] bah [13:27] He closed it [13:27] Obviously it would be far too easy to just ask him :) [13:27] any stickers on the laptop? [13:27] "Hello, we're playing a game" :) [13:27] Ew hes signing in to outlook web app [13:27] corporate dude [13:27] Not canonical then i guess [13:27] maybe he's a stuedent at a uni [13:27] or phd [13:27] might be required by a workplace/college [13:27] Could be [13:27] try and read the username [13:28] I wonder when this crosses a line [13:28] probably at trying to read text on his screen [13:28] About 10 mins ago :D [13:28] ^ [13:28] it has for a while now - i'd almost rather join a US politics channel [13:28] :D [13:28] when you use liquid nitrogen to freeze his ram so that you can read it? :-P [13:28] hahah [13:28] is it mark shuttleworth in disguise? [13:28] Just walk over to the guy and introduce yourself, I've had people do it to me before [13:28] We're a nice bunch [13:28] hey nice phone [13:29] could be rms though [13:29] which ubuntu phone model is it? [13:29] It might get awkward since i dont actually use ubuntu any more... [13:29] Dunno its in a case [13:30] Wireshark it is then... :P [13:31] will arp tell you his laptop name? [13:31] I sunno ii only have an android tablet on me anyway [13:31] termux ! [13:32] termux is quite good [13:34] you will have to ask at some point to satisfy curiosity of 30 geeks in irc [13:38] i like to think it's a good sign that a random geek on a train doesn't know every member of a small community... [13:39] Indeed [13:39] popey, No, why? [13:39] how many ubuntu phones have been sold? [13:40] 42 [13:41] which is joey OMG so butthurt about ubuntu phones? [13:41] * daftykins wonders what foobarry means [13:42] some twitter comments he's mae about ubuntu phone have been very snarky [13:42] who? [13:42] joey from OMGubtunutntu [13:43] Its kind of hard to say anything about it without sounding snarky tbh [13:44] flexiondotorg: nvm :) [13:44] foobarry: didn't know he was specifically snarky about ubuntu phone. [13:44] i'll find an exmaple [13:45] he is of course entitled to his opinion :) [13:46] https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/793091533805412354 [13:46] of course. it seems personal though [13:47] Is he not makinng a joke about everyone saying its dead all the time? [13:47] not from his previous comments [13:47] There like a post every day on redsit saying is it dead? [13:49] there is a tone to any phone comments he makes that sound quite anti. prehaps he didn't get a review copy and bore a grudge. i dunno [13:50] Maybe it just sucks [13:51] the amount of youtube videos i've seen that get a battery pop up "5 mins remaining" [13:51] I was not impressed tbh [13:51] and i'm looking at the time left. are they gonna finish before shutdown? [13:52] Battery life seemed okay to me [13:52] sorry i changed track already. i was just watching a video by a kid on his laptop [13:52] he got the battery popup about 30secs into the vid [13:52] Lol [13:53] foobarry: that seems like humour to me :) [13:53] If the battery ran out before they finiahed they wouldnt be able to up [13:53] Load it [13:54] popey: in isolation but not in context of other offthe cuff comments he makes [13:54] Fair enough [13:54] i think he has a column in LXF this month [13:54] shame about linux voice [13:54] i find LXF and others so formulaic. [13:55] Linux voice makes me think of the scientist from simpsons [13:55] "you insensitive clod!" [13:56] it does sound a bit like an activist political wing too [13:57] it had a stupid name before voice. can't recall what it was though [13:57] Linux is just a terrible topic to have to make a mag about [13:58] of a newspaper column [13:58] Youre nwver going to get a scoop because everything is done in pub [13:58] *or [13:58] Iic [13:58] So the news swction is always going to be a month out of date [13:58] That leaves ... Tutorials? [13:59] yep badly written little guides that are outdated within say, 2 months :D [14:00] Depends on the topic but if, say, you can write 12 really good tutorials for a series you could just publish it as a book instead [14:00] the trouble with magazines is that they are often written by pseuds rather than experts [14:01] Still better than blogs [14:01] here's an article about "screen". but it goes into enough detail for a beginner and nothing else [14:01] great bathroom reading if the wifi is weak or the battery is knackered :-) [14:02] They could review commercial softqare... Lol [14:02] That qould go down well i am sure [14:03] Although that is probably exactly what linux needs [14:03] There ia loads of commercial software for linux that nobody knows about [14:12] although i like reading, i didn't have the strength to read a board game instructions and rules the other day so i wen to on youtube for someone to explain to me how to play it [14:40] ali1234 must have gone into a tunnel :-) [14:41] or bludgeoned for stalking [14:41] or trying to get a photo [14:42] foobarry: I do the same for things like fixing my washing machine. way easier to watch someone else take it apart than read the manual [14:42] the board game in question was scotland yard [14:42] quite fun. reminds me of the adventure game on BBC2 in the 80s [14:42] oh that one that's on humble bundle [14:42] yes, i have it irl too [14:43] i also have lord of the rings risk [14:43] which i have never opened. [14:43] my wife actually wanted to play board games for date night on saturday [14:44] she's more geek that me (relatively normal) [14:44] my colleagues don't think i'm normal cos i have hobbies [14:56] :D [14:57] friend of mine from the US was so keen on board games she brought some over to the island XD [15:00] which ones? [15:01] ticket to ride [15:02] i saw that for a quid at the white elephant stall and didn't get it. been sad ever since [15:03] can't buy for full price now , since i know i missed a bargain [15:06] crikey: http://gizmodo.com/earthquake-leaves-cows-stranded-on-a-tiny-piece-of-gras-1788945457 [15:06] nevermind this is the source vid: https://youtu.be/LCXv9lhlIwU [15:18] aww poor cowses [15:32] !cowsay moo [16:04] apt-get moo [16:07] apt moo :P [16:07] 'apt' just needs clean and purge and i'd forget all about apt-get [16:12] daftykins: it has [16:14] :-o [16:15] I know it got autoremove a short while ago [16:16] ergh dark already [16:16] well i don't see anything on the man page here on trusty [16:16] winter sucks [16:17] but just think how much better about doing the things indoors you feel, when it's all rainy and windy! [16:17] you assume I go outside [16:18] <-- hermit [16:18] diddledan, daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23476261/ [16:18] davmor2: sudo make me a sandwich [16:18] E: Invalid operation clean [16:19] davmor2: are you on xenial? [16:19] daftykins: no [16:19] what, then? because i'm on trusty and get the above [16:19] daftykins: it's in 16.10 and 17.04 [16:19] zesty zits? [16:19] davmor2: right so it's totally moot to claim it's there when it's version specific :P [16:19] * diddledan pops some zips [16:20] zits* [16:20] messy [16:20] :-p [16:20] I never suffered with zits [16:20] daftykins: and total moot saying it isn't when you are on an older version :P [16:20] now now, childers [16:20] :-p [16:20] LTS > non-LTS [16:21] davmor2: you don't provide support much, do you? [16:21] :) [16:21] daftykins: how often do folk turn-up with 12.10? [16:21] :-p [16:22] Yes I provide lots of support that's why your system runs at all :D [16:22] or 6.06:-p [16:22] 12.10 is EOL [16:22] exactly [16:22] davmor2: jokes on you! i don't use it [16:23] honestly though, you have to be specific about versions if you're gonna claim something does work [16:23] diddledan: bit different to start bringing up stuff that's EOL o0 [16:24] it was in response to the providing support bit [16:24] mind you i know this guy who refuses to move off 10.04... i think he keeps patching stuff by hand to avoid doing what needs to be done [16:24] I was curio how many folk are on ancient stuff and still complaining that it isn't in their version yet [16:26] heh, then they add "oh and btw i keep getting these errors trying to update..." [16:28] "apt-get is broken" <-- read: "I'm running RHEL" [16:29] you say that but i did actually regularly get CentOS users coming in to try and get support [16:29] they'd pastebin something and show their bash prompt with the [] and i'd know XD [16:29] then they'd ask how as if i were somehow psychic [16:30] I'm psychic [16:30] no, wait, I'm psychotic [16:31] diddledan: you're telepathetic [16:31] ^^ +1 [16:31] bit harsh :O [16:32] powershell is 10 years old?! [16:33] daftykins: he called himself a psycho I just said he was bad at telepathy I think diddledan is being harsh on himself ;) [16:34] it's looking really grey out there and i'm expecting someone to show up and take all this old hardware i've cobbled together... no sign yet! hope he hasn't forgotten... [16:34] well to be fair, I am actually diagnosed as a nutjob :-p [16:34] your mother had you tested? [16:35] I had myself tested [16:36] started-out as plain depression but evolved to a diagnosis of "depressive psychosis" :-D [16:36] what if you were bias reading the results!? [16:36] diddledan: wearing a squirrel outfit because all you clothes need washing doesn't make a nut job ;) [16:36] loll [16:36] no, that would make me a student :-p [16:37] diddledan: no they couldn't afford the squirrel outfit [16:37] although, now I need to buy me a squirrel outfit [16:37] hahahaha [16:37] thanks for the tip :-D [16:51] * davmor2 expects to see diddledan next Halloween in a squirrel outfit or a bookcase outfit displaying various Nuts (Complete Nut Case) you're welcome if you need anymore outfit ideas just drop by ;) [16:52] ooh i doubt he'd wait 'til such an occasion [16:53] diddledan: i vote we christen you the Cadbury's Fruit & Nut fairy [16:55] daftykins: now I got this stuck in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJMAVfkI0io [16:58] i think that was diddledan in the caber! [16:58] wow i never saw that one though, at least to my memory [17:03] lol, yup, I'm the fruity nutjob [17:03] * diddledan gets fruity [17:03] great, the guy at my local College said he had asked students to come and get this gear off me - now he's trying to suggest tomorrow [17:04] bah [17:04] that's sucky [17:05] ikr, try and do a favour... [17:10] https://twitter.com/sfbookclub/status/798113020152926209 [17:11] ah yay the guy is gonna bring a car for 7 \o/ [18:50] !parrotsay diddledan want a cracker [18:50] zmoylan-pi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:14] yay the guy came and got everything \o/ [19:14] at last it is done [19:24] now you have space for crimbo tree :-) [19:43] haha, still don't own one [22:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhP8EKqReAg [22:35] tis the season diddledan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkF7fpw-wI