[00:37] <xubuntu18i> Hello?
[00:37] <xubuntu18i> ...
[01:15] <perla> Hi. I am new to Xubuntu. I don't know why the software application appears empty.
[01:16] <bazhang> is this a just installed situation
[01:17] <perla> Yes, bazhang.
[01:17] <bazhang> have you run apt update and apt upgrade yet
[01:17] <perla> Not yet.
[01:17] <bazhang> then do that
[01:17] <perla> Ok.
[01:19] <perla> While that gets done, bazhang, it occurs to me that the list shouldn't be empty, anyways. Should it?
[01:20] <bazhang> did you have online upgrades whil installing or do it later
[01:21] <perla> I think I chose to install the updates on the fly.
[01:22] <bazhang> well if there is currently a process running with respect to apt update and apt upgrade then its notempty
[01:22] <perla> I will find out about that as soon as apt upgrade finishes.
[01:23] <perla> By the way, how can I activate the suspension when the lid is closed?
[01:25] <bazhang> thats going to happen as a matter of fact
[01:25] <perla> I hope so.
[01:25] <bazhang> did you want the computer to still be on an running when the lid is down
[01:25] <perla> No.
[01:25] <bazhang> what an odd question
[01:26] <perla> Perhaps it is because I already tried it.
[01:26] <perla> But with the live CD.
[01:29] <bazhang> if the lid is closed, how were you able to ascertain the system was still up and running
[01:30] <bazhang> was it the live cd spinning in the optical drive sound
[01:32] <perla> Because there's always a lag, bazhang. That's pretty obvious.
[01:33] <bazhang> on the live cd?
[01:35] <perla> On any laptop whose lid you lift.
[01:36] <bazhang> has the apt update and apt upgrade process finished yet
[01:36] <perla> Not yet.
[01:36] <bazhang> is it at the processing packages state yet
[01:36] <perla> Indeed.
[01:37] <bazhang> should be bery soon
[01:37] <bazhang> and very
[01:37] <perla> Yup.
[01:37] <perla> Done. Now what?
[01:39] <bazhang> apt-cache search packagename
[01:39] <perla> That has nothing to do with the graphical app.
[01:40] <bazhang> if you have not done so, you will presumably want to play videos music youtube etc
[01:41] <perla> I want to be able to install software from the graphical app. I it still useless now.
[01:41] <bazhang> the apt-cache search has everything to do with the graphical app
[01:42] <bazhang> the first step in troubleshooting it is to close it
[01:42] <perla> Yes, bazhang, but I want the front end to work. I don't care about CLI commands since this machine is for someone who isn't acquainted with them.
[01:43] <bazhang> so lets proceed as the method I am suggesting now
[01:44] <perla> I'm installing Synaptic now, but OK.
[01:44] <bazhang> you want to fix it so they can use it via the gui
[01:44] <perla> Yes.
[01:44] <bazhang> synapic is completely unneeded
[01:44] <perla> Shouldn't be broken, for starters,
[01:45] <perla> I'm open to options that don't entail the CLI.
[01:45] <bazhang> you never did the initial update and upgrade
[01:45] <perla> I already completed it.
[01:45] <bazhang> thats not broken, thats the nature of things
[01:45] <bazhang> close the graphical app as you put it
[01:45] <bazhang> dont bother with synaptic
[01:46] <perla> Done.
[01:47] <bazhang> did you want the graphical app to be populated with such items that allow for mp3 playback videos yt and such, or have them already for the user as they start out
[01:48] <perla> It is populated, but when I click on anything, I only get the spinning wheel.
[01:48] <bazhang> it should be shut now
[01:48] <perla> It is.
[01:49] <bazhang> so did you want to set it up for them ready out of the box to go with those things, or leave it for them to do it
[01:50] <perla> I expect that when I install a fresh distro all its components are working.
[01:52] <bazhang> due to certain copyright restrictions a single metapackage will have to be installed
[01:52] <bazhang> you can do it now, or leave them to do it
[01:52] <perla> It should be working now.
[01:53] <bazhang> its not going to be without that
[01:53] <perla> You're not being of much help so far.
[01:54] <bazhang> you have some mighty odd expectations on what a fresh xubuntu install is like
[01:54] <perla> Perhaps.
[01:54] <bazhang> drivers and such are not going to installed by themselves
[01:54] <perla> Any decent distro would install working stuff. I don't know about Xubuntu.
[01:55] <bazhang> perhaps your only experience is with MINT or the like
[01:55] <perla> That is irrelevant, bazhang. I want solutions.
[01:56] <bazhang> state your needs to the channel
[01:56] <bazhang> I have to go elsewhere
[01:56] <perla> I did so half an hour ago.
[01:56] <bazhang> good luck
[01:57] <perla> If you can't offer real help then there's no point in making me waste my time.
[02:17] <MissyVixen> i wanted to ask if people have experianced odd issues of Xubuntu 16 installing fine, and booting, until its first update. At which point Grub Fails to load any os and just outputs "grub grub grub" at the top of the display?
[12:21] <FireStriker_> Um I need help
[12:22] <FireStriker_> How do you force close a program
[12:26] <sorokinvic> via menu > system > task manager
[12:26] <FireStriker_> Can't enter the menu
[12:26] <FireStriker_> Stuck in a game
[12:29] <sorokinvic> press ctrl + alt + f1 -- goes to text console, then login and type ps -ef | fgrep -i name_of_game, this gives list of processeses named like your game, pick game pid (2nd column), and type kill -9 pid. Or just restart whole X system (but this could lose any data you had in open editors / browsers,etc) -- sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[12:29] <sorokinvic> to return to X, press ctrl + alt + f7
[12:32] <FireStriker_> http://i.imgur.com/uLYE0fL.jpg
[12:36] <FireStriker_> That did something
[12:36] <FireStriker_> Fixed
[12:36] <FireStriker_> Thanks
[13:57] <xubuntu50i> hi. How do configure connexion of users but on a domain, not on localhost ?
[14:19] <p00l3> I was here 29 october with missing key input issue. Now finally i found the reason. Single key keyboard shortcut was made for terminal(dead_caron) which disabled ä key(keycode 48 where in(xmodmap -pk) long line also dead_caron was implemented. I can't make single key shortcut in xubuntu?
[18:23] <xubuntu92w> anyone there?
[21:20] <shewfig> Hi, I just did a 'sudo apt upgrade', upgraded apt, and now I'm getting sig error when doing a 'sudo apt update', even after a reboot.
[21:21] <shewfig> version 16.04
[21:35] <shewfig> I'm getting signature errors from archive.ubuntu.com, anyone else seeing this?
[23:43] <kraaijmakers> goodevening
[23:44] <knome> hello
[23:45] <kraaijmakers> what version of nvidia driver is recommended to use with Xubuntu and NVIDIA GTX980?I've had some different distro's and maybe one of you know the recommended version? Or should I just install the one from ubuntu-drivers?
[23:46] <knome> just use what's available
[23:46] <kraaijmakers> OK, you don't recommend adding the ubuntu graphics PPA?
[23:47] <knome> if the version from the regular repository works without problems. why would you use something else?
[23:48] <kraaijmakers> Apparantly it's a quite recent one from the regular repository nowadays :o
[23:48] <kraaijmakers> Thanks ;)
[23:48] <knome> np