=== noy_ is now known as noy === noy_ is now known as noy === noy_ is now known as noy === JanC is now known as Guest44518 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:01] o/ [16:02] beisner has a conflict so i'll chair again [16:02] o/ [16:02] unless anyone else wants to volunteer? [16:02] :) [16:02] o/ [16:02] sorry for being a bit late [16:02] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:02] Meeting started Tue Nov 15 16:02:56 2016 UTC. The chair is jgrimm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:02] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: [16:03] no worries, light turnout today it looks like [16:03] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:03] (jgrimm) email jamepage -> checkin with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels [16:04] not done. :/ will get that sent out today so this action can finally go away [16:04] (jgrimm) email to ubuntu-devel about powerpc arch future. [16:04] i held off on doing this ^^ as the tech board has picked this up [16:05] o/ [16:05] and is in the process of talking to powerpc interested parties to see whether they'll pick up and own burden of the work (as debian is dropping the arch) [16:06] so i'm going to treat that one as done, except to watch what happens at the TB [16:06] #link https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/11/08/%23ubuntu-meeting-2.txt [16:07] if interested ^^ [16:07] #topic Zesty Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Zesty Development [16:07] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule [16:08] thank you for everyone that updated the blueprint and snagged workitems already [16:08] #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core [16:08] is there anything anyone wants to discuss with zesty? [16:08] jgrimm: that Zesty link doesn't get to a schedule for me [16:08] oh [16:09] don't think the page has been created yet [16:09] yeah, odd [16:09] most of the zesty pages were not up when I updated links [16:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/DraftReleaseSchedule [16:09] yeah, i assumed it would be updated by now [16:09] thanks rharper [16:09] anyway, back to discussion, anything? [16:10] nothing for me [16:10] a good number of merges being worked, happy to see that [16:10] and i know cpaelzer has worked out plans around libvirt & qemu merges [16:11] jgrimm: oh, the /boot work is being done by foundations (xnox has the task) ; in particular, /boot isn't needed for lvm installs [16:11] rharper, cool, we can just track it then [16:11] bug 1639801 [16:11] bug 1639801 in partman-auto-lvm (Ubuntu) "we should not create separate /boot partition for LVM+GRUB" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639801 [16:11] yeah [16:11] thanks!! [16:12] rharper, done, celebrated on http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2016/11/boot-less-lvm-rootfs-in-zesty.html [16:12] please +1 on google plus too [16:12] xnox: \o/ [16:12] xnox, nice!! \o/ [16:12] rharper, info if ppc64el can boot off LVM is needed though. I am suspecting that it might be possible to enable ppc64el as well. [16:12] i doubt that arm* with u-boot can do it, generically on all boards. [16:12] i think if they can multipath, they should be able to lvm [16:13] xnox, maybe engage folks that hang out on #ubuntu-powerpc? [16:13] we can certainly poke IBM for petiteboot changes if needed (it's linux anyhow) [16:13] well, multipath is "pick any, and use readonly" they look the same. [16:13] jgrimm, oooh, that's a thought. [16:13] xnox, well, ppc64el boots via either grub2 or petitboot [16:13] ibmers hanging out there that should know [16:13] grub2 probably does work, id' be surprised if it had arch specific errors. [16:13] petitboot i dont know. [16:14] anything else? [16:14] #subtopic Release Bugs [16:14] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server [16:15] a couple new ones on that list that i haven't read yet [16:15] late o/ (needed all screens for a huge three way diff - sorry) [16:15] thanks jgrimm for covering me [16:16] looks like they have owners, so i'll leave them alone [16:16] no worres cpaelzer [16:16] #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) [16:17] #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou) [16:17] Active SRU list : [16:17] LP: #1447715 - dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address [16:17] - Series to SRU : xenial [16:17] LP: #1515278 - [SRU] rabbit queues should expire when unused [16:17] - Series to SRU : trusty [16:17] Launchpad bug 1447715 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Xenial) "dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447715 [16:17] Launchpad bug 1515278 in oslo.messaging (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] rabbit queues should expire when unused" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515278 [16:17] LP: #1640275 - move nvme driver to linux-image [16:17] - Series to SRU : trusty [16:17] LP: #1640382 - Segfault event notifier because of race condition [16:17] - Series to SRU : trusty [16:17] Launchpad bug 1640275 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "move nvme driver to linux-image" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640275 [16:17] Launchpad bug 1640382 in qemu (Ubuntu Trusty) "Segfault event notifier because of race condition" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640382 [16:17] LP: #1640676 - libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances [16:17] - Series to SRU : trusty [16:17] Launchpad bug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640676 [16:17] these are the current SRU we have ongoing [16:17] anything from the server team we should be aware of ? [16:17] thanks caribou. i'll give a bit for folks to digest and/or ask questions [16:18] caribou: does that mean you or the STS Team in general are looking into fixing 1640676? [16:18] cpaelzer: I would say yes, but let me confirm [16:19] nacc, rbasak, cpaelzer: any SRUs in process that STS should be aware of? [16:20] i will have one for bind9 i think [16:20] bug 1633220 in proposed waiting for the reporter to check [16:20] bug 1633220 in dovecot (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Dovecot panics when sieve filter outputs much data" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1633220 [16:20] LP: #1536181 [16:20] Launchpad bug 1536181 in bind9 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "bind9-resolvconf service doesn't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1536181 [16:20] I just imported it last night to use the drive-by process [16:20] bug 1640805 waiting for spnsoring into Trusty [16:20] bug 1640805 in sssd (Ubuntu) "SSSD authentication fails after upgrade to 1.11.8-0ubuntu0.2" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640805 [16:21] cpaelzer: I'll come back to you on LP: #1640676 [16:21] Launchpad bug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640676 [16:21] I need to get back to this one, fixed in debian, so will see if it can be SRU'd: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/1595096 [16:21] Launchpad bug 1595096 in postfix (Ubuntu Xenial) "cannot create multi postfix instance by postmulti command" [Undecided,New] [16:21] caribou: I might be EOD in a bit but happy to read whatever you find on it tomorrow morning in my log then - thank you [16:21] anyone else? [16:22] cpaelzer: sure, no worry [16:22] moving along, thanks folks [16:23] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) [16:23] Continued work on cloud-init integration, have actual tests running on our jenkins. Will add more tests for more modules this week. Otherwise a bit of work with cpaelzer on qemu/libvirt live migration and "hardening" of jenkins jobs some are a little fragile [16:23] and work on the s390x node [16:23] #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ [16:23] ah yes cpaelzer thank you! [16:24] although tests don't seem happy there, so we will talk thursday [16:24] questions for powersj? [16:24] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee) [16:25] moving on [16:25] #topic Upcoming Call For Papers === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Upcoming Call For Papers [16:25] #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/ [16:26] nothing [16:26] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:27] #link http://summit.ubuntu.com/ [16:27] ^^ going on now [16:27] of possible interest to folks is the git-based workflow session by nacc & rbasak [16:28] #link http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22710/git-based-merge-workflow/ [16:28] that is in 90mins? [16:28] yeah [16:28] sweet [16:28] Yes, 1800 UTC [16:29] date -d "18:00 UTC" [16:29] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:29] cloud-init SRU status? === JanC_ is now known as JanC [16:29] smoser, ^^ [16:30] jgrimm, i pinged slangasek .. hoping to talk to him today [16:30] pinged meaning its ready to go? or needing to discuss yet? [16:30] rharper and i think that it shoudl be fine, but wanted to see what issues slangasek saw, or what he wnated me to do. [16:31] it's ready [16:31] ok good, that one's hot. [16:31] other open discussion? [16:31] i'm fairly sure we do not regress anything. the only thing would be a system with cloud-init and systemd-networkd which probably didnt work that well already. [16:32] powersj: I propose we look at figuring out some systemcd unit ordering tests; smoser and I have a few scenarios that we can describe [16:32] smoser, but that sounds like a follow-up bug then? [16:32] jgrimm: the bug is already open [16:32] ok, good. [16:32] there is an upstream issue with networkd and dbus [16:32] ack, i know that one [16:32] we might see if pitti wants to branch that separate issue off from cloud-init related [16:32] rharper: will you send me bug # so I can get context [16:33] it turns out that networkd wasn't fully baked w.r.t running super early (ie before dbus.service ) [16:33] powersj: yes, on sec [16:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1636912 [16:33] Launchpad bug 1636912 in systemd (Ubuntu Xenial) "systemd-networkd runs too late for cloud-init.service (net)" [High,Triaged] [16:33] http://pad.ubuntu.com/tMdgYGEvgL <-- has more ifno [16:33] thank you [16:33] there's quite a bit in there [16:33] but the last update from pitti I think captures what remains [16:34] thanks folks [16:34] any other discussion [16:35] #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date, time and chair [16:36] same time/channel. as beisner has a standing conflict will move on to next [16:36] will be thedac or possibly cpaelzer [16:37] as its possible thedac has the same conflict as beisner [16:37] thanks jgrimm [16:37] np sir [16:37] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:37] Meeting ended Tue Nov 15 16:37:17 2016 UTC. [16:37] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-11-15-16.02.moin.txt [16:37] jgrimm: yes, I need to remove myself from that list, sorry. [16:37] jgrimm: thanks! [16:37] no worries at all!! === noy_ is now known as noy