| infinity | pitti: Y'know, having a /usr/bin/\ that is, indeed, just something that returns the first argument might solve all sorts of issues. :) | 00:10 |
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| sarnold | that's an evil idea | 00:10 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: Is this a seed thing or a bug on your end? bug 1641783 | 01:35 |
| ubot5` | bug 1641783 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "man or command not found commands not installed by alternate installer." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1641783 | 01:35 |
| tsimonq2 | ("your" meaning archive admins) | 01:35 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: man-db is in standard, if your alternate setup isn't enabling standard by default that's a bug somewhere. Whose bug, I'm not sure without looking. | 01:45 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: I think maybe I'll poke around and take a look at the recent commits to d-i. | 01:46 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: But thanks. | 01:46 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: d-i has almost nothing to do with it. | 01:47 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh? | 01:47 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: The default task selection should come from a preseed on the media. | 01:47 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: livecd-rootfs? | 01:47 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: Err, depending on what "the alternate installer" means here. The Lubuntu alternate ISO, or a minimal d-i netboot? | 01:48 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: Lubuntu Alternate. | 01:48 |
| infinity | Kay. debian-cd, then, is what's likely to contain the magic. | 01:48 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah ok. | 01:49 |
| infinity | data/zesty/preseed/lubuntu/lubuntu.seed should probably explicitly select minimal and standard along with lubuntu-desktop, just as the live images do. | 01:50 |
| infinity | Though this has been "broken" literally forever, curious that no one cared until today. | 01:50 |
| tsimonq2 | O__O | 01:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Where are you seeing this? This thing? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/debian-cd/trunk/files | 01:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah nevermind, apologies. | 01:51 |
| infinity | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu | 01:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes, that. :) | 01:51 |
| infinity | If this is actually a regression, something subtle changed elsewhere, and I'd like to know about it. | 01:52 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: Either nobody noticed until today (which, Lubuntu QA needs some *serious* redesign if that's the case) or it wasn't an issue until today. | 01:52 |
| tsimonq2 | (or a few days ago, to be accurate) | 01:53 |
| infinity | But I suspect your alternate has installed this way since the flavour existed. | 01:53 |
| tsimonq2 | O__O | 01:53 |
| infinity | The only other obvious candidate for blame would be tasksel, which hasn't changed since shortly before xenial release. | 01:54 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: So this line should read: "taskseltasksel/firstmultiselect lubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard" http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/view/head:/data/zesty/preseed/lubuntu/lubuntu.seed#L6 ? | 01:54 |
| infinity | minimal and standard don't have the ubuntu- prefix. | 01:55 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh, ok. | 01:55 |
| tsimonq2 | But otherwise that's where they're put? | 01:55 |
| infinity | I'd have to remind myself how tasksel preseeds work, but in theory that would do it. | 01:55 |
| tsimonq2 | Ok, PR incoming. | 01:56 |
| infinity | (for consistency with how we write it in livecd-rootfs, it'd probably be "minimal standard $foo-desktop" to go from small to large. | 01:56 |
| infinity | But that's nitpicking. | 01:56 |
| tsimonq2 | Well that's fair enough. Nitpicking exists for a reason. ;) | 01:57 |
| infinity | Hrm. Could you test with xenial (and if that's broken, also trusty) first, though? | 01:59 |
| infinity | Cause I feel like tasksel *should* be doing standard by default. | 01:59 |
| tsimonq2 | How would I go about testing? | 01:59 |
| infinity | Just do a quick install of each, then "apt-get install standard^" and see if anything new is pulled in. | 02:00 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: I have a date with "not being at work" for the evening, but keep me informed. | 02:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Using the default alternate installer, or will The Best Method Ever work? :P https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apds04.html | 02:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Ok, infinity . | 02:01 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: How would you test the installed by not using the installer? :P | 02:02 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: I guess I'm asking if it matters how I run tasksel. | 02:02 |
| tsimonq2 | Good point. lol | 02:02 |
| infinity | s/installed/installer/ | 02:02 |
| tsimonq2 | Ok will do. | 02:02 |
| infinity | For people who install with debootstrap, they can run "apt-get install minimal^ standard^ foo-desktop^" all by themselves, but that's a thing ISOs are supposed to do for them. ;) | 02:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Yup. :D | 02:04 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: I really like that method. It lets me see what I'm installing *exactly* and lets me customize it before rebooting. Reminds me of installing Arch. :P | 02:05 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: It fails entirely to be even remotely user-friendly, but yes, I have a few machines in the wild that are debootstrap-installed. Some that are remote machines that pivoted from preinstalled CentOS, two that we didn't have bootable installers for when they were installed, etc. | 02:06 |
| infinity | It's not something I'd recommend to friends and family. | 02:06 |
| infinity | Not if I wanted to remain friends and continue being in the will. | 02:07 |
| tsimonq2 | Me neither. No way. | 02:07 |
| tsimonq2 | But for all the machines that are mine I *always* debootstrap. | 02:08 |
| tsimonq2 | I even have a Chromebook and Crouton uses debootstrap. :D | 02:09 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: It started as a practical dogfooding thing (I work for Canonical, I should see what users soo, so I can fix it when it sucks), but the more we've tried to improve things, the more I've found my nerdy compulsion to be an anal-retentive sysadmin of my own machines has gone way down. | 02:09 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: If you ignore my /home (obviously), my laptop is so amazingly stock Ubuntu that me of a decade ago would probably have some choice insults for current me. | 02:10 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: Well I don't work for Canonical (I hope one day though :P) and this machine is a Frankenstein monster. I'm running LXQt and I have a half installed KDE Plasma somewhere with a half installed Lubuntu somewhere else. Maybe even some Unity 8 left? I don't know. | 02:11 |
| infinity | I'd like to think that past me would be proud of how far we've come with out-of-the-box usability, but really, that guy built his own kernels on the regular, he clearly had unresolved issues. | 02:12 |
| * infinity -> non-IRC life. | 02:13 | |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah, I like Ubuntu because I can just install it THEN make it a Frankenstein. I could never install Arch successfully, and Gentoo takes too long. :P | 02:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Every time I build my own kernel, sbuild breaks. Maybe I should do it again and file a bug. :P | 02:14 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ infinity | 02:14 |
| tsimonq2 | But yeah, sbuild breaking does NOT make me a happy camper... :/ | 02:14 |
| infinity | tsimonq2: sbuild breaking is probably a sign that your custom kernel is missing the filesystem driver for your overlay of choice (overlay, which is upstream or aufs, which isn't). | 02:15 |
| infinity | And really gone. | 02:15 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah I think that's the issue. I don't know, when I go through the "I want to do kernel hacking" phase again, I'll file a bug. :P | 02:15 |
| tsimonq2 | It sounds awfully familiar. | 02:16 |
| tsimonq2 | (or fix my freaking setup, whatever one fixes it first :P) | 02:17 |
| tsimonq2 | UH, ADAM. | 03:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Wait... | 03:32 |
| * tsimonq2 does a dist-upgrade first | 03:32 | |
| tsimonq2 | I was gonna say... | 03:32 |
| tsimonq2 | I tried installing those tasks and it proposed like 200 packages. | 03:32 |
| tsimonq2 | infinity: Reproducable with Xenial: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1479182570.png | 04:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Grabbing Lubuntu Trusty 14.04.1 Alternate now. | 04:05 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | thanks pitti for fixing the testsuite | 08:29 |
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| tsimonq2 | infinity: So it seems Trusty is not affected. | 11:45 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | if an archive-admin is around, and wants to help me for a few demote/remove I think we are mostly ready for ghc transition | 13:11 |
| tjaalton | infinity: so, what to call X backport stack from yak? lts-y to follow the old style, or something else? I know there's going to be just one kernel, but is that handled on the metapackage level so that there's still going to be lts-y/z/å/ä kernels? | 13:14 |
| tjaalton | and the rolling bit provided by a metapackage | 13:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg | please take care of virtualbox too in case ^^ | 13:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg | as done with trusty | 13:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg | or at least wait for my upload :p | 13:16 |
| tjaalton | nothing has been done so far | 13:16 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: Debian removed some haskell packages too; I didn't remove those yet as I didn't have an overview of what could go | 13:33 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: do you have a list? | 13:34 |
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| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: I removed haskell-applicative-quoters, but three others removed by debian have rdepends: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480403/ | 13:47 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, can demoting them work? e.g. haskell-fail (rc buggy in debian) | 13:53 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: yes, if you find a closed set of sources, we can demote | 13:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, your workflow seems to have an issue | 14:07 |
| LocutusOfBorg | e.g. haskell-snap-core depends on haskell-blaze-builder-enumerator, but only in zesty | 14:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | not in zesty-proposed | 14:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so, I don't think this as example is a blocker | 14:08 |
| pitti | that's just process-removal's output; but still, we would at least temporarily need to break zesty with these removals | 14:09 |
| pitti | or remove -snap along (the -proposed version can then promote back to zesty once fixed) | 14:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | yes, but they aren't a blocker, right? | 14:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I mean, the situation will auto heal | 14:09 |
| pitti | no, fine for me, but we need to chase down the complete set | 14:09 |
| pitti | and then demote it as a whole | 14:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ok, I already have it, just a few sec that I compare it with your :) | 14:09 |
| pitti | mine is nowhere near complete, it's just Debian removals since Nov 1st | 14:10 |
| pitti | but that also just covers removals from unstable, not from testing | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | pitti: it's probably just temporarily breaking build-deps in zesty, which should be OK as long as there's a thing in zesty-proposed due to migrate | 14:10 |
| pitti | cjwatson: not sure if we have existing best practices, but it would feel better to completely demote the set into -proposed rather than keeping half of it broken in release? | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | aaaaaaaaaaaa | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | I think you're tilting at windmills there :) | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | and it will probably end up being very complicated | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | for Haskell transitions I've always just checked that the build-deps go away in -proposed and then been happy to break devel for that, since builds all happen in -proposed anyway | 14:13 |
| pitti | ok | 14:13 |
| pitti | I see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#haskell-heist as a blocker (FTBFS on two arches) | 14:13 |
| pitti | haskell-snap* seems okay | 14:14 |
| LocutusOfBorg | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480533/ | 14:14 |
| pitti | $ reverse-depends src:haskell-heist | 14:14 |
| pitti | Reverse-Recommends | 14:14 |
| pitti | ================== | 14:14 |
| pitti | * libghc-snap-doc (for libghc-heist-doc) | 14:14 |
| pitti | I'm fine with demoting that as well, not much breakage there | 14:15 |
| pitti | ok, then let's do this -- /me grabs the axe | 14:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, wait | 14:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg | there still is a blocker: haskell-xmlhtml haskell-heist, haskell-snap | 14:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg | they are failing due to xmlhtml and gcc bug in arm64 and s390x | 14:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg | not sure how I can debug it, what is the suggestion here? | 14:16 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: right, that's what I meant with the above -- these three have no rdepends, so I'm fine with leaving them in -proposed | 14:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | oh ok | 14:17 |
| pitti | so that the ghc8 transition can land without this blocking it | 14:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so I can fix them later, fine | 14:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | indeed | 14:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | and I can have a better picture | 14:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg | probably I can debug arm64 with qemu | 14:17 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: ok, your list is done | 14:29 |
| LocutusOfBorg | fingers crossed, thanks :) | 14:34 |
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| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, did you forget to demote agda-stdlib? | 14:51 |
| LocutusOfBorg | or is it useless? (wrt agda ppc64el) | 14:52 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: ah, that wasn't on your list | 14:52 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: there's no rebuild of that in -proposed either | 14:52 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I don't know, based on the transition tracker, it is uninstallable on ppc64el, due to agda | 14:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | is it a blocker? | 14:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it is an arch:all package | 14:53 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: possibly, yes | 14:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so demoting can be done? | 14:54 |
| * LocutusOfBorg wonders about the word "demoting" :/ | 14:54 | |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: moved to -proposed ("demoted") and blocked in britney | 14:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks, and sorry for not mentioning it, I was not sure about that situation | 14:56 |
| * LocutusOfBorg waits for next britney run | 14:56 | |
| pitti | no problem | 14:56 |
| pitti | we all play this by ear :) | 14:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | haskell can be challenging | 14:57 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcin (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.8.4+dfsg1-1ubuntu1 => 2.8.4+dfsg1-1ubuntu1.1] (input-methods) | 14:57 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcin (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.8.4+dfsg1-9build1~1 => 2.8.4+dfsg1-9build1~1ubuntu1] (input-methods) | 14:58 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qemu (trusty-proposed/main) [2.0.0+dfsg-2ubuntu1.30 => 2.0.0+dfsg-2ubuntu1.31] (ubuntu-server, virt) | 14:59 | |
| sforshee | is there anyone around who can look at my linux-firmware SRU for xenial? | 15:01 |
| caribou | Q: When a package is SRUed to many releases and awaiting verification, shouldn't there be a "verification-needed-{release}' present in the bug ? | 15:03 |
| pitti | caribou: no, we only do that for -done; as long as it's still unverified in any release, we keep v-needed | 15:03 |
| caribou | that was the follow up question: if it has been verified for only one release, we should only add 'verification-done-{release}' then | 15:04 |
| caribou | pitti: ^^ | 15:04 |
| pitti | correct | 15:05 |
| caribou | pitti: thanks! | 15:05 |
| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, the mail flooding has started, cheers! | 15:26 |
| pitti | excellent! /me unblocks adga-stdlib then | 15:26 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks! | 15:27 |
| LocutusOfBorg | BTW, if anybody wants to see xapian-core migrate... | 15:27 |
| LocutusOfBorg | just grab src:notmuch from here https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+delete-packages | 15:28 |
| LocutusOfBorg | with the new emacs25 in main, I added it as dependency | 15:28 |
| LocutusOfBorg | maybe ginggs ^^ :) https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/7131474/+listing-archive-extra | 15:29 |
| ginggs | LocutusOfBorg: ok | 15:31 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks! | 15:31 |
| doko | LocutusOfBorg: notmuch still has a dependency on emacs25 ... | 15:38 |
| ginggs | doko: do you mean emacs24? | 15:40 |
| doko | ginggs: of course, don't trust what I write, always trust what I mean ;) | 15:41 |
| ginggs | doko: ah you mean in the depends of notmuch-emacs? | 15:43 |
| ginggs | doko: because LocutusOfBorg did add emacs25-nox | emacs25 | to the build-deps | 15:44 |
| doko | yes | 15:46 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: muse (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.1.2-1build1 => 2.1.2-1ubuntu0.16.04.1] (no packageset) | 15:48 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: muse (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.1.2-2 => 2.1.2-2ubuntu0.16.10.1] (no packageset) | 15:48 | |
| ginggs | doko, LocutusOfBorg: ok, i'll fix | 15:48 |
| LocutusOfBorg | interesting, the ghc transition page looks scary http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/log/?h=daisy | 16:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | oops | 16:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html | 16:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | maybe I should wait some more time? | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | That occasionally happens mid-transition-to-release; just wait for the next run | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | It's a big batch of packages and the copy isn't atomic | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | So it can easily get split into multiple publisher runs | 16:11 |
| LocutusOfBorg | oh, I didn't knew that | 16:20 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bind9 (xenial-proposed/main) [1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.2 => 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-8ubuntu1.3] (core) | 16:33 | |
| LocutusOfBorg | somebody please hint libaws to make gnutls28 migrate? | 16:41 |
| LocutusOfBorg | also asis should migrate with that ^^ | 16:42 |
| Laney | No, they are in the process of being rebuilt | 16:45 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ok | 16:48 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#agda-stdlib → I think that does need a rebuild, and you rebuilt it in yakkety too | 16:50 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: I already hinted gnutls28 earlier, it's in | 16:51 |
| pitti | gnat breakage happened a while ago already, it was unrelated | 16:51 |
| Laney | nevertheless, I am fixing it | 16:51 |
| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, with emacs and dh-elpa almost fixed, I'll rebuild agda and then agda-stdlib | 16:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | or just rebuild it now | 16:54 |
| * pitti hugs LocutusOfBorg, nice work! | 16:54 | |
| LocutusOfBorg | :) | 16:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | btw that haskell-xmlfoo broken in arm64 and s390x eat something like 30GB of ram in my laptop | 16:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I killed it | 16:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | seems a similar issue to the haskell-lambdabot-haskell-plugins all your ram belongs to me | 16:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | oh last thing: cjwatson this might be a nice timing to unblock haskell auto-import :) | 17:01 |
| cjwatson | LocutusOfBorg: done | 17:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ta | 17:02 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: criu (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.6-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.6-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.2] (no packageset) | 17:05 | |
| stgraber | ^ will fix the current build failure of criu in xenial-proposed (said it needed dh10, but really doesn't...) | 17:09 |
| LocutusOfBorg | feature request: in a ppa, map unstable with distro-info --devel | 17:12 |
| LocutusOfBorg | is it possible? | 17:12 |
| cjwatson | I don't think we want to do that, but you can use "devel" in the changelog when uploading to a PPA. | 17:13 |
| LocutusOfBorg | wow, hidden feature :) thanks! | 17:13 |
| infinity | tjaalton: No, there won't be multiple kernels with rolling metas, just one hwe stack, period. | 17:15 |
| infinity | tjaalton: One of the big driving forces here was not having junk in main that we later tell people "just kidding, not supporting that". | 17:15 |
| infinity | tjaalton: So, linux-hwe will just roll forward, and I'd expect xorg-hwe to do the same. | 17:16 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-golang-x-oauth2 [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161103.0.36bc617-3] (no packageset) | 17:19 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: django-simple-redis-admin [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.4.0-1] (no packageset) | 17:20 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:20 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-4] (no packageset) | 17:21 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:21 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:21 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-4] (no packageset) | 17:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-4] (no packageset) | 17:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: unirest-java [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.4.8-1] (no packageset) | 17:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: peco [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] (no packageset) | 17:26 | |
| doko | and mono transitioned ... | 17:29 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnuplot [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [5.0.5+dfsg1-4] (no packageset) | 17:32 | |
| LocutusOfBorg | doko, can you please help xapian-core migrate? | 17:33 |
| doko | LocutusOfBorg: not today. afk now | 17:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Laney, ^^ you did a lot of rebuilds for xapian | 17:34 |
| LocutusOfBorg | but something is missing | 17:34 |
| doko | rying easy from autohinter: akonadi-search/4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2 aptitude/0.8.3-1ubuntu4 baloo/4:4.14.3-0ubuntu6 khelpcenter/4:16.04.3-0ubuntu2 libqapt/3.0.2-0ubuntu4 libsearch-xapian-perl/1.2.24.0-1 maildir-utils/0.9.16-1build1 pinot/1.05-1.2 recoll/1.22.3-1build1 ubuntu-kylin-software-center/1.3.11 unity-lens-applications/7.1.0+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu2 xapian-bindings/1.4.0-7 xapian-core/1.4.1-1 xapian-omega/1.4.1-1 zeitgeist/0.9.16-0ubuntu6 | 17:35 |
| doko | start: 8925+0: a-1739:a-1191:a-1194:i-1200:p-1196:p-1196:s-1209 | 17:35 |
| doko | orig: 8925+0: a-1739:a-1191:a-1194:i-1200:p-1196:p-1196:s-1209 | 17:35 |
| doko | easy: 9007+0: a-1758:a-1201:a-1205:i-1211:p-1207:p-1206:s-1219 | 17:35 |
| doko | * amd64: alot, aptoncd, goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, lubuntu-desktop, mutt, muttprofile, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, notmuch-emacs, notmuch-mutt, notmuch-vim, packagesearch, python-notmuch, python3-notmuch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:35 |
| doko | * arm64: goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, mutt, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, packagesearch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:35 |
| doko | * armhf: goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, lubuntu-desktop, mutt, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, packagesearch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:35 |
| doko | * i386: goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, lubuntu-desktop, mutt, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, packagesearch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:35 |
| doko | * powerpc: goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, lubuntu-desktop, mutt, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, packagesearch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:35 |
| doko | * ppc64el: goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, mutt, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, packagesearch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:36 |
| doko | * s390x: goplay, libnotmuch-dev, libnotmuch4, mutt, notmuch, notmuch-addrlookup, notmuch-dbg, packagesearch, ruby-notmuch, synaptic | 17:36 |
| doko | FAILED | 17:36 |
| LocutusOfBorg | nope | 17:36 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * amd64: aptoncd, goplay, lubuntu-desktop, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * arm64: goplay, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * armhf: goplay, lubuntu-desktop, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * i386: goplay, lubuntu-desktop, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * powerpc: goplay, lubuntu-desktop, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * ppc64el: goplay, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | * s390x: goplay, packagesearch, synaptic | 17:37 |
| LocutusOfBorg | the new run removed notmuch | 17:37 |
| Laney | what do you need help with? | 17:38 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I'm doing goplay | 17:39 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Laney, probably everything is in universe | 17:41 |
| LocutusOfBorg | not sure why lubuntu-desktop and aptoncd are there | 17:42 |
| Laney | They probably depend on other things that are in the list | 17:42 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ok I did goplay aptoncd packagesearch, synaptic | 17:43 |
| LocutusOfBorg | lets see | 17:43 |
| tjaalton | infinity: alright, thanks! I'll get on with it then :) | 18:05 |
| cyphermox | could someone please approve the grub2 2.02~beta3-3ubuntu1 binaries for amd64 and arm64? | 18:34 |
| slangasek | checking | 18:36 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.02~beta3-3ubuntu1] | 18:39 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [2.02~beta3-3ubuntu1] | 18:39 | |
| rtg | cyphermox, can you accept linux 4.9.0-1.2 in the Zesty unapproved queue ? | 19:10 |
| cyphermox | rtg: sorry, EPERM. | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: ^? | 19:11 |
| slangasek | cyphermox, rtg: accepted | 19:15 |
| rtg | slangasek, thanks | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | ta | 19:15 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (xenial-proposed/main) [0.7.8-1-g3705bb5-0ubuntu1~16.04.3 => 0.7.8-45-g584b843-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server) | 20:31 | |
| smoser | slangasek, ^ | 20:41 |
| smoser | please let me know what i need to do to make that acceptable | 20:41 |
| slangasek | smoser: reviewing | 20:49 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted django-simple-redis-admin [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.0-1] | 21:35 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-golang-x-oauth2 [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161103.0.36bc617-3] | 21:35 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnuplot [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [5.0.5+dfsg1-4] | 21:35 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted unirest-java [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1.4.8-1] | 21:35 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted peco [i386] (zesty-proposed) [0.0~git20161005.0.d4f7705-1] | 21:36 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (xenial-proposed/main) [0.7.8-1-g3705bb5-0ubuntu1~16.04.3 => 0.7.8-47-gb6561a1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server) | 22:32 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-5] (no packageset) | 23:21 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-5] (no packageset) | 23:21 | |
| bdmurray | slangasek: can you 'remove-package -y -m "moved to -updates" -s xenial-proposed -e 1.2.15 apt' so I can review the next one? | 23:21 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-5] (no packageset) | 23:23 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libelfin [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.2-5] (no packageset) | 23:23 | |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: done | 23:25 |
| nacc | cjwatson: sorry you weren't able to attend the UOS session -- a great discussion and fyi, I think we have a way forward to become dgit compatible and for dgit to eventually be aware of our imports (which have a more complete history than what dgit asserts currently) | 23:26 |
| nacc | cjwatson: mostly just an fyi for you for now :) | 23:26 |
| cjwatson | nacc: useful, thanks! the other thing I was thinking of while cycling through town tonight was that maybe we should acknowledge that there may not be a single source of truth for imports for a while, and that it might be worth having a way for a package-namespace repository to say "allow anyone who can upload this package to push to this repository" separate from making it the ... | 23:27 |
| cjwatson | ... /ubuntu/+source/foo default | 23:27 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: thanks | 23:28 |
| nacc | cjwatson: yeah, that's something i was thinking about as well, as right now, the usd-import-team becomes a bottleneck to write to the repositor(ies) | 23:28 |
| cjwatson | nacc: originally I was thinking that we'd do that by letting usd-import-team set the default, but that only works if we can really say it's definitely the preferred thing for everyone to use | 23:28 |
| nacc | cjwatson: right | 23:28 |
| cjwatson | and I feel like that could both be some way off, and maybe a distraction | 23:28 |
| cjwatson | anyway, I should sleep, but glad to hear it was useful | 23:29 |
| nacc | and having that flexibility would be great anyways, I think | 23:29 |
| nacc | cjwatson: have a good night! | 23:29 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.7.8-45-g584b843-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] | 23:29 | |
| slangasek | bdmurray: technically shouldn't be required before reviewing the new one though, should it? | 23:29 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: reviewing or accepting? | 23:30 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.7.8-47-gb6561a1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] | 23:31 | |
| slangasek | bdmurray: either? if it's just replacing the existing one that's already copied to -updates, should be fine I think? | 23:32 |
| bdmurray | Hmm, I thought I'd heard it wasn't. | 23:33 |
| jgrimm | slangasek, pitti: thanks for the help on cloud-init | 23:51 |
| slangasek | jgrimm: no problem! | 23:58 |
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