[07:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[07:31] <knightwise> mornign
[07:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> knightwise, morning
[07:42] <knightwise> @hey SebthreeBQM10HD
[07:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[07:43] <knightwise> hows everyone doin today
[07:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> knightwise, UOS today and tommorow
[08:13] <knightwise> UOS ?
[08:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> thought you may of not known what i meant
[08:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ubuntu online summit
[08:20] <knightwise> Ah cool
[09:28] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:28] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Philanthropy Day! 😃
[09:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhhOmFwp7tc
[09:38] <JamesTait> davmor2, nice song that one.
[09:40] <davmor2> JamesTait: well initially I was thinking of Bob cause it's getting close to that time of year. But then remember the lyric giving it all away, for some reason I thought it was Rod Stewart but then it was the year I was born so I have a small excuse for not remembering it perfectly ;)
[10:03] <bittin> popey or anyone else do you know what the irc channel for this years Online Summit ?
[10:16] <davmor2> bittin: goto summit.ubuntu.com should be listed there
[10:17] <popey> bittin: #ubuntu-uos-<trackname> and #ubuntu-uos-plenary
[10:32] <bittin> popey: thank you :)
[10:34] <popey> np
[10:37] <foobarry> did we ever discover the identity of train ubuntu guy
[10:41] <Laney> canonical's guerilla marketing
[10:41] <foobarry> either that or mr robot
[11:17] <davmor2> He's a gchq operative
[11:17] <TwistedLucidity> I hope no one took photographs in that case
[11:18] <TwistedLucidity> They get rather touchy about that sort of thing
[11:56] <foobarry> awoke in the night thinking i could hear a mouse in the room
[11:56] <foobarry> :S
[11:57] <foobarry> awoke in the early morning to find my wife with a torch doing the same thing
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> singing or scritching?
[12:01] <foobarry> chewing
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> deploy traps and wait
[12:04] <foobarry> mice are wise to these things
[12:06] <zmoylan-pi> i find it's about the position and orientation of the trap.  they can pick bait off traps but if you place it so they have to be on trap when doing it they get caught
[12:06] <zmoylan-pi> of course now i'm in a place with a few cats wandering around so no mice
[12:59] <diddledan> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/14/nhs-it-blunder-sees-system-clogged-after-email-sent-to-12-millio/
[13:02] <zmoylan-pi> all the news covered that yesterday and still seems to be down today
[13:36] <foobarry> "
[13:36] <foobarry> The video you are trying to watch is using the HTTP Live Streaming protocol which is only supported in iOS devices"
[13:36] <foobarry> http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2016-11-09/armed-police-help-persecuted-christian-family-flee-their-bradford-home/
[13:36] <foobarry> does anyone else get that message?
[13:36] <foobarry> i'm on desktop firefox
[13:38] <foobarry> ah, i don't have flash. thanks for the helpful error ITV
[13:38] <zmoylan-pi> i've been seeing a few can't play this in firefox messages in last week or so
[13:38] <davmor2> foobarry: yeap same thing in chromium
[13:42] <popey> foobarry: ugh, that story is awful
[13:42] <foobarry> yeah
[13:43] <foobarry> response:"disappointed they had decided to leave bradford...trying to deal with it". police said credible threat to life. he'd already been severely beaten
[13:46] <foobarry> http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/nes-classic-edition-console-hacked-running-ubuntu-linux/
[13:46] <foobarry> helps to read the article from the bottom up.
[13:46] <foobarry> "The Ubuntu operating system is based on Linux as well."
[13:47] <zmoylan-pi> despite canonicals attempts to change it? :-P
[13:49] <popey> not the OS in the nes, but the OS some hacker put on it
[13:50] <zmoylan-pi> wouldn't you be better off with a pi-cade as at least those are probably in stock?
[13:51] <diddledan> can it be claimed ubuntu is based on linux when it runs on the Windows kernel now?
[13:51] <diddledan> :-p
[13:51] <zmoylan-pi> which runs on bsd...
[13:52] <diddledan> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22713/intro-and-keynote-by-gustavo-niemeyer/
[13:52] <diddledan> it's UoS time
[13:53] <popey> there's a few posts doing the rounds about retropie if you can't get a nes
[13:53] <popey> seen two today already
[13:53] <foobarry> or wait a few weeks surely
[13:53] <popey> it's a bit flawed
[13:53] <foobarry> £50 is a sweet price
[13:53] <popey> very short cables
[13:53] <foobarry> oh, :( i haven't read reviews
[13:54] <popey> and only wired. I have a bluetooth 8bitdo SNES30 on my retropie under the telly
[13:54] <foobarry> why would you have such short cables
[13:54] <popey> if you had it on your desk
[13:56] <foobarry> but....hdmi is tlly
[13:56] <foobarry> telly
[13:57] <popey> or recreate your youth by sitting cross legged, far too close to the telly
[13:57] <foobarry> trying to get tapes to load
[13:58] <foobarry> what was wrose were the tapes with multiple games on
[14:01] <popey> Cassette 50
[14:02] <popey> super happy with my retropie under the telly with the 8bitdo connector
[14:02] <popey> *controller
[14:02] <popey> works a treat
[14:06] <foobarry> what's an 8bitdo connector?
[14:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[14:31] <popey> foobarry: controller
[14:35] <foobarry> need to think of ideas for chrimbo pressies
[14:40] <davmor2> foobarry: scarfs unifit and look nice you can't go wrong ;)
[14:41] <diddledan> davmor2: punctuation might help readability :-)
[14:43] <davmor2> diddledan: meh punctuation is overrated
[14:43]  * diddledan wonders what "meh punctuation" is :-p
[14:44] <davmor2> foobarry: scarfs, unifit and look nice, you can't go wrong :P
[14:44] <diddledan> try: scarfs: they're unifit and look nice. you can't go wrong.
[14:44] <diddledan> :-p
[14:45] <davmor2> assertion error on try scarfs not found
[14:45]  * diddledan proudly wears the "pedantic of the day" badge.
[14:46] <diddledan> maybe that should be "git of the day"?
[14:46] <diddledan> <-- git
[14:46] <diddledan> :-p
[15:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD>  
[15:17] <daftykins> ah the blank messages are back
[15:30] <diddledan>  
[15:31] <daftykins> diddledan: how goes it, sir?
[15:31] <diddledan> good good
[15:31] <diddledan> although a bit blank
[15:31] <diddledan>  
[15:31] <diddledan> ^^^ like that
[15:31] <daftykins> that's the spirit
[15:32] <diddledan> the spirit? like the holy goat?
[15:32] <diddledan> or the oily one? "the father, the son, and the oily goat"
[15:33] <daftykins> seen the charity stream doing 24hr 'Desert Bus' play? www.twitch.tv/desertbus
[15:33] <diddledan> o_O
[15:35] <diddledan> what is desert bus?
[15:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh diddledan your in the convergence team ?
[15:35] <popey> TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM
[15:36] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMW8VYb_GE
[15:36] <daftykins> it's an old game that was on some penn and teller disc years ago, the ideas you drive a bus on this single road from Tucson, AZ to Vegas iirc - but the bus has a slight veer so you have to keep correcting it
[15:36]  * SebthreeBQM10HD smacks popey around with the rest of the community team ;d
[15:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> diddledan  I thought you were just  well some guy who hanged out here for example, but I guess that's not quite the case then ;d
[15:39] <popey> copying 64GB SDHC card from one card to another takes a while, it turns out
[15:39] <popey> 3 hours it seems
[15:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sounds about right I GUESS
[15:44] <daftykins> nasty
[15:46] <popey> crappy little usb sd card reader to blame I think
[15:46] <popey> piping the bits over wet string
[15:46] <daftykins> :>
[15:47] <daftykins> i've been truly spoilt, i was zeroing an SSD the other day that only did 75MB/sec and i thought cor, ghetto hardware
[15:48] <popey> blimey, was it old or busted?
[15:48] <popey> this is doing 7MB/s
[15:48] <daftykins> very old, the one in a sony laptop that came out in Vista time
[15:51] <daftykins> http://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-Vaio-VGN-TT21WN-B.18109.0.html
[15:51] <daftykins> great little machine at the time
[15:51] <daftykins> i gave all those away to my old College last night when the guy showed up \o/
[15:53] <popey> I think I only ever owned one Sony laptop. Ridiculously priced tiny netbook thing before netbooks were a thing
[15:53] <foobarry> that moment when you spend ages getting soemthing working and then you get the message Ignoring gpu device (device: 1, name: Tesla C2070, pci bus id: 0000:0d:00.0) with Cuda compute capability 2.0. The minimum required Cuda capability is 3.0
[15:53] <foobarry> and all your work was for nowt
[15:54] <popey> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-VAIO-C1VE-9-12-GB-Transmeta-Crusoe-TM5600-600-MHz-128-MB-/262706459031
[15:54] <popey> that thing, but not that model, the one before it
[15:54] <daftykins> yeah, depends on the model - they had machines which were ultraportables before netbooks came along
[15:55] <daftykins> mmm that's definitely one of the gimmicky toy ones
[15:55] <foobarry> i remember that transmeta vaio
[15:55] <foobarry> my CEO brought one back from china and expected various other gizmos to work on it
[15:56] <popey> found it http://imgur.com/a/I569P - photo of my sony laptop and bonus cat in a box
[15:56] <foobarry> the CPU was awful slow and the drivers page was in japanese
[15:56] <foobarry> i remove those windows stickers on the first day
[15:56] <daftykins> when i first started looking after that guys stuff he had this utterly shocking JVC thing: http://zdnet3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/11/28/dd83442a-76ae-11e4-b569-d4ae52e95e57/thumbnail/770x433/4231a9933de154f37a9b75c34c268e5d/jvc-mininote-i1.gif
[15:57] <diddledan> rubby nipple!
[15:58] <daftykins> down boy
[15:58] <foobarry> i never use my inverted nipple
[15:59] <diddledan> inverted?! :-o
[15:59] <foobarry> yeah a dell rubbery indented one
[16:00] <foobarry> recent laptop
[16:00] <popey> yeah, for some reason I kept those stickers longer than you'd expect
[16:00] <foobarry> keep them too long and the colour fades
[16:00] <popey> but it was back in 1999, before I'd really got into Loonix
[16:00] <foobarry> at a differnt rate to the colour underneath
[16:00] <foobarry> ah, 1999 my first foray into linux
[16:01] <daftykins> mmm i learnt that lesson once so remove them all every time now
[16:01] <foobarry> but then again i cut my teeth on solaris
[16:01] <foobarry> my wife took hers off and it removed the paint from the thinkpad 600E
[16:01] <popey> actually i think i had two computers, this photo has two on the desk http://imgur.com/a/Uu2Fn
[16:01] <popey> so I think one was windows and the other linux
[16:01] <popey> both with the cases off :)
[16:02] <foobarry> computers looked ugly back then
[16:02] <popey> The _only_ thing that has survived since then is the keyboard
[16:02] <foobarry> hey i had that monitor
[16:02] <popey> and possibly the stapler
[16:02] <foobarry> and the stapler?
[16:02] <foobarry> yeah
[16:02] <foobarry> not the cat?
[16:02] <popey> sadly not
[16:02] <popey> he got run over
[16:02] <foobarry> nor the lovely curtains
[16:03] <popey> rented house, not my choice :)
[16:03] <foobarry> they are spare room curtains if ever i saw any
[16:03] <popey> hehe
[16:03] <popey> note the 3 button serial mouse on top of the crappy speaker on the right
[16:04] <diddledan> and the palm pda
[16:05]  * daftykins had those speakers
[16:05] <popey> hehe
[16:05] <daftykins> diddle dan computers
[16:05] <popey> had to lunge at them when something loud came on
[16:05] <daftykins> :D
[16:05] <popey> those cd racks in the legs of the unit were optimistic
[16:05] <diddledan> that monitor looks like my old sony one - I wonder if it was a rebranded?
[16:06] <popey> ilyama were a well known brand back then
[16:06] <popey> had a degaus button
[16:06] <popey> *clannnngggggg*
[16:06] <diddledan> yup, wibbly
[16:06] <foobarry> iiyama were the best monitors around
[16:06] <foobarry> zoinnnnng
[16:06] <popey> yeah, it lasted a while
[16:06] <popey> haha, radiation sticker on the side
[16:07] <popey> Ricoh SCSI dual speed CD burner too :)
[16:07] <daftykins> rawr
[16:07] <daftykins> 300KB/sec of speeeeeeed
[16:07] <diddledan> I wonder how much longer kids are gonna live today now they aren't staring into radiation-king monitors all day?
[16:07] <popey> http://imgur.com/a/wokg6
[16:07] <foobarry> they inhale wippits instead
[16:07] <popey> you can see the iomega zip drive and modem in that pic :)
[16:07] <daftykins> enough to be deaf from their mobile devices
[16:08] <popey> oh, that whickar bin survived too
[16:08] <popey> PC on the left is a PIII-400MHz and on the right was a (diddle) Dan P200
[16:08] <popey> happy days
[16:08] <davmor2> popey: what did you do with your zip drive?
[16:08] <daftykins> :D our dan from 1996 was P120
[16:08] <daftykins> *a
[16:08] <diddledan> \o/
[16:09] <popey> i had all my stuff cataloged
[16:09] <foobarry> lol
[16:09] <diddledan> we had a TINY running a P133
[16:09] <popey> one for mame & roms, another for spectrum games
[16:09] <diddledan> got it just after win95 landed
[16:09] <popey> i used to keep an archive of old mame and sparcade releases, source and all
[16:09] <popey> right from 0.01 days
[16:10] <daftykins> haha Tiny liked to glue in their PATA ribbons
[16:10] <popey> us robotics modem ftw
[16:10]  * daftykins had a LASAT Safire
[16:11] <diddledan> I remember running snotwall back in the 90s with a speedtouch "frog"
[16:12] <diddledan> adsl modem thingy
[16:12] <daftykins> yeah me too, guarded that mgmt.o firmware file well
[16:12] <diddledan> yup
[16:12] <daftykins> v2.0 broke it though, never worked on that for me
[16:13] <popey> blimey, speedtouch, not a word I've heard for a while
[16:13] <daftykins> i used Windows ICS for a bit but ugh needing one PC on to use another online, nasty
[16:13] <daftykins> our ISP puts out their child devices now, which rebranded to Technicolor
[16:14] <daftykins> kinda tempted to make it a WAP only since it has good wifi hardware, 802.11ac dual stream, but they never get firmware updates so i can only imagine how many holes they have
[16:15] <Seeker`> http://images.esellerpro.com/2131/I/701/4/DSLBB607QP.jpg modem \o/
[16:15] <diddledan> I had one of those, too
[16:15] <daftykins> ah that's the slightly newer one, that never worked with smoothwall for me
[16:15] <Seeker`> That must have been back with freeserve
[16:15] <diddledan> https://offog.org/notes/speedtouch-revival/speedtouch_size1600.jpg
[16:16] <daftykins> technically they're transceivers though ;)
[16:16] <daftykins> that's the ugly blighter!
[16:17] <diddledan> I wonder if mine still works
[16:17] <diddledan> daftykins: do you still have the mgmt.o? :-p
[16:18] <daftykins> looks like i held a minutes silence and murderd it
[16:18] <daftykins> +e
[16:22] <daftykins> christel: wb
[16:22] <christel> hiii :)
[16:23] <christel> thank yooou
[16:23] <daftykins> diddledan: wow googling it is not easy :P
[16:24] <diddledan> daftykins: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/firmware/index.html
[16:24] <diddledan> that's an extractor tho
[16:24] <daftykins> hah how handy
[16:26] <diddledan> aah they've got archives of newer and the original mgmt.o there too
[16:28] <daftykins> funky
[20:33] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/chronic/status/798599175440957440
[20:33] <diddledan> I laughed hard!
[20:34] <daftykins> \o/
[20:34] <daftykins> but now i want to know how it ends...
[20:34] <daftykins> i have a feeling it's just the validation label
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD>  
[20:58] <daftykins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T19o0uri3dg d'aww
[21:19] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/dr4goonis/status/798636099832807424