[00:01] <samuel__> thanks @oerhecks giving it a shot
[00:15] <BurtReynolds> Any decent browsers that are NOT chrome or firefox?
[00:16] <OerHeks> chromium, or opera ( if you can make it run, it fails onmy system)
[00:16] <BurtReynolds> Oh I didn't know opera had a linux fork I might mess with that
[00:18] <OerHeks> http://www.opera.com/computer/linux
[00:18] <zuiss1> there's konqueror and midori
[00:18] <zuiss1> qt/gtk
[00:21] <BurtReynolds> I really like midori
[00:21] <BurtReynolds> it just crashes too often
[00:21] <BurtReynolds> konqueror more like conquered
[00:23] <kostkon> BurtReynolds, Vivaldi. Both Opera and Vivaldi are Chromium based
[00:23] <BurtReynolds> I just have "issues" with google and firefox lol
[00:24] <BurtReynolds> moral compass ones
[00:28] <Amm0n> BurtReynolds, have a look at palemoon
[00:29] <Sburw> Hi. I'm trying to burn an audio CD with k3b. But it doesn't work and I get a 254 error. Anyone wanna tell me what that means and if there's a solution?
[00:29] <BurtReynolds> I will thanks!
[00:29] <Sburw> Brasero isn't any better
[00:30] <stan_man_can> I wrote a webserver and want to make sure it's always running. I need it to run on boot and restart if it dies.
[00:30] <stan_man_can> can you do that in systemd or journald or whatever? if so, know of any tutorials?
[00:31] <kk4ewt> systemd enable http
[00:31] <stan_man_can> kk4ewt, I wrote my own server in GO
[00:32] <kk4ewt> then put a cron job to check and restart the service is it stopped
[00:32] <kk4ewt> if
[00:32] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, create a servicefile read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[00:32] <kk4ewt> stan_man_can,  make a service file for it
[00:32] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, Let me take a look thanks.
[00:33] <stan_man_can> Another thing I need to do is pipe STDOUT and STDERR to log files
[00:33] <Amm0n> use |&
[00:36] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, and what about log file rotations and stuff? At my current traffic levels the logs will grow at about 1.5gb per week
[00:37] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, logrotate should take care of it
[00:37] <OerHeks> stan_man_can, find the cause of errors, as 1.5 gb is huge..
[00:38] <dude42> for posterity, after my questions yesterday, Ubuntu 16.04 does install and run on a 4GiB hdd
[00:38] <janat08> installed a webtorrent, how do i tell that i uninstalled it right since its not in ubuntu software
[00:39] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, it's not errors, i love the traffic
[00:39] <stan_man_can> log*
[00:40] <stan_man_can> Each log entry will roughly look like
[00:40] <kostkon> dude42, how much free space were you left with after installation?
[00:40] <dude42> 2.6G currently
[00:40] <janat08> how do i tell what im supposed to be purging if i don't know what its called
[00:41] <kostkon> dude42, ok
[00:41] <stan_man_can> OerHeks, 2016/11/15 22:11:25.995383	127.0.0.1	005A8F998AF3FF	SHENZHEN FENDA TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD
[00:42] <janat08> apt show doesn't work
[00:43] <janat08> Usage: apt [options] command
[00:43] <janat08> how about apt show command
[00:43] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, logrotate takes care of it automatically?
[00:43] <kostkon> janat08, apt-cache policy package_name
[00:44] <janat08> how do i pass one of the most used commands from help
[00:44] <janat08> apt-list or show won't work
[00:44] <janat08> don't know what the package name is
[00:45] <nacc> janat08: `apt-cache search` is how you search without software center
[00:45] <OerHeks> janat08, 'apt-mark showmanual ' could tell
[00:45] <janat08> how is it that apt-list wouldn't work
[00:46] <janat08> whats suppose to be the syntax for it
[00:47] <nacc> janat08: `apt list <pkgname>`; refer to `man apt` for instructions
[00:49] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, usually yes, check your config in /etc/logrotate.conf and what's going to be rotated is in /etc/logrotate.d/ rest is cron's job
[00:49] <janat08> how is it that unix can be labeled multi-user relatively to windows, yet linux requires you to be root to install stuff?
[00:51] <OerHeks> janat08, standard the 1st user has sudo priv, you can give all users sudo priv too.
[00:51] <nacc> janat08: your question seems to be confused, imo. Being multi-user does not mean you have multiple administrators.
[00:51] <janat08> but then you'd have to share the root pass?
[00:51] <nacc> janat08: no, sudo does not require the root password.
[00:51] <nacc> !sudo | janat08
[00:51] <OerHeks> and root is the admin account, you don; t want all users to install stuff
[00:51] <kk4ewt> no sudo can be per user
[00:52] <janat08> ure gona install everything for them
[00:52] <nacc> you can even restrict how the sudo is configured as to what a given user can sudo
[00:52] <kk4ewt> and some users can be able to do certain things while others cannot
[00:52] <janat08> alright
[00:52] <nacc> janat08: yes, that is what an administrator does, generally
[00:53] <Amm0n> janat08, to see which packages you've installed use "cat /var/log/dpkg.log" to get a list of all installed packages use dpkg -l
[00:59] <Buyi> HI
[01:02] <Buyi> 有人么？
[01:02] <Amm0n> !cn | Buyi
[01:19] <wahyu> hi
[01:31] <janat08> i installed a couple of PPAs and now i can't find them, and chrome asks for pass for keyring, and sometimes when waking up laptop restarts (although possibly just runs out of battery)
[01:32] <janat08> any1 concerned?
[01:32] <janat08> *chrome asks for pass for keyring sometimes while chrome account warns that something is wrong with my sign on
[01:43] <tomreyn> janat08: those are probably unrelated issues. i can try to help you with the PPAs.
[01:44] <tomreyn> janat08: run this, then show its output on a pastebin: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache policy; sudo apt-get -f install
[01:44] <tomreyn> !pastebin | janat08
[01:44] <shane_> #forum
[01:45] <tomreyn> shane_: ?
[01:45] <shane_> Sorry new here :)
[01:46] <shane_> just looking for the best chat room for ubuntu
[01:48] <stan_man_can> best #ubuntu room is probably #fedora, maybe #centos or #rhel
[01:49] <kk4ewt> stan_man_can, ???
[01:49] <stan_man_can> kk4ewt, /sarcasm
[01:50] <janat08> tomreyn: http://pastebin.com/GnxLkHcb
[01:51] <janat08> chrome actually adds its own ppa
[01:51] <crayon> kunwon1,
[01:51] <janat08> im suppose to have ppa for vlc, and atom too
[01:52] <tomreyn> janat08: so the second command you ran, sudo apt-cache policy, shows which APT repositories are currentl yconfigured.
[01:53] <janat08> well the ppas added by me worked
[01:53] <janat08> as i received updates straight after
[01:53] <janat08> or actually i added chrome too
[01:53] <tomreyn> so what is the issue there, or is there none?
[01:54] <janat08> well theyre not there anymore
[01:54] <andjjj23> 0/close
[01:54] <janat08> and it apparently complains about chrome ppa now
[01:54] <tomreyn> what is "they"? a separate PPA for nothing but VLC, and another for nothing but 'atom'?
[01:55] <tomreyn> you have the chrome repository configured twice, thus the warnings
[01:55] <janat08> ugh well i just saw atom
[01:55] <janat08> im sorry
[01:55] <tomreyn> you have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list - you probably want to remove one or the other
[01:56] <janat08> btw where is that etc directory
[01:57] <janat08> or how do u fire up file manager from terminal
[01:57] <tomreyn> /etc is right below the root directory, /
[01:57] <kk4ewt> naultilus
[01:59] <tomreyn> click on the dash and type it
[01:59] <cyberspectre> Installed package ubuntu-gnome-desktop, selected GDM as display manager (guess that was a mistake) and now I get an endless gray loading screen on boot. Please help
[02:00] <janat08> tomreyn: like once u get to etc directory
[02:00] <janat08> is there a way to open nautilus at that dir
[02:02] <tomreyn> janat08: try "nautilus ."
[02:02] <janat08> works
[02:03] <tomreyn> maybe add a & to the end, so you can continue using the terminal
[02:05] <cyberspectre> going to try dpkg-reconfigure lightdm in text mode
[02:15] <janat08> changing power battery settings, won't let me save
[02:15] <janat08> within etc dir
[02:20] <tomreyn> janat08: because your user is not allowed to write to this file. you would need to edit it using sudo. but whenever you use sudo, make soure you are aware of the consequences of your changes. in the worst case, those can result in data loss or the sastem no longer booting.
[02:24] <janat08> http://pastebin.com/vDEndtqF
[02:24] <janat08> is this terrible?
[02:24] <janat08> im just changing levels for low critical and action for power
[02:24] <tomreyn> those warnings are probably entirely normal
[02:45] <rocket__> hi ubuntu login does not work anymore suddently
[02:47] <rocket__> anyone?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> rocket__: Were you sudo'n where you should not have ? show ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' Did you recently run updates and broke a proprietary driver ? show ' sudo lshw -C display ' in a pastebin .
[02:55] <rocket__> Bashing-om, i cant log in
[02:56] <rocket__> i think its the nvidia driver
[02:56] <rocket__> it worked just a minute before
[02:56] <rocket__> maybe some update dont know
[02:56] <rocket__> i enter credentials and it jumps back into login
[02:56] <rocket__> it just worked a minute before
[02:57] <Bashing-om> rocket__: At the login screen, key combo crl+alt+F1 -> console interface . login here with your credentials .
[02:57] <rocket__> i even turned off login
[02:57] <rocket__> it does not work as well
[02:57] <rocket__> it says wrong password
[02:57] <rocket__> but i can try again
[02:57] <kenrin> you forget your password?
[02:57] <rocket__> no
[02:57] <rocket__> i even turned off login at the start
[02:57] <rocket__> no i didnt
[02:58] <rocket__> something is wrong
[02:58] <rocket__> well will try again tomorrow at least i have to use the resume shell
[02:58] <rocket__> root shell
[03:22] <aus_mal> Hi everyone.  Firefox is very slow to start up, even after a fresh OS install. No other browser I've tried has this problem. Has anyone else encountered this and knows of a workaround?
[03:23] <DocPlatypus> okay, Bluetooth troubles continue after the upgrade to 16.04
[03:23] <DocPlatypus> phone can't send files to laptop anymore
[03:29] <rocket__> it was a driver issue
[03:29] <rocket__> well i have to say drivers and linux work better but still its not optimal
[03:29] <rocket__> my printer does not work well
[03:30] <rocket__> and now the gpu driver just didnt work
[03:30] <rocket__> without any reason
[03:31] <stan_man_can> is it best to configure iptables with iptables-restore or ufw?
[03:34] <DocPlatypus> what is the first step to diagnosing Bluetooth problems?
[03:38] <Coyz> hello
[03:50] <smoon> how do i change the order of library paths ubuntu evaluates for C++ libraries?
[03:50] <smoon> i want /usr/local/lib to be the first path checked :/ failing to link to a library because it's using the system path instead of /usr/local/lib
[03:56] <smoon> i've tried configuring LD_CONFIG_PATH and ld.conf.do
[03:56] <smoon> .so*
[03:59] <dm_comp> any emacs fans! for some reason when try to M-> to get to the end of buffer I get no results. Am I missing something?
[03:59] <dm_comp> I'm on ubuntu 16.10
[04:00] <dm_comp> Also, I can't send to emacs channel :(
[04:00] <dm_comp> also is -> arrow key or M and ">"?
[04:06] <greta_samsa> What will the device name (in /dev) be for a USB Storage device?
[04:07] <reisio> greta_samsa: it'll vary
[04:07] <reisio> greta_samsa: lsblk -f will say, or sudo blkid
[04:07] <bgdnvst> greta_samsa: in my case, they're named with the following letters, as SDA and SDB are my SSD and an internal HDD, my USB key would be named SDC
[04:07] <reisio> greta_samsa: usually they'll show up in your file manager, too
[04:08] <reisio> fatlabel /dev/foo# FATISDUMBUSB
[04:08] <greta_samsa> My file manager isn't set up to mount them automatically, unfortunately.
[04:08] <greta_samsa> Thanks, everyone.
[04:08] <reisio> that's not unfortunate
[04:08] <reisio> but it will probably still show them
[04:09] <bgdnvst> greta_samsa: what are you using?
[04:10] <greta_samsa> bgdnvst: I'm running Server 16.04 (LTS).
[04:10] <bgdnvst> greta_samsa: I meant, as your file manager
[04:11] <greta_samsa> bgdnvst: In that case, ls, rm, cd, etc, mount, etc.
[04:13] <bgdnvst> greta_samsa: Ok, probably somebody else would be more comfortable to answer you, I rarely mount anything manually with cli tools. Good luck
[04:14] <greta_samsa> bgdnvst: I think I've got it from here. Thanks!
[04:14] <mwd> greta_samsa, if you find the UUID you can add an entry to /etc/fstab
[04:14] <greta_samsa> mwd: In this case I just have to copy a single file (my ssh pubkey) to use Core.
[04:15] <greta_samsa> mwd: But I'll remember how to automount stuff, thanks.
[04:15] <mwd> ah, i thought you were looking to make it automount
[04:15] <mwd> ok
[04:18] <singam> halo
[04:18] <deidyomega> How often does ubuntu update "/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_now"?
[04:19] <Ben64> it would update when it changes
[04:19] <deidyomega> It seems to be around ~5 seconds or so
[04:19] <fungmen> testing
[04:19] <fungmen> anyone here ?
[04:19] <Ben64> 1769 people
[04:20] <fungmen> ooo i see
[04:20] <deidyomega> @Ben64 except if the computer  is on, and  discharging, the battery is always reducing in charge
[04:20] <Ben64> deidyomega: ok?
[04:20] <deidyomega> @Ben64 And the charge_now isn't reducing every millisecond
[04:21] <Ben64> ok?
[04:21] <deidyomega> So, maybe my question is, when does it 'change', or when does the system check the actual battery level, and report it back to charge_now
[04:22] <zanshin> The eth0 interface has disappeared from my 16.10 installation. Yesterday I setup xrdp and was able to vnc into the box. Today I get "Error getting hardware address for "eth0": No such device". `ifconfig -a` only lists lo:, docker0:, and wlp2s0:. Not sure where eth0 went or how to get it back.
[04:22] <Ben64> when the system has new information
[04:23] <deidyomega> @Ben64, is there a predictable time when that might occur?  Or should I just check every second and hope for the best?
[04:24] <Ben64> it's probably not time based at all
[04:25] <deidyomega> @Ben64 Are you saying it's like a 'push' update from the kernal?
[04:25] <Ben64> from the battery
[04:25] <deidyomega> wut...
[04:25] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[04:26] <CodeMouse92> Is it still "good practice" to edit /etc/environment if I have a binary installed in a particular folder and I need it pathed?
[04:26] <CodeMouse92> If not, what is?
[04:26] <deidyomega> My computer seems to have a weird glitch where the system tell me I will have 30% battery, then instantly say I have 5% battery
[04:26] <Ben64> sounds more like a bad battery
[04:27] <deidyomega> I am writting a program to check the charge_now and then track it's decline.  See if it's the battery or if ubuntu is screwing with me
[04:27] <Ben64> why not just use the power statistics in ubuntu
[04:29] <deidyomega> I did, and the charge history shows a nice smooth decline
[04:29] <deidyomega> However the top right indicator, will stay in the 30's, then drop to battery critical on me
[04:29] <Ben64> bad battery
[04:30] <deidyomega> Then why does the charge history show a smooth decline?
[04:30] <Ben64> post it
[04:32] <deidyomega> @Ben64, how would you like me to post screenshots? does #ubuntu have a preferred method?
[04:33] <Ben64> imgur probably
[04:33] <Ben64> also post discharge profile
[04:33] <glitchd> 16.10 has been released, right?
[04:33] <Ben64> yes, the releases are named yy.mm
[04:33] <Ben64> so 16.10 came out in October 2016
[04:34] <glitchd> thought so..
[04:34] <glitchd> for some reason i cannot upgrade from 16.04.1 to 16.10
[04:34] <glitchd> throught the command line anyways
[04:34] <deidyomega> @Ben64 charge history looks good:  http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=648570f
[04:35] <deidyomega> However time to empty doesn't: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=1cce91d
[04:35] <glitchd> might anyone have any ideas why?
[04:35] <deidyomega> (notice the 1hr mark)
[04:35] <slyrobot> Will this fix the Skylake motherboard issues ??
[04:35] <reisio> glitchd: you might, if you say the error/s
[04:36] <Ben64> glitchd: are you aware that 16.04 is supported until 2021, and 16.10 is only supported until July 2017?
[04:36] <slyrobot> Has anyone tried using Ubuntu 16.10 ?
[04:37] <glitchd> reisio, well sudo do-release-upgrade returns "no new release found"
[04:37] <glitchd> Ben64, yes i am, i just like to stay up to date with th releases
[04:38] <freakyy> hi all. im using ubuntu budgie - how can i get ubuntu to save my ssh password for a session or for some time?
[04:38] <Ben64> well open the update manager and change your preferences from LTS only to whatever isn't LTS only
[04:38] <freakyy> if i do ssh user@host
[04:38] <Ben64> freakyy: what is ubuntu budgie
[04:39] <freakyy> Ben64: budgie is a new desktop environment which is accepted as flavour of ubuntu form 17.04 on. u can already use budgie though.
[04:39] <freakyy> it uses gnome stuff
[04:39] <glitchd> Ben64, wow i was wondering why i hadnt received a notification for the upgrade, that explains it. thx
[04:39] <Ben64> well until 17.04 i suppose, it isn't supported here
[04:39] <freakyy> hey glitchd :D
[04:39] <glitchd> yea?
[04:40] <glitchd> freakyy, ..?
[04:40] <freakyy> glitchd: it is - budgie is the official repos already and with a ppa u can already install the full budige remix
[04:40] <freakyy> glitchd: u remember me? i set u up an owncloud account because u helped me ;D
[04:40] <Ben64> PPA = not supported
[04:40] <glitchd> freakyy, thats right! lol
[04:41] <glitchd> freakyy, whats up bud?
[04:41] <freakyy> cant u guys tell me what gnome uses to save passwords for ssh sessions? ;D
[04:41] <Ben64> maybe in ##linux
[04:41] <freakyy> glitchd: not much ;D ... trying to get help ;D
[04:41] <glitchd> freakyy, gnome-keyring i believe
[04:42] <deidyomega> @Ben64 charge history looks good:  http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=648570f however time to empty doesn't: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=1cce91d
[04:42] <glitchd> freakyy, thats how it saves the passwords
[04:42] <freakyy> glitchd: thanks wait
[04:42] <Ben64> deidyomega: yep bad battery
[04:43] <deidyomega> Guess no amounts of C I write will fix that... Ok, thanks for helping!
[04:43] <glitchd> freakyy, wait for what?
[04:44] <freakyy> nm ... gnome-keyring is ok but isnt ther esomethin that sits in my system tray?
[04:44] <glitchd> pic?
[04:44] <glitchd> sry misread that
[04:45] <glitchd> freakyy, i have no idea about that tho..
[04:47] <glitchd> is it even recommended to update to ".10" releases?
[04:49] <Ben64> glitchd: .10 only means it came out in october
[04:49] <freakyy> glitchd: yea .. .10 is ok to use ... it has been released
[04:49] <freakyy> but its not LTS
[04:49] <Ben64> only half of the .04 releases are LTS
[04:50] <siva_machina> only the eve years
[04:50] <glitchd> i think ill just wait till the next lts then
[04:50] <siva_machina> even
[04:50] <freakyy> glitchd: ok ;D
[04:50] <glitchd> my system is solid, no need to fool with it for no reason
[04:50] <siva_machina> Nope
[04:51] <siva_machina> Unless it is for testing reasons.
[04:51] <glitchd> meh
[04:51] <glitchd> testing shmesting
[04:51] <glitchd> not for this guy
[04:51] <glitchd> maybe perhaps in a vm just for shits, but not on my hd
[04:52] <siva_machina> Only reason I would use one of the inbetween releases is to try Unity8
[04:53] <glitchd> ive never been a fan of unity at all
[04:53] <glitchd> im more xfce bound
[04:53] <siva_machina> Neither was I. But It grew on me
[04:53] <glitchd> u know what else grows? fungus.
[04:53] <glitchd> dont need that resource hogging dm
[04:53] <siva_machina> You know what grows on fungus?
[04:53] <siva_machina> mushrooms
[04:54] <glitchd> ba zing
[04:54] <glitchd> been there. done that. had a long walk back.
[04:54] <siva_machina> unless you have less 8 gig of ram and a really small hard drive. Resources shouldn't be to much of an issue
[04:55] <glitchd> ive always just found it not as snappy as xfce, and thats what im after.
[04:55] <reisio> right, unless your computer is from 2000
[04:55] <glitchd> i have 8 gigs ram and an i5 so it runs pretty decently
[04:55] <reisio> mmm, lovely Xfce
[04:55] <glitchd> yes, and yes.
[04:56] <glitchd> *yes and, yes.
[04:56] <siva_machina> In the end it is personal opinion or you need to squeeze every last bit of resource from your machine for some reason or another
[04:56] <reisio> yarp
[04:56] <glitchd> indeed
[04:57] <glitchd> well i gave unity a fair chance to sway my, and it did not.
[04:57] <glitchd> *sway me,
[04:58] <glitchd> i type fast lol often while doing something else at the same time
[04:58] <siva_machina> I think it the use of keyboard shortcuts made me kinda like it.
[04:58] <siva_machina> If I want something liht I useally go for i3wm
[04:58] <glitchd> right on, to each their own
[04:58] <glitchd> never used i3wm..
[04:58] <siva_machina> which is pretty much all keyboard shortccuts
[04:58] <siva_machina> shortcuts*
[04:59] <siva_machina> One thing I do like with i3. Your config for its settings is in 1 to 2 config files
[05:00] <siva_machina> making it easy to back up your ssettings
[05:00] <glitchd> im actually watching a video about it right now
[05:04] <freakyy> btw guys if u havent heard yet: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/ubuntu-budgie-now-official-ubuntu-flavor?utm_source=slideshow
[05:04] <freakyy> :)
[05:05] <zanshin> zanshin: Looks like you need an updated driver, however the e1000e 3.3.4 driver doesn't recognize the kernel included in Ubuntu 16.10 (4.8.0-27-generic). Phooey.
[05:07] <Freze> can you do LVM on two seperate hard drives and leave one harddrive with it's current default
[05:07] <Freze> I think sda is just ext4
[05:07] <Freze> but i want sdb and sdc to be one drive using LVM
[05:08] <freakyy> i have a question. anyone here using budgie?
[05:08] <reisio> freakyy: what if someone were
[05:09] <freakyy> reisio: i wanna know - there is this sidebar panel ... can i remove it? :D i dotn need it i think ;D
[05:10] <reisio> freakyy: most likely
[05:10] <freakyy> what is it called?
[05:11] <reisio> freakyy: raven, isn't it?
[05:11] <elias_a> freakyy: Use some other flavour of Linux, then or different desktop.
[05:12] <elias_a> The side panel is after all a very central part of Ubuntu,
[05:13] <siva_machina> I usually have the panel in Unity autohide.
[05:13] <freakyy> no i mean tplank .- thank you i found out ;D
[05:13] <CodeMouse92> Alternatively, if you're on Ubuntu 16.04 or later, you can just move said "side bar" (it's called the Launcher) to the bottom of the screen
[05:13] <siva_machina> Until I need it
[05:14] <freakyy> im not talking about ubuntu im talkin about ubuntu budgie
[05:14] <CodeMouse92> freakyy: Good to know :)
[05:15] <siva_machina> The panel on the right in Budgie you can also hide till you need it.
[05:15] <glitchd> freakyy, youre not talking about ubuntu, youre talking about ubuntu budgie --its still ubuntu
[05:16] <glitchd> freakyy, same base os, just with a different dm
[05:16] <reisio> tplank
[05:16] <freakyy> just plank
[05:16] <freakyy> the t came from the word beforre
[05:16] <reisio> budgie, raven, plank, all bad names :p
[05:16] <glitchd> freakyy, like me, im using ubuntu with xubuntu desktop installed, its still ubuntu to
[05:16] <glitchd> tho*
[05:16] <freakyy> glitchd: ok ;D
[05:17] <freakyy> ok guys, thanks for all your help ...
[05:17] <glitchd> freakyy, did your issue get resolved?
[05:20] <xiejinggang> hello
[05:20] <xiejinggang> 有人吗
[05:20] <glitchd> lol
[05:20] <underd0g> yo
[05:21] <glitchd> sup
[05:21] <siva_machina> I awesome 有人吗 means hello.
[05:21] <siva_machina> assume*
[05:21] <siva_machina> how the frack did I get awesome?
[05:21] <siva_machina> >.>
[05:21] <melonhead> installing KDE on Ubuntu 16.04
[05:21] <underd0g> haha dope
[05:21] <glitchd> because youre awesome
[05:21] <melonhead> any gotchas?
[05:22] <reisio> melonhead: only one
[05:22] <melonhead> what's that reisio?
[05:22] <siva_machina> maybe lack of being able to use your superkey/windows key without using ksuperkey.
[05:22] <glitchd> your spelling=)
[05:22] <reisio> removing Unity/GNOME deps you no longer need
[05:22] <reisio> 有人吗 -> anyone there
[05:22] <melonhead> reisio: is it as bad as trying to get rid of Noveau?
[05:23] <glitchd> google ftw
[05:23] <reisio> melonhead: it's easy, as is dealing with nouveau
[05:23] <melonhead> ok, reisio. I'm working on getting KDE in now
[05:23] <melonhead> will fight with GNOME shortly.
[05:23] <reisio> I forgot the command I used last time
[05:23] <glitchd> skip kde, go xfce
[05:24] <freakyy> glitchd: yea i was ablet o remove the dock ... i just dont get the sense why i would need it as i have the taskbar already
[05:24] <melonhead> "One fight at a time, fellas."
[05:24] <siva_machina> KDE does get become a bit better if you use Android.
[05:24] <freakyy> ok bye all
[05:24] <glitchd> freakyy, well i believe thats what the dm was using instead of a dock, so theyre basically the same thing
[05:25] <glitchd> siva_machina, how so?
[05:25] <freakyy> i dont get why i would need a ... dock if i have somethin glike what i have iwth budgie at the top
[05:25] <siva_machina> glitchd, KDEconnect
[05:25] <freakyy> with budgie its like with windows 10 u can keep your apps in the bar
[05:25] <glitchd> siva_machina, nvr used it..
[05:25] <glitchd> siva_machina, i dont think ive even used kde since like 10.04 lol
[05:26] <freakyy> ok bye all now :)
[05:26] <siva_machina> glitchd, If you ever try kde again I and you have an Android device. I suggest you do.
[05:26] <freakyy> bye glitchd  ^^
[05:26] <Vysty> I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 last time and I've run into some bugs and glitchy stuff. Can anyone help me trouble shoot?
[05:26] <siva_machina> bye freakyy
[05:26] <glitchd> adios freakyy
[05:26] <glitchd> siva_machina, ill keep that in mind
[05:26] <Vysty> last night*
[05:29] <Vysty> All went quiet suddenly.
[05:30] <reisio> Vysty: lies
[05:30] <Vysty> Good!
[05:30] <Vysty> Anyone able to help me troubleshoot the bugginess of my Ubuntu upgrade?
[05:31] <reisio> you'll have to explain the bugs before anyone can do that
[05:31] <Vysty> Indeed, I didn't want to blast everyone until I found someone who was interested in helping.
[05:32] <Vysty> First thing I get upon booting is this: [FAILED] FAiled to start Load Kernel Modules.
[05:32] <reisio> that's the purpose of the entire channel, FYI
[05:32] <glitchd> ..lol
[05:32] <reisio> does that stop you from doing something?
[05:33] <glitchd> Vysty, have you checked dmesg to see what failed to start?
[05:33] <glitchd> *what module failed to start
[05:33] <Vysty> When I log into my profile, I have no panels. I'm able to open a terminal my right-clicking the desktop and get a web broswer open (Firefox), but it crashes if I try to do anything with it.
[05:33] <Vysty> gltichd: I'm barely above an Ubuntu illiterate. How do I check those things?
[05:33] <glitchd> sounds like a problem with the session
[05:34] <glitchd> you should start a new session i think
[05:34] <Vysty> glitchd: How do I do that?
[05:34] <glitchd> what desktop are you using?
[05:34] <Vysty> Gnome
[05:34] <glitchd> unity?
[05:34] <glitchd> oh
[05:34] <glitchd> 1 sec
[05:35] <Vysty> I could never get the feel for Unity.
[05:35] <reisio> I'm sure you could, if you wanted to
[05:35] <glitchd> so all u have is a background picture then, right?
[05:35] <reisio> it's horrifically macOSy :p
[05:35] <glitchd> Vysty, so all u have is a background picture then, right?
[05:36] <Vysty> And some files and folders on my desktop
[05:36] <glitchd> Vysty, Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get in your TTY: Then issue the command below to reset your GNOME settings.
[05:36] <glitchd> Code:
[05:36] <glitchd> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[05:37] <Vysty> Will do. Also, if I need to paste anything, I'm on my wife's computer and will probably need to take a picture with my phone and post it.
[05:37] <Vysty> Where's the best place to do that?
[05:38] <danilo_> exit
[05:38] <reisio> mmm, imgur is fine if it's got no private info
[05:39] <glitchd> Vysty, pastebin.org for text and http://www.imghost.com/ for images
[05:39] <Vysty> Got it. I put in the code you gave me.
[05:41] <glitchd> Vysty, now you have to log out and then back in to see changes i believe
[05:41] <Vysty> How do I get out of this TTY thing?
[05:41] <glitchd> crtl+alt+f7
[05:42] <Vysty> Is there a keyboard shortcut to log out?
[05:42] <Vysty> My computer's power button isn't doing anything.
[05:43] <glitchd> sudo reboot
[05:43] <glitchd> waqit
[05:43] <glitchd> not that
[05:43] <glitchd> well actually yes, sudo reboot
[05:43] <Vysty> hahaha, already did it
[05:43] <glitchd> lol
[05:43] <Ben64> if you want to reboot, yeah
[05:44] <glitchd> i think the other would have been sudo killall lightdm
[05:44] <glitchd> i think..
[05:44] <Ben64> ew no
[05:45] <glitchd> lol then please, expand.
[05:45] <Vysty> We're about to find out what happened in any case...
[05:45] <glitchd> its all the same in the end anyways
[05:46] <Vysty> Logging in...
[05:46] <Vysty> Still have a bunch of System PRoblems Reported upon logging in.
[05:46] <Vysty> And still no panels.
[05:48] <glitchd> anything different at all?
[05:48] <Vysty> Nope.
[05:48] <Vysty> :(
[05:48] <glitchd> any different messages?
[05:48] <Vysty> None.
[05:49] <ubuntu364> اه
[05:49] <ubuntu364> hello
[05:49] <ubuntu364> i have this issue with 16.04.1 daily iso.  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326035
[05:50] <Vysty> glitchd: So how screwed does it look like I am here?
[05:50] <BrianTheDog> wow
[05:50] <siva_machina> ubuntu364, o/
[05:50] <BrianTheDog> using linux box
[05:51] <Vysty> glitchd: Do I still have ya with me?
[05:51] <glitchd> Vysty, yes
[05:51] <glitchd> sry i was distracted
[05:52] <Vysty> No prob. I appreciate you helping me.
[05:52] <ubuntu364> is there any way to fix it?
[05:52] <glitchd> can you log into the guest account from the login screen?
[05:52] <Vysty> We can try. Unless you can think of another way I can logout, I'll have to reboot again, yea?
[05:53] <Freze> anyone use lvm ?
[05:54] <glitchd> Vysty, 1 second
[05:54] <siva_machina> pkill -u yourusername
[05:54] <siva_machina> will log you out
[05:55] <glitchd> yes it will
[05:55] <siva_machina> doing it from a tty will also effect your xsession
[05:55] <siva_machina> if need be
[05:55] <glitchd> also you can enable the shortcut of crtl alt backspace with this setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[05:55] <Vysty> I just used the pkill.
[05:55] <glitchd> mmk
[05:56] <Vysty> Logged into guest session. Still no panels.
[05:58] <glitchd> Vysty, you said you were on 16.04 right?
[05:58] <Vysty> I am now, yes.
[05:58] <Vysty> Upgraded from 14.04.
[05:59] <Sircle> I am using loginctl to do multisat. On reboot the keyboards are swapped somehow. Why is this?
[06:00] <glitchd> Vysty, try this, if this doest work i would suggest reinstalling the gnome panels
[06:00] <glitchd> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[06:00] <Vysty> Should I do it as guest or as my normal login?
[06:00] <glitchd> normal
[06:02] <Vysty> gnome-panel: no process found
[06:02] <glitchd> hmm
[06:03] <glitchd> try just typing in gnome-panel
[06:03] <glitchd> from a terminal window, not the tty
[06:03] <Vysty> Aha! That got me something.
[06:04] <Vysty> Although it's still buggy.
[06:04] <Vysty> The panels showed back up.
[06:04] <glitchd> ok
[06:04] <glitchd> how is it buggy?
[06:04] <reisio> Sircle: usb fun
[06:05] <Vysty> The terminal seems to have shoved itself above where I can close it or move it around, and it has no corresponding place in the lower panel.
[06:05] <greeter> greetings, quick question, what command can i use on the command line to check my ip addresses?
[06:05] <glitchd> hold alt and click and hold on the window and move it
[06:05] <glitchd> greeter, ifconfig -a
[06:05] <siva_machina> Vysty, use xkill then
[06:06] <greeter> thank you kindly glitchd
[06:06] <glitchd> greeter, then look for you adapter and the ip attached to it
[06:06] <Vysty> glitchd: Not doing anything. Simply highlights more stuff.
[06:06] <reisio> Vysty: probably if you hover over the top left area, it'll show you the three colored circles
[06:06] <siva_machina> run xkill in the terminal then select what you want to closre
[06:06] <Vysty> reisio: Can't. They're shoved up above the panels.
[06:06] <glitchd> reisio, the top of the window is above the top of the screen
[06:06] <Vysty> Balls. The panels disappeared with the terminal.
[06:06] <greeter> off topic, anyone have a website that can test ipv6 connectivity?
[06:07] <reisio> Vysty: probably a 'move' item in the task bar
[06:07] <Vysty> reisio: Nothing is showing up in my task bar.
[06:07] <glitchd> Vysty, yes you can right click the windows button on the task bar an choose move then click and hold on the window to move it
[06:07] <Vysty> That's why I'm here. Everything is gltichy.
[06:07] <glitchd> hmm
[06:08] <glitchd> Vysty, i would just reinstall if it was me
[06:08] <Vysty> I'm thinking that might be the case. Will that wipe out my harddrive?
[06:08] <glitchd> depend on how u reinstall
[06:08] <siva_machina> Or how you installed Ubuntu in the first place
[06:09] <Vysty> Ungh...
[06:09] <glitchd> how much stuff do yo u have on the system?
[06:09] <Vysty> Lots.
[06:09] <siva_machina> if you used the whole harddrive with no seperate Home partition then most likely
[06:09] <Vysty> It's backed up, but I'd prefer not to have to restore if I don't have to.
[06:09] <Vysty> I can't remember how I broke up the partitions. How do I check?
[06:09] <reisio> lsblk -f
[06:10] <greeter> never mind, i found one, thank you kindly for your assistance. ubuntu, the best os ever created :-D
[06:10] <Freze> font rendering is kinda hurting my eyes
[06:10] <Freze> coming from windows
[06:10] <Vysty> Just tells me what the partitions are, not their sizes.
[06:10] <Freze> I find things really blurry
[06:10] <reisio> Freze: you on ordinary Ubuntu?
[06:10] <Freze> maybe I just need to get used to it
[06:11] <glitchd> Vysty, lsblk
[06:11] <Freze> yeah 16.04
[06:11] <Freze> I have subpixel antialiasing
[06:11] <Freze> and slight hinting
[06:11] <Sircle> I just changed nvidia driver from 340.x to 367.x via kubunt driver manager. It seems that I cannot use GUI now. How to rever via command line?
[06:11] <reisio> Freze: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[06:11] <Freze> changed to robot font
[06:11] <reisio> I find Windows' style worse, personally
[06:11] <reisio> but use what you like :)
[06:11] <Freze> is Infinality reccomended?
[06:11] <Freze> I read that it's not needed
[06:11] <Freze> anymore or has no effect
[06:12] <reisio> the only way that would be the case is if it were default already
[06:12] <reisio> which is possible, I don't keep track
[06:12] <Vysty> I got 465G on one, 70G on another, and a few others with a lot less than that.
[06:13] <glitchd> Vysty, what are you trying to find out about the partitions?
[06:13] <Vysty> siva_machina brought it up
[06:13] <Vysty> Sorry it appears I got distracted.
[06:13] <glitchd> its all good
[06:13] <Vysty> So if I go about reinstalling this thing with the intention of not having to restore my backup, how do I get started?
[06:14] <glitchd> i think he was referring to having your home folder on a different partition
[06:14] <Vysty> I hope it requires a sledgehammer, because I'm getting to that point.
[06:14] <glitchd> Vysty, insert cd and reboot
[06:14] <siva_machina> glitchd, that is what I was referring to
[06:14] <glitchd> Vysty, make sure computer is set to boot from cd
[06:14] <glitchd> siva_machina, right on
[06:15] <Vysty> And if I don't have a CD on me?
[06:15] <glitchd> do you have a spare usb?
[06:15] <siva_machina> flash drive then?
[06:15] <glitchd> siva_machina, beat you to it lol
[06:15] <siva_machina> NoOoOoOoooooo
[06:15] <glitchd> lolol
[06:16] <glitchd> its a race and we're running with our fingers!
[06:16] <reisio> ololol
[06:16] <Vysty> Let me see if I can dig one up. How much space do I need?
[06:16] <glitchd> Vysty, less than a gig
[06:17] <Vysty> Could I just use my backup external harddrive?
[06:17] <reisio> what's Vysty's problem?
[06:17] <siva_machina> most 1.5 on average
[06:17] <glitchd> how did u install the first time?
[06:17] <Vysty> reisio: dumerfuckeritus
[06:17] <Vysty> dumb*
[06:17] <glitchd> lol
[06:17] <reisio> Vysty: sure, but what specifically? :p
[06:17] <glitchd> his upgrade is just buggy as fuck
[06:17] <Vysty> An acute case of sever dumbfuckeritus.
[06:17] <Vysty> severe*
[06:18] <reisio> oh right, upgrade, I remember now
[06:18] <greeter> is there an off topic channel?
[06:18] <Vysty> glitchd: I don't remember. It's been awhile.
[06:18] <glitchd> Vysty, you dont remember burning a cd?
[06:19] <Vysty> I remember NOT burning a CD. :D
[06:19] <reisio> greeter: /msg alis list *ubunt*off*
[06:19] <glitchd> Vysty, lol
[06:19] <greeter> thank you kindly reisio
[06:19] <Vysty> I haven't burnt a CD in... a long time.
[06:19] <Vysty> Like I remember downloading songs off of Napster at 3 kb/s and burning CDs.
[06:19] <reisio> quite wise
[06:19] <glitchd> a usb would work in this case also
[06:19] <Vysty> Could I use my external HD for the USB?
[06:19] <Ben64> a cd won't work
[06:20] <glitchd> Ben64, ..?
[06:20] <Ben64> the isos are bigger than a cd
[06:20] <Vysty> External HD good or no?
[06:20] <glitchd> oh shit hes right
[06:20] <Ben64> Vysty: if you don't care about any data on it
[06:20] <reisio> Vysty: a usb stick would be simplest
[06:20] <glitchd> im used to the 6-700mb iso's that i install with
[06:20] <Vysty> CDs are practically bronze age technology at this point.
[06:20] <glitchd> yes.
[06:20] <Vysty> Shit. I'll go digging for a thumb drive.
[06:20] <reisio> you can probably still put a mini install image on a CD, though
[06:20] <Ben64> glitchd: haven't existed in a long time
[06:21] <glitchd> Ben64, what hasnt existed in a long time?
[06:21] <siva_machina> reisio, if the mini iso was any smaller you could put it on a floppy
[06:21] <reisio> there are technically simpler things than a usb stick, but they require more explanation
[06:21] <Ben64> glitchd: cd sized isos for ubuntu
[06:21] <reisio> siva_machina: if'n' you had one
[06:21] <glitchd> Ben64, oh, right.
[06:22] <glitchd> i made a little script to image an install iso to a usb and use it just like a live cd
[06:22] <Ben64> script? you mean "dd if=the.iso of=usbdevice"
[06:23] <reisio> maybe he made it so it will check if he's about to overwrite his pr0n :)
[06:23] <siva_machina> as much as I like useing the terminal. I still use a gui like Etcher to put isos onto a usb
[06:24] <glitchd> Ben64, yes basically
[06:24] <Vysty> Okay my wife had one.
[06:24] <Vysty> Need to move some data around.
[06:24] <glitchd> Vysty, ok for this to work your going to need an ubuntu iso
[06:25] <siva_machina> ctcp version?
[06:25] <glitchd> and i think the usb has to be in fat32 format, but i could be wrong about that
[06:25] <Vysty> Got a link so I can start downloading?
[06:25] <siva_machina> reisio,
[06:25] <glitchd> yep
[06:25] <glitchd> you can download in the terminal
[06:25] <glitchd> its faster
[06:25] <glitchd> wget *link*
[06:25] <reisio> siva_machina: /ctcp reisio version
[06:25] <Vysty> What's the link?
[06:25] <glitchd>  without the *'s
[06:26] <reisio> Vysty: where are you?
[06:26] <glitchd> lol i thought u had the link
[06:26] <Vysty> Washington State
[06:26] <reisio> Vysty: and you want what, kubuntu 16.10?
[06:26] <glitchd> whatever directory you run the wget command in is where the iso will be saved
[06:26] <Vysty> Ubuntu 16.04
[06:26] <reisio> http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/
[06:27] <glitchd> wget http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:28] <glitchd> use that command if u want the 64 bit iso
[06:28] <Vysty> Do I want amd64 or amd32?
[06:28] <reisio> well, may as well be http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:28] <Ben64> depends on your cpu (but there is no such thing as amd32"
[06:29] <Vysty> Oops.
[06:29] <reisio> Vysty: grep -i ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo && echo amd64
[06:29] <Vysty> My CPU I think is pretty slow. It's a laptop that's about 6 years old.
[06:29] <glitchd> what are u running right now?
[06:29] <glitchd> 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:29] <glitchd> and how much ram do you have?
[06:29] <Vysty> Blaaaaaa how do I find out?
[06:29] <reisio> Vysty: grep -i ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo && echo amd64
[06:29] <Ben64> whats the model of the laptop
[06:30] <glitchd> lsb_release -a
[06:30] <glitchd> shit im wrong
[06:30] <glitchd> lol that just tells you the release
[06:30] <Ben64> glitchd: watch the language here please
[06:30] <glitchd> Ben64, sry wont happen again
[06:30] <Vysty> reisio: it spit out: /proc/cpuinfo amd64
[06:30] <reisio> Vysty: then amd64
[06:31] <Vysty> Ben64: it's an HP
[06:31] <glitchd> then get the 64 bit iso
[06:31] <reisio> yomama's an HP
[06:31] <Vysty> Tell me about it.
[06:31] <glitchd> rofl
[06:31] <glitchd> im on an hp
[06:31] <glitchd> probook 4540s
[06:31] <reisio> I've no beef with HP
[06:31] <Vysty> Okay, I'm downloading the same .iso
[06:32] <glitchd> ok so while thats downloading, find out where your usb is mounted
[06:32] <glitchd> lsblk
[06:32] <siva_machina> I have no beef with HP either..just veggies.
[06:32] <glitchd> is it sdb or sdc or...
[06:32] <reisio> mmm, wheat gluten
[06:32] <glitchd> yums
[06:33] <Vysty> reisio: I quit eating wheat a couple years ago. Never looked back.
[06:33] <glitchd> more for me!
[06:33] <glitchd> omnomnom!
[06:34] <Vysty> Okay, what do I need to know about where this USB is mounted?
[06:35] <nullbytes> Is it possible to change the default compression level of gzip?
[06:35] <reisio> nullbytes: sure
[06:35] <reisio> but why
[06:35] <UbuntuDude> followed this tutorial and ended up neither being ubuntu nor xubuntu!!!!! https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative
[06:35] <glitchd> Ben64, the command i actually use is "sudo dd bs=4M if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb;  clean
[06:35] <glitchd> Ben64, the command i actually use is "sudo dd bs=4M if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb; clean
[06:35] <reisio> ...
[06:35] <glitchd> one to many spaces in the first one
[06:35] <Vysty> glitchd: Anything specific I need to know about where this USB is mounted?
[06:36] <UbuntuDude> I dont see the part "b. In the login window, click on the Ubuntu logo next to your user name. Select Xubuntu Session."
[06:36] <reisio> Vysty: you just need its device name
[06:36] <UbuntuDude> Turn Ubuntu 16.04 into Xubuntu 16.04
[06:36] <glitchd> Vysty, what the usb device name is "lsblk"
[06:36] <reisio> Vysty: it should be fairly apparent from lsblk -f
[06:36] <nullbytes> reisio: I have a lighttpd server using mod_compress to compress files. mod_deflate has a compression-level setting, but mod_compress does not appear to have that option.
[06:37] <reisio> Vysty: you can confirm based on capacity by running sudo cfdisk /dev/foo (don't change anything, just check capacity & quit)
[06:37] <Vysty> sdb1?
[06:37] <glitchd> Vysty, yes but you would just use sdb instead of sdb1
[06:37] <reisio> nullbytes: the whole reason people use gzip is for its defaults, though
[06:37] <Vysty> SOunds good.
[06:37] <Vysty> ETA 7 mins on that iso.
[06:37] <nullbytes> reisio: but I need maximum compression
[06:37] <reisio> nullbytes: if you wanted either faster compression or greater compression, you'd use something else altogether
[06:38] <reisio> Vysty: sdb1 suggests you have one internal hard drive, and a usb stick inserted
[06:38] <glitchd> Vysty, command would be dd bs=4M if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[06:38] <glitchd> Vysty, the usb stick is the only usb plugged in right now, right?
[06:39] <Vysty> YOu mean USB drives or USB anything?
[06:39] <nullbytes> reisio: what else could I use that would be recognized by the browser? I am using Content-Encoding: gzip
[06:39] <glitchd> usb drive
[06:39] <Vysty> Yes.
[06:39] <glitchd> ok
[06:39] <reisio> storage devices
[06:39] <reisio> nullbytes: there are no rules
[06:39] <glitchd> Vysty, i only ask because i have made typing mistakes with multiple drives plugged in and lost data like that
[06:40] <tsquar3d> Hey all -- I'm having an issue with my gui. Ubuntu desktop wont start and when I login via CLI I get "systemd-logind[1317]: Failed to start user service
[06:40] <Vysty> I appreciate you looking out.
[06:40] <reisio> nullbytes: but again, people use gzip because by default it strikes a decent compromise between speed & compression
[06:40] <reisio> nullbytes: it isn't the best at either of those
[06:40] <glitchd> Vysty, np
[06:40] <Vysty> Yup this is the only one plugged in and I backed it up.
[06:40] <glitchd> Vysty, good stuff
[06:41] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[06:41] <nullbytes> reisio: but I am using it because it for its browser support: http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/22217/which-browsers-handle-content-encoding-gzip-and-which-of-them-has-any-special
[06:41] <Vysty> So are there Linux networks yet where I can physically attend and have someone help me with this sort of stuff?
[06:41] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[06:41] <reisio> nullbytes: and browers support it for the reason I said
[06:42] <glitchd> Vysty, not that i know of, maybe Ben64 or someone else knows..
[06:42] <reisio> Vysty: 'LUG'
[06:42] <reisio> Vysty: but you shouldn't need more help than you're getting now, really
[06:42] <Vysty> Whazzat?
[06:42] <reisio> Vysty: it's a thing, check it out
[06:42] <nullbytes> reisio: but in my case, I need to maximize compression, so is it possible to use mod_compress in lighttpd with a higher compression level?
[06:42] <reisio> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+lug
[06:43] <reisio> nullbytes: what makes you think gzip's highest level would suffice?
[06:43] <Vysty> I'm sick of sitting at my computer waiting for all this stuff to do it's thing. My wife is bored in the other room. :(
[06:43] <reisio> Vysty: bored wife, oh dear
[06:43] <reisio> I know how to fix that
[06:43] <reisio> and statistically, the average time couples take to fix it is 4 minutes
[06:43] <glitchd> go "entertain" her
[06:43] <Vysty> Yea, it's called get off the ****ing computer, right?
[06:43] <reisio> I don't know
[06:43] <reisio> you don't necessarily need your eyes or hands :p
[06:43] <Vysty> For my computer or for my wife?
[06:44] <glitchd> ...lol
[06:44] <reisio> but, like
[06:44] <reisio> this channel also isn't going anywhere
[06:44] <reisio> you can go do whatever and come back later and get a similar amount of help
[06:44] <Vysty> Yea but I have a busy schedule and now I have time to deal with this issue.
[06:44] <reisio> no you don't, you just want to :p
[06:44] <glitchd> Vysty, right now till its done on the usb, its just a waiting game
[06:44] <reisio> it's a good way to teach yourself to make backups, though :)
[06:45] <Vysty> No, I do have I busy schedule. I have a wife to support and I'm starting an investment business at the same time as working normally.
[06:45] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[06:45] <Vysty> glitchd: okay, done downloading. I'm going to move it to the USB
[06:45] <glitchd> Vysty, also this is the reason i dont do upgrades through the update manager, i always do a fresh install to aviod these specific problems
[06:45] <glitchd> wait
[06:45] <Ben64> Vysty: move it? no
[06:45] <glitchd> you can jsut copy it to the usb
[06:45] <reisio> well, or you could upgrade from the terminal
[06:45] <glitchd> u have to use the command i gave earlier
[06:46] <Vysty> Aw crap. Now what?
[06:46] <glitchd> reisio, he just wants to reinstall
[06:46] <Vysty> I just drag'n'dropped.
[06:46] <tsquar3d> Nevermind -- I figured it out.
[06:46] <tsquar3d> I had to remove upstart.
[06:46] <glitchd> Vysty, it doesnt work like that
[06:46] <Ben64> Vysty: that just puts it as a file on there, won't work
[06:46] <nullbytes> reisio: because the highest compression level is 10% smaller, and bandwidth is more important to me than CPU.
[06:46] <Vysty> Fiiiiine
[06:46] <glitchd> Vysty, ill give u the command again
[06:46] <Ben64> nullbytes: use something better than gzip then?
[06:46] <Vysty> Okay, now where was that command?
[06:47] <glitchd> sudo dd bs=4M if=nameofiso.iso of=/dev/sdb
[06:47] <reisio> just use less code, then
[06:47] <nullbytes> Ben64: what is better than gzip that is widely supported by browsers?
[06:47] <Vysty> Ungh I think I'm going to lose it. Now the terminal is glitching out on me.
[06:47] <glitchd> Vysty, run that command in the directory that the iso is in
[06:48] <reisio> Vysty: CTRL+c (repeat as desired)
[06:48] <Random832> it's rarely necessary to use dd
[06:48] <Random832> you can just cp nameofiso.iso /dev/sdb
[06:48] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[06:48] <glitchd> Random832, is just faster
[06:48] <Vysty> glitchd: I'm unable to type in my terminal now.
[06:48] <reisio> Random832: not particularly less complicated
[06:48] <Vysty> glitchd: Should I just reboot again?
[06:48] <glitchd> Random832, and the usb wont boot if u just copy the iso to the usb
[06:49] <glitchd> Vysty, i guess
[06:49] <Vysty> blllalllasdfasdrarghhhh
[06:49] <Random832> glitchd: you're wrong. using cp in the way i described puts the data directly on the disk in the same way as dd
[06:49] <glitchd> Vysty, i feel you pain, im sorry man
[06:49] <Random832> i'm not talking about copying it into a mounted folder
[06:49] <Vysty> Nigh cometh the requirements of the sledgehammer.
[06:49] <glitchd> Random832, ok
[06:50] <Vysty> glitchd: It's okay. I could be running Windows, still.
[06:50] <glitchd> Random832, actually, i dont see how it puts the data on the usb the same way that dd does.
[06:50] <Random832> how do you not see it
[06:50] <Random832> what do you believe it does instead?
[06:50] <glitchd> because dd images the file to the usb cp just copies it onto the usb
[06:51] <Random832> no if you use the "/dev/sdb" in cp it also "images" it
[06:51] <Random832> i'm not talking about cp file.iso /media/whatever, i'm talking about cp file.iso /dev/sdb
[06:51] <glitchd> well damn. i did not know that.
[06:51] <glitchd> thank you for sharing the knowledge
[06:52] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[06:52] <Vysty> glitchd: Alright Sir, give me that command one more time please.
[06:52] <Random832> using dd just makes things more complicated because you've got to remember to put bs=something or it'll be slower (cp uses a default block size of 32k or 64k which is optimized for speed)
[06:52] <glitchd> sudo dd bs=4M if=nameofiso.iso of=/dev/sdb
[06:52] <Random832> of course the new fun way to do this is pv to get a progress bar
[06:53] <glitchd> Vysty, i pm'd you
[06:53] <Random832> pv < nameofiso.iso > /dev/sdb
[06:53] <glitchd> ive usd pv before for the progress bar
[06:53] <glitchd> used*
[06:55] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[06:58] <Random832> dd does have some advanced features that make it useful for some cases (if you need to copy only part of a file/disk, for example, or if you have a special device like a tape drive that requires precise I/O block sizes), but the usual "disk image" case is a historical artifact because a long time ago in the early 90s there was a bug in cp
[06:58] <Random832> so dd got put in a lot of tutorials, and then people copied those without knowing why
[06:59] <reisio> why would people want to store that information?
[07:08] <ubuntu881> need help i set up my apache server with php and mysql and also phpmyadmin tried installing forums onto the var/www and now the webpage only have loads after connected to database it shows only text no themes or nothing?
[07:10] <arjun6767> Dear All, I have installed tomcat in ubuntu 14.04 in google cloud instance and its running on port 8080 and now I trying to run tomcat on port 80 but able to do this so please suggest
[07:16] <yub> Hi, i'm connecting from my olivetti PC1
[07:16] <yub> 8088 512Kb RAM...
[07:17] <geirha> I don't think you'll be able to run ubuntu on that
[07:18] <yub> Nope... but the SLIP gateway is running ubuntu
[07:18] <yub> i'm running DOS 6.22 with mTCP
[07:19] <yub> just another challenge...
[07:20] <styler2go> Can someone help me with debootstrap or anything else? i am trying to install ubuntu next to my debian
[07:22] <Peetz0r> yub: POIDH! (he just left, I know)
[07:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[07:49] <abbbas> hey every body , i had a windows 10 installed with UEFI and then i install ubuntu , but windows wont lunch from ubuntu grub and error number : 0xc000225 , thank you
[07:49] <abbbas> where is the problem ??
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hmm
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> have you checked uefi bios settings
[07:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maybe disabled secure boot even
[07:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and linux is usually meant to use windows uefi boot loader on install of ubuntu i had to point to that
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbbas, ubuntu is in uefi mode like windows right? not legacy?
[07:52] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD:yes i think,
[07:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah both should be in uefi
[07:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and if its using windows uefi loader both should load
[07:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> which laptop?
[07:53] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD: so it can be about grub ? how i can update grub ?
[07:54] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD:  asus n551jq
[07:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas yes maybe depending on how things installed but the uefi boot loader itself more so than grub
[07:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas not sure what that error code means, but are you sure you didnt wipe out windows by mistake, when you installed ubuntu?
[07:57] <dwl301> Hi,all I have a question about ubuntu server intall.When I automatically install the ubuntu server, how to remotely(juest like vncviewer) view the progress of the installation?
[07:58] <dwl301> I would like to see the progress of the installation.
[07:58] <ducasse> dwl301: you can load an ssh module from the menu during install, then connect with ssh to finish the install
[07:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas when you install ubuntu and get to the grub setup there should be an option to make it use the windows uefi loader, well on my hp laptop was like that
[07:59] <ikevin> dwl301, start installation over ssh
[07:59] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD:  no i can run windows by changing bios setting that is not wiped out
[07:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas the boot order yourself?
[08:00] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD:  yes
[08:00] <dwl301> ducasse, ikevin   Where can find relevant information?
[08:00] <ducasse> dwl301: try the ubuntu server guide
[08:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas you mean like f5 or something and then the pc boot options and windows?
[08:01] <dwl301> ducasse, thank you.
[08:01] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD: yes f2
[08:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas and from that can also boot up ubuntu ok?
[08:04] <abbbas> SebthreeBQM10HD: yes
[08:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas ok
[08:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas I has a similar issue with a hp laptop, but where it would just boot up windows 10 unless going in the boot options of the lap top
[08:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas turns out i hadnt told it to use the windows uefi loader, once that grub would come up and both oses would load, plus i had secure boot disabled. did you specifically on install of ubuntu tell the installer to use the windows uefi loader yourself?
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas an asus laptop will be a bit different here and there, but that could be your issue
[08:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> abbas there should be uefi options that you can select yourself when installing grub from ubuntus installer
[08:15] <UbuntuDude> I think it's a fucking sick to ask a question in a specialized/dedicated channel and not one pays a fucking attention, you worthless fuckers should go do something else rather being here. morons
[08:16] <vahe> hi, how install polkit-gnome-authentication-agent ?
[08:16] <PCatinean> Hi everyone, I changed my password locally and since then either chrome or chromium keep forgetting my login after restart
[08:16] <PCatinean> does anyone know why?
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Firefox FTW h eh
[08:17] <PCatinean> yeah could be an option
[08:17] <PCatinean> brb
[08:25] <Anon_GSAT> Hi
[08:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[08:25] <glitchd> hey
[08:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hey
[08:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hej
[08:25] <glitchd> yo
[08:25] <SagelessFox_> hi, there
[08:25] <SagelessFox_> sup
[08:25] <glitchd> greetings
[08:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if everyone did that hmm
[08:26] <glitchd> salutations
[08:26] <Anon_GSAT> I just installed Xchat on my laptop
[08:26] <glitchd> congrats
[08:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, ok
[08:26] <Anon_GSAT> So what's going on?
[08:26] <glitchd> hi
[08:26]  * SebthreeBQM10HD doesn't particulary like Xchat GNOME, but hey its the irc client of this ubuntu tablet
[08:26] <guzzlefry> howdy
[08:26] <SagelessFox_> xchat is kinda odd....its author charges fee for windows version
[08:27] <Anon_GSAT> Ohh really
[08:27] <glitchd> because windows sux
[08:27] <guzzlefry> SagelessFox_: What about hexchat?
[08:27] <glitchd> lol
[08:27] <Anon_GSAT> I am using it on my Windows system
[08:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah there was a xchat 2 as well, but  probably still not been updated since 2009 no sure
[08:27] <glitchd> for windows just use hexchat
[08:27] <glitchd> its free
[08:27]  * SebthreeBQM10HD would  normally use Konversation from KDE, on any Desktop Linux distro :)
 xchat is kinda odd....its author charges fee for windows version <== it exist a free version
[08:27] <Anon_GSAT> Anyone has used Bash on Windows 10
[08:27] <Anon_GSAT> ?
[08:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, no
[08:27] <guzzlefry> Anon_GSAT: briefly
[08:27] <SagelessFox_> perhaps its author doesn't know the one who is using xchat on windows, must be a linux user, otherwise they will not use IRC
[08:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yay some life, but uhmm
[08:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ot
[08:28] <Anon_GSAT> It's actually quite good.
[08:28] <glitchd> linux ftw
[08:28] <guzzlefry> Anon_GSAT: I was using this before: http://cmder.net/
[08:28] <SagelessFox_> yes, I am using hexchat for windows
[08:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !windows
[08:28] <SagelessFox_> bash on windows sux
[08:29] <Anon_GSAT> Really?
[08:29] <Anon_GSAT> For one, yes I am unable to use any of the GUI utilities using Bash on Windows 10
[08:29] <SagelessFox_> ltsb windows doesnt support bash, but th provide install options...
[08:29] <AtuM> Hi all!
[08:29] <SagelessFox_> it*
[08:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that's a basic ubuntu in WIndows 10, well a bash
[08:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and that's off topic here!
[08:30] <SagelessFox_> that's just a rootfs
[08:30] <SagelessFox_> replace it wit arch, debian or something like that, it will surely work
[08:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> AtuM, hi
[08:30] <glitchd> AtuM, hi
[08:31] <glitchd> ginx!
[08:31] <AtuM> I'm reading about how to set-up bonding on Ubuntu. However there is no info on how to specify which bonding mode to use for specific bond.. I will need two - an active-passive for gigabit LAN and LACP for 10GbE ...
[08:31] <AtuM> Any clue on how to specify this without using rc.local ;-)
[08:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no
[08:31] <SagelessFox_> no
[08:31] <glitchd> nope
[08:32] <AtuM> SebthreeBQM10HD, SagelessFox_, glitchd was that ment for me ? :)
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes
[08:33] <SagelessFox_> yes
[08:33] <Anon_GSAT> I am an ardent fan of Linux. However, due to incompatibility with the softwares that I use I have not reinstalled any Linux distro on my Laptop for the last 2 years
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SagelessFox_, copier
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, which softwares ?
[08:33] <Anon_GSAT> This Bash on Windows 10 was a glimmer of hope for me to use Linux from Windows 10
[08:33] <AtuM> oh,.. tnx then.. so rc.local it is then
[08:34] <SagelessFox_> yw AtuM
[08:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, it's a experimental thing
[08:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, oringally meant to just be command line
[08:34] <SagelessFox_> beta feature
[08:34] <Anon_GSAT> I use ChemDraw, MS Office (a lot of features are not present on Libre Office yet)
[08:35] <SagelessFox_> try cygwin
[08:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, can get some gui stuff working or sort of,  with hacks etc or whatever,  but why not just dual boot with Linux, or have Linux in a vm with certain things,  for security it's better having  WINdows in the vm not the other way round but whatever
[08:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, SagelessFox_ I did think of Cygwin just now as well, but that's mostly just command line as well
[08:36] <hateball> AtuM: You should be able to set those options in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and and linux and co linu are probably not really worked on now
[08:36] <SagelessFox_> u can install gnome kde or whatever x11 appto cygwin
[08:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, you can get most of Microsoft OFfice working in Wine,  or with Codeweavers,  I Gues even play on linux
[08:36] <Anon_GSAT> @SebthreeBQM10HD Hope they improve on it. Atleast there would be some form for people to use the powerful command line interface of Linux for Windows users too
[08:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, ok not so sure how well very latest versions would work, but yes to what I put
[08:36] <SagelessFox_> and tem will work
[08:36] <SagelessFox_> they*
[08:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, and what featues of ms offic are lacking for you, libre office should be fine enough for most people, unless your going to do something ms office specific such as macros ?
[08:38] <SagelessFox_> PPL can run x11 apps on cygwin
[08:38] <Anon_GSAT> Sometimes I have seen that, when I present a PPT or submit a report to my professors the format changes
[08:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, what's CHemdraw ?
[08:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, well considering the fact that the MIcrosoft Formats are closed source
[08:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, and for support other programs have to reverse enginner support
[08:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, it's rather impressive how Libre Office etc, how well they actually support  them, but yes may not quite show the same as a result
[08:39] <Anon_GSAT> It is a tool for chemists to find analytical information about structures
[08:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, Linux is fine for lots of people or would be if only they knew,  most Linux distributions, but yes certain people have software that still requires WIndows really to use so, and that's just how it is
[08:40] <Anon_GSAT> I was planning on getting a Macbook Air this Thanksgiving. Is using the Unix terminal from a Mac similar to a Linux?
[08:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, Mac may not be able to run all your software natively as well
[08:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and this is off topic now
[08:41] <Anon_GSAT> Oh sorry
[08:44] <Anon_GSAT> Thanks for the information. See you around later! Good night!
[08:44] <SagelessFox_> gn
[08:44] <Anon_GSAT> #exit
[08:44] <Anon_GSAT> how do i exit? sorry
[08:45] <SagelessFox_> '/quit'
[08:45] <Anon_GSAT> Thanks1
[08:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Anon_GSAT, by turning your computer off :d
[08:45] <Anon_GSAT> Thanks!
[08:45] <Anon_GSAT> :p
[08:45] <SagelessFox_> yw
[08:51] <sorin-mihai> can anyone help me with this? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/6b11d76343b8c66012cca5f384cfda9b/raw/23f7019dfb89b3739205bcb4166c689fef77217d/gistfile1.txt
[08:52] <sorin-mihai> some time ago I had an nvidia card installed, and drivers where working ok. I remoived the card and now I can't remove the packages related to it.
[08:56] <hpp> hallo!
[08:57] <SagelessFox_> hi hpp
[08:57] <SagelessFox_> sup
[09:04] <tarkus> As far as I understand Ubuntu 16.10 comes with PostgreSQL 9.5, right? Does it support 9.6.1 or it's better to install just what comes by default?
[09:06] <SagelessFox_> you can install what you want. the default one is just the one that got stablized before the freeze stage.
[09:07] <tarkus> I'm new to linux... how can I install the latest version of PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 16.10?
[09:08] <SagelessFox_> for the newest version, you have to build it manually. plz refer to postgreSQL's official doc for installation guide
[09:08] <akik> how can i get a list of all different things (e.g. tzdata, locales, openssh-server) that i can run dpkg-reconfigure on ?
[09:10] <ikevin> tarkus, see http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/postgresql/xenial-pgdg/main/base/postgresql-9.6
[09:10] <tarkus> SagelessFox_ yeah, I came from the official site.. it's only covering Ubuntu 16.04 if I understood it correctly
[09:11] <SagelessFox_> it will not make much difference... yeah, there is a prebuilt version in deb
[09:11] <SagelessFox_> maybe you can install that deb
[09:12] <tarkus> I see there is "9.6.1-1.pgdg16.04+1" version, do you think it should work fine with 16.10?
 tarkus, see http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/postgresql/xenial-pgdg/main/base/postgresql-9.6
[09:12] <SagelessFox_> idk, but is's supposed to
[09:13] <SagelessFox_> if you dont trust the prebuilt version, it's better for you to build the app from src
[09:13] <OnkelTem> How to find/search for a specific shortcut in KDE?
[09:14] <SagelessFox_> that's not what included in ubuntu even a linux topic...OnkelTem
[09:14] <SagelessFox_> #kde
[09:15] <SagelessFox_> try this
[09:15] <OnkelTem> SagelessFox_: already
[09:15] <SagelessFox_> ehhh??
[09:16] <OnkelTem> SagelessFox_: I'm running Ubuntu actually but with KDE (since Ubuntu 14.x has ruined locale keys in the past)
[09:16] <OnkelTem> SagelessFox_: I've already asked on #kde
[09:16] <SagelessFox_> oops..
[09:17] <SagelessFox_> sry I never run kde on ubuntu :/
[09:17] <akik> OnkelTem: which shortcut are you searching for?
[09:18] <akik> OnkelTem: they're all in system settings/shortcuts and gestures. the big list under that in global keyboard shortcuts
[09:18] <OnkelTem> akik: Ctrl+Alt+A (it shows a menu where mentioned certain actions) while I need that shortcut in PHPStorm
[09:18] <OnkelTem> akik: I couldn't find it in that list :/
[09:19] <akik> OnkelTem: when you're in global keyboard shortcuts, select kwin as kde component. i can see ctrl+alt+a on that list as "activate window demanding attentioni"
[09:20] <akik> OnkelTem: this is on kde 4. are you using plasma 5 ?
[09:20] <akik> OnkelTem: i heard from someone else that plasma 5 has removed that selection :(
[09:21] <OnkelTem> akik: yeah, I remember it was there. Before. Now it is missed, there are KDE activity mananger, KDE Daemon, KDE Keyboard layout switcher and few more - but not Kwin
[09:21] <OnkelTem> I see
[09:21] <akik> OnkelTem: are you using plasma 5 ?
[09:22] <OnkelTem> akik, seems so. I'd say yes
[09:22] <OnkelTem> Well, I think I'm better to proceed on #kde as SagelessFox_ said
[09:23] <akik> OnkelTem: yea please ask there, i'm also interested where the shortcuts have gone
[09:23] <akik> OnkelTem: there's a list of about 100 different shortcuts on that list in kde 4
[09:23] <OnkelTem> akik: I'll write you back when/if find the way
[09:23] <akik> OnkelTem: i joined that channel too
[09:23] <OnkelTem> ok
[09:36] <freakyy> hi all. im on ubuntu budgie and i want to create a desktop icon. i tried creating one with gnome-desktop-item-edit ~ --create-new ... but it doesnt let itself move into the taskbar
[09:36] <freakyy> is there any way i can achieve this? im talking about minecraft
[09:41] <nullbytes> Is it possible to change gzip's default compression level? I want to maximize the compression level for mod_compress in lighttpd, but there does not appear to be a setting to change it.
[09:44] <ducasse> freakyy: you do know that budgie is not officially supported yet? might be better to try a budgie forum.
[10:10] <ubuntu416> hi
[10:11] <ubuntu416> i have this issue with daily iso. 16.04.1             https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326035
[10:14] <ubuntu416> ??
[10:15] <ducasse> ubuntu416: you are using the daily iso - those are for testing. use the normal iso if you don't want proposed updates.
[10:17] <ubuntu416> so there is no trick to uncheck proposed updates!
[10:18] <ducasse> ubuntu416: those iso images are for testing, you're not supposed to use them for regular installs.
[10:18] <walde> hi guys. does someone know how chromium actually determines, if kdewalletl, chrome or stupid fallback basic storage has to be used? chromium works fine (16.04) on my desktop, but with x2go it has problems to detect the running gnome-keyring and stores the passphrases unencrypted into the local storage. The keyring is only used if I set option explicitly. So I wonder how the detection-mechanism works.
[10:22] <b100s> hi2all
[10:23] <b100s> what we can do under 14.04 with Chromium since https://knowledge.symantec.com/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&id=ALERT2160 ?
[10:35] <ivan_> code
[10:35] <SagelessFox> talk is cheap
[10:36] <raphinesse> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 16.10 along a Windows 7 Installation on my SSD (The default option in the installer). I have another HDD in there. But obviously the Ubuntu installer did not put grub on either of these drives. No matter from which drive I boot, it starts Windows (without any prior grub menu)
[10:36] <SagelessFox> show us the code
[10:36] <EriC^> raphinesse: can you boot a live usb?
[10:36] <raphinesse> Any Ideas what could be happening? And more importantly how to fix it?
[10:36] <raphinesse> Yes, of course. That's how I installed it
[10:36] <EriC^> i mean now
[10:36] <SagelessFox> run update-grub
[10:36] <EriC^> to troubleshoot
[10:37] <SagelessFox> in a live distro, run that cmd
[10:37] <raphinesse> EriC^: Sorry, sure
[10:37] <EriC^> won't work SagelessFox
[10:38] <nullbyte_> raphinesse:
[10:38] <nullbyte_> mount /dev/sdaX /mnt
[10:38] <nullbyte_> cd /mnt
[10:38] <nullbyte_> mount -t proc proc proc/
[10:38] <nullbyte_> mount -t sysfs sys sys/
[10:38] <nullbyte_> mount -o bind /dev dev/
[10:38] <nullbyte_> chroot /mnt
[10:39] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to automatically set permission for each file created under certain directory
[10:39] <neredsenvy> well not permission but who owns the file/folders under said folder
[10:39] <nullbyte_> sry
[10:39] <EriC^> neredsenvy: there's setguid
[10:39] <SagelessFox> chown -r user dir
[10:40] <SagelessFox> * ^peter^ has quit ()
 well not permission but who owns the file/folders under said folder
[10:40] <SagelessFox> * Drone` removes quiet on *!*@unaffiliated/nullby7e
[10:40] <neredsenvy> SagelessFox, I know I can run chown on my own I want to to be applied automatically so I dont have to run it
[10:41] <raphinesse> nullbyte_: That would switch from live to the installed OS, right?
[10:41] <EriC^> neredsenvy: with setguid whoever creates the file it will always have the dir's group as the group
[10:41] <neredsenvy> if I run touch file under say /work dir I want it to automatically belong to work:www-data user:group
[10:42] <EriC^> neredsenvy: so you want the group to always be www-data?
[10:42] <nullbyte_> raphinesse: i have msgd u
[10:42] <neredsenvy> yes and possibly user to always be work
[10:43] <EriC^> neredsenvy: with setguid you can have the group, no idea about the user
[10:44] <mr_lou> Hello all. Can someone help me with this little issue? If I call /path/to/myscript.sh my-parameter, then my-parameter gets read fine by myscript.sh. But if I instead call gnome-terminal -e "/path/to/myscript.sh my-parameter", then my-parameter isn't read by myscript.sh. How do I make myscript.sh read my-parameter?
[10:44] <raphinesse> Oh for crying out loud! If I select "Try ubuntu" after Booting from Live I get four black screens!
[10:44] <nullbyte_> raphinesse: just run these cmnds from live dvd/cd ubuntu
[10:44] <nullbyte_> raphinesse: and then grub2-install /dev/hdd and update-grub
[10:45] <raphinesse> EriC^ nullbyte_ som much for the can you boot to liv -_-
[10:45] <mr_lou> Ah, nevermind.
[10:45] <EriC^> raphinesse: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[10:45] <nullbyte_> ok an installation dvd
[10:45] <nullbyte_> ...
[10:45] <nullbyte_> cd
[10:46] <raphinesse> EriC^: surprisingly not
[10:46] <raphinesse> DAmn it
[10:46] <EriC^> raphinesse: try booting the live usb with nomodeset as a grub parameter
[10:47] <EriC^> press e over try ubuntu when you get grub, and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz and add "nomodeset" there, then press ctrl+x
[10:48] <raphinesse> EriC^: The Live USB does not show a grub menu at all. It boots to a GUI (which works perfectly fine on all screens)
[10:48] <raphinesse> There, I can select Try or Install
[10:48] <raphinesse> Installing worked fine (sans the bootloader)
[10:48] <EriC^> raphinesse: ok, try pressing f6 and select nomodeset
[10:48] <raphinesse> Try gave me black screens with not even terminals
[10:49] <raphinesse> during boot i suppose?
[10:49] <raphinesse> OK, got it
[10:51] <EriC^> raphinesse: any luck?
[10:51] <raphinesse> Booting right now
[10:53] <raphinesse> Geez, I still wait for the one time a Linux installation will just work without any troubles
[10:53] <raphinesse> OK, nice
[10:53] <raphinesse> I got a Live OS
[10:53] <EriC^> raphinesse: ok, type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:53] <EriC^> paste the link it gives you here
[11:00] <raphinesse> http://termbin.com/dkbl
[11:00] <raphinesse> last two partitions of sdb
[11:00] <EriC^> raphinesse: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[11:00] <raphinesse> check
[11:00] <EriC^> raphinesse: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[11:00] <EriC^> type the whole line
[11:00] <tarkus> Can you recommend a good book or tutorial about using Ubuntu 16.10 (or 16.04) as a web-server (basic CLI administration tasks etc.)
[11:01] <raphinesse> check
[11:01] <EriC^> raphinesse: sudo chroot /mnt
[11:01] <quup> I'm using openvpn via NetworkManager and am trying to prevent DNS leak. in `nmcli device show tun0` I see the normal non-vpn DNS addresses. I tried adding manual DNS entries in the connection configuration, they show up fine but there is still one non-vpn DNS listed. How do I make sure only DNS servers provided by the VPN are used?
[11:01] <raphinesse> EriC^: check
[11:01] <ducasse> tarkus: look at the ubuntu server guide
[11:01] <EriC^> raphinesse: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[11:02] <tarkus> ducasse thanks
[11:02] <raphinesse> EriC^: check
[11:03] <EriC^> raphinesse: update-grub
[11:04] <raphinesse> EriC^: check, and it seems it found evrything
[11:04] <EriC^> raphinesse: ok, type exit then try rebooting
[11:05] <raphinesse> EriC^: however it complained about "unknown fs" and "cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdc3. Check your device map"
[11:06] <raphinesse> EriC^: sdc only has one partition o.O
[11:06] <EriC^> raphinesse: yeah, that's odd
[11:07] <raphinesse> EriC^: should I investigate or just leave it at that for now?
[11:07] <EriC^> raphinesse: i'd say leave it as is for now
[11:07] <raphinesse> EriC^: OK, let's see if it works then
[11:07] <EriC^> ok
[11:08] <raphinesse> EriC^: Yay, got a grub menu
[11:09] <EriC^> cool
[11:09] <raphinesse> EriC^: And it boots w/out nomodeset too. Thx so much
[11:09] <EriC^> great, no problem
[11:10] <raphinesse> EriC^: Now I can finally start my benchmarks for my Bachelor's Thesis :D
[11:10] <EriC^> raphinesse: great :D
[11:13] <Kartagis> !find avconv
[11:14] <Kartagis> heh
[11:14] <Kartagis> !find ffmpeg
[11:19] <DocPlatypus> Finally I've gotten some answers on Bluetooth... apparently it's been broken in the kernel for some time. :-(
[11:20] <xuke> ?
[11:22] <Michael87> So I'm planning on installing Ubuntu 16.10 and ditching windows 10 on my laptop. But while ine live mode I keep getting frustrated trying to find themes for ubuntu 16.10. Would themes from 16.04 work just as well?
[11:23] <ikonia> Michael87: you have to be careful here
[11:23] <ikonia> Michael87: there are different types of themes so you need to find a theme for the component you want
[11:24] <Michael87> ikonia, you mean for the type of environment. That I know. Ubuntu uses the latest unity. Just wondering if themes from 16.04 will be safe in 16.10
[11:25] <ikonia> Michael87: no, I mean there are themes for unity, themes for the display engine,
[11:26] <ikonia> Michael87: so you have to understand what theme "component" you're looking for
[11:26] <ikonia> Michael87: the ubuntu 16.04/16.10 does have the same base version of unity, but there is the unity8 preview available for 16.10 should you wish to use it, which - no idea if the themes are compatible, try it
[11:27] <Michael87> ikonia, I just want to be able to change the orangeness of ubuntu to something else like blue. and of course keep updated to the latest version
[11:27] <ikonia> Michael87: so do you really need a theme for that ? can you not set the colours (and again - there is a lot or orange, so what orange parts do you want to change)
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:29] <Michael87> ikonia, well the orange in all the menu's for starters
[11:32] <kamisama> anyone knows anyway to find why gcc is showing error???
[11:32] <kamisama> for c program?
[11:33] <DocPlatypus> kamisama: depends on program and error
[11:33] <kamisama> I know, but i heard there is a tool which shows /explains the error
[11:33] <ikonia> kamisama: it will output the error when you compile
[11:34] <ikonia> you need to understand what's going on to debug it,
[11:34] <tarkus> How to reloging (remotely) after changing locale? 16.10
[11:34] <ikonia> tarkus: log out and back in
[11:34] <ikonia> and it depends where/how you've changed the locale
[11:35] <tarkus> ikonia I have made changes to the /etc/default/local, but doing "exit" and then "ssh <machine>" doesn't make any difference
[11:35] <tarkus> running "locale" prints warning about LC_ALL not being set
[11:35] <ikonia> tarkus: where are you setting LC_ALL ?
[11:36] <tarkus> ikonia in the "/etc/default/locale" file
[11:36] <ikonia> so are you using a "login" session for ssh, hang on a moment
[11:38] <ikonia> tarkus: so /etc/default/locale is not parsed by the shell
[11:38] <jacalope> Hi. Is a log kept of the ubuntu irc channels?
[11:39] <Michael87> so does anyone know if project 64 2.3 runs in wine? becuase I can't test it live and that's an issue from me switching from windows 10 on my laptop. I realize Mupens an option but you can't emulate a transfer pak on Mupen last I checked
[11:39] <ikonia> !logs | jacalope
[11:39] <ikonia> Michael87: ask the wine support channel
[11:40] <Michael87> ikonia, oh. forgot to check if they had a channel. Thank you for the info
[11:45] <arlekin> Hi there! Anyone knows how i can fix issue with software / hardware touchpad switch conflict in gnome 3 ?
[11:49] <arlekin> The issue looks like that: if i toogle hardware switch it also toggles software one, but the software one remembers its state from previous system sessions, which leads to situation in which they cross eachother
[11:50] <arlekin> the solution is to turn of the software one since i only ever use the hardware one (meaning button on the laptop)
[11:51] <arlekin> it is solvable, but not sure where i can find how to fix it for ubuntu 16.04 with gnome 3.19
[12:00] <xdevnull> Hello
[12:01] <xdevnull> My ubuntu software is not working... If i type something to search. or if i open category. i only get squares with ... inside
[12:01] <xdevnull> the search keeps loading
[12:05] <hateball> xdevnull: Has this worked before?
[12:06] <xdevnull> First time i use it.
[12:06] <xdevnull> I searched some guys mentioned language related.
[12:07] <xdevnull> i changed the language. how to restart the ubuntu software? it's show "installing" something.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> xdevnull wait until install is complete
[12:10] <xdevnull> it's not installing anything, i only downloaded .deb file and i installed it via software center "i'm using it now"
[12:10] <xdevnull> but somehow, it is showing that the file is still installing.
[12:10] <cfhowlett> xdevnull, next time, install the package normally through the software centr
[12:10] <ikonia> for someone who is "using it for the first time" you appear to be doing some over advanced things
[12:10] <xdevnull> cfhowlett, can you please read the previous message.
[12:11] <cfhowlett> xdevnull, seen it.  installing a DEB file is not the preferred method.  use the software in the repos
[12:12] <xdevnull> cfhowlett, I'm not able to search on it. or do anything else except download .deb files and install via it.
[12:12] <ikonia> download debs ??
[12:12] <ikonia> xdevnull: what are you trying to install ?
[12:12] <xdevnull> wait. I'll make a screenshot.
[12:13] <jacalope> ikonia: thanks, you're beautiful!
[12:14] <xdevnull> http://prnt.sc/d7j6xx
[12:14] <xdevnull> http://prnt.sc/d7j73z
[12:15] <ikonia> xdevnull: what are you trying to install
[12:15] <xdevnull> HexChat
[12:15] <ikonia> xdevnull: so why did you download a deb for that ?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> xdevnull, that is in the repos.  no deb needed
[12:16] <ikonia> and how did you change your language
[12:16] <xdevnull> Okay. forget .deb file.
[12:16] <ikonia> jacalope: no problem
[12:16] <ikonia> xdevnull: no, thats quite important
[12:16] <xdevnull> Well, it has nothing to do with it. It wasn't working before that
[12:17] <xdevnull> It's simply empty filled with "..."
[12:17] <xdevnull> Ubuntu 16.04 shows no application data found
[12:17] <xdevnull> this is my issue
[12:19] <cfhowlett> xdevnull, how did you change the language settings??
[12:20] <xdevnull> nvm i downloaded the old "software center"
[12:20] <xdevnull> now it's working
[12:27] <ali_> hello
[12:27] <ali_> testing
[12:27] <cfhowlett> we see you
[12:31] <YahavXX> Hello guys
[12:31] <YahavXX> i can really use some help
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !ask | YahavXX
[12:31] <YahavXX> i got a program installed, i can access it through the terminal, but when itry to access it through ssh with the same user i get "the package is not installed" message.
[12:32] <YahavXX> i noticed that when i'm through the ssh, the $PATH var doesn't contain the path to the program
[12:32] <YahavXX> however i do not know how to work this
[12:35] <whothehellami> Hi, I am not sure if following is a general host issue or related to docker but I've installed docker and my host does not get an IP via ethernet. Is this a common problem? I've never tested ethernet after reinstalling ubuntu so I can't say for sure if it was working before
[12:36] <ikonia> whothehellami: the host or the guest
[12:36] <ikonia> whothehellami: as they are very different
[12:36] <whothehellami> host
[12:36] <ikonia> so is it the physical interface or the pass through interface to docker
[12:36] <whothehellami> well I've not tested connection inside guest with ethernet only
[12:37] <mjayk> Haya all when i select En_GB keyboard settings the @ key is produces Ω
[12:37] <mjayk> any idea how to fix
[12:37] <ikonia> whothehellami: if the host doesn't have a connection, the guests will not work
[12:37] <whothehellami> ikonia, wifi is working in both host and guest
[12:37] <ikonia> whothehellami: how can wifi be working on the guest ?
[12:38] <ikonia> whothehellami: I think you maybe need to clarify that question as maybe the wording is missleading
[12:38] <whothehellami> ikonia, sry. I meant that if I activate wifi on the host I have a internet connection inside the guest
[12:38] <ikonia> whothehellami: ok, so what is the actual problem then ?
[12:39] <whothehellami> ikonia, if I plugin a ethernet cable I don't get a connection
[12:39] <ikonia> whothehellami: do you have it set to dhcp ?
[12:39] <ikonia> whothehellami: is the connection the same network as the wifi network
[12:41] <whothehellami> ikonia, I was trying to connect to a network today via ethernet but it was not working. I had the same issue after connecting to my home router
[12:41] <whothehellami> ikonia, home router as active dhcp
[12:43] <ducasse> whothehellami: is the ethernet interface configured to request an address over dhcp?
[12:45] <whothehellami> ikonia, yep. but wait. mby this is related to the network-manager bug. that one that causes problems after suspending
[12:45] <whothehellami> ikonia, I'll restart my system and check it again
[12:54] <whothehellami> ikonia, stupid me!!! it didn't connect automatically... I had to click 'auto ethernet' -_-
[12:58] <MLGA> hi, is chromium 54 anywere to be seen?
[12:58] <whoreish1d0ljpg[> lolol what
[12:58] <whoreish1d0ljpg[> ohh
[12:58] <MLGA> i am so triggered by the certification errors
[12:59] <whoreish1d0ljpg[> T R I G G E R E D
[12:59] <MLGA> fixed it with this https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage top kek
[12:59] <ikonia> whothehellami: please don't
[12:59] <cfhowlett> whoreish1d0ljpg[, please stay on topic: ubuntu support.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:00] <MLGA> when is the updated pkg released for ubuntu
[13:01] <cfhowlett> MLGA, the package maintainers can tell you their schedule
[13:01] <whothehellami> ikonia, well that happens if you get used to use wifi. but I am pretty sure that it was connecting automatically with <= 14.04
[13:02] <WeiJunLi> i have a vm with 10.5gb available is it enough space to build 4.8.0 kernel?
[13:03] <MLGA> cfhowlett, alright! under budget and ahead of schedule!
[13:12] <WeiJunLi> i have a vm with 10.5gb available is it enough space to build 4.8.0 kernel?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> WeiJunLi, barely.  perhaps lubuntu or xubuntu would be a better fit
[13:14] <tomreyn> cfhowlett: i think he says he wants to build the kernel, not run ubuntu
[13:14] <WeiJunLi> cfhowlett: how much is necessary?
[13:14] <ikevin> WeiJunLi, yes it's enough
[13:15] <tomreyn> if you just want to build the kernel 10.5 GB disk space, whether or not it includes the running OS, should be sufficient.
[13:16] <WeiJunLi> ikevin: i will edit .config to have some few debug features and use that compiled kernel
[13:17] <mcphail> The last time I built a kernel, a 6GB RAM disk was too small
[13:17] <mcphail> Adding debug feature inflates the size enormously
[13:18] <ikevin> i've maybe say a mistake: During the make/compile, the disk space in use went up to 15674 MB. So: more than 15GB ...
[13:21] <WeiJunLi> ikevin: hmmm, my host has 66gb avaiable but i cant create vms with space enough
[13:21] <liuxg> when I try to install skype on Ubuntu 16.04, I get an error like "dpkg: skype:i386: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you requested:
[13:21] <liuxg>  skype:i386 depends on libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.2~2011week36)."
[13:21] <WeiJunLi> dont know why, im using vmware fusion
[13:22] <liuxg> I have used "sudo dpkg --force-depends -i skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb" to install the downloaded skype debian package. Still, I get dpkg: skype:i386: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you requested:
[13:22] <liuxg>  skype:i386 depends on libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.2~2011week36).. I have already used "sudo apt-get -f install" command
[13:24] <mcphail> liuxg: you've answered your own question there. You've tried to force an install with unmet dependencies. In that case, it is up to you to find, supply and support the dependencies. The package manager cannot help you
[13:24] <ikevin> liuxg, what does apt-cache policy libqtwebkit4 return?
[13:24] <hateball> liuxg: Why are you not just installing Skype from the partner repo?
[13:25] <hateball> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[13:25] <mcphail> skype is broken, anyway
[13:25] <liuxg> ikevin, it is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480298/
[13:25] <liuxg> hateball, I also did it, but it showed me the same thing.
[13:26] <ikevin> your libqtwebkit4 version is more recent what it need
[13:26] <liuxg> hateball, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480304/, it is like this.
[13:27] <liuxg> mcphail, what is the correct way to install skype on 16.04 ubuntu?
[13:27] <aruns> Hi.
[13:27] <aruns> Is the Edubuntu project still active?
[13:27] <mcphail> liuxg: sjype is broken on linux just now
[13:27] <cfhowlett> aruns, barely
[13:28] <aruns> cfhowlett: Ah OK, was looking into a kid friendly Linux distro for my friend's kids' laptops.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> aruns, they did not deliver a 16.04 release so ...
[13:28] <mcphail> liuxg: Microsoft dropped support and are switching to a new client, which has limited functionality at present
[13:28] <ikevin> liuxg, use partner respo
[13:28] <cfhowlett> aruns, 14.04 is still active
[13:28] <liuxg> mcphail, really? that was crazy. I thought it was the software issue, and I reinstalled it just now.
[13:28] <aruns> cfhowlett: Do you think that would be OK for them to use in terms of its stability and access to latest packages?
[13:28] <mcphail> liuxg: You _might_ still be able to make linux to linux calls for a while, but you'll struggle to connect to any other clients
[13:28] <liuxg> ikevin, yes, I have enabled it in the "software & updates"
[13:28] <aruns> cfhowlett: They would want to use programs like Scratch.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> for sure, aruns.  14.04 has 5 years of support, so go for it.
[13:29] <mcphail> liuxg: so i wouldn't waste your time installing the skype package just now
[13:29] <aruns> cfhowlett: Ah OK, because I was thinking of installing Ubuntu for them, but that's not necessarily kid friendly, is it?
[13:29] <aruns> Saying that, they are very smart for their ages.
[13:29] <aruns> *age
[13:29] <liuxg> mcphail, it did not show me the pad to input a conference key. so I removed it. now, I cannot install it correctly.
[13:29] <cfhowlett> aruns, not sure I'd go that far.  kids are usually much more clever than their parents ...
[13:30] <liuxg> mcphail, but at least I should install it for the future, right?
[13:30] <aruns> cfhowlett: Hmm, so maybe I SHOULD install Ubuntu for them instead.
[13:30] <mcphail> liuxg: I would just nuke it. It is worthless now. Hopefully a working version will be developed
[13:30] <cfhowlett> aruns, but you could always install the edubuntu packages over in ubuntu.
[13:30] <aruns> cfhowlett: There are three kids, two daughters and one son, the elder daughter and the son are around 11 - 12.
[13:30] <liuxg> mcphail, the version was really old. 12.04 ubuntu one, and it is i386
[13:31] <aruns> cfhowlett: Ah, didn't know that. Will look into that for them.
[13:31] <mcphail> liuxg: the linux client hadn't been updated for ages. But now it is actually deprecated
[13:31] <cfhowlett> aruns, I would think they could easily adapt to *.buntu.  as for adding the edubuntu, sudo apt install edubuntu-desktop should do it
[13:32] <liuxg> mcphail, yes, for me, google hangout is blocked by the China government, skype is still useful sometimes.
[13:33] <mcphail> liuxg: then you'll need to use it on another OS. Linux does not have a functional client just now, if you need videochat
[13:33] <liuxg> mcphail, it is too bad to hear that :)
[13:34] <mcphail> liuxg: yes, it is a pain
[13:34] <aruns> cfhowlett: Thanks.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> aruns, happy2help!
[13:34] <aruns> I'm also mindful that they ARE kids, so need to consider any requirements.
[13:34] <liuxg> mcphail, it is a big pain :(. Microsoft is not developing it any more
[13:34] <aruns> cfhowlett: For instance, obviously setting up multiple accounts is a must.
[13:35] <aruns> cfhowlett: And configuring user and group permissions.
[13:35] <aruns> cfhowlett: So that my friend, their father, will have full administrative privileges.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> aruns, indeed.  :)
[13:35] <ikevin> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1592 skype seems to work under wine (using the windows version)
[13:35] <aruns> cfhowlett: I'm also thinking about backups, I might configure the home directory as a Git repo.
[13:36] <aruns> cfhowlett: I mean, for the kids, that's really the only directory they'd be using I am guessing.
[13:36] <cfhowlett> aruns, if you set them up with standard desktop user and yourself as the system administrator, most issues will be avoided
[13:37] <mcphail> ikevin: I can't check that link from here. Is that the current Windows version? The original windows client was deprecated as well (I think...)
[13:37] <aruns> cfhowlett: So it wouldn't be worth configuring a Git repo for the home directory just in case?
[13:37] <Amm0n> liuxg, ditch skype and use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_%28protocol%29
[13:37] <aruns> cfhowlett: Because at the same time, I wouldn't want to stifle their creativity.
[13:37] <ikevin> mcphail, 7.x version
[13:38] <cfhowlett> aruns, Oh, I would NEVER suggest not setting up a reliable backup!  dropbox or whatever other method works for you
[13:38] <aruns> cfhowlett: Yeah, I usually use Git :)
[13:38] <aruns> But maybe I should get Dropbox set up.
[13:38] <aruns> Does Ubuntu allow you to write to NFTS drives?
[13:39] <aruns> I know Mac is read-only for NFTS external drives.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !ntfs | aruns
[13:39] <aruns> Thanks :)
[13:39] <aruns> !NTFS-3g
[13:39] <mcphail> ikevin: nice. That looks contemporary
[13:40] <aruns> !FUSE
[13:40] <akik> liuxg left but here's a link to the updated skype alpha version: https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[13:47] <akik> liuxg: here's an updated skype for linux (alpha version) client link: https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-for-Linux-Alpha-and-calling-on-Chrome-amp-Chromebooks/td-p/4434299
[13:47] <liuxg> akik, many thanks for your help!
[13:50] <e2_> www.anon.fm
[13:51] <cfhowlett> e2_, please do not spam random links here.  thank you.
[13:52] <liuxg> akik, I just installed it, but it did not run on my 16.04 Ubuntu
[13:52] <akik> liuxg: skypeforlinux is the application name
[13:53] <liuxg> akik, yes, I found it in the dash, but it did not get launched. it flashes a bit, and then nother happened.
[13:54] <akik> liuxg: ok sorry for that. it works in kubuntu 14.04 (x86_64)
[13:54] <liuxg> akik, anyway, thanks for your reply.. Maybe it is not adopted to 16.04 yett
[13:54] <akik> liuxg: what error do you get when you launch it from the terminal?
[13:55] <dekon> akik: cool, thanks :)
[13:56] <dekon> akik: didn't know there is a newer version of skype ;)
[13:57] <akik> dekon: yes it's from a couple of months ago
[13:57] <liuxg> akik, there is no error shown on termnial.. however, I see an indicator on ther right-top of it. clicking open skype, nothing happens.
[13:58] <liuxg> akik, is this because of the skype out of order for the monent?
[13:58] <akik> liuxg: it works for me in kubuntu 14.04 (x86_64)
[13:59] <liuxg> akik, it could be working somehow. because it did not work just now, I uninstalled my previous installation. so, there are a lot of toubles for me.
[13:59] <akik> liuxg: you didn't get any window asking you to login to skype ?
[14:01] <liuxg> akik, yes, I did not get any window for login.
[14:02] <akik> liuxg: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34656/more-information-about-skype-for-linux-alpha says it was tested with ubuntu 16.04
[14:03] <DocPlatypus> Fix/workaround for Bluetooth issues: install blueman and use that instead of GNOME's built-in Bluetooth module
[14:03] <ikevin> it's working fine for me (on mint 18 / ubuntu xenial)
[14:03] <akik> ikevin: do you mean skype ?
[14:04] <ikevin> akik, yes
[14:04] <liuxg> akik, it is strange. I think it could be related to the skype service. just now mcphail also said that it did not work in his place as well.
[14:07] <akik> liuxg: i tested the call testing service and it worked fine
[14:08] <kvoz> Anyone able to help me with an RPM spec? Trying to make it so it works with both python2.6 and 2.7 but cant figure out how
[14:09] <liuxg> akik, on my android phone, it is fine too. I do not know what happened on my 16.04
[14:10] <cfhowlett> kvoz, as RPM is foreign to ubuntu, perhaps ask #fedora or #redhat
[14:12] <liuxg> akik, just rebooted my system, and it is the same..
[14:12] <BlackVenom> Hey folks. I've just tried to move some files and got an input/output error
[14:12] <BlackVenom> mv: error reading 'documents/PC_Backup_To_Sort/Images to sort/800AAAAA/IMG_1113.MOV': Input/output error
[14:13] <BlackVenom> is this likely to be a drive fault?
[14:13] <ikevin> liuxg, does all depends are ok?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> could be especially if you see that msg repeatedly BlackVenom
[14:13] <liuxg> ikevin, yes, it is fine now.
[14:14] <BlackVenom> I've had it a few times now yes
[14:14] <cfhowlett> see your smart monitor tools
[14:14] <BlackVenom> i'm running ubuntu server headless, how do I access this?
[14:14] <liuxg> ikevin, it is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480534/
[14:15] <ikevin> BlackVenom, it can be a drive problem or FS problem
[14:15] <cfhowlett> BlackVenom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[14:16] <liuxg> ikevin, akik, clicking the open skype has no effect http://imgur.com/a/dkeLa
[14:16] <BlackVenom> thanks cfhowlett
[14:16] <BlackVenom> I'll give that a look
[14:16] <cfhowlett> BlackVenom, happy2help!
[14:17] <BlackVenom> ikevin, thanks :)
[14:17] <ikevin> liuxg, systray icon don't work in my case too, you can exec skypeforlinux in a terminal to have it in foreground
[14:18] <liuxg> ikevin, I run it in a terminal as well. but it does not come to the foreground
[14:19] <ikevin> :o
[14:19] <ikevin> it's possibly an issue with unity
[14:19] <liuxg> ikevin, yes, I think so..
[14:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[14:21] <akik> liuxg: check that you have libgnome-keyring0 installed. that faq mentions it needs it
[14:21] <akik> liuxg: dpkg -l libgnome-keyring0
[14:22] <liuxg> akik, thanks. I am now trying.. it says there is a dependence there already
[14:23] <liuxg> akik, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480597/
[14:24] <akik> liuxg: when you run it from terminal, does it output anything there or does it fall back to the shell prompt ?
[14:25] <zuzia_> hi
[14:25] <liuxg> akik, it is like http://imgur.com/a/byZe4. nothing is there. there is a running icon, but it does not bring the app to the front
[14:26] <akik> liuxg: you're so near, yet so far :)
[14:28] <liuxg> akik, yeah, I do not know what happened :(
[14:29] <ikevin> try with another DE if you have the same problem
[14:33] <BlackVenom> ikevin do you know how to read this smart data?
[14:35] <ikevin> BlackVenom, gnome-disk-utility can give you a short human readable info about your disk status
[14:35] <BlackVenom> i'm running the ubuntu server headless. Accessing the server via ssh
[14:36] <hateball> BlackVenom: use smartctl
[14:36] <ikevin> gnome-disk-utility (and other gui tools) can be run over ssh (ssh user@host -X application)
[14:37] <ikevin> if you have a webserver, you can use phpsysinfo to have smart reports
[14:37] <BlackVenom> I've done that and got access to the report http://paste.ubuntu.com/23480639/
[14:37] <BlackVenom> But no idea what it all means lol
[14:37] <hateball> BlackVenom: read and seek error rates are off the charts
[14:38] <hateball> BlackVenom: backup and replace
[14:38] <BlackVenom> So looks like a failed HDD?
[14:38] <hateball> yes
[14:39] <BlackVenom> Oh dear
[14:39] <mave_> it's dying indeed
[14:39] <mave_> weird that it passes the test though
[14:40] <hateball> I dunno what the thresholds for smartctl, it'll pass even if you have a bunch of reallocated sectors etc as well
[14:40] <hateball> but the above disk, it does not look healthy
[14:40] <mave_> exactly :D
[14:41] <BlackVenom> WTF the disc was only purchased Nov 2015
[14:41] <BlackVenom> It's a WD Red too
[14:42] <BlackVenom> Disk lol
[14:42] <hateball> Well usually things work until they stop working, unless they are DOA. That's how it goes :)
[14:43] <BlackVenom> I'll have to try and claim under warranty
[14:43] <BlackVenom> is it worth doing the long test? I only ran the short one!
[14:43] <BlackVenom> Or will it make no difference
[14:44] <mave_> it won't repair your disk
[14:44] <mave_> doe you experience problems?
[14:44] <mave_> *do
[14:44] <hateball> BlackVenom: A long test will possibly detect even more errors, it wont magically fix it
[14:44] <BlackVenom> I have just gone to transfer some files and got input/output errors
[14:45] <mave_> well, backup what you can
[14:45] <mave_> try smaller amounts of data to recover the most
[14:45] <BlackVenom> luckily its a media server so most of the content I can get back
[14:46] <mave_> but WD Red says nothing
[14:46] <BlackVenom> there is some photos and stuff on there too though :(
[14:46] <mave_> it's a HDD, they die :P
[14:47] <mave_> i can't say it enough, always backup your digital photo's
[14:47] <BlackVenom> I expect them to die at some point, not after 1yr and 9 days though
[14:47] <ikevin> it depend of what you do with your hdd
[14:47] <baizon> BlackVenom: which vendor? My HDD is 7 years old, and still running
[14:47] <BlackVenom> WD Red 4TB
[14:48] <hateball> All hardware fails sooner or later, prepare for it accordingly
[14:48] <exio4> BlackVenom: I use mirror RAID for random disk failures and offline backups for major failures
[14:49] <exio4> BlackVenom: if you have a lot of important data, IMO, that's the least you can do
[14:49] <BlackVenom> It's one of those things I always meant to get around to doing. Sticking the disk onto a RAID
[14:49] <BlackVenom> But never did
[14:50] <BlackVenom> Fingers crossed for the photo's directory
[14:50] <BlackVenom> Right folks thats for the help
[14:50] <BlackVenom> copying the photos to a different drive now
[14:51] <BlackVenom> Lets see whats happened when I get back fro the school run
[14:52] <ircusr> test
[14:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ircusr,   test succesful!
[14:54] <ircusr> Thank you very much :)
[15:01] <vrederv> Hey folks, how do I prevent systemd from killing a process after I log out?
[15:03] <ducasse> vrederv: set KillUserProcesses=no in /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[15:04] <vrederv> ducasse, is there a way to do this only for a single process?
[15:05] <ducasse> vrederv: not for a process, i think, but it seems possible to exclude/include certain users
[15:05] <liuxg> after some struggling of installing skype, now, clicking "system settings" does not work on my 16.04 ubuntu. Is there any way to reinstall it? thanks.
[15:05] <brainwash> vrederv: read man systemd-run
[15:06] <brainwash> vrederv: example 5
[15:08] <liuxg> clicking "system settings" does not open anything on my 16.04 Ubuntu
[15:08] <Afdla> Is it safe to have password in the login keyring of SeaHorse? It gets unlocked automatically after login, which sounds bit scary
[15:08] <brainwash> Afdla: but you are the one who unlocks it on login
[15:09] <brainwash> others can't
[15:09] <Afdla> Yea, I don't know the internals, so just thought
[15:09] <Afdla> So I suppose it's safe
[15:10] <ioria> liuxg, try    unity-control-center   from terminal
[15:10] <liuxg> ioria, thanks.. I just got it working by installing unity-control-center. many thanks
[15:10] <ioria> liuxg, no prob
[15:17] <Nani> I just installed dual boot ubuntu 16 and my windows network adapator not working
[15:17] <Nani> can any one help me
[15:20] <donofrio> anyone here using airwatch on ubuntu?
[15:25] <tetsuo> hello guys, anyone familiar with debian packaging? I need my debian/install file to avoid certain folder inside
[15:26] <tetsuo> like, I have this rule: app/* some/folder/myapp
[15:27] <tetsuo> but I want a folder inside app/thisfolder skipped
[15:39] <frankiee_> Hi! Trying to install xubuntu on a HP Pavillion dv1000 with an Intel Celeron 1.40GHz (480MB RAM) but got: WARNING! PAE disabled. Use the parameter 'forcepae' to enable at your own risk. This kernel requires the following features not enabled on the CPU: Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[15:40] <frankiee_> This happened on lubuntu too and I was forced to install v12 instead of v16. Is there a solution here?
[15:40] <negev> hi, we are getting a certificate error when trying to apt-get update, the error is related to https://download.dataloop.io/deb/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.  the certificate for that sites validates correclty in chrome web browser and seems ok on 16.04.1, but this 14.04.5 box doesn't like the cert
[15:40] <negev> the dataloop support channel said it's something to do with apt
[15:40] <negev> ca-certificates is installed and up to date
[15:40] <negev> any ideas?
[15:40] <negev> curl doesn't complain about the cert either
[15:41] <BlackVenom> For those who were here before, the photos directory has transfered without errors :-)
[15:43] <ikevin> negev, use http instead https :)
[15:43] <negev> that just redirects to http
[15:43] <negev> and isn't really a solution
[15:44] <ioria> frankiee_, if you do  do-release-upgrade  what you got ?
[15:44] <ikevin> negev, nop
[15:49] <jim__> 16.04 Am administrator- no password. Yet I can not authenticate a new installation as it keeps demanding a password.
[15:50] <jim__> I am not very proficient with Linux but have tried the commands without success having got root.Any advice
[15:53] <ikevin> start in recovery mode
[15:53] <jim__> did that and got to root
[15:54] <ikevin> if recovery is not working, you need to use a live session
[15:54] <jim__> then mount   -o rw,remount/
[15:56] <jim__> dont understand live session I did eveything that I had read online but it would not take
[15:57] <ikevin> let me pastebin the solution in live session
[15:57] <jim__> thanks iKevin but I am going to quit now as we do not seem to be getting anwhere
[16:01] <zeryx_> hey guys, my mouse recently stopped working on my laptop, when I run `xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer` I see my mouse entered twice
[16:01] <zeryx_> and when I disconnect my mouse it no longer shows up
[16:01] <zeryx_> is it possible that my mouse isn't working because ubuntu believes there are two mouse devices attached for some reason? And if so how do I disable one of them so it works?
[16:02] <zeryx_> https://gist.github.com/zeryx/3390c8a5273c43ea8d6c5b1c993e4da1
[16:02] <zeryx_> thats what my output looks like
[16:04] <Vysty> Hi everyone! How do I detect monitor settings for a 2nd monitor when the Display Setting isn't picking it up?
[16:04] <zeryx_> the trackpad words 100%, the mouse gets power (its got LEDs on it and it lights up)
[16:08] <textaberu> Guys, I have no clue why. But my Wifi stopped working and I dont see an option to turn on or off Wifi on Ubuntu 16.04. Googling did not really help me. Any inputs?
[16:10] <ikevin> textaberu, do you have an hardware wifi button or fn key?
[16:10] <textaberu> Tried switching that on and off, does not have any effect.
[16:11] <zeryx_> textaberu: I get that frequently coming back from a paused session, have you rebooted?
[16:11] <textaberu> I did "sudo service network-manager restart". Still does not work.
[16:11] <textaberu> Rebooted too!
[16:12] <textaberu> lshw -C network does not show my Wireless card :(
[16:12] <BlackVenom> Hey folks
[16:12] <ikevin> textaberu, it look like an hw problem
[16:13] <BlackVenom> I ran the smartctl command before and was told that the output shows my HDD is goosed.
[16:13] <BlackVenom> I ran the command via ssh from a mac
[16:14] <BlackVenom> I was told I could view the smartctl results via a GUI if I used the -X option with SSH but no idea how lol
[16:15] <ikevin> BlackVenom, do you have a webserver + php installed on the server?
[16:18] <BlackVenom> No but I could install one if it makes it easier
[16:18] <BlackVenom> Can't be that hard lol
[16:18] <zeryx_> anyone use xsetpointer  in -c /+c mode before?
[16:19] <zeryx_> I t hink that's the way to get my mouse working, not sure
[16:19] <BlackVenom> will that be easier ikevin?
[16:19] <ioria> !info gsmartcontrol
[16:19] <helloNL> Hello, would anyone help me with setting up ubuntu next to Windows on a RAID 0?
[16:28] <elias_a> My home server running Lubuntu 14.04. died. Now I swapped the HDD onto a different machine and am able to log in. The network settings however are screwed as the hardware is different. ifconfig shows only the local adapter. Network manager is not running. I can see the network adapters with lspci. How should I configure 1 NIC so that I can backup my data over the network?
[16:29] <helloNL> I am trying to install Ubuntu next to Windows on my RAID drive (probably FakeRAID) and http://kopy.io/WmSXzis my partition table that I get to see, how do I select the free space to install ubuntu on the RAID drive on the free space of 157GB?
[16:30] <helloNL> http://kopy.io/WmSXz is the url
[16:32] <helloNL> Problem is that it shows my partitions double so I am not really sure if I can just select that free space and press install
[16:33] <helloNL> And well is my /dev/sda the bootloader or do I need to select something else :/
[16:37] <ducasse> helloNL: the bootloader is your efi partition. btw, i would *seriously* suggest you reconsider using fakeraid and consider sw raid instead.
[16:38] <helloNL> Well I just installed Windows first as was being said, and this was how my laptop came
[16:39] <helloNL> And I just don't really understand this right in how to do it, I can't find any clear tutorials
[16:39] <helloNL> I just need the double OS to program on :/
[16:41] <ducasse> helloNL: i'm not familiar with dmraid etc, you might want to check this out - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_with_Fake_RAID
[16:42] <ducasse> helloNL: it's for arch, but should be helpful
[16:42] <helloNL> I'll check it
[16:42] <helloNL> I do have to say I am a newbie to Linux
[16:48] <DocPlatypus> okay, hopefully this is going to be the last major issue with my 16.04 upgrade. I am currently using sddm as my display manager because gdm3 refuses to start properly no matter what I do, and worse it confuses the video hardware pretty badly where other display managers often don't start after I try to run it. where is the best place to start looking for what's going wrong?
[16:49] <DocPlatypus> (the previous gdm ran fine when I was on 14.04)
[16:52] <usr13> DocPlatypus: What are you asking?  How to start sddm?
[16:52] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I can start sddm. but I want to get gdm3 working
[16:52] <DocPlatypus> every other display manager seems to work. lxdm, lightdm, sddm
[16:53] <DocPlatypus> but not gdm3
[16:54] <usr13> DocPlatypus: At the login screen, you should get option to set sddm as default login manager.
[16:54] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I have done this. but I want to figure out why gdm3 won't run because that's really the one I want to use.
[16:55] <usr13> Why?
[16:55] <ioria> DocPlatypus, do you use nvidia-prime ?
[16:55] <DocPlatypus> ioria: no, this laptop uses some Intel graphics chipset
[16:55] <usr13> DocPlatypus: If you uninstall sddm and install dgm3 it should set itself as the default login manager.
[16:56] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I've done that. and it just sits there and hangs, I never get a login screen.
[16:56] <usr13> DocPlatypus: But sddm is good, not sure why you don't want to use it.
[16:56] <usr13> DocPlatypus: then use dpkg-reconfigure
[16:56] <usr13> sddm is probably the most efficient one.
[16:56] <usr13> DocPlatypus: But what Desktop Environment are you using?
[16:56] <DocPlatypus> usr13: to install sddm I had to install basically all of KDE which I really never plan to use
[16:57] <usr13> DocPlatypus: Not sure about that, I don't really believe that KDE is necessary.  Again; What DE are you wanting to use?
[16:57] <DocPlatypus> ioria: it's the i915 driver if that helps. Toshiba Satellite L455
[16:58] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I use GNOME (specifically GNOME Classic)
[16:58] <ioria> DocPlatypus, nah, the bug it's only with  nvidia-prime
[16:58] <DocPlatypus> yeah I saw that one
[16:58] <usr13> What DE are you wanting to use?
[16:58] <DocPlatypus> usr13: GNOME
[16:58] <usr13> Oh ok.
[16:58] <usr13> (I had scrolled up ...)
[16:59] <ioria> DocPlatypus, the usual way it running through the logs /var/log ... etc
[16:59] <ioria> *'s
[16:59] <usr13> DocPlatypus: Maybe you should just uninstall sddm and the kde stuff you don't need and then dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[17:00] <usr13> DocPlatypus: But the basic kde stuff it isntalled as dependencies is probably not a problem.
[17:00] <ioria> DocPlatypus, ah, gnome classic ... so you don't have gnome-shell
[17:01] <usr13> DocPlatypus: Have you ever used xfce?
[17:02] <DocPlatypus> ioria: I do have gnome-shell
[17:02] <DocPlatypus> you're thinking of GNOME Flashback (which I finally dumped about a year ago)
[17:02] <ioria> DocPlatypus, ok
[17:02] <DocPlatypus> usr13: not on purpose
[17:02] <usr13> DocPlatypus: Why not?
[17:02] <usr13> I personally think xfce is best.
[17:02] <DocPlatypus> usr13: no reason to switch. once upon a time, I used KDE 3 but this was years ago when I was just transitioning from Windows 98
[17:02] <usr13> DocPlatypus: What about MATE?
[17:03] <DocPlatypus> usr13: not yet. I may try it out at some point
[17:03] <usr13> DocPlatypus: So you have never tried MATE?
[17:04] <mguentzel> +1 for xfce...very configurable and light.
[17:05] <usr13> DocPlatypus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152256/how-do-i-switch-from-lightdm-to-gdm
[17:06] <natten> okay so im dualbooting windows and ubuntu on my main machine. one hdd with windows and another with ubuntu+grub. Is there any reason why i shouldn't boot the ubuntu partition from vmware in windows?
[17:06] <ioria> DocPlatypus, you can open a console, stop other dm, start gdm3 service and see if it says something useful
[17:06] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I know how to switch. the problem is it never gives me a login screen.
[17:06] <DocPlatypus> that tutorial dates from 12.04
[17:07] <usr13> DocPlatypus: Did you uninstall lightdm and sddm and dpkg-reconfigue gdm?
[17:07] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I've played uninstall/reinstall roulette a couple of times, yes
[17:08] <usr13> natten: Yes
[17:08] <usr13> DocPlatypus: That is not what I said.
[17:08] <natten> usr13: okay, what am i risking?
[17:09] <usr13> You are not risking anything, but VM is not the same as dual boot.
[17:09] <DocPlatypus> usr13: I've done all that uninstalling and reinstalling, yes
[17:09] <DocPlatypus> same result
[17:10] <usr13> DocPlatypus: systemctl stop lightdm
[17:10] <usr13> DocPlatypus: systemctl start gdm
[17:10] <DocPlatypus> okay, will try that. brb
[17:11] <helloNL> ducasse: That tutorial doesnt help me :/
[17:11] <usr13> DocPlatypus:  systemctl status gdm
[17:13] <natten> usr13: i am able to boot it. just wondering if there is any reason why i shouldn't
[17:14] <doxter> Bonjour
[17:14] <crayon> kunwon1,
[17:15] <ouroumov_> !fr doxter
[17:15] <ouroumov_> !fr | doxter
[17:15] <helloNL> I got http://kopy.io/WmSXz as partition table atm, its a Intel RAID 0 with Windows installed on it already. What Partitions do I need to make and what do I need to select as Device for boot loader installation. Also it couldnt find the Windows installation
[17:15] <doxter> thanks i understant  :)
[17:17] <slyrobot> tomreyn, Hi this is guest16051.
[17:17] <slyrobot> The issue is resolved I thought I should let you know.
[17:18] <ducasse> helloNL: you see the one labeled as 'efi' under 'type'? that's where you install the bootloader. it looks like you should make a new partition in the free space, but i'm not sure. as i said, fakeraid is a *bad* idea.
[17:18] <helloNL> Well is Intel RAID 0 a fakeRAID?
[17:18] <helloNL> Because I am not sure
[17:19] <ducasse> helloNL: yep.
[17:19] <tomreyn> slyrobot: can you remind me what the issue was, and how you resolved it?
[17:19] <slyrobot> The issue was that /var/log was consuming 251 GB.
[17:20] <glitchd> #chromium
[17:20] <tomreyn> slyrobot: oh right i remember, the kernel log spill about low memory corruption, probably triggered by hibernation. how did you resolve it?
[17:20] <slyrobot> I checked the logs and seems the problem was with the Intel Integrated Graphics.
[17:21] <tomreyn> slyrobot: what did you find on the logs that made you think so?
[17:21] <tomreyn> since there was no indication of the intel graphics causing issues on the short peipce of logs i got to see.
[17:22] <tomreyn> *piece
[17:22] <glitchd> starting today im not able to view images on craigslist, can anyone help me figure out why? chromium browser.
[17:22] <slyrobot> I found some devices like we do eth0. Though I forgot to note it down.
[17:22] <helloNL> ducasse I am gonna yolo it now :P. Reinstall is easy enough
[17:22] <tomreyn> glitchd: check whether those ar eon a webserver using a symantec ssl certificate
[17:23] <glitchd> tomreyn, how exactly do i do that?
[17:23] <tomreyn> slyrobot: and the low memory corruption messages are no longer in "dmesg| tail"?
[17:23] <slyrobot> The problem was that it was trying to switch to Intel from NVIDIA as the battery was low. But it then started flooding the kernel logs specifically kernlog.1
[17:23] <slyrobot> Yes. I manually cleared all the logs.
[17:23] <tomreyn> glitchd: hmm, web developer console i guess, network tab. but this is not super easy, i admit
[17:24] <glitchd> tomreyn, images are showing in other browsers, and it was working yesterday in chromium, this just started today
[17:24] <tomreyn> slyrobot: oh okay, well then i assumer they will just grow again
[17:24] <ducasse> helloNL: well, good luck then :)
[17:24] <slyrobot> And I tried hibernation and the logs are almost empty
[17:24] <tomreyn> glitchd: can you provide an example web page where you see it?
[17:24] <tomreyn> like, a url
[17:25] <glitchd> any craigslist webpage
[17:25] <slyrobot> Negative. I have been using for almost 12 hrs and I have been constantly checking the logs. Though one thing here to note here is that I have disabled my Intel graphics.
[17:25] <slyrobot> Do you wish to see the logs ??
[17:25] <tomreyn> very well then
[17:25] <tomreyn> no no
[17:25] <glitchd> tomreyn, it just shows a box where the picture would be with a small x
[17:25] <helloNL> I'll just have to find out now how to create a Windows entry for grub but that should be too hard I hope :P
[17:26] <helloNL> shouldn't *
[17:26] <glitchd> tomreyn, http://corpuschristi.craigslist.org/cto/5877513891.html
[17:26] <glitchd> tomreyn, it wont show the picture, as i stated
[17:26] <tomreyn> i'll respond later, sorry
[17:27] <helloNL> Does anyone know what keyboard the US international keyboard used in the Netherlands is in Ubuntu. English(US) - English (US - International with dead keys) doesnt give the same behaviour as in Windows
[17:29] <helloNL> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35778/which-keyboard-setting-corresponds-to-united-states-international-in-windows here they give 2 different answers :/
[17:30] <slyrobot> tomreyn, here are the new logs which has been under constant observation for the last 12 hrs or so.
[17:30] <slyrobot> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23481466/
[17:31] <glitchd> tomreyn, welp, i figured it out after all, thx anyways bud
[17:33] <abraham> hi, i have installed ubuntu on my pc and fully updated it, how can i transfer all updated software to my laptop ubunut ?
[17:34] <helloNL> Is this normal behaviour when pressing ' en e I get é which is what I want, when pressing ' and t I get nothing as it ignores. I want to make it type 't like Windows does
[17:35] <softcoder> hi i've struggled in 16.04 with dual monitors nvidia card using properietary driver (latest from their site)
[17:35] <softcoder> when i KVM between computers after a while (say 30 mins or so) the monitor i share between two systems loses itself in ubuntu
[17:36] <softcoder> and i must load the nvidia settings to re-detect that mionitor and redo iuts settings
[17:36] <softcoder> any ideas how to fix this?
[17:36] <softcoder> i  googled and tried a numer of thigns but none work
[17:37] <softcoder> like:  xset -dpms s off s noblank s 0 0 s noexpose
[17:37] <softcoder> or: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 0
[17:37] <softcoder> but regardless after some period of time the shared monitor is lost to ubuntu (liek it does not exist)
[17:38] <softcoder> i turned off screen saver so i dont think its power settintgs
[17:41] <SipriusPT> hello guys
[17:41] <SipriusPT> anyone here knows a good tutorial or doc on how to set pgina to able outlook in windows to connect to a open directory?
[17:41] <SipriusPT> or if anyone here have already made this here
[17:41] <brainwash> softcoder: did you measure the exact time?
[17:43] <brainwash> softcoder: 30 mins would be long while
[17:47] <helloNL> ducasse: I installed Ubuntu in that free space of the FakeRAID, and now I do have Ubuntu
[17:47] <helloNL> I just lost Windows :/
[17:49] <softcoder> no i dont know exact time
[17:50] <softcoder> this issue existed in the past in older ubus
[17:50] <softcoder> i think disabling screen saver and turning off blan kmonitor had fixed it before
[17:50] <softcoder> in 16.04 no such luck
[17:50] <ducasse> helloNL: sorry, i just know fakeraid is usually not worth the hassle, so i've never played with it
[17:52] <tomreyn> slyrobot: 174 MB kern.log is still indication of a problem. and it will still be growing
[17:52] <b3nszy> hello
[17:52] <b3nszy> Im new to ubuntu
[17:52] <b3nszy> I have this robotic software im trying to install
[17:52] <glitchd> welcome
[17:52] <b3nszy> I Have the installer BUT
[17:52] <tomreyn> glitchd: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=664177
[17:52] <b3nszy> it wont let me run it
[17:52] <b3nszy> it says I need to run it as ADMIN
[17:52] <b3nszy> idk how to do that
[17:52] <glitchd> tomreyn, oh,i figured it out
[17:52] <Southern_Gentlem> sudo
[17:53] <glitchd> b3nszy, with sudo
[17:53] <b3nszy> sudo what?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> b3nszy  don't hit enter so often ... use sudo
[17:53] <OerHeks> b3nszy, plese don't use enter as a punctuation
[17:53] <b3nszy> Sorry.
[17:53] <b3nszy> file:///home/b3nszy/Downloads/choregraphe-suite-2.1.4.13-linux64-setup.run
[17:53] <b3nszy> This is the name of the installer
[17:53] <b3nszy> What do I do with it?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> b3nszy  depends on the command you have to use to install/run the program ... is there no README file?
[17:54] <Southern_Gentlem> cd /home/b3nszyDownloads/
[17:54] <glitchd> b3nszy, sudo ./choregraphe-suite-2.1.4.13-linux64-setup.run
[17:54] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd,  need to be sure its marked as executable
[17:54] <glitchd> b3nszy, thats the command you usd
[17:54] <glitchd> rightright
[17:55] <glitchd> sudo chmod +x chor...
[17:55] <tomreyn> no need to sudo
[17:55] <Southern_Gentlem> sudo chmod +x choregraphe-suite-2.1.4.13-linux64-setup.run
 This is the name of the installer
[17:55] <tomreyn> in fact, better dont sudo
[17:55] <b3nszy> THanks
[17:55] <b3nszy> :)
[17:55] <glitchd> tomreyn, why not use sudo?
[17:56] <tomreyn> because it provides this binary blob with access to the entire system, which it most likely does not need
[17:56] <glitchd> tomreyn, oh,makes sense thx for the correction
[17:56] <tomreyn> operate by least privilege
[17:56] <glitchd> thank you
[17:56] <softcoder> tomreyn, can fix my issue maybe :)
[17:57] <tomreyn> welcome
[17:57] <tomreyn> hey softcoder :)
[17:57] <tomreyn> i'm really not into nvidia, especially not into their binary drivers.
[17:57] <tomreyn> (as you might know ;) )
[17:57] <softcoder> dual monitors KVM, after said period of time on the windows side, ubu loses the shared monitor and thinks theres only 1 monitor
[17:57] <softcoder> i dont beleive its related to nvidia
[17:58] <softcoder> i beleive ubu is doing some monitor detection stuff
[17:58] <slyrobot> tomreyn, Okay. I will monitor them closely for a week and will then give you a siterep. Sounds good ??
[17:58] <glitchd> maybe something to do with power options?
[17:58] <softcoder> power save or something which i cannot turn off easily
[17:58] <softcoder> yes but which
[17:58] <lakitu> hey - need some help: i bought & installed OSDisc.com's Ubuntu 16.04 Software Repository - but i keep getting apt-get update errors, & it doesn't recognize any of the packages. i'm wondering if anyone can walk me thru fixing it, as its for my 'big' computer
[17:58] <softcoder> i truined off screen saver etc
[17:58] <slyrobot> *sitrep tomreyn
[17:59] <softcoder> under brightness and lock turn off screen never and lock off
[17:59] <tomreyn> softcoder: hmm i can probably not help. if the system actually looses the other monitor it does sem to point to a driver issue - to me.
[17:59] <glitchd> softcoder, open power options and check in the display tab for any options relating to it
[18:00] <lakitu> re the unworking repository - here were some select apt-get update errors i noticed right away: http://pastebin.ca/3739067
[18:00] <glitchd> softcoder, what do you mean exactly by "it loses the moitor"?
[18:00] <softcoder> ubuntu in display minotrs shows only 1 moinitor
[18:00] <cluelessperson> hastebin.com/cekohigina
[18:00] <cluelessperson> I'm having trouble with openvpn
[18:01] <tomreyn> slyrobot: if you like, zip or gzip or 7z your /var/log/kern.log and upload it somewhere, then i can take a quick look at it.
[18:01] <cluelessperson> the conf file runs fine manually
[18:01] <softcoder> in power settings suspend is set to dont susp[end
[18:01] <softcoder> thats the only options that mean anything
[18:01] <tomreyn> slyrobot: have you since done a full reboot? have you used hibernation / suspend to ram / disk again?
[18:01] <slyrobot> I can give it to you tomorrow. Sounds good ?
[18:02] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i probably wont be here then. but surely someone else will be
[18:02] <slyrobot> Since then I have rebooted twice and did a suspend once
[18:02] <tomreyn> slyrobot: which one was last, full reboot or suspend?
[18:02] <slyrobot> Alright I am uploading it.
[18:03] <tomreyn> slyrobot: be sure to compress it first, this will queeze it remarkably, since it's all text.
[18:03] <slyrobot> This sessions is obtained after a suspend
[18:03] <tomreyn> *squeeze
[18:03] <slyrobot> Okay.
[18:04] <glitchd> softcoder, is the monitor turning off or just blanking the display?
[18:04] <helloNL> I installed the bootloader on the partition that noted EFI, was this bad? As it can't find Windows
[18:04] <glitchd> softcoder, and are both monitors being used the same model monitor?
[18:05] <softcoder> they are not the same model
[18:05] <softcoder> and ubuntu thinks the shared moinitor is turned off
[18:05] <ducasse> helloNL: no, that's where it should be. if it can't find windows i'm guessing you overwrote a partition it needs.
[18:05] <softcoder> it kindof is
[18:06] <softcoder> as its not used because kvm uses it in another pc
[18:06] <helloNL> Haven't deleted any partitions ducasse
[18:06] <lakitu> re 'the unworking repository' - here's the full sudo apt-get update i just got off it & put up here: http://pastebin.ca/3739234
[18:06] <helloNL> Only thing I did was saying the bootloader should be placed on the EFI drive
[18:06] <helloNL> But well the install couldn't find Windows Either
[18:07] <glitchd> helloNL, is all this on the same hard drive, or multiple hard drives?
[18:07] <helloNL> I installed Ubuntu and Windows 10 on the same Intel RAID 0
[18:08] <tomreyn> softcoder: you could compare the "xrandr" outputs between when both monitros are connected and when one is missing. this *might* give a hint on what's wrong. i'd also look into nvidia driver options (to be specified in /etc/modprobe or at boot time, so configured in /etc/default/grub* on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line
[18:08] <helloNL> And now I am trying to add Windows back to the GRUB Bootloader :/
[18:09] <helloNL> http://superuser.com/a/637035 I see this but I don't know how to apply this to myself :/
[18:09] <slyrobot> tomreyn, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3qlk-0wqg9SVkpKMnVsajVRUkU/view?usp=sharing
[18:09] <glitchd> helloNL, well i just installed ubuntu on one of my hp laptops, and i know that i had to change to hard drive to csm from uefi and when i did that it would not boot windows 10 anymore, in fact that partition could not even be seen.
[18:09] <slyrobot> tomreyn, See if this helps. Tell me when you have the file.
[18:10] <helloNL> glitchd: I am still in normal UEFI mode
[18:10] <tomreyn> slyrobot: download complete
[18:10] <slyrobot> tomreyn, See if you can open it.
[18:10] <glitchd> helloNL, can you see the windows partition from ubuntu?
[18:10] <helloNL> Yes I can
[18:10] <glitchd> can you browse it?
[18:10] <helloNL> And I also see the normal disks xD
[18:10] <helloNL> Yes
[18:10] <glitchd> then try sudo update-grub
[18:11] <helloNL> Did not work
[18:11] <glitchd> error?
[18:11] <helloNL> No errors
[18:11] <glitchd> helloNL, then what happened when you used sudo update-grub?
[18:12] <helloNL> Give me a little moment I have to type everything over :P
[18:12] <glitchd> copy paste
[18:12] <helloNL> Different pc
[18:12] <glitchd> unless its like a screens worth of data
[18:12] <glitchd> ohh
[18:12] <helloNL> http://kopy.io/HGOCv
[18:14] <helloNL> glitchd: http://imgur.com/a/53G9Y
[18:14] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i can. and it's still full of the memory corruption records, which it should not be. now the question is whether those also occur if you last rebooted properly, not suspended. which we won't know unless oyu reboot again. when you run "dmesg -T | tail" now, do you see nothing but "Corrupted low memory" records, and are those timestamps current?
[18:15] <slyrobot> tomreyn, I haven't cleared those logs.
[18:15] <glitchd> helloNL, does this machine have windows 10?
[18:16] <helloNL> Yes
[18:16] <tomreyn> slyrobot: which ones? you mean dmesg? that's right from the running kernel, not a log file.
[18:16] <glitchd> you might have secure boot disabled, which would make it seem like windows isnt even there anymore
[18:16] <slyrobot> tomreyn, I just cleared syslog.1 and kernlog.1
[18:16] <glitchd> helloNL, ^^
[18:16] <helloNL> It's enabled glitchd
[18:16] <helloNL> At least last time I checked in the BIOS
[18:17] <glitchd> try lsblk
[18:17] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i'm aware. and my question is still relevant, to understand whether this is an ongoing problem.
[18:17] <glitchd> see if it lists the windows partition
[18:17] <slyrobot> I was able to retrieve about 251 GB by clearing those. tomreyn
[18:17] <helloNL> Secure boot control is enabled and secure boot too, Secure boot mode is standard glitchd
[18:17] <tomreyn> slyrobot: yes, that's good, i know.
[18:18] <slyrobot> I see. What do you want to know ?
[18:18] <glitchd> helloNL, forgive this question, but, are you sure u didnt install over, or erase windows when you install linux?
[18:19] <helloNL> I had 150gb left on the disk so I only added partitions glitchd
[18:19] <helloNL> isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p1 to 6 are there with windows it were only 4
[18:19] <helloNL> p2 is my efi drive which now is a grub instead of Windows
[18:21] <glitchd> helloNL, you could try installing boot-repair to fix the problem
[18:21] <glitchd> helloNL, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[18:22] <nicomachus> uhhh... shouldn't need a PPA for boot-repair
[18:22] <nicomachus> it's preinstalled.
[18:22] <nicomachus> or should be.
[18:22] <glitchd> helloNL, then, just sudo boot-repair to launch it
[18:23] <glitchd> nicomachus, i was assuming it wasnt installed
[18:23] <nicomachus> if he's on Ubuntu, it's installed.
[18:23] <OerHeks> nicomachus, it is available from ppa only, iirc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:23] <helloNL> One problem, apt-get update tells me it's not signed glitchd
[18:23] <tomreyn> slyrobot: there's a bios update available for your system: v1.2.0, yours is v1.1.8: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=MR2R8&fileId=3578822587&osCode=WT64A&productCode=inspiron-15-7559-laptop&languageCode=en&categoryId=BI
[18:23] <glitchd> im on 16.04.1 and its not installed
[18:24] <lakitu> anyone help with getting my huge offline repositories working?
[18:24] <lakitu> like i was saying, getting apt-get update errors.
[18:24] <helloNL> are the dutch archives down? all are telling me that it failed to connect
[18:24] <slyrobot> tomreyn, So you are suggesting a BIOS update ??
[18:24] <glitchd> helloNL, did you run the first command i gave?
[18:24] <helloNL> Yes
[18:25] <helloNL> sudo apt-get install boot-repair now right?
[18:25] <glitchd> then run this one now, sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[18:25] <glitchd> yes
[18:25] <nicomachus> lakitu: can you paste the output of your apt update?
[18:25] <lakitu> hey nicomachus - yes: http://pastebin.ca/3739234
[18:25] <helloNL> I have held broken packages o.o
[18:25] <helloNL> I just finished installing the iso
[18:25] <lakitu> might wanna ctrl+f for error/err/etc
[18:25] <helloNL> wtf
[18:25] <tomreyn> slyrobot: yes, why not, it's cleary something to do with suspend not working properly, which is a very low level functionality between bios ( or UEFI in your case) and OS (ubuntu in your case). the (as always minimalistic) changelog may suggest that it solves this issue.
[18:25] <lakitu> nicomachus ^
[18:25] <glitchd> helloNL, more errors?
[18:27] <slyrobot> tomreyn, Yes but there is a problem I think. The support is for Windows 10 and it will not run in Linux, What do you think ?
[18:27] <helloNL> http://kopy.io/wbgkj glitchd
[18:27] <glitchd> helloNL, run sudo apt-get install -f
[18:28] <helloNL> 0 upgraded installed or removed, 76 not upgraded
[18:29] <lakitu> nicomachus: this is for a main computer i use, would really like to get it squared away
[18:29] <nicomachus> lakitu: what does your sources.list look like?
[18:29] <helloNL> Also the dutch nl.archive.ubuntucom seems to not resolve. This might be an issue?
[18:29] <lakitu> nicomachus: hang on
[18:29] <glitchd> helloNL, im sorry are you on 16.10?
[18:29] <tomreyn> slyrobot: you can run the firmware update from a freedos live boot.
[18:29] <nicomachus>  lakitu it looks like you're updating from a USB and not from online repositories.
[18:30] <helloNL> ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64 glitchd
[18:30] <lakitu> nicomachus: yes, that is what i'm trying to do. offline repo's
[18:30] <tomreyn> slyrobot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS
[18:30] <slyrobot> tomreyn, How do you suggest I do that ??
[18:30] <slyrobot> Okay.
[18:30] <nicomachus> lakitu: ok, and did you check those file locations that it says don't exist?
[18:31] <lakitu> nicomachus: triple checked but we can check again
[18:31] <lakitu> uploading the sources.list
[18:33] <bruno_> Hello, I need some help to make the backlight screen intensities work.
[18:33] <lakitu> nicomachus: i used / modeled it after the osdisc.com's sources.list it generated - or at least the lines it added - which is who i bought the repo from: http://pastebin.ca/3739255
[18:33] <glitchd> helloNL, sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <helloNL> yh this time I did get normal response
[18:33] <lakitu> nicomachus: so you know.
[18:33] <helloNL> But when doing upgrade it all errors again
[18:34] <glitchd> helloNL, sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[18:34] <glitchd> helloNL, upgrade?
[18:34] <helloNL> Yh I thought i'll just update
[18:34] <lakitu> upgrade goes from like ubuntu 15 to 16, helloNL
[18:35] <gadget> lo there, anyone have issues with wifi not finding any ap's untill the machine is put into and out of suspend?
[18:35] <nicomachus> no it doesn't, lakitu. you're thinking of do-release-upgrade
[18:35] <lakitu> i think =/   i started -- oh
[18:35] <helloNL> sudo apt-get upgrade is to install updates of everything right?
[18:35] <lakitu> i started when you couldn't do upgrades reliably, so i never tried to upgrade the distro in-place, again
[18:35] <lakitu> i stand corrected. =D
[18:36] <helloNL> dist-upgrade is distro update I thought :/
[18:36] <nicomachus> helloNL: no, that's for kernel upgrade.
[18:36] <gadget> sorry to interrupt btw, but has anyone have issues with wifi not finding any ap's until the machine is put into and out of suspend?
[18:36] <nicomachus> or you can use apt instead of apt-get and do apt full-upgrade
[18:36] <helloNL> boot-repair is not authenticated glitchd should I just install?
[18:36] <nicomachus> !patience | gadget we saw you, but hold on a sec.
[18:36] <glitchd> yes
[18:37] <lakitu> so what does upgrade do?
[18:37] <gadget> ubottu: I meant to edit that, i didn't see i sent it already.
[18:37] <lakitu> apt-get upgrade
[18:37] <gadget> lol
[18:37] <nicomachus> lakitu: apt-get upgrade upgrades installed packages.
[18:37] <helloNL> It started scanning and now I get a pop up menu as in:  http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1335260967.png
[18:37] <lakitu> ok
[18:37] <glitchd> first option
[18:38] <glitchd> helloNL, ^^
[18:38] <lakitu> i'll worry about that another time, i guess . . .  or man it
[18:38] <helloNL> Please disable secureboot in the BIOS. Then try again. Do you want to continue?
[18:39] <helloNL> glitchd: ^^
[18:39] <lakitu> ah, (apt-get) update will sync the package list, upgrade will actually install the new versions
[18:39] <lakitu> new ones
[18:40] <lakitu> The More You Know *shooting star*
[18:40] <helloNL> I am also a noob lakitu, only thing I did was set up a server thanks to tutorials
[18:40] <nicomachus> lakitu: yep. but apt is the new apt-get
[18:40] <glitchd> helloNL, you cannot boot ubuntu with secure boot enabled, however you cannot boot windows with secure boot diabled
[18:40] <lakitu> ok
[18:40] <lakitu> (nicomachus)
[18:40] <helloNL> Well Secure boot is on and I am in ubuntu
[18:40] <helloNL> Also there was a news report that Ubuntu would now work with secure boot
[18:41] <BazookaTooth> canonical had a signature added to secureboot.
[18:41] <lakitu> i had a heckuva time getting my new pc to work with ubuntu - it turned out to be uefi
[18:41] <ducasse> helloNL glitchd secure boot has worked for a long time now
[18:41] <glitchd> ducasse, news to me..
[18:41] <ns_> ciao
[18:42] <lakitu> had to set bios into legacy (compatible) mode
[18:42] <lakitu> err the uefi, as it were
[18:42] <helloNL> ducasse: why does this boot-repair want me to disable secure boot
[18:42] <ducasse> glitchd: you need to disable it to use dkms drivers, though
[18:42] <lakitu> set the uefi
[18:42] <ahfsdsd> Hi.. I have a problem with Chromium under Ubuntu 16.04 + all other ppl with same OS. With firefox on the same computers it works. It started 2 days ago on all and is not related with update. The problem is with one page - www.seznam.cz
[18:42] <ducasse> helloNL: you need to disable it to use dkms drivers
[18:42] <ahfsdsd> There is some issue with certificate
[18:43] <glitchd> ducasse, arent dkms drivers related to the display?
[18:43] <lakitu> nicomachus: any ideas?
[18:43] <nicomachus> ahfsdsd: yea it's a known bug.
[18:43] <stan_man_can> So if I have a program I want to run in the background, always (start on boot, restart if it crashes) how do I go about that with systemd? Also,  how do I pipe the output (STDERR/STDOUT) to different log files?
[18:43] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd: "The server presented a certificate that was not publicly disclosed using the Certificate Transparency policy. This is a requirement for some certificates, to ensure that they are trustworthy and protect against attackers." <-- that is your problem. the problem is with their certificate and they need to fix it.
[18:43] <nicomachus> ahfsdsd: you'll have to use Chrome 54 to get around it.
[18:43] <lakitu> not to push (nicomachus)
[18:43] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd: that Firefox doesn't catch it, is actually a bug/security hole in Firefox.
[18:43] <ducasse> glitchd: not necessarily, no. vbox uses them, so does certain wifi chipsets.
[18:43] <glitchd> ducasse, mmk
[18:44] <helloNL> ducase glitchd https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BryeIwHw/
[18:44] <ahfsdsd> ahfdsd: hmm, thanks. When do you think it will be fixed in normal repos with Chromium?
[18:44] <helloNL> it wants me to do that now
[18:44] <ahfsdsd> DocPlatypus: ^^
[18:44] <nicomachus> lakitu: sorry, having trouble getting lynx to open atm
[18:44] <lakitu> ok
[18:44] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd: no idea
[18:44] <lakitu> sweet. i remember lynx, i think
[18:44] <lakitu> text browser or smth?
[18:44] <DocPlatypus> ahfsdsd:  you'll have to ask them when they plan to update their certificate.
[18:44] <nicomachus> ahfsdsd: yea, no idea. try asking the Chromium folks. I htink it's #chromium
[18:44] <glitchd> helloNL, whats that all about?
[18:45] <helloNL> boot-repair says to do that
[18:45] <glitchd> helloNL, oh
[18:45] <lakitu> looking up guitar tabs at the library with a text browser in the earliest days of the Net
[18:45] <helloNL> I don't know what that stuff is
[18:45] <glitchd> helloNL, do it
[18:45] <ahfsdsd> So where the problem actually is? I think that it is not Chromium, since it works with the same version on Debian
[18:45] <helloNL> So I am not going to do it untill someone verify's
[18:45] <DocPlatypus> lakitu: Lynx is still being developed, btw
[18:45] <lakitu> sweet
[18:45] <lakitu> gtk
[18:46] <nicomachus> lakitu: I'm on a VM tunnelled into my home PC, so opening a proper GUI browser would be tough/take forever. for pastebins, lynx USUALLY works fine. not sure why it won't open right now.
[18:46] <lakitu> want me to get it to you another way?
[18:47] <ducasse> helloNL: i can't comment on the two last lines, can you give me a couple of minutes to read a little?
[18:47] <helloNL> I kinda did already execute ducasse
[18:47] <lakitu> i was at thte point with this, i was going to redo the whole install in a vm, upload the .vmi to the owner of osdisc.   he hasn't responded if he's willing to
[18:47] <lakitu> the*
[18:47] <helloNL> Seems I have issues connecting to internet, losing connection all the time :/
[18:47] <ducasse> helloNL: ok, best of luck then :)
[18:47] <usr13> helloNL: Wifi?
[18:48] <helloNL> Yes usr13
[18:48] <usr13> helloNL: Is it due to weak signal?
[18:48] <ahfsdsd> Page www.seznam.cz is working with Chromium on Debian Stable (exactly same version), with Ubuntu 16.04 it does not work on all PCs. With Firefox it is working everywhere...
[18:48] <helloNL> Shouldn't be, normally no issues with WIFI in this room
[18:48] <tarjo> After the last kernel update I'm also loosing wireless in the amd 32bit laptop, but not in the amd64 laptop
[18:49] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[18:49] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[18:49] <glitchd> helloNL, what wifi card?
[18:49] <helloNL> glitchd: I can boot to Windows now, but the bootloader has a lot of crap in it
[18:49] <usr13> helloNL: All WiFi interfaces are not the same.  (Some get better signals and have more power output, some not so good.  There are a number of things that could be wrong, some of which are beyond the scope of this channel.
[18:50] <helloNL> Killer 1202-n
[18:50] <tarjo> glitchd, mine is Qualcomm Atheros AR928X
[18:50] <glitchd> tarjo, i was referring to helloNL ..
[18:50] <helloNL> usr13: Normally I am also in this room, I might be 2 meters from the connection point :P
[18:50] <lakitu> just want this os install to recognize repositories, so i can get on with everything.  ubuntu/etc normally work great - great enough, you know
[18:51] <tarjo> glitchd, ohh I am sorry, I spoke due to the same problem
[18:51] <glitchd> tarjo, no problem
[18:51] <helloNL> glitchd: Do you know how I can edit the bootloader menu? I wanna reduce it and rename stuff
[18:51] <lakitu> working at it a week.
[18:52] <glitchd> helloNL, look up grub-customizer
[18:52] <helloNL> Is that an application or something build in?
[18:52] <glitchd> app
[18:52] <glitchd> it gives you a gui to edit and customize grub
[18:52] <helloNL> Nice
[18:52] <helloNL> If that worked I can remove boot-repair right?
[18:53] <glitchd> helloNL, theoretically, yes, but you might as well leave it in case anything else happens and you need it again
[18:55] <glitchd> helloNL, are you able to boot back into windows now?
[18:58] <helloNL> Yh
[18:58] <glitchd> helloNL, yh?
[18:58] <helloNL> Yes i am
[18:58] <glitchd> ok
[18:58] <glitchd> any other problems then?
[18:59] <helloNL> I have 2 different scripts working to boot into Windows :/
[18:59] <helloNL> Now I am not sure which is right :/
[18:59] <glitchd> reboot and test
[18:59] <helloNL> Both work
[18:59] <helloNL> That's the problem
[18:59] <glitchd> then pic n choose which to disable
[19:00] <glitchd> if they both work then it shouldnt matter which u disable
[19:01] <helloNL> The first boots EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi the other boots EFI/Microsoft/bootmgfw.efi
[19:01] <teo_> if I install fluxbox on ubuntu everything seems to work fine except gtk3 theme/appearance. All gtk3 appearance looks like reset to default (aduita theme). Is there a way to set new themes? Do I need gtk2 functionality? Any help will be appreciated.
[19:01] <glitchd> like i said, if they both boot, then it shouldnt matter which u choose to disable
[19:02] <ducasse> teo_: try lxappearance
[19:02] <helloNL> glitchd: Well they could boot different which might disable some functions
[19:02] <glitchd> helloNL, then again, reboot and test.
[19:03] <ducasse> helloNL: the second of those is the standard windows bootloader, no idea about the first
[19:04] <glitchd> helloNL, ducasse By default, Boot Repair replaces both EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi and EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi with a copy of GRUB, renaming the original files so that they can be accessed or restored
[19:05] <glitchd> helloNL, ducasse  It also places a copy of GRUB as EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootx64.efi. Thus, after running Boot Repair, the number of copies of GRUB on the ESP quadrupled, from one to four! The reason for placing GRUB in these extra locations is to work around problems with a handful of buggy firmware implementations that ignore or forget their NVRAM entries. In fact, VirtualBox qualifies as one of these implementations, so if I'd run
[19:05] <glitchd> Boot Repair on the system before installing rEFInd, Boot Repair would have done the right thing.
[19:05] <stan_man_can> 0% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1560:8001::11)]
[19:06] <ahfsdsd> When Ubuntu will update Chromium????
[19:07] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: You've found the SSL certificate problem? :P
[19:08] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: It looks like the problem is in Chromium 53 after all.
[19:08] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: No it is not. It is in Symantec who broke the trust.
[19:09] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: ah and how to fix it?
[19:10] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: FYI: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/09/symantec-issues-rogue-ev-certificate-googlecom
[19:10] <rexwin_> sudo tar czf /root/backup_`date +%F`.tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /testdir/
[19:11] <rexwin_> the above command is running in crontab when added using crontab -e
[19:11] <rexwin_> not running*
[19:11] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: the problem I have occured just 2 days ago
[19:11] <EriC^> rexwin_: you can't use sudo in crontab
[19:11] <ahfsdsd> elias_a: on all PCs I know about with Ubuntu 16.04
[19:11] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: Symantec response to the situation: https://knowledge.symantec.com/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&id=ALERT2160
[19:11] <rexwin_> so how to add?
[19:12] <EriC^> rexwin_: sudo crontab -e
[19:12] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: Quite correct. So did it with me.
[19:12] <EriC^> rexwin_: and remove the sudo in the command
[19:12] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: The problem is caused by Symantec engineers fooling around.
[19:12] <rexwin_> ok got it
[19:13] <ahfsdsd> Thats not good
[19:13] <ahfsdsd> Thanks
[19:13] <ahfsdsd> OK, we have to wait for 54
[19:13] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: Therefore their certificates are not trusted.
[19:13] <elias_a> ahfsdsd: This will be fixed, of course.
[19:15] <rexwin_> EriC^, does /var/log/syslog make an entry during the backup?
[19:16] <EriC^> rexwin_: yeah
[19:18] <natten> anyone here knows how to boot a physical installation of ubuntu in a vm (vmware on windows)? It boots and everything seems fine, but once i try to login i go straight back to the loginscreen (ubuntu desktop with unity)
[19:18] <lakitu> nicomachus: not sure if you're still here - was grinding / making a shots of yerba mate, lost track of time
[19:18] <EriC^> natten: does the guest account work?
[19:19] <lakitu> making shots of yerba mate.* =/
[19:19] <natten> EriC^: nope, i've also tried to move/chmod the .Xauthority file
[19:23] <DocPlatypus> natten: hmm that's strange. any clues from the logs?
[19:24] <DocPlatypus> natten: can you still ssh into it and get in that way?
[19:25] <natten> DocPlatypus: i can get to tty with ctrl+alt+1-6 :)
[19:25] <DocPlatypus> natten: can you login that way? if so see what the logs say
[19:27] <rexwin_> 55 0 * * 3 tar czf /root/backup_`date +%F`.tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /testdir/
[19:27] <rexwin_> isnot running instead I get a mail saying /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[19:27] <natten> i can log in, which logs are you thinking about? the dmesg says nothing, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log is very hard to read
[19:30] <mmc_> hi
[19:30] <mmc_> what is your idea about kvm   ?    it is faster than VBOx and Xen and othe virtual machine on ubuntu  ?
[19:32] <mmc_> other question is that  i want to install kvm but  it want gcc 4.8   and my default gcc is 4.8.4    may it causes a problem on my system  ?
[19:35] <DocPlatypus> mmc_: later version of gcc shouldn't be an issue
[19:37] <mmc_> alright
[19:37] <mmc_> DocPlatypus : do u have any idea about Kvm vs VBox and Xen  ?
[19:38] <rexwin_> tar czf /root/backup_`date +%F`.tar.gz is not running in crontab. is there a way to remove these backticks and get date included in the filename
[19:38] <EriC^> rexwin_: try $() instead
[19:40] <rexwin_> can you format the line and let me know
[19:40] <stochastix> what is the most recent version of zfs  in the repos?
[19:40] <EriC^> rexwin_: tar ... backup_$(date +%F).tar.gz ...
[19:41] <natten> DocPlatypus: booting worked after removing nvidia drivers, now is the question. is there a way to disable nvidia drivers without deleting them everyime?
[19:46] <Tranquiliz3r> join #ubuntu-ir
[19:47] <nicomachus> lakitu: yea sorry I went to lunch
[19:48] <TeslaTaz> d
[19:49] <lakitu> nicomachus: np - i lost track of time making yerba mate shots.
[19:49] <ducasse> stochastix: 0.6.5.8 for yakkety
[19:49] <lakitu> nicomachus: get lynx up?
[19:49] <nicomachus> no I uninstalled it and reinstalled but lost your link.
[19:49] <lakitu> ok - here
[19:50] <lakitu> err
[19:50] <lakitu> http://pastebin.ca/3739255 <-- sources.list
[19:50] <lakitu> nicomachus: ^
[19:51] <lakitu> nicomachus http://pastebin.ca/3739232  sudo apt-get update output
[19:54] <nicomachus> lakitu: yea I'm not really sure man. This is a very weird setup. Why are you trying to update from a USB?
[19:55] <artaoss> anybody know if i'm configuring isolinux.cfg, for a clonezilla based live cd, and i wanna be able to have the boot process pull options from a txt file that i'll need to prepare seperatly & can't roll into the ISO?
[19:55] <lakitu> nicomachus: i am setting up a offline comp - bought the offline repository from OSDisc.com, had another distro sete up like this
[19:56] <artaoss> if i can just put a line in like  ocs_prerun="mount blah /mnt" then ocs_live_run=/mnt/comandfile
[19:56] <stochastix> ducasse: thanks.
[19:59] <konrados> Morning!
[20:00] <stochastix> is 16.10  yakety?
[20:00] <Jonsa> Any networking wizards here? Need some help with bonding mode4 and one connection that drops everything!
[20:01] <Jonsa> http://pastebin.com/CSeYWTic http://pastebin.com/2HcVgE3Z http://pastebin.com/sVH9e1Wf
[20:02] <stochastix> Ok, I see that it is.
[20:04] <yomm> Hi can someone point me in the right direction on how I can 'fix' input devices (eg. /dev/input/hiddev0 and 1) to 'physical devices' so they keep the same order after reboot ?
[20:04] <lakitu> there's some hangup - some stray line, that is making it not recognize the repository (or repositories) when i try to do sudo apt-get install or sudo apt-cache policy
[20:04] <lakitu> nicomachus ^
[20:05] <lakitu> i'm trying to track it down
[20:05] <lakitu> the last one from them worked
[20:05] <lakitu> just switching back to Ubuntu from Mint - prefer Ubuntu
[20:05] <lakitu> for reasons i won't get into now
[20:12] <lakitu> sweet. the owner of osdisc.com says he'll look at a virtual machine recreation of the problem.  it should be sushi after that
[20:12] <Comudex> Hey guys i installed the opensc package however i do not see  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opensc-pkcs11.so in its proper place?
[20:13] <Seveas> that'll be in the relevand -dev package
[20:18] <raub> What can I use to connect (and manage) a xenserver (not just xen)? virt-manager does not seem to want to
[20:21] <lakitu> i've got a kubuntu disc here, anyone know how to integrity-check? using the disc?
[20:21] <nicomachus> !md5sum | lakitu
[20:21] <lakitu> it doesn't supply the option that i see, but maybe if i hold shift or somehting like that
[20:21] <lakitu> alright - just wondered if it had th eoption built in - they always used to
[20:21] <lakitu> maybe not kubuntu's installer, tho
[20:21] <theShirbiny> wow, people are still using md5?
[20:22] <lakitu> theShirbiny: what outdoes it?
[20:23] <OerHeks> or check sha256sum
[20:23] <theShirbiny> lakitu, SHA256
[20:23] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[20:24] <lakitu> it'd be nice to have a check when i boot up, in a little non-main menu, but not that big of a deal
[20:24] <ioria> lakitu, if the disk is already burned, you can't check the iso, you can only check the disk
[20:25] <ctjctj> Hello.  I have a sed question.  I have a string that looks like 'x y z "a b c d" ###'  I want to replace all the space within the quotes with + signs.  I can't find anything in regex that limit the area of the string to be processed.  To replace all it would be simple s/ /+/g  Any clues? My google foo has failed me.
[20:27] <jatt> ctjctj: echo 'x y z "a b c d" ###' | sed 's/[[:space:]]/\+/g'
[20:27] <raub> What is the screen capture thingie that comes in the normal ubuntu desktop install?
[20:27] <ctjctj> jatt, that replaces them all in the string.  I want to restrict the changes to just the substring within the double quotes.
[20:28] <ctjctj> jatt, I don't know if you need the \ on the replacement side of the substitution.
[20:29] <rexwin_> I can't append the date to tar command of Downloads/backup_$(date+%F).tar.gz in the cron job
[20:31] <genii> rexwin_: Put a space before the +
[20:31] <rexwin_> it is not worning with space too
[20:31] <rexwin_> working
[20:32] <ctjctj> genii, isn't the space *before* the +  $(date +%F)
[20:33] <ctjctj> echo $(date +%F)
[20:33] <ctjctj> 2016-11-15
[20:33] <rexwin_> 10 2 * * 3 tar czf /home/raju/Downloads/backup_$(date +%F).tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /testdir/
[20:34] <rexwin_> doesnot work in cron
[20:34] <genii> rexwin_: Put the commands in an executable text file then call that from the cron
[20:34] <ctjctj> rexwin_, break it down and test with a simple echo.  Also do it as genii says.  That way you can see what is happening.
[20:37] <Sircle> sudo service squid start/stop/restart/status. No errors in status or access.logs. How to see its complete startup log?
[20:39] <genii> rexwin_: Also the % might be whats causing you problems there
[20:42] <rexwin_> I put in a executable file and called it through cron and still the issue persists
[20:42] <rexwin_> but running ./testing.sh is fine
[20:43] <genii> rexwin_: Try escaping the % with \% instead
[20:44] <antoon> Hi guys. I'm trying to share internet from wifi to wired, but when I changed my wired to "Share to other computers" and plug in an ethernet cable, it disconnects my wifi. How can I stop it from doing that?
[20:53] <arafat> hi
[20:54] <arafat> is there anyone
[20:54] <arafat> ?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> !ask | arafat
[20:56] <arafat> i installed ubuntu server and i want to add domain to my server. how can i do that ?
[20:57] <terrible> is there a way to speed up the boot of firefox when i launch it cause it take to long im using ubuntu 16 xenial
[20:57] <arkaoss82> anyone here modify live cd's for fun & lols?
[20:57] <Southern_Gentlem> arafat read the documention for the type of service you are wanting to run
[20:58] <linelevel> Hello. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04. Every time I connect to any wifi network, if asks for the password, even though I selected "remember for all users" the last time. When I look in the list of networks, I see a new copy of the network for every time I connect. For example: "My SSID", "My SSID 1", "My SSID 2", etc.
[20:58] <Southern_Gentlem> arkaoss82, in the fedora world yes
[20:58] <linelevel> ^ Does anyone have any suggestions for how to correct this problem?
[20:59] <arafat> Southern_Gentlem, i want this server for publicly access and i got public ip address
[21:00] <Southern_Gentlem> arafat, you have not given enough information to continue
[21:00] <Southern_Gentlem> arafat,  what services will the server be running
[21:06] <walnutbeard> hi
[21:06] <walnutbeard> i just fckin love u guys what a mind blowin system after windows virus :D
[21:06] <energizer2> How can I switch from using my laptop's internal wifi to using the usb adapter?
[21:07] <wlp1s1> energizer2: click the networking button in the tray, next to the clock
[21:07] <walnutbeard> any1 playin hearthstone or anyother blizzard games?
[21:07] <wlp1s1> you should be able to see the other adapter
[21:10] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, if those are windows games, check out #winehq
[21:10] <OerHeks> !wine
[21:10] <arkaoss82> southern_gentlem: no one messes with initrd.img's any more huh?
[21:10] <walnutbeard> yeah sadly windows games usin battlenet application ok searchin web ty
[21:11] <terrible> is there a way to speed up the boot of firefox when i launch it cause it take to long im using ubuntu 16 xenial
[21:11] <walnutbeard> try chromium browser its super fast
[21:12] <OerHeks> terrible, delete the firefox config files and restart?
[21:13] <OerHeks> it is an hidden folder ( ctrl +H )  ~/.mozilla.
[21:16] <ducasse> terrible: or try installing preload
[21:24] <terrible_> OerHeks: i didnt delete any config file
[21:25] <walnutbeard> which one has better performance wine or playonlinux ?
[21:25] <walnutbeard> gonna install hearthstone and autocad
[21:25] <brainwash> walnutbeard: it's both wine under the hood
[21:25] <walnutbeard> ok wine it is then ty
[21:26] <brainwash> walnutbeard: playonlinux makes it easier to install and use different wine versions
[21:26] <OerHeks> POL is just a bunch of scripts to install win apps/games
[21:26] <brainwash> not just scripts
[21:26] <OerHeks> oke, and an option to get a different wine version
[21:26] <brainwash> it makes managing wine easier
[21:27] <walnutbeard> so u suggestion pol?
[21:27] <brainwash> I guess
[21:28] <brainwash> especially if you don't want to mess around in the terminal
[21:28] <brainwash> ideally, test both ways
[21:30] <ollivera> does Rust have a Stream type? I would like to read a tuple from a file and add to a stream?
[21:30] <energizer2> wlp1s1: i don't see any indication of usb in the wifi menu
[21:30] <walnutbeard> ok ty have a nice night
[21:32] <brainwash> ollivera: wrong channel
[21:32] <wlp1s1> energizer2: it probably isn't recognized
[21:33] <wlp1s1> energizer2: try running lsusb and see if you can locate your adapter
[21:33] <energizer2> wlp1s1: i dont see it there
[21:33] <wlp1s1> energizer2: are you sure it's plugged in?
[21:34] <abraham> hello, i installed spotify and now i am not able to uninstall it. i installed it through softwares app, i tried to remove it from softwares app it get removed from there but is still in main apps' menu, and it again appear in softwares too. i tried to do sudo apt-get remove spotify, sudo apt-get purge spotify but it says Unable to locate package spotify
[21:34] <wlp1s1> energizer2: try unplugging and plugging in your adapter, then run dmesg to see if it was recognized
[21:35] <walnutbeard> guys i am stuck on playonlinux page which version should i install ? i am usin Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS x64 desktop
[21:35] <OerHeks> abraham, how did you install spotify ? followed any howto ?
[21:35] <walnutbeard> For the Trusty version or  Saucy version or Precise version?
[21:35] <tex> I have a NAT router. Works fine for everything except for UDP multicast. UDP packets make it to the router, but don't leave. Am I missing something?
[21:35] <abraham> OerHeks, yes i think, it was 10 things to do after installing ubuntu
[21:36] <OerHeks> abraham, if you followed this, https://www.spotify.com/nl/download/linux/ , remove spotify-client
[21:36] <energizer2> wlp1s1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23482575/ I don't really know what i'm looking at in dmesg, but i dont think it changed when i replugged it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23482576/
[21:36] <walnutbeard> abraham also try this sudo apt-get update
[21:37] <brainwash> walnutbeard: you install it from the ubuntu repos
[21:37] <walnutbeard>  u mean software manager?
[21:37] <brainwash> walnutbeard: yes
[21:37] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, for 16.04, use the noobslab ppa http://askubuntu.com/questions/770687/how-to-install-playonlinux-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:37] <brainwash> walnutbeard: or sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[21:37] <walnutbeard> but when i search playonlinux nothin appears
[21:38] <abraham> OerHeks, that is a link to install it, i installed spotify like that
[21:38] <walnutbeard> ok thanks
[21:39] <wlp1s1> energizer2: i don't really know, you should probably ask in ##linux
[21:40] <wlp1s1> it has more to do with the kernel than ubuntu itself
[21:40] <abraham> walnutbeard, i did sudo apt-get update, and then sudo apt-get remove spotify, but still it says , E: Unable to locate package spotify
[21:40] <walnutbeard> well abraham i am newbie too but when i get error it works sometimes :/
[21:40] <OerHeks> abraham, read again > spotify-client
[21:41] <walnutbeard> that page says noobslab.com for 16.04 version. i am usin 16.04.1 version of ubuntu does it matter ?
[21:41] <abraham> OerHeks, :) thanks
[21:41] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, no
[21:42] <abraham> OerHeks, can you teach me how to look for a package real name for removal ?
[21:43] <OerHeks> abraham, one way is to check the guide you followed, or install synaptic, a more detailed softwarecenter
[21:43] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[21:43] <walnutbeard> is there a good training videos for ubuntu ? i wanna learn deep downs of this amazin code system smooth as hell
[21:43] <OerHeks> synaptic got some nice filers, like showing packages in that ppa
[21:44] <OerHeks> c/filters
[21:44] <abraham> OerHeks, thank you, i got it. and it solves my problems :)
[21:45] <tex> I guess my question is too hard for this IRC...
[21:45] <walnutbeard> which distro mr robot usin in tv serie? :d
[21:45] <usr13> tex: What's  your question?
[21:45] <tgm4883> tex: what do you mean they don't leave?
[21:45] <xangua> walnutbeard: don't know but he uses utorrent :-\
[21:45] <tex> I have an Ubuntu NAT router. Works fine for everything except for UDP multicast. UDP packets make it to the router, but don't leave. Am I missing something?
[21:46] <hay> hi all... I am using USB sound card through pci passthrough on a proxmox VM and would like to totally disable the sound card on host... upon booting, a message usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio is displayed on host... how can I disable it? thanks
[21:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> tex: what are you using for multicast routing?
[21:46] <tgm4883> tex: you made a point to mention it's a NAT router, are you trying to go between vlans with your multicast traffic?
[21:47] <walnutbeard> piratebay ftw :D
[21:47] <tex> The NAT device has two wlans and an eth. Incoming UDP traffic on eth0. wlan0 is used for AP
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> i've never done multicast over nat, sounds like a nightmare.
[21:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> tex: using PIM?
[21:47] <tex> I can see all of the incoming UDP traffic via tcpdump.
[21:48] <tex> not using PIM
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> so then which multicast routing protocol are you using?
[21:48] <tex> dnsmasq, hostapd and iptables is all I'm using
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> oh. then yea, you don't have multicast routing :P
[21:48] <tex> maybe that's what I'm missing...
[21:48] <tgm4883> tex: there's extra stuff to setup. By design, multicast doesn't pass routers
[21:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> multicast routing is... "crazy".
[21:49] <tex> I'm just calling maddr to add the ip addresses
[21:49] <tex> right?
[21:49] <tex> so, you say PIM is the way to go? over mrouted?
[21:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> step one is to moderate your expectations: you're in for a deep dive into a bottomless rabbit hole.
[21:50] <tex> haha fair enough... I'm already one shoe in
[21:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> thankfully, all i have left of my multicast routing experience is ptsd :P
[21:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> unfortunately, that means i won't be of much (read: any) help here.
[21:50] <tex> understood
[21:51] <tex> hey, at least I know where to start
[21:51] <tex> much appreciated
[21:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> depending on your topology, you need to pick dense/sparse mode.
[21:51] <tex> oh god...
[21:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> or i guess there's 2 other variants too.
[21:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> yea. it's bad :P
[21:52] <tex> so, perhaps this?
[21:52] <tex> http://troglobit.com/pimd.html
[21:53] <tgm4883> I tried setting up multicast routing once in order to play civ 5 across some vlans. I gave up
[22:02] <rexwin_> when trying to scp using sudo i get scp: /home/ubuntu/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz: Permission denied
[22:02] <jatt> you don't have permissions either to read or write
[22:02] <walnutbeard> can i change folder background color from white to black and font color to white ?
[22:03] <usr13> rexwin_: ls -l /home/ubuntubackup_2016-11-16.tar.gz
[22:03] <usr13> rexwin_: But you should tell us the complete command so we can see what else might be wrong.
[22:04] <walnutbeard> such as when u right click on screen as u see black background and white fonts
[22:04] <usr13> rexwin_: Also du
[22:04] <rexwin_> this is what I ran :            scp /home/raju/Downloads/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz ubuntu@192.168.80.130:~
[22:04] <usr13> rexwin_: df
[22:04] <rexwin_> sudo scp too doesnot work
[22:04] <usr13> ~?
[22:05] <rexwin_> disk space is ok
[22:05] <usr13> rexwin_: sudo will not help you
[22:05] <jatt> you don't have rights on the remote machine
[22:06] <jatt> as ubuntu user
[22:06] <jatt> maybe there is a backup*gz file already there that cannot be overwritten
[22:07] <usr13> rexwin_: Does user "ubuntu" have a home directory on 192.168.80.130?
[22:07] <rexwin_> yes it does
[22:07] <sliddis> what is the correct command to restart networks to get new IP???
[22:07] <usr13> rexwin_: and again, what is "~" for?
[22:07] <sliddis> sudo ifdown ifup ens192 doesnt work
[22:07] <jatt> ~ is /home/ubuntu
[22:07] <rexwin_> yeah
[22:07] <Epx998> Trying to setup dnsmasq using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/PXE-netboot-install wiki, clients are hanging at "error: variable `prefix' isn't set" not sure what to check for this error.
[22:08] <jatt> try
[22:08] <jatt> scp /home/raju/Downloads/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz ubuntu@192.168.80.130:/tmp/
[22:08] <usr13> rexwin_: ssh ubuntu@192.168.80.130 ls
[22:09] <usr13> rexwin_: or ssh ubuntu@192.168.80.130 df
[22:09] <usr13> jatt: Why would he put it in /tmp/ ?
[22:10] <rexwin_> listed all the remote files ------------->ssh ubuntu@192.168.80.130 l
[22:10] <walnutbeard> can i change folder background color from white to black and font color to white ?any1 know ?
[22:10] <usr13> jatt: might work though....
[22:10] <jatt> just to test
[22:11] <jatt> to me either he doesn't have rights to write to Downloads or there is already a backup*gz file there from another user
[22:11] <usr13> walnutbeard: Are you looking for terminal menu options?
[22:11] <rexwin_> this worked scp /home/raju/Downloads/backup_2016-11-16.tar.gz ubuntu@192.168.80.130:/tmp/
[22:12] <usr13> jatt: Probably the latter
[22:12] <Amm0n> sftp > scp
[22:12] <rexwin_> but I want to scp to /home/ubuntu like ~
[22:12] <walnutbeard> not for terminal normal folder colors
[22:12] <walnutbeard> home files documents etc
[22:12] <usr13> what is the "~" for?
[22:12] <tex> Epx998: why don't you just setup dnsmasq yourself? you'll be surprised how easy it it
[22:12] <rexwin_> home directory
[22:13] <rexwin_> tilde is for that
[22:13] <usr13> rexwin_: ubuntu@192.168.80.130:  *is* the home directory.
[22:14] <usr13> rexwin_: ... so you do not need the ~
[22:14] <jatt> at least on bash ~ is $HOME
[22:14] <rexwin_> Permission denied for ubuntu@192.168.80.130:
[22:14] <usr13> so why type the ~ for no reason?
[22:15] <rexwin_> either way it is denying
[22:15] <usr13> rexwin_: Can you ping 192.168.80.130?
[22:15] <jatt> ~ is tilde expansion, it's common usage
[22:15] <usr13> rexwin_: Can you ssh into 192.168.80.130?
[22:15] <rexwin_> yes it lists
[22:15] <usr13> jatt: Well, I would never use it, never have because it is not needed.
[22:15] <rexwin_> listed all the remote files ------------->ssh ubuntu@192.168.80.130 l
[22:16] <usr13> rexwin_:  And what are the ownerships?
[22:16] <nicomachus> rexwin_: let's back up. what exactly are you trying to do? copy folders from this remote pc?
[22:16] <station1> i have a complicated server setup in a VM cloned it to a HDD    Ubuntu16.04 server starts perfectly only ethernet isent configured RTL8111GR i presume  ——firmware-realtek — — is the package. is there a comand to reconfigure/reinstall it without internet?
[22:16] <rexwin_> from one vm to another vm bot ubuntu
[22:16] <usr13> ssh ubuntu@192.168.80.130 ls -ld /home/ubuntu
[22:16] <rexwin_> both
[22:17] <usr13> rexwin_: "from one vm to another vm bot ubuntu"?  Is it on two different computers?
[22:17] <rexwin_> dr-xr-xr-x 20 ubuntu ubuntu 12288 Oct 28 11:10 /home/ubuntu
[22:17] <kai> exit
[22:17] <rexwin_> no both are in my laptop
[22:18] <usr13> rexwin_: There are other ways to transfer files from one vm to another.
[22:18] <walnutbeard> can we apply any other themes for ubuntu 16 ? ambiance radiance high contrast what else ?
[22:18] <rexwin_> I am wondering why scp is throwing the error
[22:18] <jatt> permissions issue
[22:18] <usr13> rexwin_: Are you sure there is space on the virtual HD?
[22:19] <Amm0n> rexwin_, because user ubuntu doesn't have write permission
[22:19] <rexwin_> yes it is and one of the ubuntu machines has DNS installed
[22:19] <station1> Help please: have a complicated server setup in a VM cloned it to a HDD    Ubuntu16.04 server starts perfectly only ethernet isent configured RTL8111GR i presume  ——firmware-realtek — — is the package. is there a comand to reconfigure/reinstall it without internet?
[22:19] <usr13> jatt: Yes, you are correct, no write permissions to /home/ubuntu
[22:20] <thanzeon> Hi everyone! i'm trying to set up a virtual machine for some projects of mine, i'm using Ubuntu 16.10 64 bit, VMWare Workstation pro 12 and Win 10 with an Intel i7 6700 HQ. The installation and first run go as smooth as possible, however, after the first reboot within the first 10 / 15 seconds it appears a message saying "The CPU has been disabled
[22:20] <thanzeon> by the guest operating system." no warnings or errors, the vm just freeze and i get the message from VMWare. This is the second time i do a complete reinstall of the vm. Any thoughts?
[22:20] <usr13> rexwin_: ssh ubuntu@192.168.80.130  and sudo chmod +w /home/ubuntu
[22:20] <usr13> rexwin_: But how would that happen?
[22:22] <rexwin_> thanks usr13
[22:22] <rexwin_> it went scp'ing after sudo chmod +w /home/ubuntu
[22:22] <Kireji> runn an npm server loaclly on port 3000, but when I point my browser to that machien from outside, no connection.  cannot figure out why
[22:23] <usr13> rexwin_: Yep. There'
[22:23] <usr13> There's usually always a secret reason for ubuntu mystery
[22:24] <Squarism> i have ubuntu 14.04 and i run a software called hexchat with version 2.9.6. Its 3 yeards old. How do install the latest hexchat 2.12.x?
[22:24] <Squarism> ...using apt-get
[22:24] <Squarism> sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade hexchat
[22:24] <Squarism> just gives me 2.9.6
[22:24] <Bashing-om> !info hexchat | trusty
[22:25] <usr13> Squarism: Clever!
[22:25] <stan_man_can> If I have a binary that I want to run as a service, where should it reside in the filesystem?
[22:25] <stan_man_can> this machine is dedicated to running this binary, which is an HTTP server
[22:25] <Squarism> Bashing-om, what does that tell me?
[22:26] <energizer1> Can you suggest a tiny usb wifi adapter for a laptop?
[22:26] <usr13> stan_man_can: Depends on what you are running.  But really, it is up to you.
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Squarism: Package management system broke ? I be checking what should be .
[22:27] <stan_man_can> usr13, any suggestions?
[22:27] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, /opt
[22:27] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, thanks
[22:27] <thanzeon> no one?
[22:28] <Squarism> Bashing-om, is my package management system broke?
[22:28] <kostkon> Squarism, they offer two ppas. Use at your own risk. https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html   Looks like the glebihan PPA offers the latest version.
[22:28] <usr13> stan_man_can: /lib/systemd/system/foo.service
[22:29] <walnutbeard> i installed playonlinux and installed battlenet application but when i press hearthstone to log in i get program error does any1 playin hearthstone or any blizzard games?
[22:29] <usr13> stan_man_can: systemctl enable foo.service
[22:29] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, should the binary sit directly in /opt or within a subdirectory?
[22:29] <Squarism> kostkon, ok.. so latest version is not compiled for trusty?
[22:29] <stan_man_can> usr13, sorry I was more asking where should the actual application binary go
[22:29] <Squarism> kostkon, in the default ppa's
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Squarism: Nope; Per : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hexchat&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all version 2.9.6.1-2ubuntu0.1  is the latest available in the repo for trusty install .
[22:30] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, that's up to you^
[22:30] <usr13> stan_man_can: In your path
[22:30] <usr13> stan_man_can: You can use /home/stan/bin/
[22:31] <usr13> stan_man_can: If it is in your path
[22:31] <usr13> stan_man_can: /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin etc. etc.
[22:31] <kostkon> Squarism, the stable ppa offers the stable version which you already have
[22:31] <Squarism> Bashing-om, kostkon thanks for showing me that
[22:31] <walnutbeard> do u understand this codes guys? https://codepaste.net/vjt912
[22:32] <Squarism> what is the most popular irc client on ubuntu?
[22:32] <Karl1000> Heyo
[22:32] <usr13> Squarism: irssi
[22:32] <Bashing-om> Squarism: Check our irssi . It is terminal and fast .
[22:33] <usr13> Squarism: (it's most popular with me :)
[22:33] <walnutbeard> should i do some settings on playonlinux ? https://codepaste.net/vjt912
[22:34] <station1> Help please: have a complicated server setup in a VM cloned it to a HDD    Ubuntu16.04 server starts perfectly only ethernet isent configured RTL8111GR i presume  ——firmware-realtek — — is the package. is there a comand to reconfigure/reinstall it without internet?
[22:34] <stan_man_can> usr13, Amm0n thanks guys
[22:34] <stan_man_can> Maybe i'll toss it in /opt for a now and see
[22:34] <stan_man_can> trying to figure this systemd thing out
[22:35] <Seth> bonne nuit à tous.
[22:35] <karlw> Squarism testing irssi.. TERMINAL BLIZZ - noobs not allowed. So rooot
[22:35] <karlw> help
[22:35] <Amm0n> stan_man_can, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[22:35] <walnutbeard> did i banned from channel :/
[22:36] <Bashing-om> stan_man_can: Have you seen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers ? Maybe help there to understand .
[22:36] <Squarism> nope.. irssi isnt for me
[22:36] <Squarism> terminal is not cool
[22:36] <stan_man_can> Amm0n, thanks
[22:37] <Bashing-om> karlw: UH uhh .. Do not run irssi as root . Huge security hole doing that .
[22:37] <stan_man_can> Bashing-om, I took a look earlier, the comparison to upstart doesn't help since i'm not familiar with either system, but it's still got lots of good info
[22:38] <kostkon> walnutbeard, doubt it, more like disconnected
[22:38] <stan_man_can> Bashing-om, Just to confirm, can systemd also be responsible for restarting a service if it dies?
[22:39] <Det87> A_F_K:
[22:39] <Det87> aarontc:
[22:39] <Det87> Aayush:
[22:39] <Det87> abra0:
[22:39] <Det87> Acn0w:
[22:39] <Det87> Acou_Bass:
[22:39] <_je_ne_veux_pas_> wat?
[22:39] <kostkon> just a bot
[22:39] <_je_ne_veux_pas_> ahh
[22:40] <brainwash> walnutbeard: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28855
[22:41] <brainwash> walnutbeard: read that. and if you don't understand any of it, go to #playonlinux
[22:41] <walnutbeard> ok ty
[22:46] <Bashing-om> stan_man_can: In systemd , yeah .. systemd is repsonsible to control all services .
[22:52] <walnutbeard> 1 last question for today playonlinux wine configuration page which version of windows should i use? xp or 7 for better performance?
[22:56] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[22:59] <squinty> walnutbeard, might want to ask in #playonlinux channel
[23:02] <Ludwig> I actually dont know if this is the right channel for my question. I have some problems getting a simple bash-script to work. I just want to concat 2 string variables and put them into another string, but my variables always get mixed up and they "overlap". for example if I put in ${name):${pw} the output will be :123ig anstatt Ludwig:123
[23:03] <geirha> Ludwig: sounds like there are carriage return characters in one of those variables. How did they get assigned?
[23:03] <thanzeon> REUP - Hi everyone! i'm trying to set up a virtual machine for some projects of mine, i'm using Ubuntu 16.10 64 bit, VMWare Workstation pro 12 and Win 10 with an Intel i7 6700 HQ. The installation and first run go as smooth as possible, however, after the first reboot within the first 10 / 15 seconds it appears a message saying "The CPU has been di
[23:03] <thanzeon> sabled by the guest operating system." no warnings or errors, the vm just freeze and i get the message from VMWare. This is the second time i do a complete reinstall of the vm. Any thoughts?
[23:04] <geirha> (I also assume the ')' was a typo)
[23:04] <Ludwig> yes that was a typo
[23:04] <Ludwig> name="Ludwig"
[23:04] <Ludwig> pw="123"
[23:04] <Ludwig> echo "${name}:${pw}";
[23:04] <Ludwig> thats my whole script
[23:05] <geirha> ok, then the editor you used saved the file with dos/windows line endings, instead of unix line endings
[23:05] <Schaap> echo "Ludwig:123";
[23:05] <Schaap> fixed
[23:05] <Guest37361> I logged out of "try ubuntu" mode booting off a USB stick, how do I log back in?
[23:05] <geirha> See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052
[23:05] <Ludwig> thanks geirha seems like that was exactly the problem
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Guest37361: Key combo ctl+F7 ??
[23:11] <Guest37361> Hi all, I logged out of "try ubuntu studio" mode booting off a USB stick, was testing to see if I have screencapture issues with Cinnamon install. This requires logging out and logging back in with the chosen desktop environment. But since this is a trail run with no installation there is no user or password. Anybody know what the default is?
[23:31] <OerHeks> Guest37361, cinnamon install in live iso of ubuntu studio ?
[23:33] <OerHeks> grinn, never seen anyone trying to install a desktop in a live environment, but the standard login is user: blanc and password: ubuntu
[23:33] <Ludwig> I am having trouble again with a rather simple bash script. I am trying to source a script and use the variables of the other script. but my sourcing always fails with an "testbash.sh: source: not found" error.
[23:33] <dStruct> is there an easier way to start something from the CLI into a particular workspace without doing crazy wmctrl witchcraft?
[23:34] <OerHeks> Ludwig, use full /path/to/file ?
[23:35] <Ludwig> I tried the full path but the error was the same. I am able to "sh /vagrant/github_login.sh", but when I try to source it "source /vagrant/github_login.sh" I get the not found error
[23:36] <nacc> Ludwig: fyi sh is not bash necessarily
[23:36] <nacc> Ludwig: also you may want to ask in the bash channel
[23:36] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[23:37] <Ludwig> nacc: okay then I will try it in the bash channel, thanks. Although I dont fully understand the first part of your answer. I am using "#!/usr/bin/env bash" at the start of my file
[23:38] <nacc> Ludwig: you said you run 'sh ...' sh is not necesarily the bash; by default on Ubuntu, sh is dash
[23:38] <nacc> Ludwig: maybe unrelated, but just a point to consider
[23:39] <walnutbeard> hi i just installed ubuntu for 3 hours i guess why i get this error 3rd time https://postimg.org/image/hnr08hca7/
[23:39] <walnutbeard> sorry ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error
[23:39] <dStruct> I'm trying to open a large number of gnome-terminals spread over 4 workspaces, but it's not cooperating at all, wmctrl -d shows one large workspace yet I cannot --geometry over to where things need to be
[23:41] <walnutbeard> also there is a topic in askubuntu same without answer
[23:43] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, just hit 'continue'to send the bugreport, i cannot find https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602855 as described in that screenshot
[23:43] <OerHeks> nothing we can do about it, actually
[23:43] <nacc> OerHeks: it's a private bug
[23:43] <Amm0n> dStruct, maybe you want to use tmux
[23:44] <nacc> OerHeks: no extra info in it, unfortunately
[23:44] <walnutbeard> well i pressed now can u check again plz?
[23:44] <dStruct> Amm0n: does it handle multi-window, I thought tmux would only do splitting of a single window?
[23:45] <OerHeks> nacc, ah private, oke
[23:45] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, nope
[23:45] <walnutbeard> any clue from picture?
[23:46] <dStruct> Amm0n: basically I have 15 gnome-terminals running ckermit to display 80x100 windows that can't really be sized much smaller, and I need quick access to monitor them
[23:47] <Amm0n> dStruct, it does only use a single window but you can use multiple sessions
[23:47] <dStruct> Amm0n: yeah I could do that, or screen, but I want to have everything up and visible.  Also my techs don't know linux that well so it has to be super simple for them
[23:47] <OerHeks> walnutbeard, what were you trying to do when this happened?
[23:49] <lordcirth> dStruct, I think you can script tmux to automatically open certain windows with programs running
[23:50] <dStruct> lordcirth: the issue is how can you open the tmux window with the click of an icon in Unity and have it place it on say workspace 2
[23:50] <lordcirth> dStruct, well here's a start: https://github.com/aaronhalford/tmux-scripts
[23:50] <dStruct> lordcirth: currently I have 3 gnome-terminals open with --geometry on workspace 1 (whatever is up at the time you click) and it works perfectly
[23:50] <dStruct> lordcirth: hey thanks
[23:53] <OerHeks> !cookie | lordcirth
[23:53] <lordcirth> lol
[23:59] <bjpenn> does apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade every single package on the system including third party ones like docker-engine?
[23:59] <Ben64> if it was installed using apt, yeah it'll grab the latest from whatever repository