[05:21] <CosmicTwitch> this is unbelievable. HOW MANY versions does it take to fix this keyring issue
[05:22] <CosmicTwitch> every single time i open chrome the focus is lost and you cant switch to the query window
[05:22] <CosmicTwitch> unless you click on it
[05:25] <CosmicTwitch> is there a channel for gnome-keyring
[05:25] <CosmicTwitch> perhaps I should try #gnome
[06:15] <hikiko> hi
[06:23] <FJKong> after building firefox, it takes 15G, aho
[06:30] <Sweet5hark> moin
[07:24] <pitti> Good morning
[07:32] <didrocks> good morning pitti!
[07:33] <Sweet5hark> g'morn pitti didrocks
[07:34] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, moin Sweet5hark!
[07:35] <didrocks> hey Sweet5hark
[08:07] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:07] <pitti> goedemorgen seb128
[08:08] <seb128> pitti, guten tag!
[08:08] <seb128> wie gehts?
[08:08] <pitti> prima, danke!
[08:12] <seb128> still having the nice weather?
[08:12] <seb128> seems it's going to be rainy all week here :-/
[08:13] <pitti> seb128: FSVO "nice" -- it's been clear but ice cold since Saturday
[08:13] <seb128> I take cold over wet any day
[08:13] <pitti> actually today it started drizzling
[08:37]  * seb128 needs to go for an appointement, back in an 1h
[08:52] <willcooke> hi all
[08:54] <flexiondotorg> Morning FJKong Sweet5hark pitti didrocks seb128 willcooke
[08:56] <didrocks> hey flexiondotorg
[08:56] <didrocks> @desktoppers: I think the design team needs some feedback on the convergent terminal replacement, do you mind giving your thoughts on https://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/d0de/16.10-terminal-and-browser-desktop-4.jpg ?
[08:56] <meetingology> didrocks: Error: "desktoppers:" is not a valid command.
[08:56] <didrocks> (I have mine, but don't want to influence you :))
[08:57] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, I will.
[08:58] <didrocks> thx :)
[08:58] <flexiondotorg> I took part in a UX study in March and the terminal was something we discussed then.
[08:58] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, How are you feeling?
[08:59] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: coughing less and less, but I got my voice back! thanks! :)
[09:00] <flexiondotorg> :-)
[09:00] <didrocks> (well, still weak, but some sounds are out now ;))
[09:00] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, Are you well enough to discuss a snap issue in #snappy?
[09:02] <Laney> multipass
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> 4th fav film ^
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> Laney, morning.
[09:03] <willcooke> Leeloo
[09:03] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: sure!
[09:03] <Laney> KORBEN DALLASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[09:03]  * Laney nods flexiondotorg didrocks willcooke 
[09:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:04] <willcooke> bzz bzzz bzz bzz
[09:38] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:39] <willcooke> howdy davmor2
[09:52] <davmor2> willcooke: I'm assuming this is a mix of foundations and desktop on a uefi securebooted system aptd keeps locking up and using 100% of the cpu turns out it is because it isn't showing the you are installing a dkms package please set password for disabling secureboot :(  I;ll file a bug under update-manager but feel free to share the love with foundations
[09:56] <willcooke> hm
[09:56] <willcooke> thanks davmor2
[09:56] <willcooke> odd
[10:14] <seb128> back, took a bit longer than expected :-/
[10:14] <willcooke> hey seb128 how goes?
[10:15] <seb128> hey willcooke! good, bit tired though, alarm clock at 7am was not a good idea
[10:15] <willcooke> ha
[10:15] <seb128> well at least I got some work done before going for that appointement
[10:15] <seb128> how are you?
[10:16] <seb128> good convergence session yesterday?
[10:16] <seb128> I watched a good part of it but had to go and missed the end
[10:16] <willcooke> bit tired, was a late finish in the end, another hour past the end of the session
[10:17] <willcooke> probably take off early on Friday
[10:18] <willcooke> chrisccoulson, qengho do you know if Let's Encrypt is an included CA Cert in Firefox / Chromium?
[10:18] <seb128> oh
[10:18] <seb128> lot of questions?
[10:18] <willcooke> I think it must be, but just want to make sure
[10:18] <willcooke> seb128, nah, I had some more meetings
[10:18] <seb128> oh ok
[10:19] <chrisccoulson> willcooke, I'm not sure
[10:19] <willcooke> chrisccoulson, np, I'll do some testing
[10:25] <chrisccoulson> willcooke, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-group/certs/
[10:25] <chrisccoulson> There is a link there to the included ones
[10:26] <chrisccoulson> (and ones pending inclusion)
[10:34] <davmor2> willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1642215
[10:34] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1642215 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Zesty updating a package that uses dkms is not triggering mokutil and causing aptd to use 100% cpu" [Undecided,New]
[10:35] <Laney> davmor2: update-manager is still bdmurray, FWIW
[10:35] <Laney> a full process list would be useful I'd reckon
[10:36] <davmor2> Laney: Yeah I'll have to await the next set of updates as soon as I do and it locks up again I can add it
[10:38] <Laney> you could probably downgrade something dkmsish
[10:39] <Laney> stupid fifth element
[10:39] <Laney> it's because I was looking at this package called 'asis'
[10:52] <seb128> Laney, I was wondering about your aziz light on fb yesterday ;-)
[10:53] <seb128> speaking of which, I wonder why some fb post have bigger text
[10:53] <Laney> seb128: yeah I was shouting it all day
[10:54] <Laney> I didn't understand why until I looked at excuses.html :P
[10:55] <seb128> lol
[11:06] <willcooke> flexiondotorg, not wishing to put yet another themeing problem on your plate, but how would you feel about looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1479054
[11:06] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1479054 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu Xenial) "Shuffle and repeat buttons pressed state does not visually differ from unpressed state" [High,In progress]
[11:06] <seb128> that would be a good one to fix indeed!
[11:07] <willcooke> with a view to SRUing too
[11:13] <flexiondotorg> willcooke, Added to my list.
[11:13] <willcooke> flexiondotorg, merci
[11:37] <rvr> Hi
[11:37] <rvr> I am running unity8 on Xenial with the overlay, but I can't see the Store
[11:37] <rvr> Is it available for installation?
[11:39] <rvr> Yeah, available, installed but it's not showing up :-/
[11:57] <seb128> rvr, hey, try asking on #ubuntu-unity that's where the unity8 team is, most of them don't read the desktop channel
[12:01] <rvr> seb128: Ack
[12:19] <tjaalton> anpok_: hi, how's libinput patch update doing?
[12:20] <qengho> willcooke: Let's Encrypt works fine in Chromium, modulo the current cert bug.
[12:26] <anpok_> tjaalton: each.. not yet tested..
[12:35] <willcooke> thx qengho
[16:15] <xnox> seb128, given there will not be 18.04 LTS for ubuntu desktop i386, are you going to continue built lts hwe xorg stacks and use them in the point releases?
[16:15] <xnox> e.g. how would 16.04.5 i386 desktop image release will look like?
[16:15] <seb128> that's a good question
[16:15] <seb128> I don't know, we need to talk about that
[16:15] <seb128> but I guess we do, the archive is not going away
[16:43] <xnox> seb128, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PrWnEF1wSmy5J85bJ2UJYDIx0fsvoYdBTWefUuDp5TQ/edit
[16:46] <seb128> xnox, k
[17:02]  * flexiondotorg goes to play Lego with my daughter during the UOS break...
[17:04] <seb128> enjoy!
[17:04]  * seb128 goes for sport
[17:56]  * flexiondotorg returns
[20:26] <willcooke> night all
[20:36] <flexiondotorg> Night desktopers
[21:03] <xnox> seb128, i shall not be publishing that draft now; or will reduce it to just down to i386.
[21:03] <xnox> seb128, but maybe it needs further discussion on ubuntu-desktop
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