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| TheMarius | hey anyone here running ubuntu on surface pro 3 and does it run well (with toutch etc)? | 02:41 |
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| cc | hello | 09:18 |
| cc | can we use sougou at ubuntu phone? | 09:18 |
| cc | i search all the information by google,but no answers | 09:18 |
| matv1 | Sil2100 Canonical Sytem Image for OTA 14 still ´Expected: 2016-11-14´. that could do with an update I think | 11:20 |
| matv1 | sil2100 if a new realistic date can be set. | 11:22 |
| sil2100 | matv1: yeah, let me poke Pat about it | 11:23 |
| sil2100 | Right now we're still struggling as oxide is not releasable | 11:23 |
| matv1 | yes I know. And on a personal note I would say https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1478319 | 11:24 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1478319 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Wifi doesn't reconnect to AP if it uses the same SSID than another AP" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:24 |
| matv1 | could really do with a fix | 11:24 |
| matv1 | which is also on the OTA 14 list | 11:25 |
| matv1 | sorry i meant to say #1598584 | 11:27 |
| matv1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1598584 | 11:28 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1598584 in Canonical System Image "wifi slows to a crawl when bluetooth is enabled" [Critical,In progress] | 11:28 |
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| ifitaintbroke | Just tried to install ubuntu touch on my oneplus one. all went well until where ubuntu-device-flash says: Rebooting into recovery to flash. | 11:59 |
| ifitaintbroke | The device rebooted, but is stuck in the boot logo (where it says powered by android) for like 10 minutes? | 12:00 |
| ifitaintbroke | I'm afraid I might have fried my bacon... :-D | 12:00 |
| ifitaintbroke | any ideas what I can/should do now? | 12:03 |
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| mterry | bfiller, heyo -- for bug 1629009 both messaging-app and dialer-app are marked as fix released or fix committed. But I can't find the branches for them or see them fixed. Do you know where the MPs are for those fixes so that I can include them in the silo? | 14:06 |
| ubot5` | bug 1629009 in unity-scopes-api (Ubuntu) "Does not work inside a snap due to hardcoded paths" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629009 | 14:06 |
| bfiller | mterry, let me check, I know the snaps are in the store | 14:10 |
| bfiller | possible the code never got merged | 14:10 |
| bfiller | renato__, ^^^^ | 14:10 |
| bfiller | mterry, actually wanted to ask you about that - I noticed they were preisntalled in the unity8 snap, but shouldn't we be using the snaps instead? | 14:11 |
| bfiller | mterry, same with browser | 14:11 |
| renato__ | mterry, yes there is snap packages for these apps on store. But probably this bug does not appear on desktop, due the lack of modem. But I have plans to test it with boiko helps | 14:12 |
| bfiller | renato__, where are the MR's? and did they land in trunk? | 14:13 |
| renato__ | bfiller, yes they landed already | 14:13 |
| renato__ | bfiller, but not for this bug specific. Was more related with packaging stuff | 14:13 |
| mterry | bfiller: fair question about snaps/debs. I think we were using debs as bootstrapping. And I'm leery to remove them until we can install snaps from the store and launch them :) | 14:14 |
| mterry | renato__: yeah then I don't think this bug is fixed | 14:14 |
| mterry | Although if the snaps work, maybe it won't matter when we switch to using those... | 14:15 |
| mterry | But at least that bugs tracking status should be correct and the two packages should be set off Fix Committed | 14:17 |
| mterry | Though I wonder if the snaps do work without such a fix | 14:17 |
| bfiller | mterry, I'll fix that and we'll take a look today to see if we can fix the issues with launching as deb | 14:20 |
| mterry | bfiller: though I suppose dialer and messenger in particular can be dropped as built-in debs. Likely uninteresting for most desktop users. I think they were just added so that we'd have some apps to open | 14:23 |
| bfiller | mterry, right, dialer and messaging aren't too interesting on desktop until we add SIP and other messaging (non-sms) support | 14:24 |
| mterry | kgunn: any objection to dropping dialer-app and messaging-app from the u8 snap? seem like uninteresting apps for desktop | 14:31 |
| kgunn | mterry: yeah, i think that's fine.... is webbrowser already in ? | 14:36 |
| kgunn | if not we should work to add that | 14:37 |
| kgunn | bfiller: ^ fyi | 14:37 |
| mterry | kgunn: yes and no. It's normally in, but I think we hit a bug in snapcraft the last silo snap build that excluded it. Working to reproduce and file if so | 14:37 |
| bfiller | kgunn, mterry : once we can launch snaps, the browser is snapped and in the store | 14:38 |
| mterry | cool, that would make sense ya | 14:38 |
| kgunn | bfiller: nice, so just install from terminal | 14:39 |
| mterry | kgunn: I'm guessing we'd want to continue keeping USS and u8 together? They are tightly coupled | 14:39 |
| kgunn | or could install from store scope | 14:39 |
| kgunn | mterry: yeah uss should def stay in u8 | 14:39 |
| bfiller | mterry, yes for sure about USS and u8, was always the plan | 14:39 |
| kgunn | imho | 14:39 |
| bfiller | +1 | 14:39 |
| mterry | alright, will just drop the dialer and messenger apps for now | 14:39 |
| kgunn | pmcgowan: ^ just fyi | 14:40 |
| mterry | and keep an eye on being able to drop the browser | 14:40 |
| kgunn | pmcgowan: i guess that's a question, not sure what the expectations are about browser and u8-snap...should it always "be in the u8 snap" | 14:40 |
| pmcgowan | kgunn, sounds fine | 14:40 |
| kgunn | or ok to remove it, and have user install it | 14:40 |
| mterry | heh, looks like we're installing a few apps I didn't realize -- becuase they don't show up in a scope. Wonder why | 14:41 |
| mterry | Contacts and Media | 14:41 |
| pmcgowan | kgunn, I would put it in for now? | 14:41 |
| pmcgowan | mterry, media probably has a no show in the desktop file, but contacts should show | 14:42 |
| mterry | pmcgowan: ack | 14:42 |
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| mterry | tedg: in the u8 snap, address-book-app doesn't show up in App scopes because its Exec= line is an absolute path. Is that UAL's fault or the click scope's fault? | 16:51 |
| tedg | mterry: I think that's UAL's fault, it should probably prepend the $SNAP in that case... | 16:52 |
| tedg | Can't think of a reason you'd want to call a binary outside of your snap | 16:52 |
| mterry | tedg: OK. It does for the icon right? Makes sense to do so for Exec | 16:52 |
| tedg | I think /bin/sh maybe? | 16:52 |
| mterry | tedg: yeah /bin/sh is use case | 16:53 |
| tedg | It's the only one I can think of though, even stuff like Python would be worst case bind mounted into your snap. | 16:53 |
| mterry | tedg: we could also make address-book-app not use absolute path... But your call | 16:53 |
| mterry | tedg: you could check if prepended path is valid, else leave it alone | 16:54 |
| tedg | Well, we should probably do both. People are likely to crib from our snaps, but I think that the apps we've got are a good example of bugs we should fix :-) | 16:54 |
| tedg | mterry: The problem is that "valid" is so hard in to calculate the mount container that snaps are put into :-/ | 16:54 |
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| tedg | mterry: We'd have to look in their base snap, because it could be different than the "/" for us. | 16:55 |
| mterry | tedg: I'm just looking at legacy case | 16:56 |
| tedg | mterry: Hmm, I think I might be changing my own mind... we can't have apps with / in their desktop file because there's no way to resolve that. | 16:56 |
| tedg | mterry: Ah, I see. | 16:57 |
| tedg | mterry: Legacy in the U8 snap. | 16:57 |
| mterry | right | 16:57 |
| tedg | So really just for system settings long term ;-) | 16:57 |
| tedg | Yeah, let's just fix that then. We can detect it easily enough. | 16:58 |
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| mterry | renato__: you also have address-book-app marked fix released for bug 1629009, but it still has problems looking up Unity.InputInfo due to a non-prefixed UNITY8_QML_PATH | 17:11 |
| ubot5` | bug 1629009 in messaging-app (Ubuntu) "Does not work inside a snap due to hardcoded paths" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629009 | 17:11 |
| mterry | er, fix committed | 17:11 |
| mterry | renato__: also, its desktop file uses an absolute path for its Exec when maybe it shouldn't. We can work around that in UAL but might be easier to just use "address-book-app" instead of full path | 17:13 |
| renato__ | mterry, this is how it work in the past. if you have another solution now I can update it | 17:15 |
| mterry | renato__: for the desktop file? I mean my suggestion is just switching "/usr/bin/address-book-app" for "address-book-app" | 17:15 |
| mterry | renato__: for UNITY8_QML_PATH, needs actual code patch | 17:15 |
| renato__ | mterry, ok for dekstop I can update | 17:16 |
| renato__ | mterry, all ours apps uses full path. because this is the way that was working in the past | 17:16 |
| renato__ | mterry, and about the icon? | 17:16 |
| mterry | renato__: we have code for icon to prefix correctly, I believe | 17:17 |
| mterry | just harder to do it for path | 17:17 |
| mterry | Exec path | 17:17 |
| mterry | When it might be /bin/sh or whatever | 17:17 |
| renato__ | mterry, our icons uses full path too | 17:17 |
| mterry | But I think tedg is working on something there anyway | 17:17 |
| mterry | renato__: right. UAL prefixes $SNAP for you there | 17:17 |
| renato__ | mterry, do you prefer ted to finish the work. Than we can test? Because this was changed in the past already | 17:18 |
| mterry | renato__: most apps I can see (USS, terminal, dialer, messager, etc) use non-absolute Exec paths | 17:19 |
| renato__ | mterry, I remember that the store reject the app if the path was wrong | 17:19 |
| renato__ | mterry, ok I will try | 17:19 |
| mterry | renato__: so I don't know what the state of art is. But you can either fix the desktop or not. Just telling you that it doesn't show up in app scope right now | 17:19 |
| mterry | renato__: but having it show up isn't much good if you don't also fix the hardcoded unity8 path | 17:20 |
| renato__ | mterry, yes probably because something has changed. In the past was working nice | 17:20 |
| mterry | renato__: working nice in the unity8 snap? I'm sure it all works fine in normal contexts (phone, desktop) | 17:20 |
| mterry | renato__: but u8 snap is new, I don't think it ever worked well in there | 17:20 |
| renato__ | mterry, unity debian | 17:20 |
| mterry | renato__: right. That's fine. I'm not talking about that though. Specifically the unity8-session snap we've been trying to get working | 17:21 |
| mterry | That's what bug 1629009 is about for example | 17:21 |
| ubot5` | bug 1629009 in messaging-app (Ubuntu) "Does not work inside a snap due to hardcoded paths" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629009 | 17:21 |
| renato__ | mterry, ok, we tested this against unity8 debian. | 17:23 |
| renato__ | mterry, I will update the apps | 17:23 |
| renato__ | mterry, probably I app that I fixed has hardcoded paths on desktop file | 17:24 |
| mterry | tedg: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/policykit-unity8/snap-root/+merge/311057 | 18:32 |
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| tedg | mterry: Does that work? Are we putting policykit in the snap itself? | 18:47 |
| tedg | mterry: Seems like it'd have to be in core? | 18:47 |
| tedg | (or something else non-unity8) | 18:47 |
| mterry | tedg: haven't tested end-to-end yet. Just realized that the snapd login service is policykit-protected. And u8 needs that package to talk to polkit | 19:15 |
| mterry | tedg: there are several other services we rely on that need policykit, we usually just special-cased phablet in Touch | 19:16 |
| tedg | mterry: K, thinking that we'll probably need another way to install that conf file. | 19:16 |
| tedg | mterry: like it can't live in our snap | 19:16 |
| mterry | tedg: that MP is unity8 specific, why wouldn't it live in our snap? | 19:16 |
| mterry | tedg: policykit itself, sure, that can be outside | 19:16 |
| tedg | mterry: The agent would be in our snap, but the conf file needs to install outside. | 19:16 |
| tedg | mterry: To wherever the outside policykit wants them. | 19:17 |
| mterry | tedg: which conf file? | 19:17 |
| mterry | the one in the MP is for upstart, which is inside the snap | 19:17 |
| tedg | mterry: Oh, wait, you're right. Sorry I was confused. | 19:18 |
| tedg | mterry: I thought we had to install one in /usr | 19:18 |
| tedg | mterry: Makes sense, +1 :-) | 19:18 |
| mterry | tedg: any objection to me pushing it through a silo by itself to xenial+zesy? | 19:19 |
| tedg | mterry: nope | 19:19 |
| mterry | cool thx | 19:19 |
| bfiller | mterry, tedg: is it known/expected that I can't run a snap from the terminal in unity8 snap session? I can install the snap but don't see it on the path | 19:48 |
| mterry | bfiller: interesting... I haven't tried that yet, but I would have guessed /snap/bin would be on the path | 19:49 |
| tedg | bfiller: in general running from the terminal won't work anyway, you'll need to use ubuntu-app-launch to start apps. | 19:50 |
| mterry | tedg: but for non-graphical apps... | 19:52 |
| mterry | It does seem like /snap/bin isn't in the PATH. But should be, I'd wager | 19:52 |
| tedg | I guess, but you can't run anything from it anyway. | 19:52 |
| tedg | It is the same snap-on-snap problem. | 19:52 |
| bfiller | tedg, I guess when we can launch them from scope it won't be an issue | 19:53 |
| bfiller | tedg, just trying to figure out a way to test snaps until we fix the launching from scope | 19:53 |
| tedg | I think I might have just cracked the nut on that one... so hopefully soon. | 19:55 |
| renato__ | mterry, about the desktop files. Which one are you using on unity8 snap? That one that is shiped inside of setup/gui/<dekstop> or the one that is installed with the app? | 19:56 |
| tedg | Though, honestly, systemd is like being handed a bowl of nuts. | 19:56 |
| tedg | renato__: setup/gui/appname.desktop | 19:56 |
| bfiller | renato__, are you trying to figure out why the icon is not showing up? | 19:56 |
| renato__ | bfiller, no I am trying to understand which file mterry asked me to remove the hardcoded paths | 19:57 |
| renato__ | the file inside setup/gui/ is not hardcoded | 19:57 |
| mterry | renato__: I was using the one installed with the app in /usr/share/applications (right now, unity8 snap bundles the address-book-app deb inside of it) | 19:58 |
| tedg | Ah, sorry. I was confused on the question. My answer was for other snaps. | 19:58 |
| renato__ | mterry, sorry I do not understand. Address-book-app that is on store, contains both desktop files | 19:59 |
| bfiller | renato__, he's using the deb | 19:59 |
| bfiller | from overlay | 19:59 |
| mterry | yup | 19:59 |
| mterry | not the snap | 19:59 |
| tedg | mterry: Okay, rebuilding UAL in the silo. Do you have a snap rebuild planned? | 20:08 |
| mterry | tedg: not planned no | 20:09 |
| tedg | mterry: K, I'll kick one off once this finishes | 20:09 |
| bfiller | mterry, are you seeing address book app show up in scope? (I'm not). Or is that the issue you are trying to get resolved with renato | 20:09 |
| mterry | tedg: oh I did want to build online-accounts | 20:09 |
| mterry | tedg: but that can happen before or after snap build | 20:09 |
| mterry | bfiller: yes. Additionally, once it does show up, it doesn't display anything due to hardcoded paths to unity8's qml modules | 20:10 |
| bfiller | ack | 20:10 |
| mterry | Which I don't know how you solve when the app is its own independent snap... | 20:10 |
| mterry | But at least in this use case you can solve | 20:10 |
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| mterry | jdstrand: I'm getting this from media-hub while trying to play a song from the dash in the in-progress unity8 snap: "Error while executing the underlying io_service: apparmor::ubuntu::Context: Invalid profile name snap.unity8-session.unity8-session" -- what would a valid profile name look like? | 20:56 |
| jdstrand | mterry: that is a valid profile name for snappy. I suspect that the checks it has need to be adjusted from the click world (<name>_<app>_<version>) to the snap world (snap.<name>.<command>) | 21:06 |
| mterry | jdstrand: oh huh it's worse than that -- media-hub has some particular apparmor integration and is expecting unity to represent as "unity8-dash" | 21:07 |
| mterry | jdstrand: ok so not anything to do with you, I jumped the gun :) thx | 21:07 |
| jdstrand | np | 21:08 |
| jdstrand | mterry: note that jhodapp_ is aware of some libapparmor changes that could cleanup this code. I don't know the status of that work but before you go and fix it, you might want to sync with him | 21:09 |
| mterry | k, though I think this is just internal to media-hub | 21:10 |
| jdstrand | mterry: yes, that is what I mean. media-hub can be cleaned up to use the libapparmor more effectively | 21:10 |
| jhodapp_ | mterry, yeah there's some work to be done there | 21:10 |
| mterry | jdstrand: ah got ya | 21:10 |
| jdstrand | there were some changes to the libapparmor api that came in after media-hub implemented those checks | 21:11 |
| mterry | jhodapp_: is there an existing bug for media-hub? I'm looking for something to track | 21:12 |
| mterry | I can make one | 21:12 |
| jhodapp_ | mterry, hang on, let me finish the meeting I'm in and I'll search quickly | 21:12 |
| mterry | jhodapp_: cool no rush | 21:12 |
| jhodapp_ | mterry, there might be one but it might not longer describe what you need | 21:12 |
| jhodapp_ | mterry, ok I think this bug will cover what you're asking for...I was trying to find an email that jdstrand sent me explaining the situation better but can't find it...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1489489 | 21:42 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1489489 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "The org.freedesktop.DBus.GetConnectionAppArmorSecurityContext() method is deprecated" [Medium,In progress] | 21:42 |
| tyhicks | jhodapp_: I don't think that's the right bug | 21:44 |
| jdstrand | jhodapp_: https://trello.com/c/ftSp1Ogp/649-implement-aa-query-file-fd-to-fix-toctou-issues-with-using-aa-query-file-path | 21:44 |
| jhodapp_ | jdstrand, thanks! forgot where you had added that info | 21:44 |
| mterry | jhodapp_: hmm, I'm not sure if that bug will fix my issue (maybe during the cleanup, the offending code will be removed...) | 21:45 |
| mterry | jhodapp_: thanks for pointer | 21:45 |
| jhodapp_ | mterry, ok if you wouldn't mind filing a new bug referring to that trello card that should work | 21:45 |
| mterry | jhodapp_: ok will do. tomorrow though, gotta sign off soon | 21:46 |
| jhodapp_ | mterry, same here, cheers | 21:46 |
| renato__ | mterry, hey I am getting this error while trying to snapcraft unity8: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 22:09 |
| renato__ | mterry, any I idea what could cause that? | 22:09 |
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