[00:22] <jrwren> you read docs?!?!  :p
[00:25] <cmaloney> jrwren: I didn't want to say "have Stack Overflow open"
[00:26] <jrwren> bwahahahaha
[00:46] <gamerchick02> well, i use a single monitor at home and it works fine, especially on win10 now with multiple desktops. :)
[00:46] <gamerchick02> i love multiple desktops. more than i probably should...
[00:47] <gamerchick02> i just get grumpy when someone insists that i need to do my work the same way they do their work. uhm, no. if i find a second monitor to be useful, i'll use it.
[00:47] <gamerchick02> so. put it this way, if you force me into something, i'll be very resistant to it, but if you let me come to my own conclusions, i'll be more interested in doing it a different way.
[00:48] <gamerchick02> ok i'm out. gonna lay on the couch and veg. this stupid cold is killing me. see everyone tomorrow night!! :)
[07:23] <Scary_Guy> My friend's old setup from when he had his apartment http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/gallery_browse.asp?ID=421&date=desc&nummon=true&mon=desc
[07:24] <Scary_Guy> I only have three right now, down from five
[07:26] <Scary_Guy> I have one monitor dedicated to IRC and another with ncmpcpp and htop, then the main bigscreen for movies, games, and whatnot
[07:28] <Scary_Guy> also i3wm works amazing for productivity.  especially using mate and just replacing marco with it
[07:29] <Scary_Guy> the only thing I hate is sorting out any conflicting keyboard shortcuts
[15:50] <cmaloney> I'm finding the You Don't Know JavaScript books are awesome for understanding what the hell JavaScript is doing
[15:51] <rick_h> hah, fun stuff
[15:51] <cmaloney> especially the book on this and Object Oriented
[15:51] <cmaloney> Basically every problem I've had with JavaScript is how folks try to use it and get it wrong. :)
[15:51] <cmaloney> like trying to treat "this" as "self"
[15:52] <cmaloney> You can do it, but eventually it will surprise you
[15:52] <cmaloney> because they're not quite the same
[15:53] <jrwren> not at all the same thing, IMO
[15:53] <jrwren> but... I'm insane
[15:53] <cmaloney> Wel, I watched a HTML5 Game Development video
[15:54] <cmaloney> and he explained that `this` could lead to gotchas
[15:54] <cmaloney> because of where it is in the stack
[15:54] <cmaloney> and I'm thinking "you're doing it wrong"
[15:54] <cmaloney> he basically made a global "class" that he passed around
[15:58] <jrwren> oh! so... you were waiting for it to surprise him?
[16:00] <cmaloney> WEll, he pointed it out to his "class"
[16:00] <cmaloney> (about four developers)
[16:00] <cmaloney> and mentioned how it could get you into trouble
[16:00] <cmaloney> which made me wonder why he used `this` at all.
[16:02] <jrwren> ah, I see.
[16:02] <jrwren> well, when a method is defined on an object and you want to access that object, this is how you do that, right?
[16:03] <cmaloney> From what I've seen it's a huge "it depends"
[16:03] <cmaloney> I'm not sure I 100% understandit
[16:04] <jrwren> cmaloney: effective javascript is a good book which gives it good treatment.
[16:04] <cmaloney> Because the example he (the video) showed had an instance where the browser was the last thing on the stack
[16:04] <cmaloney> right
[16:05] <cmaloney> I swear I have more books on JavaScript than I did for Perl / Python
[16:05] <jrwren> :)
[16:05] <cmaloney> and unfortunately a lot of them are from 2012 / 2013
[16:05] <jrwren> part of that, I think, is that there are a lot of bad javascript books.
[16:05] <cmaloney> oh no doubt
[16:06] <jrwren> i had a thought about perl this morning. Is there such a thing as a linux without perl?
[16:06] <jrwren> I cannot htink of a linux distro without it. I think even android uses it.
[16:06] <cmaloney> I think it's still in use
[16:06] <cmaloney> for those who don't want to dip into awk
[16:07] <cmaloney> or want to combine awk and sed. :)
[16:07] <jrwren> cmaloney: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22721/meetupcom-for-loco-teams/ is happening now.
[16:08] <jrwren> <3 awk
[16:08] <cmaloney> I'm tethered right now so I'm loathe to stream video
[16:09] <jrwren> ah, well it will be recorded and on youtube. I'll probably watch it later.
[16:09] <cmaloney> It's been one way that we've kept MUG growing
[16:10] <cmaloney> I think we get at least one or two folks who pop in for a meeting
[16:10] <cmaloney> retention is kind of a PITA though
[16:52] <shakes808> hello eveyone,  I wanted to know if anyone has run into this issue.  I have a stored proc that I can call within SQL Management Studio but when I run it in my ASP.NET C# web app it doesn't seem to execute correctly.  I have a bunch of PRINTs in the stored proc and I see that the final query that is being generated is not complete.  What would cause it to work in SQL Management Studio but not through the call of the site?
[16:58] <cmaloney> Different engines? Not sure
[16:59] <cmaloney> May want to see how ASP.NET C# calls stored procs
[16:59] <cmaloney> and if there's some strangeness in what it does to make the call
[17:00] <cmaloney> Also: are you passing the query over or are you doing some form of execution on the database itself?
[17:02] <jrwren> i didnt' even know you could PRINT in a stored proc and expect to get those results.
[17:03] <jrwren> shakes808: is the query timing out? is it long and slow and webpage execution is timing out and dropping the sql connection and causing the sproc to time out?
[17:03] <shakes808> cmaloney: I am calling this stored proc like all the others that I have called in the past.   Creating the sql object and the parameter objects to to pass to it and then invoking it.
[17:05] <shakes808> jrwren: When the stored proc errors out, it will print the PRINTs and then the error.   It is a way to debug it since you don't have access to debug the query outside of SQL Management Studio.  It is at least a way to give yourself cookie crumbs :)
[17:05] <cmaloney> Did you try removing the prints to see if the error shows up sooner?
[17:05] <shakes808> jrwren: and it isn't timing out because the PRINTs coming after the query is built continue and I get to the last PRINT
[17:06] <cmaloney> It might be dumping the buffer when the query ends
[17:06] <shakes808> cmaloney: I did not do that, but if I do that, then I won't know where it is erroring out.  That is the only way to figure out where it is in the stored proc
[17:06] <cmaloney> That's not the only place. :)
[17:06] <cmaloney> create a temp table and insert into it where you are
[17:07] <cmaloney> and then select from that table to see where it ends
[17:07] <cmaloney> (has to be more permanent than a "temp" table, but you get the idea
[17:07] <shakes808> cmaloney: alright, I will remove all the PRINT statements and see what happens.
[17:08] <jrwren> shakes808: it isn't timing out in asp.net, but its not completing? sounds like a fun issue to debug. I'm jealous.
[17:08] <cmaloney> jealous isn't the word that comes to mind
[17:09] <shakes808> HAHA
[17:09] <shakes808> jrwren: You are more than welcome to come by and help!   Been trying to figure this out for a day and a half now
[17:11] <jrwren> envious then.
[17:11] <jrwren> I wouldn't want to deprive shakes808 of the fun.
[17:11] <shakes808> jrwren: HAHAHA, thanks!