[03:40]  * cyberanger yawns
[03:44] <Unit193> ...Well, there was something out back.  I opened the door and heard something walk away.  Never saw anything.
[04:01] <cyberanger> Unit193: That's the problem with shoot on sight, you have to see the thing first. I'd rather shoot through the door, I mean packages from amazon will soon be drone delivered. So I shoot a drone, I've seen I, Robot. I'd call that a win win.
[04:02] <Unit193> Ah, sliding glass door, light on. :P
[04:05] <Omnifrog> I try to avoid shooting at things unless I know what it is
[04:06] <Omnifrog> mostly I shoot at things like beer cans and a printer I really hated
[04:08] <cyberanger> Omnifrog: I know some of the Chugalug guys have taken old servers and what not too, not hit that point yet?
[04:08] <Omnifrog> I have a soft spot for old hardware
[04:09] <Omnifrog> I like to keep them in the garage for all eternity
[04:09] <Omnifrog> but some printers just need to die
[04:10] <Omnifrog> I have an apple ][ in there
[04:11] <Omnifrog> and the fist commercially available VHS machine
[04:11] <Omnifrog> and some 286 and 486DX2 boxes
[04:12] <Omnifrog> but fucking printers
[04:12] <Omnifrog> NO*
[04:12] <cyberanger> Omnifrog: I nominate you to help lead the paperless office initative.
[04:12] <Omnifrog> I like paper
[04:13] <cyberanger> just not printers
[04:13] <Omnifrog> charge me a dollar to send me a statement every month
[04:13] <Omnifrog> I'm fine with that
[04:14] <Omnifrog> I want my god damned paper trail
[04:14] <cyberanger> lol
[04:14] <Omnifrog> lol, I fel so old
[04:15] <Omnifrog> I have file cabinets dedicated to record keeping
[04:15] <cyberanger> I've paid for the very detailed paper bill from the phone company, if they sent it in an email I wouldn't mind but I want that level of detail.
[04:16] <Omnifrog> no amount of ransomware can take that from me
[04:16] <cyberanger> and ironically I caught some shady business and got refunded the about for the bill and their error
[04:16]  * cyberanger avoids ransomware with an overkill backup policy
[04:16] <Omnifrog> although ... fire could but that's a different conversation
[04:17] <Omnifrog> I like paper records though
[04:18] <Omnifrog> it's hard to prove anything without total control of tangible evidence
[04:19] <cyberanger> Omnifrog: How close is the fire to you?
[04:19] <Omnifrog> there are no fires near enough to me to pose a physical threat
[04:20] <cyberanger> As long as people keep following the burn ban.
[04:20] <Omnifrog> the neares one in about 20 minutes drive
[04:20] <Omnifrog> maybe 35 minutes actually
[04:20] <Omnifrog> depends on traffic
[04:21] <cyberanger> Signal Mtn?
[04:22] <Omnifrog> yeah, I think that's the closest
[04:22] <Omnifrog> err..
[04:22] <Omnifrog> no
[04:22] <Omnifrog> lookout Mt
[04:22] <Omnifrog> that's the closest
[04:24] <cyberanger> I've got some in Polk Co. that are closer to me
[04:24] <cyberanger> (Presuming they've not been put out since I've been in W. NY)
[04:26] <Omnifrog> today was actually the first smoke free day here in almsot 2 weeks
[04:26] <Omnifrog> the winds shifted
[04:27] <Omnifrog> the forecast is still calling for poor air quality but it doesnt say exactly where
[04:28] <Omnifrog> the next 2 days are going to be warm though
[04:28] <Omnifrog> we might get close to 80*
[04:29] <Omnifrog> so that's not good
[04:29] <Omnifrog> still no rain in sight
[04:30] <cyberanger> Yeah, and Snow here Sunday
[04:31]  * cyberanger really is debating sticking around for it
[04:31] <Omnifrog> you should!
[04:31] <Omnifrog> snow is awesome in small doses
[04:31] <cyberanger> I don't even mind it in large doses
[04:32] <Omnifrog> well....
[04:32] <Omnifrog> after you pass several feet it gets annoying
[04:33] <Omnifrog> and if you are the one paying the heating bill it's flat out shitty
[04:34] <cyberanger> I was the only one paying the heating bill, It was better than the cooling bill here.
[04:34]  * cyberanger doesn't use the heat much, just enough to keep it cool but livable, say 60-65 degrees in winter.
[04:34] <Omnifrog> I got around the AC bill here in Chatt
[04:35] <Omnifrog> I got a window unit for the window at my desk
[04:35] <Omnifrog> it's small but effective
[04:36] <Omnifrog> I'm a bit of a pussy about cold though
[04:36] <Omnifrog> I stick to 67-69
[04:36] <cyberanger> I found even up here I spent more in the summer than winter (and a yearly avg made it more expensive there, but I am not sure it was 100% fair due to other eletric costs)
[04:37] <Omnifrog> do you have gas there ?
[04:38] <cyberanger> Family here does, when I last lived here no.
[04:38] <Omnifrog> electric is my only option here
[04:38] <cyberanger> And I'm comparing my apartment before moving north to the apartment I had here, 5sqft difference, both eletric. as much apples to apples as I can get.
[04:39] <cyberanger> and the one that was cheaper had the extra sqft
[04:39] <Omnifrog> unless I want to install a LPG tank or sonething
[04:40] <Omnifrog> ho long have you been away from the south (TN) ?
[04:40] <cyberanger> It was becuase I barely ran the A/C, heat and I don't think insulation was better, just about the same.
[04:40] <Omnifrog> how*
[04:42] <cyberanger> I grew up in the North, went to boarding schools in the south, my parents moved while I was in school (which meant so did I, effectively) moved up north for a year as an adult. I still live in Cleveland, TN.
[04:42] <cyberanger> I'm just up here on this trip becuase of family, My Grandmother had a stroke, and she passed away Sunday morning.
[04:43] <Omnifrog> oh, I'm sorry
[04:43] <Omnifrog> how are you doing
[04:44] <cyberanger> Thanks, anyways my life has been split about half in this Region (basically along a line from Erie, PA to Rochester, NY) and Cleveland, TN
[04:45] <cyberanger> It's not really hit me yet, I'm aware it's happened, but hasn't fully sunk in.
[04:45] <Omnifrog> sounds like a lot to deal with
[04:46] <cyberanger> Yeah, it is.
[04:46] <Omnifrog> I've been there. I lost my mom and my grandmother in close proximity. Im amazed I held it together
[04:47] <cyberanger> A lot of family here though, it's nice.
[04:47] <Omnifrog> well... I didn't really do a great job at that
[04:47] <Omnifrog> but I made it out
[04:47] <cyberanger> Not sure anyone does well.
[04:48] <Omnifrog> it's hard
[04:50] <Omnifrog> I struggle with that all the time
[04:50] <cyberanger> I've got a love for both places for that reason
[04:50] <cyberanger> neither has a majority, snowboard here, whitewater there (for an example)
[04:53] <Omnifrog> when you are back down here let me know
[04:53] <cyberanger> Will do, a few more days I figure
[04:54] <Omnifrog> Cleavland is just a short drive north
[04:55] <cyberanger> I used to work in Ooltewah, from the Murphy USA to my driveway, 13mi
[04:55] <cyberanger> up US 11
[04:56] <Omnifrog> I'm a transplant in this land but I have been here for 2 decades
[04:57] <Omnifrog> I still don't know my way around very well
[04:57] <Omnifrog> originally from CA
[04:58] <Omnifrog> US 11? no idea
[04:58] <cyberanger> Ugh, upsides to CA, but driving a frieghtliner is how I know CA. Oh my.
[04:59] <Omnifrog> CA sucks
[04:59] <Omnifrog> I'll never go back
[04:59] <cyberanger> Uhh, what's the local name for it? I'm sure you know it, I-75 Exit 11 Dumps onto it.
[05:00] <Omnifrog> I don't know what 11 is
[05:00] <Omnifrog> I can tell you about highway 4 in CA though
[05:01] <cyberanger> In Cleveland it's got the names of North Lee Hwy, Keith St. South Lee Hwy, I know Chattanooga Calls it Lee Hwy for a good chunk of it at least, the McDonalds and Food City sit on it
[05:01] <Omnifrog> ir I5
[05:01] <Omnifrog> Lee Hwy stretches down here too
[05:02] <Omnifrog> then there is Old Lee Hwy
[05:02] <Omnifrog> I don't know what these people were thinking
[05:03] <Omnifrog> everything is named after people from the civil war
[05:04] <cyberanger> Some of that predates the Civil war too, like Smith and Doe, just common
[05:05] <cyberanger> I think it is Lee Hwy in Ooltewah then too
[05:10] <Omnifrog> there is Old Lee Hwy and also Lee Hwy here
[05:11] <Omnifrog> it's confusing
[05:11] <Omnifrog> and it's getting worse
[05:12] <Omnifrog> the new construction thanks to the VW plant and the new Amazon construction is changing the landscape in major ways
[05:12] <cyberanger> You have Apison, Oooltewah and Collegedale all crammed together adding to it, the annexing to where it's one blob overlapping another almost.
[05:13] <Omnifrog> I'm on the edge of Oooltewah
[05:13] <cyberanger> And yet ironically I'm told the Walmart is in a odd spot nobody claims, so it only operates under State and Hamiliton County laws
[05:13] <Omnifrog> like, literally on the border
[05:14] <cyberanger> allowing for 24/7 beer purchases (but the state regulated wine sales preventing that)
[05:14] <Omnifrog> they just got wine in the past month or so
[05:15] <Omnifrog> they had it on the shelves for 2 weeks before they could even sell it
[05:15] <cyberanger> Longer than that, it was July 2nd
[05:16] <Omnifrog> it wasn't actually on the shelves in july
[05:17] <cyberanger> They had a glitch (I used to work there, still talk to some of the former coworkers) that I don't fully understand.
[05:17] <cyberanger> I think their systems got an audit and found that it allowed some sales outside compliance or something like that.
[05:17] <Omnifrog> wal mart replaced their snack isle about 2 weeks before it was legal
[05:18] <Omnifrog> you in logistics?
[05:19] <cyberanger> They had the wine out, but signs up forbidding the sale, didn't stop the shoplifiting, there's more of a shoplifting issue than there used to be too now.
[05:19] <cyberanger> so they cleared the shelf, and during that time it was in back, but something else happened with the registers involving sale compliance is what I understand.
[05:20] <cyberanger> In a way, yes, I've worked IT, InfoSec, Retail and I've been a Truck Driver (I guess you could call that logistics)
[05:21] <Omnifrog> well, either way I am pretty fucking tired of the ban on weed
[05:21] <Omnifrog> state governments have already tipped their hands
[05:22] <Omnifrog> it's not fucking dangerous
[05:22] <Omnifrog> like we didn't know that already
[05:22] <cyberanger> Omnifrog: Right now I'm "technically" unemployed, I was in job training for a trucking firm when this family matter came up, they couldn't hold me on LOA for more than a week or two (I think they could have, unpaid and all but okay)
[05:22] <cyberanger> I'm told I call my recruiter again and bingo, I'm back, still annoying.
[05:24] <Omnifrog> I could not even imagine driving a big rig
[05:25] <Omnifrog> I've tried to drive large vehicles
[05:25] <cyberanger> I've got mixed feelings on it, but in the end tax it and keep it away from me and all good. (Even in CO, if I'm tested and it shows up, DOT bars me for any CDL job and more)
[05:26] <cyberanger> I love IT, but when Sales Reps, Product Managers and Support makes the hobby a horrible job, time to cut bait and run.
[05:27] <cyberanger> I hate Retail (not all bad, but it's just not worth it)
[05:27] <Omnifrog> I drove a 24 something foot Uhaul towing a trailer with a car on it
[05:28] <Omnifrog> across the country
[05:28] <cyberanger> Driving, I can do that, large vehicles aren't easy, people shake my nerves a bit too, but dispatch gives me a load, do it and get another
[05:28] <cyberanger> submit my vehicle inspection report, a little other paperwork too, and sleep
[05:28] <Omnifrog> are you as drunk as I am?
[05:29] <cyberanger> I'd rather get back into IT with a good firm, don't know what a good firm looks like though.
[05:30] <cyberanger> Nope, I've got that I can't sleep but am tired thing going on though.
[05:31] <Omnifrog> dink
[05:31] <Omnifrog> it helps
[05:31] <Omnifrog> lol
[05:32] <cyberanger> I've not had a drop in awhile, Company policy with training, I don't think anyone would fault me at the moment (and I'm pretty sure my LOA ended yesterday anyway)
[05:32] <cyberanger> I'm just being extra careful, both with family and with the job.
[05:32] <Omnifrog> well... I've ha a lot of drops
[05:33] <Omnifrog> as you can tell by my typing skills
[05:33] <Omnifrog> and it's fucking awesome
[05:34] <Omnifrog> I'm going to be 50 in a short while
[05:34] <Omnifrog> 50!
[05:35] <Omnifrog> how the hell do I bold 50
[05:35] <Omnifrog> _50_
[05:35] <Omnifrog> grab life by the pussy
[05:36] <Omnifrog> cause that's what we do mow
[05:36] <Omnifrog> now
[05:36] <Omnifrog> balls are out
[05:37] <cyberanger> I've got awhile before that (sorry) but certainly never a bad idea to squander the time we have