[00:05] <Gilneral>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-47-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 8 x AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1,40GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,8GiB, 85,0% free ** Disk: Total: 772,4GiB, 6,4% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 9m 1s
[00:05] <Gilneral> **
[00:06] <hggdh> Gilneral: please disable this hardware announcement here
[00:07] <Gilneral> sorry, I pressed a wrong button
[00:08] <bjpenn> Ben64: what if the package was installed with a pinned version?
[00:08] <bjpenn> Ben64: if i installed a specific version of a package, thats not the most updated one, would it also update it?
[00:10] <bekks> bjpenn: if you pinned a version, it will not be updated.
[00:10] <bekks> bjpenn: thats what pinning is for.
[00:15] <tgm4883> How can I put an apparmor profile in complain mode if it doesn't have a path? Specifically, I see some libvirt VMs I'm trying to put into complain mode but it just lists the libvirt uid
[00:17] <tgm4883> nm, figured it out. You just list the full path to the profile
[00:18] <ubuntu-mate> hullo
[00:19] <lordcirth> ubuntu-mate, hi
[00:19] <ubuntu-mate> should change it to what I use on linuxmint
[00:21] <ralph22> Is there a support channel for ubuntu?
[00:22] <blue_cheese> am installing 16.10 ATM
[00:22] <lordcirth> ralph22, this is it
[00:25] <dStruct> lordcirth: I was able to do it, the CompizConfig Settings Manager's Window Placement plugin works perfectly
[00:25] <lordcirth> dStruct, nice
[00:26] <dStruct> lordcirth: now I can stare at 15 F'ing terminals lol, at some point I should probably buy some extra displays
[00:27] <ralph22> Thank you which ubuntu should i install on a mini computer it is a zotac zbox 83 with intel core i3 when the normal version keeps crashing?
[00:28] <lordcirth> ralph22, Xubuntu is nice and light.
[00:29] <ralph22> Thank you does it also support different drivers?
[00:31] <ralph22> Because i think the problem is with the hardware.
[00:32] <lordcirth> ralph22, all Ubuntu flavours use the same drivers. What is the problem?
[00:33] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[00:34] <ralph22> Other than the crashing the wifi does not work nor some of the ports.
[00:35] <lordcirth> Bray90820, run the disk's self-check
[00:35] <cimmm> Hey looking for a tip on guest Windows OS - Will I see much performance difference between 7 & 10 for Adobe CC?
[00:35] <lordcirth> ralph22, google your wifi adapter model + "ubuntu"
[00:35] <lordcirth> cimmm, I don't think that's an Ubuntu question
[00:35] <Bray90820> lordcirth:  Will do it will prob come up clean tho
[00:36] <cimmm> lordcirth: might you point me to a more VM-centric channel?
[00:36] <EPOi01> when i open terminal or any program else it turns to black screen , how could i fix it
[00:38] <EPOi01> when i open terminal or any program else it turns to black screen , how could i fix it
[00:39] <lordcirth> cimmm, sounds more like a question for ##windows
[00:39] <lordcirth> EPOi01, the program goes black or the whole screen?
[00:39] <ralph22> Thank you.
[00:40] <EPOi01> Lordcrith ,The program
[00:41] <promet> I have an sdcard that 'df -h' shows to be full (~128GB), but baobab reports at 11.6GB (what it should be)
[00:41] <cimmm> lordcirth: in relation to my hardware I know the answer, I'm curious about running as a VM client specifically
[00:41] <promet> does anyone have any idea how to have it detect correctly?
[00:44] <dStruct> EPOi01: and is there a little text prompt in the top left corner?
[00:47] <Ben64> promet: pastebin both "df -h" and "du -hd0 <the mountpoint>"
[00:47] <OzzieKlunk> Toronto60
[00:52] <promet> Ben64, Thanks! 'df -h' http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483301/  -- 'du -hdo /dev/sdd1' http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483305/
[00:53] <Ben64> /dev/sdd1 isn't the mountpoint
[00:53] <rexwin_> I am trying to run a scp job using cron and it doesnot run as specified scp -P 1926 /root/backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz DB01-ASSIDUOUS+vv@${DB}:~/
[00:54] <rexwin_> what is wrong with my cronjob?
[00:54] <Ben64> put it in a script and run the script instead
[00:54] <rexwin_> testing.sh contains a single line scp -P 1926 /root/backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz DB01-ASSIDUOUS+vv@${DB}:~/
[00:54] <rexwin_> so you want me to add the shebang line
[00:55] <promet> ben64, roger that, just a moment
[00:55] <rexwin_> running ./testing2.sh successfully scp's but not through cron job
[00:57] <wedgie> where's DB being set?
[00:57] <rexwin_> asking me?
[00:57] <wedgie> yes
[00:57] <rexwin_> DB01-ASSIDUOUS is the hostname of the windows machine running cygwin
[00:58] <rexwin_> running ./testing2.sh directly successfully scp's but not through cron job
[00:58] <rexwin_> testing2.sh contains a single line scp -P 1926 /root/backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz DB01-ASSIDUOUS+vv@${DB}:~/
[00:58] <Ben64> you didn't answer the question
[00:58] <wedgie> right. So where's the variable "DB" being set? You use that as the hostname that you're SCPing to.
[00:59] <rexwin_> it is set in alias file
[01:00] <wedgie> that alias file probably isn't being read by the cron process
[01:00] <promet> Ben64, it dawns on me that this might not be useful? Due to its being encrypted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483317/
[01:00] <rexwin_> how to make it read, wedgie?
[01:00] <wedgie> so either source it directly from in your script, or set the server name explicitly
[01:00] <rexwin_> use source before the command in the one line script
[01:00] <kkerwin> Hi all. I am running Ubuntu 16.10, and am unable to connect via WiFi on my Broadcom 43142. Can I get any help?
[01:01] <wedgie> . /path/to/aliasfile
[01:01] <cfhowlett>  !broadcom | kkerwin
[01:01] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | kkerwin
[01:02] <Ben64> promet: idk about encrypted stuff
[01:02] <wescotte> Any grub gurus around? I'm trying to dual boot Windows 10/Ubuntu and running into problems. It's an UEFI/EFI machine... Grub was failing to install but I was able to use boot-repair to install it. However, I had no grub.cfg... I booted via prompt and got into Ubuntu and ran update-grub and produced a grub.cfg that seemed to detect my Windows 10. Copied that grub.cfg into my efi/ubuntu folder and now i get a boot menu. H
[01:02] <wescotte> owever, the only one that works is Ubuntu.
[01:02] <kkerwin> !broadcom
[01:02] <wescotte> "Windows EUFI bkpbootmgfw.ef"  produces a "error: premature end of file (hd1, gpt1)
[01:02] <cfhowlett> kkerwin, there used to be a bot but it might be sleeping.  let me find the ink
[01:02] <kkerwin> Blah, not seeing message ... ya
[01:02] <wescotte> "Windwos Boot Manager (on /dev/sda1)" same error but /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[01:02] <kkerwin> Thanks, guys
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !bcm
[01:03] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, wait, what? bmc?  that's ... less than intuitive          :)
[01:04] <XenophonF> kkerwin: you're going to have to connect a wired interface and download some additional firmware/drivers for the wifi interface, with specific instructions located at the URL referenced by our esteemed colleagues above
[01:05] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Our bot often leave me thoughtles :)
[01:07] <Bashing-om> kkerwin: One quick and dowm for bcm that might be productive: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343228 (Hadaka) .
[01:07] <promet> Ben64, thanks very much for your time though. Could give me a notion of what that command might report "normally"? might give me a clue...
[01:12] <breezy_> whenever there is a window that is popped out, i am trying to go to "file" but the only way i can get it is to maximize the window.... is there anyway to do it so i dont have to maximize the window every single time i want to go to "file"
[01:14] <wedgie> breezy_: maximized or not, the file menu should be available in the top left of the screen (assuming unity)
[01:15] <breezy_> oh i figured it out.
[01:15] <breezy_> just gotta go to settings... it wasnt on mouse hover
[01:18] <Bray90820> lordcirth: It shows now errors when I check the USB
[01:23] <karlw> exit
[01:23] <karlw> :quit
[01:29] <Saklovich> Are kernel updates generally only recommended if there a problem on your system you're trying to fix?
[01:29] <Ben64> no, you should update often
[01:30] <cfhowlett> Saklovich, is there some reason to avoid updating?
[01:30] <Saklovich> cfhowlett: fear of breaking my system, I need it for work
[01:30] <Saklovich> Having to reinstall would be a huge setback
[01:31] <cfhowlett> Saklovich, ?  reinstall?  at worst, reboot to the previous kernel.
[01:32] <Saklovich> cfhowlett: I am currently on 4.6.2, you would recommend upgrading to the latest stable release 4.8.8?
[01:34] <cfhowlett> Saklovich, to the extent that my use case/experience is relevant to yours, yes.  FWIW, I have been running LTS only since 12.04, I do full-upgrade daily and have yet to experience a kernel breakage.
[01:34] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[01:35] <Saklovich> cfhowlett: thank you
[01:35] <TheMarius> still no unity 8 ... 7.5 is default
[01:35] <TheMarius> unity 8 as "beta alt. login"
[01:35] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Saklovich
[01:35] <TheMarius> im sticking with mint 18
[02:05] <Guy1524_> hey guys, I forgot, what is the name of the program that boots up in a live usb and installs ubuntu for you?
[02:06] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, startupdiskcreator
[02:06] <Guy1524_> no the program that boots from the live usb to install ubuntu for you
[02:06] <cfhowlett> ... installer?
[02:06] <Guy1524_> (takes your through configuration like timezone, partitions, keyboard layout, etc.)
[02:06] <Guy1524_> no I remember there being a specific name
[02:07] <Guy1524_> I want to port it to windows
[02:09] <Guy1524_> do you atleast know where I could find the source for it?
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Please don't tell me you mean Wubi...
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !wubi
[02:09] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, start the ubuntu usb in "try ubuntu" mode, right click on the "install ubuntu" program and read the properties.  and no GOD NO not wubi.
[02:09] <hopeshare> I'm trying to upload php files to the server of ubuntu, I have closed the ports of ftp, I think I have to use only git to upload the files to the server
[02:10] <hopeshare> I have created ssh + key and I access the server using putty
[02:12] <Guy1524_> cfhowlett: what is wrong w/ wubi?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, dead, unsupported for years, and WILL! break ubuntu 12.04 +
[02:13] <Guy1524_> im not using it, Im trying to create something similar to it
[02:13] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, good luck with that
[02:13] <Guy1524_> thx
[02:13] <wedgie> hopeshare: ... so what's the question?
[02:14] <hopeshare> wedgie, I have some problem in uploading my files
[02:14] <Guy1524_> where can I find a list of all installed programs on a filesystem
[02:14] <hopeshare> thanks for the respons
[02:14] <hopeshare> response
[02:14] <Guy1524_> atleast all installed through apt
[02:14] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, dpkg -l
[02:14] <Guy1524_> no off a filesystem
[02:14] <hopeshare> I don't know how to do that
[02:14] <wedgie> Guy1524_: chroot to it first?
[02:15] <Guy1524_> k
[02:15] <wedgie> hopeshare: sounds like you want scp or sftp.
[02:15] <hopeshare> wedgie, I now access my server using ssh + key
[02:16] <hopeshare> but I only can write command
[02:16] <hopeshare> I want a way to send files from my machine to the server
[02:16] <Guy1524_> that worked thanks
[02:16] <wedgie> hopeshare: you want winscp or filezilla. Google "sftp client" and you'll find a few
[02:16] <srt3ch> hola
[02:16] <wedgie> hopeshare: it's like FTP, except that it is secure and runs over SSH
[02:17] <Guy1524_> found it!
[02:17] <Guy1524_> its called ubiquity
[02:18] <Guy1524_> now im thinking, could I run ubiquity on the windows 10 ubuntu interface
[02:18] <Guy1524_> if so, that would be hilarious imo
[02:20] <absurdist> why udevadm creates nic entries with the same mac adress after reboot?
[02:20] <absurdist> thats garbage
[02:21] <absurdist> 70 persistent rules after reboot two entries with the same mac
[02:21] <JohnMcClain> I've been using LatexRender to write math equations. The quality isn't good enough (a bit fuzzy). Is there anything mainstream I could use to create Latex PNGs?
[02:23] <hopeshare> wedgie, I have installed the google sftp client and I tried to connect and it's saying that connection closed
[02:24] <wedgie> hopeshare: it uses the same credentials as your ssh login
[02:24] <hopeshare> I should select the ssh and add key
[02:24] <wedgie> yes
[02:37] <cfhowlett> Guy1524_, to each his own.  for my use, ubuntu = main OS and I have win7 in a virtualbox for RARE occasions when I need it.
[02:38] <JohnMcClain> pgf is a good way to start?
[02:38] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having difficulty connecting my BCM43124 to WiFi  (broadcom). I have rebuilt bcmwl-kernel-source with no luck. Can I get some help?
[02:39] <TheMarius> how are ubuntu for toutch screens? have a surface pro 3
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !touch | TheMarius
[02:40] <TheMarius> nice yes but have anyone here tested it on a similar device?
[02:40] <TheMarius> so its not in beta stage
[02:40] <wedgie> JohnMcClain: #latex may be a good place to ask about that
[02:40] <cfhowlett> TheMarius, see the note about #ubuntu-touch = ask in that channel.
[02:40] <TheMarius> nice tanx
[02:41] <JohnMcClain> wedgie: thanks!
[02:51] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having difficulty connecting my BCM43124 to WiFi  (broadcom). I have already followed ubottu's instructions on the topic, and I rebuilt bcmwl-kernel-source with no luck. Is there anyone available available to help, please?
[02:54] <ubuntu-mate> hi. If i download package with nvidia driver through synaptic, can i, while offline install driver with GUI "additional drivers"?
[02:54] <icedwater> Hold on, kkerwin, sounds like a niche thing you might have to wait a while for.
[02:55] <icedwater> ubuntu-mate: I don't think I fully understand your question, but I guess not. Can't remember how much of those additional drivers you need to fetch online.
[02:57] <kkerwin> icedwater: Sounds about right. I tried seeing if there is a #broadcom channel, but can't find one.
 I think, if i place already downloaded driver in right place, it will have it in "cache".
[02:59] <JohnMcClain> If anyone cares, the keyword I was looking for is 'tex2png'
[03:00] <kkerwin> ubuntu-mate: was that for me?
[03:00] <icedwater> JohnMcClain: did it work well for you?
[03:00] <kenrin> kkerwin: did you try any of the other drivers?
 no, i think.
[03:01] <kkerwin> kenrin: No. Bcmwl-kernel-source was working until last night.
[03:02] <icedwater> ubuntu-mate: I don't think so, unless you know which drivers you have to install. Did you already download them before?
[03:02] <kenrin> Ah,  never used that one.  Had good luck with the firmware-b43-installer package though
[03:02] <JohnMcClain> icedwater: It seems to be what I needed. Not meaning to sound rude, just hoping if anyone ever searches their logs for it, they find it.
[03:03] <icedwater> JohnMcClain: yep, I know. IRC is like that. :)
[03:03] <kkerwin> I had a series of hard reboots trying to fix a filesystem problem. I hit the end button the toggles WiFi on/off on key board several times trying to access the BIOSn
[03:04] <kkerwin> Unfortunately, hitting the button now doesn't toggle it again
 i will: ( ubuntu-drivers devices | grep recommended ), download it package only, not install throught synaptic, backup it. And if i will ofline i will place backup in place, where program "additional drivers" hold it.
[03:10] <cfhowlett> kkerwin, my Dell had ctrl-f2 as the wifi trigger in windows.  However, this trigger did not function in buntu.  After years of rebooting to fix accidental triggers, I discovered that alt-f2 worked under buntu.  try the combos
[03:11] <kkerwin> cfhowlette: Thanks for the lead
[03:11] <cfhowlett> happy2help! kkerwin
 i see that Additional Drivers download it to place: /var/cache/apt/archives. So i think i can do it offline later!
[03:13] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[03:13] <Bray90820> I also tested the disc and no error were found
[03:16] <siva_machina> apperantly ttf-mscorefonts-installer has trouble installing. At least on 16.04
 try to check iso, rewrite disc and check it? how old your PC?
[03:27] <Bray90820> It's a surface 3 tablet
[03:27] <kkerwin> Looks like cfhowlett placed out. Alright. Tried all combinations of ctrl, alt, shift and F1-12. Looking for another lead to solve my Broadcom problem.
[03:29] <jon5000> hi. newly installed ubuntu 16.04 on a lenovo yoga 13.  Not recognizing the touchscreen in xinput.  anyone help?
[03:29] <jon5000> touchscreen not working *and* not showing up in xinput
[03:31] <icedwater> kkerwin: that's two problems, right, one with the wifi button and another with the kernel module?
[03:34] <kkerwin> Icedwater: I'm leaning onward. if I button a this int.  Used a kubuntu rescue disc last night during didn't have WiFi of it either
[03:35] <kkerwin> Damn auto correct. Leaning toward button problem.
[03:37] <icedwater> Hmm, OK
[03:39] <kostkon> kkerwin, is it hardware blocked?
[03:40] <kkerwin> How to tell? kostkon
[03:40] <kostkon> kkerwin, rfkill list
[03:42] <kkerwin> Confirmed. Hardware blocked. How to fix?
[03:42] <kostkon> kkerwin, try     rfkill unblock all
[03:42] <donofrio> how do I fix my system, I tried to update-pepperflash on 16.04 but I get this tinyurl.com/h57ahu5 dpkg error?
[03:43] <kkerwin> kostkon: still blocked
[03:44] <kostkon> kkerwin, try with sudo as well you never know
[03:44] <kkerwin> Yep. Still blocked with sudo
[03:46] <kostkon> kkerwin, what's your laptop
[03:47] <kkerwin> kostkon: Toshiba C55-C5240.
[03:48] <kkerwin> And yes, "C" in a Toshiba model number so far crappy.
[03:48] <kkerwin> Is for ***
[03:49] <lordcirth> donofrio, says on that page, it's a bug, fix is in progress
[03:50] <kostkon> kkerwin, looking at your laptop's keyboard what about FN+F12?  http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTA4WDEyODg=/z/JEEAAOSw6n5Xs2N0/$_57.JPG?set_id=8800005007
[03:52] <kkerwin> kostkon: Nope. Tried it again. The Fn key makes it F12 and not WiFi toggle
[03:52] <donofrio> lordcirth, im 32 bit
[03:53] <kostkon> kkerwin, and pressing F12 doesn't do anything either
[03:54] <kkerwin> kostkon: correct
[03:54] <lordcirth> kostkon, is the Fn key broken?
[03:54] <kkerwin> lordcirth: Just tested. Fn key is working
[03:56] <donofrio> lordcirth, my setup is apaste.info/BdQgp
[03:57] <kostkon> kkerwin, are you dual booting?
[03:57] <lordcirth> donofrio, sorry, no idea
[03:57] <hanasaki> anyone have a spamassassin config file I can use?
[03:58] <kkerwin> kostkon: nope
[04:01] <kkerwin> Kostkon: I found a diagnostic script. Stand by
[04:05] <kkerwin> kostkon: And the script is too buggy to run
[04:06] <Guy1524_> why do the ubuntu developers want everything to be a snap and move away from apt/dpkg?
[04:06] <Guy1524_> aren't some programs more suited to the old style?
[04:06] <Guy1524_> also, wouldn't running everything in a snap slow the computer down significantly
[04:08] <Guy1524_> I mean, the way I see it, they having a fast, but somewhat unsecure OS, and instead of just making it more secure, they run everything in a container
[04:11] <donofrio> lordcirth, Ubuntu bug id#1575720
[04:12] <kostkon> kkerwin, check this thread http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/44040-43-wireless-function-working-toshiba-satellite
[04:12] <lordcirth> Guy1524_, containers aren't just about security.  They are about portability and reproducibility
[04:15] <kkerwin> kostkon will give that a try
[04:24] <donofrio> how do you *un*"dist-upgrade ?
[04:25] <dottypot> i neede to remove a load of apple .DS and ._ files from Xubuntu. The commands I find in searches aren't working or are giving permission errors. I am terrified I am going to delete something imporant. can someone help?
[04:25] <dottypot> https://serverfault.com/questions/154114/how-to-remove-files-in-a-directory-ubuntu and a few similar commands are found often but not working for me
[04:26] <lordcirth> donofrio, you don't, generally.  Why?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> donofrio, if you are trying to "roll back" ... nope.
[04:26] <cfhowlett> dottypot, is this dual booting on a mac?  why do you have .DS on your ubuntu system?
[04:27] <donofrio> ok how to fix this pepperflash issue then?
[04:27] <dottypot> no they are files I brought over to Xubuntu from an external drive
[04:27] <cfhowlett> dottypot this was a MAC external drive, yes?
[04:27] <dottypot> cfhowlett: it was two fat32 external drives I manually moved files into and off of
[04:28] <dottypot> i just noticed them when checking some hidden files and when moving them to my phone as it cluttered things up...i'd like to remove all the unneccesarry apple files
[04:30] <cfhowlett> dottypot, open a terminal and do dpkg -l | grep DS
[04:30] <cfhowlett> should return nothing
[04:30] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I guess one of those commands DID work as most of the files re gone...I assumed the errors meant it didnt work
[04:30] <dottypot> ok following your direcitons
[04:32] <dottypot> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23483858/
[04:32] <kkerwin> kostkon: that trick is done. Waiting or fsck to finish on subsequent boot
[04:32] <cfhowlett> dottypot, that returned with grep DS ?  not grep ds?
[04:32] <dottypot> yes
[04:32] <kostkon> kkerwin: ok
[04:32] <dottypot> i cut and pasted your command
[04:33] <cfhowlett> dottypot, I think you're good to delete but do so carefully and ensure you are not killing buntu files
[04:33] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I think I already did it...the ._ files are all gone
[04:34] <cfhowlett> cool
[04:34] <dottypot> cfhowlett: when I did the command it gave several permission errors. I thought it meant it didn't work
[04:34] <dottypot> cfhowlett: would any linux files use "._" or are those only Apple?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> dottypot, well if you escalated your privileges that would do it.  sudo rm -r *-DF
[04:35] <cfhowlett> dottypot, I have never seen an ubuntu ._ but they could exist
[04:35] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I still have .DS_Store files so do I need to do another command?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> dottypot, yeah you can explicitly delete those
[04:36] <dottypot> cfhowlett: how to I find them first? is
[04:37] <dottypot> find -name ".DS_Store" -print is that ok?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> dottypot, go for it
[04:38] <dottypot> yeah that worked. Now which command to delete them? And to be sure it deletes all in system not just directory I am in?
[04:38] <dottypot> i entered two or three before and have no idea which one did it as I am an idiot
[04:38] <kkerwin> kostkon: That fixed it. Thanks!
[04:39] <cfhowlett> dottypot, hit your up arrow key and they'll return
[04:40] <dottypot> cfhowlett: I am saying I don't know which command actually worked...they all resulted in permission errors so I thought that meant they werent removing anything
[04:40] <dottypot> what is the proper way to remove all ._ or .DS_Store files for example?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> dottypot, "proper"? :)  you could first search with find . -name .DS_Store*     and pipe that to rm
[04:41] <cfhowlett> or vice versa
[04:41] <kostkon> kkerwin: glad to hear. Now you need to do something about those fsck errors
[04:41] <donofrio> ok how to fix this pepperflash issue then?
[04:42] <dottypot> cfhowlett: i read I should use / instead of . because / will find all on system...is that not right?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> dottypot, exceeds my command line fu.  read the man page for rm
[04:43] <kkerwin> Duly noted. Will get that done on my next reboot
[04:43] <lordcirth> dottypot, find / will search everything, yes
[04:43] <kkerwin> Thanks again
[04:43] <lordcirth> dottypot, please do a dry-run before piping find to rm, as a good habit :)
[04:47] <agent_white> "user has disconnected"
[04:47] <agent_white> ;)
[04:58] <donofrio> anyone use pepperflash after running dist-upgrade?
[04:58] <bottypot> when trying to use the find command I get permission errors for some folders...why? find: ‘./.cache/dconf’: Permission denied find: ‘./.gvfs’: Permission denied find: ‘./.dbus’: Permission denied
[04:59] <bottypot> I tried find . -name "._" -print and find / -name "._" -print
[04:59] <lordcirth> bottypot, some special directories have unreadable files.  It's ok
[05:00] <bottypot> if I do sudo with . it just returns user prompt...if I do sudo with / i get this find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[05:00] <bottypot> that ok?
[05:02] <bottypot> so I wanted to get rid of all of these OSX ._ files and I ran find / -name "._" -delete and it returned several permission denied lines and then went back to the user prompt
[05:02] <bottypot> did I do it correctly?
[05:02] <bottypot> i saw some ways with rm -rf and various punctuations etc...
[05:02] <bottypot> dont know what is best way
[05:04] <bottypot> lordcirth: is the -delete way better or this command : find . "-name" "._" -exec rm {} \;
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> hi
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> bottypot: Yes
[05:04] <lordcirth> bottypot, -delete is simpler.  But again, dry run!
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> bottypot: Also no need to quote the args
[05:04] <bottypot> AlecTaylor: it wasnt a yes or no quesiton..i dont udnerstand
[05:04] <bottypot> lordcirth: how do you do a dry run?
[05:04] <AlecTaylor> -delete
[05:05] <hopeshare> hey community, I have installed https://configserver.com/ on my ubuntu server and I think my ip is blocked because of many times trying to use ssh+key
[05:05] <bottypot> so -delete is better than -exec rm {} |; right?
[05:05] <AlecTaylor> yes
[05:05] <hopeshare> can someone tells me how to delete my ip from blocked list
[05:06] <AlecTaylor> Who's blocked list?
[05:06] <lordcirth> bottypot, just run find without the -delete or rm and it should list all the files that it would delete
[05:06] <hopeshare> firewall https://configserver.com/
[05:06] <bottypot> AlecTaylor: thanks. what is the difference? does one do different things or just two ways for same thing?
[05:06] <hopeshare> I was trying to connect using filezilla manytimes and I think that the server blocked my ip
[05:07] <lordcirth> bottypot, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10923163/ever-try-to-delete-files-with-unix-shell-find-use-the-delete-option
[05:07] <hopeshare> cause I'm no longer being able to connect using putty
[05:07] <bottypot> lordcirth: is "._" going to find all files starting with that or do I need "._*"?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, filezilla is unlikely to block you.  your ISP however ...
[05:08] <bottypot> i read the * is "wildcard" and can mess things up?
[05:08] <hopeshare> actually I'm using vultr and I'm now accessing the server from the website not from my putty

[05:08] <hopeshare> AlecTaylor>
[05:08] <aus_mal> hi, is there any account-plugin-* for windows live available?
[05:09] <lordcirth> bottypot, * is wildcard, it may mess things up if you use it wrong?  Just make sure you quote it so bash doesn't expand it
[05:09] <bottypot> ok thanks
[05:11] <AlecTaylor> hopeshare: You want to do stuff like `find -type d -delete` avoid `exec` if you can, but avoid `|` even more
[05:11] <bottypot> lordcirth: does "._" got all files with ._ in the name?
[05:11] <AlecTaylor> How do I move my extended partition to the right? - I want a large primary partition. - http://i.imgur.com/BVVG7WG.png
[05:12] <bottypot> like would it find ._file and ._abc?
[05:12] <lordcirth> bottypot, it should, yes
[05:12] <lordcirth> bottypot, test it yourself, use 'touch' to create any file you like
[05:12] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor, select it, format it, then join it to your other part
[05:12] <bottypot> lordcirth: are their any linux files that would contain ._ that I might not want to remove?
[05:12] <lordcirth> bottypot, as I said, run without -delete and see
 how you used this before https://configserver.com/index.html for firewall on the server?
[05:13] <bottypot> lordcirth: when I run it as -print I get tons of permission denied results
[05:13] <AlecTaylor> cfhowlett: I don't want to format anything, just move my extended partition to the unallocated space to the right, then expand my [only] primary partition
[05:13] <bottypot> hard to filter through
[05:13] <lordcirth> bottypot, 2> /dev/null
[05:13] <bottypot> lordcirth: i dont know what that means sorry
[05:13] <AlecTaylor> quiet the errors
[05:14] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor, expanding means you have to have something to expand.  pretty sure you cannot expand to unprepared, space but I could be wrong
[05:14] <lordcirth> bottypot, redirect '2' (standard error) to a black hole
[05:14] <lordcirth> find / -name '._' 2> /dev/null
[05:14] <AlecTaylor> cfhowlett: I can expand to it, but I can't expand and contract the other side
[05:14] <bottypot> lordcirth: is that just for the command right then or it persists?
[05:14] <stan_man_can> cccccceukthbrfegfcclvivgntkbvgbubjevlbtfjrrf
[05:14] <bottypot> and where do you put that...after the command?
[05:15] <bottypot> ok sorry missed your last post
[05:15] <lordcirth> bottypot, I just sent the full command ^
[05:15] <cfhowlett> AlecTaylor, clearly I don't use gparted frequently enough to give meaningful advice.  sorry.  someone else in channel will know
[05:15] <bottypot> lordcirth: nothig happens...it just gives me back the user prompt
[05:15] <bottypot> does that mean nothing found?
[05:16] <lordcirth> bottypot, yup
[05:16] <lordcirth> mine finally returned nothing as well.  Probably should have excluded the network mounts lol
[05:17] <bottypot> so if I want to delete all the apple files starting with ._ and .DM_Store from an external drive...I mount it and do "find / -name "._" -delete" for example?
[05:17] <bottypot> thats safe and not going to screw my backup drive?
[05:18] <hopeshare> AlecTaylor, hi I saw that the link isn't working but nginx is up
[05:18] <hopeshare> how to fix ths
[05:18] <hopeshare> this
[05:19] <hopeshare> http://45.32.109.244/
[05:19] <lordcirth> bottypot, after doing a dry-run, and if you are sure that deleting those won't break anything
[05:19] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, not sure what you expected but that site reads as "under construction".
[05:19] <cryptic_> hello everyone, would someone like to lend me assistance? I'm setting up a web server on my personal desktop and keep running into minor problems such as when i load my forums onto my web server it wont send out the activation emails for users when they register or recover password. If someone could help me set it up that would be awesome!
[05:20] <hopeshare> yes
[05:20] <bottypot> lordcirth: thanks. also you used ' instead of " to frame the file...does it matter which?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> cryptic_, might want to ask the #ubuntu-server        channel
[05:20] <lordcirth> bottypot, not really.  Habit from writing YAML all day
[05:20] <hopeshare> cfhowlett, I think my ip is blocked by the firewall
[05:21] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, I'm in Tokyo and I see it as under construction ... if it was blocked it would return a 404 error or similar
[05:23] <cryptic_> no one seems to be on the ubuntu server irc
[05:23] <joshfreck> Hi Ubuntu wizards, I just tried to do a release upgrade, 14.04->16.04, it stopped before downloading the release, but an `sudo apt-get upgrade` apparently upgraded everything to xenial without the OS, and my system won't boot into the normal GUI, but I was able to get into this terminal. So, help me get my computer back? :)
[05:23] <cfhowlett> hopeshare, assuming your internal firewall is blocking, see this: https://scottlinux.com/2012/08/25/how-to-manually-edit-ufw-rules-on-ubuntu-linux/
[05:24] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, sudo apt update && sudo apt-full upgrade  for starters
[05:25] <joshfreck> k, I haven't tried that yet. when I do `do-release-upgrade` it says I'm at the latest, would that change your recommendation?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, following that, sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:25] <AlecTaylor> How do I move my extended partition to the right? - I want a large primary partition. - http://i.imgur.com/BVVG7WG.png
[05:26] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, confirm current build with         cat /etc/issue
[05:26] <joshfreck> cfhowlett: real quick, `sudo apt-full upgrade`? I don't have that...
[05:26] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, sudo apt full-upgrade             details matter      oh, wait: if actually on 14.04 it would be  sudo apt dist-upgrade
[05:27] <cfhowlett> joshfreck, sudo apt full-upgrade             details matter      oh, wait: if actually on 14.04 it would be  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:27] <lordcirth> cfhowlett, if it's 14.04, he would need apt-get
[05:27] <usr13> AlecTaylor: sda2?
[05:27]  * cfhowlett feels effects of coffee ... fading
[05:27] <cryptic_> cfhowlette, seems no ones on that channel.
[05:27] <joshfreck> haha
[05:27] <usr13> AlecTaylor: or sda1?
[05:28] <usr13> AlecTaylor: Oh so you want to move sda2?
[05:29] <joshfreck> so, `dist-upgrade` looks like it wants to install 2GB of new stuff, before I start this, is it correct that once this is done, I'll still need a `do-release-upgrade`?
[05:29] <usr13> AlecTaylor: So why do you want to move it?  What is your end goal?
[05:31] <usr13> AlecTaylor: Basically, you just select it and click the move icon which looks like >|
[05:31] <cryptic_> cfhowlette, seems no ones on that channel.
[05:32] <usr13> AlecTaylor: And then you'll be able to slide it to the right.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> cryptic_, seems all their servers are flying fine then.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:32] <cfhowlett> ask here = someone may know
[05:32] <cryptic_> hello everyone, would someone like to lend me assistance? I'm setting up a web server on my personal desktop and keep running into minor problems such as when i load my forums onto my web server it wont send out the activation emails for users when they register or recover password. If someone could help me set it up that would be awesome!
[05:32] <usr13> AlecTaylor: But why?  What are you wanting to do?
[05:33] <cryptic_> To explain further my site needs mysql , php and of course all that its running nothing but simple machines open source forums software.
[05:40] <AlecTaylor> usr13: Tried that [obviously] - http://i.imgur.com/r3n150p.png
[05:41] <taofeng> hi
[05:42] <usr13> AlecTaylor: Change the 0 in Free space preceeding it to 105961 and Free space following to 0
[05:43] <usr13> AlecTaylor: But you might have to move sda5 first.
[05:43] <usr13> AlecTaylor: but again, what is your end goal?
[05:43] <usr13> AlecTaylor: What is it you are really trying to do?
[05:44] <Flannel> cryptic_: You're going to need to set up an email server.  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html
[05:44] <joshfreck> cfhowlett: I just ran `cat /etc/issue` and it is indeed 16.04...
[05:44] <usr13> AlecTaylor:  What is on these partitions?
[05:45] <usr13> ... anything?
[05:45] <Flannel> cryptic_: Another option would be to get the forums/PHP to send email via an external server.  That might be easy, or it might be a lot of work, I'm not too familiar with the behind the scenes details of how PHP sends emails.
[05:50] <donofrio> so pepperflash is dead ;(  punted and installed adobe-flashplugin and its working (not very multiarch though)
 it was a firewall issue, I used this command to remove my ip from the firewall https://www.liquidweb.com/kb/how-to-unblock-an-ip-address-in-csf/
[05:56] <hopeshare> thanks for your support
[05:58] <x_> n.net
[06:00] <hopeshare> AlecTaylor, thank you too
[06:04] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[06:04] <Bray90820> It's a surface 3
[06:08] <Vysty> I'm trying to get the resolution on a 2nd monitor at 1680x1050, I'm using "cvt 1680 1050" and "xrandr --newmode "x" <results>", however I'm getting an error message from doing it.
[06:08] <Vysty> Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[06:10] <Vysty> Anyone alive and kicking 'round these parts?
[06:11] <DanielPowerNL> I can't believe Ubuntu, the most popular distribution, and the one officially supported by Steam, still doesn't work out of the box with Steam. I've been searching around for the past 20 minutes trying to find the proper way to get around the swrast error on Intel. I've found dozens of different methods, many of which involve deleting system libraries, but there's no agreed upon best method.
[06:12]  * Rochvellon has no problems with steam
[06:12] <DanielPowerNL> Rochvellon, are you using open source or proprietary drivers?
[06:13] <DanielPowerNL> I'm not on obscure hardware. Just an Intel i7 with integrated graphics. Though the same issues occur on my desktop with an R9 270x with open source drivers. (Since it's not even possible to install the closed source drivers on new versions of Ubuntu anymore).
[06:13] <Rochvellon> well, I'm using nvidia GPU with proprietary drivers with an AMD CPU
[06:13] <DanielPowerNL> Arch and Solus have both included a steam-native-runtime package that fixes all of this. But I can't find anything similar for Ubuntu.
[06:16] <x_> t
[06:18] <FireStriker> Hi all
[06:22] <FireStriker> Is there a way to change the order of the os's in grub
[06:23] <bb0> i will summon a a union/struct packet with nibbles, pseudo struct hell, i will inject my packet AND YOU WILL WORSHIP
[06:23] <Bashing-om> !grub | FireStriker
[06:24] <bb0> plainly modified tcp octets
[06:24] <bb0> 8 bits each, with a nibble
[06:25] <bb0> can you prove the size of my tcp octets
[06:25] <bb0> 8 bits each
[06:25] <bb0> or does it have nibbles
[06:25] <bb0> at the end
[06:26] <JonelethIrenicus> i cant install anything via pip3 it is saying command not found whne using sudo, but it is avilable to my user
[06:26] <bb0> sudo is obsolete hence here after!
[06:26] <bb0> you will use su -c " "
[06:26] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: Basically in the grub config file " GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ' . in /boot/grub/hrub.cfg coubt the entry you wnat as the fegault boot enty, and change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to that number .
[06:26] <bb0> and delete your sudoers files
[06:27] <JonelethIrenicus> sudo: pip3: command not found
[06:27] <dmtd> hi all! so I did a bad thing. I just got a new hard drive. I did the fstab and setup a mount point and everything. Then i started copying data to the mount point...but wasn't thinking. I needed to reboot my box for the mount point to actually work. needless to say my drive is now showing as full. Where did the files go if the drive wasn't actually mounted?
[06:27] <bb0> sudo su?
[06:27] <bb0> su -c "command"
[06:27] <bb0> attackers may be in your sudoers files!
[06:27] <bb0> use su -c !
[06:28] <hateball> !behelpful | bb0
[06:28] <bb0> !offtopic
[06:29] <dmtd> bb0: I'm offtopic?
[06:29] <bb0> !offtopic
[06:29] <bb0> your ubuntu antics slander my rhel!
[06:30] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | bb0
[06:34] <wa2yne> hullo
[06:35] <wa2yne> I have a problem trying to install java
[06:36] <wa2yne> tried "su" to access root, and it asks for password, but refuses to accept the password I had set, or what I thought I set
[06:36] <FireStriker> I have a hp laptop with a AMD A6 5200 quad core 2.0ghz with a AMD Radeon HD 8600M 4 gb of ram. I am looking for a ubuntu flavour for gaming which is light weight, looks nice and is easy to use.
[06:38] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: With that criteria, may I suggest you check out xubuntu ?
[06:38] <wa2yne> would reinstalling ubuntu work to change the password? Or what?
[06:39] <FireStriker> Was thinking of going xubuntu have a good time with it on the older Toshiba I have revived
[06:41] <blue_cheese_rule> hullo?
[06:41] <blue_cheese_rule> where are all the brainy nerds?
[06:42] <Bashing-om> wa2yne: Be aware that the root account in ubuntu is disabled . It is sudo that gives you the power . To reset the password see: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[06:42] <blue-cheese> there, better
[06:43] <blue-cheese> wat, sud? Ok, I'll try that
[06:43] <blue-cheese> oops, dern typos
[06:44] <blue-cheese> "sudo"
[06:45] <blue-cheese> how to create a directory called java, to put java in
[06:45] <blue-cheese> I am an old fart, but do better at this stuff than many my age
[06:47] <mumixam> from shell prompt?
[06:48] <Mills888> mkdir /opt/java; cd /opt/java
[06:48] <Mills888> wget http://javadl.oracle.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=216424
[06:48] <Mills888> untar the bundle
[06:49] <Mills888> or
[06:50] <Mills888> apt-get --yes update; apt-get --yes upgrade; apt-get --yes install software-properties-common
[06:50] <Bashing-om> blue-cheese: Is not that directory in exostence ? .. see what results ' ls -al /usr/share/java ' .
[06:50] <Mills888> sudo apt-add-repository --yes ppa:webupd8team/java; apt-get --yes update
[06:50] <Mills888> echo debconf shared/accepted-oracle-license-v1-1 select true | debconf-set-selections  && echo debconf shared/accepted-oracle-license-v1-1 seen true | debconf-set-selections  && apt-get --yes install curl oracle-java8-installer ; apt-get clean
[06:51] <FireStriker> Bashing-om: do you happen to know how big the install for xubuntu is? I want to calculate game sizes to make the secondary partition
[06:52] <Mills888> if you need/want an explaination of those commands, just ask.
[06:52] <blue-cheese> mumixam from file directory was trying to create usr/java folder
[06:53] <blue-cheese> and am losing most of what is being typed to me
[06:53] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: Well .. that is a personal choice . use case determins. As a general rule 50 gigs . Saved games .. gets huge .
[06:54] <blue-cheese> there, copied and pasted into text editor
[06:54] <blue-cheese> will look see
[06:54] <Rarrikins> FireStriker: If you mean Xubuntu itself, Xubuntu 16.10 64-bit takes around 4 GB.
[06:56] <FireStriker> 4 gb nice
[07:00] <blue-cheese> okay, folder java is there, with a lot of stuff I know not waht is
[07:01] <blue-cheese>  and it won't  let me paste the jre file
[07:01] <angel-swe> How come an ubuntu can work more lazy than a windows 7 in same pc? did I make something wrong?
[07:03] <blue-cheese> BTW, it was not that the password was wrong, but that su instead of sudo was wrong
[07:03] <FireStriker> How easy is it to make the partition that Xubuntu is on bigger?
[07:03] <Ben64> FireStriker: fairly
[07:04] <blue-cheese> I need to look at the instructions on java site
[07:04] <FireStriker> So if I make it 124gb I can decrees the primary partition and make the Linux partition bigger with little hassle
[07:05] <blue-cheese> maybe I sould not use the rpm  version?
[07:05] <Ben64> blue-cheese: what are you trying to do
[07:05] <Mills888> The instructions on the java site are garbage.  If you are in the unbuntu channel, why are you asking about the RPM?
[07:06] <blue-cheese> trying to install java, need for a couple of java based chats
[07:06] <Ben64> !java | blue-cheese
[07:06] <blue-cheese> firefox tells I need to install java
[07:06] <Mills888> What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:06] <blue-cheese> 16.10
[07:07] <Mills888> desktop or server?
[07:07] <blue-cheese> I have two versions of java downlaoded
[07:07] <Ben64> blue-cheese: forget that and look at the page ubottu gave you
[07:07] <Mills888> Ubuntu server, or Ubuntu Desktop?
[07:07] <blue-cheese> downloaded^but I know to only install one
[07:08] <blue-cheese> mate desktop
[07:09] <blue-cheese> let me scroll up
[07:09] <NoCode> Is there a way to only get KDE apps in the KDE DE, and have Gnome apps in the Gnome DE?
[07:10] <Welastevil> hi  ubuntu people!
[07:10] <Welastevil>  good morning!
[07:10] <m1911> good evening
[07:11] <Rarrikins> Sorry, we're closed for lunch!
[07:11] <arjarjun> hello
[07:11] <arjarjun> https://youtu.be/efBHaSr5L6I?list=PLa93KYFnBVUxAkCI9FYzhK7kupulk6frF
[07:11] <arjarjun> visit my channel for python tutorials
[07:12] <arjarjun> i will post as much technical video
[07:12] <blue-cheese> I'll delete the rpm
[07:12] <arjarjun> join #python
[07:12] <m1911> anyone use i3 wm ?
[07:13] <blue-cheese> why is it that so many web sites use dinky sized fonts, and light, making it harder to read
[07:13] <Ben64> arjarjun: don't do that here
[07:13] <Welastevil> someone here using piratbay?
[07:13] <Ben64> Welastevil: not appropriate for this channel
[07:14] <arjarjun> what is this channel for
[07:14] <Welastevil>  Im trying al the links from Russia... any of the mirros sites doesnt work..
[07:14] <arjarjun> anyone can tell
[07:14] <Welastevil>  oh Im sorry...I thyed to find # piratbay or #torrent... did not find
[07:14] <Ben64> arjarjun: ubuntu support
[07:14] <blue-cheese> BTW, thankyou for nthe help
[07:14] <arjarjun> okk brother
[07:14] <FireStriker> What's going on here
[07:15] <Welastevil> I know!
[07:15] <arjarjun> how can i contribute
[07:15] <arjarjun> to ubuntu
[07:15] <arjarjun> anyone can tell
[07:15] <Welastevil> yeah
[07:15] <Welastevil> do you know why Nixie Pixel is not releasing new videos?
[07:15] <Bashing-om> !contribute | arjarjun
[07:15] <Ben64> Welastevil: still not on topic
[07:16] <FireStriker> !offtopic
[07:18] <McFlurry> ice cream!
[07:20] <McFlurry> yummy ice cream
[07:21] <maum> hello
[07:21] <McFlurry> Hello maum
[07:21] <maum> where is the tcp source?
[07:21] <maum> McFlurry: hello
[07:22] <McFlurry> maum: its in hell, where your mom sucks cocks.
[07:22] <McFlurry> anything else I can help you with?
[07:22] <maum> I need to find tcp source on ubuntu
[07:22] <McFlurry> okay
[07:22] <Rarrikins> maum: What do you mean by the TCP source?
[07:22] <McFlurry> but I do not use ubuntu
[07:23] <McFlurry> I do, however, eat ice cream!
[07:23] <maum> for example tcp_cubic.c or tcp_reno.c
[07:23] <maum> or tcp.c file location
[07:23] <hateball> Surprisingly many trolls at the same point in time, unless they are different personas of a troubled mind
[07:23] <McFlurry> hateball: what?
[07:24] <Rarrikins> maum: It's probably in the kernel source. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode for ways to get it.
[07:24] <McFlurry> I'm not a troll
[07:24] <maum> Rarrikins: Do I need to download it?
[07:25] <McFlurry> I am lilo, returning to confess that I faked my death because I needed a break from being stalked by trolls.
[07:25] <FireStriker> Um mods help this channel is going nuts and so far offtopic
[07:25] <angel-swe> did anyone even seen my question :)
[07:26] <Rarrikins> maum: It looks like there's a gitweb site for it.
[07:27] <maum> Rarrikins: Do I need to download it and compile and install it again to implement the modified tcp source?
[07:30] <Rarrikins> maum: Yes. Here are some answers on that: https://askubuntu.com/questions/227754/how-can-i-modify-the-kernel-when-i-already-have-ubuntu-running-on-my-machine
[07:30] <McFlurry> I am lilo.  I faked my death to get away from a troll who was stalking me.  That troll is now dead, so I am ready to return and reclaim my network.
[07:31] <maum> Rarrikins: Thanks for your help!
[07:31] <hateball> angel-swe: Feel free to repeat your question
[07:31] <Rarrikins> maum: No problem.
[07:35] <angel-swe> My ubuntu works slower than Windows 7 installed on same machine. Something feels wrong.. What shoudl I check?
[07:35] <hateball> angel-swe: Well first determine *what* is slower. Bootup, application load times? Or is it GUI responsiveness?
[07:35] <Rarrikins> maum: It looks like the files you mention might be kernel modules. According to https://www.quora.com/Linux-Kernel-How-can-I-compile-and-load-the-tcp-c-and-tcp_input-c-files you can compile just them without recompiling the entire kernel. It looks like https://askubuntu.com/questions/515407/how-recipe-to-build-only-one-kernel-module deals with that.
[07:37] <maum> Rarrikins: It is more helpful. I like to change tcp protocol and test.
[07:38] <angel-swe> hateball, Boot time is almost same... also Ubuntu comes up with that dotted background first on login screen than the real background comes up.. than you can type in your password not before..
[07:39] <blue-cheese> tyrns out that what I need is icedtea plugin, and after some searching, found it and am installing same
[07:39] <hateball> angel-swe: what GPU/driver are you using? Type "lspci -k" in a terminal, look for the VGA section
[07:39] <hateball> !paste | angel-swe
[07:40] <blue-cheese> now  t works fine
[07:41]  * blue-cheese is crazy
[07:41] <angel-swe> hateball, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484388/
[07:43] <hateball> angel-swe: so it appears you are using nouveau instead of nvidia blob, which might be preferable
[07:44] <hateball> angel-swe: unless the chipset is too old for any recent blobs, I am not sure
[07:45] <hateball> angel-swe: what's the output of "ubuntu-drivers devices"
[07:45] <angel-swe> hateball,  I don't even know what is nouveau and where it came from... shall I change it to nvidia driver?
[07:46] <hateball> angel-swe: nouveau is the open source driver, which for the most part "works" but it generally has lower performance compared to nvidia blob
[07:46] <hateball> angel-swe: You can try changing to nvidia driver using either driver gui, or running "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[07:46] <angel-swe> hateball, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484441/
[07:49] <bivo> Accidentally dropped a folder on an NTFS formatted HDD onto the trash in the side pane and it auto deleted, is there a way to get it back?
[07:49] <hateball> angel-swe: it seems 367 works with your card, so that's what I'd use
[07:51] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: nVidia also recommends the 367 driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/108586/en-us .
[07:51] <angel-swe> hateball, I hit the "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[07:52] <angel-swe> hateball,  would that install 367?
[07:54] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: What returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[07:56] <hateball> angel-swe: yes it should, as that is the recommended driver
[07:56] <angel-swe> Bashing-om,  nvidia-304
[07:56] <angel-swe> nvidia-340
[07:56] <angel-swe> nvidia-367
[07:56] <angel-swe> intel-microcode
[07:58] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: Then yes, I expect the installer to choose the 357 version driver .
[07:59] <angel-swe> Bashing-om, Did it choose already ? or I will chose rightnow?
[07:59] <tuxinator> hi everybody, just found out that ubumirror is broken (atleast the cdimage part) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Provisioning/Mirror does not work as it always tries to find "current" which does not exist
[08:00] <angel-swe> Before "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" > https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484441/  and after autoinstall > https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484462/
[08:00] <FireStriker> How do i install ubuntu on a win 8 eare laptop?
[08:00] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: do ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Reboot to see the effect .
[08:01] <angel-swe> Bashing-om,  hateball  already made me to "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[08:01] <angel-swe> shall I do again?
[08:02] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[08:02] <SirCmpwn> I've set up a xenial chroot with debootstrap and run `apt-get install server^`, along with build-essential and some other things
[08:02] <SirCmpwn> my eventually goal is a chroot I can compile chromium in
[08:02] <SirCmpwn> however, the script to install dependencies fails to find quite a few of them, things like elfutils, which I can find online in the ubuntu package website fine
[08:03] <SirCmpwn> have I missed a set in configuring this system?
[08:03] <hateball> angel-swe: you will also need to reboot for the driver to  actually load, but the dpkg command posted by Bashing-om will show if the right package has been installed before you do so
[08:03] <angel-swe> Bashing-om,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484485/
[08:05] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: You are good " ii  nvidia-367" where the "ii" is desired=installed. and status=installed .
[08:06] <hateball> angel-swe: you may also wish to "sudo apt install nvidia-settings" I am not sure if ubuntu-drivers pulls that in as well. but it's the proper config tool for the binary blob
[08:06] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: hateball " ii  nvidia-settings                                 367.35-0ubuntu1  " . installed :)
[08:07] <angel-swe> so no need
[08:07] <SirCmpwn> ah I just needed a quick apt-get update
[08:08] <SirCmpwn> need to do that after running tasksel it seems
[08:08] <Bashing-om> angel-swe: Correct .. reboot to see what ya have now for performance .
[08:10] <angel-swe> ok Let me see
[08:10] <angel-swe> brb
[08:21] <Sircle> $ sudo apt-get source squid          Reading package lists... Done
[08:21] <Sircle> Picking 'squid3' as source package instead of 'squid' E: Unable to find a source package for squid3
[08:28] <angel-swe> Hello again.
[08:28] <angel-swe> Ok guys here what happen after I reboot...
[08:29] <angel-swe> First "Ubuntu loading" (dots) screen coming up very ugly and pixelled... (like a photo made bigger but pixels are looking ugly)
[08:29] <angel-swe> than full screen NVIDIA logo screen
[08:30] <angel-swe> than 4 dots on the screen loading again...
[08:30] <angel-swe> and finally the Login screen
[08:31] <angel-swe> Also when I hit the power button a very fast screen comes with an error and dissappears...
[08:31] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, because nvidia-367 has no kms support, that's why it looks ugly until you login to X
[08:31] <hateball> angel-swe: What do you mean power button? This seems unrelated
[08:31] <angel-swe> the button you hit to run the pc
[08:31] <hateball> angel-swe: Can you log in to your desktop, and is it appearing normal?
[08:31] <angel-swe> DEsktop is fine
[08:32] <hateball> Right, so then the nvidia driver has installed and is working properly. Said ugliness during boot is known and will be fixed by later driver releases
[08:33] <hateball> angel-swe: So you are pressing your power button to bring up a shutdown menu or something?
[08:37] <swadhin> Hello everyone
[08:37] <angel-swe> hateball, WHen the pc is turned off and when I hit the power screen there is a screen shows up for a second with nvidia errors.. than dissappears
[08:37] <Karl__> Sorry, my internet bugged out, did someone reply to my question? Or did that one not even show? Having a bad connection here
[08:38] <swadhin> I need help :(
[08:38] <swadhin> on indicator icon size
[08:38] <Karl__> I was asking if it's possible to upgrade 14.04 to 16.x without having to download 16 and putting it on a cd/usb, I'd prefer something similar to apt-get update
[08:40] <swadhin> Yes
[08:40] <swadhin> You can do release upgrade
[08:41] <EriC^^> Karl__: sudo do-release-upgrade does that
[08:41] <Bashing-om> Karl__: If you are fully updated in 14.04 .. and PPAs reverted, no proprietary drivers in-use . then terminal command ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' to release-upgrade to 16.04/
[08:42] <Karl__> Alright, thanks! Will try that once I have a stable enough connection
[08:44] <swadhin> Few icons like flareget, Clementine looks huge in indicator. I am on Ubuntu MATE 16.10.
[08:50] <nikre> hi, what is the way to go for backing up a whole drive with multiple partitions?
[08:51] <nikre> is there a way so i get a single image with partition flags etc. ready?
[08:51] <Bashing-om> !backup | nikre
[08:51] <nikre> !cloning
[08:56] <dritto77> kjkl
[09:05] <dn`> Is there any offical boot image available that boots into some kind of rescue system - but with a running SSH daemon?
[09:05] <angel-swe> hateball, Why was loading dots showing very big? what nvdia did not support?
[09:05] <angel-swe> you as idk or something like that?
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: KMS
[09:06] <angel-swe> I see
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: means supporting proper resolutions and such in framebuffer, before you load X
[09:06] <angel-swe> no way to make it support right? like doing a setting or installing an extra pack something
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: later drivers (370) has some basic support
[09:06] <hateball> angel-swe: not yet no
[09:07] <angel-swe> hateball, my colleagua made a vide for you
[09:07] <angel-swe> to see how its booting
[09:07] <angel-swe> we just need to find a place to upload it
[09:08] <hateball> angel-swe: anyhow it's just cosmetic (unless you actually need to work in a tty) so it's not really something to care about
[09:08] <hateball> unless you like to show people how pretty the boot process is
[09:08] <Sircle> which one to install via dpgk -i ? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8928716
[09:10] <hateball> angel-swe: you can add the kernel parameter "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" if you like and see if that removes the errors. the driver still does not support resolutions over 1280 so bootsplash will be pixelated regardless
[09:11] <angel-swe> hateball, how kernel knows the error? btw it didn't come up at last boot
[09:11] <hemangpatel> Hi there
[09:12] <hemangpatel> How do i get date of next year in this format, 2016-06-14T00:00:00Z ?
[09:14] <angel-swe> hateball,  http://sendvid.com/cip72xz3
[09:16] <hateball> angel-swe: Yes, so no errors? Everything looks normal
[09:16] <angel-swe> you seen the video?
[09:16] <hateball> angel-swe: yes
[09:16] <angel-swe> isn't that so slow?
[09:17] <hateball> angel-swe: Booting you mean?
[09:17] <angel-swe> yeah
[09:17] <hateball> angel-swe: It is probably normal on an HDD
[09:17] <angel-swe> also there is a moment when "Login" screen comes up with that password field.. did you mention that the background changes?
[09:18] <hateball> angel-swe: Well that I don't know, I don't use Unity or LightDM myself
[09:19] <angel-swe> hateball,  I hatet my ubuntu after Nvidia installed... :(
[09:19] <ikonia> angel-swe: remove the boot splash - see what's going on
[09:19] <ikonia> angel-swe: that looks like your video card setup is killing your machine
[09:19] <angel-swe> I wish there was a way to load it to this morning when there was no nvidia
[09:20] <ikonia> angel-swe: remove the nvidia packages and disable it in xorg
[09:20] <hateball> angel-swe: Well you can of course revert to nouveau
[09:20] <angel-swe> hateball, How can I do that
[09:20] <hateball> But this whole thing started with you wanting a more responsive GUI
[09:20] <ikonia> I'd look behind the boot splash see if the time is being used configuing components
[09:20] <angel-swe> hateball,  I feel no change on GUI responsivity
[09:21] <ikonia> if thats the case you maybe able to improve it by pre-configuring those components
[09:22] <hateball> angel-swe: like ikonia said, try booting without splash
[09:22] <angel-swe> what is splash
[09:23] <hateball> angel-swe: when you are at the grub menu, edit the bootline and remove "quiet splash" from it
[09:23] <ptprince72> bonjour!
 angel-swe: that looks like your video card setup is killing your machine
[09:23] <ptprince72> bonjour!
[09:23] <hateball> !fr | ptprince72
[09:29] <angel-swe> ikonia, I loved the splash screen before I installed the NVdia drivers.
[09:30] <angel-swe> No KMS support looks ugly (thx hateball)
[09:30] <angel-swe> (thx to understand)
[09:31] <angel-swe> ikonia,  WHy did you said that "<ikonia> angel-swe: that looks like your video card setup is killing your machine"
[09:31] <dn`> I have a kinda ‘funny’ problem that I seem unable to figure out: When I install a new Server with 6 GPUs attached manual (text installer/server) - everything is fine, the machine boots and I have all my Ram (8GB); When I use the same install image - but install it via NetworkConsole and a minimal preseed file (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole) and do the rest by hand - after booting I got 426MB (total - not free,
[09:31] <dn`> really total) Ram. It seems to be related to the preseed, because that’s the last variable. I would assume it’s some setting that differs, but I can’t figure out which. - Anyone got a tip? I would asume tasksel, kernel - but I’m not sure to be honest
[09:32] <EriC^^> dn`: what does lshw -C memory show?
[09:32] <hateball> angel-swe: well, did you try using the boot parameter I suggested?
[09:32] <hateball> angel-swe: nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[09:32] <dn`> EriC^^: 2x4GB
[09:32] <angel-swe> hateball,  sorry I did miss that...
[09:32] <dn`> EriC^^: but e.g. /proc/meminof -> MemTotal:         436852 kB ;-)
[09:32] <angel-swe> let me see
[09:33] <angel-swe> hateball,  nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[09:33] <angel-swe> sorry
[09:33] <angel-swe> hateball,  nvidia-drm.modeset=1: command not found
[09:33] <dn`> EriC^^: same hardware with manual install (from the same medium, just fully manual - works), but as soon as I use any preeseeding - I got this problem; to make it even more fun - if I attach only e.g. 5 GPUs it’s okay ;-)
[09:33] <hateball> angel-swe: It's not a command you run in a terminal, you add that on the grub bootline. Same place you would remove "quiet splash"
[09:34] <angel-swe> well I don't know how to do that...
[09:34] <angel-swe> also I like the ubuntu splash. can't we keep it?
[09:34] <hateball> angel-swe: It tells you when you are on the boot menu... Press e to edit
[09:35] <angel-swe> oh ok
[09:35] <angel-swe> let me try
[09:35] <hateball> angel-swe: then you edit the line that ends with "quiet splash". make it "quiet splash nvidia-drm.modeset=1" first
[09:36] <hateball> angel-swe: if that still looks crappy etc, then you try removing "quiet splash" totally the next reboot, see if bootup time improves. if not it will at least show what's going on
[09:36] <hateball> angel-swe: these are temporary changes, if one works well you can make them permanent later so you dont have to do it manually each boot
[09:38] <angel-swe> ok
[09:38] <angel-swe> let me try
[09:38] <angel-swe> brb
[09:40] <l3s7r0z> Wssup
[09:40] <l3s7r0z> I saw some hacker installed Ubuntu on the new NES lol
[09:40] <l3s7r0z> Guys are crazy out there
[09:45] <angel-swe> hateball, I added the line you said... nothing really changed...
[09:46] <hateball> angel-swe: Did you try booting without "quiet splash" also? Did that change bootup times?
[09:48] <angel-swe> hateball, No i did not. Cause I was not sure if I should only delete quite splash or also the line you told me to add.
[09:49] <hateball> angel-swe: oh you would not add nvidia-drm.modeset=1 in the case of removing quiet splash
[09:50] <angel-swe> ok
[09:50] <angel-swe> let me try it
[09:50] <angel-swe> brb
[09:55] <lodiz> hi, anyone knows how to install xorg server 1.19? or when a package will be avalible?
[09:56] <FireStriker> Hi guys how do I install ubuntu on a windows 8 erier laptop
[09:57] <angel-swe> hateball, same booting time just with a black screen
[09:58] <angel-swe> how can I revert everything back..
[09:58] <angel-swe> to this morning... No nvidia driver...
[09:58] <angel-swe> remove the nvidia packages and disable it in xorg
[09:58] <hateball> angel-swe: "sudo apt remove nvidia-367" should do the trick
[09:59] <FireStriker> What do I to install AMD drivers?
[09:59] <ablest> system settings>software and updates>additional drivers tab
[10:00] <hateball> FireStriker: Do you mean amdgpu-pro ? Those only support a few chipsets, and you have to install manually from AMD
[10:00] <FireStriker> I have a apu and a gpu
[10:00] <angel-swe> hateball, Uninstall is complete... How do I disable it in xorg?
[10:00] <FireStriker> Laptop btw
[10:00] <FireStriker> 2013 laptop
[10:01] <ablest> me too but 2011 notebook
[10:01] <ablest> amd
[10:01] <hateball> angel-swe: the package should have removed the blacklisting of nouveau automatically
[10:01] <ablest> apu with radeon
[10:02] <angel-swe> hateball, Ok can I now simplry restart
[10:06] <angel-swe> hateball, hello again
[10:06] <dn`> how can I influence with ubuntu/or what does influence the mtrr settings? I got the problem that the mttr settings only cover ‘504MB’ instead of ‘7918’ available
[10:06] <hateball> angel-swe: hello
[10:06] <angel-swe> hateball,  Can we check if it's gone?
[10:06] <FireStriker> How do I dual boot ubuntu with win 8 (UEFI)
[10:07] <angel-swe> hateball, here https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484851/
[10:07] <angel-swe> this is current one.
[10:11] <angel-swe> Can some one paste the logs of last 1 hour?
[10:12] <angel-swe> to ubuntu pastebin
[10:12] <Ben64> !log | angel-swe
[10:15] <angel-swe> Ben64, thx but I dont see uduntu logs in thee.. so may starting with ubuntu but no ubuntu iteself
[10:15] <hateball> angel-swe: Well, if you have a working GUI and no nvidia blob installed then it should be fine. run "lspci -k" to see what module is in use
[10:15] <Ben64> angel-swe: it's there
[10:15] <hateball> !dualboot | FireStriker
[10:24] <angel-swe> hateball, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484894/
[10:24] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, see the VGA section: Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[10:25] <angel-swe> Ben64, MAybe it is but I can't find the right folder...
[10:26] <angel-swe> hateball,  so everything is like this morning.. thank you..
[10:26] <hateball> angel-swe: It should be, yes
[10:27] <angel-swe> hateball, Thank you for all support...
[10:28] <angel-swe> hateball, Can you take a look at this aswell before I leave..
[10:28] <hateball> angel-swe: heh, you're back at square 1, so
[10:28] <angel-swe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23484905/
[10:28] <joegiampaoli> Hello, upgrading to 16.04 clean install on my laptop. Installation is detecting my HD as /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda any hints, tips to make it detect it as sda?
[10:28] <angel-swe> hateball, I did but now I know that NVIDIA driver won't make any change of speed.
[10:29] <hateball> angel-swe: that looks like you have removed a metapackage and those packages have now lost their dependency
[10:29] <joegiampaoli> BTW I'm booting in Legacy mode not in UEFI mode from USB created with unetbootin...
[10:29] <angel-swe> so using "sudo apt autoremove" as it says would be good rigt
[10:29] <hateball> angel-swe: you probably do not want to remove dkms for instance
[10:30] <hateball> angel-swe: looks like you removed a kde/plasma related metapackage
[10:30] <ptprince72> coucou
[10:31] <angel-swe> hateball, So I shouldn't do "sudo apt autoremove" ??
[10:32] <ptprince72>  /join #ubuntu-qc
[10:32] <ptprince72>  /join #ubuntu-qc.
[10:32] <ptprince72> bonjour
[10:33] <angel-swe> ptprince72,  :)
[10:34] <angel-swe> ptprince72,  peste without space for jesus :p
[10:34] <hateball> angel-swe: some packages look like you wouldnt want to have removed... then again you dont need dkms if you only use opensource drivers for instance
[10:34] <hateball> I gotta go lunch tho, so... maybe someone else can take a look and make sure
[10:35] <angel-swe> hateball,  in this case I do no do autoremove
 angel-swe: you probably do not want to remove dkms for instance
[10:36] <angel-swe> that looks not safe.
[10:37] <angel-swe> Btw when it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:37] <angel-swe> " means that I am up to date?
[10:38] <joegiampaoli> Hello, upgrading to 16.04 clean install on my laptop. Installation is detecting my HD as /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda any hints, tips to make it detect it as sda?  BTW I'm booting in Legacy mode not in UEFI mode from USB created with unetbootin...
[10:40] <Zen> joegiampaoli: What drive does it think SDA is?
[10:40] <Zen> I mean.. probably the USB drive
[10:40] <Zen> sda/sdb/etc are just assigned at boot time and aren't guaranteed to be the same
[10:41] <joegiampaoli> Zen: So when I reboot after install it should default to sda?
[10:41] <Zen> Probably, why is it an issue?
[10:42] <joegiampaoli> Zen: I think it detected the USB as sda
[10:42] <Zen> You should be identifying drives by their UUID, not their device name
[10:42] <Zen> joegiampaoli: lsblk will show whats what
[10:42] <joegiampaoli> Zen: OK, so this will not cause any issues? Just names right?
[10:43] <Zen> Pretty much, just don't try and use drives by their /dev name for mounting and such, use their UUID
[10:44] <joegiampaoli> Zen: OK, thanks! I just wanted to make sure this wouldn't cause an issue with fstab...
[10:45] <Zen> joegiampaoli: as long as fstab is using UUIDs like it should be using then you'll be fine :)
[10:47] <Sircle>  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8928726 clueless with squid. I want to reject POST calls in https or filter/moniter with rules.
[10:48] <joegiampaoli> Zen: OK, Thanks! :)
[10:58] <somerandomguy222> Does anyone use iptables6?
[11:09] <Sircle> somepoortech: #iptables
[11:14] <angel-swe> "Chrome - Chromium - Fİrefox" wich one is mostly used by Linux users?
[11:25] <angel-swe> hateball,  still there? I found NVDIA X Server setting app inside the installed app list... This is part of NVIDIA driver that we installed this morning?
[11:26] <EriC^^> angel-swe: yeah
[11:26] <hateball> angel-swe: yes, you can safely remove nvidia-settings if you like
[11:27] <hateball> angel-swe: it's only used if you actually use the nvidia blob tho, so it doesnt cause any trouble just by existing
[11:27] <angel-swe> oh I wont be able to use them as long as I install the nvidia blob back right?
[11:29] <neredsenvy> I have a single boot, Ubuntu only a clean install. Worked all day yesterday did nothing but browse web, today I get: Error parsing PCC subspaces from PCCT
[11:29] <neredsenvy> Any ideas ?
[11:30] <neredsenvy> I tried nouveau.modeset=0 at the end of linux line in GRUB to no success.
[11:33] <hateball> neredsenvy: Can you try with an older kernel?
[11:33] <neredsenvy> hateball: How to ?
[11:34] <hateball> neredsenvy: hold left shift during boot to get to grub menu, it should have a list of kernels
[11:34] <hateball> neredsenvy: Perhaps you had a kernel update yesterday that broke things for you
[11:37] <hhee> hey!
[11:37] <hhee> does ubuntu has plugin for play short tiptip sound on key pressure?
[11:49] <Mufeu> Hey there
[11:49] <EriC^^> hi
[11:51] <Manuel2> What IRC client do you people use?
[11:52] <kuSuSE> konversation
[11:52] <thomas_> jhi
[11:52] <thomas_> hi all
[11:52] <kuSuSE> neckbeard certification requires you to use irssi though
[11:53] <thomas_> how do i install teamspeak on virtual box
[11:53] <kuSuSE> the same way you install it on your base machine?
[11:53] <Guest13632> hi all
[11:53] <Mufeu> I have an issue with my virtual ubuntu : I converted a Vsphere ovf to a VMware ovf and uploaded it on my ESX. The machine starts but fall into this well-known EMERGENCY MODE !! <angry> I came on this channel 'cause I saw a topic on archlinux with kind of like the same problem.. Here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=161774
[11:53] <Guest13632> how do i install teamspeak in virtual box in ubuntu
[11:53] <Mufeu> woops, wrong link : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2318779&p=13466943#post13466943
[11:54] <Manuel2> kuSuSE: thanks
[11:54] <Mufeu> but I can't use the apt-get 'cause the network is cut from the internet :s
[11:54] <kuSuSE> mufeu so use whatever gnome gives you? empathy?
[11:55] <Mufeu> Don't understand what you're saying kuSuSE :X
[11:56] <kuSuSE> what distro are you on? maybe it already comes with an irc client
[11:56] <Manuel2> kuSuSE I think you confused his nickname with mine
[11:57] <Manuel2> I am using HexChat, but I wanted to try out anything else popular here
[11:57] <kuSuSE> ah sorry
[11:57] <kuSuSE> I think hexchat is fine :3
[11:58] <dn`> my ‘mtrr settings’ are wrong depending on how I install (preseed or manual) - it’s always wrong when I use preseed - not that I set anything mtrr related - I end up with 504MB Ram instead of 8GB
[11:59] <nbusrone> anyone know what is keyring ? everytime I started chrome it asked for password to unlock keyring
[12:01] <thanzeon> REUP - Hi everyone! i'm trying to set up a virtual machine for some projects of mine, i'm using Ubuntu 16.10 64 bit, VMWare Workstation pro 12 and Win 10 with an Intel i7 6700 HQ. The installation and first run go as smooth as possible, however, after the first reboot within the first 10 / 15 seconds it appears a message saying "The CPU has been di
[12:01] <thanzeon> sabled by the guest operating system." no warnings or errors, the vm just freeze and i get the message from VMWare. This is the second time i do a complete reinstall of the vm. Any thoughts?
[12:01] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Is virtualization enabled in your BIOS?
[12:02] <Manuel2> You might want to check it in your BIOS settings. It should be enabled
[12:03] <thanzeon> in the bios of the host?
[12:04] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Yes
[12:04] <thanzeon> if it wasn't enabled shouldn't the vm just not start? i have other osx and windows vms that work just fine
[12:05] <Manuel2> thanzeon: True. Which one is the host OS?
[12:05] <hateball> nbusrone: keyring is where you can store your passwords to various applications
[12:06] <thanzeon> Manuel2: Win 10
[12:08] <Manuel2> thanzeon: https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2000542
[12:10] <Manuel2> kernel panic it says. Maybe you should try an older release, 16.04 LTS
[12:10] <thanzeon> Manuel2: sometimes it does not do that, just now it did not hang up
[12:10] <hhee> Manuel2, best irc client ever hexchat :)
[12:11] <Manuel2> hhee: I tried using Pidgin just now, but it felt cluttered, although it had better eye-candy
[12:12] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Since 16.10 is "more modern", my guess is that the kernel has bugs with VMWare. Consider using an older, more reliable and tested kernel like 14.04 or 16.04 LTS
[12:13] <nbusrone> hateball : how to disable every restart on pc on chromium asking for password ?
[12:13] <hateball> nbusrone: do you have automatic login?
[12:13] <hateball> nbusrone: are you using ubuntu with Unity?
[12:14] <thanzeon> alright, i'll try 16.04 this evening, thank, i'll let you know if i find you here
[12:14] <Manuel2> thanzeon: Ok, good luck
[12:16] <nbusrone> hateball : using 14.04 right now , and I have automatic login but when I start chromium it asked for keyring.After typing it works but only happen asking again on every reboot on pc.
[12:16] <helloNL> Hey, I am trying to add the Windows bootloader to grub on a fakeRaid but it doesn get added by this command. Anyone know why? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XGXeK3PQ/
[12:17] <hateball> nbusrone: usually the keyring is unlocked when you login manually. otherwise you will be prompted by the first program that wants to access it, chromium in this case
[12:18] <hateball> nbusrone: I don't use Unity / gnome-keyring myself so I dont know if/how you can unlock the keyring when use automatic login
[12:20] <nbusrone> hateball : I am still quite confuse, after upgraded chromium it started to ask for keyring. I just wanted to disable it or permanent store it so it wouldn't keep asking on every restart.
[12:21] <ablest> hi
[12:21] <ablest> before i login ubuntu i have to enter a passphase
[12:22] <ablest> how do i change that password
[12:22] <OerHeks> ablest, likely that is your encrypted disk/home password
[12:23] <ablest> yes
[12:23] <OerHeks> gnome-disk-utility lets you change the passphrase.
[12:23] <SuperSeriousCat> Encrypted disk happend before pc boots
[12:24] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase
[12:24] <ablest> ty
[12:24] <SuperSeriousCat> Sudo passwd (acc name) to change your password fast
[12:24] <ablest> im mean before SuperSeriousCat
[12:24] <ablest> that
[12:25] <OerHeks> or 'disks' can do that too, same url
[12:27] <lodiz> hi, anyone that installed xorg 1.19? i dont find it anywhere but i read that its released.
[12:30] <ablest> ok im done ty going to restart
[12:30] <OerHeks> lodiz, it is just released, so wait for 16.10 to get updated, or maybe 17.04 ?
[12:33] <lodiz> OerHeks: ok, thanks
[12:33] <ablest> :)
[12:36] <helloNL> Could anyone show me how to add a Windows 10 to grub manually? I use fakeRaid so it can find it automatically
[12:37] <helloNL> can't*
[12:47] <PinkPing> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp —destination-port 80 -j REDIRECT —to-port 8080  <— what it means?
[12:49] <usr13> PinkPing: It's redirecting traffic from port 80 to port 8080
[12:49] <PinkPing> request 80  ——> 8080 ? usr13 ?
[12:50] <usr13> PinkPing: http://askubuntu.com/questions/444729/redirect-port-80-to-8080-and-make-it-work-on-local-machine
[12:50] <usr13> PinkPing: It's for incoming traffic
[12:50] <PinkPing> respond 80 ——> 80?
[12:50] <PinkPing> respond 80 ——> 8080?
[12:50] <PinkPing> usr13: ?
[12:51] <usr13> PinkPing: It's for if you have a webserver listening on 8080
[12:51] <PinkPing> 8080 ——> 80 ? usr13 ?
[12:53] <CoderEurope> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/2016-11-16/
[12:54] <usr13> helloNL: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[12:54] <usr13> helloNL: 4.1.2 Chain-loading an OS
[12:55] <usr13> PinkPing: What is it you are trying to do?
[12:55] <helloNL> Could you tell me a bit more about the set root= part?
[12:56] <usr13> helloNL: It is where you designate the Hard Drive and the partition.
[12:56] <PinkPing> i just want to know that command. but i don’t know what is redirect?
[12:56] <PinkPing> usr13:
[12:56] <helloNL> Yh but how do I know which one it is, I used FakeRaid :P
[12:57] <arjarjun> include me in your project
[12:57] <arjarjun> anyone
[12:57] <arjarjun> ???
[12:57] <PinkPing> why i redirect 80 to 8080? usr13 ?
[12:57] <arjarjun> i want to contribute
[12:57] <PinkPing>  what is the purpose of forwarding port 80 to 8080?  usr13 ?
[12:58] <usr13> PinkPing: man iptables
[12:58] <PinkPing> yeah but can you give me hing more?
[12:58] <helloNL> usr13 this is my result of lsblk and now I am not sure how to do this https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xP5Bsax8/
[12:58] <PinkPing> hint
[12:59] <usr13> PinkPing: If you have a webserver listening on 8080, you would redirect traffic for port 80 to port 8080
[12:59] <usr13> PinkPing: Because port 80 is default for webservers
[13:00] <PinkPing> why i don’t use 80 because is default?
[13:00] <PinkPing> why i don’t use 80 because it is default?
[13:00] <PinkPing> usr13: ?
[13:01] <Ahackr> hi
[13:01] <Ahackr> anyone here
[13:01] <arjarjun> hello @ahackr
[13:02] <Ahackr> hi
[13:02] <arjarjun> are you new
[13:02] <usr13> set root=(hd0,1) means that you have MS Windows on the first (primary) hard drive and on the 1st partition on that primary hard drive.
[13:03] <Ahackr> does anyone know how to test ssd speed on ubuntu
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:04] <helloNL> usr13: I get that, the problem is that it's showing four drives where drive 1 and 3 are the same partition
[13:04] <usr13> PinkPing: It is up to you what port you use.  Yes port 80 is default so, right, why not just use port 80 and there is no need for redirect rule
[13:05] <usr13> helloNL: So just try hd0,1 and see if it works.
[13:05] <PinkPing> what is good when i use 8080 instead of 80? then?  usr13 ?
[13:06] <usr13> helloNL: If MS Windows is on the first partition, it will probably work.
[13:06] <helloNL> So just try and error?
[13:06] <usr13> PinkPing: Yea, just use port 80 and don't bother with an iptables rule.
[13:07] <PinkPing> :(
[13:07] <usr13> PinkPing: Ok?
[13:07] <PinkPing> usr13: it is best answer to me?  :|
[13:08] <helloNL> The problem is that I am not having it installed on /dev/sda usr13 but on /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1, where /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p2 is the EFI partition
[13:08] <usr13> PinkPing: I did answer you.  It is up to you.  I for one, see no really good reason to run your webserver on a non-standard port.
[13:08] <Ahackr> aa
[13:09] <usr13> helloNL: sudo fdisk -l   #What does that say?
[13:09] <th0r> usr13, security? having more than one web service behind the firewall?
[13:09] <PinkPing> ok then portfoward of 80 ——> 80 is good? usr13 ?
[13:09] <Ahackr> sdb
[13:10] <helloNL> usr13 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VAAGHGxo/
[13:12] <usr13> th0r: But he is showing us a rule that will direct all traffic to port 8080 and no ip address designation.  But yes, some may find it more secure to use a non-standard port, so if you would like to instruct him on the benifits of using non-standard ports, go right ahead.  His question was simply what does the iptables rule mean, what does it do.
[13:14] <usr13> helloNL: So MS Windows is on the 1TB hard drive, right?
[13:14] <helloNL> No it isn
[13:14] <helloNL> isnt
[13:14] <arjarjun> how can i contribute to ubuntu
[13:14] <arjarjun> plz tell
[13:15] <helloNL> 1TB hard drive doesnt have any partitions on it
[13:15] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hi all
[13:15] <Ahackr> how can i test my ssd's speed
[13:15] <usr13> helloNL: What does the 1TB drive have on it?
[13:15] <|VAH|-BlueTu> can anyone pls tell me how can i install urban terror on ubuntu
[13:16] <usr13> helloNL: ... anything?
[13:16] <|VAH|-BlueTu> can anyone pls tell me how can i install urban terror on ubuntu
[13:16] <helloNL> I still need to partition it usr13, atm nothing
[13:16] <helloNL> I use it as a data drive
[13:16] <|VAH|-BlueTu> can anyone pls tell me how can i install urban terror on ubuntu
[13:17] <Ahackr> idk
[13:17] <usr13> helloNL: Well I can not advise you on what to do with your hard drives.
[13:17] <usr13> helloNL: It's up to you.
[13:17] <Ahackr> does anyone have some guide for ubuntu
[13:17] <|VAH|-BlueTu> yes
[13:18] <Ahackr> what's the web site
[13:18] <helloNL> Yh but I am trying to add Windows which is installed on /dev/mapper/iws_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p4 to grub, which I cant seem to do usr13
[13:18] <|VAH|-BlueTu> wait
[13:18] <|VAH|-BlueTu> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-an-absolute-beginners-guide/
[13:18] <|VAH|-BlueTu> here u go
[13:18] <arjarjun> also tell me how to contribute to projects
[13:19] <arjarjun> in ubuntu with others
[13:19] <Ahackr> i use ubuntu for one year
[13:19] <|VAH|-BlueTu> type that on google and see it by yourself
[13:19] <usr13> helloNL: Not that it matters, but it *does* appear that sda has one single partition.  See lines 109-110
[13:20] <helloNL> Well I used FakeRAID to bind it to sdc usr13
[13:20] <helloNL> So they might both have 1 single partition
[13:20] <usr13> helloNL: Well, maybe it *does* matter, because below that, sdb seems to be the one that has no partitions.
[13:21] <usr13> helloNL: So is MS Windows on a 1TB hd?
[13:21] <helloNL> No it's not
[13:21] <usr13> helloNL: Ok, well, where is it?
[13:21] <helloNL> Itś on that one of line 138, ubuntu is installed on that one of line 140
[13:23] <helloNL> this might clear it up more usr13 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QN3zGpm4/
[13:23] <Ahackr> when i  use the software disk,use the smart function,i see my hdd have 222bilion ecc
[13:23] <Ahackr> what does it mean
[13:28] <usr13> helloNL: So I guess it would be hd3.  But why not just use the grub utilities.
[13:28] <rilliangrant__> hello
[13:29] <rilliangrant__> Anyone
[13:29] <rilliangrant__> goodbye
[13:30] <usr13> helloNL: See my pm
[13:30] <usr13> helloNL: From: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[13:30] <helloNL> The problem is that I have tried installing it with the tools
[13:30] <helloNL> It can find it :/
[13:30] <helloNL> cant
[13:31] <usr13> helloNL: So what is the history of this PC?  What have you done to it and why?
[13:31] <helloNL> I have installed freshly Windows on it. the selected drive was a FakeRAID of 2 256GB SSD
[13:31] <usr13> helloNL: What is your end goal.
[13:32] <helloNL> Now I wanted to have Ubuntu run next to it on the SSD
[13:32] <helloNL> As I need to also program on Linux for my minor
[13:32] <usr13> helloNL: So you installed Ubuntu?
[13:32] <helloNL> Yh on the 150gb that was left on my RAID 0 drive
[13:33] <usr13> helloNL: did you boot the install media on the PC as it is now?
[13:33] <helloNL> I have installed Ubuntu already and now it only can boot into ubuntu, it cant find Windows, but I have checked and the EFI files are there and the partitions for Windows itself are too
[13:35] <FAMAS> this user invites all nicks which were never invited in life to the unmoderated channel and no nicks will receive subsequent invites
[13:35] <Mufeu> Does anyone know how to fix this problem : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326216 but another way ;D Can't apt-get 'cause machine is not on the internet :s
[13:36] <mongo_monger> hello all
[13:36] <mongo_monger> hope im in right place for mongo
[13:36] <FAMAS> this user invites all nicks which were never invited in life to the unmoderated channel and no nicks will receive subsequent invites
[13:38] <Onepamopa> can someone tell me how to order /etc/rcX.d so some daemons are started before others ?
[13:38] <Onepamopa> I need to start something BEFORE everything else
[13:38] <usr13> FAMAS: Wrong channel?
[13:38] <dn`> does anybody know the default “ubuntu kernal install params”?
[13:39] <Onepamopa> dn` it's called kernEl not kernAl
[13:39] <dn`> Onepamopa: it’s a typo ;-)
[13:39] <Onepamopa> dn`, and you can get the default (generic) config from /boot
[13:39] <FAMAS> in reply to user usr13, this user asserts that no channel is the wrong place regarding the action
[13:39] <dn`> Onepamopa: what I need is the exact kernel params ubuntu uses to install, because I think I run otherwise into an mtrr bug
[13:40] <dn`> Onepamopa: let me rephrase - I don’t need to know with which options the kernel was build, I want to know the ‘command line’ options the installer uses while isntalling
[13:41] <Thanzex> hi there everyone! i'm trying to use Ubuntu with VMWare on a Win 10 host, i just installed Ubuntu 16.10 and VMWare tools on the machine, but when i set it to full screen, or whatever resolution other than 800x600 this happens https://s17.postimg.org/ttgp7nhqn/Screenshot_19.png
[13:41] <usr13> helloNL: I suppose it would be hd3,1
[13:41] <usr13> helloNL: But I really don't know for sure.  And not sure why grub can't detect it.
[13:41] <EriC^^> dn`: mount the iso and look in /boot for a config file
[13:41] <dn`> EriC^^: ah, thanks - good idea
[13:42] <Onepamopa> so, can someone tell me how to execute a script in /etc/rcX.d BEFORE ALL other scripts there ?
[13:42] <helloNL> usr13: When I do grub-install /boot/efi/EFI/Boot it does start to do something but it makes a lot of errors
[13:43] <EriC^^> helloNL: what's the problem you're having?
[13:43] <helloNL> I found that this should be able to install the OS if you give it the path usr13 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/KUimnRDy/
[13:44] <usr13> helloNL: You might try booting the install media, (LiveCD), and install boot-repair
[13:44] <Onepamopa> re
[13:44] <usr13> helloNL: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[13:44] <helloNL> boot-repair made a mess last time, and the OS thought I had installed it twice thanks to it
[13:44] <helloNL> Ubuntu is bootable btw
[13:44] <helloNL> Just Windows no
[13:44] <helloNL> not
[13:44] <EriC^^> helloNL: i might be able to help, what's the problem exactly?
[13:45] <usr13> helloNL: But not sure it would do anything different.... yea, Ubuntu is bootable so just install boot-repair
[13:45] <helloNL> EriC^^: I have a fakeRAID 0 with both Windows and Ubuntu installed on it
[13:45] <helloNL> Now I cant seem to boot into Windows
[13:45] <helloNL> Both are freshly installed
[13:46] <EriC^^> what happens when you try to boot into windows?
[13:46] <usr13> EriC^^: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VAAGHGxo/
[13:46] <usr13> EriC^^: and https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xP5Bsax8/
[13:46] <helloNL> EriC^^: I dont get into the grub menu and so I cant select Windows. Also I found out by digging into the files that it doesnt have any entry for Windows
[13:47] <helloNL> Because it doesnt seem to know that I have also Windows installed, all the efi files are there
[13:47] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo os-prober
[13:47] <helloNL> No output
[13:47] <EriC^^> helloNL: pastebin ls -lR /boot/efi
[13:48] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pDupkGbQ/
[13:49] <EriC^^> helloNL: pastebin "cat /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft"
[13:50] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lpfcTzy2/
[13:51] <EriC^^> helloNL: also "ls -l /etc/grub.d"
[13:51] <EriC^^> helloNL: you're booted in uefi mode right now right? (try ls /sys/firmware/efi)
[13:51] <helloNL> Yes I have UEFI mode running in BIOS
[13:52] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/B9V7x1RT/
[13:52] <helloNL> config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars
[13:52] <helloNL> efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab
[13:52] <EriC^^> everything looks fine, odd
[13:53] <EriC^^> helloNL: try "grep efi /etc/fstab"
[13:54] <helloNL> Yh but I dont have any partitions on sda and sdc as they are on /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1
[13:54] <helloNL> Because FakeRAID
[13:54] <Thanzex> sorry if someone already answered, my internet disconnected, i write it again:
[13:54] <Thanzex> hi there everyone! i'm trying to use Ubuntu with VMWare on a Win 10 host, i just installed Ubuntu 16.10 and VMWare tools on the machine, but when i set it to full screen, or whatever resolution other than 800x600 this happens https://s17.postimg.org/ttgp7nhqn/Screenshot_19.png
[13:55] <helloNL> EriC^^: /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1p2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[13:56] <EriC^^> helloNL: i have no idea, if you can't solve it in the end you can always create your own custom entry for windows
[13:56] <helloNL> Yes I wanted to do that
[13:56] <helloNL> But I cant find out what data to use
[13:57] <Amm0n> helloNL, maybe you installed a BIOS version of grub, try: grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi/EFI/Boot --bootloader-id=ubuntu after purging the installed grub
[13:58] <Amm0n> + os-prober
[13:58] <helloNL> Amm0n: it is the grub that is installed by the cd
[13:58] <helloNL> Its freshly installed
[13:58] <Amm0n> Yes, but it can be installed as BIOS and EFI
[13:59] <EriC^^> try "dpkg -l | grep grub"
[13:59] <helloNL> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OkkypeMJ/
[13:59] <helloNL> Seems to me as EFI
[14:00] <EriC^^> helloNL: i'll upload the windows entry i have
[14:00] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[14:03] <EriC^^> helloNL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23485649
[14:05] <EriC^^> helloNL: hd0,gpt1 is the efi partition
[14:05] <helloNL> Did you also use Raid?
[14:05] <EriC^^> no
[14:05] <EriC^^> i think it would be hd0,gpt2 in your case
[14:08] <frankiee_> Hi! So, it seems I have to revert to Xubuntu 12.04 due to my non-PAE CPU (Intel Celeron M 1.40GHz). If I simply do a `do-release-upgrade` after this, will I get the latest version of Xfce, audio/video codecs etc.? Or should I run some apt-get update all kinda of feature? Sorry I'm very new to this.
[14:09] <Amm0n> helloNL, i think you've defined the wrong EFI directory, to find windows too it has to be /boot/efi/EFI, now grub only looks inside /boot/efi/EFI/Boot
[14:10] <helloNL> Doesnt really matter Amm0n I tried all possible combos XP
[14:11] <helloNL> I even did just do /boot
[14:11] <Amm0n> with os-prober installed?
[14:12] <EriC^> helloNL: maybe "set -x; sudo os-prober" might show something?
[14:12] <helloNL> I am now running boot-repair
[14:20] <de-facto> damn, how can i use an usb stick that is confused by that weird ubuntu iso layout? i just want to erase it, but neither gparted nor dd want to write to it
[14:21] <de-facto> i did "dd" the iso to it, that was a bad choice i guess
[14:21] <helloNL> EriC^: Amm0n usr13 I am giving up, now only Windows is booting...
[14:21] <EriC^> de-facto: create a fresh partition table on it
[14:21] <de-facto> yeah how?
[14:21] <momomo> anyone else experiencing that libreoffice is terribly slow?
[14:21] <de-facto> gparted wont let me, dd refuses to write to it
[14:21] <EriC^> helloNL: lol, that's funny, does os-prober show anything now?
[14:21] <EriC^> helloNL: what did the boot-repair log have to say?
[14:21] <helloNL> I cant boot Linux xD
[14:22] <EriC^> de-facto: do you want a msdos or gpt partition table?
[14:22] <helloNL> Well I had the GRUB menu for a second
[14:22] <helloNL> So I chose Windows, and now it always boots that
[14:22] <de-facto> msdos
[14:22] <EriC^> helloNL: windows might have reset the efi list
[14:23] <helloNL> It also thinks Ubuntu is installed twice atm
[14:23] <EriC^> de-facto: sudo fdisk /dev/sdX , then press "o" then "w"
[14:23] <EriC^> helloNL: which laptop model is it?
[14:23] <helloNL> Shitty MSI
[14:23] <helloNL> MSI GE70 2OE 012NL
[14:23] <EriC^> why shitty?
[14:24] <helloNL> Support is shit
[14:24] <EriC^> oh
[14:24] <helloNL> Laptop is not even 2 years old and I cant even get support anymore
[14:24] <EriC^> are you able to get back into ubuntu now?
[14:24] <de-facto> EriC^ thanks i managed to talk gparted into writing to it with refreshing devices, after many many errors it wrote a msdos table to it, then i did it again without errors, so i guess its fine now
[14:25] <EriC^> de-facto: cool
[14:25] <de-facto> the kernel seems to get seriously confused by the layout of the ubuntu livecd iso layout
[14:25] <helloNL> I am not, when I select ubuntu Volume1 on my bios boot menu I boot into Windows
[14:25] <helloNL> Seems also that Windows is broken o.o
[14:26] <EriC^> boot a live usb
[14:26] <EriC^> i wonder what boot-repair did, it usually reinstalls the grub packages as a start i think
[14:31] <dn> why the /etc/init.d/networin restart is not working ?
[14:31] <dn> always tell me that the job is running
[14:31] <dn> can't not stop
[14:31] <mg983> hey all, I keep getting randomly `W: GPG error: http://www.apache.org 34x InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 749D6EEC0353B12C `
[14:31] <mg983> and a bunch of others
[14:31] <mg983> when running apt-get
[14:32] <mg983> update*
[14:32] <dn> mg983, use "apt-key"
[14:33] <mg983> apt-key add 749D6EEC0353B12C
[14:33] <mg983> wrong window :\
[14:34] <dn> mg983, use "apt-key -adv  key  --keyserver key.ubuntu.com"
[14:35] <mg983> dn`: what would the key be in this circumstance, sudo apt-key -adv  749D6EEC0353B12C  --keyserver key.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to work, I get back usage information
[14:37] <freakyy> what is a good editor (like gedit) but has highlighting functions?
[14:37] <freakyy> *syntax highlighting
[14:37] <EriC^> freakyy: try geany
[14:38] <dn> mg983, I dont kown how to make it work,but something like that , you can google
[14:38] <mg983> thx
[14:38] <dn> mg983,u r welcome
[14:38] <malvane> Hi, what is the best way (policy) in requesting a package to be updated to a newer version? Bug report?
[14:39] <freakyy> i dont want an ide EriC^  i want just an editor
[14:39] <freakyy> like notepad++
[14:39] <EriC^> freakyy: maybe you can install syntax highlighting on gedit
[14:39] <freakyy> ok wait
[14:39] <malvane> freakyy: gedit is similar to notepad++
[14:39] <EriC^> freakyy: you mean syntax completion right?
[14:40] <mg983> what would cause `Size of file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages.gz is not what the server reported 4015 5082` messages when doing apt-get update,e tc
[14:40] <freakyy> no just syntax highlighting
[14:40] <freakyy> so when i paste something in
[14:40] <freakyy> and want to edit it
[14:40] <freakyy> like config files
[14:40] <freakyy> i have some syntax highlighting
[14:41] <EriC^> freakyy: gedit already has that, it's at the bottom, unless you mean something else
[14:41] <freakyy> ok thanks
[14:41] <EriC^> it's the arrow that says Plain text by default
[14:42] <freakyy> yea i saw
[14:42] <freakyy> thanks :D
[14:42] <dn> mg983 do you know why networking is not normal in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:42] <EriC^> no problem
[14:42] <tim_____> hello everyone
[14:42] <EriC^> hi
[14:43] <mg983> dn`: no, go on
[14:43] <mg983> seems like it's a circleci issue
[14:44] <mg983> thanks obama
[14:44] <tim_____> I have a strange problem. My browser(s) Chrome and FF freeze my laptop (Ubuntu 16.04) when I use them for 10-15 minutes. I don't really know where to start looking for the problem. Any suggestions?
[14:45] <EriC^> tim_____: check "dmesg" in the terminal after it happens for any clues
[14:45] <EriC^> tim_____: also starting them from the terminal might show any errors there
[14:46] <tim_____> like directly after it happens? I can't do that, because the machine gets totally inresponsive and I need to hard-reset it. Can't even ssh into it :/
[14:51] <Kiryat8_> could you be out of ram memory and no swap or could it be thermal shutdown?
[14:52] <kalbhair1va> hii
[14:52] <EriC^^> tim_____: did you try a memtest?
[14:53] <tim_____> @Kiryat8_ My ram and swap seem to be sufficient (from what the monitoring panel on my Desktop says). Did not check thermal. Are there logfiles for thermal?
[14:53] <tim_____> @EriC^^ no, not yet. Is there a way to do a memtest on a running system? Only did it once from a recovery shell or something like that
[14:56] <Amm0n> helloNL, another option you have is to use systemd-boot
[14:58] <helloNL> What is that?
[14:58] <helloNL> Because I think I'll just have to give up /
[14:58] <helloNL> :/
[14:59] <helloNL> I am trying this shit already for 3 days...
[14:59] <Amm0n> helloNL, it's systemd's integrated bootloader
[14:59] <EriC^^> helloNL: boot a live usb to see what's what now
[14:59] <OnkelTem> Hi
[15:00] <OnkelTem> How to install language in LibreOffice?
[15:00] <helloNL> I am on a live usb, but cant seem to install boot-repair again
[15:00] <EriC^^> helloNL: pastebin ls -lR /boot/efi
[15:00] <EriC^^> also try sudo os-prober now just to see what happens
[15:00] <OnkelTem> Russian is just missed there for some weird reason (My system locale is Russian and UI is on Russian)
[15:01] <helloNL> os prober only finds ubuntu EriC^^
[15:01] <EriC^^> ok, try "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[15:01] <helloNL> I can't access it
[15:01] <helloNL> Do I need to do stuff firsT?
[15:01] <EriC^^> maybe boot-repair added a bunch of stuff in 40_custom
[15:02] <EriC^^> helloNL: yeah, mount the linux partition first
[15:02] <\9> OnkelTem: probably need a language package
[15:02] <helloNL> I am not that known with Linux :P
[15:03] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:03] <\9> OnkelTem: libreoffice-l10n-ru
[15:04] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link to it pasted and everything, copy the link here
[15:04] <OnkelTem> \9: thanks, I'll try
[15:05] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/cbk9 it also said invalid argument dureing seek for read in /dev/sda
[15:05] <c1pher> do you guys know anything about the latest version of ubuntu?
[15:06] <c1pher> what about unity 8?
[15:06] <EriC^^> helloNL: oh, it made an error, try "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:06] <EriC^^> c1pher: it's under development i guess
[15:06] <EriC^^> !unity8
[15:06] <WMBO> hello
[15:06] <WMBO> hey
[15:06] <tim___> hi WMBO
[15:07] <WMBO> whcihc cleint u use?
[15:07] <c1pher> great want to have a try
[15:08] <tim___> @EriC^^ did you mean the GRUB memtest?
[15:08] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/88v7
[15:08] <EriC^^> tim___: yes
[15:09] <tim___> @EriC^^ alright, I will do that tonight then and hope for the best.
[15:09] <OnkelTem> \9: Thanks! Works
[15:10] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1-part6 /mnt
[15:11] <EriC^^> tim___: ok, sounds good
[15:11] <helloNL> I did EriC^^
[15:11] <helloNL> It worked
[15:12] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, type "cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:12] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/s4co
[15:12] <c1pher> hi
[15:13] <EriC^^> c1pher: which ubuntu version do you have?
[15:13] <dn> c1pher hi
[15:13] <dn> 14.04 LTS
[15:13] <c1pher> sorry for laptop rebooting, actually i use manjaro linux which is based on archlinux with a xfce desktop
[15:13] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, boot-repair created a bunch of custom entries for windows
[15:14] <helloNL> Yes and also some extra for Ubuntu
[15:14] <helloNL> So now I have 2 entries for Ubuntu :/
[15:14] <c1pher> i chose manjaro cause of rolling update
[15:14] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo apt-get install efibootmgr && sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:15] <EriC^^> helloNL: some bios can be tricky and windows as well, they try to reset the uefi list on reboots so windows keeps getting booted
[15:15] <c1pher> seems the latest ubuntu changes it apt-get command to apt command
[15:16] <c1pher> replace apt-get with apt command
[15:16] <c1pher> just type 'apt install' is ok
[15:16] <EriC^^> windows might have done that when you rebooted, a nice workaround is to trick the bios into thinking it's booting windows every time by switching the names of the ubuntu and windows efi files
[15:16] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/ecvb
[15:16] <EriC^^> c1pher: yeah that's true
[15:17] <EriC^^> c1pher: if you want to test unity8, 16.10 has it by default
[15:17] <c1pher> ok ,i will try it in virtualbox
[15:18] <c1pher> jsut want to experience the latest unity desktop to find what changes
[15:18] <EriC^^> helloNL: nope, ubuntu is still first in the boot order
[15:18] <c1pher> efi boot problem?
[15:19] <EriC^^> initially ubuntu wouldn't pick up the windows efi file, after boot-repair it suddenly is booting just windows now
[15:20] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1-part2 /mnt/boot/efi
[15:20] <c1pher> because the windows overwrites the efi partition?
[15:20] <helloNL> I am trying to install boot-repair so it can fix the stuff
[15:20] <helloNL> But I cant seem to install it after adding the ppa
[15:20] <EriC^^> yeah, he said he got a grub menu at first, then he chose windows and it booted then grub was gone
[15:21] <dn> helloNL grub must support efi
[15:21] <usr13> helloNL: What error do you get?
[15:21] <helloNL> No errors :D
[15:21] <helloNL> Or do you mean for installing boot repair on the live cd?
[15:21] <helloNL> Because it can locate it and I get error connecting to the ppa
[15:21] <helloNL> cant*
[15:22] <usr13> helloNL: Do you have an internet connection?
[15:23] <usr13> helloNL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:24] <helloNL> Yes I have an internet connectionb
[15:24] <usr13> helloNL: Did you add the ppa?
[15:24] <helloNL> Else adding wouldnt happen
[15:24] <usr13> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[15:24] <helloNL> Yes did do that
[15:25] <usr13> helloNL: sudo apt-get update
[15:25] <shubjero> Does anyone know where I might be able to find a changelog or release note for Ubuntu daily build cloud images? https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/
[15:25] <helloNL> I added it again and now it doesnt talk about PGP issues
[15:31] <EriC^^> helloNL: if you want switching the files would get it working probably
[15:33] <helloNL> http://paste2.org/lKhD5Vbz Great now I can only boot into ubuntu xD
[15:33] <EriC^^> link doesn't exit
[15:33] <helloNL> Typo it seems
[15:33] <EriC^^> *exist
[15:33] <helloNL> http://paste2.org/IKhD5Vbz
[15:34] <usr13> helloNL: termbin.com
[15:34] <helloNL> This one is auto generated usr13
[15:35] <usr13> helloNL: Has anyone asked  you yet if;  After the initial MS Windows install, were you able to boot to it ok?
[15:36] <helloNL> No, as it didnt have a grub entry
[15:36] <usr13> helloNL: Did you do the MS Windows install first?  (And then the Ubuntu install?)
[15:36] <helloNL> Yes first Windows
[15:36] <usr13> helloNL: And you were never able to boot into MS Windows after the install.  Correct?
[15:36] <Amm0n> helloNL, did you disable Fast Boot in Windows?
[15:37] <helloNL> It was a standard Windows Install so I havent done anything
[15:37] <ioria> looks like fakeraid it's a pain with efi, and it's suggested to use bios legacy (also for installing, both win and ubu) :"16.a Disable EFI-Settings - Disabling EFI and choosing "legacy only" avoids the hassle to configure an EFI Partition (in Windows as well as Linux)"
[15:37] <helloNL> After installing Windows I could boot Windows, After installing Ubuntu I couldn't as it couldnt see my Windows install
[15:37] <helloNL> So it never registered it in GRub
[15:38] <usr13> helloNL: As ioria points out, legacy is best bet.  It's what I always do.
[15:38] <EriC^^> helloNL: let's try to switch the files and whatnot, what do you say?
[15:38] <helloNL> After doing Legacy do I have to reinstall?
[15:39] <usr13> no
[15:39] <ioria> helloNL, 'hassle' does not mean impossible...
[15:39] <usr13> helloNL: But that is what you should have done in the first place.
[15:39] <helloNL> Well for me with no good knowledge of Linux it is impossible for me
[15:40] <EriC^^> helloNL: i can almost assure you it would work
[15:40] <helloNL> Well just tell me what to do and I'll folow blindly
[15:40] <usr13> helloNL: Hard maybe, but not impossible.
[15:40] <helloNL> Even if that is removing system32 :P
[15:40] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok :D
[15:40] <usr13> helloNL: Not everyone is born into this world with extensive knowledge about Linux. :)
[15:41] <helloNL> Well I know the basics of the command line
[15:41] <helloNL> I dont know how to configure shit
[15:41] <EriC^^> helloNL: type sudo mount /dev/mapper/isw_cdedfdejjc_Volume1part6 /mnt
[15:41] <helloNL> I am currently in ubuntu again
[15:41] <EriC^^> aha great
[15:41] <EriC^^> nevermind that command then
[15:41] <helloNL> Boot-repair made ubuntu only
[15:41] <helloNL> Xd
[15:41] <helloNL> I dont get that program anymore
[15:42] <EriC^^> helloNL: type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:42] <Amm0n> helloNL, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#General_principles disable Fast Boot in windows, it can mess with your FS if you mount it between OS'S
[15:42] <usr13> helloNL: And share with us the resulting URL.
[15:43] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/zygw
[15:43] <florian> Hallo
[15:44] <EriC^^> helloNL: ubuntu's efi files are gone now :D
[15:45] <ioria> /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu: it's empty ?
[15:45] <EriC^^> the real mystery is how is it booting to ubuntu now
[15:45] <EriC^^> ioria: yes, and the windows file is the original bootmgfw.efi
[15:45] <ioria> EriC^^, oh....
[15:45] <tim___> >/join ##c++-basic
[15:45] <tim___> sorry
[15:46] <EriC^^> helloNL: sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:46] <Pharaoh> Looks like ubuntu just released graphics driver updates for 16.10
[15:47] <helloNL> http://termbin.com/zm5e
[15:48] <EriC^^> helloNL: ok, np, try "sudo grub-install"
[15:50] <helloNL> error cannot open /.boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi' input output error
[15:50] <lefthanded> Hello guys! What is "proccess" called that happens underneath the blootsplash?
[15:51] <frankiee_> while we're on the topic have you guys seen openbsd's improvement of sudo? it's called "doas"
[15:51] <EriC^^> helloNL: hmm
[15:51] <EriC^^> try sudo umount /boot/efi
[15:51] <frankiee_> not to mention their improvement of openssl (libressl), postfix (opensmtpd), apache/nginx (httpd) etc. etc.
[15:51] <helloNL> I think I'll just set it to legacy mode and start reinstalling the stuff
[15:51] <pac_> hi
[15:52] <sssuiiioii> bonjour
[15:52] <EriC^^> helloNL: you have to reinstall both os, or convert them
[15:52] <sssuiiioii> mais j'ai dis bonjour
[15:52] <EriC^^> !fr | sssuiiioii
[15:52] <sssuiiioii> y a quelqu'un
[15:53] <frankiee_> cool you can do that?
[15:53] <frankiee_> !my | sssuiiioii
[15:53] <sssuiiioii> cool i speak also in english
[15:53] <frankiee_> !is | sssuiiioii
[15:53] <EriC^^> frankiee_: it's not a toy :D
 Sorry, I don't know anything about is
[15:53] <EriC^^> !msgthebot | frankiee_
[15:54] <frankiee_> can i try one last time?
[15:54] <sssuiiioii> i can't install scipy on my ubuntu
[15:54] <frankiee_> !no | sssuiiioii
[15:54] <sssuiiioii> any one have ideas
[15:54] <frankiee_> Ok, at least that worked.
[15:54] <frankiee_> It should be "norsk" and not "Norsk" though
[15:54] <EriC^^> !info scipy
[15:54] <EriC^^> sssuiiioii: what's scipy?
[15:54] <frankiee_> Is there a way to edit?
[15:54] <sssuiiioii> yes please
[15:55] <usr13> EriC^^: helloNL How about MS Windows in Virtualbox?
[15:55] <sssuiiioii> it 's scientific library used in python for natural language procesing
[15:55] <helloNL> I'd like to casually play a game usr13 so that is not really that great of a solution
[15:55] <ouroumov_> sssuiiioii, I assume you tried: sudo apt-get install python-numpy python-scipy python-matplotlib ipython ipython-notebook python-pandas python-sympy python-nose
[15:55] <ouroumov_> ?
[15:55] <usr13> virtualbox | helloNL
[15:56] <sssuiiioii> ah ok
[15:56] <usr13> helloNL: Ok, well, just a suggestion/option....
[15:56] <sssuiiioii> i figured now that i didn't have the sudo privilege thanks dudes
[15:56] <helloNL> Yh, wish that would work for me usr13
[15:56] <ouroumov_> sssuiiioii, in that case contact your administrator and request he install the packages.
[15:57] <sssuiiioii> yes in my universitie it takes
[15:58] <sssuiiioii> a lot of time
[15:58] <sssuiiioii> to install those tricks
[15:58] <Pharaoh> I just saw auto graphics updates for 16.10 but installation failed.. fglx-core, amdgpu, everything..
[15:58] <usr13> helloNL: Are you sure your game will not work in a VM?
[15:58] <helloNL> Performance loss :P
[15:58] <sssuiiioii> yes games does not install on VM
[15:59] <sssuiiioii> but you can install steam os on it
[15:59] <usr13> helloNL: Yea, steam....
[16:00] <EriC^^> helloNL: running umount on the efi partition won't harm anything
[16:00] <usr13> I must say tho, I'm not a gamer.  I've just never needed to amuse myself in that way. Real life amuses me plenty.
[16:01] <helloNL> Well I think that the OS are already corrupted EriC^^ So I'd rather start again in the right mode
[16:01] <usr13> good idea
[16:01] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, if you didn't change your graphics card since yesterday, there is no other driver for your card than radeon, amd made them opensource
[16:01] <EriC^^> helloNL: fwiw it's not really "the right mode"
[16:02] <usr13> there are right and left modes
[16:02] <EriC^^> :D
[16:02] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, do you have problems with the radeon driver?
[16:03] <EriC^^> helloNL: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[16:03] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: i have the latest version of radeon  (xserver-xorg-video-radeon) etc. Yet, I have broken graphics. I just saw a warning that I am using software acceleration and not hardware acc. I get a blank screen if i don't use nomodeset
[16:03] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: most likely
[16:03] <usr13> EriC^^: Whois X?
[16:04] <usr13> sorry, my sense of humor has gotten the best of me.
[16:04] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, can you paste dmesg pls: dmesg |& nc termbin.com 9999
[16:06] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: nc as in netcat?
[16:06] <Amm0n> Pharaoh, the radeon driver doesn't work with nomodeset
[16:06] <Amm0n> yes
[16:06] <Pharaoh> Amm0n: I thought so. The screen comes up blank with nomodeset - how do I get out of this?
[16:07] <Amm0n> hit strg+alt+F2 to switch to another tty
[16:08] <EriC^^> helloNL: input output errors are hdd health errors usually
[16:08] <EriC^^> helloNL: try running a smart test to make sure they're ok
[16:08] <usr13> Pharaoh: From the grub menu, edit the kernel line to do away with nomodeset
[16:10] <usr13> Pharaoh: Remove the word nomodeset and Ctrl-x to boot  (I think it's Ctrl-x, right?)
[16:10] <Pharaoh> usr13: Yes, that's how it was initially. But it gave me black screen upon start up. I then have to do ctrl-alt-f1, log in
[16:10] <Pharaoh> user13 : Yes
[16:10] <Pharaoh> usr13: Yes
[16:11] <usr13> Pharaoh: to get to grub screen, hit/hold Shift right after spash screen, (or maybe even before).
[16:12] <Pharaoh> usr13: simply pressing e goes into grub where I can remove / add nomodeset and do a ctrl-x
[16:12] <usr13> Pharaoh: Ok, you already know.  Good.
[16:13] <Pharaoh> usr13: the problem comes later. Without nomodeset, nothing works - I get a black screen, ctrl-alt-f1 takes me to shell mode and that's it
[16:14] <usr13> Pharaoh: Oh, ok.  Well, is the login manager not running?
[16:14] <usr13> Pharaoh: lightdm ?
[16:14] <Pharaoh> usr13: the problem is AMD drivers don't work with my card, I have to bypass that using nomodeset to at least get some graphics
[16:14] <usr13> Pharaoh: Which one do you use?
[16:14] <usr13> Oh...
[16:15] <usr13> Pharaoh: Do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[16:16] <Pharaoh> usr13: strange, no. I do have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[16:16] <usr13> Pharaoh: Try using it.  (is that the only one?)
[16:17] <usr13> Pharaoh: Did it work before?  (Maybe under different kernel?)
[16:17] <Pharaoh> usr13: never worked with 16.10
[16:17] <husein> hi every body
[16:17] <usr13> Pharaoh: If so, maybe you just need to dpkg-reconfigure it.
[16:17] <usr13> Ok, never mind.
[16:18] <stan_man_can> is it safe to use SSH over a public wifi?
[16:18] <usr13> Pharaoh: Try:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:19] <husein> i have a problem with pptp i get this error: the vpn connection "myconnection" disconnected becuase the vpn service stoped
[16:19] <Pharaoh> usr13: done. next step .. sudo service lightdm restart?
[16:19] <usr13> stan_man_can: Well, it's not like ftp, (that's why it's called secure shell).
[16:19] <usr13> Pharaoh: Yea
[16:19] <usr13> Pharaoh: Well, I don't think that command works any more.
[16:20] <usr13> Phanes: systemctl lightdm stop && systemctl ligghtdm start
[16:20] <stan_man_can> so what _is_ vulnerable when you’re on a public wifi? non secure connects? aka HTTP/FTP ?
[16:20] <usr13> Phanes: Or just restart
[16:21] <usr13> Pharaoh: systemctl lightdm stop && systemctl ligghtdm start   Or just restart
[16:21] <usr13> sorry Phanes, wrong nic
[16:21] <usr13> Pharaoh: You need to preface that with sudo
[16:21] <Pharaoh> usr13: restarted now without nomodeset, seems better now
[16:21] <husein> please someone help me
[16:22] <husein> i have a problem with pptp i get this error: the vpn connection "myconnection" disconnected becuase the vpn service
[16:22] <usr13> Pharaoh: Okeydokey.  Maybe you should just make it permanent.
[16:24] <Pharaoh> usr13: thanks a lot. The real issue was the missing xorg.conf, I will apply updates to grub..🍸
[16:25] <usr13> Yes
[16:25] <usr13> Pharaoh: Well, the xorg.conf file should have been generated with the install of the radeon driver.  (That is what I assume...)
[16:26] <usr13> Pharaoh: And if done properly, you should have hardware acceleration
[16:27] <Amm0n> usually radeon doesn't need xorg.conf, unless you need options
[16:27] <Pharaoh> usr13: is there a command to generate xorg.conf, I got some error dialogs on logging in?
[16:27] <usr13> Pharaoh: Ok, there you go. Thanks for correction Amm0n
[16:28] <usr13> Amm0n: But may be that some chips require xorg.conf (maybe some of them are not so easily detected).
[16:30] <Amm0n> usr13, yes it's seems that Pharaoh's card needs some extras
[16:31] <usr13> Amm0n: Pharaoh https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:31] <Pharaoh> Amm0n, usr13 : I have an amd Radeon hd 6950
[16:31] <Pharaoh> Thanks for the link!
[16:33] <usr13> "Removing the proprietary fglrx driver" ?
[16:34] <SonikkuAmerica> usr13: fglrx is no longer
[16:34] <SonikkuAmerica> use AMDGPU instead.
[16:35] <usr13> SonikkuAmerica: But is Pharaoh on a system that was upgraded from earler version of Ubuntu?
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Perhaps
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Pharaoh: Did you upgrade from an earlier release?
[16:36] <Pharaoh> usr13: I did a fresh install-16.10
[16:36] <usr13> Pharaoh: Ok, never mind that part then...
[16:36] <Pharaoh> SonikkuAmerica: fresh install 16.10
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh OK
[16:37] <usr13> Pharaoh: Only thing is, it says that this information is for lts
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> But yeah, you'll need xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and either the "radeon" or "radeonsi" driver going forward.
[16:37] <usr13> Pharaoh: So not even sure the open driver will work on 16.10
[16:38] <Pharaoh> usr13: current setup seems to work well.
[16:49] <MotherMGA> Ubuntu 16.04 has Chromium 53 in its repositories, which is currently broken due to ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIRED. Is there a workaround?
[16:51] <elias_a> MotherMGA: More information: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=664177
[16:51] <elias_a> MotherMGA: Symantec advisory: https://knowledge.symantec.com/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&id=ALERT2160
[16:53] <Quicken2K> I can't download from the software center, wants a username or pass. I enter my Ubuntu One account and still can't log on
[16:53] <MotherMGA> elias_a: thanks for the links, but it says "upgrade". I can't find a PPA for an updated chromium. is there a trick?
[16:54] <gamester> Just downloaded vim-gtk3. Anytime I run it and try to open a file it crashes. Good job. (Fresh install of 16.10 here)
[16:55] <brainwash> MotherMGA: try https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage
[16:55] <MotherMGA> brainwash: thank you
[16:56] <nacc> gamester: so you run `gvim`?
[16:56] <nacc> gamester: i just tried that and it worked fine
[16:56] <gamester> yes
[16:56] <nacc> gamester: does the 'crash' report anything? (check dmesg, and journalctl)
[16:56] <gamester> some kind of gtk error, but I've now installed vim-gtk and it works
[16:57] <nacc> gamester: so what did you mean earlier when you said "downloaded vim-gtk3" ?
[16:57] <gamester> vim-gtk3 != vim-gtk
[16:57] <gamester> vim-gtk is gtk2
[16:57] <gamester> uses
[16:58] <nacc> gamester: i do not have vim-gtk installed and gvim works fine
[16:59] <anonvan94> hi guys, just want a little help here
[16:59] <anonvan94> can't install any apps in my ubuntu
[17:00] <nacc> anonvan94: using which tool?
[17:00] <anonvan94> I try apt-get update but still the same
[17:00] <anonvan94> terminal
[17:00] <nacc> anonvan94: please pastebin the exact command and output that you think is an issue
[17:00] <nacc> !pastebin | anonvan94
[17:01] <anonvan94> ubottu: thanks
[17:01] <anonvan94> really?
[17:02] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:02] <nacc> anonvan94: yes, i asked ubottu to direct the help text to you
[17:02] <gamester> nacc: https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/1130
[17:02] <tejasmanohar> anyone have ubuntu 16.10 on GCE?
[17:02] <tejasmanohar> (need the kernel update)
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: vim 8.0 is not in any ubuntu
[17:03] <tcorneli> how do you enable auto login on ubuntu 16.04 from cli?
[17:03] <anonvan94> nacc: thanks mate,
[17:03] <gamester> Those are the errors I got
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: ah i see, it's a unity issue
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: I don't use unity, hence don't see it
[17:03] <EriC^^> tcorneli: why from cli?
[17:03] <nacc> gamester: LP: #1611363 is the real issue
[17:04] <tcorneli> because i want to enable it remotely
[17:05] <anonvan94> nacc: When I try to install any app for example I install filezilla. It doesn't install, this is the error I always get. please check this snippet. http://pastebin.com/JzDk3kYB
[17:06] <tcorneli> EriC^^: nevermind, i was able to use the gui
[17:06] <anonvan94> This only happen after I bring my pc here in other house, I using different connection. I think about connection? what you think?
[17:06] <nacc> anonvan94: that seems to be indicating that apt-get can't reach the network
[17:06] <EriC^^> tcorneli: ok :)
[17:06] <anonvan94> nacc: yes
[17:06] <helloNL> Creating a Legacy RAID 0 drive, what is the best strip size?
[17:07] <nacc> anonvan94: can you pastebin the output of `apt-get update` ?
[17:07] <hhee> guys, how can i set locale system wide?
[17:07] <anonvan94> nacc: internet problem? speed problem?
[17:07] <hhee> not for one user
[17:09] <anonvan94> nacc: okay wait
[17:10] <gerry_> HI
[17:10] <EriC^^> hi
[17:11] <anonvan94> nacc: here is it http://pastebin.com/ByBg75qW
[17:12] <anonvan94> nacc: I already restart my pc many times but still the same
[17:15] <no_gravity> Chromium on Ubuntu has been unusable for days now because of the SSL bug. Google fixed it already. Why is it not pushed forward?
[17:15] <usr13> locale > hhee
[17:15] <usr13> !locale > hhee
[17:16] <nacc> anonvan94: ok, are you sure 'ph.archive.ubuntu.com' is actually up? I'm not able to reach it either. Maybe try a different mirror?
[17:16] <hhee> usr13, thx
[17:21] <anonvan94> nacc: hey mate, sorry for late response my xchat got crash
[17:21] <anonvan94> you still there?
[17:21] <nacc> anonvan94: sure
[17:22] <anonvan94> the last message I send was this
[17:22] <anonvan94> http://pastebin.com/ByBg75qW
[17:22] <anonvan94> nacc: that's the result of apt-get update
[17:22] <nacc> anonvan94: ok, are you sure 'ph.archive.ubuntu.com' is actually up? I'm not able to reach it either. Maybe try a different mirror?
[17:23] <anonvan94> nacc: I think so also
[17:23] <anonvan94> how to change mirror?
[17:25] <rmac> Hi! I'm looking for some help with rtcwake on a 16.04 server. Ever since I moved my hardware to a new case rtcwake puts the machine into S4 sleep (to disk) but doesn't wake at the appropriate time. Any suggestions?
[17:26] <usr13> anonvan94: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:26] <anonvan94> nacc: thanks mate, Ill try it
[17:31] <elodinn> Hi there
[17:32] <elodinn> Sometimes -- but only sometimes -- when I press Alt+K my window manager is killed
[17:32] <elodinn> does anyone know how I can debug this?
[17:32] <elodinn> is it a bug in the window manager?
[17:39] <anonvan94> nacc: Hey mate, it now works. You're right, our country's server maybe down thats why. Thank you so much again.
[17:41] <davor> hello. what's the state of fglrx on yakkety? is it coming to the repos anytime soon?
[17:42] <simosx> davor, no fglrx for 16.04 OR newer versions. It is superseeded by amggpu. If the stock amdgpu is not good for you you, you can use the AMDGPU PRO from AMD.
[17:44] <nacc> anonvan94: np
[17:49] <davor> thanks simosx. my gpu isn't supported by amdgpu pro, though I'm having trouble finding a list of supported gpus for amdgpu, specifically whether southern islands/pitcairn is supported
[17:49] <davor> mine is hd7870 specifically
[17:55] <davor> hm, seems the radeon driver is my only option
[17:55] <usr13> davor: correct
[18:14] <jay_>  /nick m00nkn1ght
[18:25] <allamoox> Hello
[18:26] <allamoox> which C# compiler can I use in ubuntu last version?
[18:26] <allamoox> mono-gmc?
[18:26] <allamoox> or
[18:28] <grant-h> Hi all, when installing python with apt what is the difference between `python` and `python-dev`
[18:29] <zartarr> man installing cura on ubuntu is pita
[18:30] <zartarr> i've had to use a windows machine just to use a darn 3d printer
[18:39] <sysmgmt> Hello, im having some issues, using ubuntu 16.04 on Lenovo Ideapad 310 - The issues im having, is whenever i try to connect / authenticate against any type of wireless connection
[18:39] <sysmgmt> anyone know what i may do? i have tried following this thread here http://askubuntu.com/questions/806097/ubuntu-16-04-wifi-connection-issues-connected-with-packet-loss/808519
[18:40] <sysmgmt> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)
[18:40] <CngzTur> Hey
[18:40] <raub> Which program for screen capture comes with ubuntu desktop?
[18:41] <sysmgmt> raub: gnome-screenshot
[18:41] <raub> sysmgmt: thanks!
[18:42] <sysmgmt> Having, issues using my wireless NIC on ubuntu 16.04 anyone with any idea regarding e.g firmware & drivers?
[18:42] <sysmgmt> dmesq |grep ath   ?
[18:42] <Sorch> sysmgmt, what kind of issues?
[18:43] <sysmgmt> Sorch: mesg |grep ath
[18:43] <sysmgmt> [    3.888830] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: pci irq msi-x interrupts 8 irq_mode 0 reset_mode 0
[18:43] <sysmgmt> [    4.146972] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[18:43] <sysmgmt> [    6.061418] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: qca9377 hw1.0 (0x05020000, 0x003820ff sub 17aa:4035) fw WLAN.TF.1.0-00267-1 fwapi 5 bdapi 2 htt-ver 3.1 wmi-op 4 htt-op 3 cal otp max-sta 32 raw 0 hwcrypto 1 features ignore-otp
[18:44] <Sorch> hmmm
[18:44] <sysmgmt> Sorch: *Major issues, with included wireless nic drivers/firmware for ubuntu 16.04 in combination with Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)
[18:45] <sysmgmt> Sorch: i tried to follow this guide here, without results http://askubuntu.com/questions/806097/ubuntu-16-04-wifi-connection-issues-connected-with-packet-loss/808519
[18:45] <Sorch> sysmgmt, http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation ?
[18:45] <sysmgmt> Sorch: one moment, will check it now
[18:46] <sysmgmt> Sorch: for example, they refer to this file here linux-firmware_1.157.2_all.deb
[18:46] <sysmgmt> i already downloaded linux-firmware                                       1.158                                                all          Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[18:48] <Sorch> sysmgmt, did you reboot?
[18:48] <Sorch> after installing the firmware?
[18:48] <anonvan94> ##centos
[18:48] <sysmgmt> Sorch: hang on, i will use theese as a source instead
[18:48] <sysmgmt> Sorch: i did this yesterday without successful results unfortunatly
[18:48] <sysmgmt> Sorch: im using theese .deb packages here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/1.157.2/+build/10164992
[18:49] <ioria> sysmgmt,  xenial is 57, yakkety 61  where did you take 58 ?
[18:49] <Sorch> sudo apt install linux-firmware ?
[18:49] <ioria> ah, ok
[18:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:52] <elias_a> Deja Dup users: have you bumped into g-io-error-quark -errors? https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/1600299
[18:53] <sysmgmt> Sorch: Yeah exactly
[18:53] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch: i did fetch it from this post over here http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation
[18:53] <Sorch> the wifi adapter just isn't working?
[18:53] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch so right now, what i did was to totally delete old linux-firmware, and install 57 for xenial i have not reboot yet
[18:54] <sysmgmt> Sorch: exactly, it just isnt authenticating (or has not been able to) depending on firmware / ndiswrapper - driver i guess
[18:54] <ioria> sysmgmt,  i see
[18:54] <Sorch> oh i've had that issue before
[18:54] <sysmgmt> ioria: give me, 3 minutes i will reboot and get back in here, and togheter i will send output/debug log files and lsmod
[18:54] <Sorch> i manually edited the wifi connected and added the key and it worked fine..
[18:55] <Rook1> Hey.
[18:55] <sysmgmt> Sorch: cool, tell me more in 2 min i will reboot now brb
[18:55] <Rook1> I need some help with guest accounts.
[18:58] <blabladog> Hi
[18:59] <Dynetrekk> hi, created a raid-0 btrfs volume over 2 spinning rust disks, but no performance improvement shown when running hdparm -tT /dev/sdb (/dev/sdb and /dev/sdc in the raid-0)
[18:59] <Dynetrekk> any idea why there's no speed benefit? disappointed...
[18:59] <blabladog> I have a couple of issues: first, empathy integration/contacts seems gone (when I try to edit accounts in empathy, nothing happens)
[18:59] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch Hello again
[19:00] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch please tell me what output you will need / want and i will give it, do you want me to paste output when i tail -f syslog and try to connect wifi?
[19:00] <blabladog> second: kernel update seems to have broken grub and now it waits 30 seconds before boot, and prompts me to choose e.g. memtest, how do I fix that?
[19:00] <ioria> sysmgmt,  dmesg | grep ath
[19:02] <blabladog> I see empathy has been dropped, so I use what instead? What is the official chat program for Ubuntu 16.04?
[19:03] <sysmgmt> ioria: please take a look here, http://pastebin.com/fidfjFe6
[19:03] <nacc> blabladog: hrm? empathy is still present
[19:03] <nacc> !info empathy | blabladog
[19:03] <nacc> !info empathy xenial | blabladog
[19:04] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch tell me and i paste output via pastebin
[19:04] <blabladog_> nacc: https://www.linux.com/news/ubuntu-1604-drops-brasero-and-empathy-gnome-calendar-be-adopted
[19:05] <ioria> sysmgmt,  same error, i guess ,  Direct firmware load for ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[19:05] <nacc> blabladog_: included by default and dropped are different things
[19:05] <JonelethIrenicus> trying to compile a program and getting this error "undefined reference to symbol 'glBlendFunc'"
[19:05] <JonelethIrenicus> any idea how to fix it?
[19:05] <blabladog_> nacc: OK, does it work for you? when I install empathy I cant add/edit accounts
[19:05] <sysmgmt> ioria: Nov 16 20:05:20 Lenovo-ideapad-310-15ISK kernel: [  460.253067] ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: no channel configured; ignoring frame(s)!
[19:06] <JonelethIrenicus> /usr/lib/nvidia-370/libGL.so.1: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[19:06] <JonelethIrenicus> any ideas?
[19:06] <LinuxNovice> hi, anybody online here?
[19:06] <nacc> blabladog_: I don't use empathy, I was only responding that it i stil present in the archives
[19:06] <sysmgmt> ioria: trying to connect, trying to connect. let me double check to see if i get direct firmware load error
[19:06] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: what program?
[19:06] <JonelethIrenicus> extcalc
[19:07] <LinuxNovice> can anybody explain what is the advantage of Ubuntu over Fedora?
[19:07] <ioria> sysmgmt,  are you using cable as well ?
[19:07] <nacc> LinuxNovice: they are different, and that is not particularly ontopic for this channel
[19:07] <sysmgmt> ioria: currently im on cable
[19:08] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: extcalc
[19:08] <sysmgmt> ioria: otherwise, i would not have been able to fetch/write at the same time, when trying to fix/troubleshoot wifi nic
[19:08] <blabladog_> is there a preferred way to use a nfs mount in (GUI) ubuntu 16.04?
[19:08] <sysmgmt> ioria: Sorch please have a look here on this pastebin - this is from syslog when i try to connect to my wireless access point.
[19:08] <LinuxNovice> I am new to Linux. I have an old laptop. Could anybody suggest a suitable linux distro for it?
[19:08] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: state RAM/CPU/hdd/ssd? but probably ubuntu
[19:09] <ioria> sysmgmt,  i see , but depends on the device, it would be better to troubleshoot with only one activated
[19:09] <sysmgmt> Sorch: ioria please take a look here http://hastebin.com/ujeyucivas.nginx  this is when i try to connect and syslog tells it all
[19:09] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: for novices I'd recommend ubuntu > mint > debian > fedora > others (but everyone's opinion differs)
[19:09] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: you probably are missing some libraries, but not sure which ones -- you could search aroudn to figure out which library provides that symbol and install the corresponding -dev packages
[19:10] <LinuxNovice> 2 GB RAM, Intel Celeron M with 1.8 GHz, 40 GB HDD.
[19:10] <sysmgmt> ioria: yeah i guess that is correct, but i need the cable in order to fetch/download driver or .deb files
[19:10] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: you might consider some lightweight distro but I guess ubuntu will run OKish on it
[19:10] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: Lubuntu is pretty simple but very light on RAM/disk
[19:10] <ioria> sysmgmt, sorry for asking, but have you configured your wifi interface ssid, wpa etc. etc . ?
[19:10] <LinuxNovice> Ok. Thanks a lot.
[19:11] <sysmgmt> ioria: of cource
[19:12] <sysmgmt> ioria: i already configured it, and put in password, secrets etc but from graphical tool.
[19:12] <Jordan_> hello
[19:12] <ioria> sysmgmt, wlp2s0: link is not ready
[19:12] <Jordan_> Can you guys see my messages?
[19:12] <l0llip0p> Jordan_, yes
[19:13] <LinuxNovice> Is Linux Mint better than Ubuntu or its variants for Linux newbies ??
[19:13] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: not imho but people disagree
[19:13] <ioria> sysmgmt, can you paste     ip  a
[19:13] <sysmgmt> ioria: ip a ?
[19:13] <ioria> sysmgmt, yep
[19:13] <LinuxNovice> Why? Could you elaborate?
[19:14] <Jordan_> So I just got a pc at walmart, immediately replaced the hdd with the ssd from my other pc. It won't boot, says there is no Bootable device detected
[19:14] <sysmgmt> ioria: root@Lenovo-ideapad-310-15ISK:/home/iran# ip a
[19:14] <sysmgmt> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1
[19:14] <sysmgmt>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[19:14] <sysmgmt>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
[19:14] <sysmgmt>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[19:14] <sysmgmt>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[19:14] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: just my experience; fewer hiccups on buntu
[19:14] <nacc> !pastebing | sysmgmt
[19:14] <nacc> !pastebin | sysmgmt
[19:14] <ioria> sysmgmt, in apastebinit, maybe
[19:14] <LinuxNovice> For the system resources I mentioned above which is better? Mint or Ubuntu?
[19:15] <LinuxNovice> Lubuntu seems pretty simple and unattractive.
[19:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  2GB RAM that's more than powerful enough to run both
[19:15] <sysmgmt> ioria: do you want me to 'modprobe ath10k_pci'
[19:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  assuming with a powerful enough proccesse,r how old isthe computer?
[19:15] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: lubuntu is made to save RAM
[19:15] <Dynetrekk> feel free to try real ubuntu
[19:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you put 40GB hard disk, is that old, or do you mean ssd ?
[19:15] <LinuxNovice> I bought it in 2005.
[19:15] <Dynetrekk> Svd0+NBuwH+EEU
[19:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok old
[19:16] <ioria> sysmgmt, 'ip a'  in apastebinit
[19:16] <LinuxNovice> It's a Hard Disk.
[19:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok so Unity the interface of Ubuntu for the past few years probably won't work as well on such a old computer
[19:16] <sysmgmt> ioria: yes i did send you that.
[19:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, as for example Mate
[19:16] <sysmgmt> ioria: modprobe -r ath10k_pci
[19:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !mate
[19:16] <sysmgmt> ioria: modprobe -r ath10k_pci
[19:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !cinnamon
[19:17] <sysmgmt> ioria: whenever you want, i do modprobe -i ath10k_pci  & of cource, here is ip a pastebin  http://hastebin.com/hivucamiju.pl
[19:17] <LinuxNovice> Ok. In your opinion Ubuntu Mate is better than Mint?
[19:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, not sure if Ubuntu can easilly run Cinnamon interface based on GNOME 3, but more light waight looking, but generally Mint debatably isn't as needed now in general
[19:18] <LinuxNovice> Why is Mint featured at the top on Distrowatch ranking?
[19:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  the distro the distribution itself generally won't matter that much in your case, be that Ubuntu, Mint, or one of the thousands of other distros.  what will matter though for a useable enough system is a suitable interface etc
[19:18] <ioria> sysmgmt, probably it's a firmware issue, really idk. but i'd try to down eth0 and manually  up wlp2s0
[19:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, 2GB RAM is nice and powerful more than nice and powerful for most interfaces,  graphical user interfaces,  but with a slower proccesser could still be a bit of a let down on a partiular computer
[19:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, when I put interface do you  know what I mean, or sort of?
[19:19] <LinuxNovice> Ok. It was Windows XP installed on this system. Need to switch to a suitable, user friendly linux distro that is fast enough for everyday use.
[19:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, or if I use the term desktop envrionment do you know what I mean, I wonder with the nick you got, possibly not
[19:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, do you know what Unity is? GNOME? KDE? etc?  no ?
[19:20] <LinuxNovice> Yes. I know what GUI is.
[19:20] <ioria> sysmgmt,  down enp1s0. i mean and up wlp2s0 : you can use sudo ip link set 'interface' down/up
[19:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok, but do you   know what these are, GNOME, KDE, Unity,  etc
[19:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Cinnamon, Mate, etc etc
[19:21] <LinuxNovice> Yes. I know a bit about them. They are desktops.
[19:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> right, but certain dektops and their accompaning programs are more suitable than others, for certain computers
[19:21] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: seriously, partition your /home on a separate partition, then you can install and try several without much effort
[19:21] <Dynetrekk> that's the actual best recommendation
[19:22] <Dynetrekk> LinuxNovice: ubuntu mate, ubuntu, mint mate, might be good options
[19:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that's one idea that Dynetrekk is suggeting, to have a sperate /home and put well more than just one Linux distro on the same computer,  however you can get a bit of a idea from the bootable Live  CD/DVD/USB what it would be like or not, if it would work enough or not
[19:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, also with one distro, you can install lots of the interfaces into the same distro install
[19:22] <LinuxNovice> What about LXLE? I read somewhere that it
[19:23] <LinuxNovice> it is also a suitable linux distro for such old laptops
[19:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  have you got an Ubuntu install now?
[19:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or maybe mint if not
[19:23] <LinuxNovice> Yes. Lubuntu and Mint XFCE.
[19:23] <jhutchins> LinuxNovice: https://www.linux.com/news/best-linux-desktop-environments-2016
[19:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, one slight down side to Mint, well  support community wise.  if your running Mint even though so similar to real Ubuntu,  your not really meant to use this channel for support,  you can go on there network and use theirs though which is ok,  but I guess here is still better for support so
[19:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Mint is basically Ubuntu with some changes here and there, mostly the default interfaces
[19:25] <LinuxNovice> Is LXLE officially supported by Ubuntu?
[19:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, so  Ubuntu itself with Unity, or one of the many other offically supported flavours,  such as LXDE  with Lubuntu,  or XFCE with Xubuntu,  or Mate with Ubuntu Mate etc, would probably be the better way to go really
[19:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !lxde
[19:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !lxqt
[19:26] <Dynetrekk> SebthreeBQM10HD: I'd actually recommend installing one distro at a time, try it for a week, see if you're happy; if not, try another to compare
[19:26] <kortyner> hello
[19:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  personally Mint isn't as relevenat anymore as it once was, I think, since they don't do codecs by default, and Mate runs no problem in plenty of other distros including Ubuntu,  and Cinnamon can as well, oddly Ubuntu doesn't seem to support Cinnamon though
[19:26] <LinuxNovice> I tried Ubuntu for a while. It was very slow on my laptop.
[19:27] <kortyner> i have problem with steam for create icon on desktop ,i need help please
[19:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, they stopped installing things by default into Mint,  that probably shoudn't have been really, for legal reasons, such as MP3 and AVI support, propritary closed source kept secret file formats
[19:28] <LinuxNovice> I liked Ubuntu. But, my laptop with such limited resources was not running fast enough.
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that was one of the main reasons people went to Mint before, since it gave a more out of the box expereince than Ubuntu and most other distros,  but you could put both onto the same computer like Dynetrekk  was suggesting and try out etc
[19:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes for standard Unity it's not going to work that well I expect, same for GNOME 3
[19:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, however with something more lite waight such as LXDE, XFCE,  or Mate, it should work much better
[19:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Mate is still a favourite of mine, since it's so similar to the old GNOME 2 from what it was forked from
[19:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !mate
[19:29] <LinuxNovice> Ok. Could you please explain in simple terms why Ubuntu is better than Mint?
[19:29] <ivan_man> but mint is so convenient ...
[19:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !better
[19:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !best
[19:30] <LinuxNovice> as I said I am new to Linux
[19:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hmm their used to be a factoid
[19:30] <nacc> LinuxNovice: that is a matter of opinion, and is not considered ontopic for the support channel
[19:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> their used to be fatoid saying that best is opinion and there is no such thing as a best
[19:30] <nacc> LinuxNovice: perhaps ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:31] <kortyner> nobody for help me please?
[19:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ivan_man, how is it so convient? sure when they still had codecs by default, but they stopped doing that now.  now it's more like what's the point, I can run Cinnamon and Mate in other distros anyway
[19:31] <nacc> kortyner: how did you install steam?
[19:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> kortyner, what's your issue ?
[19:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, in certain ways, one distro will be better than another in general, but it will depend on the computer that running it on, but also the opinion of the user what  they like etc
[19:32] <kortyner> if i want to create icon games for exemple tyrrany i say me : this one exist on desktop
[19:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Ubuntu and Mint are generally good distros to start with, and to stay with even, but plenty of other distros that could move on to later on even as well if wanted to later on
[19:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, which is best for the computer, and you as the user, that's your own personal choice  and opinion
[19:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi velus
[19:34] <LinuxNovice> ok
[19:34] <velus> hi SebthreeBQM10HD
[19:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> velus, what you doing in here, do you run Ubuntu :D ?
[19:34] <velus> i read somewhere that there is a major secrity hole in linux mainly in encrypted hard drives
[19:35] <velus> and SebthreeBQM10HD i have ubuntu on my computer and my servers
[19:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, however something to bare in mind is this,  the defeault UBuntu with Unity is likely to not work well on that computer if at all really, and same for GNOME 3
[19:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  the other above mentions ones,  LXDE, XFCE, and Mate, should all work well though :)  plus there are even someo ther ones that are more well interfaces, but can't really recommend those
[19:35] <kortyner> you have a idee? for that
[19:35] <LinuxNovice> Ok. I'll try Ubuntu Mate, then.
[19:36] <velus> SebthreeBQM10HD, you seb from unitycoders
[19:36] <velus> yep you are i think i should run lol
[19:36] <jwash> hi, i've got an iPad 2 os on version 8.0 (12A365) with a ton of pictures on it, taken with the built in camera. Is there a way to bulk transfer the files to a computer like I'd do with my digital camera?
[19:36] <LinuxNovice> thanks a lot, guys. For your inputs.
[19:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> velus, oh yeah in a way you owed me some money still didn't you? h eh h eh
[19:37] <velus> no i paid it you back
[19:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nope, but anyway off topic for here
[19:37] <velus> and this is not the place to discuse this
[19:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes Ubuntu Mate is  good one to use
[19:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to try
[19:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, but XFCE and LXDE both   will be good on there to.  by the way, once you got one installed you can install the other two into the same install as well
[19:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, then choose what you want from the log in screen.  so you won't need three seperate Ubuntu installs
[19:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you can even change the log in screen, so much choice here, my personal favourite is LXDM  from LXDE
[19:40] <LinuxNovice> So, you mean after installing the OS, I can choose any of these desktops at the startup?
[19:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes basically
[19:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, well the ones that are supported in the Ubuntu archeives, the repos, wh8ich oddly does not seem to have Cinnamon in there, but  that probably woudn't work so well or as well as those other ones on a old computer anyway
[19:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !repos
[19:41] <LinuxNovice> ok. Suppose, I install Lubuntu. What do I need to do to get XFCE or Mate desktops from the same installation?
[19:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes that's what I mean
[19:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you can start with any
[19:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you can start with Ubuntu itself with Unity on a suppoted computer of course, or any of the offically supported dervatives that we were on about such as Xubuntu  Lubuntu or Ubuntu Mate
[19:42] <LinuxNovice> I'll begin with Lubuntu, the most lightweight.
[19:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then to have another one you just install it froom the repos :)
[19:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and  the you can select it from the log in screen
[19:42] <LinuxNovice> It
[19:43] <LinuxNovice> It is not dual or multiple boot, I suppose.
[19:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok so let's  say you put Lubuntu on with LXDE
[19:43] <LinuxNovice> ok
[19:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  downloaded the ISO,  maybe evn checked the iso
[19:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !md5sum
[19:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> normally they download fine, but yeah
[19:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, then you put the ISO onto the CD R / DVD R / or USB.  boot the computer up for it and install yep, and hopefully works fine etc, right good,  now ready to try another one.  in this example so let's say Xubuntu with XFCE
[19:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, then open the graph8ical install software type program, not sure what that is in lubuntu or just go in the terminal.  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  put password in and as long as your internet connected as well it will dowdnload and install it for you
[19:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> password being your user account password
[19:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> same thing can be done for other ones.  ubuntu-mate I think would be the command for example
[19:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  no need to pm about this, we can chat here?
[19:48] <LinuxNovice> Ok. If I install multiple desktops, is it not going to consume a lot of hard disk space?
[19:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, not that much hard disk space,  but how much did you give ubuntu
[19:48] <LinuxNovice> I have Lubuntu on my laptop.
[19:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, so it's got the whole 40gb of hard disk space ?
[19:49] <LinuxNovice> I gave about 15 GBs to Lubuntu.
[19:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I normally give a Linux distro install like 16GB or so, and yes I normally do mutli8ple desktops as well
[19:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, so that's fine for that, but
[19:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, but by default /home will be part of it as well, and that's where your data would be and that could run out of space if you got big files   also genrally most linux  programs don't take up that much space,  except for say some of the bigger games and things llike that
[19:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you could resize the partion later anyway
[19:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or start over
[19:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> time to try desktops I guess etc then
[19:50] <LinuxNovice> no. I have a separate partition for home.
[19:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok that's fine and good then :)
[19:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> should be
[19:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, open the terminal
[19:51] <sysmgmt> ioria: okay hang on
[19:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not sure the gui program for installing stuff in lubuntu so and termianl is better :d
[19:51] <LinuxNovice> ok
[19:52] <LinuxNovice> can we do it by using GUI
[19:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that Lubuntu install was quick by the way ????
[19:52] <sysmgmt> ioria: do you want me to manually bring up please paste int name again? :)
[19:52] <LinuxNovice> i had lubuntu already
[19:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, oh
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, there is a graphical program for installing stuff, but not sure what it is in lubuntu, and no need to be scared of the terminal, for what we are dong :)
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it's so basic etc
[19:53] <LinuxNovice> ok
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, open the terminal: put this command in for Xubuntu so with XFCE
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:53] <ioria> sysmgmt,  down enp1s0 and up wlp2s0 : you can use sudo ip link set 'interface' down/up ... but it's just a try maybe it's better to have a read at this : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304250
[19:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> put in your user account password, sit back and watch it download and intall it for you just like that as long as your intenret connected
[19:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes it will put on quite a few xubuntu pakages a whole desktop envrionment just like that
[19:54] <LinuxNovice> So, how much space can I expect XFCE and Mate desktops to take now?
[19:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, might ask to change the log in screen to something else,  if that one doesn't, another would though such as KDE,  that would be ctrl and tab to select I think
[19:54] <LinuxNovice> Does it not affect other installed applications?
[19:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you'll just have more programs installed once you got other ones installed, and some have proper programs for each desktop envrionment, but most of those will work in the other ones as well
[19:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Lubuntu has like a kind of start menu,  once you put xubuntu stuff in there, quite a bit of that will appear in the lubuntu start menu as well
[19:56] <sysmgmt> ioria: output is root@Lenovo-ideapad-310-15ISK:/home/iran/Downloads# sudo ip link set wlp2s0 up
[19:56] <sysmgmt> Cannot find device "wlp2s0"
[19:56] <LinuxNovice> Ok. It won't affect system performance, then?
[19:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, programs do not get effected by each other, because htey wre from another desktop envrionment,  it all works well together
[19:56] <sysmgmt> ioria: i guess, i need to create configuration file for wlp2s0 interface? simillar to RHEL ifcfg-eth0
[19:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, and  not everything runs at the same time, not all destkop envrionmetns window managers, etc etc run at same time
[19:57] <ioria> sysmgmt,  no, if you run 'ip a', you'll find your interfaces's names
[19:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, for example if you had say KDE installed, which is a more bigger desktop envrionment with lots of it's own programs as well,  but let's say you installed that, into your system with lubuntu or xubuntu on it or both
[19:57] <sysmgmt> ioria: problem is that nothing is listed except the wired interface :(
[19:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, suddenly you got well k games and various kde programs installed as well,  some of those programs are going to be a bit more resource hungery sure, but
[19:58] <bfig> hello, I'm having trouble with permissions - I created a user, added it to a group and chown'd recursively with the group, plus chmod g+rw -r everything in said directory. I cant access the content, I get permission denied, but I can see in ls -al that the group is correctly set, and logging in with the user and looking at groups it shows the new group, so it is properly added. Any ideas of how to
[19:58] <bfig> troubleshoot this?
[19:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, they will generally run well on most computers, in whatever interface they are running in, even when it's not kde, if that makes sense ?
[19:58] <sysmgmt> root@Lenovo-ideapad-310-15ISK:/home/iran/Downloads# ifconfig -a
[19:58] <sysmgmt> enp1s0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr c8:5b:76:54:3a:b1
[19:58] <sysmgmt>           inet addr:192.168.1.88  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[19:58] <sysmgmt>           inet6 addr: fe80::a889:e679:fd:f79b/64 Scope:Link
[19:58] <sysmgmt>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[19:58] <sysmgmt>           RX packets:20846 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[19:58] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !kde
[19:59] <ioria> sysmgmt,  you pasted 'ip a'  few minutes ago, and there were both the interfaces
[19:59] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | sysmgmt
[19:59] <LinuxNovice> Ok. Now with Lubuntu installed in my laptop, with 15 gb space allocated to it, can i safely install xfce or mate desktops or both of them?
[19:59] <Southern_Gentlem> LinuxNovice, yes
[19:59] <ioria> sysmgmt,  that is ifconfig, not 'ip a'
[19:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, and in that example, when running one KDE program in another interface, you are not running the whole of KDE, altough there wil be quite a bit of KDE in the background to running that particuarl program or programs
[19:59] <LinuxNovice> that's great.
[19:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes that's the whole point,  you can install  everything basically and try
[20:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, and easilly enough as long as it's in the ubuntu repos
[20:00] <sysmgmt> ioria: weird, did it disappear after the reboot perhaps?
[20:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you think Lubuntu is the most lighte waight?  uhmmm no probably something like  open box or fluxbox wins when it comes to that, but those are window managers,  there are desktop envrionmetn and window managers
[20:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, de's or wm's
[20:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and yes there is a difference
[20:00] <LinuxNovice> ok. I didn't know this. I'll try xfce and mate on Lubuntu, now.
[20:00] <sysmgmt> ioria: i paste ip a in pastebin
[20:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, a desktop envrionment is a interface, but also a load of programs basically, where as a window manager, is just a graphical user interface basically
[20:01] <sysmgmt> ioria: http://pastebin.com/amenesQg
[20:01] <sysmgmt> ioria: output ip a > http://pastebin.com/amenesQg
[20:01] <LinuxNovice> I'm new to Linux. These are pretty new things to me.
[20:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, no one really recommends openssh or fluxbox or those usaully, since they are a bit to well old skool really, but actually  can be useable.  altough openbox  when I have tried is just a black screen, and a right click menu for opening programs, that's how basic it is
[20:02] <bfig> hello, I'm having trouble with permissions - I created a user, added it to a group and chown'd recursively with the group, plus chmod g+rw -r everything in said directory. I cant access the content, I get permission denied, but I can see in ls -al that the group is correctly set, and logging in with the user and looking at groups it shows the new group, so it is properly added. Any ideas of how to
[20:02] <bfig> troubleshoot this?
[20:03] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[20:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, then there are tings like  enlightment e17 which looks a bit more flashy with menu effects, but quite laight waight,  and  things like budgie more recently coming over to ubuntu,  http://omgubuntu.co.uk was covering that one recently, so much choice here,  from distros, interfaces, browsers, office suites, graphica programs, music programs, etc etc
[20:03] <sysmgmt> ioria: any ideas? really this is a driver/fw issue. i reboot and paste ip a again 1 min
[20:03] <ioria> sysmgmt,  yes, wifi was present before, what did you do ?....
[20:03] <fn2> bfig, if you are talking about cd then the directories need to be executable (not the files) as well
[20:03] <LinuxNovice> awesome.
[20:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, however generally most distros run pretty much all or mostly the same programs
[20:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  when I started in 2004 I didn't  know why most distors looked very similar, seemed to run same programs etc basically, later found out why though
[20:05] <iran> ioria: Hey! it worked when i issued a reboot just now, output of ip a shows them all
[20:05] <bfig> fn2: ohh great to know! how can I recursively make executable the directories and not the files?
[20:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Unity is tighed to Ubuntu though,  since technical and political reasons, only Ubuntu runs that
[20:05] <iran> ioria: still on cable though, but backports drivers must be in use now i belive
[20:06] <ioria> iran, sudo lshw -c Network  (in a pastebinit)
[20:06] <LinuxNovice> Ok. Let me try this out.
[20:06] <bfig> nevermind, found chmod g+X
[20:06] <bfig> thanks for the help, let's see if it works...
[20:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  yes  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop then
[20:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, once intallled you should be able to just log out to the log in screen, and select the option for xfce/xubuntu
[20:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes no re boot required this is not Windows, only re boots required here usaully when installing something major such as Linux kernel  new version and wanting to use it
[20:07] <iran> ioria: yes ofc > http://pastebin.com/ck9x54hg
[20:08] <fn2> bfig, http://superuser.com/questions/91935/how-to-chmod-all-directories-except-files-recursively
[20:08] <bfig> yeah, was looking at that link, thanks fn2. It worked :)
[20:09] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, thanks a lot for the info.
[20:09] <ioria> iran, it looks ok, if you have issue may depends on your wpa/wep/router stuff
[20:09] <iran> ioria: > http://pastebin.com/aNU5Evq2
[20:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, there will be a session optoin on the log in screens
[20:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, for changing the one to ru
[20:09] <iran> ioria: before i try authenticate, i will tail -f /var/log/syslog and in previous pastebin you see that driver is loaded
[20:10] <iran> ioria: linux-firware 1.157.4
[20:10] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, so much useful info you shared here. Thanks a lot.
[20:10] <ioria> iran, ok...
[20:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ctrl and  tab I think  if your installing one that wants to change log in screen, been a while
[20:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you should try one, then come back to me ;d   installed yet?
[20:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> xubuntu
[20:12] <LinuxNovice> No. I am using another OS now. Not on Lubuntu now. Let me switch to Lubuntu.
[20:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, another OS as in Windows ?
[20:13] <LinuxNovice> Let me switch to Lubuntu. Restarting now.
[20:13] <iran> ioria: no sorry
[20:14] <iran> ioria: i get a bunch of headache errors because of fw. i will paste my syslog and you'll see also i did issue ip link up but still wont connect (tried 3 different routers) :(
[20:15] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[20:15] <iran> ioria: http://pastebin.com/wLKyYnr5
[20:16] <iran> ioria: i will add my mac address to airport express ACL now
[20:16] <iran> ioria: and if that will work then success with saven SSID
[20:16] <iran> ioria: one minute
[20:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  hi in  Xubuntu ?
[20:21] <LinuxNovice> hi.. still in Lubuntu.
[20:22] <LinuxNovice> Just restarted the laptop
[20:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  ok intalled xubuntu yet ?
[20:22] <LinuxNovice> I opened the terminal
[20:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, have you used the terminal before /
[20:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ?
[20:23] <LinuxNovice> what is the command for xfce de
[20:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:24] <male32norway> Is this a place I can ask "howto's" ?
[20:24] <LinuxNovice> yes. it's executing the command.
[20:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes and then it should start downloading a load of packages
[20:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> will take a few minutes or so
[20:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to install
[20:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maybe a bit more, since it's a full de
[20:26] <Jordan_U> male32norway: Yes. Any Ubuntu related support question is welcome here :)
[20:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, us.archeive.ubuntu.com or something like that for downloads, depending on your cuntry, which is of interest
[20:26] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, it is downloading...
[20:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, how long it say it going to take?
[20:28] <LinuxNovice> about 14 minutes
[20:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, it's probably like I don't know over 40 things on,  and it will just download, and insall for you just like that,  no uhmmm Windows type program installer,  ok there are a few  programs in the Linux world with that kind of thing, but they are usually propritary closed source programs as well
[20:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yeah about 14 minutes, that sounds about right
[20:29] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok
[20:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, when it booted up the computer first turned on it said lubuntu I guess?  this will probably change it to say xubuntu instead, but again even with  that,  various themes etc, choice
[20:30] <Sonderblade> is plymouth-x11 a package you need anymore?
[20:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, I think so
[20:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, and in which version of ubuntu
[20:31] <Sonderblade> 15.10
[20:31] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok. But, can I choose Lubuntu if I want it?
[20:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, you just happended to be asking since what I put to LinuxNovice  or was that by coindience ?
[20:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, from the log in screen you choose whatever de's or wm's that are installed
[20:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> desktop envrionemtns window manager
[20:31] <Sonderblade> SebthreeBQM10HD: by coincidence, i didn't read your discussion
[20:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, however I just mentioned  the actsual OS boot up theme as well just now,  you know like in WINDOWS where it says like Windows XP is loading
[20:32] <ioria> Sonderblade, 15.10 is dead
[20:32] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, that's great.
[20:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, that's a point you should probably upgrade to 16.04 really, or maybe you got the AMD issue and holding back as a result ?
[20:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, the  OS boot up screen, the very first screen you see graphically, is run by a program called Plymouth, installing differnet de's  may change the theme of that to another one
[20:33] <ioria> !15.10 | Sonderblade
[20:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you can change themes yourself, but I generally just leave that to whatever is up personally, since done it before and bumped into issues sometimes
[20:34] <Sonderblade> ioria: i know it is unsupported, it doesn't mean it is *dead*
[20:34] <ioria> Sonderblade, unsupported mean that, i'am afraid
[20:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, the log in screen is called a dm,  desktop manager
[20:34] <ioria> *s
[20:34] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok.
[20:35] <Sonderblade> ioria: i'm using it which proves it is not dead
[20:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !15.10
[20:35] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD. this conversation with you is really informative.
[20:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, it's end of life though, no longer offically supported
[20:35] <ioria> Sonderblade, ok, go on
[20:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, indeed, I used to do this quite a bit, but not so much now,  only sometimes
[20:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> help here I mean
[20:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or in pms etc
[20:36] <Ben64> Sonderblade: it has huge vulnerabilities, using it now is stupid
[20:36] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, thanks a lot again.
[20:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, an end of life relese will still work as an os, but will have security issues etc
[20:38] <Sonderblade> Ben64: that's a stupid thing to say. thousands of people are using it since not everyone has the time to sit through upgrades every six months
[20:38] <rmac> That's why there are LTS releases
[20:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, you should be on long term support relsae if your one of those,  unless your one of the few who know how to properly maintain them selves a unsupportd version of a Linux distro, which is not that many Linux users by the way
[20:38] <Ben64> Sonderblade: wrong, there might be hundreds of people using it still, it's still very stupid
[20:38] <Ben64> and yeah, LTS
[20:39] <ioria> Sonderblade, you should be notified about that by the Update-Manager ...
[20:39] <jf02jfv> 123
[20:39] <Ben64> you're one upgrade away from 16.04, which is supported until 2021
[20:39] <Sonderblade> Ben64: thinking everyone has time to upgrade every time is stupid
[20:39] <Ben64> then use LTS
[20:39] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, by the way, which one in your personal opinion is better, Mate or XFCE?
[20:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that's a point, is that Lubuntu 16.10 or 16.04 ?
[20:39] <laserbeak4445> Hi
[20:39] <laserbeak4445> I would like to stream the output of my desktop sound card over my LAN to my Android phone. Is IceCast the best solution for that or there is something better or more simple to do the same thing?
[20:40] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, 16.10
[20:40] <Sonderblade> i *WAS* using the lts release, then there was a really horrible problem with chrome which the ubuntu devs didn't want to backport a fix for
[20:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Mate I prefer to XFCE and LXDE,  but thats since Mate is based on the old GNOME 2
[20:40] <Ben64> chrome isn't in the ubuntu repositories
[20:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that was used by most distros such as Ubuntu as the default for like 8 years
[20:41] <blacknred0> Ben64: no, it is not
[20:41] <ioria> Sonderblade, chrome is google product, not ubuntu
[20:41] <Sonderblade> of course i meant "chromium-browser"
[20:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, XFCE dates back before GNOME 2 though,  but I started using  Desktop Linux when there was GNOME 2, and every time I treid XFCE just something about it, not quite for me, same for LXCE, but I would prefer LXCE over XFCE quite a bit
[20:42] <Ben64> Sonderblade: those are two different things
[20:42] <blacknred0> yes, they are
[20:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !gnome2
[20:42] <blacknred0> !notunity
[20:43] <Sonderblade> Ben64: you could not figure out that when i wrote "problem with chrome" i actually meant "problem with the chromium-browser package"? i think that was clear from context
[20:43] <Ben64> Sonderblade: it's not, because there's something called chrome, and there's something called chromium
[20:43] <rmac> laserbeak4445: IceCast2 is pretty simple to get working, but mpd might be more lightweight.  Here's a post on getting it working from 2011 (unsure if this still works, but should get you most of the way there) http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/stream-music-to-your-android-device.html
[20:44] <blacknred0> Sonderblade: you can not make that assumption
[20:44] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, it is diplaying some error. Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  16.10 is not a long term support release, so only 9 months of support with security and some stability updates possibly, so in about 8 months people running that should upgrade to 17.04 released in mid april
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or end of april
[20:44] <Sonderblade> blacknred0: why not?
[20:44] <ioria> Sonderblade, chrome=closed source ; chromium: open-source ... that's said ... what was the issue you got ?
[20:44] <blacknred0> Sonderblade: they are two different products
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok  pastebin the termianl output
[20:44] <Ben64> Sonderblade: anyway, upgrade to 16.04 or continue running vulnerable software, if y ou choose the latter you don't need to be in this channel
[20:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pastebin
[20:44] <blacknred0> ioria: they are both open-sourced
[20:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, sometimes things don't completly install,  but it's probably installed most things ayway so far, show on pastebin
[20:45] <ioria> blacknred0, ho really ? i missed that
[20:45] <Sonderblade> Ben64: that's not for you to say
[20:45] <blake1> I think I've been hacked, I copied processes from top, if anyone wants to look at them
[20:45] <Ben64> Sonderblade: 15.10 is not supported here at all. if you refuse to run a supported release, there's really no reason to be here
[20:45] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I didn't get what you are saying.
[20:46] <Sonderblade> blacknred0: it it reasonable for someone to install the "chrome" product on ubuntu linux?
[20:46] <ioria> blacknred0,  let's try to port dmr on chromium
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, copy and paste the terminal output the text
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  and put on pastebin
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pastebin
[20:46] <blacknred0> Sonderblade: yes, i have it myself
[20:46] <blake1> ok
[20:46] <Sonderblade> Ben64: there are many reasons
[20:47] <LinuxNovice> W: chmod 0700 of directory /var/lib/apt/lists/partial failed - SetupAPTPartialDirectory (1: Operation not permitted)
[20:47] <John__> Hello, I bought a new laptop with amd gpu and i'm confused about the current state of amd drivers. Can someone explain what are all these drivers, fglrx, ati, amdgpu, amdgpu-pro? I want the best recommended driver for performance
[20:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, you can have the real Google Chrome  the closedd source proprtiary one from Google, and in a supported Ubuntu release, if you  want to try that instead of Chromium from which it is based on
[20:47] <blake1>  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                                                                                                  (B[m[39;49m[K (B[m 1598 root      20   0  340408 127624  42292 S  43.8  3.2   3:02.42 Xorg
[20:47] <Ben64> blake1: use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:47] <LinuxNovice> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) W: Problem unlinking the file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - RemoveCaches (13: Permission denied) E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the adminis
[20:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, it's probably ok enough, but show me on pastebin,  or enough of it, the error stuff mostly
[20:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok looks quite standard error message. what were the two fix options again ?
[20:48] <Sonderblade> SebthreeBQM10HD: i didnt know what. where do you get it from?
[20:49] <LinuxNovice> Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, I think the Canonical partner repo or something
[20:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !chrome
[20:49] <blake1> ok I did that
[20:49] <blake1> do yoyu want url
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, try either of those
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I think the first will just go through the repos again the update
[20:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !googlechrome
[20:50] <blake1> here is url http://paste.ubuntu.com/23487274/
[20:50] <open> somethingnew
[20:51] <ioria> SebthreeBQM10HD, no factoid i think
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !partner
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Sonderblade, partner repo I think for Google Chrome yes ^^^^
[20:51] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, what is the second one
[20:51] <ioria> Sonderblade, if you want chrome (64 bit only) you download the .deb from google
[20:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, a way to fix  the broken package I think
[20:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, or the package that for whatever reason didn't download properly
[20:52] <blake1> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23487274/
[20:52] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, can you type that command here?
[20:52] <Ben64> blake1: looks like you got some problems
[20:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, no just do what it says
[20:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that should do it :)
[20:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, also if you look in the lubuntu start menu,  may see other things there already :)
[20:53] <blake1> that computer is off
[20:53] <blake1> i copied the output
[20:53] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, what do I need to do now?
[20:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, run ecommands it suggeted, check the lubuntu start menu, any new programs there yet?  if not , i guess it didn't make it to the install stage, was still on donwnload
[20:54] <blake1> Ben64 any idea?
[20:55] <LinuxNovice> --fix-missing is this a command?
[20:55] <laserbeak4445> rmac: thx for link! :)
[20:55] <Ben64> blake1: reinstall?
[20:56] <blake1> im on liveusb
[20:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, check the lubuntu start menu first
[20:56] <blake1> im going to save my files though
[20:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, any new programs?
[20:56] <akik> blake1: what is the problem you're having? why do you suspect you were hacked?
[20:57] <XenophonF> shouldn't starting ypbind automatically trigger the startup of rpcbind?
[20:57] <XenophonF> (ubuntu 16.04.1 btw)
[20:57] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, is Xvt new one?
[20:58] <blake1> well my credit card was used last night, had to cancel it and some anonymous text showed up in one of my files
[20:58] <akik> blake1: ok! good reasons!
[20:59] <blake1> does that top look funny?
[20:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I don't know
[20:59] <Pici> blake1: your top output looks fine.
[20:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, can you select high light enough of the terminal out put, and pastebin it,
[20:59] <blake1> oh
[20:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pasetbin
[20:59] <akik> blake1: not necessarily if you're playing video in firefox
[20:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pastebin
[20:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, if you put too much here at once, the bot etc won't like and people
[21:02] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, can rebooting give a clearer picture?
[21:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,   re booting probably woudn't do much
[21:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it's either installed or not
[21:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but you imght have  a broekn package manager
[21:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that's the thing
[21:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, copy and paste the error messages, ideally put on pastebin to so you don't get channel problems
[21:03] <RFleming> Greetings and salutations!
[21:06] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I pasted it there.
[21:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok and now need a link for that
[21:07] <blake1> who knows, it could have been through my phone, im taking it to retail outlet tomorrow
[21:07] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23487324/
[21:08] <blake1> but i probably picked to busy of a chat room
[21:10] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, what do I need to do now?
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, are you root
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> as it asks
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, did you sudo
[21:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sudo apt-get
[21:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and put your user account password in
[21:11] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, no. I think.
[21:11] <Epx998> is there a non-gui app to create a ks.cfg for ubuntu14?
[21:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that's important you can't install software unless you sudo
[21:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and become root for that
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I guess a sudo apt-get update like it suggest wil be fine though
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> try that
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sudo apt-get update
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that should re load the repos I think
[21:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, try this: apt-get update
[21:13] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok. that was the problem, I think. It's downloading now.
[21:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> what did you do to make it download ?
[21:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !sudo
[21:14] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I typed sudo apt-get update. Entered the password and hit enter.
[21:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[21:15] <blake1> blake1 out
[21:16] <Jordan_U> blake1: The "(B[m[1m" and similar in your top output appears to be escape sequences that shouldn't be displayed as characters.
[21:16] <blake1> hold on
[21:16] <O1O1O1> how do i run "service openerp-server stop" withouth a password prompt?
[21:16] <O1O1O1> i tried echo 'password' | sudo -S service openerp-server stop
[21:16] <O1O1O1> but doesnt work
[21:17] <Jordan_U> blake1: I don't know why that's happening, but I see no reason to specifically expect that it's due to an intrusion of some kind.
[21:17] <bivo> Accidentally dropped a folder on an NTFS formatted HDD onto the trash in the side pane and it auto deleted, is there a way to get it back?
[21:17] <blake1> Jordan_U could be just formatting?
[21:17] <EriC^^> bivo: try testdisk
[21:17] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[21:17] <glitchd> can anyone tell me ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop installed is faster than a xubuntu install?
[21:18] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, please see this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23487371/
[21:19] <blake1> Jordan_U: I posted earlier, had weird text in my files
[21:19] <Jordan_U> blake1: What was the weird text? In what files?
[21:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  wine hmm
[21:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice,  not sure why it was trying to install tthat or whatever
[21:20] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, is that an error?
[21:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, seems it's ignored not installed problem packages anyway, so should be fine
[21:20] <blake1> Jordan_U: words that I did not write
[21:20] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok. What next?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> O1O1O1: You can't pass passwords to stdin for any reasonably secure program. It's almost never a good idea to do so, as there are multiple ways that your password could leak without you realizing it. What is your end goal? Why do you want to avoid typing your password when restarting openerp-server?
[21:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, has it completed otherwise ?
[21:21] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, yes. I think.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> blake1: That's not really enough information to draw any reasonable conclusion. What text? What files?
[21:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, check the lubuntu start menu, do you see lots of new programs ?
[21:23] <zCoyz> hello
[21:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[21:23] <blake1> Jordan_U: someone used my credit card last night, had to cancel it
[21:23] <zCoyz> have they figured out a fix for steam yet?
[21:23] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, Not sure about that. I think, some new programs have been installed.
[21:23] <markeezy> hello?
[21:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, should have ended  on a screen where you could type another command in
[21:24] <glitchd> markeezy, hey
[21:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> markeezy, hi
[21:24] <markeezy> o shit wuddup
[21:24] <glitchd> lol
[21:24] <markeezy> first time in an irc eyy
[21:24] <XenophonF> looks like i am hitting this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpcbind/+bug/1558196
[21:25] <glitchd> markeezy, do you need help with something?
[21:25] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, where?
[21:25] <glitchd> can anyone tell me ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop installed is faster than a xubuntu install?
[21:25] <markeezy> hmm, nah i was just curious about irc's so i've been reading up about it. decided to try join one
[21:25] <markeezy> can you recommend any websites to learn more about linux and the power of the command line in general
[21:25] <glitchd> markeezy, well this is a help oriented channel
[21:26] <blake1> at any rate im going to save my partitions for future reference, thanks all, blake1 out
[21:26] <markeezy> yea, i'll leave right now
[21:26] <markeezy> :)
[21:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, the  terminal
[21:26] <glitchd> markeezy, there are other channels such ass ubuntu-offtopic to just chill n talk
[21:26] <markeezy> wicked, cheers mate.
[21:26] <markeezy> how do i leave?
[21:26] <glitchd> markeezy, u dont have to leave
[21:26] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, yes.
[21:26] <glitchd> markeezy, i was just telling you what this place is for
[21:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok if you can type another command in it's done
[21:27] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I can type in a new command now.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> glitchd: It wouldn't make any sense for one to be "faster" than the other, since both consist of the same packages. If anything, installing Ubuntu with Unity then installing xubuntu-desktop *might* (but probably doesn't) run some services that wouldn't normally run with just xubuntu-desktop and not ubuntu-desktop installed, which might slow things down.
[21:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok should be intalled then
[21:27] <markeezy> yea i understand, i figured as much, but was just trying to join any channel, so just chose #ubuntu.
[21:27] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, so, shall I reboot it, then?
[21:27] <markeezy> 2 questions, 1. what command do i type to leave, 2. how can i basically @ with a handlename, like if i wanted to @glitchd
[21:27] <glitchd> markeezy, try /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I  put earlier that once installed, you should be able to just log out to the log in screen, find the sesssion changer option tere should be a icon or something, and into xubuntu/xfce.  no re boot required
[21:28] <helloNL> Hey, I have put my BIOS on LEGACY and reconfigured my RAID 0, I installed Windows 10 on it. The problem now is that when I try to install ubuntu next to my Windows 10 installation it tells me that Bootloader install failed, and it tried to do that on /dev/sda th e problem is that this one isn't even on the list when it tells me to choose a different device
[21:28] <helloNL> to install the bootloader on
[21:28] <glitchd> markeezy, nevermind my last response
[21:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, howeever
[21:28] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok
[21:28] <EriC^^> helloNL: you converted the partition table to msdos right
[21:28] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, however it may have changed the boot up theme for the system as well
[21:28] <zCoyz> hello
[21:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, so re boot find out, and when the log in screen comes up,  log into xubuntu, and chat to me there?  see you in a bit ?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> helloNL: I assume that this is FakeRAID as opposed to hardware RAID?
[21:29] <glitchd> helloNL, you have to change a setting on in the bios to be able to install ubuntu, but when u change that setting it wont let you boot windows.
[21:29] <helloNL> Yes it is FakeRAID configured by pressing ctrl + I
[21:29] <glitchd> helloNL, so to boot inbetween both os's youll have to change that setting each time you want to switch to the other os
[21:29] <zCoyz> anyone know how to fix steam for ubuntu 16.04?
[21:30] <helloNL> Well glitchd I want both OS to work on my RAID as it has a speed of 1.3gb/s which is really nice to load stuff with
[21:30] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok
[21:30] <glitchd> helloNL, so you want ubuntu to work with secure boot then
[21:30] <helloNL> Well Ubuntu should work with secure boot
[21:31] <Jordan_U> helloNL: It does.
[21:31] <helloNL> But the problem I have now is selected where to put the bootloader :/
[21:31] <glitchd> helloNL, i think i had misinformation..
[21:31] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Well first, I generally recommend against using FakeRAID, but if you want RAID in Windows then you may not have a choice. If you want to continue using FakeRAID you'll need to make sure that grub's boot sector gets installed to the array, not to any individual drive. What options are listed for where to install grub's boot sector?
[21:32] <helloNL> sorry can't take screenshot but this is the options I get https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BdCoZ4Z3/irccloudcapture-1154386420.jpg
[21:33] <Jordan_U> helloNL: The first option should work.
[21:33] <helloNL> I can't press OK
[21:34] <glitchd> then you havent selected all the options i think
[21:34] <glitchd> what are the other 2 lower bubbles for?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Please post another picture of what you're seeing.
[21:34] <helloNL> Well the problem is that what ever choice I make the OK button does a click animation but nothing more :S
[21:35] <helloNL> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2tHSlgjJ/irccloudcapture-1687343013.jpg
[21:36] <Mining-> hey all! i have a weird issue... when I go through shares using file manager.. I can edit file after I've been asked for l&p.. but as soon as I mount the share using the fstab... cannot edit files anymore.. only have access in read
[21:36] <Jordan_U> helloNL: For now, continue without a bootloader.
[21:36] <helloNL> OK still does nothing :/
[21:36] <Mining-> dunno if it's my mount line that isn't ok
[21:36] <usr13> helloNL: Choose sda
[21:37] <helloNL> sda is not in the list usr13
[21:37] <usr13> helloNL: What are the options?
[21:37] <usr13> helloNL: Show us another picture.
[21:37] <helloNL> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BdCoZ4Z3/irccloudcapture-1154386420.jpg here a foto of the screen
[21:37] <Jordan_U> usr13: helloNL: sda is not the correct choice in this instance (FakeRAID) (plus helloNL said they already tried that).
[21:38] <helloNL> I just don't get why I cant press ok when I have a option selected. It is also not greyed out
[21:38] <glitchd> maybe the 3rd option?
[21:38] <usr13> helloNL: Oh yea, sda is not used yet.  You said that it was installed but you've yet to partition it or use it?
[21:39] <usr13> helloNL: So I suppose you can use /dev/sdb
[21:39] <helloNL> I just chose the option to install it next to the installed OSes
[21:39] <glitchd> helloNL, and that worked?
[21:39] <Jordan_U> helloNL: usr13: If sdb is part of your array, then don't install to it either.
[21:39] <helloNL> Still can't press the fucking OK button wtf
[21:39] <helloNL> sdb is not part of it Jordan_U
[21:40] <glitchd> helloNL, chill bruh
[21:40] <usr13> helloNL: choose /dev/sdb  (and you'll have to use boot options to select /dev/sdb to boot to.)
[21:40] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Please watch your language.
[21:40] <helloNL> Sorry
[21:40] <helloNL> I am spending already to much time on getting Ubuntu and Windows working next to each other
[21:40] <helloNL> This is the 3rd day :/
[21:41] <usr13> helloNL: What is it again with sda?  I know that you showed us before but, tell us the story about sda
[21:41] <helloNL> I'll show you my RAID configuration screen. Maybe you guys can make sense of it then
[21:42] <usr13> helloNL: Or you can send us a link again.  Ctrl-Alt-F6, login and do:
[21:42] <usr13> sudo fdisk -l |& termbin.com 9999
[21:42] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Did you boot the LiveUSB in "Try Ubuntu before installing" mode?
[21:42] <helloNL> No did install mode Jordan
[21:43] <bivo> EriC^^ I tried it, the only thing it finds is a .trash file, it doesn't list the files that are missing
[21:43] <helloNL> I just cut the power to the systen
[21:43] <EriC^^> bivo: what kind of files are they?
[21:43] <usr13> helloNL: You did what?
[21:43] <helloNL> this is my fakeraid setup https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lVjySFFy/irccloudcapture507309931.jpg
[21:44] <bivo> EriC^^ a 180Gb home folder backup
[21:44] <usr13> helloNL: You need to overwrite the MS Windows boot loader, where ever that is.
[21:45] <EriC^^> bivo: tar.gz?
[21:45] <bivo> EriC^^ no, just dragged and dropped
[21:46] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Boot again and use the "try before installing" option. For future references, I always use this option as it allows you to use a browser and other tools *and* still allows you to run the installer alongside them.
[21:46] <EriC^^> bivo: try ntfsundelete
[21:46] <EriC^^> bivo: also photorec
[21:47] <joegiampaoli> Is ubuntu 64 already multiarch enabled by default?
[21:47] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Once booted, please run "sudo blkid" in a terminal and pastebin the output.
[21:47] <helloNL> Yh good point Jordan_U, I am just a newbie to Linux, I know from git bash how to navigate and stuff and from homestead how to edit files with it, I just dont know anything about tools and stuff
[21:47] <Jordan_U> joegiampaoli: Yes.
[21:47] <joegiampaoli> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[21:47] <Jordan_U> joegiampaoli: You're welcome.
[21:49] <helloNL> Jordan_U: have a second? I need to first redo the partitioning. All those installs have broken my set up
[21:49] <tomaz_b> hi, can anyone help me please
[21:49] <tomaz_b> i have a brand new ubuntu 16.04 setup
[21:49] <glitchd> tomaz_b, and your question?
[21:49] <tomaz_b> but in skype calls, screensharing, VLC video... my "video" is small
[21:49] <tomaz_b> somehow I can't enlarge it
[21:50] <Jordan_U> helloNL: I was hoping to walk you through installing grub with the existing Ubuntu installation as I need to leave soon.
[21:50] <tomaz_b> really annoying is in skype cause I can't screen share as I would like to
[21:50] <william_> I would like to request help
[21:50] <Jordan_U> william_: Just ask your question at any time in this channel. If anyone thinks they can help, they will :)
[21:50] <tomaz_b> first i thought it is skype... but now in VLC the same. video is small, if i choose to fit the windows... only some blue color enlarge... but video stays
[21:50] <workisfu`> hi guys, would you know how to fix this? taskbar or menubar where all the windows can be minimized/maximized with a click, atm only lets me click an icon to open or show a window but if i click it again it doesn't minimize the window
[21:51] <helloNL> Well the problem was that it installed itself on a different drive then I wanted Jordan_U
[21:51] <glitchd> tomaz_b, im not really understanding the question, could you rephrase it?
[21:51] <workisfu`> i'm on 16.04 and this used to be the behavior for 14.04
[21:52] <tomaz_b> ok. In skype everything related to "video" -> video call, screensharing is somehow small. really small. can't make it larger ... as area on screen. Same with VLC when trying to play video...
[21:52] <cschuck> Are you able to use all the Kali tools in Ubuntu?
[21:52] <glitchd> tomaz_b, have you changed anything recently?
[21:53] <tomaz_b> but VLC is not really such a problem, since I can use default player, where everything is ok
[21:53] <tomaz_b> no
[21:53] <Pazooza> I have 16.04 unity. Why does it stop seeing plugged in usb devices after a long while? If I plug an external drive after a fresh boot it automounts just fine. Later on after I've been away it will no longer auto mount anything. I have to reboot again. Is there something I can turn on instead of rebooting?
[21:53] <cschuck> tomaz_b, are there any that crossover?
[21:53] <tomaz_b> ?
[21:54] <tomaz_b> cschuck: what do you mean?
[21:54] <helloNL> http://kopy.io/6HknH Jordan_U
[21:54] <cschuck> @tomaz_b are there any tools that are in Kali that can be run properly in Ubuntu?
[21:54] <helloNL> sdd1 is the usb drive I use to install ubuntu Jordan_U
[21:55] <tomaz_b> cschuck: sorry I don't understand?
[21:55] <tomaz_b> cschuck: did you wrote this for somebody else?
[21:55] <Jordan_U> helloNL: I don't see any Ubuntu partition there. Did you already delete it?
[21:56] <helloNL> Yh I did delete it already as it was all gone wrong
[21:56] <william_> I am following this guide to flash my bios:https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789&highlight=Flash+Your+Bios but for some reason when I try to copy my new bios files into the folder that the guide says to create; I get an error saying that there is not enough space in the folder
[21:56] <tomaz_b> glitchd: no, i didn't change anything in a while
[21:57] <tomaz_b> is it possible that some apps use different "video drivers"... or something?
[21:57] <tomaz_b> it looks like... skype, vlc have the same problem, but on the other hand... default video player is capable of playing video normally
[21:58] <Jordan_U> william_: That is a very old guide. I would recommend using a newer one unless you have a particualr reason for chosing that one.
[21:58] <tomaz_b> so it looks to me, that it is not let say general problem that i don't have a working video or something..
[21:58] <bivo> EriC^^ Following this guide https://www.maketecheasier.com/recover-deleted-windows-files-with-linux/ I got this error http://pastebin.com/nECtn6jn
[21:58] <william_> where can I find a newer guide
[21:58] <helloNL> this is the partition table now Jordan_U https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DR7uEf4k/irccloudcapture-693544710.jpg
[21:58] <tomaz_b> but more of a problems with specific apps accessing "video resources"
[21:59] <Guest39409> Anyone free to give some advice about a jacked up nfs installation?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> william_: What model is your motherboard?
[22:00] <glitchd> tomaz_b, i think you need to look into changing the resolution in skype
[22:00] <glitchd> tomaz_b, the resolution of the webcamn i mean
[22:00] <william_> Insyde H20 the computer is an acer aspire E1-731
[22:01] <tomaz_b> hmm
[22:01] <tomaz_b> ok
[22:01] <glitchd> tomaz_b, you could also try installing cheese and see how the webcam works in there
[22:01] <william_> I just got the computer about a week ago but its current bios is really old and it gives me an error when I try to do it in Windows
[22:01] <glitchd> tomaz_b, if it works normally in there, then youll know it has to be a setting in skype that is causing this
[22:02] <glitchd> william_, try to do what in windows?
[22:02] <william_> run the flashing tool
[22:02] <glitchd> is the tool detected in the device manager?
[22:02] <helloNL> Jordan_U: can you help based on this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DR7uEf4k/irccloudcapture-693544710.jpg
[22:03] <william_> but I found out in internet research its because it is upgrading the bios to a UEFI and this can't be done while the HDD is in use
[22:03] <EriC^^> bivo: you need to use the partition e.g. /dev/sdb1/2/3...
[22:03] <glitchd> william_, then boot to a live cd
[22:03] <william_> I tried a Windows 7 live cd and it still refused
[22:04] <EriC^^> bivo: pastebin the output of sudo parted -l
[22:04] <glitchd> william_, btw this is a ubuntu forum, not a windows forum.
[22:04] <psst> hello
[22:04] <william_> I know but I am trying to find a linux guide
[22:04] <glitchd> william_, ok
[22:04] <william_> because windows 10 is really limited
[22:05] <glitchd> tomaz_b, any progress?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> william_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[22:06] <tomaz_b> well... i can see a video, i can put it in full screen
[22:06] <tomaz_b> but the quality is really bad, even though it suppose to be HD
[22:06] <glitchd> does the video enlarge in fullsreen?
[22:06] <tomaz_b> yes
[22:07] <glitchd> tomaz_b, and this is after you changed the resolution of the camera?
[22:07] <william_> thanks for the liink, I will look into it! thanks :)
[22:07] <tomaz_b> i don't know where I can change resolution
[22:07] <Pazooza> How do you restart systemd-udevd.service ?
[22:08] <glitchd> tomaz_b, http://askubuntu.com/questions/4947/how-can-i-change-resolution-of-my-video-in-skype
[22:08] <Jordan_U> helloNL: I'm not sure why the installer is listing your array and all of its partitions twice.
[22:08] <helloNL> I dont know either
[22:08] <helloNL> So I just ignore the second ones
[22:09] <helloNL> And I might have just done it right by accident lol
[22:09] <helloNL> I need to guess more sometimes
[22:09] <helloNL> I did it lol
[22:09] <glitchd> helloNL, guessing works, but its always better to be more informed about the subject
[22:09] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Create one partition for '/' and another for swap, and select the first option as the device to install grub to.
[22:09] <helloNL> This was half guessed
[22:10] <glitchd> helloNL, lol right on
[22:10] <helloNL> I put the bootloader on Windows 10 Loader
[22:10] <glitchd> helloNL, sometimes guessing is the only option
[22:10] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Where the first option should be a device in /dev/mapper that does *not* end in a number.
[22:10] <helloNL> Seemed the most appropriate
[22:11] <Jordan_U> helloNL: That is *wrong*.
[22:11] <glitchd> wompwomp..
[22:11] <Jordan_U> helloNL: You've just broken your ability to boot Windows, (and you won't be able to boot Ubuntu currently either).
[22:11] <helloNL> Just booted into Ubuntu
[22:12] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Well, you may be able to boot Ubuntu now that I think of it.
[22:12] <helloNL> GRUB also listed Windows
[22:12] <Jordan_U> helloNL: That will just bring you back to the grub menu if you try it.
[22:12] <helloNL> Seems you are right
[22:12] <helloNL> Fuck
[22:12] <Jordan_U> helloNL: We can fix it.
[22:13] <Jordan_U> helloNL: And again, please watch your language.
[22:13] <helloNL> Yh sorry, I swear a lot :/
[22:13] <bivo> EriC^^ it's a Linux backup, the HDD is in ntfs for portability between OSs.
[22:13] <helloNL> Do I need a Linux install USB or a Windows one Jordan_U?
[22:13] <EriC^^> bivo: ok
[22:13] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Ok. First, boot into your installed Ubuntu system and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc --frontend text".
[22:13] <glitchd> helloNL, i feel your pain lol
[22:13] <Guest39409> Anyone know anything about nfs?
[22:14] <EriC^^> bivo: it doesn't matter really
[22:14] <glitchd> Guest39409, need for speed?
[22:14] <glitchd> Guest39409, jk
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Guest39409: Try asking your actual question. If you don't get an answer here wait about 5 minutes then try again in #ubuntu-server.
[22:15] <helloNL> Jordan_U: I did the command
[22:15] <Guest39409> I have nfs setup and one of my coworkers tried to install a new hdd in our server.  That broke nfs.  Now we get a 'lockd: cannot monitor <hostname> in dmesg
[22:15] <bivo> EriC^^ http://pastebin.com/U8h0i8JF
[22:16] <Guest39409> glitchd, I wish it was a need for speed problem!
[22:16] <workisfun> hi guys, would you know how to fix this? my taskbar or menubar where all the windows can be minimized/maximized with a click, only lets me open or show a window but if i click again the window doesn't minimize
[22:17] <nacc> Guest39409: do you mean you added a drive to the underlying disk that is backing the nfs share?
[22:17] <EriC^^> bivo: ok run the command with /dev/sdb1
[22:17] <nacc> Guest39409: so is it a RAID?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> helloNL: OK, it should ask you a few questions. The first few will be about kernel arguments, just leave them at their default (even if that's empty) and hit enter to continue. When you get to the question about device installation pastebin the question.
[22:17] <Guest39409> nacc, someone physically put in a new hard drive.
[22:17] <Guest39409> nacc, we didn't have RAID or anything.
[22:18] <helloNL> Jordan_U https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nNu2GulN/irccloudcapture149488211.jpg
[22:18] <Guest39409> nacc, another thing they noticed was that before our home directory (the one shared via NFS) was sdb then it changed to sdc.
[22:18] <Jordan_U> helloNL: 1
[22:18] <nacc> Guest39409: so insterted a new drive and booted fresh?
[22:18] <Guest39409> nacc, yup.
[22:18] <nacc> Guest39409: sounds like you may have been relying on drive ordering rather than UUIDs of filesystems
[22:19] <nacc> Guest39409: which leads to issues like you are describing (or can)
[22:19] <Jordan_U> helloNL: And for text, please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[22:19] <Guest39409> nacc, yeah.. I think you're right. Any idea how to fix it, though?
[22:19] <helloNL> I am using my phone, so it's a lot to copy. So I use the build in functions of IRCCloud
[22:19] <Jordan_U> Guest39409: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab .
[22:20] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Ok, a picture is fine then.
[22:20] <helloNL> option 5 right Jordan_U?  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bjGZ8s7I/irccloudcapture-1918167806.jpg
[22:20] <nacc> Guest39409: so first things first, probably, remove the disk and see if things work :) -- then change your setup (probably /etc/fstab, maybe /etc/exports or whatever) to use non-order-dependent values
[22:21] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Correct (though hitting '5' then enter may just show more options given the [More] at the bottom of the screen).
[22:21] <Guest39409> nacc, http://pastebin.com/eQdzSypz
[22:21] <Guest39409> nacc, we removed the drive and things kind of worked..
[22:22] <Guest39409> nacc, we could access our files and stuff, but anything that needed a lock to work was broken.
[22:22] <helloNL> The other options is 6. /dev/dm6 (155285 MB; isw_gdhgdchdi_RAID0_512GB) and 7. none of the above Jordan_U
[22:22] <Jordan_U> Guest39409: Indeed, the line that someone added "/dev/sdc1   /hdd3   ext4    defaults    0   0" should be changed to use UUID= like the rest of the lines.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Select 5 still.
[22:23] <helloNL> It finished now Jordan_U
[22:23] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Great. Now follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootSectorFix to fix your Windows boot sector.
[22:24] <Guest39409> Jordan_U, and how do I get the UUID?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> Guest39409: sudo blkid
[22:24] <helloNL> Jordan_U: do I need to use the Windows one? as I might have destroyed the Windows boot sector?
[22:24] <Guest39409> Jordan_U, sounds good.  I'll try that and let you know.
[22:24] <Guest39409> Jordan_U, I probably need to do a restart after, huh?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> helloNL: No, use the "Via an Ubuntu disk" option. (You can follow the steps from your installed system, no need to reboot into a LiveUSB).
[22:25] <helloNL> Ok nice thank you
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Guest39409: First test your /etc/fstab by running "sudo umount /hdd3" then "sudo mount -a" and confirm that /hdd3 has your files as you expect it to and that there were no error messages from mount. (An error message from umount is fine if /hdd3 wasn't already mounted).
[22:27] <helloNL> I seem to have a lot of problems with connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com just works fine
[22:28] <Guest39409> Jordan_U, okay.  Did that..  No errors, and I could access the files too.
[22:28] <Jordan_U> helloNL: Feel free to switch to whatever mirror works best for you.
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Guest39409: Great. Try rebooting now. The drive should now mount properly no matter what other drives you have (or don't have) installed.
[22:29] <Guest39409> Jordan_U, thanks.  Think this will help nfs?  I could access the files and stuff before, just couldn't do any locks.
[22:30] <helloNL> Jordan_U: switching to a different acces point on the same networks works o.o
[22:30] <helloNL> I am getting more confused by the minute
[22:32] <workisfun> hi guys, i'm running into this issue but for 16.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/can-i-use-the-unity-launcher-icon-to-minimize-applications-windows
[22:32] <workisfun> my launcher icon doesn't let me minimize windows
[22:34] <malwar3hun73r> ubuntu 16.04 uses systemd as opposed to upstart, but i still see /etc/init/xxx.conf files... isn't that upstart?
[22:35] <helloNL> Jordan_U: Thanks I got it working :D
[22:35] <Jordan_U> malwar3hun73r: Systemd has SysV init backwards compatability, but mostly I think those files are simply not used when booting via systemd as those same services also have systemd service files.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> helloNL: You're welcome :)
[22:36] <helloNL> Now I still wanna do something else but that is for a different day :P
[22:36] <stochastix> what is the best way to turn off compiz?
[22:36] <malwar3hun73r> Jordan_U, ok, makes sense... i saw them in there and copied in my own but it wasn't working. i think your explanation explains what i'm seeing
[22:37] <orfeo> Hello
[22:37] <orfeo> how do I use ssh with a password already fullfiled?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> malwar3hun73r: "systemctl cat SERVICENAME_HERE" will tell you the path to, and contents of, the systemd unit service file for any given service.
[22:38] <malwar3hun73r> Jordan_U, thanks!
[22:38] <tgm4883> orfeo: are you needing to put SSH into a script or something? Generally the way to do that would be with SSH keys
[22:39] <orfeo> tgm4883: no, just for pratice
[22:39] <stochastix> fusion-icon doesnt run for crap, how ap I supposed to stop compiz other than just killing it?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> malwar3hun73r: You're welcome. If you want more information on how to overide all or part of an existing systemd service see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/659267/how-do-i-override-or-configure-systemd-services
[22:40] <stochastix> crap, you guys use that for the whole desktop?
[22:40] <lucz> how do I find out what IP address localhost resolves to?
[22:40] <tgm4883> orfeo: well the way to do ssh without a password would be to use SSH keys
[22:41] <helloNL> Would it be hard to add a /home partition on a different drive after installation?
[22:41] <Jordan_U> stochastix: Well you need to start another window manager to replace compiz with, so I would say run whichever window manager you want instead with the --replace option.
[22:42] <orfeo> tgm4883: no way to ssh root@myserver -p password... ?
[22:42] <tgm4883> orfeo: no, and it would be bad practice anyway
[22:42] <tgm4883> orfeo: I suppose you could script something with expect, but SSH keys are far easier
[22:42] <Jordan_U> stochastix: All of unity (7) is built on top of compiz, yes.
[22:43] <stochastix> going to try enabling 3d in vbox first
[22:43] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[22:43] <stochastix> it kept spiking my cpu bad at times
[22:43] <Jordan_U> stochastix: For a VM you might be happier with Xubuntu.
[22:44] <orfeo> tgm4883: alright, gonna check it out, thank you!
[22:49] <helloNL> Is there also a setting in the BIOS that removes the RAID configuration screen where you need to press CTRL+I, I don't want to see it on every boot
[22:52] <Kilo> hello people
[22:59] <stochastix> Any  ideas on good project managment software that can do the agile method, but is not exclusively set to software programming? So, for infrastructure work etc?
[23:00] <stochastix> Im trying openproject right now, its installing.
[23:01] <gebbione> anyone has any idea on what to do for this error (gnome-software:3175): Gs-WARNING **: failed to call gs_plugin_refine on appstream: Error opening file: Permission denied
[23:01] <gebbione> on 16.04
[23:03] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Whatever you are opening requires admin authority. Best be sure of what you are doing at this point . Maybe open with ' sudo -H <package> <target> " where the -H is directed to a GUI application usage .
[23:03] <samplezt> its "legal" the .torrent files host in nzl??
[23:04] <nacc> samplezt: that doesn't seem like an ubuntu support question.
[23:05] <gebbione> i saw Bashing-om this is in my syslog .. i have no idea of where it is from but i assume it was to do with gnome-software-gapplicatioin-service as at one point this was hitting 8gb memory in my RSS
[23:07] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Sorry, will take one better qualified tha I to troubleshoot that issue .
[23:07] <Bashing-om> than*
[23:13] <rexwin_> Linux ai_linux1 3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 #9 SMP Thu Oct 20 14:53:52 CEST 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:13] <rexwin_> uname -a gives the above output and cat /etc/issue doesnot spit anything. how to check my ubuntu machine version?
[23:14] <tgm4883> rexwin_: 'lsb_release -a'
[23:14] <nacc> rexwin_: lsb_release -a, but that is not Ubuntu
[23:14] <nacc> rexwin_: well, not an Ubuntu kernel, i mean
[23:14] <genii> 3.14 is pretty old
[23:16] <Tahr-user> Hola
[23:16] <Tahr-user> hello from Central América
[23:17] <cuddylier> I have a HDD that's failing and is read only. Would it be safe for me to clone that drive to a new one that has no issues? Would cloning the current drive bring across any problems?
[23:18] <bubbely> So. I follow these instructions. https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md and I don't have my x205 booting into grub? it just goes straight back to windows. help
[23:18] <Tahr-user> I think is better just copy your files, clonning is slow sometimes
[23:19] <Tahr-user> and then, try to delet all partitions and format again
[23:19] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[23:20] <lordcirth> cuddylier, if the filesystem passes fsck, before and after, then it's *probably* ok to clone.  However, a reinstall & copy files would be safer
[23:20] <cuddylier> lordcirth: Yeah, just not easy to copy files since it has a LVG/LVM etc
[23:20] <cuddylier> So was hoping to find a way to just clone it
[23:21] <bubbely> neone?
[23:23] <Transferr3> hey
[23:23] <Tahr-user> I had succesful cloned usb using puddcoppy from a portable puppy linux
[23:24] <Tahr-user> it is also possible use hard disks but i have not yet used.
[23:24] <OerHeks> bubbely, uh oh, 32 bit uefi?
[23:24] <bubbely> no im doing the 64bit iso
[23:25] <bubbely> ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64
[23:25] <OerHeks> bubbely, yes, but this manual says you have 32 bit uefi, so this needs a hack as described
[23:25] <Tahr-user> bye
[23:25] <bubbely> OerHeks: hm, how can i hack it?
[23:26] <Transferr3> guys, im new in ubuntu i just took a virtual machine from microsoft azure and trying to learn do u have any advice ?
[23:26] <OerHeks> bubbely, step 1. do you have a Separate system already running Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[23:26] <lordcirth> Transferr3, trying to learn linux & command line?
[23:26] <bubbely> OerHeks: No.
[23:27] <OerHeks> bubbely, then no go
[23:27] <bubbely> =/
[23:27] <bubbely> i can get one going
[23:27] <Transferr3> lordcirth, yes :)
[23:27] <OerHeks> sue your vendor to give a 64 bit uefi if your cpu is capable
[23:27] <lordcirth> Transferr3, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal may be useful
[23:28] <Bray90820> bubbely: Put the bootia32 in the /EFI/Boot folder on the USB and you should be good to go
[23:28] <Bray90820> https://github.com/hirotakaster/baytail-bootia32.efi
[23:29] <rexwin_> I am getting -su: /root/bin/rm: No such file or directory
[23:29] <rexwin_> what is the issue?
[23:29] <Transferr3> lordcirth, thank you so much, right now im trying to use this ubuntu vm for my restful web service's database
[23:29] <Transferr3> lordcirth, do u know how to do it ?
[23:29] <lordcirth> Transferr3, set up a sql database?
[23:29] <Transferr3> yeap kinda
[23:30] <lordcirth> Transferr3, find out what database the service recommends.  Go to their website and read the docs
[23:31] <Transferr3> lordcirth, is every information in their website ?
[23:31] <lordcirth> Transferr3, databases tend to have decent documentation
[23:33] <nacc> rexwin_: you have a rm wrapper in root's home directory's bin/ (which apparently is in PATH) and that is maybe buggy
[23:34] <Transferr3> lordcirth, thx dude
[23:34] <lordcirth> np
[23:34] <bubbely> thx Bray90820, worked
[23:34] <Bray90820> No problem
[23:34] <bubbely> z
[23:35] <glitchd> ok so im running 2 ubuntu machines, but im using 1 mouse/keyboard. i use synergy to allow me to do this. however i need to start synergy on the second computer before i actually login otherwise i have to plug a keyboard/mouse into the second machine to lauch synergy. anyway to start it at the login screen automatically?
[23:35] <moonman> Hey y'all, its moonman and we gonna kill some niggers today!
[23:35] <moonman> Killing niggers
[23:36] <yoshimitsu> will the wacom intuos draw work well on ubuntu 16.04?
[23:36] <yoshimitsu> i'm thinking of purchasing one
[23:36] <vimCoder> Does anyone know how to pass an object into a function, then to have the function run a subfunction of the object, in C++, the C++ channel is full
[23:36] <lordcirth> glitchd, systemd --user perhaps?
[23:36] <ikonia> vimCoder: try the c++ channel
[23:36] <lordcirth> glitchd, does synergy run as root or user?
[23:36] <vimCoder> it wont let me join
[23:37] <ikonia> vimCoder: you need to register
[23:37] <ikonia> vimCoder: check the freenode website for how
[23:37] <lordcirth> vimCoder, full?  IRC channels don't get full
[23:37] <glitchd> lordcirth, i dont believe so, i dont have to launch it with sude
[23:37] <lordcirth> !register | vimCoder
[23:37] <glitchd> sudo*
[23:38] <lordcirth> glitchd, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#Automatic_start-up_of_systemd_user_instances
[23:38] <lordcirth> glitchd, if you enable linger, then set synergy to run as a user service, it should be started as your user on boot
[23:39] <vimCoder> ok, thanks
[23:39] <glitchd> lordcirth, as that wiki is for arch, im wondering if linger is included in ubuntu/xubuntu
[23:40] <lordcirth> glitchd, it's systemd.
[23:40] <glitchd> lordcirth, alrighty then, ill have a read of it then
[23:40] <glitchd> lordcirth, thank you for the info
[23:40] <lordcirth> glitchd, no problem. good luck
[23:41] <glitchd> lordcirth, thx
[23:46] <Bray90820> bubbely: random question but do you have audio on whatever device you are installing ubuntu on?
[23:47] <jameskmonger> Hi guys, hoping someone can help me. I've just reformatted my USB to NTFS and I'm struggling to get it mounted.
[23:47] <John__> hello my laptop has hybrid graphics, amd/intel and now uses intel, how to change it into amd
[23:48] <lordcirth> jameskmonger, are you trying to mount it using the automatic systems that come with the desktop, or manually?
[23:48] <jameskmonger> @lordcirth I've tried both and both fail with the same message
[23:48] <lordcirth> jameskmonger, which is?
[23:48] <jameskmonger> I get "mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt"
[23:49] <jameskmonger> however "sudo umount /dev/sdb1" gives me "umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted"
[23:49] <lordcirth> jameskmonger, interesting.  Look at 'sudo lsblk -f'
[23:49] <jameskmonger> sdb1 is listed as ntfs but no mountpoint
[23:51] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: What does ' ls -al /mnt ' reveal ? and then can you try and manually UN-mount the device that is mounted @ /mnt ?
[23:52] <jameskmonger> @Bashing-om it gives these results https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5DylvzY5uq
[23:52] <jameskmonger> Do I do "sudo umount Nexus5" to unmount?
[23:52] <abraham> how do you add dvd into repositories list in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[23:53] <abraham> i was reading this, but it looks way beyond my understanding
[23:53] <abraham> http://www.hiroom2.com/2016/08/12/ubuntu-16-04-install-package-from-dvd/
[23:53] <lordcirth> abraham, apt-cdrom
[23:54] <abraham> lordcirth, where do i put that? in terminal?
[23:54] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Try as ; sudo umount /mnt/Nexus5 ' .
[23:54] <abraham> i'm not a expert user, just a basic home user, don't know many things
[23:54] <lordcirth> abraham, the link you posted looks just fine.  The first 2 commands there should work.
[23:55] <lordcirth> abraham, although your disk might be called /dev/sr0
[23:55] <jameskmonger> umount: /mnt/Nexus5: not mounted
[23:57] <abraham> i'm testing it on virtualbox, i created a APTonCD iso, and mounted it in vbox, now it appears as /media/robert/APTonCD/ in my file browser in vbox. can you relate those command to my situation so i can understand?
[23:57] <abraham> lordcirth,
[23:57] <lordcirth> abraham, try: sudo apt-cdrom -m -d /media/robert/APTonCD/ add
[23:58] <jameskmonger> @Bashing-om the response to "sudo umount /mnt/Nexus5" was "umount: /mnt/Nexus5 not mounted"
[23:59] <abraham> lordcirth, i think it went good, let me test :)
[23:59] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Weel, then - how about Try as ' sudo umount /mnt/usb1 ' ?
[23:59] <lordcirth> jameskmonger, have you unplugged and replugged this usb after reformatting?
[23:59] <lordcirth> Was it maybe mounted when you reformatted it?