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marco__hola02:37
marco__alguien habla español?02:37
yoyo!es02:37
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.02:37
marco__Ok, gracias02:38
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FacuArmoHi guys03:29
FacuArmoIs there someone online?03:29
relicIs there anyway of creating 2 seperate Xscreens with 16.10?04:08
relicnot mirrored, and not one single screen on two monitors04:08
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FireStrikerhi guys whats the system specs for kubuntu05:33
valorieFireStriker: system specs?05:36
valoriealso not all of us here are guys05:36
FireStrikerwell i use guys for everyone05:37
FireStrikerso im not just talking to all the men lol05:38
FireStrikeryea the system specs05:38
valorieFireStriker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements05:51
valorie"guys" doesn't feel very inclusive to me (female) -- I try to use people or folks05:52
user|89794Hi. How to switch my second display to duplicate mode?07:39
hateballuser|89794: Do you mean you have an external display connected to a laptop and want to mirror?07:42
hateballor 2 monitors on a desktop?07:42
user|89794I have PC and 2 monitors07:44
hateballuser|89794: arranging your monitors on top of each other in the screen configuration should make them cloned iirc07:45
hateballif you set them to same size07:45
hateballIf you are using an nvidia card with nvidia blob you probably want to use nvidia-settings to change this07:45
user|89794Thank. I did it. I set same resolution for all and it work07:55
hateball:)07:56
ChetManlyis the baloo broken in neon?08:41
user|243hi08:51
hateballChetManly: elaborate09:13
ChetManlyhateball: what09:13
hateballChetManly: ugh, nevermind I didnt even read the last bit about neon09:14
hateball!neon09:14
ubottuKDE Neon ( http://neon.kde.org/ ) is a KDE project to package the latest stable and development versions of KDE software on top of an Ubuntu base. As it is not an official Ubuntu or Kubuntu project, please use #kde-neon for discussion and support.09:14
ChetManlyhateball: I hadnt realized I asked the question in the wrong channel09:16
ChetManlynew colors in client09:17
genetronHi09:49
genetronHow to have virtual desktop grid like Ubuntu? Any help?09:49
genetronAnyone on?09:52
genetronHey09:54
hateball!patience | genetron09:54
ubottugenetron: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.09:54
hateballgenetron: do you mean to present all virtual desktops in a grid?09:55
genetronOk thanks. Yes hateball.09:55
genetronSorry for repeating.09:55
hateballgenetron: open krunner (alt+f2) search for effects09:55
genetronOk. Thanks.09:56
hateballgenetron: It should be in the bottom, window managment09:57
hateballhmmm, the preview video function seems broken for me10:03
hateballheh... videos are in mp4 and it appears this uses gstreamer... why isnt it ogg/theora or something :|10:04
hateballYep, that is indeed ugly.10:08
hateballgenetron: So the effects thing has preview videos, but you need to "sudo apt install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly" to be able to play them10:08
hateballIt should be a dependency I think, or even better have the videos in a free format like ogg/theora10:09
genetronThat was something new. I will try for sure.10:09
hateballgenetron: once you have that installed, you can click the little red film reel thing10:09
hateballeasier to see if it's really that effect you want :)10:09
hateballNow this is on 16.04 with backports ppa... can anyone running 16.10 confirm if it is the same there?10:10
genetronLots of stuff there.. m still exploring. I was talking about preview all virtual desktops in 2*2 Grid.10:11
genetronLike ctrl+s in Ubuntu10:11
hateballgenetron: yeah I know what you mean, I dont recall which one it is tho10:11
hateballatm I only use multimonitor without virtual desktops myself10:11
hateballI think the effect is called "Exposé" or so?10:11
genetronThat's cool10:11
genetronOkay. Since i don't have access currently, i will see soon. Thanks for suggestion hateball10:14
maxacHey, anyone there? I need help about migration KMail data.10:31
hateball!details10:32
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.10:32
maxacOk, I upgraded Kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 but that did not work very well - KMail could be used, but that was it, not Kaddressbook, no Korganizer and, among other problems that are of no concern here and now, KWallet only worked for 2 days and then could be started, but not used10:36
maxacSo now I deleted my /home date to set up a fresh and uncompromised system, and what I intend to do is to re-migrate my former user-data into this fresh set-up. Starting with PIM and later, my browser, cause I need KMail and Korganizer for work10:38
maxacProblem is that I found out that I cannot simply paste the KDE4 config data into the KDE directories10:40
BluesKajHey folks10:42
beelthazadheyhey10:42
BluesKajwhat's up ?10:43
maxacThe KDEUserWiki FAQs say that that can't be done unless you change the references in the config files, but I am simply lost with that: Which of those config files, which lines, which information ... HELL! I am quite feed up since somehow KWallet disappeared - with all the data in it.10:43
maxacSo, what I hope for is that there might be someone willing to coach me through these steps and helping me to avoid f***ing up the whole set up again.10:45
BluesKajmaxac, system settings>account details>Kwallet , not available?10:46
maxacIn the past I got round with similar issues ... somehow managed them, but after years of using KDE Kontact, I must have stuffed my system with a lot of erroneous data10:47
maxacWell, KWallet is fine now, on the fresh set up.10:48
* BluesKaj never bothered with Kwallet, or PIM, being a home user10:49
maxacSo I'll be able to use it - it offers itself for configuration - no problem. But how could the 'old wallet' disappear just like that? It had been working alright for two day ...10:49
maxacWell ... no silver streak on the horizon for me??10:52
acheronukBluesKaj: me neither. although shoudl be pointed out that 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrade is not supported/advised against. sadly kubuntu can't turn of the upgrade notification as that is ubuntu controlled10:52
maxacAnyway, I am past that upgrade problem. But I need to do a proper job in migrating my 'old' home data. Anybody got an idea where to get help?10:54
BluesKajacheronuk, my 14.04 to16.04 went well enough, but I wouldn't have noticed any problems with kwallet etc, anyway10:56
BluesKajmaxac, separate / and /home partitions?10:56
maxacSure10:56
maxacToo bad that it seems I must have made some mistake while backing up (which took nearly 4 days). No trace of my old wallet.10:58
Dr_CokeIs anybody fully cooked in here?a11:08
hateballmaxac: I had the same issue when migrating11:10
hateballmaxac: the wallet itself should still be in like... ~/.kde/kwallet/ or so11:10
hateballmaxac: but you need kwalletd4 installed to open it iirc, to be able to export to kwallet511:11
hateballI just flipped a table and started fresh11:11
BluesKajDr_Coke, do you have a support question or are you here to help ?11:12
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maxacSorry, hateball, I am not with you. I can find various Wallet files, but the one with the old date cannot be found anywhere. Do I get you right that that problem is about Kwallet4 and 5?? What do I have to do to fix this, I mean, is it not too late?11:36
maxacI can't  .... Ah. I just discover that libpam-kwallet4 and 5 are BOTH installed on my system. Is there a conflict or is it right?11:40
hateballas I remember you need v4 of stuff to open old wallet, that can then be migrated to v511:40
hateballlibpam-kwallet is just used to unlock the wallet when you login tho, you need other packages as well11:41
hateballmaxac: anyhow, the old stuff *should* be in ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet11:42
maxacIt is not.11:42
hateballI can however see in my case that the wallet gets touched at bootup, possibly by libpam-kwallet4. however the wallet file itself cant be opened by the actual libkf5wallet511:43
hateballmaxac: so what do you get from "find ~/ -name kwallet" ?11:44
hateballugh, it's kdewallet11:44
hateballalso my find syntax is wrong xD11:45
hateballI have to go get coffee.11:45
maxacAnyway, thank you for you help. But I have to go back to overdue work and must make another pass at this later. Enjoy your coffee, hateball.11:50
SpeConhello all15:01
SpeConi have a problem with my kubuntu / libreoffice15:01
SpeConis there any website like paste bin to show a screenshot15:01
SpeConbecause my english is not so good and i don't know how to explain my problem15:01
SpeConthere is something wrong with the items / menu in libreoffice it shows me the background of my desktop background15:02
SpeConwich is pink15:02
BluesKaj!paste15:04
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:04
SpeConok15:04
SpeConhold on15:04
SpeConhmm i need to signup on imgur first15:05
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SpeConhttp://imgur.com/gallery/TkBKh15:08
SpeConi think thats my upload can you check?15:09
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marco-parilloThere is the pink background, but do you also have fuzzy icons?15:21
marco-parillohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/162559515:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1625595 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Libre Office Icons unreadability on YY with Intel Drivers" [Low,Incomplete]15:22
dbromAnyone ising 16.0415:32
dbromusing15:32
marco-parilloI would guess most are. It is the latest LTS version. Are you having a problem?16:08
[Relic]k16.10, is there any way to stop task manager from sorting alphabetically?  sorting settings are currently "by desktop" and "do not group" yet, everytime I open a 2nd or 3rd FF window from the same instance of FF it sorts them alphabetically rather than simply placing them to the right as it should.16:11
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flo__hello16:51
flo__does anyone know a Volume Indexer To Index CD/DVD, USB and Local Drives?16:52
flo__except Basenji16:52
plakedhi18:35
plakedhola18:35
plakedalguien puede ayudarme18:35
plakedcan someone help me18:35
plaked?18:35
marco-parilloHelp you with what problem?18:39
plakedi cant set up the led lights from my intuos  wacom18:40
plakedactually im new to linux im trying and so far i like it, its hard to understand how konsole works but i think im doing fine so far18:41
genii!cli18:42
* genii smacks the bot18:42
plakedbut i cant set up the leds from my intuos tablet and i cant find where to customize it18:42
plakedalso i dont know or i cant install cryengine in kubuntu, im running kubuntu 17.0418:43
plakedso can someone help me please, im just trying to switch to GNU/Linux for real18:45
plakedbut i dont understand it as i wish right now, i mean i have just 1 week with it18:46
geniiZesty ( 17.04) is not in official release until April 2017. Support for it will begin after it is released18:46
plakedok so it means i wont have my tablet functionallity 100 until next year?18:47
geniiplaked: You should probably install 16.04.1 instead ( Xenial ) and then return with specific questions we can help with under that release instead ( which is also a Long Term Support release and will be good to use for 5 years )18:48
plakedeverything else work fine, just i cant instal cryengine and i can make my tablet leds work or make it customize18:49
plakedi cant downgrade kubuntu right?18:50
geniiplaked: If you want to keep 17.04 then you'll have to wait until April next year for help on any issues you're having with it.18:50
plakedso that mean i need to reinstal it?18:50
geniiThat's correct, there is no rollback or downgrade. a clean install is the only way to go to a lower version that what you have18:51
plakedok18:52
plakeddo you know where i can find some help to learn or understand linux18:53
plaked?18:53
plakedbetter if its in spanish18:53
geniiplaked: For a general overview of linux, The Linux Documentation Project is  decent. For Ubuntu specific , the online user manual is suggested18:54
plakedbecause some words or computer thecnisisms are hard some times18:54
geniiplaked: TLDP http://www.tldp.org/  For Ubuntu, try https://help.ubuntu.com/  and see if it offers the manual in the language of your web browser18:56
plakedomg thank you so much18:59
plakedi like kubuntu so far i hope i can stay in it from now on18:59
plakedwith out getting back to other OS19:00
plakedthanx genii19:00
geniiGlad to assist :)19:00
plaked:)19:00
geniiAlso, Kubuntu-specific but likely only in English http://docs.kubuntu.org/19:01
plakedi have a question19:01
plakedis kubuntu same thing as ubuntu just with another desktop theme?19:02
plakedcuz i cant find much things in the web but everything i red for ubuntu works in kubuntu19:02
geniiplaked: For the most part, yes. So underneath all of the *buntu ( Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc)  all the same commands you can type in will be the same19:03
plakedso just desk themes make the diferent19:04
geniiplaked: There are some differences between some of the *buntu because the Desktop Environment ( which you called desktop theme, but not really a theme) use different systems underneath. Like XFCE for Xubuntu, Qt for Kubuntu, etc19:05
plakedi mean i am pretty sure they have their diferences but to understand when im looking for something in the web19:05
plakedbut most of softwares and commands are the same?19:05
plakedalso the way to install pakages?19:06
geniiplaked: Yes, you can use any package manager from any *buntu to install applications. Ubuntu uses Software Centre, Kubuntu uses Muon Discover. Underneath they are both using apt and dpkg19:08
plakedanother thing19:09
plakedwhen i get .tar19:09
plakedand when i go to the folder after unzipping them19:10
plakedmost of the time ./configure command, make, and make install19:10
plakednever work19:10
plakedwhy?19:10
geniiplaked: I will address your questions as i can, but please know I am at my work also, so some answers may be delayed19:13
geniiplaked: Whenever possible, avoid downloading the source code for some application which you want to install. The usual procedure is: search first in the package manager for it, install it from there.19:14
plakedyes i understand, i am at work too, but i have some time while i wait for a rnder to come out19:14
plakedso its better to look for them as an ppa?19:14
geniiplaked: If not available there, next, search Launchpad for a PPA ( Personal Package Archive ) from a reputable source, which is updated regularly19:15
geniiplaked: 1) Muon Discover/Software Centre if possible. These are already ported to *buntu and considered stable versions. 2) PPAs19:16
plakedok, thanx so much19:18
geniiIf 1)  and 2) still does not have what you need, then you can find the source code and build it, but it should be compiled into a package which then apt and dpkg can install and deinstall if required. For this, it's best to read the Packaging Guide, which is not for the faint of heart19:19
geniiPackaging Guide: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/19:20
plakedok19:22
plakedim glad i can found you today19:22
plakedluv u <319:22
[Relic]Is it possible to get a plasma desktop on each seperate xscreen?19:23
geniiplaked: If you have other questions later, i am usually here on weekdays during work. I'm sure you can also find other knowledgable people here to help with specific questions or issues.19:23
plakedthank you so much genii19:25
[Relic]16.10; I seem to be able to get nvidia to give me 2 xscreens, the mouse can go to the second screen and different wall paper, but can't seem to get the monitors to work independantly ever19:25
genii[Relic]: By xscreen, please clarify. More than one X session ?19:25
geniiplaked: No problem19:26
geniiwork, afk19:26
[Relic]xscreen0 (one monitor) xscreen1 (other monitor) but sddm seems to create only 1 plasma interface and odd effects (click on one screen and the pop up creates in the other) if I don't just use xscreen0 for both monitors19:27
[Relic]basically I don't use the 2nd monitor much but want it there seperately controlled for when I need it; worked in 14.04; but not since 15.x have I ever been able to figure out how to do it again19:29
[Relic]I've looked at so many things about screen config, but can't see to figure out if there is any way to pull off 2 seperately functioning screens anymore19:40
plaked l19:40
dbromHello all I am trying to use nomachine on 16.04 and it logs my computer out each time I try to use nomachine20:01
YaiyanHow do I reset the X settings?21:32
YaiyanAfter trying to make my third screen actually work on KDE, I now get no more than a black screen on /any/ monitor if I try logging in21:32
YaiyanCTRL ALT F1 brings up a terminal still, so that's pretty much all I can play with to try and fix this21:33
YaiyanAs an aside, is plasma still simply just to unstable for me to try and carry on using it with multiple displays like this?21:35
YaiyanSeems like every single time I unsuspend then something decides to not work21:35
teledynYaiyan: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg21:40
teledynYaiyan: also if kscreen is causing issue you could try to stop it: sudo systemclt stop kscreen21:41
Yaiyanteledyn, I"m trying that right now, cheers21:44
Yaiyanteledyn, I can't try the latter command21:45
teledynit might not be a service.21:46
YaiyanAfter the first, I at least have a single display open; but I alt space doesn't work, neither does opening the menu (pressing on the K on the panel)21:46
Yaiyanhmm21:46
teledynon one of my systems i just uninstalled kscreen21:46
teledyntry removing kscreen  i think that's similar to issue i had21:47
teledynalso look in /var/log/syslog to see if any error msg from kscreen21:47
YaiyanNah, no errors in that logfile at all21:49
YaiyanAt least, no recent ones21:49
YaiyanWell, this has somehow started working now22:01
YaiyanUnplugged two screens so I could open the nvidia settings22:01
greenrunIs VirtualBox stable on Kubuntu 16 or are there persistent issues?22:47
valorieworks for me22:47
greenrunWhich versions are running?22:48
valorie!vbox22:49
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox22:49
valorie!info virtualbox22:49
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.1.6-dfsg-2 (yakkety), package size 15003 kB, installed size 67308 kB22:49
valorieI have the extension pack which lets you enlarge the window22:50
greenrunThx!22:51
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