[02:37] <marco__> hola
[02:37] <marco__> alguien habla español?
[02:37] <yoyo> !es
[02:38] <marco__> Ok, gracias
[03:29] <FacuArmo> Hi guys
[03:29] <FacuArmo> Is there someone online?
[04:08] <relic> Is there anyway of creating 2 seperate Xscreens with 16.10?
[04:08] <relic> not mirrored, and not one single screen on two monitors
[05:33] <FireStriker> hi guys whats the system specs for kubuntu
[05:36] <valorie> FireStriker: system specs?
[05:36] <valorie> also not all of us here are guys
[05:37] <FireStriker> well i use guys for everyone
[05:38] <FireStriker> so im not just talking to all the men lol
[05:38] <FireStriker> yea the system specs
[05:51] <valorie> FireStriker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[05:52] <valorie> "guys" doesn't feel very inclusive to me (female) -- I try to use people or folks
[07:39] <user|89794> Hi. How to switch my second display to duplicate mode?
[07:42] <hateball> user|89794: Do you mean you have an external display connected to a laptop and want to mirror?
[07:42] <hateball> or 2 monitors on a desktop?
[07:44] <user|89794> I have PC and 2 monitors
[07:45] <hateball> user|89794: arranging your monitors on top of each other in the screen configuration should make them cloned iirc
[07:45] <hateball> if you set them to same size
[07:45] <hateball> If you are using an nvidia card with nvidia blob you probably want to use nvidia-settings to change this
[07:55] <user|89794> Thank. I did it. I set same resolution for all and it work
[07:56] <hateball> :)
[08:41] <ChetManly> is the baloo broken in neon?
[08:51] <user|243> hi
[09:13] <hateball> ChetManly: elaborate
[09:13] <ChetManly> hateball: what
[09:14] <hateball> ChetManly: ugh, nevermind I didnt even read the last bit about neon
[09:14] <hateball> !neon
[09:16] <ChetManly> hateball: I hadnt realized I asked the question in the wrong channel
[09:17] <ChetManly> new colors in client
[09:49] <genetron> Hi
[09:49] <genetron> How to have virtual desktop grid like Ubuntu? Any help?
[09:52] <genetron> Anyone on?
[09:54] <genetron> Hey
[09:54] <hateball> !patience | genetron
[09:55] <hateball> genetron: do you mean to present all virtual desktops in a grid?
[09:55] <genetron> Ok thanks. Yes hateball.
[09:55] <genetron> Sorry for repeating.
[09:55] <hateball> genetron: open krunner (alt+f2) search for effects
[09:56] <genetron> Ok. Thanks.
[09:57] <hateball> genetron: It should be in the bottom, window managment
[10:03] <hateball> hmmm, the preview video function seems broken for me
[10:04] <hateball> heh... videos are in mp4 and it appears this uses gstreamer... why isnt it ogg/theora or something :|
[10:08] <hateball> Yep, that is indeed ugly.
[10:08] <hateball> genetron: So the effects thing has preview videos, but you need to "sudo apt install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly" to be able to play them
[10:09] <hateball> It should be a dependency I think, or even better have the videos in a free format like ogg/theora
[10:09] <genetron> That was something new. I will try for sure.
[10:09] <hateball> genetron: once you have that installed, you can click the little red film reel thing
[10:09] <hateball> easier to see if it's really that effect you want :)
[10:10] <hateball> Now this is on 16.04 with backports ppa... can anyone running 16.10 confirm if it is the same there?
[10:11] <genetron> Lots of stuff there.. m still exploring. I was talking about preview all virtual desktops in 2*2 Grid.
[10:11] <genetron> Like ctrl+s in Ubuntu
[10:11] <hateball> genetron: yeah I know what you mean, I dont recall which one it is tho
[10:11] <hateball> atm I only use multimonitor without virtual desktops myself
[10:11] <hateball> I think the effect is called "Exposé" or so?
[10:11] <genetron> That's cool
[10:14] <genetron> Okay. Since i don't have access currently, i will see soon. Thanks for suggestion hateball
[10:31] <maxac> Hey, anyone there? I need help about migration KMail data.
[10:32] <hateball> !details
[10:36] <maxac> Ok, I upgraded Kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 but that did not work very well - KMail could be used, but that was it, not Kaddressbook, no Korganizer and, among other problems that are of no concern here and now, KWallet only worked for 2 days and then could be started, but not used
[10:38] <maxac> So now I deleted my /home date to set up a fresh and uncompromised system, and what I intend to do is to re-migrate my former user-data into this fresh set-up. Starting with PIM and later, my browser, cause I need KMail and Korganizer for work
[10:40] <maxac> Problem is that I found out that I cannot simply paste the KDE4 config data into the KDE directories
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:42] <beelthazad> heyhey
[10:43] <BluesKaj> what's up ?
[10:43] <maxac> The KDEUserWiki FAQs say that that can't be done unless you change the references in the config files, but I am simply lost with that: Which of those config files, which lines, which information ... HELL! I am quite feed up since somehow KWallet disappeared - with all the data in it.
[10:45] <maxac> So, what I hope for is that there might be someone willing to coach me through these steps and helping me to avoid f***ing up the whole set up again.
[10:46] <BluesKaj> maxac, system settings>account details>Kwallet , not available?
[10:47] <maxac> In the past I got round with similar issues ... somehow managed them, but after years of using KDE Kontact, I must have stuffed my system with a lot of erroneous data
[10:48] <maxac> Well, KWallet is fine now, on the fresh set up.
[10:49]  * BluesKaj never bothered with Kwallet, or PIM, being a home user
[10:49] <maxac> So I'll be able to use it - it offers itself for configuration - no problem. But how could the 'old wallet' disappear just like that? It had been working alright for two day ...
[10:52] <maxac> Well ... no silver streak on the horizon for me??
[10:52] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: me neither. although shoudl be pointed out that 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrade is not supported/advised against. sadly kubuntu can't turn of the upgrade notification as that is ubuntu controlled
[10:54] <maxac> Anyway, I am past that upgrade problem. But I need to do a proper job in migrating my 'old' home data. Anybody got an idea where to get help?
[10:56] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, my 14.04 to16.04 went well enough, but I wouldn't have noticed any problems with kwallet etc, anyway
[10:56] <BluesKaj> maxac, separate / and /home partitions?
[10:56] <maxac> Sure
[10:58] <maxac> Too bad that it seems I must have made some mistake while backing up (which took nearly 4 days). No trace of my old wallet.
[11:08] <Dr_Coke> Is anybody fully cooked in here?a
[11:10] <hateball> maxac: I had the same issue when migrating
[11:10] <hateball> maxac: the wallet itself should still be in like... ~/.kde/kwallet/ or so
[11:11] <hateball> maxac: but you need kwalletd4 installed to open it iirc, to be able to export to kwallet5
[11:11] <hateball> I just flipped a table and started fresh
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Dr_Coke, do you have a support question or are you here to help ?
[11:36] <maxac> Sorry, hateball, I am not with you. I can find various Wallet files, but the one with the old date cannot be found anywhere. Do I get you right that that problem is about Kwallet4 and 5?? What do I have to do to fix this, I mean, is it not too late?
[11:40] <maxac> I can't  .... Ah. I just discover that libpam-kwallet4 and 5 are BOTH installed on my system. Is there a conflict or is it right?
[11:40] <hateball> as I remember you need v4 of stuff to open old wallet, that can then be migrated to v5
[11:41] <hateball> libpam-kwallet is just used to unlock the wallet when you login tho, you need other packages as well
[11:42] <hateball> maxac: anyhow, the old stuff *should* be in ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet
[11:42] <maxac> It is not.
[11:43] <hateball> I can however see in my case that the wallet gets touched at bootup, possibly by libpam-kwallet4. however the wallet file itself cant be opened by the actual libkf5wallet5
[11:44] <hateball> maxac: so what do you get from "find ~/ -name kwallet" ?
[11:44] <hateball> ugh, it's kdewallet
[11:45] <hateball> also my find syntax is wrong xD
[11:45] <hateball> I have to go get coffee.
[11:50] <maxac> Anyway, thank you for you help. But I have to go back to overdue work and must make another pass at this later. Enjoy your coffee, hateball.
[15:01] <SpeCon> hello all
[15:01] <SpeCon> i have a problem with my kubuntu / libreoffice
[15:01] <SpeCon> is there any website like paste bin to show a screenshot
[15:01] <SpeCon> because my english is not so good and i don't know how to explain my problem
[15:02] <SpeCon> there is something wrong with the items / menu in libreoffice it shows me the background of my desktop background
[15:02] <SpeCon> wich is pink
[15:04] <BluesKaj> !paste
[15:04] <SpeCon> ok
[15:04] <SpeCon> hold on
[15:05] <SpeCon> hmm i need to signup on imgur first
[15:08] <SpeCon> http://imgur.com/gallery/TkBKh
[15:09] <SpeCon> i think thats my upload can you check?
[15:21] <marco-parillo> There is the pink background, but do you also have fuzzy icons?
[15:22] <marco-parillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1625595
[15:32] <dbrom> Anyone ising 16.04
[15:32] <dbrom> using
[16:08] <marco-parillo> I would guess most are. It is the latest LTS version. Are you having a problem?
[16:11] <[Relic]> k16.10, is there any way to stop task manager from sorting alphabetically?  sorting settings are currently "by desktop" and "do not group" yet, everytime I open a 2nd or 3rd FF window from the same instance of FF it sorts them alphabetically rather than simply placing them to the right as it should.
[16:51] <flo__> hello
[16:52] <flo__> does anyone know a Volume Indexer To Index CD/DVD, USB and Local Drives?
[16:52] <flo__> except Basenji
[18:35] <plaked> hi
[18:35] <plaked> hola
[18:35] <plaked> alguien puede ayudarme
[18:35] <plaked> can someone help me
[18:35] <plaked> ?
[18:39] <marco-parillo> Help you with what problem?
[18:40] <plaked> i cant set up the led lights from my intuos  wacom
[18:41] <plaked> actually im new to linux im trying and so far i like it, its hard to understand how konsole works but i think im doing fine so far
[18:42] <genii> !cli
[18:42]  * genii smacks the bot
[18:42] <plaked> but i cant set up the leds from my intuos tablet and i cant find where to customize it
[18:43] <plaked> also i dont know or i cant install cryengine in kubuntu, im running kubuntu 17.04
[18:45] <plaked> so can someone help me please, im just trying to switch to GNU/Linux for real
[18:46] <plaked> but i dont understand it as i wish right now, i mean i have just 1 week with it
[18:46] <genii> Zesty ( 17.04) is not in official release until April 2017. Support for it will begin after it is released
[18:47] <plaked> ok so it means i wont have my tablet functionallity 100 until next year?
[18:48] <genii> plaked: You should probably install 16.04.1 instead ( Xenial ) and then return with specific questions we can help with under that release instead ( which is also a Long Term Support release and will be good to use for 5 years )
[18:49] <plaked> everything else work fine, just i cant instal cryengine and i can make my tablet leds work or make it customize
[18:50] <plaked> i cant downgrade kubuntu right?
[18:50] <genii> plaked: If you want to keep 17.04 then you'll have to wait until April next year for help on any issues you're having with it.
[18:50] <plaked> so that mean i need to reinstal it?
[18:51] <genii> That's correct, there is no rollback or downgrade. a clean install is the only way to go to a lower version that what you have
[18:52] <plaked> ok
[18:53] <plaked> do you know where i can find some help to learn or understand linux
[18:53] <plaked> ?
[18:53] <plaked> better if its in spanish
[18:54] <genii> plaked: For a general overview of linux, The Linux Documentation Project is  decent. For Ubuntu specific , the online user manual is suggested
[18:54] <plaked> because some words or computer thecnisisms are hard some times
[18:56] <genii> plaked: TLDP http://www.tldp.org/  For Ubuntu, try https://help.ubuntu.com/  and see if it offers the manual in the language of your web browser
[18:59] <plaked> omg thank you so much
[18:59] <plaked> i like kubuntu so far i hope i can stay in it from now on
[19:00] <plaked> with out getting back to other OS
[19:00] <plaked> thanx genii
[19:00] <genii> Glad to assist :)
[19:00] <plaked> :)
[19:01] <genii> Also, Kubuntu-specific but likely only in English http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[19:01] <plaked> i have a question
[19:02] <plaked> is kubuntu same thing as ubuntu just with another desktop theme?
[19:02] <plaked> cuz i cant find much things in the web but everything i red for ubuntu works in kubuntu
[19:03] <genii> plaked: For the most part, yes. So underneath all of the *buntu ( Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, etc)  all the same commands you can type in will be the same
[19:04] <plaked> so just desk themes make the diferent
[19:05] <genii> plaked: There are some differences between some of the *buntu because the Desktop Environment ( which you called desktop theme, but not really a theme) use different systems underneath. Like XFCE for Xubuntu, Qt for Kubuntu, etc
[19:05] <plaked> i mean i am pretty sure they have their diferences but to understand when im looking for something in the web
[19:05] <plaked> but most of softwares and commands are the same?
[19:06] <plaked> also the way to install pakages?
[19:08] <genii> plaked: Yes, you can use any package manager from any *buntu to install applications. Ubuntu uses Software Centre, Kubuntu uses Muon Discover. Underneath they are both using apt and dpkg
[19:09] <plaked> another thing
[19:09] <plaked> when i get .tar
[19:10] <plaked> and when i go to the folder after unzipping them
[19:10] <plaked> most of the time ./configure command, make, and make install
[19:10] <plaked> never work
[19:10] <plaked> why?
[19:13] <genii> plaked: I will address your questions as i can, but please know I am at my work also, so some answers may be delayed
[19:14] <genii> plaked: Whenever possible, avoid downloading the source code for some application which you want to install. The usual procedure is: search first in the package manager for it, install it from there.
[19:14] <plaked> yes i understand, i am at work too, but i have some time while i wait for a rnder to come out
[19:14] <plaked> so its better to look for them as an ppa?
[19:15] <genii> plaked: If not available there, next, search Launchpad for a PPA ( Personal Package Archive ) from a reputable source, which is updated regularly
[19:16] <genii> plaked: 1) Muon Discover/Software Centre if possible. These are already ported to *buntu and considered stable versions. 2) PPAs
[19:18] <plaked> ok, thanx so much
[19:19] <genii> If 1)  and 2) still does not have what you need, then you can find the source code and build it, but it should be compiled into a package which then apt and dpkg can install and deinstall if required. For this, it's best to read the Packaging Guide, which is not for the faint of heart
[19:20] <genii> Packaging Guide: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[19:22] <plaked> ok
[19:22] <plaked> im glad i can found you today
[19:22] <plaked> luv u <3
[19:23] <[Relic]> Is it possible to get a plasma desktop on each seperate xscreen?
[19:23] <genii> plaked: If you have other questions later, i am usually here on weekdays during work. I'm sure you can also find other knowledgable people here to help with specific questions or issues.
[19:25] <plaked> thank you so much genii
[19:25] <[Relic]> 16.10; I seem to be able to get nvidia to give me 2 xscreens, the mouse can go to the second screen and different wall paper, but can't seem to get the monitors to work independantly ever
[19:25] <genii> [Relic]: By xscreen, please clarify. More than one X session ?
[19:26] <genii> plaked: No problem
[19:26] <genii> work, afk
[19:27] <[Relic]> xscreen0 (one monitor) xscreen1 (other monitor) but sddm seems to create only 1 plasma interface and odd effects (click on one screen and the pop up creates in the other) if I don't just use xscreen0 for both monitors
[19:29] <[Relic]> basically I don't use the 2nd monitor much but want it there seperately controlled for when I need it; worked in 14.04; but not since 15.x have I ever been able to figure out how to do it again
[19:40] <[Relic]> I've looked at so many things about screen config, but can't see to figure out if there is any way to pull off 2 seperately functioning screens anymore
[19:40] <plaked>  l
[20:01] <dbrom> Hello all I am trying to use nomachine on 16.04 and it logs my computer out each time I try to use nomachine
[21:32] <Yaiyan> How do I reset the X settings?
[21:32] <Yaiyan> After trying to make my third screen actually work on KDE, I now get no more than a black screen on /any/ monitor if I try logging in
[21:33] <Yaiyan> CTRL ALT F1 brings up a terminal still, so that's pretty much all I can play with to try and fix this
[21:35] <Yaiyan> As an aside, is plasma still simply just to unstable for me to try and carry on using it with multiple displays like this?
[21:35] <Yaiyan> Seems like every single time I unsuspend then something decides to not work
[21:40] <teledyn> Yaiyan: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[21:41] <teledyn> Yaiyan: also if kscreen is causing issue you could try to stop it: sudo systemclt stop kscreen
[21:44] <Yaiyan> teledyn, I"m trying that right now, cheers
[21:45] <Yaiyan> teledyn, I can't try the latter command
[21:46] <teledyn> it might not be a service.
[21:46] <Yaiyan> After the first, I at least have a single display open; but I alt space doesn't work, neither does opening the menu (pressing on the K on the panel)
[21:46] <Yaiyan> hmm
[21:46] <teledyn> on one of my systems i just uninstalled kscreen
[21:47] <teledyn> try removing kscreen  i think that's similar to issue i had
[21:47] <teledyn> also look in /var/log/syslog to see if any error msg from kscreen
[21:49] <Yaiyan> Nah, no errors in that logfile at all
[21:49] <Yaiyan> At least, no recent ones
[22:01] <Yaiyan> Well, this has somehow started working now
[22:01] <Yaiyan> Unplugged two screens so I could open the nvidia settings
[22:47] <greenrun> Is VirtualBox stable on Kubuntu 16 or are there persistent issues?
[22:47] <valorie> works for me
[22:48] <greenrun> Which versions are running?
[22:49] <valorie> !vbox
[22:49] <valorie> !info virtualbox
[22:50] <valorie> I have the extension pack which lets you enlarge the window
[22:51] <greenrun> Thx!