[00:29] <daftykins> diddledan: fishy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFS1jXOv0fE
[07:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[08:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[08:32] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:38] <SuperMatt> g'day
[08:40] <brobostigon> morning SuperMatt
[08:56] <SuperMatt> all cool up in this hizzle?
[09:08] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:42] <diddledan> morning, davmor2
[09:43] <davmor2> Morning diddledan
[09:43] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Use Less Stuff Day! 😃
[09:43]  * diddledan uses more stuff
[09:44] <JamesTait> Today is a very busy day. They should consider spreading these celebrations more evenly across the year.
[09:45] <davmor2> JamesTait: this uses all the same letters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1WQCZe0B-A
[09:46] <davmor2> JamesTait: personally I think you added the space and it is actually happy useless stuff day
[09:47] <JamesTait> Home-made Bread Day; Social Enterprise Day; Take a Hike Day; World Prematurity Day; Beaujolais Nouveau Day; Unfriend Day and Petroleum Day all on the same day as Use Less Stuff Day.
[09:49] <davmor2> JamesTait: prematurity day I think would suit this channel to a tea I don't think any of us want to be mature all those responsibilities and stuff
[09:55] <JamesTait> davmor2, responsi-whatnow?
[09:59] <davmor2> JamesTait: paying bills behaving in meetings and stuff ;)
[09:59] <diddledan> speaking of which. I'm just settling-down to do paperwork and stuff
[10:00] <davmor2> diddledan: see now tell me you wouldn't rather be on a swing or something
[10:00] <diddledan> omg, a swing?!
[10:00] <diddledan> now you're talking!!
[10:00] <diddledan> care-free
[10:02] <davmor2> :)
[10:02] <diddledan> I miss being a kid
[10:02] <diddledan> :'(
[10:03] <davmor2> When I'm Primeminister I'll pass a law that means all office chairs should be swings or ufo roundabouts (I'd say slides but that is saved for the fire escapes)
[10:07] <diddledan> wha? https://www.grahamcluley.com/holding-enter-key-smash-linuxs-defenses/
[10:11] <diddledan> seems a bit of claiming the sky is falling because an acorn fell on his head
[10:12] <diddledan> the whole point of LUKS is for situations where the disk is accessible to an adversary. the encryption is to prevent reading the data which it succeeds in this case
[10:13] <diddledan> the "bug" he talks about there isn't bypassing the encryption in any way, shape, or form.
[10:21] <diddledan> http://raspi.tv/2016/new-raspberry-pi-2b-1-2-with-pi3-bcm2837-processor
[10:21] <diddledan> the pi2 has the same cpu as the pi3 now
[10:22] <diddledan> so it's effectively pi-nowifi and pi3(wifi)
[10:24] <diddledan> also, cheap androids are chinese spybots? http://www.kryptowire.com/adups_security_analysis.html
[10:31] <foobarry> ok... how do i do whether my system supports NFS 4.2
[13:00] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: Once someone has physical access, all bets are off
[13:18] <zmoylan-pi> so we need hardware switches to cut off microphone, camera, wifi, network and usb ports and some way to lock those switches
[13:19] <foobarry> apple just remove them
[13:19]  * zmoylan-pi goes looking for a modern system with a serial port... :-)
[13:22] <foobarry> but they got removed after becoming obsolete, and many had serial+usb at the same time
[13:22] <foobarry> and parallel
[13:26] <zmoylan-pi> the amount of time i used to spend syncing data off old systems via serial and parallel when everything else had failed...
[13:30] <popey> Laplink!
[13:31] <zmoylan-pi> i still have ll3.exe here... just in case... :-)
[13:31] <zmoylan-pi> installing it over serial via mode command
[13:33] <zmoylan-pi> i think it came free with a laptop my company bought in the 80s... with the serial version of the cable
[13:34] <zmoylan-pi> an epson laptop...
[13:36] <diddledan> wow, laplink is a name I've not heard in years
[13:37] <diddledan> did anyone, ever, use the windows "my briefcase" thingy?
[13:37] <BigRedS> I tried to use that once
[13:38] <diddledan> wiki says "The Windows Briefcase was introduced in Windows 95[1] and was deprecated (although not removed) in Windows 8 and completely removed from Windows 10." ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefcase_(Microsoft_Windows)
[13:39] <BigRedS> my first IT job was Windowsy and I thought I'd try to use it all properly. I think it worked, but didn't really add enough to make me stop just using removable drives like I always had
[13:39] <zmoylan-pi> replaced with the nsa rolling luggage... :-P
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> i tried briefcase when it came out... then i remembered that i kept a copy of every backup and restore program released by ms as they were all incompatible and i needed them all to recover backups people had as it sucked so much
[13:42] <diddledan> it's got all wet and widdly outside
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> windy with rain, sleet and snow showers outside atm
[13:43] <diddledan> basically all the weather
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> and intermittent sunny spells
[13:43] <diddledan> we are suffering with "all the weather" right now
[13:43] <diddledan> as in _all_ of it
[13:44] <zmoylan-pi> tis the irish 13 month rainy season outside
[13:46] <foobarry> i didn't understand what briefcase was. dropbox on a floppy?
[13:48] <BigRedS> yeah, it synced a directory on-disk with one on a removable drive
[13:48] <foobarry> sounds terrifying
[13:49] <zmoylan-pi> i don't know anyone who use it for long
[14:11] <diddledan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38012930?ocid=socialflow_twitter
[14:13] <zmoylan-pi> terrible ping times so gamers won't be happy... :-)
[14:13] <diddledan> virginmedia have a gamer-specific tier of service now
[14:13] <diddledan> ref: http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/broadband/vivid-gamer.html
[14:14] <zmoylan-pi> probably worth it for people who spend a _lot_ of money on gaming
[14:15] <diddledan> "VIVID 200 Gamer comes with totally unlimited broadband and absolutely no traffic management."
[14:15] <zmoylan-pi> more collisions then than carmageddon? :-P
[15:16] <diplo> trying to log into steam via the browser, can anyone else check if any issues ?
[15:16] <diplo> bah ffs, started working now
[15:17] <diplo> hah, successfully login and then i get a apache error :D
[15:17] <diplo> Think they're having issues
[15:48] <foobarry> is rkhunter still worth trying or are they all ancient?
[16:00] <diddledan> phoo, I'm impressed with the thoroughness of my accountancy-service-provider's verification checks for recovering lost 2fa access
[16:01] <diddledan> I needed to find several bank transactions, previous tax records and all sorts
[16:12] <popey> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Merry-Brexmas-Christmas-Sweater-Top-Jumper-Sweatshirt-Xmas-Ugly-Brexit-UK-Funny-/252572256689?var=&hash=item3ace7ac9b1%E2%93%82mwfGeMO7G5Evt0XuhwdzNvQ
[16:23] <brobostigon> i saw a better t'shirt the other day, it had a picture of patrick stewert transcribed on it, jean-luc picard for PM, :)
[16:28] <foobarry> my wife has one "make it sew". cross stitched patrick stewart
[16:28] <foobarry> http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/picard-make-it-sew.jpg
[16:33] <brobostigon> :)
[18:09] <diddledan> make it snow!
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> cold enough for it outside, but ground is wet and covered with leaves so unlikely to stick
[19:53] <daftykins> https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5dedwy/evga_1070_ftw_catching_fire_live_on_stream/
[19:53] <daftykins> wow, EVGA decided they'd save a few cents/pennies per graphics card and *not* fit thermal pads between the PWM chips and the cooler, some are overheating and or "doing a samsung"
[19:54] <zmoylan-pi> stand back, he's downloading a jpg!!
[19:54] <diddledan> eeep
[19:56] <popey> do you actually see fire?
[19:56] <popey> I just saw the stream cut
[19:58] <daftykins> there's a little flash from down there
[19:58] <popey> ahh
[19:58] <popey> missed that
[19:58] <popey> oh, haha, yeah
[19:58] <zmoylan-pi> that's what happens when you let the beancounters save a few pennies
[19:58] <daftykins> yip
[19:59] <daftykins> they released a modified BIOS that ramps the PWM fan curve up +400RPM, and offered card swaps or to send out kits for self install of the thermal pads
[19:59] <daftykins> thankfully mine was not one of those 8D
[20:00] <zmoylan-pi> dodged a fireball there...
[20:01] <daftykins> eh not really, if i'd seen the stories in time it would've been a quick fix / RMA
[20:02] <zmoylan-pi> ut you'd lose time with down system, on hold listening to muzak with phone system telling you how important your call is organising the return
[20:02] <daftykins> i remember phones
[20:03] <daftykins> but nah it's only in gaming it'll push the PWM
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> it's when you see someone using a public phone box... you want to report suspicious activity...
[20:15] <daftykins> i see Portsmouth found another war time bomb in the harbour
[20:15] <daftykins> held up the ferry to the islands!
[20:16] <daftykins> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-37997259
[20:17] <zmoylan-pi> they occasionly find grenades dating back to wwi around ireland. they never know wether to send the bomb squad or the archeology department
[20:18] <daftykins> wasn't that long ago one was found right in the mouth of our harbour
[20:18] <daftykins> all those crossing over it had never known :>
[20:19] <zmoylan-pi> how deep is the harbour... how close is the hull of a ferry passing over... might not do enough damage to sink a ferry
[20:20] <daftykins> not a clue!
[20:21] <zmoylan-pi> the water acts as a cushion so very few weapons succeed with a non contact detonation iirc
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> and there is still that munitions ship that would make a few seismographs twitch if it ever goes up off the uks south coast
[21:17] <awilkins> Can you do WOL through a SOCKS proxy?
[21:17] <awilkins> I have the remote tunnel / DDNS set up for my mum's router... bah
[21:17] <awilkins> Just realised, no SSH, no socks proxy
[21:18] <awilkins> Don't think her router has a WOL client or is sophisticated enough to do port-knocking
[21:18] <awilkins> Just a stock Huwaei
[21:18] <awilkins> Talk-Talk issue
[21:18] <awilkins> I suppose you can send a magic packet through any UDP port?
[21:19] <awilkins> If I opened a high port and configured it to NAT to broadcast...
[21:19] <daftykins> no WOL is at broadcast i think
[21:19] <daftykins> what's the *actual* think you're trying to do?
[21:20] <awilkins> Wake up mum's desktop over the internet
[21:21] <awilkins> Sling a magic packet at her router's WAN address and have it turn on her PC
[21:21] <awilkins> So I can do maintenance on it without getting her to go switch it on
[21:21] <awilkins> Can you configure NAT to broadcast?
[21:22] <daftykins> think i'd just ask 'em to wiggle the mouse... :D
[21:22] <awilkins> http://wakeonlan.me/
[21:22] <awilkins> Seems like you can
[21:23] <awilkins> Not sure her PC is configured to do it  but I can find that out next time I ssh it
[21:23] <daftykins> hrmm
[21:24] <daftykins> can be rare