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jameskmongerBashing-om umount /mnt/usb1 gives the same00:00
jameskmongerlordcirth I've unplugged and replugged and also rebooted the machine00:00
abrahamlordcirth, now i want to update all my packages from my cd-rom, and not from internet, can i force that somehow so when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it only upgrade from my cd-rom and not from internet?00:00
Bashing-omjameskmonger: What says ' cat /proc/mounts ' ?00:01
jameskmonger@Bashing-om this is the output https://thepasteb.in/p/Y6hkK4mPR44F700:02
lordcirthabraham, edit /etc/apt/sources.list , where it just put the line configuring the CD, and comment out the internet lines by putting a # at the beginning00:02
lordcirthabraham, however, note that this may leave the computer vulnerable if you don't do updates.00:03
abrahamlordcirth, haha that was intelligent :) thanks, let me try00:03
abrahami will revert it back to internet once i update all that i have local00:03
lordcirthabraham, I guess you have an expensive metered connection?00:05
abrahamyes, and i have three machines to keep updated :( so i update one of them i plan to move those updates to other machines by APTonCD00:05
abrahamthats why i'm testing it now on vbox first00:06
lordcirthabraham, you should use apt-cacher-ng or squid-deb-proxy00:06
lordcirthit's much easier00:07
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Well .. it is not in the kernel, so must be dirty on the disk .. NTFS best handled on a Windows machine. Ya got access to a Windows box ?00:08
jameskmonger@Bashing-om Yeah I do00:08
jameskmongerBashing-om plug the USB there and format it to NTFS on it?00:09
e3Hello, does somebody tried to install ubuntu on the new MacBookPro 13,1?00:10
abrahamlordcirth, ok i commented out all internet repos except cd repo, now when i do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it goes well, shows me all my updates, but when i type "y" to install them it says "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'APTonCD for ubuntu xenial - amd64 (2016-11-17 4:30) DVD1' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press Enter00:11
lordcirthabraham, it says /media/cdrom ?00:11
abrahamyes00:11
lordcirthabraham, does the entry in sources.list say  /media/cdrom or /media/robert/APTonCD/ ?00:11
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Naw .. I do think all ua want to do is clear the dirty bit Windows command 'chkdsk' . See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183680 .00:13
lordcirthBashing-om, you can clear the dirty bit on Linux, if that's the problem00:14
abrahamlordcirth, it says in sources list, "deb cdrom:[APTonCD for ubuntu xenial - amd64 (2016-11-17 04:30) DVD1]/ /00:14
jameskmongerBaching-om lordcirth When I now mount through the system menu (not command line) I get this:  https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOJ3qljg7t300:15
jameskmongerBashing-om ^00:15
lordcirthabraham, no path at all?00:15
abrahamlordcirth, no00:15
lordcirthabraham, well, it's probably easiest to just remount the DVD at /media/cdrom like it expects00:16
abrahamlordcirth, how?00:16
lordcirthabraham, you mounted it through GUI or command line?00:17
lordcirthunmount it however you mounted it00:17
Bashing-omlordcirth: Uh huh . on linux able to clear the diry bit .. but I do advocate Windows tools for Windows issues .. IF we can get to a Windows box . Besides I have not done it .. and as such :)00:17
abrahamlordcirth, i inserted it in vbox, from my host machine's vbox interface00:17
lordcirthabraham, I mean inside the VM.  Whether it's a real disk or not doesn't matter00:18
abrahamand i automatically mounted00:18
lordcirthabraham, ok.  so look at 'lsblk -f' to see what the CD drive is called, then 'umount /dev/sr0' or whatever00:19
abrahamlordcirth, i didn't mount it inside vm, it automatically got mounted at /media/robert/APTonCD/00:19
lordcirthabraham, but it is a CD inside the VM, right?  Not just a shared folder or something?00:20
abrahamlordcirth, i don't know, i didn't modify anything, it's as default, i just inserted it in vbox and it appeard on my desktop already mounted00:21
jameskmongerBashing-om lordcirth I've done chkdsk three times and I get this output when mounting on Linux https://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh0VRmnBXDh400:21
abrahamlordcirth, sr0    iso9660 APTonCD 2016-11-17-04-30-43-00               /media/robert/APTonC00:21
abrahamlordcirth, sr0    NAME: iso9660   FSTYPE: APTonCD   LABEL: 2016-11-17-04-30-43-00              MOUNTPOINT: /media/robert/APTonC00:22
lordcirthabraham, ok, good.  so: sudo umount /dev/sr0 ;  sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom ; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom00:22
Bashing-omjameskmonger: So .. we look there ' ls -al /media/james ' .. Looks like ya stuck in the drive, and at some point pulled it out with out "UNmounting" .00:23
jameskmongerBashing-om `ls -al /media/james` gives me the following (empty) https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBnygOLNKS800:24
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Ouch .. ya got me now .. Will take someone with more smarts than I possess at this point to know the why .00:26
abrahamlordcirth, thank you so much, this solves my problem. now it's upgrading from my cdrom00:26
lordcirthabraham, np.  Now, for your 3 machines, you should set up apt-cacher-ng00:26
abrahamlordcirth, is there a tutorial for that?00:26
jameskmonger:( Thank you for the help anyway Bashing-om00:26
abrahamlordcirth, oh is it a server? do i need a spare machine to set up that?00:27
lordcirthabraham, it needs to run on a machine which will be running and on the network, yes00:27
lordcirthabraham, then whenever any of them do updates, it will cache the packages for the rest00:28
lordcirthabraham, http://www.tecmint.com/apt-cache-server-in-ubuntu/00:28
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Another thought ! .. Are you explicitly mounting the drive in /etc/fstab ?00:28
lordcirthabraham, if the cache server goes down, the computers won't be able to update or install packages unless you fix it or disable the caching00:29
jameskmongerNo I'm not Bashing-om, should I be?00:30
Thomasshi all00:31
abrahamlordcirth, that looks complicated for me for now as a new linux user. i think APTonCD is better and simple. and i also don't have a spare pc, i understand the concept somewhat of caching updates as it was also on windows for windows updates cache servers, but anyway thank you so much for kind advice :)00:31
Thomassanyone here tell how to install teamspeak on unbuntu00:31
Bashing-omjameskmonger: No, a removable device should not be mounted in that cinfig file . But was a thought from the reported error situation .00:31
lordcirthabraham, it may be harder at first, but I predict that shuffling CDs between 3 PCs will get old very quickly00:32
jameskmongerIs there a way I can clear all mountings beside HDD Bashing-om?00:32
abrahamlordcirth, yes, i still need help with mounting an iso :p00:32
jameskmongerBashing-om in order to start fresh? My USB works fine in my windows machine00:33
lordcirthabraham, mount -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile /mountpoint00:33
abrahamlordcirth, do i always have to write iso9660 ? or is it a file name?00:34
lordcirthabraham, squid-deb-proxy is easier to set up than apt-cacher-ng, but it's harder to confirm that it's working and I thought there was a chance you could accidentally download 3 times not knowing it wasn't working00:34
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Well .. we can again look and see what the kernel may see . what shows ' sudo blkid ; sudo fdisk -lu ' ?00:34
lordcirthabraham, you may not have to these days.  It's the filesystem format, so it knows the file is in ISO format00:34
lordcirth-t means 'type'00:34
Thomassany gurus in here00:35
abrahamlordcirth, that helps a lot bro, i learnt very important command from you today :)00:35
lordcirthabraham, no problem.  Have fun00:35
lordcirth!ask Thomass00:35
lordcirth!ask | Thomass00:35
ubottuThomass: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:35
Thomassi need to install teasmpseak in ubuntu on virtualbox00:36
Thomasswait00:36
Thomassjust in ubuntu desktop00:36
jameskmongerBashing-om this is before I insert the USB: https://thepasteb.in/p/WnhgcnRDrY50BhE, this is after: https://thepasteb.in/p/RghnwzoYKLYCz00:36
Thomasshow do i run it..00:36
dnThomass  whats your ubuntu version and arch00:37
lordcirthThomass, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602091/teamspeak-3-on-ubuntu00:37
Thomassthe latest version 16 lordcirth00:38
AndorinI've installed ssh on a computer and forwarded port 22 in the router to the computer's static IP address. In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have disabled password authentication and root login, and I have generated an ssh key on my laptop to use to login. Do I need to do anything else to be reasonably safe from unauthorized access?00:39
lordcirthAndorin, that's fine, provided you get all security updates as soon as they come out00:40
Andorinlordcirth: Great, thanks.00:40
lordcirthAndorin, you should set security updates to be automatic if you haven't already00:40
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Looks good to me .. and waht no when in the GUI you select 'unmount" - Removable Disk - . By the way a space in a file name in linux is tough to deal with .00:42
dnlordcirth hi,do you know how to achive bond1 in 14.04 LTS ?00:42
Phaselooking at ssh_config, I don't see a good way to execute a command on the remote server upon successfully sshing in -- except *maybe* ProxyCommand -- any ideas?00:42
lordcirthdn, a NIC bond?  I have done it, it's been a while00:42
lordcirthPhase, what exactly do you want to do?  Trigger a script every time someone successfully logs in?00:43
Bashing-omjameskmonger: * what now happens when in the GUI **00:43
lordcirthdn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding00:43
Phaselordcirth: Yep. Basically, one of our servers is only accessible from another server. So, on my local machine I want to setup my ssh config so I can do `ssh server` and then it'll connect to it, and THEN ssh into the one I actually want.00:44
dnlordcirth  thanks;00:44
jameskmongerOkay, in the GUI I can unmount it00:44
jameskmongerRemounting it fails00:44
jameskmongerI have formatted it as FAT through the GUI and it works. Progress? @Bashing-om00:44
lordcirthPhase, how about putting in .bashrc:   alias servername='ssh server ssh server2' ?00:44
Phaselordcirth: I use ~/.ssh/config (man ssh_config) with Host, HostName, User, Port directives00:45
PhaseI'd like to do it from there, if possible00:45
lordcirthPhase, what will you do if you want to ssh to the first server, then?00:46
Phaselordcirth: different name :)00:46
lordcirthan alias is the easiest way, I think00:46
Phasebleh00:47
Phasethanks for trying at least lordcirth00:47
lordcirthnot to mention less tampering with ssh settings that might mess up ssh'ing elsewhere00:48
PhaseThere is zero chance it'll mess up sshing to some other box00:48
Bashing-omjameskmonger: It is progress if it works amd you are happy .. but be aware that the FAT file system has serious limitations .00:49
jameskmongerYeah I need NTFS. When I reformatted to NTFS, it failed to mount again00:49
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Yuk .. Will take some one who knows the NTFS file system .. Not me there .00:51
jameskmongerThank you so much for the help nonetheless Bashing-om00:51
jameskmongerDo you have a PayPal account or similar where I can send some small money your way?00:51
Phaselordcirth: This is the idea, or how I want it to work but doesn't seem possible from all my googlin' :P http://pastebin.com/qGDgrckm00:53
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Not needed to monitarily emburse .. just pass it on down the line what you learn and know .00:53
joegiampaoliSo HP laptop does suspend when telling it to, but it won't when closing lid. Anyone with this issue? Power management setting are set to suspen when closing lid. Any tips? Xubuntu 16.0400:53
jameskmongerWill do Bashing-om, thanks again00:53
jameskmongerWait00:53
jameskmongerlet me pass it on to you00:53
jameskmongersudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb100:54
lordcirthPhase, well, if you change the ssh port on the privateserver, you could set up an ssh tunnel or something?00:54
jameskmongerI can now mount successfully. No idea what happened there but it works now00:54
Phaselordcirth: I'd just go with the alias at that point00:54
Phasemeh00:54
lordcirthPhase, I would go with the alias from the beginning, without even looking, tbh.  it works fine00:54
Phasewe're a group of like >15 people, I wanted to make easy to drop in should another person with access want to00:55
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Great .. like I say .. dirty bit ... that Window on a Windows file system should have been able to deal with .00:55
Phasee.g. wget myfancyconfig -O ~/.ssh/config ...and done!00:55
PhaseI can still rig it up like that, just takes more effort00:55
jameskmongerBashing-om I'm not sure why Windows didn't fix it. I did chkdsk three times and also reformatted it to NTFS on Windows00:55
Phase:P00:55
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lordcirthPhase, I see.  if you get more than one private server like that, the correct answer would be a VPN00:56
PhaseThat's the only one currently, but yeah00:56
boomguten morgen00:57
Bray90820So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output00:58
mikeymophey guys00:58
mikeymopI'm trying split half of my network off and bypass the primary router00:58
mikeymopI have a 4 port unmanaged switch inbetween my router and modem00:59
glitchdlordcirth, hmmm....that info actually isnt helping me at all..00:59
lordcirthBray90820, did you run the self-check like I suggested earlier?01:00
lordcirthglitchd, how so?01:00
glitchdlordcirth, because from what i gather from the page, its more about autologins than auto running a program01:01
glitchdlordcirth, but ill just keep looking, thank you for your help anyways.01:01
lordcirthglitchd, the 'linger' setting is supposed to let you run a service as your user at boot, isn't it?01:02
Bray90820lordcirth: I did and the USB was fine01:02
Bashing-omjameskmonger: Well, just relieved it all worked out .. NTFS is not my forte, as you now know :)01:03
lordcirthBray90820, may I ask why you were reinstalling so much?01:03
pot_fileBashing-om, hello01:03
fn2Hello everyone :)01:03
Bashing-ompot_file: Yes ??01:03
Bray90820I have an unrelated issue and I have been trying different distros and flavors to see if the issue is present there01:03
pot_filefn2, hello01:04
Bray90820lordcirth: I have an unrelated issue and I have been trying different distros and flavors to see if the issue is present there01:04
glitchdlordcirth, idk ill keep looking and reread the webpage, but again, thx for the help01:04
pot_file1784 an growing...!01:06
Bray90820lordcirth: So where should I go from here?01:08
lordcirthBray90820, I don't know01:08
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glitchdhow can i get synergy to start before login so i can use the keyboard from the host machine to login on the guest?01:31
Phaselordcirth: ProxyCommand was indeed the solution to my ssh_config troubles. Here's a working example solution: http://pastebin.com/BySUFTnG01:31
Phase(uses netcat, but I'm okay with that.)01:31
kenringlitchd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto01:32
lordcirthPhase, wait, netcat inside ssh or outside?01:35
Phaseinside01:35
Phaseactually01:36
Phasescratch netcat01:36
PhaseI found a better solution01:36
Phasessh -W01:36
elo?01:36
lordcirthPhase, oh, that looks interesting01:37
Phasemhm01:38
hurub01hello01:38
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hurub01i mistyped my password like a moron how can i get my password?01:38
lordcirthhurub01, you mean you don't have your Ubuntu password?01:39
hurub01i have my password01:39
hurub01i had to type the password a few times to log in01:39
hurub01then i tried installing a new program and i typed my password slower and correctly to realize that i mistyped it =*(01:40
hurub01i got past the login screen after a few password tries01:40
lordcirthhurub01, you mistyped while logging in, or while setting it the first time?01:40
hurub01while setting it for the first time01:40
hurub01i'm still logged in01:40
Bashing-omhurub01: reset your password -> www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .01:40
hurub01thank you so much Bashing-om01:41
lordcirthhurub01, just go to Users and Groups and change it, or 'passwd'01:41
Bashing-omhurub01: ^ easier as lordcirth advises :)01:42
hurub01dependency failed on swap01:44
hurub01dependency failed for* swap01:44
lordcirthyou only need the reset instructions if you don't have the current password01:45
hurub01okay, it said that because i didn't enter the smae password twice01:45
hurub01same01:45
hurub01wow i can't type today, i'm so sorry thank you for all the help01:45
magicmanzhas anyone ever setup luks using lvm partitions on two different drives?01:49
bubbely"The grub-ei-ia32" package failed to install into /target/ without the grub bootloader, the installed system will not boot02:14
bubbelyhelp.02:14
usr13!boot-repair | bubbely02:19
usr13!bootrepair | bubbely02:20
ubottububbely: Boot-Repair is a simple tool to repair frequent boot issues you may encounter in Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for more info.02:20
OerHeksnot grub-ei-ia32 but grub-efi-ia32, read carefull https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md02:21
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OerHeks...02:21
bubbelyu told me to put bootia32.efi in my boot folder and i did... what are u suggesting OerHeks02:22
OerHeksno i told you nothing, you came up with this guide ..02:23
OerHeksi said: sue your vendor to give a 64 bit uefi if your cpu is capable02:23
OerHeksbut ei > efi is clearly a typo02:24
magicmanzhow is 16.10? anyone running it yet?02:24
OerHekssome have benefit with newer kernl for newer hardware, else i would stay on 16.04 LTS02:25
GeekDudeI'm having a strange issue with dnsmasq where it occasionally uses 100% cpu and queries the same address hundreds of times per second. I've installed the full dnsmasq package. If I run `sudo service dnsmasq stop` my computer stops spamming the upstream DNS server. If I later start it again, it goes back to using 100% cpu and hammering the upstream DNS server.02:25
lordcirthGeekDude, do the logs say anything?02:26
GeekDudeWhich logs specifically? The logs of the upstream DNS server has about 5.7 gigabytes of "query[SOA] local from 192.168.1.100"02:28
Bray90820So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output02:28
GeekDudewhere my local machine is 192.168.1.10002:28
Bray90820Sorry to ask yet again02:28
lordcirthBray90820, have you tried 16.04?02:29
Bray90820lordcirth: when I first got the tablet yes02:29
lordcirthBray90820, have you tried it since it stopped working?02:29
bubbelyoh, Bray helped me, not u oerheks =p02:30
bubbelyBray, "The grub-ei-ia32" package failed to install into /target/ without the grub bootloader, the installed system will not boot02:30
Bray90820I have not02:31
Bray90820I was just about to do that after you suggested it02:31
Bray90820lordcirth:02:31
bubbelyBray90820: any ideas?02:33
Bray90820bubbely: What do you mean?02:33
bubbelyBray90820: "The grub-ei-ia32" package failed to install into /target/ without the grub bootloader, the installed system will not boot... i get this msg, u helped me earlier with the .efi file, any suggestiosn?02:42
Bray90820bubbely: Do you have wifi turned on?02:42
bubbelyno02:42
Bray90820And connected to a networkTurn wifi on connect to a network and all should be good02:43
Bray90820Turn wifi on connect to a network and all should be good02:43
bubbelyturn it on in system settings?02:44
bubbelyBray90820?02:48
Bray90820When you install ubuntu make sure you are connect to the internet02:48
Bray90820bubbely:02:48
bubbelyBray90820: Im having some trouble here, I enter the settings and there is no WiFi option, no list of available networks etc02:51
Bray90820What device do you have?02:51
bubbelyasus x205t02:53
bubbelyI might haev found my answer02:54
bubbelyone moment02:54
bubbelywhere can i find terminal in the try ubuntu wihtout installing?02:55
bubbelynm02:55
Bray90820So did you get your issue figured out?02:58
ericx2xhey03:05
Bray90820bubbely: You good?03:12
bubbelyinstalling with wifi enabled, let u know in a bit03:12
foul_owlHi folks. I'm getting sick of typing "& disown; exit" after each gui process I invoke via the cli. (ie, inkscape, steam, etc) Is there some way to alias that to a symbol in bash? I would prefer to condense that all down to one character if possible. Prefer to not make a new alias for every gui process I invoke. Thoughts? Thanks!03:12
Bray90820bubbely: Yeah you should be good03:13
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JohnMcClainI am running a command with PHP's exec() on Ubuntu, pdflatex... Sometimes it takes time. Is there a way to wait until the command is finished before running the next exec() command, convert?03:21
anuraggoelkkcj03:25
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Bray90820lordcirth: as suspected no audio there ether but that's just a kernel issue03:28
hectorHi03:29
stacks88trying to do unattended upgrades on ubuntu 16.04.. i did the dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low unattended-upgrades , but i notice in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, the first line after Allowed-Origins { is: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}"; -- thats it.. Is that normal? this is what it looks like on ubuntu 14.04: http://i.imgur.com/D19ho2P.png (which looks more normal) but on ubuntu03:31
stacks8816.04, http://i.imgur.com/ZYTsfbq.png ?? should i just ignore that line ?03:31
stacks88and what would that line mean?03:31
hectorHi03:31
hectorPpl, i have a little little problem03:33
hectorThats a channel related to Lubuntu questions_03:33
hector?03:33
hectorWell, i've installed Lubuntu 16.04.1, but now the computer can't recognize the WIFI card.03:33
lordcirthhector, is it enabled in hardware?  Was Windows on it previously?03:34
hectorYes, was Windows on this computer previously (W7 Home Premium SP1), i'm connected by an external wifi card now.03:36
Sir_AndreiHi girls!03:37
lordcirthhector, ah, 7 shouldn't have caused the locking problem I was thinking of, then03:38
lordcirthhector, did you look up the card model?03:39
hector`Yes, here i have it03:40
hector` producto: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY03:40
hector`fabricante: Broadcom Corporation03:41
hector`Oh..., http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers03:42
brandon19993078hola03:43
doghackit_Does anyone know if there is a way to make mysql a virtual package?03:43
brandon19993078hi03:43
hector`Hola brandon1999307803:43
brandon19993078de donde son03:44
hector`Aca hablamos ingles trolazo, en caso de no hacerlo te mandan a la mierda (Here we speak english...)03:44
brandon19993078ok03:44
Bray90820Is there any difference between the kernel found in ubuntu unity and ubuntu genome03:44
doghackit_I would like MariaDB to satisfy dependencies on MySQL03:44
hector`04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)03:45
hector`That's my network controller03:45
lordcirthdoghackit_, mariadb says: Provides: virtual-mysql-server03:46
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VystyHi! I'm trying to get a monitor to the resolution I want using xrandr commands in the Terminal, and I suddenly have been getting errors. Can anyone help walk me through figuring this out?03:49
VystyAnyone kicking around here?03:50
glitchdyep03:50
VystyLook who just walked in.03:50
VystyI'll re-pose my question.03:50
VystyHi! I'm trying to get a monitor to the resolution I want using xrandr commands in the Terminal, and I suddenly have been getting errors. Can anyone help walk me through figuring this out?03:50
glitchdkickin babies03:50
glitchdi could try but no promises03:50
glitchddoes the monitor support the suggest resolution?03:51
VystyYea, I was using it all the time before I upgraded.03:51
Vystyand even after the upgrade it worked for a brief period of time. Now I'm getting errors.03:51
glitchdif your not super comfortable with command line, you can search for arandr(i believe thats the name) its a graphical frontend to xrandr03:52
glitchdwhat are the errors?03:52
VystyThis is what I ran before to have it work: cvt 1680 1050 --> xrandr --newmode "x" <cvt output> --> xrandr --addmode HDMI-0 x03:53
glitchderrors03:53
glitchd?03:53
Vystyhttp://pastebin.com/dJkQTj5703:53
glitchdis the x after newmode supposed to be X03:53
Vystyx is the name I make up for it.03:54
VystyIt can be whatever I want.03:54
glitchdoh03:54
glitchdlol ok03:54
VystyI have to do it every time I restart the computer, so I made it simple.03:54
glitchdwell do the names match when u use the command?03:54
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VystyYup.03:54
VystyLike I said, I've done this for years and now it suddenly procuded errors.03:54
glitchdhave you gotten it to work at all since the upgrade?03:55
VystyYes.03:55
VystyIt worked for a brief time then the errors started.03:55
glitchdmaybe there is a process hanging in the background causing the errors now03:55
glitchdlike a zombied xrandr03:56
glitchdps -A | grep xrandr03:56
glitchdrun that03:56
VystyDone.03:56
glitchdanything enlightening pop up?03:57
VystyNothing at all.03:57
VystyNot just nothing enlightening, literally nothing.03:57
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glitchdmmk03:58
glitchdhmm03:58
glitchdis xrandr detecting the other display?03:58
VystyI dunno. How do I know if it's doing that?03:59
VystyActually, yes, looks like it.03:59
VystyI just have nothing to apply to the display.03:59
glitchdxrandr -q04:00
glitchdthat will show the displays it detects04:00
VystyYup.04:00
VystyIt's showing.04:00
VystyCurrently on 1024x76804:00
Vystyand I want 1680 x 105004:00
glitchdcheck your xorg.conf under the section display and see if that resolution is listed04:02
VystyHow do I check that?04:02
glitchdwhat version of ubuntu are u in again?04:03
Vysty16.0404:03
angrycoasttest04:03
Vystytest test!04:03
glitchdshould be in /etc/X1104:04
glitchdno test!04:04
glitchdprize!04:04
VystyHow do I view it via the Terminal?04:04
angrycoasttest04:05
kostkon!test04:05
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...04:05
Sorchit works!04:05
angrycoastITS ALIVE!!!!04:05
glitchdsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:06
angrycoastjust upgraded to 1604:06
Sorchhow are you liking it?04:06
VystyFound the folder. Not Seeing it in here.04:06
glitchdlol me either04:07
glitchdlemme figure this out04:07
glitchd1 min04:07
VystyWhile you're looking at that, think about this as well: none of my data was deleted during the upgrade, but it's all not in the right spot.04:08
glitchdtip for the future- avoid in place upgrades. try to do fresh installs instead. it eliminates alot of these stupid problems.04:10
VystyYou know, I'm thinking of doing that.04:11
VystyJust doing another backup right now and formatting the whole damn thing.04:11
glitchdVysty, im gonna pm you so i dont have to paste a large chunk of data in here and make people peepee their panties04:12
VystyI want people to peepee their panties, though.04:12
witeshark43CVE-2016-4484 - comments?04:12
angrycoastI just upgraded to 16.04 and now when I right click the top of a window it minimizes it, how do I get it to be a drop down window again04:12
angrycoastI'm tring to do the "Always on top" option04:12
witeshark43angrycoast, what pc?04:12
glitchdwiteshark43, Cryptsetup Initrd root Shell04:13
witeshark43glitchd, yes, yes04:14
witeshark43nothing more to say>04:14
witeshark43?04:14
glitchdwiteshark43, so u like to hold the enter key for a long time huh?04:14
stacks88trying to do unattended upgrades on ubuntu 16.04.. i did the dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low unattended-upgrades , but i notice in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, the first line after Allowed-Origins { is: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}"; -- thats it.. Is that normal? this is what it looks like on ubuntu 14.04: http://i.imgur.com/D19ho2P.png (which looks more normal) but on ubuntu04:15
stacks8816.04, http://i.imgur.com/ZYTsfbq.png ?? should i just ignore that line ?04:15
witeshark43glitchd, NOPE, but i was phishing for some kernel update expectations04:15
lordcirthstacks88, where is this printing?04:16
witeshark43everyone knows it's not really a serious issue04:16
kostkonwiteshark43, it needs physical access to work. anyway, looks like is on low priority right now https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-4484.html04:16
stacks88lordcirth I am not sure what you're talking about.. Where is *what* printing, and printing what???? What does printing have to do with this04:18
witeshark43kostkon, there we go - TY that's the reply i was seeking! :)04:18
kostkonwiteshark43, np04:18
witeshark43and yes, i am aware of the computer proximity necessity :)04:18
Bashing-omstacks88: From mine : Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins { >> "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}";04:18
stacks88Bashing-om: It sounds like you're saying, you have the same line as i do, i dont doubt that, i am sure everyone does, but im just unsure what that line is suppose to mean.. but i guess ill just consider it normal, i guess04:19
azizLIGHTwhen will ubuntu 14.04 get firefox 50?04:19
kostkonwiteshark43, proximity and enough time to press enter so many times04:19
amber_hey i'm having this weird problem in firefox *and* chrome where a lot of HTTPS pages that work for everyone else, always give me the "this page is insecure/invalid cert" page04:20
lordcirthstacks88, sorry, I did not see your other post04:20
lordcirthamber_, is your clock accurate?04:21
amber_lordcirth, hella accurate04:21
witeshark43kostkon, yup04:22
scwizardwhat's the simpliest way to set up dnscaching?04:23
scwizarddnsmasq does a lot of other stuff04:23
lordcirthamber_, View Certificate and see if you can get more info04:24
LinuxNovicehi, can anyone explain to me how to install Mate DE on my Lubuntu Yakkety Yak?04:25
scwizardactually pdns recursor should be straightforward04:26
amber_lordcirth, "there are issues with the site's certificate chain (net::ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIR"04:27
lordcirthamber_, that should be a non-fatal error04:28
troy_16bitHello World04:29
Bashing-om!info mate-desktop | LinuxNovice04:30
ubottuLinuxNovice: mate-desktop (source: mate-desktop): Library with common API for various MATE modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16.0-1 (yakkety), package size 24 kB, installed size 89 kB04:30
lordcirthamber_, can you give an example page that doesn't work for you?04:30
amber_lordcirth, https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.7/css/bootstrap.min.css04:31
lordcirthamber_, yep, looks fine.  Are you running a browser beta or anything like that?04:33
amber_Nope.04:33
amber_Someone once suggested that some certificate authority may not be in my local... something file04:34
amber_i can't remember what that was04:34
brandon19993078hi04:43
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brandon19993078esto que es04:43
brandon19993078parece un chat de la deep web jaja04:44
reisiojaja04:45
brandon19993078hablen04:45
witeshark43oh BTW everyone, i have a win PC just to see04:48
blue-cheeseto see what04:49
qwerzxcjLol04:49
reisiowith his eyes, duh04:49
witeshark43to start: if that OS had any security, it would actually be quite cool04:49
witeshark43reisio, yes!04:49
witeshark43well it's getting late - night everyone!04:50
blue-cheesenite nite04:50
reisionot sure I can think of anything in Windows I like once you're able to compare it to any alternative04:50
blue-cheeseI did like windows movie maker04:51
witeshark43reisio, just the graphics really04:51
witeshark43nite!~04:51
brandon19993078hi04:53
reisiohi04:54
brandon19993078where are u from?04:54
glitchdearth04:56
brandon19993078fuck04:56
brandon19993078I am from the moon04:56
VystyCheap real estate up there.04:57
VystySolar power is up but not much else.04:57
brandon19993078wtf is this04:57
VystyToo many regulations on the books to take advantage of the helium isotopes good for fusion fuel.04:57
brandon19993078who knows a very good chat?04:58
VystyDunno, but this place is to help people with Ubuntu.04:58
kostkon!alis04:58
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http04:58
brandon19993078how can I enter in dunno?04:59
VystyI'm trying to change my 2nd monitor resolution using xrandr commands in the terminal and I've suddenly been getting error messages. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?04:59
Vystybrandon: /join #dunno04:59
irvis there a way to do-release-upgrade from vivid to xenial? or will i be doing a fresh install? it's a unifi controller so probably pretty easy to backup, etc05:01
PsyMar_Linuxis there a way to make the list of users appear on the right side all the time in xchat like it does in other chat clients I'm used to05:02
reisio#hexchat would know05:04
reisiocan't say I ever found a use for the user list, I always hid it05:04
Jordan_Uirv: It's possible to dist upgrade, doing one upgrade to 15.10 then another from 15.10 to 16.04, but it's probably easier to just re-install. (also, all three releases are EOL, the upgrade process has extra steps).05:05
kostkonPsyMar_Linux: are you using xchat-gnome?05:05
PsyMar_Linuxyes, is there a way to get a normal xchat in ubuntu?05:05
PsyMar_LinuxI tried apt-get install xchat but got nothing05:05
Jordan_U!info hexchat | PsyMar_Linux05:06
ubottuPsyMar_Linux: hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.12.0-2ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 336 kB, installed size 971 kB05:06
kostkonPsyMar_Linux: it's he chat now05:06
PsyMar_Linuxah05:06
PsyMar_Linuxthanks for help, sorry, forgot to thank before I closed it05:08
c1pherhi do any guys use pcbsd as their daily os05:17
c1pher?05:17
c1pheror bsd related systems as daily os05:18
c1pherinstalled for laptop05:18
cfhowlettc1pher, perhaps you missed the topic when you entered ... ubuntu support.  no doubt bsd has a channel but this ain't it.05:18
cfhowlettsorry05:18
lulzsecbsd is stable but doesn't support for new hardware05:19
c1phersorry for that05:19
c1pheri am just curious on this05:19
c1pherthanks @lulzsec05:19
lulzsecI was tried bsd, I am build my home server with bsd for remote shell and website05:21
c1pher@lulzsec great, how was that working?05:25
reisioyou build?05:26
qwerzxcjZzz05:27
lulzsecyes, but just home server. I am keep all my data on there05:28
lulzsec@c1pher I have old cpu, mini router, and ethernet cable.05:30
lulzsec@c1pher05:30
pacovcluks encryption does not wipe keys on shutdown does it?05:31
reisiofrom memory?05:31
pacovcyes on shutdown05:32
reisioprobably not, since things in memory naturally die quite rapidly05:32
reisioand anybody with physical access to your computer can always break your encryption 100% of the time05:32
reisioif you want to waste your time with paranoia, though, you could like at "tresor"05:32
pacovcthats true but some disk encryption has a wipe keys on shutdown feature05:32
neoupdownhi05:33
Random832cold boot attacks don't generally involve an ordered shutdown05:33
pacovcwell reisio that scenario is when the computer is booted or will be boot again05:33
pacovcRadom832 well it could if try to shut it down for the purposes are someone trying to gain access soon after.05:34
Random832pacovc, ram isn't stable in the long term, and if an attacker has access in the short term they could have just cut the power rathe than let it shut down05:34
pacovcrandom832 that is true but I'm talking about when there is a full shutdown05:34
pacovcyour making valid points but I don't see why wiping keys on shutdown would hurt anything05:35
FireStrikerhey all does anyone here know what the system specs for kubuntu is05:35
lulzsecRAM 1Gb HDD: 16 GB05:36
cfhowlettFireStriker,LMGTFY       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#System_requirements05:36
reisioNeotrans: ohai05:37
reisiopacovc: nobody with a vested interest in circumventing your encryption who also has physical access to your computer will ever be defeated by anything implemented by software05:37
pacovcreisio, well tell that to DA's who wanted FBI help to get into apple phone's or other cases where a court ordered a password :)05:39
reisiowell, even though you might not think, based on their behavior, that the FBI was bound by the law, it is05:40
reisioso even though any fool can break most people's "encryption", government agencies often are disallowed05:40
pacovcwell reisio I guess you think the truecrypt audit was a waste of time05:41
reisioyes, but probably not for the reason you're thinking05:42
pacovclol05:42
reisiotruecrypt has a crappy license, which is plenty enough reason to not use it05:42
stan_man_canAnyone know how to add a private IP on linode? my VPS is running ubuntu 16.04. I went into the VPS and added a private IP to it, but I have no idea how to make ubuntu pick it up05:42
cfhowletttruecrypt was defunct last I heard.  forked to veracrypt.05:42
pacovcwell the drawbacks and flaws to full disk encryption are widely known05:42
pacovcyes it was but it was still audited05:43
pacovcbut full disk encryption can work well05:43
pacovcso I guess the luks wiping keys on shutdown is not happening anything soon lol05:43
reisioyou can do anything you like with open source software05:44
reisiothis particular thing, however, is almost certainly a waste of time05:44
reisiobut hey, some people have time to kill :D05:44
lotuspsychjewe have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel guys, perhaps use it?05:45
pacovclotuspsychje, I was asking if it had that feature and if so how to use I was not intending it to turn in a converation on whether it was needed or not :)05:49
LinuxNoviceHi, I am new to Linux can anybody tell me if this Mate DE safe to install? It says the ppa is untrusted. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23488964/05:53
lotuspsychjepacovc: join #ubuntu-discuss we can discuss it :p05:53
LinuxNovicehttps://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjv7NeDja_QAhUDW7wKHfWAD3gQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntumaniac.com%2F2016%2F05%2Fmate-1141-desktop-environment-available.html&usg=AFQjCNEXnal-CGCqusLuUC4pEH3RE6WpyQ05:54
cfhowlettLinuxNovice, please do not spam random websites05:54
Bashing-om!info mate-desktop-environment05:54
ubottumate-desktop-environment (source: mate-desktop-environment): MATE Desktop Environment (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16.0+1 (yakkety), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB05:54
cfhowlettlinuxvoice   sorry!  now I see the query.05:55
LinuxNoviceI installed the ppa as given in that instruction. Is it safe? Because it says the ppa is untrusted.05:55
cfhowlettLinuxNovice, the package is in the repos.  why mess with the ppa?05:56
Bashing-omLinuxNovice: Looks like an even later version is in the iur software repository .05:56
LinuxNoviceOk. What should I do now to uninstall it?05:56
LinuxNoviceEven that untrusted ppa.05:56
cfhowlett!purgeppa | linuxv05:57
Bashing-om!ppa-purge | LinuxNovice05:57
ubottuLinuxNovice: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html05:57
LinuxNoviceAnd please tell me where in the repos can I find the Ubunt Mate DE?05:58
cfhowlettLinuxNovice, sudo apt install mate-desktop-environment05:58
LinuxNoviceOk. Is that enough?05:58
Jordan_Upacovc: Keys are not wiped from RAM on shutdown by default. You could implement it yourself, but it's not worth it (for reasons we can discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss) and trying to implement it yourself could lead you to accidentally add a new attack vector.05:59
cfhowlettLinuxNovice, "enough"?  not sure what that means but you can test it like this:  sudo apt-get install -s mate-desktop-environment              to see what's coming in05:59
FireStrikerwhats hapned05:59
FireStrikeris it farly start fword installing a dual boot of ubuntu and win 8 on uefi06:02
LinuxNoviceI installed this ppa by typing this command $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/crazy-mate. Now how can I undo this?06:03
cfhowlettLinuxNovice, sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa06:03
owen1how to upgrade my chromium to the newest version? I am on Version 53.0.2785.143 Built on Ubuntu , running on Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit)06:04
cfhowletthttp://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html  LinuxNovice06:04
stan_man_canLinode's docs say "Each Linode has only one virtual ethernet interface, eth0"06:04
blackheartMicrosoft joined the Linux foundation?06:04
blackheartHas hell finally frozen over?06:04
owen1blackheart: (:06:04
stan_man_candoes that mean if I configure a static ip it won't appear in ifconfig? all I see is  eth0 with my public up, along with lo06:04
cfhowlettblackheart, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic not here please.  thank you.06:04
blackheartcfhowlett, duly noted.06:04
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LinuxNoviceOk. I entered that command and hit enter.06:06
cfhowlettowen1, sudo apt full-upgrade will do it06:06
FireStrikercan you change the loading screen that shows when the computer starts up/06:07
owen1cfhowlett: thanks. here is what i see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23488999/06:08
owen1does it mean i am already at the latest version that comes with ubuntu? that's sad..06:09
LinuxNoviceand please can anybody tell me how to install Ubuntu Mate DE by using GUI?06:09
cfhowlettowen1, that's the one in the repos alright.06:11
cfhowlettowen1, wait, what06:11
owen1cfhowlett: i am having issues accessing a lot of sites. i am getting security errors on some static files. i was told i should upgrade my chromium06:12
cfhowletthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23489003/       owen1 I just ran that command and grep'd chromium-browser06:12
cfhowlettowen1, I'm also on 16.04.1    and chromium ends with .1257   to your .1254 ...06:13
owen153.0.2785.143-0ubuntu0.16.04.1.125406:13
owen1maybe i should reply 'y' to the question?06:14
cfhowlettowen1, so you should have .1257  if my record is corret06:14
cfhowlettyeah you have to give permission explicitly06:14
FireStrikerHi, are you able to change the loading screen that shows when the computer starts up/06:15
reisioFireStriker: yup06:16
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owen1cfhowlett: thanks. i'll try it06:19
cfhowlettlet me know, owen106:19
jjhi06:22
FireStrikerwhat nice DE's that looks nice and is light06:23
reisiohi jj06:23
cfhowlettFireStriker, too subjective.  just install them all and chooose for yourself.06:23
reisioFireStriker: light compared to what06:23
FireStrikerok06:23
FireStrikerum idk just something that isnt to much of a resorce hog but doesnt compmise anything06:25
FireStrikerso inbetween unity and lightweigh de's06:25
reisiosounds like you want Xfce06:26
cfhowlettFireStriker, sudo apt install lxde xfce4     will get you those two DE's.  logout, choose, login.06:26
FireStrikermaybe i dont like how i cnat eject usb's or dvds/cds by dragint them to the bin like ubuntu06:27
reisioFireStriker: hrmm?06:27
Bashing-omFireStriker: see: http://www.xfce.org/ .06:29
FireStrikeri have finsihed downloading ubuntu going to install it than be back. it isnt any diffent on uefi as it is on older pc's right06:32
vok`FireStriker: I had to disable UEFI.06:32
reisioFireStriker: it frequently is not06:32
CtrlCDoes any of the ubuntu iso files come with a ubuntu user preset after installation?06:33
cfhowlettCtrlC, OEM install would do that06:33
FireStrikeri can inable legicy but cant disable uefi06:33
reisioif your system has the option to have its UEFI pretend to be "BIOS", that is almost always going to simplify things; UEFI solves nothing06:33
CtrlCcfhowlett, Thanks.06:33
reisiohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI06:33
FireStrikerhow do i check that risio06:33
cfhowletthappy2help06:33
owen1cfhowlett: now i have the same version as yours and no more security errors06:36
owen1thanks06:36
cfhowlettowen1, :)  happy2help!06:36
owen1cfhowlett: should i run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure all my packages are up to date?06:36
cfhowlettowen1, sudo apt full-upgrade or the command you list.  note that apt is the replacement for apt-get    so ... get used to it?06:37
FireStrikerbbl06:38
Blue1I am trying to use livepatch.  When i try to enable it, it says command not found.  Yet, when I try to install it, it says it's already installed.  What am I doing wrong?06:44
cfhowlettBlue1, read the man page06:44
Blue1cfhowlett: there is no man for canonical-livepatch.  I used snap to install it - and the worked correctly.06:45
cfhowlettBlue1, !  no man page?! that's just ... just ... IDK06:46
cfhowlettdoesn't seem right that there's no documentation06:46
Blue1Yes, I found that odd.  that was the first thing I thought of.06:46
owen1cfhowlett: i didn't know about 'apt'!06:46
Blue1cfhowlett: this is the recipe I am using:  http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html06:47
cfhowlettBlue1, best you speak with someone with snap knowledge ---  sadly, not me.  sorry.06:48
cfhowlettowen1, yep it's the coming thing06:48
Blue1cfhowlett: nor I.  thank you for your time.  much appreciated.06:48
CtrlCWhat can be wrong with this command? sudo systemctl enable mongodb  I get this: Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument06:52
cfhowlettCtrlC, no -dashes?06:53
CtrlCcfhowlett, where exactly?06:53
cfhowlettCtrlC, !guessing! -enable06:53
CtrlCcfhowlett, I don't think so.06:53
cfhowlettsee the man page I see -single and --double     in various places, but I don't know the command well enough to say06:54
CtrlCcfhowlett, it doesn't have dashes.06:54
TheNH813My system cannot be powered back on after suspend. It requires a hard power cycle. S3 suspend essentially does not work. How can I set Ubuntu to use S1 suspend state?07:14
TheNH813FYI S3 suspend causes a crash on Windows as well. Motherboard is VERY new, not a hardware issue. Manufactured February 2016, possibly UEFI bug?07:15
TheNH813Gigabyte F2A64HM, A64HM Chipset, AMD A4-7300 processor if extra hardware info helps.07:17
TheNH813Woops, actually F2A68HM-H, A68HM Chipset.07:21
FireStrikerUm07:29
FireStrikerWell I will say what was happening07:29
FireStrikerIt was flashing and complaining about a backlight controller07:30
FireStrikerIs that alright?07:32
FireStrikerI'm trying to install xubuntu07:32
Tranquiliz3rHello! :|07:35
RatchetTheGamerHi07:35
Dynetrekkhi, I've got a 4 TB btrfs filesystem but "btrfs filesystem df" says its not a btrfs file system. what's up?07:37
SebthreeBQM10HDhi07:46
RatchetTheGamerHi07:49
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, hi07:49
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anirbanHow to use hybrid amd/intel graphics cards on ubuntu 16.04?07:55
RatchetTheGamerHow do i change the loading screen07:56
hateball!amd | anirban07:57
ubottuanirban: Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD07:57
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RatchetTheGamerhateball: do you know How to change the loading screen08:02
FireStrikerRatchet I know it's possible, but I don't know how to do it, you should probably wait if he knew how he would of told you when he answered the question before yours08:03
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, loading as in boot up? ubuntu is booting08:08
RatchetTheGamerYea08:08
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, when you turn computer on?08:08
RatchetTheGamerThe dots08:08
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, ok the theme, but why you want to change that?08:08
RatchetTheGamerI just don't like to look of it08:10
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, and yes the theme can be changed, the boot up program itself though plymouth no you stay using that08:10
codfectionhi08:11
codfectionshould I use tlp or powertop08:11
codfectionfor powersaving08:11
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, its been quite awhile since I did it and not with 16.10 but their still should be at least a few plymouth themes in the ubuntu repo08:12
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, however when I last did that, could only really have one installed at a time, for it to actually come up08:13
RatchetTheGamerOk08:13
RatchetTheGamerI'm using 16.0408:13
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, and certain themes woudnt really work and would get the text boot or whatever instead08:13
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, but yeah theres space themes and what not in the repos stilll I think, using the ubuntu hd tablet, so cant just check08:14
RatchetTheGamerOk08:15
codfectionwhy 16.10 is not long term support? It works better than 16.0408:16
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, right well browse the repos for plymouth themes then, installl and re boot, baring in mind that youll have to probably remove the dot theme, or any previously installed one, to have the new one coming up. have fun with that08:17
SebthreeBQM10HD!plymouth08:17
ubottuPlymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) that provides a graphical boot animation while the boot process happens in the background. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »08:17
SebthreeBQM10HDRatchetTheGamer, not sure about the command from the bot, installing like I put above should work08:18
SebthreeBQM10HDcodfection, how does it work better?08:18
SebthreeBQM10HDcodfection, its not lts since a lts is every three releases, and so its the first one after the lts08:20
SebthreeBQM10HDcodfection, not every or pretty much every release can be lts, since that would take to much to maintain08:20
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, hi08:21
LinuxNoviceHi..08:21
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, hi. How are you?08:21
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I just happen to be here, did you get xubuntu working?08:21
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I installed two DEs on my Lubuntu. Xubuntu and Mate.08:21
SebthreeBQM10HDi am ok just a bit cold you?08:22
LinuxNoviceI'm using Mate now..08:22
FireStrikerHi Seb LinuxNovice08:22
LinuxNoviceI'm good.08:22
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, where are you from? Which country?08:23
FireStrikerIs there anyway to make the pops that happen when you change the volume on ubuntu or lubuntu08:24
FireStrikerOn xubuntu08:24
codfectionSebastianFlyte, yea I do agree but it has latest stuff08:24
codfection16.04 is getting old08:24
anddamhello, how can I restart sshd in verbose mode and check its output?08:24
codfectionI wonder if 16.10 to 18.04 upgrade will break it in future08:25
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, thanx a lot for guiding me in installing Xubuntu DE.08:25
anddamis it more convenient to manually start the service on a different port? IIRC I read that but I'm not sure what's more practical08:25
anddamcase in point I have a java client failing at starting an ssh tunnel and I remember this being due to some old ciphering java was using, I'd like to check the sshd output for a failed connection and accordingly setup sshd_config08:26
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, back ubuntu tablet issue or something08:26
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, hi08:26
FireStrikerHi08:27
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, last message I got was where from, England, you?08:27
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, no. It was not me.08:28
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, what was not you ?08:29
FireStrikerOn the topic of xubuntu is there away way to add the pops when you change the volume on ubuntu or lubuntu08:30
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SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, the what ?08:30
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, if you want to try some more interfaces etc, next, I would suggest....08:31
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489427/, I get this message when I try to update in the Synaptic Package Manager. Could you help me with this?08:31
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, were you from, aready put fo me08:32
LinuxNoviceI have tried Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Mate, Linux Mint.08:32
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, linux mint how ?  you dual booted?08:33
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I didn't get you.08:33
FireStrikerPop pop pop when you turn the volume up or down on ubuntu or lubuntu08:33
SebthreeBQM10HDyou pu mint on as well ?08:33
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's it's own os08:33
FireStrikerIt's not there in xubuntu08:33
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, no don't know08:33
FireStrikerOk08:34
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, you could use pavucontrol for adjusting volume, open from terminal. that shoudl work in like everything08:34
SebthreeBQM10HDnot sure if it's installed by default in ubuntu08:34
SebthreeBQM10HDprobably is08:34
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, yes. Dual booted.08:35
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, Mint you can't just download from the Ubuntu repos so ... right ok you just asnswerd, dual booted ok08:35
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, what did you think of Mint?08:35
LinuxNoviceIt's good. Quite impressed with that.08:36
LinuxNoviceI don't know about the technicalities of Linux distros.08:36
FireStrikerHow do I install java08:37
* SebthreeBQM10HD wonders what's the point in Mint now really now with a more green theme, and well to run Cinnamon, oh wait Cinnamon runs in like every oher distro as well no problem, except for Ubuntu maybe which oddly doesn't seem to have in repos lsat time I looked for it08:37
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, which one you prefer.08:37
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, ??08:37
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, neither UBuntu or Mint currently on the desktop really, altough been running Ubuntu 16.04  for longer than intended on HP lap top since that's not quite set up properly still for various reaons.  on a phone and tablet though, well I am rather impressed wit Ubuntu touch08:38
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, Ubuntu is going to get more ineresting again in the next year and a half or so it seems08:38
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, ok.08:39
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, they are working on having the same Ubuntu  with the newer version of the Unity interface and what not to.  running on phone tablet, computer etc.  that's a point if your on 16.10 there's a unity 8 preview session to08:39
FireStrikerHow resource heavy is cinnamon08:40
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, could you plz look into the above problem I encountered? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489427/08:40
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, not that much I think, but  can you check, is it in ubuntu repos? no ?08:40
FireStrikerIdk install ubuntu now08:41
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat you on ?08:41
FireStrikerUnity08:41
LinuxNovicehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23489427/, since I hav a very old laptop, I'm not using Unity.08:41
FireStrikerLive cd btw08:41
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I tried Unity, but it was too sluggish on my laptop.08:42
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, your error is to do with repos of some sort08:42
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, as long as things still download and install,  that's fine usually, no problem08:42
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, but somtimes the package manager can break which can be a bit annoying or tricky to sort out depends08:43
ikoniadownloads and installs is not a good thing08:43
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, no need to do anything, I guess.08:43
ikoniaas once it's installed -it's installed08:43
ikoniawhich means you are installing breakages08:43
FireStrikerUm08:44
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ikonia can probably advice better for your errors.  he has a point though, if you have something installed that's slightly broken or something, then technically you have some kind of breakage I gues08:44
ikoniayou need to trust the sources you are using - a good example is in the error message in the pastebin, you trusted that resource, installed packages and dependencies from that resource, now the package is gone08:44
ikoniasorry - now the repo is gone08:44
ikonialeaving the packages on your system unmaintained and in limbo08:44
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/7eIabOS.jpg08:44
SebthreeBQM10HDikonia, he's rarther new, but if you could explain to him about the repos in a good way, would be awesome08:45
FireStrikerNvm hit back and the button allowed me to press it08:46
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, everything t should have gone smoothly or mostly I would have thought though, since all you done is stuck to the offiical repos from what I know08:46
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, don't know for sure. Other than that, I don't have any problem.08:47
CapsAdmini accidentally installed kde neon (ubuntu 16) in bios mode alongside with windows and i'm trying to fix the grub loader08:47
CapsAdminif i manually reinstall grub from a live cd with chroot it works but only legacy mode08:47
RoyI bought a Xiaomi notebook air 13", first thing I did was remove windows and install Ubuntu Gnome.08:47
RoyWorks great, exept for bumblebee08:47
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, anything from synaptic or  the terminal, when doing sudo apt-get  goes from the offical repos by default08:47
CapsAdmini tried to use boot repair but i keep getting errors, i think about device.map being wrong or something08:47
Nielyou know ghostbin?08:48
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, syanptic software centre terminal08:48
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, but sometimes even things from the offical repos for whatever reason, don't quite install properly08:48
CapsAdminhttp://paste2.org/vg2DYJZM08:49
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, the repos where the software downlodads from08:49
CapsAdmingrub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdd1.  Check your device.map.08:49
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LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I don't need to bother about it, then.08:50
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, generally most errors to do with things downloaded from repos, don't matter that much, but sometimes it does, and sometimes there's something that stops other programs/pakages being installd untill its fixed08:51
CapsAdminbut i think sdd is my usb drive08:51
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I think your mostly ok enough to continue, installing things etc for now, but  bare in mind what I just put08:51
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, ok.08:52
ikoniaif you have installed anything from that repo already - it does matter08:52
ikoniaas those packages will be dead and unmaintained on your system and as such will most likley create breakage later down the line08:52
RoyCapsAdmin sounds like 4th hard drive, sda, sdb, sdc...08:53
CapsAdminRoy, yeah but sdd is the usb drive im using for live CD08:53
CapsAdmin"CD"08:53
SebthreeBQM10HDikonia, he's installed xubuntu,  mate, and  had lubuntu already, wanted to try differnet interfaces.  I think that's about all that's been installed into that install so far08:53
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I think this problem was there in Lubuntu also.08:54
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, which problem ?08:54
ikoniaSebthreeBQM10HD: but where did mate come from - as that mate repo in the error is an extenral one08:54
SebthreeBQM10HDoh08:54
ikoniawhich means all the mate builds and dependencies will have come from an eternal repo that is now dead08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, hw did you install mate /08:55
SebthreeBQM10HD?08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, we did Xubuntu via the offical repos yesterday,  but how did you put on Mate yourself ?08:55
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, you shoudn't just add random repos  in from sites etc08:56
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, from the mate desktop website. I followed the install instructions for Ubuntu.08:56
SebthreeBQM10HDlink ?08:56
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, that explans it probably, they probably given you a  diffenret versibion of mate to the one in offica repos08:56
RoyCapsAdmin, So, you want to use UEFI now, but you installed your system using bios/legacy mode?08:56
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, you should have done something like sudo apt-get intall mate-desktop  to get it from the offical Ubuntu repos, but we didn't get that far08:57
NielRoy, UEFI08:57
LinuxNovicehttp://wiki.mate-desktop.com/download08:57
CapsAdminRoy, yeah08:57
RoyCapsAdmin, I don't know if grub is all you need fix for that.08:57
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ikonia has a good point then, you could have a mate installed, from a not particuarly supported repo then a unoffiical repo as well08:57
CapsAdminRoy, i installed ubuntu in legacy, then windows (which is uefi only afaik) which killed grub lol08:57
CapsAdmini could reinstall i guess but i wanna try without doing that08:58
LinuxNovicehow can I check that??08:58
CapsAdminaha08:59
RoyCapsAdmin, UEFI runs efi files to start you're OS. They probably need to be on another small filesystem/efi partition.08:59
CapsAdminRoy, so since sdd is the usb drive i removed it and ran boot-repair again08:59
giocosomebodyuse Ansible for own laptop software and tool?08:59
CapsAdminnow it's successful08:59
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ok that page dons't look good08:59
CapsAdminRoy, i think boot-repair makes all of that08:59
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, looks like it provides Mate for older vesiosn of ubuntu even, which one did you go for?09:00
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somaReversehi, why does ubuntu 14 have this "devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620) "09:00
somaReversewhat does it use for?09:00
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I gues you did things the Windows way,  you get a program from a randm website etc, well the one you hope is the official09:00
SebthreeBQM10HDand hope that's ok09:00
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, but the point with Linux is for most programs, you don't need to do that, because Linux has offical repos09:01
RoyCapsAdmin, I see. Seems like a great tool.09:01
CapsAdminlol09:01
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, ok. But, this website is official. Isn't it?09:01
CapsAdminRoy, okay that didn't work. it installed grub2 with windows as an entry but i get "invalid signature" when trying to launch wnidows and ubuntu is still in legacy mode09:01
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, repos for the version of the distribution of packages/programs for the version of the  distro you are  using,  and that have gone through quality assurance checks that it's ok09:01
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I followed the instructions given in that website.09:02
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, upstream projects sometimes provide thee software for download by adding their repos, but  you usually woudn't do that, since it's not properly for your Linux distro version09:02
SebthreeBQM10HDikonia ping?  hoe would  he remove the Mint packags from that repo ?09:02
RoyCapsAdmin, The signature might have something to do with secure boot.09:03
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, what shall I do now. Is there any problem with this installation?09:03
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ideally should probably remove those mint packages, but I am not  sure the command etc to do that.  then you could install Mate the offical way.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop09:03
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, which mint repo did you add?  they don't mention 16.10 any of those09:04
SebthreeBQM10HDjut old versions of ubuntu09:04
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, Mint is on a different partition.09:05
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, Mate in Ubuntu I am on about09:05
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I meant mae I put mint by mistak there09:05
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I just followed the instructions there in that site09:06
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, if you used that page, which you have to install Mate,  it will have given you old Mate packages, intended for a old version of ubuntu as welll09:06
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, you shoudn't have you used that page really,  that's the point I am trying to make,  but ok your new, so didn't know09:07
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I'm utterly clueless.09:07
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, it's  not the end of the world, it' stil mostly ok09:07
antimistLinuxNovice: What page is it anyway? a bit late into show on my side.09:07
SebthreeBQM10HDantimist, he's installd Mate from the Mate wiki which provides instructions for old versios of ubuntu09:07
LinuxNovicehttp://wiki.mate-desktop.com/download09:08
antimistah09:08
SebthreeBQM10HDantimist, so ideally now need to remove thos packages, which were giving an error, and install the offical repos way. do you know the command to remove the packages ?09:08
antimistI did a similar thing with Xfce once, I'm guessing you want to remove them09:08
Bent0Somehow everynight our MySQL server freezes around the same time at night (00:50). We get some VPN latency notifications before that. I cannot find anything in any of our servers crontabs and cron.d that runs around that time. Is there anywhere else to look?09:08
antimistLinuxNovice: Have you used Mate on it?09:09
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, generally do not  instal things do not add repos from any webpages,   such as that one or anything else,  unless you really need to for something and know what your doing.   since for examle it's quit rare, but random repos for Linux can contain malicious software09:09
RoyIs someone around that has any experience with bumblebee(tool for Nvidia Optimus based laptops)09:09
antimistnormally adding a repository does not mean you can install packages unless it specifically for the distro09:09
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, by the way how can I remove completely an installed DE??09:09
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I know it's a Windows habit to get programs from websites etc, but most of the time you don't need to do that knd of thing here, since the offical distro repos09:10
antimistLinuxNovice: is the DE installed?09:10
antimistoh wait never mind09:10
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, ok.09:10
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I think antimist can help you remove the Mate that you got from the wiki repo09:10
SebthreeBQM10HDor hopefully09:10
antimistSebthreeBQM10HD: let's see09:11
* SebthreeBQM10HD not sure command to do it09:11
LinuxNoviceyes. It is installed. I am working from Mate DE only.09:11
antimistLinuxNovice: What version of Ubuntu are you on09:11
antimist?09:11
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, it might mostly work even, though it was for old Ubuntu, but even so, should remove it really, and go with the offical one from the 16.10 repos09:11
LinuxNoviceantimist, It's 16.1009:11
SebthreeBQM10HDantimist, he was doing diffenret interfacs, s he's got, lubuntu installed, xubuntu, and this mate09:12
SebthreeBQM10HDright now09:12
antimistcool09:12
SebthreeBQM10HDand the base is 16.10 yes09:12
antimistLinuxNovice: I'm guessing you did something along the lines of "sudo apt-get install mate-desktop-environment"09:12
SebthreeBQM10HDor so he  says :d09:12
RoyMATE is a fork of gnome 2, right?09:12
SebthreeBQM10HDantimist, no he didn't even do that, he added the Mate repo from the wiki page09:13
SebthreeBQM10HDRoy, yes09:13
LinuxNoviceantimist, yes. that's what I did.09:13
ikoniaLinuxNovice: what desktop do you want to actually use ?09:13
ikoniahave you made a decision09:13
antimistLinuxNovice: Give me a sec09:13
LinuxNoviceikonia, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Mate.09:14
ikoniathats not a desktop09:14
ikoniathats 3 desktops09:14
ikoniahave you made a decision which one you'd like to use09:14
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, he means which one you want to use or mostly09:14
LinuxNoviceikonia, maybe Xubuntu.09:14
antimistLinuxNovice: could you do a "dpkg -l | grep mate | nc termbin.com 9999"09:15
ikoniaLinuxNovice: ok - my advice to you is, re-install xubuntu 16.04, and use that09:15
antimistand send the link that you get09:15
ikoniaLinuxNovice: keep it simple, and start clean with no confusion, as I suspect more has happened here than your aware of09:15
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, or maybe, try some more interfacs if still wanting to do that,  then do a re install of the one you want to use properly, after, for a more clean install09:15
antimistor you could do what ikonia syas09:15
RoyLinuxNovice, spend more time on research into what you want to do. Don't just follow the first guide you find.09:16
LinuxNoviceikonia, why not 16.10/09:16
LinuxNovice?09:16
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, for any of those desktops it woul still be on 16.1009:16
SebthreeBQM10HDthat's the base09:17
antimistwell, on my side only reason for 16.04 is because LTS09:17
ikoniaLinuxNovice: because it has a shorter suported window, and if you're still new to linux and learning, you want something that will give you long term support and stability09:17
SebthreeBQM10HDoh he suggeted 16.04 as well09:17
ikoniarather than being pushed into more experienced tasks like upgrades and config migrations09:17
LinuxNoviceikonia, ok09:17
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ok use the install you got now as a test system I gues for a bit,  put more interface on if you want.  then once done with that.  that's a good idea.  re install  things,  with Xubuntu 16,04  yes the long term suppport09:18
antimistI guess, that should be resolved.09:19
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, also there is much more community support  for Ubuntu than Mint.  so keeping around a Mint install as well is probably mostly pointless in your case really for now09:19
SebthreeBQM10HDantimist  for LinuxNovice  to learn at  this early stage, how to remove a de n this case the mate, mght not hurt that much though.  or could skip that I guess, if it's now nothing more than a test  install09:21
AliebsHey, newbie here, why is the "software centre" so extremely slow?09:21
TheNH813I have a problem with suspend. MY PC will not exit suspend upon pressing the power button, it requires a hard reset. I believe S1 suspend works correctly, so how would I enable it?09:22
SebthreeBQM10HDAliebs, depends09:23
SebthreeBQM10HDAliebs, usaully would work fine enough for most peop;le, but09:23
TheNH813Is there a parameter to force Linux to use S1 suspend? Changing settings in UEFI config don't have affect.09:23
SebthreeBQM10HDyou could have a slower Internet cnnection, or it's using vesions of the repos that go a bit slower for you, for example09:23
Aliebs@sebthreeVQM10HD but?09:25
AliebsOh, sorry missed your last reply.09:26
FireStrikerUm I installed ubuntu and rebooted into win8 no grub09:27
AliebsYeah, my internet's kind of slow, but I've yet to experience anything this slow. Whereas the package manager on mint 18 loaded almost instantaneously here it takes upwards of two minutes.09:27
SebthreeBQM10HDAliebs, dosn't mater he's gone now anyway09:30
LinuxNovicehi..09:32
FireStrikerHelp I can't boot into ubuntu I installed it and it isn't booting into grub just start into win 809:33
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, hi09:33
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, I nearly left the channel09:33
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, that Mate DE got stuck.09:34
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, had to manually reboot the system.09:34
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, ok UEFI  boot issue or something  ges09:34
FireStrikerUefi I think09:34
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I want to completely remove that Mate DE from my laptop.09:35
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, can you load up Ubntu from the computer boot options ?09:35
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, indeed, but I don't know the command to.  antimist still around ?09:35
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, and it was a bit sluggish also.09:35
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, yes  XFCE or LXDE should work better on  such a old computer really, but Mate should work well enough to09:36
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ikonia  if around, could you maybe help him remove that Mate install from tehir wiki, with their repo, not Ubuntu's ? thanks09:37
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, I'm ok with Lubuntu and Xubuntu now.09:37
ikoniaSebthreeBQM10HD: I'd rather he just re-installed09:37
ikonialubuntu an xubuntu are two things09:37
ikoniawhy do you need two desktops,09:38
ikoniaSebthreeBQM10HD: I suspect there will be more than "just mate"09:38
ikoniaand as it's early days, lets get on 16.04 and start clean from a sane base09:38
ubuntuhattan09:39
LinuxNoviceikonia, which one shall I install 16.10 or 16.04?09:39
ubuntuwhat?09:39
ikoniaLinuxNovice: my opinion is you will have a better experience from 16.0409:39
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LinuxNoviceikonia, ok09:39
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, ok the  system you got now, is a test system then,  not for proper use.  when you are ready for a proper install.  install xubuntu or lubuntu 16.04.  if you want   anther de later on could install to,  but  ikonia has a point you only really ned one de installed to start with, become more comfortable etc with Linux09:39
LinuxNoviceok09:40
FireStrikerIdk no boot options have popped up how do I open them ?09:41
Guest26367can anyone plz help .i m having an issue with my system,while installing ubuntu i accidentally unmounted my hard drive partitions now it is showing 493 GB of inaccessible data and windows is not booting ...i m using ubuntu with bootavle USB.....?????????09:41
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, and 16.04  was relased towards the end of April this year with five months of support,  where as Ubuntu 16.10 was releasd with Unty with five years of support, but other ones  like Lubunu and Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate, only with three years of support.  suppot as in scurity and stability updates.  which one sounds beter to you ?09:42
SebthreeBQM10HDas a newbie09:42
SebthreeBQM10HDLinuxNovice, five years of support not months09:42
EriC^^Guest26367: ok, calm down, open a terminal and type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here09:42
Guest26367,09:43
LinuxNoviceSebthreeBQM10HD, ok. I understand. I'll choose 16.04.09:43
Guest26367ok trying09:44
ikoniaSebthreeBQM10HD: 16.10 has 9 months of support/life cycle09:44
ikoniaSebthreeBQM10HD: not 3 years https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life09:44
FireStrikerSebastianFlyte: I got into the boot monitor and booted grub09:45
SebthreeBQM10HDikonia, I typed some of that by mistake, but I belive the dervatives such as lubuntu and xubuntu in the lts, only get three years of support, instead of five ?09:45
FireStrikerI think I can enter ubuntu09:45
SebthreeBQM10HDikonia, typed some of that wrong by mistake09:45
ikoniaSebthreeBQM10HD: anything that is is in "main" will get the 5 years09:45
SebthreeBQM10HDoh ok09:45
Guest26367http://termbin.com/taqo09:47
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, yeah ty to get into ubuntu from the boot options09:47
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, you may have the issue i had on a hp lap top09:48
SebthreeBQM10HDwhere only windows would boot09:48
SebthreeBQM10HDunless  boot options09:48
EriC^^Guest26367: what does "sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt" do?09:48
FireStrikerMight be this is a hp laptop09:49
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, ok  so  from boot optoins grub came up09:49
SebthreeBQM10HDright ok09:49
Guest26367ERIC:mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root,09:50
Guest26367       missing codepage or helper program, or other error09:50
Guest26367       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try09:50
Guest26367       dmesg | tail or so.09:50
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, it's easy to miss the option in the ubuntu installer on the grub screen09:50
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, bu when that comes up you need to point it to the windows uefi  boot loader09:50
SebthreeBQM10HDalso  disable secure boot in the wufi bios altough mght not  need to do thatnow09:50
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, Ubuntu  needs to share/use the Windows  UEFI loader09:51
SebthreeBQM10HDor yes only Windows will load up09:51
SebthreeBQM10HDno Gub09:51
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker,  on a old system would have said put Grub in the MBR, on a HP lap top with UEFI,  you  go to the options on the Grub screen, and say put the bootloader in the windows uefi,  hop that makes sense09:53
EriC^^Guest26367: try sudo apt-get install testdisk09:54
FireStrikerUm09:55
Guest26367ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk09:55
Guest26367Reading package lists... Done09:55
Guest26367Building dependency tree09:55
Guest26367Reading state information... Done09:55
Guest26367E: Unable to locate package testdisk09:55
FireStriker...09:55
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, yeah ?09:55
Guest26367Eric:              ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk09:55
Guest26367Reading package lists... Done09:55
Guest26367Building dependency tree09:55
Guest26367Reading state information... Done09:55
Guest26367E: Unable to locate package testdisk09:55
FireStrikerSo what option in grub?09:55
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker,  you'll have to re install Ubuntu as well,  what's what I mean as well09:55
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, don't think there's another way to tell it to use windows uefi boot loader otherwise, or an easy way if such09:56
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, disable secure boot in the uefi bios as well, altough you mght not need to09:56
FireStrikerIt didn't have an option like that unless it was under something like do some else09:56
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, the  were to put Grub option, is in the Ubuntu installer09:57
SebthreeBQM10HDsecure boo option is in the uefi bios09:57
FireStrikerSecure boot I disable to install 3ed party drive during the install09:57
FireStrikerSo that was off09:57
SebthreeBQM10HDwhat to load up first a usb sick,  or the windows boo lader etc, tje uef bios09:57
EriC^^Guest26367: sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update09:57
EriC^^Guest26367: use paste.ubuntu.com for pastes in the future :)09:57
FireStrikerUnfortunately I cant turn off uefi I can only activate legicy that will only run after the uefi has failed09:58
EriC^^Guest26367: run the sudo commands above, then run sudo apt-get install testdisk09:58
FireStrikerWhich wouldn't happy09:58
FireStrikerHappened09:58
FireStrikerHow do I uninstall ubuntu?09:58
EriC^^FireStriker: what's your problem?09:59
FireStrikerGrub doesn't load at boot or skips to win 809:59
EriC^^FireStriker: which laptop model?09:59
EriC^^you're using uefi?10:00
FireStrikerHp pavilion10:00
FireStriker201310:00
EriC^^aha aha10:00
EriC^^same here10:00
EriC^^a g6 to be exact10:01
FireStrikerModal can be found in windows10:01
EriC^^uefi?10:01
FireStrikerRebooting the computer to find out10:01
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, reboot the pc press f910:01
EriC^^while it's booting, then select ubuntu10:01
tim_Hey EriC^^ how are you?10:02
EriC^^tim_: hey, good you?10:02
tim_@EriC^^ me too. I did the memory test which you suggested. I think the memory is fine10:02
EriC^^tim_: aha, that's good10:03
FireStrikerHp pavilion 15-e010ax is the modal rebooting into grub now10:03
EriC^^tim_: did you check /var/log/syslog for any errors?10:03
tim_EriC^^: yes :) sadly the freezes still happen. Do you think it is something with my drivers? Not yet, will do that real quick now :)10:04
FireStrikerOk I'm in ubuntu lol10:04
Guest26367ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update10:04
Guest26367'universe' distribution component enabled for all sources.10:04
Guest26367Ign:1 cdrom://Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719) xenial InRelease10:04
Guest26367Hit:2 cdrom://Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719) xenial Release10:04
Guest26367Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [94.5 kB]10:04
Guest26367Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe amd64 Packages [59.2 kB]10:04
EriC^^tim_: maybe, it's hard to guess, maybe the logs will show a little10:04
FireStrikerI was in grub but noced right arrow10:05
FireStrikerNo it's flashing g at me10:05
FireStrikerNow *10:05
EriC^^Guest26367: don't paste here, go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the stuff there and give us the link to the paste at the top of the browser10:05
EriC^^Guest26367: try sudo apt-get install testdisk10:05
EriC^^FireStriker: did ubuntu boot properly?10:05
manish_what is clipit ?10:06
FireStrikerIt did10:06
Guest26367sorry bro...not used to this10:06
FireStrikerNow it's flashing ubuntu at me10:06
FireStrikerIt did the first time10:06
EriC^^FireStriker: you mean the purple screen with the logo?10:06
FireStrikerYep10:06
EriC^^Guest26367: no problem :)10:06
FireStrikerIt got into ubuntu the first boot but this time I nicked the right arrow in grub and booted ubuntu instead of staying in grub10:07
EriC^^FireStriker: try pressing esc and see there are any errors or waiting for something10:07
FireStrikerESC doesn't do anything10:08
Guest26367ERIC^^:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489783/10:08
EriC^^FireStriker: try ctrl+alt+del10:08
FireStrikerK10:08
FireStrikerNope10:08
tim_EriC^^: It says "Primary output changed from KScreen::Output(Id: 66 ...) to KScreen::Output(Id: 66 ...) . Is that something to worry about?10:09
EriC^^FireStriker: try holding alt+prntscrn then type S U B slowly10:09
EriC^^tim_: no, i dont think so10:10
EriC^^tim_: try to run chrome/firefox from a terminal and leave it open while you use it10:10
mantz /exit10:10
FireStrikerIt rebooted10:11
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EriC^^Guest26367: ok, type sudo testdisk10:11
EriC^^Guest26367: i'll be honest i don't know much about lvm, hopefully somebody knows about it and will see your question and can help10:11
EriC^^there's also ##linux as well10:12
EriC^^(you can type /join ##linux to get there)10:12
FireStrikerIt rebooted on its own EriC^^10:12
FireStrikerI'm in grub now http://i.imgur.com/66BdDom.jpg10:12
tim_EriC^^: It seems odd, there was a two minute break (probably when it froze and i needed to reset the machine) in the logs. The last logged activity was a network disconnect/connection loss10:12
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, great in grub press "e" over ubuntu10:12
FireStrikerOk10:12
EriC^^FireStriker: then go down to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ..blablabla.. quiet splash and remove the quiet splash and press ctrl+x10:13
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker,  hi10:13
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, back breifuly had some issues...10:13
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/kdUfcbk.jpg10:14
EriC^^tim_: anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?10:14
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, the  where to put the boot loader in the Ubuntu installer grub option screen, is an important step10:14
Guest26367EriC^^:   thanks10:14
SebthreeBQM10HDFireStriker, you don't do that, and Grub won't come up by defaul on boot, and yep straigh into windows if not10:14
FireStrikerJust quite splash keep $vt_handoff10:15
EriC^^Guest26367: in testdisk, press no log, no log, then choose your disk, press Intel, then analyze10:15
EriC^^SebthreeBQM10HD: it's a uefi firmware issue10:16
EriC^^i have a laptop that does it as well10:16
EriC^^FireStriker: yes, remove the quiet splash and keep $vt_handoff10:16
FireStrikerI got in10:16
FireStrikerI'm in the grid10:16
EriC^^FireStriker: grid?10:17
SebthreeBQM10HDmaybe I  did a quite splahs something ot not sure now10:17
EriC^^o10:17
EriC^^oh login screen10:17
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, login then open a terminal10:17
FireStrikerTron reference10:17
FireStrikerK10:17
tim_EriC^^: Yes, seems that there are problems with Qt (I think)10:17
FireStrikerNow what EriC^^10:18
tim_EriC^^: I need to hurry up, or I will miss my classes. Thanks for your help :) See you10:18
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999910:19
numnumlooking for a terminal based wifi tool to conenct/disconenct from wifi networks10:20
numnumpls10:20
numnum:310:20
FireStrikerUm did that work?10:20
Guest26367EriC^^:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489827/10:20
numnum?10:20
EriC^^numnum: nmcli ?10:21
EriC^^numnum: nmcli is networkmanager cli10:21
EriC^^FireStriker: did it give you a link back?10:22
numnumnmcli?10:22
numnumcant fidn it10:22
numnumsudo apt0get?10:22
EriC^^numnum: sudo apt-get install networkmanager10:22
EriC^^numnum: sudo apt-get install network-manager10:22
numnumoh kk10:22
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/oz5U9y6.jpg10:23
numnumi tought the tool name was nmcli10:23
numnumlol10:23
cryptosamHello World!10:23
FireStrikerTypo10:23
EriC^^Guest26367: when you selected the disk did you have an option for /dev/mapper stuff?10:24
hateballnumnum: it is, but the package name is not nmcli10:24
numnumkk i ma trying10:24
FireStrikerStill didn't work same error as photo EriC^^10:24
EriC^^FireStriker: do you have internet access?10:25
FireStrikerNo I don't for some reason10:25
EriC^^FireStriker: np we can use the imgur10:25
FireStrikerI had it during the install10:25
EriC^^website, it's just a couple of commands10:25
EriC^^FireStriker: maybe the driver is nonfree, did you select to install the non-free stuff?10:26
FireStrikerYep10:26
EriC^^try going to the dash and type drivers10:26
FireStrikerK10:27
FireStrikerSearching10:27
numnumthat nmcli dosnt let me see what networks are available, i need a cli tool to scan, connect,disconnet. from networks10:28
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/5X2iiNV.jpg10:28
FireStrikerEriC^^: ^10:28
EriC^^numnum: "iwlist scan"10:29
rominehow do i get to the chat channel10:29
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numnumthats messy...10:30
numnumnothing intutive? easy and simple?10:30
elias_anumnum: My network manager shows available channels.10:30
EriC^^numnum: nmcli has a list, "nmcli dev wifi list"10:30
EriC^^it's very pretty too10:30
numnumelias_a: ?10:31
EriC^^romine: /join #chat10:31
numnumEriC^^: i like menus...10:31
FireStrikerEric do I use the proprietary driver?10:31
EriC^^romine: /join ##chat10:31
brunch875ouch, software updater seems to be stuck10:31
EriC^^FireStriker: yeah10:32
brunch875should've used apt like I normally do10:32
brunch875anyone experiencing problems with updates?10:32
EriC^^brunch875: try pressing on the tiny arrow it10:32
elias_anumnum: As I said, I'm using 16.04 and Network Manager gives me a list of wlan networks available when I click on the icon.10:32
EriC^^it opens a terminal showing what it's doing10:32
brunch875did that t the beginning10:32
FireStrikerI can't10:32
brunch875now it's grayed out10:32
EriC^^FireStriker: np, let's focus on the booting issue first10:33
ubuntu__EriC^^:   u here?10:33
numnumi dont want n icon, i want a simple tool i can calla nd order around with a few presses of a button10:33
brunch875last message is "Setting up unattended-upgrades (0.92ubuntu1.1) ...10:33
EriC^^FireStriker: type "sudo efibootmgr -v" and take a screenshot10:33
EriC^^ubuntu__: yes10:33
FireStrikerIt's not letting me it just switches to do not use this device10:33
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FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/HS0Vhql.jpg10:35
elias_anumnum: Please elaborate what you need. I don't understand.10:35
FireStrikerThat's the photo EriC^^ (http://i.imgur.com/HS0Vhql.jpg)10:36
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -A -b 000010:37
rominehow can i be banned from ##politics?  i just started using ubantu mate10:38
EriC^^FireStriker: that should set the windows bootloader inactive and ubuntu will boot instead, if you ever remove ubuntu remember to press "f9" when the pc boots to get the menu and boot windows10:38
strcpy_Hi guys, maybe this article can help someone:10:38
strcpy_Running OpenBTS with the Nuand bladeRF on Ubuntu (The Definitive and Step by Step Guide) - https://blog.strcpy.info/2016/11/16/running-openbts-with-the-nuand-bladerf-on-ubuntu-the-definitive-guide/10:38
EriC^^FireStriker: and use a live usb, with efibootmgr installed and reverse the command with "sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0000"10:38
EmptyLivesstrcpy_, man, youre promoting yourself10:39
sssmmm请问ubuntu图形界面挂了怎么弄10:39
EmptyLives!chinese10:40
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:40
EmptyLives!korean10:40
ubottu도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko10:40
EmptyLives!japanese10:40
ubottu日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。10:40
FireStrikerEric http://i.imgur.com/BjRaNls.jpg10:40
sssmmmthank you10:40
EmptyLivesyw10:40
sssmmmi known10:40
EmptyLivesman, i feel pretty useful today10:41
kostkon!cookie | EmptyLives10:41
ubottuEmptyLives: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!10:41
EmptyLiveswell, thank you, ubottu and kostkon10:42
BluesKajHey folks10:42
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, it was disabled (the little * next to it shows the active ones)10:42
EriC^^FireStriker: try rebooting the pc10:42
FireStrikerYep worked10:43
FireStrikerNow time for the grub reconfigure and drivers in ubuntu10:43
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FireStrikerHow do I reorder the OS's in grub? So window is the default10:45
EriC^^FireStriker: type sudo nano /etc/default/grub10:46
FireStrikerIn ubuntu?10:46
EriC^^in another terminal type "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg"10:46
EriC^^yeah10:46
FireStrikerLoading screen loop aign10:48
ubuntu-user-nodeHello Ubuntu Senpai's! I have a worrysome problem that I would love to get help for. On my computer, it seems, apt-key is broken.10:48
ubuntu-user-nodeRunning "apt-key -v" simply returns nothing.10:48
ubuntu-user-nodein the terminal.10:48
FireStrikerEriC^^: got that same loading screen loop where it flashes at me10:49
ubuntu-user-nodeneither apt-key list or apt-key add or any other command properly shows output in the terminal.10:50
ubuntu-user-nodeI did look on information online but can not find anything regarding to that particularily issue.10:50
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EriC^^FireStriker: odd, try the alt+prntscrn S,U,B again10:53
FireStrikerEriC^^:10:53
FireStrikerOh lol10:53
taliptakowhere can i download ubuntu 16.10 updated iso10:53
FireStrikerNothing10:53
FireStrikerDidn't work10:55
LinuxNovicehi, can anyone here explain which is better among Lubuntu, Xubuntu or LXLE for old laptops?10:56
FireStrikerI think xubuntu personality10:57
LinuxNoviceWhat's your opinion on LXLE?10:57
ducasseLinuxNovice: lxde = lubuntu. i prefer xubuntu when i want a more integrated environment, lubuntu for the least powerful machines.10:57
FireStrikerBetter than lubuntu.10:58
FireStrikerEriC^^: that didn't work10:58
LinuxNoviceOK. I have an Acer Travelmate 2420 laptop with 2gb of RAM, 1.8 GHz Intel Celeron M processor.10:59
FireStrikerHow old?10:59
LinuxNovicethe laptop is very old, was bought in 2005.10:59
FireStrikerThe 2007/8 laptop I have xubuntu on is 1.86/7 ghz with 2gb ram11:00
LinuxNoviceis LXLE as stable as other Ubuntu variants?11:01
EriC^^!daily | taliptako11:01
ubottutaliptako: Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/11:01
FireStrikerWB EriC^^11:02
FireStrikerI think it's a GUI thing11:04
FireStrikerThat loading screen11:05
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FireStrikerWhen it pops up it gets stuck you tell it to go away it loads perfectly11:05
FireStrikerI will post my specs when I get back EriC^^11:07
FireStrikerAnd we can figure out what display problem is causeing this?11:07
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brunch875okay so I killed the software updater since it got stuck11:11
brunch875now apt reports up to date11:11
brunch875but also always this error message11:11
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brunch875N: Ignoring file '20auto-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension11:11
brunch875should I just rid of that file?11:11
FireStriker EriC^^ back what was the commands?11:16
FireStrikerHi everyone one I want to reorder the grub menus11:18
EriC^^FireStriker: sudo nano /etc/default/grub11:18
EriC^^i was eating lunch11:19
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EriC^^then grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg11:19
EriC^^FireStriker: open another terminal and type the "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" command11:21
hrvstrhi can somebody help me out with my screen tearing issues with my Intel GM965/960 GPU? I think i've tried all the guides now and reinstalled 4 times trying diffrent drivers. I11:23
FireStrikerThat's alright EriC^^ lol11:27
EriC^^:D11:28
mapmhello11:29
mapmI installed a Lubuntu 16.04 with full disk encryption in a computer, and some day it just started with BusyBox saying (initramfs). I reinstalled the system, and could use it for some days, and then the same thing happened. What could be happening?11:30
EriC^^mapm: did it give an error before busybox?11:30
FireStrikerGrub not currently installed error message11:32
mapmEriC^^, no, just after decrypting sda5_crypt it says "BusyBox v1.22.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.22.0-15ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)       Enter 'help' bla bla bla (initramfs)11:33
FireStrikerI think I need to reinstall11:33
FireStrikerHow do I swap the boot thing11:34
EriC^^FireStriker: grub is installed for sure11:34
EriC^^FireStriker: try "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"11:35
FireStrikerIk11:35
EriC^^not sure why you want to reinstall11:35
EriC^^mapm: oh11:36
FireStrikerI did that it worked but second command is saying grub isn't installer11:36
FireStrikerInstalled11:36
mapmso, I tried rebooting and the same thing happens... I can access the encrypted system through busybox, though11:36
FireStrikerAlso I think I might of bugged something up with the drivers11:37
EriC^^FireStriker: i think you made a typo in the command11:37
EriC^^FireStriker: grep not grub11:37
EriC^^grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg11:37
FireStrikerOk now what11:38
EriC^^mapm: if you type "exit" in the busybox prompt what happens?11:38
EriC^^FireStriker: get the name of the windows one11:38
EriC^^FireStriker: such 'Windows on /dev/sda'11:39
FireStrikerFound it11:39
EriC^^and put it in GRUB_DEFAULT='Windows on...'11:40
EriC^^in the editor you have open from the first command11:40
FireStriker=0 what do I change it to?11:40
EriC^^GRUB_DEFAULT='Windows on...'11:41
mapmEriC^^, it says mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such... /proc on /root/proc failed: No such... /init: line 338: cant' opne /root/dev/console: no such... [520.723423] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x0000020011:41
FireStrikerSo Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda2)11:41
FireStrikerCan I change the name to windows 8 by any chance?11:42
mapm[520.724572] EriC^^, CPU: 1 PID: 1 Comm: init Not tainted 4.4.0-47-generic ~68-Ubuntu11:42
EriC^^you can, not from there though11:42
FireStrikerK11:42
FireStrikerWill it brake?11:42
EriC^^FireStriker: you can make your own entry11:42
EriC^^what do you want to call it?11:43
mapm[520.72374732] Hardware name: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd 945GCMX-S2/945GCMX-S2/945GCMX-S2, BIOS F4 05/24/200711:43
EriC^^mapm: hmm no idea, try to join ##linux and ask, and try asking in a little while here as well11:43
mapmand then two dmesg lines with 4 hex digits each and then a line with "Call Trace:" and then11:43
mapm(hex digit) dump_stack+0x63/0x9011:44
EriC^^mapm: maybe if you add a rootdelay=40 it might help?11:44
mapmwhere should I add it?11:44
EriC^^mapm: try with rootdelay=40 in the grub kernel line11:44
mapmalright I'll try now11:44
mapmthanks!11:44
EriC^^ok11:44
FireStrikerOk so "Windows 8.1 (on /dev/sda2)"11:46
mapmso EriC^^ you mean in the grub kernel line, like when you boot the system and grub appears, you press "e" and then you can modify the boot parameters right?11:46
EriC^^mapm: exactly11:46
EriC^^FireStriker: you can make it just Windows 8.1 if you want11:46
FireStrikerTrue but I will keep the rest11:47
EriC^^ok as you wish11:47
mapmEriC^^, so, in a particular line? you mentioned kernel, you mean the line with "linux16 /memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0, 115200n8" or one alike?11:48
FireStrikerOk done I press Ctr X?11:48
geo_l11:48
EriC^^mapm: in the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz root=UUID=...11:48
mapmEriC^^, alright, sorry EriC^^, I pressed "e" in the memtest option in grub. Now I pressed "e" in the Ubuntu option and now I understand what you said11:49
EriC^^mapm: oh ok11:49
EriC^^FireStriker: yeah save it11:50
EriC^^FireStriker: then type grep -A20 "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg11:51
FireStrikerOk drivers11:51
EriC^^FireStriker: get the whole part that says menuentry Windows.... { blablabla ..... }11:51
mapmEriC^^, so, to understand it more, rootdelay=40 makes the system wait 40 milliseconds after mounting the root filesystem?11:51
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jonahhi is anyone any good with samba? I can't connect anymore to my samba share with a desktop client. It previously worked but now the client just gives timeout on server... any help appreciated. I've tried with firewall off and the IP is in my hosts allow list in the smb.cnf but still not working...11:51
EriC^^and copy them and paste them in sudo nano /boot/grub/custom.cfg11:51
FireStrikerOh11:51
mapmby the way, the same problem happened now, appending "rootdelay=40" at the end of the linux line11:52
EriC^^mapm: it think it gives it 40seconds until all the devices are mounted11:52
EriC^^mapm: does it not mention anything at all?11:52
mapmEriC^^, nope11:52
EriC^^mapm: try without "quiet splash" in the kernel line11:52
mapmEriC^^, alright11:52
EriC^^maybe put "verbose" instead11:53
EriC^^mapm: do you have a live usb, maybe if you attempt to chroot to it the problem might appear?11:53
geo_l11:53
ubuntuHattan11:53
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FireStrikerSo now we have the display driver problem11:54
EriC^^FireStriker: we're not done with grub yet11:54
FireStrikerOk11:55
mapmEriC^^, yes I have a live usb, I have never chrooted before but I could try. But now, without quiet splash, it gives more info from dmesg. I think all is correct for now, now I type the disk password11:55
EriC^^FireStriker: you only have 1 windows os right?11:55
mapmEriC^^, ok, now it says some things11:55
EriC^^mapm: aha11:56
mapmEriC^^, Error reading block 5775405 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading directory block.11:56
FireStrikerYea only the one11:56
Pene92olaaa11:56
alumnadola cueva de la mora11:57
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober11:57
mapmEriC^^, /dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-root: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e., without -a or -p options) fsck exited with status code 4 done. Failure: File system check of the root filesystem failed The root filesystem on /dev/mapper/blablabla requires a manual fsck11:57
mapmalright, I now know what to do (;11:57
Pene92ll<<11:57
EriC^^FireStriker: that will stop grub from adding other os than ubuntu to its menu, and windows will have the custom entry to boot it11:57
Pene92el monte de las animas11:58
Pene92el ralyo de luna11:58
Pene92el beso11:58
EriC^^!pt | Pene9211:58
ubottuPene92: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.11:58
Pene92la corza blanca11:58
Pene92los ojos verdes11:58
alumnadoel beso11:58
FireStrikerIs the custom a new file?11:58
mapmubottu, it is spanish not portuguese!11:58
mapm(:11:58
EriC^^!sp | Pene9211:59
EriC^^!spain | Pene9211:59
ubottuPene92: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:59
FireStrikerUm? I'm now confused11:59
EriC^^mapm: ok boot a live usb and check the hdd health and run a fsck11:59
EriC^^FireStriker: yes a new file, actually nevermind, type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom12:00
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mapmEriC^^, yes, I can do it from the same busybox it seems12:00
EriC^^and add the menuentry 'Windows on /dev/sda.....' { ...bla bla bla bla bla }12:00
EriC^^FireStriker: also change the name to what you put in GRUB_DEFAULT=12:01
FireStrikerWhy do I need a shift key like lol12:01
EriC^^mapm: is it installed on a usb?12:01
FireStrikerOping the on screen keyboard aign12:01
mapmEriC^^, ok, it fixed some inodes, now I reboot, let's see what happens!12:01
akikFireStriker: it's a ubuntu default but you can change it12:01
mapmEriC^^, no, the same system12:02
EriC^^i had a lot of trouble with kingston usb, it kept giving fsck errors a lot12:02
EriC^^oh ok12:02
EriC^^check the hdd health though with smartctl from smartmontools12:02
EriC^^smartctl -a /dev/sdX12:02
FireStrikerOk what do I type12:02
EriC^^FireStriker: what step are you at?12:03
EriC^^FireStriker: did you chmod -x os-prober?12:03
FireStrikerNope no chmod yet12:04
EriC^^FireStriker: ok, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober12:04
mapmEriC^^, problem solved, at least for now. I hope the disk corruption is because of a rare solar magnetic flare! Thank you very much for your help12:04
FireStrikerI'm in /etc/grub.d/40_customs12:04
FireStrikerCustom12:04
EriC^^ok12:04
EriC^^add the stuff you got earlier at the end of the file12:05
EriC^^menuentry 'Windows ....' { ...blablabla }12:05
Pene92hello12:05
EriC^^hi12:06
Pene92pusy12:06
Pene92much12:06
FireStrikerWhat was the command12:06
ubuntu988I need help12:07
EriC^^FireStriker: grep -A20 "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg12:07
EriC^^!details | ubuntu98812:07
ubottuubuntu988: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.12:07
ubuntu988Actually wifi is not working but it is connected12:08
FireStrikerWhat do I type for the menu entry?12:08
ubuntu988I installed Nvidia graphics driver previous ly12:08
EriC^^FireStriker: grep -A20 "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg12:09
EriC^^FireStriker: that gives you a list of stuff12:09
FireStrikerOh12:09
EriC^^take the part that says menuentry 'Windows blabla' { blabla }12:09
EriC^^the { are important12:09
mapmwell gotta go, thank you again and see you around!12:10
ubuntu988Hey anyone there12:10
EriC^^mapm: no problem, see you12:10
EriC^^ubuntu988: the wifi is connected?12:13
ubuntu988Ino12:13
EriC^^?12:14
ubuntu988It is showing but it's not12:14
FireStrikerOk12:14
EriC^^try ping 8.8.8.812:14
ubuntu988Ok12:14
EriC^^FireStriker: done?12:14
ubuntu9880% packet loss12:14
EriC^^so it's working?12:15
EriC^^PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.12:15
EriC^^64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=1275 ms12:15
EriC^^--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---12:15
EriC^^1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms12:15
EriC^^rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1275.102/1275.102/1275.102/0.000 ms12:15
ubuntu988But internet is not connecting12:15
EriC^^oops12:15
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/b7XVNKR.jpg12:16
gamesterWill Unity 8 support Wayland as well as Mir?12:16
EriC^^ubuntu988: if you type in the browser 172.217.22.14 does it work?12:16
FireStrikerIs that what I need to type12:16
ubuntu988Trying12:16
ubuntu988No not working12:17
EriC^^FireStriker: yeah no need to type them though just copy and paste them12:17
EriC^^ubuntu988: try ping google.com does it work?12:19
FireStrikerThe /boot/grub/grub.cfg as well12:19
ubuntu988No it's not working12:19
EriC^^FireStriker: no, i dont know why you got those, grep doesn't do that here12:19
EriC^^FireStriker: try "less /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and then scroll down to the part you need and highlight it and copy it12:20
EriC^^ubuntu988: does 5.39.93.71 in the browser work?12:20
ubuntu988No12:21
EriC^^try http://206.190.36.45/12:21
FireStriker? So I am in the wrong spot?12:21
ubuntu988I may have messed up with wifi drivers12:21
ubuntu988Now please save me12:21
EriC^^ubuntu988: why do you say that? installing nvidia drivers shouldnt affect the wifi12:22
ubuntu988That link is also not opening12:22
EriC^^http://91.189.94.40 works?12:23
EriC^^the rest had problems12:23
karthyHi12:23
ubuntu988Still not working12:23
FireStrikerEriC^^: am I in the wrong spot?12:23
EriC^^FireStriker: no, just type "less /boot/grub/grub.cfg"12:24
FireStrikerIn the terminal12:24
EriC^^or take the stuff from the grep command and remove the /boot/grub/grub.cfg at the start of each line, whatever it easier for you to do12:24
FireStrikerOr the nano12:24
EriC^^in the terminal12:25
FireStrikerDo I need the whole thing12:25
EriC^^you just need menuentry 'Windows ....' { stuff here }12:25
FireStrikerSo that photo12:25
FireStriker23:16 FireStriker http://i.imgur.com/b7XVNKR.jpg12:25
EriC^^ubuntu988: open the dash and type drivers and see additional drivers12:26
ubuntu988Ya12:26
EriC^^FireStriker: no, in the photo you just need the bottom part, and the rest of it (which isn't showing)12:26
ubuntu988There it is not showing my currently installed driver12:26
EriC^^all of what's after menuentry 'Windows ..... til the }12:26
ubuntu988Eric bye12:27
ubuntu988It didn't solve my problem12:27
EriC^^ubuntu988: ok, try lspci -knn12:27
gamesterDo we know how Wayland programs will work on Unity 8?12:28
FireStrikerSquare brackets12:29
EriC^^FireStriker: the paranthesis12:29
EriC^^FireStriker: the curly brackets12:30
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/msZfn43.jpg12:31
EriC^^FireStriker: yes, those are the start of it12:33
EriC^^it ends at chainloader ....bootmgfw.efi }12:33
EriC^^around the middle of the screen12:33
EriC^^why did grep act that way though12:34
FireStrikerCan I tell it to not do the c^ thing12:34
FireStrikerSo I can copy it12:34
FireStrikerAnd not have it move on me12:34
EriC^^FireStriker: press shift+ctrl+c12:34
EriC^^FireStriker: or highlight it and in the other terminal press middle mouse or left+right click to paste12:35
ducassegamester: afaik, mir has no support for wayland programs, but the devs have stolen so much code from wayland they might work by accident ;)12:35
usr13To paste into terminal it is Shift-Ctrl-v12:36
usr13To copy:  Shift-Ctrl-c12:36
usr13and if you've just highlighted, you would use Shift-Middle-Mouse-Button12:37
FireStrikerOk think it's done12:40
FireStrikerIs this about right12:40
FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/gNnfw5l.jpg12:40
paraxormy coworker let apt-get upgrade hang on a prompt for 4 months. then somebody deleted the lock and installed something12:41
paraxornow apt-get segfaults randomy12:42
paraxorrandomly*12:42
paraxorwhat should I do...?12:42
usr13sudo apt-get update12:42
usr13sudo apt-get -f install12:42
paraxoryeah I was able to run update12:42
usr13etc. etc. etc.12:42
paraxorbut it usually segfaults on installs12:42
paraxoror if I try to run upgrade again12:43
FireStrikerEriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/gNnfw5l.jpg is this about right?12:44
usr13dpkg --configure -a  or maybe dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a12:44
paraxorusr13: doing that now12:45
EriC^^dont run dpkg-reconfigure with -a12:45
EriC^^it will try to reconfigure the whole system i think12:45
EriC^^FireStriker: yes, great12:46
EriC^^FireStriker: rename it as you put in GRUB_DEFAULT12:46
FireStrikerWhat do I rename?12:46
usr13paraxor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/144543612:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1445436 in apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "Segmentation faults in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0" [High,Fix released]12:46
EriC^^FireStriker: the part that has menuentry 'Windows boot manager ...'12:47
FireStrikerJust the one line12:47
usr13paraxor: See what EriC^^ said12:47
FireStrikerOk now what I think is done but idk lol12:47
FireStrikerThanks for the help btw EriC^^12:48
EriC^^FireStriker: np, ok last step on grub12:49
EriC^^type sudo update-grub12:50
FireStrikerOk12:50
FireStrikerUm no network12:50
FireStrikerDrivers broke after install I would guess12:50
FireStrikerBut I was connected durning the install12:50
EriC^^ok, can you test out if grub is working correctly first though?12:51
FireStrikerBy restating?12:51
EriC^^yeah, try to restart and see if windows is there and default and stuff12:51
FireStrikerk12:51
EriC^^did you run sudo update-grub ?12:51
splashinglost everything now12:52
uddanehey guys, on 16.04 and I'm getting errors on certain repositories when updating... I tried disabling the repositories, but it's still failing. I am getting the normal security updates, but the failing repositories are for things like watching blu-ray discs12:53
FireStrikerOk grub works but as I haven't changed the name of the windows boot it hasn't done anything12:54
EriC^^FireStriker: i dont follow12:54
EriC^^what do you mean?12:54
FireStrikerThe thing was called Windows boot manager12:55
FireStrikerOh wait I added it right12:55
FireStrikerLol12:55
EriC^^did you run sudo update-grub?12:56
FireStrikerNope lol12:56
max3where can i check why a process got a sigkill from the kernel? is it /var/log/syslog?12:57
FireStrikerSyntax error12:57
EriC^^FireStriker: screenshot the error12:58
FireStrikerFound it12:58
FireStrikerIt does t like the name12:59
FireStrikerNeed to remove the brackets12:59
lordcirthuddane, well, what are the error messages?  Pastebin if it's long12:59
uddanelordcirth: ppa.launchpad.net/mjblenner/ppa-hal/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg: Signature by key 2593A4E4DD279EB5D3351B2C61BC8B25BF7B8DAF uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1), E:Failed to fetch13:01
RoySomeone around here who can help me with a nvidia/glx/bumblebee/primus problem?13:01
lordcirthuddane, well there you go.  Your ppa is using SHA1 and is thus not trusted.  Look at the docs for the ppa, or contact the owner and let him know.13:02
lordcirth!ask | Roy13:02
ubottuRoy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:02
uddanelordcirth: thanks  :-( was hoping for a fix13:02
alakxHello! How can i make my ubuntu 16.04.1 working with UEFI boot?13:06
FireStrikerEriC^^:   http://i.imgur.com/vswLYTb.jpg13:08
uddanelordcirth: wow, looked up the owner of the ppa an his page says he's not an active member of any Launchpad teams13:08
uddanelordcirth: so I'm probably SOL13:09
Roy!patient13:09
Roy!patience13:10
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:10
EriC^^FireStriker: type "cat /etc/default/grub" and take a screenshot13:10
Sonderbladehow do you get terminus to work in 16.04? i have it installed but can't choose the font in dialogs. i could in 15.1013:10
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FireStrikerhttp://i.imgur.com/5PdUZjq.jpg EriC^^13:12
lordcirthalakx, bootstrap/3.3.7/css/bootstrap.min.css13:13
lordcirthalakx, oops, wrong paste: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:13
RoyWhen I try to start an application using primusrun / optirun, I get this error: primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied13:15
EriC^^FireStriker: use single quotes in GRUB_DEFAUL='Windows 8.1'13:15
FireStrikerK13:16
RoyIn my Xorg log, there is an other error as well: [   539.479] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/nvidia-367/xorg/libglx.so: libnvidia-tls.so.367.57: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory13:16
FireStrikerWhat about the other nano13:16
Roymy user has the video groep added, and the files mentioned exist in the folders that are configured in bumblebee config: Nvidia driver version: 367.57, ubuntu gnome 16.0413:17
FireStriker40_custom13:17
FireStrikerDo I need the quotes wouldn't think so now I think of it13:18
hheehey!13:18
FireStrikerIt worked this time13:18
hheeguys which way i need to use in ubuntu to launch program with hotkeys?13:18
hheelaunch or focus if already running13:18
FireStrikerWin 8.1 bottom of it but meh but I was first one highlighted13:19
FireStrikerI need to go to bed but next is the driver issues13:20
FireStrikerThanks EriC^^13:21
EriC^^FireStriker: what did you mean about the quotes in nano?13:21
EriC^^FireStriker: sure13:21
FireStrikerNvm lol13:21
EriC^^FireStriker: grub's working fine?13:22
FireStrikerYep13:22
EriC^^window's there and default?13:22
FireStrikerYep13:22
devkortBonjour quand je génère mon paquet .deb j'ai cette erreur: bash: /usr/bin/ouifind : /usr/bin/bash : mauvais interpréteur: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type13:22
EriC^^FireStriker: ok cool :)13:22
FireStrikerWindows was first highlighted13:22
EriC^^!fr | devkort13:22
ubottudevkort: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:22
EriC^^FireStriker: you want it at the top as well?13:23
FireStrikerBut was at bottom of list but meh I can't be bothered13:23
EriC^^it' doable13:23
FireStrikerIt's alright at bottoms13:23
EriC^^ok, maybe next time13:23
FireStrikerNight (or afternoon where you are) EriC^^13:23
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EriC^^thank you, you too13:24
devkortHello when I generate my .deb package I have this error  bash: /usr/bin/ouifind : /usr/bin/bash : mauvais interpréteur: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type   (The French channel is desert)13:26
BluesKajdevkort, what .deb package is it ?13:27
devkortA handmade package in script python13:29
devkortBluesKaj: I get the impression that the script in / usr / bin is not recognized as bash script13:30
BluesKajwhy the dot in front of deb, ?13:31
BluesKajif you write a bash scrpt it should be a .sh extension, devkort'\13:33
Roydevkort, have you put the #!/bin/bash line on top?13:33
Southern_Gentlemand do you have #!/bin/bash at the beginning of the script13:33
Southern_Gentlemalso check the permissions that it is executable13:33
devkortRoy yes , I have not put the .sh  extension and yes i have ordered chmod +x13:34
hheeguys, how can i minimize current opened window?13:35
anddamhhee: it depends on the wm, I guess13:36
devkortin /usr/bin there is no extension to the file13:36
hheeanddam, unity13:36
uddanehhee: top left corner of the window...13:36
hheeuddane, nope. not close i mean13:37
hheei need hotkey13:37
hheei know how maximize current window, but need hotkey for minimize13:38
uddanehhee: Ctrl+Alt+013:38
anddamIIRC there's a cheatsheet in Unity, not sure how to display it but I remember I learned a couple shortcuts that way13:38
anddamand strictly speaking Unity isn't a wm, is it?13:38
hheeuddane, thx a lot, exactly!13:39
anddamdevkort: why is it /usr/bin/bash?13:39
uddanehhee: System settings> keyboard > shortcut> windows... is where you will find them all13:39
anddamdevkort: and couldn't you switch LANG to C for the error report?13:39
hheeuddane, thx again!13:40
devkortNo i put #!/bin/bash13:40
uddanehhee: you're welcome  :-)13:40
devkortI change the language of the error report13:41
devkortBad Interpreter: No such file or folder. the file exists13:42
pandaadbHi - i am not sure how this usually works. Is Xorg 1.19 going to roll out to Ubuntu 16.04 automatically or would that be a manual upgrade process?13:45
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spm_dragetI eventually have some qt* packages installed manually (i.e. selected). I would like to remove qt stuff but only if it is not some dependency of some other package. How can I do that?13:51
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uddaneok guys... getting an AACS error when attempting to play blu-rays (Blu-ray error:13:51
uddaneNo valid processing key found in AACS config file.) can this file be updated?13:51
spm_dragetSofar: "dpkg --get-selections | grep qt" to find slected installed qt-related packages. Then deselect them somehow and use apt autoremove? Will that work?13:52
younderWhat has happened to my mazon cite? It only shows text, will not accept ssh nad is pretty much useless?13:53
younder++++amazon13:53
younderTrying the same address on my windows machine works fine.13:53
younderI s this a general problem or is it just me. I use chromium.13:54
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mcphailyounder: could it be the current chromium SSL "bug"?13:58
mcphailyounder: serveal large sites have minor misconfigurations in their certificates, and chromium is breaking with them13:59
hheeguys ubuntu 16.04 unity DE. video dont play properly in vlc or smplayer14:20
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cfhowletthhee, what kind of video?  ubuntu version?14:21
bitsimpleany suggestion of free shell where I can host my IRC bot ?14:23
lotuspsychjebitsimple: perhaps #freenode would be better place to ask?14:24
lotuspsychje!alis | bitsimple to find specific channels14:25
ubottubitsimple to find specific channels: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http14:25
hheecfhowlett, ubuntu 16.04. as i wrote. codac MPEG-4 AAC  (.mp4)14:25
cfhowletthhee, error msgs? If not, start vlc from the command line and note the feedback14:26
hheecfhowlett, vlc play just sound. without video14:28
breezy_why does my cursor disappear in certain windows sometimes14:28
hheecfhowlett, no errors if i run from terminal14:28
hheecfhowlett, oh wait14:29
cfhowletthhee, do you have all the codecs installed?  sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:29
hheecfhowlett, Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_va_gl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory14:29
cfhowletthhee, also tested on all .mp4's or does only 1 .mp4 fail14:29
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hateballhhee: well do you have vdpau configured but not the required libs installed?14:31
jf02jfvkserv identify password12314:32
jf02jfvn14:32
cfhowlettjf02jfv, and no you have shared your password with the world.  go change it.14:33
hheecfhowlett, i installed  ubuntu-restricted-extras. aolso tried several video files to open14:34
hheecfhowlett, without changes14:34
hheehateball, nope. what's it? how can i setup it?14:34
creatI didn't think I'll see someone with a password like that.14:34
hheecreat, why not?14:34
creatidk, it seems plain stupid14:35
creatHow did you install VLC?14:36
hheecreat, yep14:37
hheecreat, apt-get install vlc14:37
creatThat should work out of box.14:39
creatUnless you changed some preferences.14:39
lotuspsychjehhee: you got right graphics drivers installed?14:39
creat^14:40
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hheelotuspsychje, how can i find out this? i just installed ubuntu out of box14:40
hheecreat, didn't touch any prefs14:41
lotuspsychjehhee: check the additional drivers section, let us know wich drivers are in your list14:41
hheegot it14:41
kam187hi guys14:41
kam187i'm installing a new server and a bit confused why it wont boot14:41
hheelotuspsychje, only processor microcode there is14:42
hheefor intel cpu14:42
lotuspsychjehhee: how about sudo lshw -C video behind driver= ?14:42
hheemy cpu - model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz14:42
cfhowletthhee, I also get that vpdau error on my .mp4 but the videos play anyway.  try this from command line: vlc video.mp4                  while video plays, check the terminal to see if additional info comes up14:43
kam187I have a 22TB (hw raid) disk /sda and SSD /dev/sdb.   I install ubuntu to the SSD /dev/sdb and make the / partition bootable14:43
kam187then i install grub to /dev/sdb14:43
kam187but it's not booting14:43
xingxingjoin #qq14:44
hheelotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23490781/14:44
hheecfhowlett, only one issue, as i wrote - Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_va_gl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory14:44
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kam187nvm was set to boot the wrong RAID disk in the controller setup :/14:47
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hheereboot14:49
docmurI'm doing a debootstrap install of ubuntu 16.04 and it's working fine.  After the debootstrap, I do an apt-get install linux-image-generic grub2, to grab a kernel and initrd for me, then I do grub-install /dev/sda.  The problem is that one reboot I'm getting no initrd found, pass init= to the kernel.  Shouldn't linux-image-generic take care of this14:50
blacknred0is snap the strategic install for ubuntu 16.04 going forward?14:51
hheeguys cfu6466 lotuspsychje i rebooted and vlc works fine14:52
lotuspsychjehhee: what fixxed it you think?14:52
hheelotuspsychje, dunno. :-|14:52
peleonhi14:56
hheepeleon, oh hi! :)14:56
mordofi'm on ubuntu 16.04, and i'm experiencing a scenario where no domain gets resolved - my dns is just not working. i'm using 8.8.8.8 or 4.4.4.4 for my dns addresses - which i can ping both of them (or any ip address)14:56
mordofi've tried force reloading network-manager, dealing with resolvconf, all of the posts about how to resolve dns issues - nothing has helped14:56
peleoncan someone help me, Im trying to install kubuntu in my pc. When i create the usb live I, boot it. When It boots, I see the type of grub with the options: start it or install oem. When I select some option my screen become black14:57
mordofif anyone has any knowledge in this area to help me debug, your help would be greatly appreciated. thanks :)14:57
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mordofpeleon: i know very little about that topic, but it may be a situation where you'll need to boot with special options to choose graphics card/display details14:59
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peleon02but other distros like debian and deepin I can boot it14:59
OerHeks!nomodeset15:00
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:00
mordofpeleon02: it's not a situation where you're unable to use anything - but it's likely just a specific situation with that live installer. the info OerHeks pointed out will likely help15:01
wingnutHi, I am trying to help openvpn debug a coredump but I am not proficient at coredumps and I am using ubuntu 16.04 server (no gui) could somebody help me find the crash file15:02
wingnutthanks15:02
younderforget about coredums. Noone understands tem anymore15:03
wingnutgreat advise ...15:03
younderDo look at the log15:03
wingnutwhich log ?15:03
SpeConcan anyone tell my why i have issues with libreoffice in Kubuntu with my items / menu  i see the background of my desktop background15:03
SpeConwich is pink15:03
younderprobably /var/log/messages15:04
SpeConi have a screenshot can i pastebin that somewhere so you can see what my issue is?15:04
akikyounder: ubuntu doesn't write into /var/log/messages. it's /var/log/syslog15:05
wingnutyounder: systemd .. there is no /var/log/messages15:05
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younderdmessg15:06
samlbefore installing a package, how can I find out which repo it'll download from?15:06
younderdmesg15:07
wingnutyounder: this is systemd ..15:08
youndersaml apt search <name>15:08
SpeConhttp://imgur.com/gallery/TkBKh15:09
SpeConthis is my upload of my screenshot15:09
SpeConwith my problem15:09
mordofanyone have any thoughts on how to troubleshoot DNS not resolving? both dig and nslookup just give "servers could not be reached" for any command i try, even with debug flags15:09
younderI am still new to systemd. More used to upstart give me a minute15:09
SpeConcan anyone please check the url and tell me how to fix this?15:09
mordofi can ping ip addresses and communicate with ip directly just fine - internet isn't a problem, but dns will not resolve at all15:09
samlapt-cache policy15:09
younderSpeCon: all I see is a libre office writer window15:10
SpeConindeed15:10
SpeConbut check the pink collour in the background of the menu15:11
wingnutall i need to know is where the coredump is .. apparently it should be /var/crash but there is nothing there15:11
SpeConthats not normal15:11
coredumpI am in DC15:11
SpeConmy desktop background is pink and now it shows this pink collour in libreoffice background menu15:11
SpeConi dunno why but yeah15:11
mordoflol xD15:11
FinalXhey - I'm following https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS with 16.04.1 but when I'm in the chroot environment with everything up to there done, grub-probe / just goes "unknown filesystem" instead of zfs, while zfs-initramfs just been installed and all.15:11
FinalXanyknow know why? driving me nuts. did it with 16.04 a while back in a kvm and it all worked just fine.15:11
youndercat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern15:13
wingnutyounder: |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c %P15:14
wingnutbut i already looked here15:14
younderno run /usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c %P15:15
mcphailwingnut: does this help the crash files to be generated? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#Ubuntu_12.04_and_later15:16
CarlFKhost veyepar.nextdayvideo.com says veyepar.nextdayvideo.com has address 166.78.244.211 (good)   ping says 64 bytes from veyepar.nextdayvideo.com (162.209.96.130)  (not good.  this is the old IP from 12 hours ago)15:16
anotherssaHi there!15:17
CarlFKhow do I flush whatever local cache dns is using?15:17
anotherssaGuys, I need your help15:17
wingnutmcphail: I was reading that .. I have # out 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'], and rebooted .. openvpn coredumped again .. but what then ?15:17
mcphailwingnut: anything in /var/crash now?15:18
wingnutnothing :(15:18
mcphailwingnut: I know systemd eats core dumps as well. I wonder if that is happening?15:18
wingnutmaybe systemd is intercepting ?15:18
younderMost moder systems are set up not to coredump15:19
SeventhSkyhello15:19
wingnutI'll ask in #systemd thanks fir help :)15:20
anotherssaWhile reinstalling Ubuntu 16.04 I got an UEFI error, after that error usb flash driver disaperead from Boot Menu. Please help me.15:20
mcphailwingnut: try looking in /var/lib/systemd/coredump (if it exists)15:20
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mcphailwingnut: and make sure you have ulimit -c unlimited (or whatever value you are happy with)15:21
somaReverseHi, my ubuntu terminal is broken. Alternative screen capability is gone, and colors are cranky15:21
somaReversewhat can I do?15:21
somaReversevim, emacs , tmux all behave abnormally15:22
CarlFKsomaReverse: tell us more about "broken"15:22
somaReverseAlternative screen capability is gone15:22
mordofanyone have any knowledge on advanced debugging of why dns won't resolve on ubuntu 16.04? i've tried everything i've come across in normal posts - nothing is helping15:22
mordofat this point all i've got left is to format and reinstall, lol.. i'd really rather not do that if i can avoid it though15:23
SeventhSkyhello ... i have a asus x550v with nvidia and intel...but when i try to boot from usb ther is message nouveau eroe bla bla bla...how to disable nouvau on usb bootable boot?15:23
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younderSeventhSky, Install a nvidia driver from the nvidia webcite15:24
CarlFKmordof: what does this give you: host goo.gl15:25
younderSeventhSky, If you have a UEFI intsall though be aware15:25
SeventhSkyyounder : cannot boot from usb ...how i can install it ??15:25
younderSeventhSky, via nthe net15:25
lotuspsychjeyounder: thats not a very good avise, ubuntu has already nvidia drivers15:25
SeventhSkyyounder : yes UEFI mode a....15:25
youndernoveaux is not a nvidea driver15:26
mordofCarlFK: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached15:26
SeventhSkyyounder : nouveau is radeon driver... how to disable it on usb boot?15:26
ducasseyounder: nouvau is the open source nvidia driver15:26
younderyou get them form http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html15:26
somaReverseCarlFK: this magit window's color are completely gone https://ptpb.pw/D5Hk.jpg15:26
somaReverseIt should look like this https://ptpb.pw/OK-A.jpg15:27
ducasseSeventhSky: no, don't get them from the nvidia site, do as lotuspsychje says15:27
somaReverseand tmux stops working anymore15:27
Roynouveau is indeed an open-source nvidia driver.15:28
wingnutyounder: mcphail: systemd-coredumpctl .. looking into that now :)15:28
younderducasse, and it is shit ise a nvidia driver15:28
SeventhSkybut i cant boot from usb?? with my asus...but i try with my hp laptop with same usb drive...and its work fine...15:28
lotuspsychje!language | younder15:28
ubottuyounder: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:28
RoyWhy doesn't nouveau work? Isn't it supposed to be easier to use nouveau than to use the official nvidia driver?15:29
ducasseyounder: you are entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is15:29
younderI use cuda, and quite frankly all noveaux is good for is 2D acceleration for a desktop. For games, forget it15:30
lotuspsychjeRoy: in some cases, some cards will need optimus and nvidia drivers version from ubuntu, or ubuntu ppa15:30
mordofCarlFK: anything else to try by chance?15:30
SeventhSkyanyone can help me please15:31
CarlFKmordof:  I am gonna say your local dhcp isn't giving you a good dns IP.  what you are using for dhcp and what it is handing out as dns is ... a new problem15:31
younderI know the nvidia drivers are withot source code, but they are free. So I use them, and so should you. Unless you dont do games or Cuad15:31
youndercuda15:32
srinivasnayakanybody who compiles linux kernel here?15:32
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | SeventhSky15:32
ubottuSeventhSky: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:32
mordofCarlFK: i've got 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 specified as my dns servers. i've also tried opendns15:32
SeventhSkylotuspsychje : sory15:32
lotuspsychjeSeventhSky: try to boot nomodeset, then choose another driver from additional drivers perhaps15:32
lotuspsychje!mainline | srinivasnayak15:33
mordofCarlFK: i can also ping those IP addresses with no issue15:33
ubottusrinivasnayak: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds15:33
ducassesrinivasnayak: why would you want to do that?15:33
SeventhSkybig thanks ubottu and lotuspsychje...i will try..... :D15:34
srinivasnayakducasse: i want to find a smaller subset of huge linux source which actually gets executed for a simpler hardware...say a i386 SBC15:35
dtcrshr!iommu15:35
_0xdeadfacehow can i open a windowed app always in fullscreen?15:35
younder_0xdeadface, If thae applicatio has suc an option15:36
younder_0xdeadface, the os can't set this15:36
ducassesrinivasnayak: the people in ##linux are probably better able to help you15:36
srinivasnayak:-(15:37
ducasse_0xdeadface: use devilspie (and gdevilspie if you want a gui to configure it)15:37
ducassesrinivasnayak: a vanilla kernel will not run on 386 anymore in any case, it was deprecated some time ago iirc15:39
srinivasnayakyes i know15:39
CarlFKmordof:  host -v goo.gl 8.8.8.815:39
srinivasnayakif we go back to the old kernel version ?15:39
srinivasnayaksay 2.615:39
CarlFKmordof: should end with Received 84 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53 in 38 ms15:39
srinivasnayakwhen 386 was supported...15:39
ducassesrinivasnayak: then you lose a lot of modern features, but yes. but try ##linux, this has nothing to do with ubuntu15:40
mordofCarlFK: yup, that gives me all the information including that at the end15:40
ImUs3runbuntu don’t have windows list?15:40
blackflowAny wikipedia editors in the house? The wikipedia entry on Ubuntu server says ZFS is implemented via FUSE, not as regular kernel module. Surely that's not correct?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Ubuntu_Server15:41
CarlFKmordof: "i've got 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 specified as my dns servers" - I am guessing you want that, but you don't.15:41
CarlFKmordof: "i've got 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 specified as my dns servers" - I am guessing you want that, but you don't have that.15:41
ducasseblackflow: try #ubuntu-doc, or even better a wikipedia channel. not much we can do.15:42
OerHeksblackflow, not our job to correct this, try #wikipedia?15:42
mordofCarlFK: that's what it's stated as in the network manager for my dns records. if that's not reliable, i don't know how else to do it. i also have both of those confirmed as nameservers in my resolv.conf15:42
ImUs3rwhen i excute 2 terminal, then how can i select it? unbuntu don’t have windows list? ?15:42
xJeremyCxHey guys. I get distortion when playing musics with my headphones. I'm running Ubuntu 16.1015:43
blackflowducasse: I'll try #ubuntu-doc, thanks.15:43
CarlFKmordof: what does "primary dns" say in the "connection information" dialog?15:43
xJeremyCxThis had never happened before. Everything was fine until few days ago15:43
xJeremyCxI found that the stereo audio is mixed together, outputting a mono audio15:44
xJeremyCxIs there any way to fix this?15:45
OerHeksImUs3r, use alt+tab, when you see the terminal, keep holing alt, then 2 terminals show up, use arrows to select15:45
mordofCarlFK: i'm on gnome 3 ubuntu 16.04, so the exact wording your using isn't in the panels - but in the network manager it has   "DNS 8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" for the connection15:45
mordofunless there's another area i should look for that info15:45
BloomHello guys. Im doing a test which contains two picture, one named hackertron.png.gpg which i am supposed to unlock and the other one is named Moscow_watchdog_4.jpeg, so far i found out that there is a password saying "TissotIsTime" inside of the Moscow picture, i also got the information that i need to decrypt the hackertron picture with aes256. Do any of you guys know how i can do that through my linux machine?15:45
mordofyou're*15:45
CarlFKmordof: are you looking at the settings you can edit, or the current status?15:45
mordofboth say the same15:46
OerHeksBloom, is this your homework?15:46
xJeremyCxwhen I test my headphones I'm hearing "front left" on both sides15:46
CarlFKmordof: try using just 8.8.8.8  ...  I am thinking maybe the 'syntax' or whaever of listing 2 isn't right15:47
BloomNo it's not15:47
mordofCarlFK: elaborating: when i'm in edit mode, there's the ability to add extra dns entries, each with their own input. when i've got both entered, i have 2 inputs, each containing one of the addresses. the "DNS 8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" is the resulting status string that it displays on the main panel15:48
mordofCarlFK: you're right though, if i had put that in while editing it probably would've freaked out15:48
ImUs3rOerHeks: then there is no windows list?15:48
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for{}ducasse, gdevilspie doesnt work15:49
CarlFKmordof: im out of ideas - my guess is that setting you are looking at isn't being used.15:49
OerHeksImUs3r, nope.15:49
ducassefor{}: oh, devilspie2 then?15:49
ImUs3rthanks OerHeks ;)15:49
OerHeksImUs3r, you could see 2 instances on your panel too15:50
for{}but i want gui, ducasse15:50
BloomOerHeks no it's not15:50
ImUs3rOerHeks: ubuntu vs debian, which is more stable?15:50
ducassefor{}: "you can't always get what you want..." :)15:50
mordofCarlFK: it does seem that way. but i've fiddled with resolvconf, and force reloading the network-manager daemon as well after making the changes. i don't know how to check which dns server it's trying to use either15:50
for{}what if you never get what you want?15:51
ducasseImUs3r: depends on what you mean by 'stable', but it's offtopic here. try #ubuntu-offtopic15:51
OerHeksImUs3r, ubuntu, what do you expect in ubuntu-support-channel?15:51
OerHeks+ answer15:51
ImUs3ri will do programming with ubuntu.15:51
mordofCarlFK: i looked in /var/log/syslog   in hopes that any dns stuff would show up, but to no avail. if there's logs, or ways to be all "what dns server are you using?" then maybe that would be helpful15:52
for{}its ubuntu vs debian sid15:53
for{}at least i heard it would be15:53
ducassefor{}: honestly, devilspie rules are quite easy to write. if this is standard ubuntu with unity i think compiz also has some built-in window allocation features. have you tried compiz-config-settings-manager?15:54
for{}ducasse, i saw nothing like 'fullscreen for <app name>' in ccsm15:55
BloomHello guys. Im doing a test which contains two picture, one named hackertron.png.gpg which i am supposed to unlock and the other one is named Moscow_watchdog_4.jpeg, so far i found out that there is a password saying "TissotIsTime" inside of the Moscow picture, i also got the information that i need to decrypt the hackertron picture with aes256. Do any of you guys know how i can do that through my linux machine?15:57
ducassefor{}: then i think devilspie or maybe wmctrl are your best choices.15:58
OerHeksBloom, do you have the aes256 key ?15:59
BloomIm pretty sure that it's TissotIsTime as i have nothing else15:59
BloomI have a link to the picture where it's just a small box OerHeks16:00
BloomOerheks http://flerehackere.dk/style/ Here is the things i have access to, in the Moscow picture if you download it and open with notepad the password is in the bottom of the document16:00
ducasseBloom: is this for a contest?16:02
tcouploadI need some help16:02
Bloomducasse: Yes16:02
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tcouploadi open a link in a email and the result was 3 commands like "/bin/bash -ilc command env"16:02
tcouploadto stop them need to use sudo...16:02
tcouploadin a research i saw the bash options i(interactive) and c(read from) so after stop them i change my pass16:02
tcouploadbut i need help to understant the "command env" part!!16:02
Jordan_UBloom: Are you allowed to be asking for help from others in this contest?16:02
BloomThere is nothing illegal related to this16:02
usr13Do we get to share the prize money?16:03
ducasseBloom: then you should figure it out yourself, shouldn't you? at the very least, i'd expect you to try google.16:03
BloomJordan_U: everything is permitted16:03
* OerHeks loves aes256 bitcoins16:03
BloomNo price pool lol16:03
ducassetcoupload: 'help command'16:04
usr13tcoupload: man env16:05
OerHeksEncrypt and decrypt hex strings using AES-128 and AES-256, supporting basic modes of operation, ECB, CBC. bla bla >> http://extranet.cryptomathic.com/aescalc/index16:05
akikBloom: try openssl enc -d16:05
tcouploadducasse: my bad.. i thought there was a real command... lol16:08
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for{}ducasse, it works!16:16
for{}at least for now16:16
for{}i use devilspie216:16
ducassefor{}: great :) just have it autostart, and it should always work for that application.16:17
for{}thanks, ducasse16:18
ducassefor{}: yw16:19
boriseto-workHow can I execute a snap from terminal (lets say VLC for example)? Can I bind it with other apps for opening directly a file or link?16:23
TrelI'm having a bit of an issue.  I installed mariadb which broke everything, and I'm trying to remove it and mysql so I can start over.  I can't seem to get mysql to install now.  Any clue at all what I can do?16:23
OerHeksboriseto-work, don't open a gui program from terminal.16:24
OerHeksboriseto-work, if you *must*: vlc &16:24
boriseto-workOerHeks: I know, but usually that's the "run" command as well. Also, it isn't VLC from repo, it's the Snap version.16:25
root____8hi16:25
glitchdhow can i get a script to run before login?16:26
Southern_Gentlemrc.local16:26
glitchdand carry over into the session i log into16:26
OerHeksboriseto-work, ehm ... so you have regular and spap package installed? what does - apt-cache policy vlc - say?16:26
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, care to give me a hand as i have no idea how to accomplish that16:27
Southern_Gentlemglitchd, what exactly are you trying to do16:27
OerHeksi think the newest will be called16:27
boriseto-workOerHeks: that it's installed from ppa16:28
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OerHekssnap list16:29
boriseto-workOerHeks: in the dash I have both of the versions, the one from the ppa and the snap one, but the snap one at the moment behaves better with the current intel hardware/software16:29
boriseto-workOerHeks: I have vlc there as well. :)16:29
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, well i have another machine setup and instead of having 2 keyboards and 2 mice, i would like to use one each and control both machines. i already have that working. but when i boot the second machine i have to get up, plug in a keyboard and mouse, login, the run the script for it to connect to the control server running on my main machine. i want the script to launch at boot so i can use the keyboard from machine 1 to log into machine 2.16:29
Southern_Gentlemso add the script to /etc/rc.local and it will run on every reboot16:30
glitchdand how exactly do i add it to rc.local16:30
OerHeksboriseto-work, again: what does - apt-cache policy vlc - say?16:31
OerHeksi think only the newest will be called16:31
Southern_Gentlemglitchd,  sorry to be this way but you need to learn more so its time for you to google rc.local16:31
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, seriously?16:31
OerHeksi think both ppa and regular and snap are 2.2.216:31
boriseto-workOerHeks: http://pastebin.com/tnpVTs3G16:32
boriseto-workNope, the snap is 3.x16:32
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, youre awful. step on a tack.16:33
boriseto-workOerHeks: what you are saying is if I had only the snap version, if I execute vlc (in terminal or app), it should load that one?16:33
Southern_Gentlemglitchd,  you dont understand the basic FHS stuff nor how to edit a file yes you need to do some research16:34
w0jtashello, how can i upgrade ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 ? i want to have 16.04 but 15.04 -> 16.04 doesn't work16:34
ducasse!eolupgrade | w0jtas16:35
ubottuw0jtas: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:35
devslashI upgraded a virtualbox VM that was running Ubuntu 15.10 to 16.10 and now it won't boot. After I enter the encryption password, it hangs on the lock screen. It shows "ACPI: No IRQ available for PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD]. Try pci=noacpi or acpi=off [ 28.725633] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0 SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr" I'm pretty sure that this message was there before this problem started and isn't16:35
devslashrelated to the problem itself think that16:35
frankiee_Hi! Which version of xubuntu must I install for a non-PAE kernel? (Intel Celeron M 1.40GHz) HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop.16:36
nicomachusdevslash: did you try using "force_addr=0xaddr"?16:37
devslashwhat address would i use16:37
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, i know basic things, i can edit files. if you have used xubuntu 16.04 you would know that rc.local is not used by default anymore and has moved to systemd. thats why i was asking for an explanation. drop the attitude and help the people asking for help or leave and stop wasting peoples time. jerk.16:37
devslashnicomachus, What address would I use16:38
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, and dont reply to me again.16:38
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frankiee_glitchd: You gotta admit, systemd sucks though :/16:39
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frankiee_systemd ie. compared to http://man.openbsd.org/rc.816:40
devslashcan anyone help me out16:40
glitchdseriously tho, what a tool that guy is.16:41
OerHeksboriseto-work, no clue, i see 2 vlc instances in my panel, biug and smaller icon. not sure howto start the 3.0 version from terminal, i think you never should launch from terminal.16:41
Southern_Gentlemglitchd,  create one and see16:42
OerHeksboriseto-work, maybe the guys in #snappy can give that answer16:42
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, go away.16:42
HoloIRCUser1Is 16.10 worth upgrading16:43
boriseto-workOerHeks: oh, wasn't aware about that channel, thanks. It wasn't for running it from the terminal, it was more for giving the exec command to an app, to use instead of regular vlc... But thank you anyway.16:43
v_chartestcnet.ee16:43
glitchdSouthern_Gentlem, fyi, youre ignored now.16:43
Southern_Gentlemglitchd,  good16:43
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HoloIRCUser1Is 16.10 worth upgrade16:45
TomyWorkhey there16:45
ducasseglitchd: just add a line that runs the script to /etc/rc.local, there's no magic involved16:45
EriC^^hi TomyWork16:45
TomyWorkbluetooth on my dell precision m4800 doesn't work out of the box, but i found this: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=53R2116:45
TomyWorkdmesg suggests all i need would be firmware16:46
geniiHoloIRCUser1: If you have no pressing need for something which only 16.10 has, you're better off to stay on 16.04.1 LTS for now16:46
OerHeksHoloIRCUser1, users can have benefit with the newer kernel for newest hardware, else i would stick to LTS16:46
TomyWorki'm still downloading, what kind of file(s) should i be looking for in that package?16:46
TomyWork(not going to install all of it, i like my system :))16:46
HoloIRCUser1Thanks16:46
glitchdducasse, but thats the thing with 16.10, rc.local isnt used by default16:46
glitchdducasse, its using systemd if i read correctly16:46
Southern_Gentlemglitchd, then you need to read up more on systemd16:47
TomyWork-rw-r--r-- david/david    12112 2013-04-08 11:15 debs/oem-bt-dw1550-dkms_0.1_all.deb16:47
TomyWorkdoes this sound like what i want?16:47
ducasseglitchd: it seems to be active here, otherwise just enable it with systemctl16:47
blackflowglitchd: I think they're trying to tell you that if it exists, rc.local will be executed by systemd.16:47
VystyYao, anyone kicking around?16:48
VystyAnyone have the experience that Unity bogs down a bit more than Gnome?16:48
glitchdblackflow, that makes more sense16:48
glitchdducasse, i just found info on how to re-enable rc.local so im trying that16:48
glitchdducasse, blackflow thank you both16:49
blackflowglitchd: while at it, I'd recommend looking into writing your own proper unit file, to get used to it as ewll16:49
xanguaVysty well it uses compiz so...16:49
Vystyxangua: Whazzat?16:49
glitchdblackflow, im not even sure what that is..16:50
blackflowglitchd: core configuration files for services, sockets, timers, .... under systemd16:50
glitchdblackflow, ohh, ill check that out then, thanks again!16:51
blackflowglitchd: there are tutorials like this: http://patrakov.blogspot.hr/2011/01/writing-systemd-service-files.html16:51
glitchdblackflow, welp i just add my script to rc.local now im about to reboot to see if it works or not16:52
blackflowglitchd: for one-off scripts (execute once, don't daemonize) you need to set Type=oneshot. Definitely look at docs.16:52
kostkonTomyWork: dkms so yeah it's a kernel module, most likely a driver16:52
glitchdblackflow, will do16:53
glitchdblackflow, nope adding my script to rc.local did not start it16:56
TomyWorkkostkon looks like i cant build it though :/16:56
TomyWorkerror: ‘struct hci_dev’ has no member named ‘load_firmware’16:56
TomyWorkhdev->load_firmware = btusb_load_firmware16:56
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kostkonTomyWork: dkms is giving you errors?16:57
TomyWorkyes16:57
boriseto-workOerHeks: so it's this simple: for binding it from another app (let's say I want to open a video from there), instead of "vlc" I should use "/snap/bin/vlc"16:57
TomyWorkwell the package is, but i think it invokes dkms in postinst16:57
TomyWorkpackage linux-headers-$(uname -r)-generic is installed and it's the one it wants to build with17:00
ducasseTomyWork: the source is probably under /usr/src, try building it manually and see where it fails17:05
vihsiplease help me to install wifi driver in ubuntu 16.04 please help me,17:08
TomyWorkducasse i have the make.log the package left17:10
TomyWorkducasse would that be enough?17:10
vihsihelp me please17:10
vihsi#ablest17:11
youndervihsi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo17:11
vihsisir i checked almost everything in internet, but nothing work17:12
vihsi@younder17:12
vihsi<younder>17:12
younderBut you never told us anything about what device or what driver17:13
vihsisir  output of lspci is17:14
vihsifuchs@freenode/staff/fuchs17:14
vihsisorry17:14
vihsi02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01) Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [11ad:0642]17:14
ablestwhat computer do you got?17:14
vihsiacer aspire17:14
vihsie517:14
ablesthttp://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers17:16
usr13vihsi: sudo modprobe ath9k && dmesg | grep ath17:16
ableste5 or e500?17:16
vihsimodprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ath9k': Invalid argument17:17
ablesthttp://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/309?b=117:17
ablest^17:17
usr13vihsi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic17:17
lxleuserhi, I installed lxle today. Audio is not working now. what can I do?17:18
usr13vihsi: Fully updated?17:18
vihsiyes sir17:18
usr13lxleuser: alsamixer17:18
usr13vishesh: linux-headers-generic installed?17:19
lxleuserusr13: I didn't get you.17:19
lxleuserI am new to lenux17:19
vihsiyeah almost sir17:19
usr13lxleuser: In terminal run  alsamixer  Make sure everything is turned up, etc. etc.17:19
younderhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/708061/qualcomm-atheros-device-168c0042-rev-30-wi-fi-driver-installation17:20
lxleuserusr13: but i have pulseaudio installed in lxle17:20
usr13vihsi: Reboot afterwards and let us know.17:20
TomyWorkducasse a fix for this seems to be in quantal, raring and saucy, but not in trusty17:20
vihsi<usr13> updated sir, and also no wifi option available in bar of ubuntu17:20
usr13lxleuser: In terminal run  alsamixer  Make sure everything is turned up, etc. etc.17:20
usr13lxleuser: And nothing muted17:21
vihsiok sir17:21
usr13and run modprobe command again.17:21
lxleuserusr13: It says no such file or directory17:21
younderThis helped me debug the sound problems http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/sound_troubleshooting.htm17:22
usr13lxleuser: alsamixer17:22
younderIt's a bit extensive for interacive storytelling over a chat group over unknown hardware.17:22
usr13!sound | lxleuser17:22
ubottulxleuser: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:22
naccTomyWork: which bug?17:23
TomyWorknacc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/linux-lts-vivid/+bug/107709117:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1077091 in linux-mako (Ubuntu Yakkety) "CVE-2012-4565" [Medium,New]17:23
younderBut my link have a very sound soluttin/debugging based approach.17:23
TomyWorkmissing hci_dev::load_firmware17:23
vihsi<usr13> same error sir17:24
usr13You rebooted?17:24
younderduh17:24
naccTomyWork: which kernel are you using in trusty?17:24
vihsisorry i haven't let me reboot17:24
usr13vihsi: iwconfig |& nc termbin.com 999917:24
TomyWorkthe default one:17:24
usr13vihsi: ... and send resulting URL ...17:24
TomyWork3.13.0-101-generic17:25
youndertrusty tar now that was a while back.17:25
usr13vihsi: Yes, reboot, try again.17:25
vihsihttp://termbin.com/4iql17:25
usr13vihsi: Did you reboot?17:25
vihsi<usr13> it just hangs up while unpackaging generic17:26
vihsirun-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal 4.4.0-47-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-47-generic run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 4.4.0-47-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-47-generic Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-47-generic (x86_64) Consult /var/lib/dkms/focaltech/1.5/build/make.log for more information.17:26
younderFunny thats what I always do when my Pi won't respond. Reboot. sually itworks, If not try again. Shit science, but it seems to keep things running.17:26
naccTomyWork: are you sure you pointed at hte correct bug? that's a CVE one for the ipv4 stack17:26
usr13vihsi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:26
vihsi<usr13> still executing17:26
elcot_hello guys17:27
naccTomyWork: and that particular bug only applies to < 3.4.19 (so not trusty's kernel(s)17:27
vihsi<usr13> okk sir17:27
TomyWorknacc well it does appear here :)17:28
elcot_hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh17:28
naccTomyWork: what does? you hit the CVE??17:28
naccTomyWork: I don't disagree you are hitting something, I disagree it's that bug, I doubt you're using illinois17:28
TomyWorknacc no, wait, did i post the wrong bug?17:28
naccTomyWork: yes, that's what I think :)17:28
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TomyWorki did "grep -R load_firmware /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-101-generic" and it's not showing anything in hci_dev17:29
vihsi<usr13> sir email id vishal129.vk@gmail.com can you please contact17:29
TomyWorklet me find the correct one...17:29
usr13vihsi: ok17:29
TomyWorknacc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/106540017:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1065400 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "Support for loading Broadcom bluetooth firmware" [Medium,Fix released]17:30
TomyWorkprecise, quantal, raring and saucy fixed, but trusty isnt even mentioned17:30
k__hi17:31
k__just got this error17:31
naccTomyWork: it's nominated for it Trusty (in my view), but not yet accepted17:31
k__bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:191: error: undefined reference to 'dlmalloc_real'17:31
k__bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:211: error: undefined reference to 'dlmalloc_real'17:32
k__bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:214: error: undefined reference to 'dlfree'17:32
k__bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:236: error: undefined reference to 'dlfree'17:32
k__bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:240: error: undefined reference to 'dlfree'17:32
nacc!paste | k__17:32
ubottuk__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:32
TomyWorknacc the guy who nominated it said "For Utopic, the upstream patch mentioned in #119 is already merged"17:32
TomyWorkdoes that mean if i upgrad to linux-lts-utopic, it may work?17:32
nicomachusTomyWork: what are you on now?17:32
naccTomyWork: utopic stack is no longer supported17:32
TomyWorknacc or linux-lts-xenial or whatever it current17:33
naccTomyWork: for trusty, you need to be on 14.04.0/1 or 14.04.517:33
naccTomyWork: i think xenial will probably work fine, i'm honestly not sure17:33
naccTomyWork: still digging on my side17:33
utilisateurhello17:33
younderA good time to point to a psste webcite for code and errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17:33
TomyWorkUbuntu 14.04.5 LTS according to /etc/lsb-release17:33
Sonderbladehi17:34
naccTomyWork: so do you have the xenial hwe stack installed and just aren't runing that kernel?17:34
TomyWorknacc i think that's separate from what's in lsb-release17:35
naccTomyWork: i think you're right, though, that it should be in trusty's base kernel via a backport, though17:35
TomyWorknacc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack i guess i'll just run that apt-get line?17:35
naccTomyWork: utopic got it for free, as it was merged in 3.1617:36
naccTomyWork: err, 3.14, i meant17:36
naccTomyWork: i can approve that task for trusty, but someone still needs to do the work :)17:36
TomyWorkwell, i guess the enablement stack will have  that fix anyway, right?17:38
naccTomyWork: the xenial one will, yeah17:40
kosmasHello, I have a quick question. Anyone here?17:45
nacc!ask kosmas17:45
nacc!ask | kosmas17:45
ubottukosmas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:45
OerHeksthat was a quick question :-D17:45
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rcmainakI'm getting an error17:56
rcmainakE: Encountered a section with no Package: header17:56
rcmainakE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packagecloud.io_slacktechnologies_slack_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-amd64_Packages17:56
rcmainakE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.17:56
rcmainakwhat's wrong?17:56
usr13rcmainak: And this is after command __________________?17:56
rcmainaksudo apt-get install phpmyadmin17:57
OerHekspackagecloud.io is an commercial blob17:57
naccrcmainak: also you seem to be trying to use debian on ubuntu, based upon that url?17:58
usr13rcmainak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err17:58
rcmainakdon't know why I somehow manage to mess up my ubuntu after sometime :D17:59
* rcmainak poor soul 18:00
ubuntuhey just selected 'try ubuntu'18:00
ubuntufrom the live USB18:00
ubuntu16.1018:00
ubuntuand my logitech mouse is working18:00
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Guest98944but the cursor is not updating position18:00
usr13That's great ubuntu.  Do you have any questions about it?18:01
Guest98944just stock in the top left corner18:01
Guest98944at first i thought it wasn't moving at all18:01
Guest98944then i right clicked18:01
Guest98944and saw that it in fact was connected18:01
Guest98944just the cursor isn't updating18:01
kostkonGuest98944, did you try connecting it to another port?18:01
OerHeksdirt in your mouse that moves him to the corner18:01
usr13Guest98944: Please do not use Enter key for puncuation.18:01
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Guest98944usr13: i dont understand what you're saying18:02
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kostkon!enter18:02
kostkonno?18:02
usr13*punctuation*18:02
OerHeksdon't use enter as .18:02
usr13Sorry for the spelling error.18:02
Guest98944yes i tried another port18:02
Guest98944i thought ubuntu was pretty stable OS?18:03
Guest98944very odd I cannot use name brand mouse18:03
usr13very odd indeed18:03
Guest98944the mouse software stack loads before the OS does and can be used in BIOS18:03
Guest98944so how did Ubuntu break the mouse guys?18:03
kostkonGuest98944, mouse support in efi is a different story altogether nothing to do with the OS18:04
usr13Guest98944: We do not know how you broke your mouse.  :)18:04
Guest98944usr13: you are not helping anyone18:04
Guest98944usr13: I don't appreciate your attitude18:04
usr13Guest98944: Sorry you do not understand.18:05
rudedog1can anyone tell me how to make my lockscreen match my login screen?18:05
Guest98944usr13: i don't have time to deal with your bullshit, do not respond to me anymore18:05
usr13Guest98944: Sorry you do not have a sense of humor.18:06
oswintopnossup18:06
Guest98944usr13: here you go wasting time again18:06
oswintopnois it18:06
rudedog1my mouse got brock when i installed laptop-mode-tools18:06
kostkonGuest98944, you could reconnect the mouse and check what the logs will say about it18:06
Guest98944usr13: my mouse works perfectly on this system in Windows 10, Linux mint, ect18:06
Guest98944Ubuntu broke the mouse support18:06
Guest98944Not me18:07
Guest98944Your joke was garbage18:07
Guest98944Just like your atttitude18:07
usr13Yours is good though.18:07
OerHeksusr13, coffee?18:07
usr13OerHeks: Yes, thank you.18:07
rudedog1the fix for my mouse is here18:07
rudedog1http://askubuntu.com/questions/760887/installed-laptop-mode-tool-16-04-now-usb-mouse-not-working-after-rebooting-unti18:07
naccGuest98944: please stop using enter as punctuation; if usr13 isn't being helpful, just ignore them.18:07
naccGuest98944: so your mouse is connected, but the cursor doesn't move?18:07
Guest98944nacc right the cursor is stuck in the top left18:08
rudedog1that's how it was yes18:08
Guest98944the mouse is moving18:08
naccrudedog1: you also experienced this problem?18:08
naccGuest98944: sorry? so it works now?18:08
Guest98944https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233986018:09
nacc!who | rudedog118:09
ubotturudedog1: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:09
Guest98944known bug18:09
rudedog1yes after installing laptop-mode-tools18:09
rudedog1that messed up my mouse it's fixed now though18:09
Guest98944nacc: the mouse works, yes - ubuntu HOWEVER is NOT updating the cursor position to what it actually is18:09
Guest98944the cursor is stuck in the top left18:09
naccGuest98944: ah sorry, I misunderstood "the mouse is moving", you meant you are moving the mouse physically, I think18:10
rudedog1I installed acrobat reader hehe18:11
naccGuest98944: is there anything in dmesg regarding your mouse or the corresponding driver? particularly errors18:11
Guest98944nacc: some people say it's the kernel18:11
Guest98944I find that hard to believe18:11
naccGuest98944: does 16.04 work?18:11
Guest98944nacc: according to a user in the thread I linked18:11
rudedog1type this command18:11
Guest98944nacc: I do not have time to do that right now18:11
rudedog1 lsusb18:11
rudedog1should show you deviceid18:12
usr13Guest98944: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:12
naccusr13: why do you think that is the solution?18:12
usr13nacc: Why do you think it is not the solution?18:12
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usr13nacc: Do you know if he has a fully updated system? (Including kernel?)18:13
usr13nacc: Does he know?18:13
Guest98944...18:13
rudedog1for mine I used that command and wrote down the deviceid18:13
Guest98944you want me to upgrade the system in a live session18:14
naccusr13: becuse they are on the live USB, so changing the kernel won't matter18:14
Guest98944... to fix the mouse support...18:14
rudedog1then had to add that to a file18:14
naccusr13: please read the actual issue, and then try to help constructively.18:14
rudedog1reboot and the mouse worked agin18:14
usr13Oh, live CD  Well, that's different.18:14
Guest98944usr13: if you weren't so concerned about talking shit to new users18:14
Guest98944you might actually help someone18:14
naccGuest98944: please don't curse, please just focus on solving the issue18:14
rcmainakusr13, thanks mate. solved the problem...18:14
usr13rcmainak: NP18:15
Guest98944this channel used to be full of really bright people18:15
Guest98944really helpful people18:15
usr13Guest98944: Still is.18:15
rudedog1first off curses always helps!18:15
naccGuest98944: can you pastebin the output of `dmesg`? maybe just what it shows when you unplug and replug the mouse?18:15
Guest98944usr13: obviously you weren't here when I was18:15
naccGuest98944: usr13: both of you stop, focus on support in the channel, please.18:15
Guest98944nacc: I installed pastebinit18:16
Guest98944to show lsusb18:16
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Guest98944but it's kind of hard to copy the link without a mouse xD18:16
ivaylo33hi18:16
naccGuest98944: thanks please provide those links once you have them -- hrm, good point :)18:16
naccGuest98944: should be short enough to type, i hope18:16
wew_ladI have NVIDIA 367.57 installed on Ubuntu 16.04 with a 965M. The performance is horrible. I've read that the performance is much better in 370.28, and I can install it via a PPA. I'm planning to do a clone then try installing it via the "Additional Drivers" method. Should I remove the existing drivers first?18:16
usr13nacc: If you scroll up, people have said "Sorry" to Guest98944 a total of 5 times.  He is the only rude person I see here.18:16
Guest98944http://paste.ubuntu.com/2349166318:17
mrottenkolberHi, I have both "Ubuntu Software Center" and "Ubuntu Software" which one should I uninstall and how do I do that?18:17
naccusr13: move on, please. You are not obligated to help anyone.18:17
rudedog1i like synaptic package installer18:17
ivaylo33whois ivaylo3318:18
mrottenkolberrudedog1: I am mainly interested in figuring out which is there "by accident" (through upgrade)18:18
Guest98944i would use a wired mouse as a workaround18:18
Guest98944but all I have is wireless18:18
Guest98944so I guess this bug is better left unfixed18:19
rudedog1yeah my wireless took a shit18:19
mrottenkolberAlso, are there any recommended resources on how to create a deb package and host it in an ppa?18:19
rudedog1so i used wired usb one18:19
naccmrottenkolber: do you know how to create a source package?18:20
TomyWorknacc after closing a mile of browser and console tabs, i'm now restarting to boot into the new kernel. wish me luck :)18:20
mrottenkolbernacc: what do you mean by source package? I have created plenty of Slackbuilds for instance, so I am generally educated in the topic of packaging, but never have created a deb18:20
TomyWorkit did rebuild the bluetooth module, so that should be covered at least18:20
naccGuest98944: since you are on a live session; it seems relatively easy to just setup 16.04 on a usb and test that; that would be my first suggestion (to verify it's a regression or not). Or you could try disabling the nvidia modules, but i'm not sure how that would work in the live session.18:21
TomyWorknacc ah nope, still the same error :/18:21
naccTomyWork: good luck!18:21
TomyWork/var/lib/dkms/oem-bt-dw1550/0.1/build/btusb.c:1108:6: error: ‘struct hci_dev’ has no member named ‘load_firmware’18:21
ioriaGuest98944, take a look at solaar package or solaar-gnome3  package  for your Unifying Receiver18:21
ioria!info solaar18:22
ubottusolaar (source: solaar): Logitech Unifying Receiver peripherals manager for Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2+dfsg-7 (yakkety), package size 92 kB, installed size 414 kB18:22
naccmrottenkolber: that question sort of implies, no :) ok, so probaby should ask your questions in #ubuntu-devel, then18:22
naccTomyWork: is the dkms-building package something Ubuntu ships?18:22
rudedog1can anyone tell me where my lockscreen theme settings are located18:23
TomyWorknacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491695/ here's the make log18:23
TomyWorkthe linux headers are the ones from the kernel i just installed18:24
naccTomyWork: is oem-bt-dw1550-0.1 an Ubuntu package? or where did you get it?18:24
TomyWorknope, it's from dell18:24
naccTomyWork: their package is probably incompatible with the Ubuntu kernels then18:24
naccTomyWork: what kernels do they support?18:24
TomyWorkhttp://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=53R2118:24
TomyWorkit says it's for precise18:24
naccTomyWork: right, so it will *only* work for precise18:24
mrottenkolberSo regarding my previous question: I assume software-center is deprecated, and "Ubuntu Software" is the new thing?18:25
TomyWorknacc hmm, so any way i can get this fixed? :)18:25
rudedog1my laptop is a lenovo and pretty much everything is working in it18:25
naccmrottenkolber: you want the thing that is 'software' (in dash) and iirc, 'ubuntu software center' is deprecated18:25
rudedog1need to update the graphics to ati though18:25
naccmrottenkolber: gnome software center is the future, iirc18:25
naccTomyWork: you'd have to update their driver to be compatible with the tree you care about, by hand18:25
naccTomyWork: non-trivial :/ or ask dell to update the driver?18:26
TomyWorkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400 oh thanks for adding it :)18:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1065400 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "Support for loading Broadcom bluetooth firmware" [Undecided,New]18:26
mrottenkolbernacc: yeah, good riddance that thing was unresponsive...18:26
usr13mrottenkolber: Cut to the chase:  apt-cache, apt-get etc. etc.18:27
naccTomyWork: but i don't think it will actually help your case, anyways -- as your issue is your dkms driver source is not buildable with the current kernel(s). A good driver source would do a version check and just error out if it's known not to work. I think that driver is bitrotted (and I see no further release from Dell?)18:27
TomyWorkthere's one for an old centos18:28
TomyWorkbut other than that18:28
naccTomyWork: i would suggest contacting them to see if there are any updates, I've found that for active Dell developers, sometimes they actually have a github project where they take PRs and things18:28
mrottenkolberusr13: I thought just 'apt' was the new thing? Anyways, if I want to use the command line I use Slackware, and not this debian trash ;P18:28
rudedog1can anyone point me to a site that teaches you how to make your own themes18:28
usr13mrottenkolber: They both work.18:29
naccTomyWork: in theory, what is that driver supposed to do? (sorry, missing context)18:29
TomyWorkbluetooth18:29
naccTomyWork: maybe you don't atually need it with xenial stack?18:29
TomyWorkoh good point, i'll try but i dont think it will work18:30
TomyWorknacc http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/precision-m4800-workstation/drivers18:30
kostkonTomyWork, what made you go hunting for a driver?18:30
TomyWorkit lists redhat 6.4 in addition to a bunch of windowses and ubuntu 12.0418:30
TomyWorkkostkon well it never worked18:30
kostkonTomyWork, it's an unusual course of action in the linux world18:30
naccTomyWork: yeah, i think dell's internal site is sort of garbage, as they support much newer ubuntu for other devices18:31
naccTomyWork: it's like half the company (true of many) don't want to admit ubuntu exists :)18:31
multifractalI have this unusual problem on 16.04. The internet connection sliently seems to drop out, intermittently. Chrome will just spin the loading wheel and display a DNS error page after a certain length of time. Also happens in firefox. No internet problems with any other (Mac) laptops in the household.18:31
multifractalHow can I begin diagnosing this?18:31
naccTomyWork: 'never worked' in that it errored out? or your bluetooth device was not seen? or?18:32
TomyWorkno sign of it working18:32
naccTomyWork: anyting in dmesg relevant to bluetooth?18:32
TomyWorkno bluetooth icon, bluedevil-wizard didnt show anything18:32
naccTomyWork: i assume you have installed the blueman stuff18:32
TomyWorkdmesg says firmware missing18:32
naccTomyWork: can you pastebin the exact output?18:32
TomyWork1 sec18:32
OerHeksTomyWork, use ' rfkill list all '  to see if it is blocked18:33
multifractalThe whole WIFI experience is a little strange/buggy. e.g. the wifi icon has no signal bars at all, and when I click it I can't see my SSID in the drop-down menu.18:33
TomyWork[136845.835753] Bluetooth: can't load firmware, may not work correctly18:33
TomyWork        Soft blocked: no        Hard blocked: no18:33
naccTomyWork: so that seems like you may have just gone down the wrong direction; not being able to load firmware (because say it can't find it), means the driver *is* working on some level18:33
naccTomyWork: it just can't find thefirmware it needs :)18:34
TomyWorknacc oh18:34
naccTomyWork: does it print what the firmware it is looking for?18:34
naccbad sentence, but hopefully you get what i mean :)18:34
TomyWorkwell let me reboot, because i sure wont get it to work with an updated but not loaded kernel :)18:34
naccheh18:34
naccTomyWork: right18:34
TomyWork[136845.835752] usb 2-1.5: firmware: fw-413c_8143.hcd will not be loaded18:35
TomyWorkthat's 1 tick before the line i pasted before18:35
naccinterstingt18:35
TomyWorkwait there's more18:35
TomyWorkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23491738/18:35
lxleuserhi, can anyone help me in this? I installed lxle today. But there is no audio. What can I do now?18:36
naccTomyWork: yeah that message (in the current kernel at least) gets printed if the user helper for loading firmware failed18:36
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naccTomyWork: does fw-413c_8143.hcd exist (probably under /lib/firmware) anywhere on your system?18:36
pino56cioa18:37
pino56list!18:37
ducasselxleuser: lxle is not ubuntu, so not supported here.18:37
ChetManlyso UFW black bluetooth?18:37
ChetManlyblocks*18:37
usr13!sound | lxleuser18:37
ubottulxleuser: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.18:37
TomyWorkUFW?18:37
multifractalHas anyone experienced problems similar to this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2340739 I THINK that's the problem I have...18:37
lxleuserIt is based on lubuntu, i guess.18:37
TomyWorkubuntu for windows? :)18:37
ChetManly!ufw18:37
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:37
OerHeksconvert the windows firmware with this tool https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400/comments/1118:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1065400 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "Support for loading Broadcom bluetooth firmware" [Undecided,New]18:38
usr13TomyWork: http://askubuntu.com/questions/614319/ubuntu-15-04-bluetooth-no-adapters-found-dell-precision-m480018:38
naccOerHeks: yeah i'm thinking that's all that's missing18:38
ducasselxleuser: yes, 'based on'. not 'the same as'.18:38
kostkonTomyWork, also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1356076/comments/618:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1356076 in linux (Ubuntu) "firmware: fw-04ca_2007.hcd will not be loaded" [Medium,Confirmed]18:38
TomyWorkusr13 the solution is downloading a bunch of stuff from dropbox... nope18:38
naccTomyWork: it may be something like this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_(9343)#Bluetooth18:38
TomyWorknacc Sorry, this page was recently deleted (within the last 24 hours). The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.18:39
kostkonTomyWork, make sure you have removed the package from dell before attempting anything new18:39
naccTomyWork: the archlinux page? i'm looking at it right now18:39
TomyWorkwat18:39
TomyWorkcan you pastebin it? :D18:39
naccTomyWork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491756/18:40
kostkonTomyWork, if it somehow got installed that is18:40
ChetManlynoone knows18:40
naccTomyWork: right, so first thing is, remove that oem package18:40
naccTomyWork: as it just won't work anymore and will be noisy on every headers install as it will fail :/18:40
TomyWorkremoved18:41
naccTomyWork: and fwiw, the link i pasted, won't be exactly the driver you need, but hte idea should be the same18:41
naccOerHeks: --^ agreed?18:41
OerHeksnacc, yes, and use the firmware from the dell site itself18:41
naccOerHeks: yep, that's where i'd get the .cab file from, if possible18:41
Guest98944ioria: just got solaar installed18:42
Guest98944it loads to a blank program18:42
Guest98944says 'select a device' and there is nothing18:42
Guest98944lol18:42
Guest98944nice try though18:42
TomyWorkOerHeks ok, would the oem package build the hcd if it worked?18:42
TomyWorkor would that work differently?18:42
TomyWorki'm just trying to save download time and salvage the ubuntu 12.04 driver package that i already have :)18:43
usr13TomyWork: did you look to see what is in /lib/firmware/brcm/?18:43
TomyWorka bunch of stuff18:45
TomyWorki'm not exactly sure which device i have18:45
usr1320702?18:45
TomyWorki'll look through all those .debs in the driver package for a 04ca_2007 hcd18:45
TomyWorknone found :/18:46
usr13!enter18:46
usr13TomyWork: So, looks like the firmware has yet to be downloaded18:47
TomyWork-rw-r--r-- root/root     34474 2013-04-02 07:36 ./lib/firmware/fw-413c_8143.hcd <-- there's just this one18:47
TomyWorkDescription: Firmware for Broadcom dw1550 bluetooth device 413c:814318:48
usr13TomyWork: http://askubuntu.com/questions/767046/bluetooth-broadcom-bcm20702-does-not-load-firmware-driver-issue-14-0418:48
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usr13TomyWork: Well, maybe fw-413c_8143.hcd is it.  I dono18:48
pavlushkais there any pdf reader with multitab feature?18:48
usr13acroread has multitab feature18:49
devsysHi All, I have a ubuntu 16.04 server, how do I reset the connections to the server? I just added a DROP statement to my iptables INPUT chain, but I still see the connections persisting.18:50
pavlushkathanks usr13 :)18:50
devsysI tried conntrack -F but nothing18:50
TomyWorkusr13 it says "[175802.452788] Bluetooth: firmware loaded" now, so maybe that was it...18:50
devsysconntrack -L shows no connections (definitely not the case)18:50
usr13pavlushka: So does qpdfview18:50
TomyWorkafter a modprobe -r btusb && modprobe btusb18:50
TomyWorkhmm but maybe it always says that18:50
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usr13pavlushka: I'm using qpdfview now.  It's pretty nice.  I think I like it better than acroread.  It appears to be more light-weight18:51
usr13pavlushka: And OpenSource18:51
pavlushkausr13: wow, I think that's what I need, thanks again :)18:52
TomyWorka "service bluetooth restart" later, an error message i had previously with "bluedeveil-wizard" is gone. maybe this works after all :)18:52
usr13pavlushka: NP18:52
usr13TomyWork: Cool....18:52
praisethemoonpavlushka, XDDDDDDDDDD18:52
praisethemoonGUESS WHOS BACK18:52
TomyWorkhow can i tell which devices btusb claimed?18:53
usr13TomyWork: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/bt-device.1.html18:53
TomyWorkhmm, that's bluez18:54
TomyWorki think kubuntu is using something else, at least it's not installed18:54
usr13O18:54
naccTomyWork: `bluetoothctl` iirc, will show you which bluetooth devices are detected?18:54
TomyWorknope18:55
TomyWorki think i'll try a reboot18:55
TomyWorkmy system is still in limbo after the kernel update :)18:55
sktrHi, if i'm trying to dual-boot ubuntu, will it erase my Windows OS?18:59
usr13sktr: No, but only if you are careful to  leave the MS Windows Partition(s) alone.18:59
usr13sktr: You just have to pay attention during the install process.19:00
sktrokay, is there anything in particular i should try and look careful for?19:00
usr13sktr: Make sure you have free space to use.19:00
sktrhow much do i need? i have about 600GB19:01
usr13sktr: If you do not have an expendable partition, you may need to make some arrangements for it.  Yes 600G is more than enough.19:01
sktrOkay, thanks19:02
usr13sktr: If you have 600GB unpartitioned free space, you are good to go.19:02
TomyWorkok so my system still works, but bluetooth still doesn't. what's improved is that rfkill list all now lists "4: dell-bluetooth: Bluetooth". It's still neither soft nor hard blocked19:02
kostkonsktr, before going ahead with it backup your most important data if you can, just to be on the safe side19:02
Broken_Bellsif i wanna learn lua, what package should i install to get the interpreter?19:03
usr13sktr: If not, MS Windows has a non-destructive partition manager now-days and you should use it.19:03
usr13sktr: As Broken_Bells points out, *always* back up your important data.19:03
sktrusr13: ok thanks. just asking, how much should i allocate for ubuntu?19:03
sktri'll be using it mainly for dev19:03
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TomyWorkon the negative side, bluedevil-wizard shows "QObject::connect: Cannot connect (null)::deviceFound(QVariantMap) to DiscoverPage::deviceFound(QVariantMap)" again. But now that I take a closer look at it, it looks more like a buggy wizard to me19:04
usr13sktr: It all depends on what you want to do.  100G would be enough, 600G is more than enough19:04
afsafasfshi. do i need bad-block check my swap partition?19:04
usr13sktr: The initial install will be <50G19:05
usr13afsafasfs: I normally don't bother19:05
sktrusr13: ok good, i only have one hard-drive so i'm trying to preserve as much memory as i can19:05
afsafasfs<usr13> Why?19:05
usr13I dono, I just don't19:06
usr13afsafasfs: But it's a good idea to do it.19:06
usr13afsafasfs: for 6 or 8G it won't take long, so go for it.19:07
afsafasfs<usr13> how can i do it?19:07
naccTomyWork: i've never used bluedevil, sorry19:07
TomyWork# bt-device -l  # org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter: No such adapter19:07
bluenailstrying to get conky working in yackity yak, and I am watting to do battery monitoring. However /proc/acpi/battery doesn't exist. I have installed acpi and just typing acpi at the command line gives me the battery status. (I installed from minimal iso, so there might be an acpi component I am missing?)19:08
TomyWorka page i'm reading suggests bluetoothctl, but that doesnt seem to be found by apt-file search19:08
naccTomyWork: it comes from bluez19:09
naccTomyWork: iirc19:09
TomyWorkit seems i have bluez installed19:09
usr13afsafasfs: mkswap -c19:09
naccbluenails: iirc, /proc/acpi/battery is now in sysfs19:09
TomyWorkthe bluetooth service is from it. bluedevil might just be a frontend19:09
naccTomyWork: could be, yeah19:09
bluenailsnacc: any idea how to get conky to look there? or do I need to make a symlink?19:10
afsafasfs<usr13> ) thanks for not answer in style "man mkswap, m****er!" XD19:10
TomyWorkbt-device is from bluez-tools, which i just installed and it says "org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter: No such adapter". I guess that means i still have a firmware problem19:10
kostkonbluenails, you could edit the conky script responsible for that although i cannot help you on the specifics19:11
naccbluenails: i don't think a symlink is appropriate, as it will be lost on every boot19:11
naccbluenails: i think it's a conky bug, if i had to guess19:11
bluenailsnacc hmm I think most of conky is C not scripts :(19:11
usr13afsafasfs: Yea, never much cared for the RTFM answers either.19:11
naccbluenails: i believe that was for kostkon ?19:11
praisethemoonhello everyone.19:12
bluenailsnacc: koston: oops yes19:12
bluenailskoston: most of conky is C not scripts, and the conky config doesn19:12
bluenailskostton: seem to allow to specify path for BAT019:12
naccTomyWork: i think you want `bt-adapter -l`19:12
naccTomyWork: `bt-device` is for connected bluetooth devices, iiuc19:13
TomyWorkNo adapters found19:13
kostkonbluenails, afaik conky functionality can be extended with scripts so that could be the case for the battery info as well19:13
naccTomyWork: ok, that is a "better" (more accurate) message19:13
kostkonbluenails, in other words the battery info is provided by a conky script19:13
\9i just got a scary looking "usb usb2-port1: unable to enumerate USB device" message in dmesg that showed up during live session boot, but the system still booted fine and i can use e.g. this irc over ssh as well as firefox19:13
bluenailskostkon: yeah, I could pretty much reimpliment the battery functionality with scripts, but that is a much bigger overhead, and I am on a tiny system.19:13
\9should i be concerned_19:14
\9?19:14
bluenailskostkon: do you know where these scripts are, because I was pretty sure pretty much everything in the man page was C not scripts.19:14
naccTomyWork: can you pastebin `lsusb -vvv` ?19:14
naccTomyWork: or if you want to look yourself, you should see an entry there for a Bluetooth protocol device19:14
TomyWorknacc The device corresponding to the firmware i installed earlier is: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 413c:8143 Dell Computer Corp.19:15
TomyWorklsusb -t doesnt list it19:15
TomyWorki'll pastebin lsusb -vvv19:15
TomyWorkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23491881/ lsusb -vvv19:15
afsafasfs<usr13> man says, that i need do mkswap -c before creating swap. do i need check newly founded (with Gparted) swap partition?19:16
dalputif I want to find & replace text with bash with sed, how can I replace 1 out of 2 duplicate words ? let's say there is AA AA BB BB and I want to make it AA CC BB BB?19:16
bluenailsdang it gtg work19:16
naccTomyWork: hrm, so it's not a USB device? I thought you were looking at btusb? can you pastebin `dmesg` for me?19:17
usr13afsafasfs: Yes,  mkswap -c /dev/sdaX  (mkswap creates the fs for swap).19:17
TomyWorknacc i do think it's a usb device, yes19:18
EriC^^dalput: sed 's/AA AA/AA/g'19:18
TomyWorkinternally connected though19:18
usr13afsafasfs: Gparted may have some utility for checking for bad blocks as well.  I don't know for sure ....19:18
naccTomyWork: if it's a USB device, lsusb would show it :/ regardless of its connectivity19:18
naccTomyWork: oh it's there19:18
TomyWorkctrl-f 814319:18
naccTomyWork: it's not reporting itself as a bluetooth device19:19
usr13afsafasfs: But yea, you have to create the partition first.19:19
TomyWorkgoogle says "A Bcm20702a0 is a bluetooth device.", so i think i'm on the right track19:19
dalputEriC^^: that removes 'aa aa' and makes it 'aa', I want to replace only the SECOND aa and leave everything intact. or should I look for an other command instead of sed ?19:19
dalputEriC^^: so 'aa aa bb bb' becomes 'aa cc bb bb'19:19
TomyWorknacc https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/03/msg00243.html this seems related19:20
EriC^^dalput: you're not getting this are you :P19:20
CrazyJoeyHello?19:20
EriC^^dalput: sed 's/AA AA/AA CC/g'19:20
naccTomyWork: which kernel are you on now?19:21
usr13afsafasfs: Also, make sure the swap partition is not in use when you mkswap it.19:21
bivoEriC^^ Interesting development from yesterday, it seems that the files aren't deleted, but are just not visible, unsure how to access them though19:21
TomyWorkLinux mymachine 4.4.0-47-generic #68~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:42:11 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux19:21
CrazyJoeyI have a question....19:21
usr13bivo: ls -a19:21
TomyWorkthat's from the enablement stack19:21
CrazyJoey....is it possible for MDADM to handle more than one RAID array?19:21
afsafasfs<usr13> i created, it already established as swap, but Gparted have gray entry for "check". So will i need recreate it with like mkswap -c /dev/sdaX ?19:21
naccTomyWork: that patch was applied to 3.2, so it's in allt he kernels you've tested (afaict)19:22
EriC^^bivo: can you remind me of the problem?19:22
dalputEriC^^: yes, that's an option. but is there an option to let's browse a file and replace SOME instances, not all ? imagine if there were 50 of those, and I needed to only replace the 5 and the 15th19:22
dalputEriC^^: I swear I saw this somewhere, now I'm lost19:22
naccTomyWork: if it wasn't, it wouldn't even see your device19:22
naccTomyWork: oh wait, let me check one thing19:22
TomyWorkok19:22
EriC^^dalput: try #bash they probably know19:22
afsafasfs<usr13> i have no way to check existent swap?19:22
EriC^^or ##linux19:22
dalputEriC^^: just found it, thanks19:22
bivoEriC^^ files on an NFTS volume that where seemingly auto deleted on an accidental drop onto the trash can.19:22
dalputthe channel that is19:22
EriC^^bivo: aha, right19:23
usr13afsafasfs: Well, I don't know what it would do, maybe nothing if it's not being used.19:23
CrazyJoeyhi?19:23
bivoEriC^^ data recovery efforts we tried yesterday only showed a .trashes file having been deleted19:23
usr13afsafasfs: free19:23
EriC^^bivo: so what makes you think they aren't deleted? the disk usage?19:23
usr13afsafasfs: (look and see)19:23
naccTomyWork: can you pastebin the output of `usb-devices` ?19:24
TomyWorkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23491929/19:24
usr13afsafasfs: And you can temporarily turn it off, (if it's not in use).19:24
TomyWorki get 2 errors on stderr in addition to that: /usr/bin/usb-devices: line 79: printf: c: invalid number and /usr/bin/usb-devices: line 79: printf: d: invalid number19:24
naccTomyWork: ah ha, you can see there that the 413c device has no 'driver'19:25
nacchrm19:25
naccTomyWork: did you pastebin dmesg?19:25
bivoEriC^^ volume size, that Caja says that the delete was undone, as well as if I try to unmount the drive it asks if I want to empty the trash19:25
TomyWorkis "driver" something else than "firmware"?19:25
usr13afsafasfs: swapoff /dev/sdX19:25
afsafasfs<usr13> wait... )19:25
EriC^^bivo: try sudo lsof | grep <some filename>19:25
TomyWorknacc that's a ton of text. do i need to anonymize that?19:25
EriC^^bivo: maybe they're still open19:25
usr13afsafasfs: Why are you wanting to search for bad blocks on your swap partition?  Are you having some problem?19:26
EriC^^bivo: aha and does ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files show them?19:26
afsafasfs<usr13> just for lulz, i have old machine.19:26
TomyWorknacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491933/ oh well here it is :)19:27
naccTomyWork: probably not, I guess it depends on if you think there's anything sensitive; ususally there is not. If you are really worried, I can have you grep, i'm just worried we'll miss something then19:27
usr13afsafasfs: And after you are done with mkswap, you can turn it back on again.  swapon /dev/sdx19:27
naccTomyWork: ok, try this: `modprobe btusb`19:27
TomyWorkoh, that wasnt loaded?19:27
TomyWork(i checked lsmod first)19:28
usr13lsmod |grep usb19:28
afsafasfs<usr13> yes. it is bad: ( warning: wiping old swap signature.)?19:29
TomyWorknacc btusb is loaded now (it wasnt before the modprobe). bt-adapter -l still says no adapters found19:29
usr13afsafasfs: Well then, maybe you need to move the swap partition to another location.  Or just not use it.  Don't use swap at all, or use a swap file?19:30
TomyWorkdoes bt-adapter go via the bluetooth service? is it worth restarting that?19:30
minthello19:30
TomyWorkstill not working, anyway :/19:30
usr13afsafasfs: Wait, if it just says "wiping old swap signature", I'm not so sure that it's really bad.19:30
TomyWorkbtw, i really only installed firmware. do i need a driver in addition to that?19:31
TomyWorki have no idea how this works, really :)19:31
usr13afsafasfs: "wiping old swap signature" may be normal.19:31
afsafasfs0 bad pages mkswap: /dev/sda2: warning: wiping old swap signature. Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 12.2 GiB (13113487360 bytes) no label, UUID=3dc0d01b-6f95-463b-a75f-4046960e954d ?19:31
mintcan anyone help me setting a shamba share? I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!19:31
ducasseafsafasfs: that's normal19:31
mintbut smbclient reports: mint@mint ~ $ smbclient -L //192.168.1.128/storage -U metalliko19:32
mintWARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated19:32
mintEnter metalliko's password:19:32
mintConnection to 192.168.1.128 failed (Error NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT)19:32
kostkonmint, are you on mint?19:32
ducasse!mint | mint19:32
ubottumint: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:32
bivoEriC^^ Found it! The files are all still here in '/media/med/2 tb/.Trash-1000/files/Backup'19:32
naccTomyWork: can you paste dmesg again?19:32
usr13mint: So you are sharing a directory with a MS Windows PC on your network?19:32
mintno 2 mint machines19:33
TomyWorknacc, there is only one extra line: [ 1749.417408] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb19:33
usr13mint: Don't paste multi lines here, use a pastebin.19:33
usr13mint: So why not just use nfs?19:33
mintok sorry usr1319:33
usr13!nfs | mint19:33
ubottumint: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.19:33
mintnfs?19:33
mintok i will try that19:34
usr13mint: If you are not intending to share with a MS Windows PC, I would suggest just using nfs.19:34
TomyWorkmint  if it's just ad-hoc, sshfs can work for you, too19:34
usr13mint: Good luck. (Happy file sharing :)19:34
afsafasfs<usr13> <ducasse> D'OH! Thanks, goodbye!19:35
naccTomyWork: do you see in the `usb-devices` output, any change?19:35
TomyWorkmint, it's easier to set up if you already have working ssh/scp, imo19:35
EriC^^bivo: awesome!19:35
minti already tryed sshfs without luck19:35
EriC^^bivo: how did you find it, i'm curious19:35
minti will rty nfs19:35
usr13afsafasfs: Ok, haveagoodone.19:35
mint*try19:35
TomyWorknacc uh 1 sec, i need to diff :)19:35
EriC^^bivo: ah, right19:35
EriC^^bivo: i forgot, if it's not on the root partition, it gets moved to a dir in the filesystem with the user's uid, .Trash-uid19:36
TomyWorknacc no changes19:36
EriC^^bivo: well that's that, great :D19:37
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TomyWorknacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491990/ that's what's in the driver package. i only installed "debs/bt-dw1550-firmware_0.1_all.deb" from that. do i need more than that maybe?19:40
bivoEriC^^ I remembered that the trash files where kept locally on each drive,19:40
bivoEriC^^ The things you remember when you've had a bit of time to sleep on them19:41
EriC^^bivo: yeah :D19:42
TomyWorknacc that package gave me a "/lib/firmware/fw-413c_8143.hcd", which does look like it belongs to the usb device id 413c:814319:42
bivoEriC^^ Because I was actually considering attempting to recover the files from Windows with Recuvue, but I was unsure if that would work if there was a difference between how Linux and Windows deletes files, as I've never attempted that before.19:43
mintna19:44
mintnfs also fails19:44
EriC^^bivo: always great to have a crisis averted19:44
TomyWorkmint  can you ping?19:44
mintsame as smb an sshfs19:44
mintyes19:44
TomyWorkjust thought i'd ask :)19:44
EriC^^bivo: data recovery can be a b.....19:44
TomyWorkmint can you ssh?19:44
naccTomyWork: ah ah! i figured out the underlying issue ... i don't think the mainline btusb driver in use in xenial has the device id for your adapter19:45
naccTomyWork: let me see if mainline does19:45
mintI don't know how to ssh TomyWork19:45
TomyWorkmint open a terminal and type "ssh remoteuser@remotemachine"19:45
naccTomyWork: nope, it does not either19:46
mintok19:46
bivoEriC^^ yeah, this is the first time I've had to do it on Linux, I've done so on Mac and Windows, more terminal-fu is required I guess.19:46
TomyWorknacc what do you mean doesnt have the device id. can i force it to adopt it anyway?19:46
wruserhello19:47
mintTomyWork: na, ssh hangs there without giving any output19:47
naccTomyWork: so the way devices work in the kernel is that the vendor and product are matched to konw if they are supported19:47
mintjust like nfs19:47
mintmount.nfs: Connection timed out19:47
mintsame as sshfs and smb19:48
TomyWorkmint can you type "ssh -v remoteuser@remotemachine" instead19:48
naccTomyWork: in your case, 413c is the vendor (dell & broadcom, i hitnk) but the product (8143) is not listed int he kernels' sources19:48
TomyWorkmint oh ok that's pretty clear already19:48
naccTomyWork: so the btusb driver doesn't know your device is one it should support (because officially it doesn't)19:48
TomyWorknacc can i override that list in the sources via config?19:48
naccTomyWork: no, you need to build a new kernel, i think ... although maybe you can trick udev19:49
naccTomyWork: but even then, no, the driver will still fail to match19:49
minti'm missing something obvious?19:49
TomyWorkmint firewall, possibly19:49
TomyWorkor misconfigured interfaces19:49
TomyWorkare you using dhcp on both?19:49
mintmint's firefall or router's?19:50
TomyWorkare you on a "surf and mail only" guest wifi?19:50
mintdhcp19:50
mintnop19:50
TomyWorkno wifi at all?19:50
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mintmy home wifi19:50
TomyWorkcan you switch to a cable?19:50
mintwifi works well i can ping the other machine19:50
TomyWorknacc drat... so that's why that package contains kernel packages :)19:50
naccTomyWork: yeah, hav eyou looked at: 138249019:51
naccTomyWork: err, LP: #138249019:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1382490 in linux (Ubuntu) "Broadcom Bluetooth [413c:8143] does not work at all" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138249019:51
TomyWorkmint ping is icmp, ssh is tcp19:51
mintno TomyWork this laptot doesn't have rj4519:51
naccTomyWork: that's specific to your device, with an advice by the vendor of how to workaround the lack of support19:51
EriC^^bivo: yeah, linux's power is in the cli19:51
naccTomyWork: both firmware and driver, i think19:51
mintso is a problem with the network, i was thinking that19:51
mintany ideas?19:52
MasterOfAllEvilWhat's the issue?19:52
TomyWorknacc chih is the vendor?19:53
EriC^^bivo: i've not used mac yet, maybe some day in the future19:53
mintcant create a share between 2 mint machines MasterOfAllEvil19:54
mintalready tryed smb sshfs and nfs19:54
mintwith no luck19:54
TempAcc499http://mibpaste.com/hy9lHo would this be an okay SSD to run Ubuntu on? It's a small 20GB drive. I most likely want to run Xubuntu.19:54
TomyWorknacc well that linked thread suggests creating a .hcd with hex2hcd and reloading btusb. i have a .hcd and reloaded btusb19:54
naccTomyWork: works for them, yes19:54
nicomachusI am getting some really, really odd behavior from Google Chrome. It opens up and everything in the window is just completely scrambled. Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23492040/19:55
bivoEriC^^ eh, I used Macs where there was a point to using them, in the pre Intel days, now they are fast on their way to being an overpriced iOS device. If you want to try out OS X just try it in a VM or build an OSx86 box.19:55
TomyWorkwell i can try a newer driver... a colleague with the same laptop sits across the room :)19:55
ducassemint: look at the logs for what the problem is. other than that: https://linuxmint.com/contactus.php19:55
EriC^^bivo: isn't osx not vm compatible?19:56
naccTomyWork: it's possible that the firmware is searched for in /lib/firmware/brcm ?19:56
naccTomyWork: you could try copying the firmware file there and `modprobe -r btusb; modprobe btusb`19:56
EriC^^bivo: i was under the impression you they can't be run in a vm19:56
OerHeksTempAcc499, any ssd will do19:57
nicomachusThe weird thing is, I can't even get a screenshot of it. It just shows my background image.19:57
EriC^^bivo: i will look into it, thanks!19:57
TempAcc499Okay, I am wanting to switch to Linux this laptop is getting a bit sluggish running on W7. OerHeks19:57
OerHeksTempAcc499, don't compare read/.write times, the 0 sec access time is a breeze itself19:57
iorianicomachus, vm ?19:57
nicomachusioria: yes.19:57
iorianicomachus, https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7740419:57
TomyWorknacc nope, still no bt-adapter -l output19:58
bivoEriC^^ certain versions are, server license, can be found if you you know where to look. There is also likely a hack to make it work, like there was to make newer PPC versions compatible with unsupported models with hacked drivers and system files19:58
TomyWorkwell, except "No adapters found"19:58
naccTomyWork: any change in dmesg?19:58
mrchairmanIf I delete a hardlink, will it delete the original file the link is pointing too?19:58
TomyWork[ 3528.219647] usbcore: deregistering interface driver btusb [ 3528.286197] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb19:58
nicomachusioria: huh. that's interesting.19:58
iorianicomachus,  good luck19:58
OerHeksmrchairman, normally not.19:58
EriC^^bivo: aha, i see19:59
TempAcc499Thanks for the reply. OerHeks19:59
mrchairmanThanks OerHeks19:59
nicomachusioria: I can't shut down the VM right now to disable 3D, but I'll give that a shot. I'm in 16.10, not 16.04, but I assume the issue is the same.19:59
TheMariusTempAcc499, try linux mint or ubuntu then :) look at the desktop you like and install19:59
iorianicomachus,  probably19:59
TomyWorkmint does iptables -L list anything but headers on either machine?19:59
OerHeksTheMarius, please don't suggest mint20:00
TheMariuswhy not20:00
mintwhy no?20:00
TomyWorkTheMarius because this is #ubuntu :)20:00
mint*not20:00
OerHeksmint is not suppported here .. and slower than ubuntu20:00
TomyWork#ubuntu can't suggest mint without also supporting mint20:00
TempAcc499I was thinking either Lubuntu or Xubuntu something light because I only use this laptop for browsing and streaming things from my server.20:00
TheNH813Having problems with two things. I'l start with the easier one. My PS/2 adaptor works for a few seconds and quits.20:00
TempAcc499I'd probably only need chromium/firefox and mpv player honestly for the time being.20:00
TheMariusmint ran with less bugs on my puter.. which is why i run it.. however i see it as a dialect of ubuntu20:01
naccTheMarius: it's a fork20:01
TheNH813It could bad a bad cable on the adaptor, but it could also be a drivers issue. Prior to current versions of Linux, it only worked with keyboards, although it's also supposed to work with mice.20:01
OerHeksTheMarius, and mint has its own issues20:01
TomyWorkTheMarius try getting by on high german in switzerland :)20:01
naccTomyWork: ok, so i updated LP: #1382490, let's see what they say20:01
TheMariusnacc: i know... its allmost the same20:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1382490 in linux (Ubuntu) "Broadcom Bluetooth [413c:8143] does not work at all" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138249020:01
TheNH813Any suggestions where to start troubleshooting?20:01
naccTheMarius: the differences are so key and you're glossing over all of them.20:02
TheMariussigh20:02
Bashing-om!minimal | TempAcc499 If you are handy . FAST and very light :20:02
ubottuTempAcc499 If you are handy . FAST and very light :: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:02
TomyWorknacc ok suppose i'm not afraid of rebuilding the btusb module from source, can i just add 8143 to that list and recompile the module?20:03
TempAcc499I'll look into that thanks.20:03
naccTomyWork: right, that's what i'd try -- and i think it should go into the latter section, which refers specifically to dell laptops20:03
TempAcc499This laptop isn't very old but trying to speed it up by running Linux.20:03
TomyWorknacc uh, would i need to rebuild the entire kernel?20:03
naccTomyWork: so you could do that, modprobe  -r btusb and `insmod btusb.ko`, but you might get mismatches; so you have to build specific to the same kernel20:03
naccTomyWork: are you comfortable trying a test kernel if i build it for you? I won't be able to guarantee it works or anything, but20:04
naccTomyWork: it would be a package then, that you can unisntall20:04
ioriaTempAcc499, you'll need a gui ?20:04
naccTomyWork: you might be able to grab the kernel soruce package, build it and just insmod, like i said, if you know how20:04
TomyWorkdepends. the building here stopped heating 4 minutes ago, so i'll have to leave soon or freeze to death :D20:04
naccTomyWork: i'd put it in a ppa, you can use it whenver you want20:05
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TomyWorkcool20:05
TempAcc499I'm hoping to use either Lubuntu or Xubuntu. ioria20:05
naccTomyWork: give me a few secs20:05
Bashing-omTempAcc499: Many times .. the best menas of speeding up a system is give it more ram to work with .. (u)buntu wants at least 2 Gigs . The other flavors will get by on less .. but getting by is not flying .20:05
naccTomyWork: https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/lp1382490 will be where i'll upload the package to20:06
nicomachusTempAcc499: A lot of laptops will allow you to upgrade RAM. And that can go a long way. Might look into that.20:06
TempAcc499I'm currently at 4GBs RAM and don't want to invest anymore in the laptop. I think the processor is holding it back more than anything.20:06
nicomachusTempAcc499: what's the CPU model?20:06
TempAcc499It has an I3 2367M 1.4GHz20:06
nicomachusSounds like a Dell Inspiron20:07
TempAcc499And I couldn't install windows currently on the rather small SSD. So when I switch to Ubuntu the OS will go onto the SSD.20:07
ducasseTempAcc499: i have a first-gen i3 laptop, been fine since i put an ssd in it.20:07
TomyWorknacc ok i added it20:07
TempAcc499It's an Acer laptop not anything special.20:07
Bashing-omTempAcc499: That processor and 4 Gigs if ram will support what ever you care to install .20:07
naccTomyWork: it won't have anything in it for now, will ping when i upload20:07
TomyWorkthanks20:07
naccTomyWork: it'll take some time to build20:07
TempAcc499I only use it to browse and stream/download from my server.20:07
TomyWorkhow long, usually20:07
draxdeveloperhello, i have just installed Ubuntu and i trying to install wine. But i can't20:07
ioriaTempAcc499, you'll be good with lubuntu ... even with Ubuntu20:07
naccTomyWork: probably a few hours, at least, so feel free to go get warm at home :)20:08
draxdeveloperseems to have a broken package20:08
TomyWorkoh :D20:08
draxdeveloperbut this is a fresh install20:08
ioriaTempAcc499,  but if you need resources, Lubuntu is the right choice20:08
TomyWorki guess i'll come back tomorrow then :)20:08
naccdraxdeveloper: please pastebin the exact command used and output20:08
naccTomyWork: i'll be here20:08
TomyWorkthanks in advance :)20:08
draxdeveloperhum... I have to change my language to do this. Wait a sec.20:08
younderdo what?20:09
Bashing-omTempAcc499: Acer on linux has it's issues ( read vendor lockin) . see: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 <- oldfred : Ubuntu on Acer Aspire new Laptop .20:09
draxdevelopermy ubuntu is in pt-br. So you will not understand20:09
TempAcc499Do you think it's only for the newer models? Bashing-om20:10
TempAcc499Mine is an older aspire model20:10
Bashing-omTempAcc499: Well . mostly .. but Acer has a long history .20:10
TomyWorknacc what kernel version are you basing on?20:10
naccTomyWork: 4.4.0-49.70 (which is what is in trusty-proposed) -- would you rather i go with what is in trusty-updates ?20:12
Bashing-omTempAcc499: Maybe look at : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974392 <-Dual booting UEFI equipped notebook - Acer Aspire 556020:12
TempAcc499I'll do some more reading - mine is the Aspire S3-391.20:12
TempAcc499I could use the live CD to test it out first before formating/installing right?20:13
TheMariusaaaanyway unity 8 looks good20:13
srulihow can i wrap a forward slash "/" in a bash variable?20:13
younderwith a \/20:14
ioriaTempAcc499,  sure... but it runs in ram .... so it's a test only for compatibility20:14
TomyWorknacc nah, should be fine :)20:14
TempAcc499Ah okay20:14
draxdeveloperi am back, here: http://pastebin.com/uSfVnRF820:15
raubIf I ping a host in my vlan (as in ping hostname -c 1), shouldn't arp -a show it?20:15
ioriadraxdeveloper, apt-cache policy wine20:16
draxdeveloperhttp://pastebin.com/XnwsHi6r20:16
draxdeveloperwait, this means that my ubuntu version it's 14?20:17
iorianope20:17
draxdeveloperit's says: Candidate: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1420:18
ioria!info wine xenial20:18
ubottuwine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14 (xenial), package size 0 kB, installed size 6 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)20:18
naccdraxdeveloper: you are running 16.04 (well the 16.04 repository is configurd, at least); lsb_release -a will tell you20:18
draxdeveloperyep, xenial20:18
kostkondraxdeveloper, it also says ubutnu xenial so you are on 16.0420:19
ioriadraxdeveloper, 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14 (xenial) is correc20:19
TomyWorknacc is there any way to build just the modules?20:19
TomyWorkit's make after all, isnt it?20:19
TomyWorki got the source tree here20:19
naccTomyWork: yes, but an unbuilt source tree20:19
TomyWorkmake btusb.ko - no dice20:19
draxdeveloperso why wine have broken packages?20:19
naccTomyWork: you could try `make M=drivers/bluetooth/`20:19
draxdeveloperThe only thing i installed here is synaptic and chrome20:19
naccdraxdeveloper: you have yet to show *any* evidence of breakage20:19
naccdraxdeveloper: i asked very specifically for what command and output you get; you showed a policy output which says you have not installed wine.20:20
docmurI'm doing a debootstrap install of ubuntu 16.04.1, then running a script inside a chroot of that install to apt-get the kernel and grub.  Once I have those I run grub-install /dev/sda, but when I reboot I keep getting a kernel panaic, saying it's missing a initrd20:20
iorianacc, http://pastebin.com/uSfVnRF820:20
draxdevelopernacc, but i have not installed wine20:20
draxdevelopernacc, i just can't install20:20
naccdraxdeveloper: sorry, i missed that one20:20
naccdraxdeveloper: apt-cache policy wine1.6?20:21
draxdevelopernacc http://pastebin.com/uSfVnRF820:21
draxdeveloperthis what i get when try to install wine20:21
naccdraxdeveloper: no, that is for wine, wine1.620:21
naccdraxdeveloper: err, sorry, that paste i've seen20:21
naccdraxdeveloper: i'm asking for a new one, for the policy for wine1.620:22
younderyou loathe the broken bit20:22
naccTomyWork: fyi, uploaded (4.4.0-49.70~14.04.2~ppa1), it's building now20:22
TomyWorknacc make, wait a few seconds, then the command you wrote :)20:22
OerHeksdraxdeveloper, try sudo apt-get install wine:i38620:23
naccTomyWork: you're not using secure boot or anything, right?20:23
draxdeveloperhere, http://pastebin.com/6z3ikFEY20:23
TomyWorknacc not that i know20:23
TomyWorki guess i'll see? :D20:23
draxdeveloperDerHeks, but i use a 64 ubuntu20:23
OerHeksdraxdeveloper, likely there is no wine:amd6420:23
TomyWorki'll try just overwriting the btusb.ko i just built20:23
naccdraxdeveloper: no, `apt-cache policy wine1.6`, exactly as written (no space between wine an 1.6)20:24
naccOerHeks: both are built for i386 and amd6420:24
naccTomyWork: right so you'll need to modprobe -r btusb20:24
naccTomyWork: and then insmod /path/to/btusb.ko20:24
ioriadraxdeveloper, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures20:24
TomyWorkcp --backup drivers/bluetooth/btusb.ko /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.ko && modprobe -r btusb && modprobe btusb20:25
TomyWorkworks just as well :)20:25
TomyWorkbuuut, Exec format error20:25
draxdevelopernacc, here: http://pastebin.com/wxzZcyFu20:25
naccTomyWork: `file btusb.ko` ?20:25
TomyWorkI guess the "WARNING: Symbol version dump ./Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions." did mean something :)20:25
sdfksdfkwhat can I do about the performance hit I'm taking20:26
sdfksdfkI came from windows 720:26
naccTomyWork: note that wont'w ork correctly on the next boot, as you also need to rebuild the intiramfs20:26
nicomachussdfksdfk: what kind of performance hit?20:26
draxdeveloperioria, it's returns i38620:26
nicomachusdetails pls20:26
sdfksdfknicomachus: litterally everything.20:26
naccdraxdeveloper: maybe try the output of `apt install wine wine1.6`20:26
sdfksdfkGPU performance took a hit (probably need to setup the proprietary drivers) disk I/O took a hit.20:26
naccTomyWork: maybe, i'm guessing you'll see errors in dmesg from the failed load20:26
sdfksdfkNetwork IO took a hit20:26
nicomachussdfksdfk: be more specific. "took a hit"?20:27
TomyWork[ 5294.924036] btusb: no symbol version for module_layout20:27
sdfksdfknicomachus: Performacnce drops20:27
TomyWorkso i was right :)20:27
nicomachussdfksdfk: ok. what is the ubuntu version and hardware specs?20:27
naccTomyWork: yeah, so it wasn't built the way ubuntu builds, and then it flaked out20:27
draxdevelopernacc, http://pastebin.com/Uw0MbJdw20:27
TomyWorki need a Module.symvers20:27
sdfksdfknicomachus: 16.04 LTS 8gb ram, 1tb HDD, phenom 95520:28
sdfksdfkI also have a r9 270x20:28
TomyWorknacc /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-47-generic/Module.symvers i guess i'll use this one? :)20:28
naccTomyWork: you need to make sure to use the ubuntu configuration file20:28
naccTomyWork: it's not that trivial20:28
TomyWork./drivers/bluetooth/Module.symvers or this one? huh?20:28
naccTomyWork: can you just wait til the package is done building?20:28
nicomachussdfksdfk: can you please paste the output of "sudo lshw" to a pastebin and link here? Need to make sure all the drivers are installed and are the right ones.20:28
TomyWorknacc sure, i just thought i'd poke around a bit in case there are errors after that :)20:29
ioriadraxdeveloper, try to update/upgrade the system20:29
sdfksdfknicomachus: one sec20:29
ioriadraxdeveloper,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade20:29
sdfksdfkI'm locking up badly.20:29
draxdeveloperhttp://pastebin.com/z6gLQj4r20:30
draxdeveloperit's have an error in the xenius repository o020:30
sdfksdfkhttp://termbin.com/qsml20:30
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naccioria: good catch, looks to be out of sync maybe20:30
draxdeveloperbut it's seems the system is updated20:31
iorianacc, yeah20:31
ioriadraxdeveloper,  how can you know ?20:31
sdfksdfknicomachus: One piece of good news. I got TF2 and steam to work on linux :>20:32
nicomachussdfksdfk: drivers look good.20:32
draxdeveloperioria, http://pastebin.com/u3c23By420:32
nicomachussdfksdfk: are you getting slowdowns during any particular activity that you can identify?20:32
sdfksdfkCompared to windows on this machine, Linux has been a complete trainwreck every time I've tried20:32
sdfksdfknicomachus: anything with disk IO or networking20:33
sdfksdfkThe most fustrating part? My laptop LOVES linux.20:33
draxdeveloperioria, has sum mismatch20:33
draxdeveloperhash20:33
naccdraxdeveloper: yes, that means it did *not* successfully update20:34
ioriadraxdeveloper,  i see ... ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and if empty try to change mirror20:34
draxdeveloperioria, just have the google chrome rep.20:35
ioriadraxdeveloper,  are you on a livecd ?20:35
draxdeveloper(google-chrome.list)20:35
draxdevelopernop20:35
draxdeveloperbut it's a fresh install. The only thing i have done was install the chrome and synaptic20:36
sdfksdfkyay TF2 is having a stroke.20:36
draxdeveloper(in fact, it was a reinstall)20:36
ioriadraxdeveloper,  can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list ?20:36
naccdraxdeveloper: even on fresh install, you should do `apt update; apt full-upgrade`. And in your case, the `apt update` step is failing20:37
ioriadraxdeveloper,  proxy ?20:37
draxdeveloperhttp://pastebin.com/1Qzu6RAW20:37
draxdeveloperioria, how i check the proxy20:38
sdfksdfksoo20:38
sdfksdfkwhy20:39
ioriadraxdeveloper,  i mean... are you using a proxy ? but i guess is 'no'20:39
sdfksdfkwhy am I getting HUGE performance hits when compared to windows20:39
draxdeveloperioria, no20:39
nicomachussdfksdfk: stop saying the same things over and over.20:40
sdfksdfknicomachus: No one has been able to explain.20:40
ioriadraxdeveloper,  sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update20:40
nicomachusunless you can quantify these "performance hits" or provide more detail, then there's nothing anyone can do.20:40
sdfksdfknicomachus: locking up massively.20:40
RaulDukeAnyone know where to get a Chromium update? My Chromium 51 isn't updating on Wily20:40
sdfksdfkeverything locking up.20:40
sdfksdfkis that not quantified enough?20:40
naccRaulDuke: wily is eol, you should upgrade asap20:41
nacc!eol | RaulDuke20:41
ubottuRaulDuke: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:41
RaulDukemakes sense, thank you20:41
nicomachussdfksdfk: please use top or htop and check logs to see what is causing the lock ups, then. Is CPU maxing out? RAM? some bottleneck in the kernel or systemd?20:42
draxdeveloperioria, still having the shash mismatch20:42
draxdeveloperhash20:42
sdfksdfknicomachus: "4177 felix     20   0 2733044 1.100g 206920 S  73.4 14.0  63:26.78 firefox20:42
sdfksdfk73% cpu... by firefox... of course..20:42
sdfksdfk...20:42
ioriadraxdeveloper,  change mirror20:43
draxdeveloperioria, how i do this?20:43
ioriadraxdeveloper,  systemsetting -> software&update20:43
sdfksdfkAnyone else having bad experiences with FireFox right now?20:44
ioriadraxdeveloper,  > Download from20:44
draxdeveloperchanged to the main server20:44
ioriadraxdeveloper,  sudo apt-get update20:44
draxdeveloperioria, yeah, no errors this time =D20:45
draxdeveloperi had a hunch that i could change to main server. I will hear my intution next time20:45
ioriadraxdeveloper,  sudo apt full-upgrade20:45
draxdeveloperok, upgrading20:46
sdfksdfk; - ;!20:46
ioriasdfksdfk, ff is great :þ20:46
draxdeveloperah, i have a doubt about this site:  http://blog.guntram.de/?p=1620:46
sdfksdfkioria: FF gave me cancer20:47
sdfksdfkand ran over my dog.20:47
ioriasdfksdfk, hehehehe20:47
draxdeveloperi tried to follow this tutorial and welll, it's break my system (keyboard and mice stop working)20:47
draxdeveloperbut i can't find any other solution to this issue (my mouse is with the double click issue, so i need a debounce)20:47
sdfksdfkioria: I can't read my TF2 gamechat.20:48
sdfksdfkFont rendering is garbage.20:48
SweetSpotis there a less verbose manner to create keyboard shortcuts from terminal than using this method http://askubuntu.com/questions/597395/how-to-set-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-from-terminal ?20:48
ioriadraxdeveloper,  uname -r ?20:49
draxdeveloperwhat uname do?20:49
ioriadraxdeveloper,  kernel ver20:49
draxdeveloperah, it's still upgrading. But the thing is... Do you think i should trust in this blog? I would have to install a deb. package from there.20:50
ioriadraxdeveloper,  nope20:50
draxdeveloperhum... So how can i debounce my mouse?20:50
sdfksdfk...20:50
sdfksdfkYay for Linux being the second rate desktop os ; - ;20:51
SweetSpotsdfksdfk, why????20:51
sdfksdfkSweetSpot: TF2 has horrid font rendering on Linux20:51
ioriadraxdeveloper,  interval time issue with left click ?20:51
sdfksdfkAll Source Engine games do :c20:51
SweetSpoti never liked games20:52
draxdeveloperioria, yeah. My mouse is double cliking REALLY fast.20:52
draxdeveloperit's random.20:52
SweetSpotsame ol mechanics since... always?20:52
draxdeveloperand it's a hardware problem.20:52
SweetSpottheres no randomness20:52
rexwin_-bash: /home/vv/bin/rm: No such file or directory20:52
ioriadraxdeveloper,  systemsetting -> mouse20:52
rexwin_I am getting the above message when trying to remove a file20:53
draxdeveloperioria, even if i put in the slowest speed it's still double clicks20:53
draxdeveloperlike i said, it's really fast20:53
sdfksdfkAnyone have a good method of audio re-routing on linux?20:53
draxdeveloperthat' why i need debounce20:53
sdfksdfkSo I want to take 1 source, split it up and combine it with other sources along the way to the target20:53
sdfksdfkEssentially I need a patch panel20:54
ioriadraxdeveloper,  do you have a rapid-fire" setting on the keyboard ?20:54
draxdeveloperioria, the mouse have a rapid fire button that i can't desactivate20:55
draxdeveloperi hate the button, but i can't do anything about it.20:55
ioriarexwin_, other commands like rename  ??20:57
sdfksdfkThis font rendering is killing me.20:57
sdfksdfk; - ;\20:57
bekksrexwin_: can you show us the output of "echo $PATH" please?20:58
rexwin_yes, give me a sec20:58
rexwin_output /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin21:00
bekksrexwin_: and the complete output of "alias" please, in a pastebin.21:01
ioriarexwin_,  it's not even looking at your /home/user/bin21:01
bekksioria: thats why I'm asking about aliases.21:01
ioriadraxdeveloper,  there should be a way to disable that rapid fire...21:03
dStructok can someone PLEASE tell me why 16.x has removed the -t option from gnome-terminal, I can no longer name my windows??21:03
rexwin_http://pastebin.ca/3739855 + a lot of aliases of my colleague21:04
draxdeveloperioria, i think it's a machanical button (maybe ot's just press 3 times the left button) so i will have to open my mouse i "disable" it21:04
draxdeveloperwell, i will deal with this later. Now i can risk to break my mouse.21:04
bekksrexwin_: As you can see your second alias is breaking things. Remove it.21:04
sdskfguyLitterally21:05
sdskfguyFucking 10/10 just happened.21:05
sdskfguyMy desktop hung but it gets better!21:05
sdskfguyReboot, x11 is now broken.21:05
ioriarexwin_,  look at your  ~/bin ... maybe there is a reason for the rm alias21:05
sdskfguyI spent 12 hours secure erasing my drive to install ubuntu to end up with a broken install.21:05
sdskfguyThere will never be a year of the Linux desktop.21:06
kostkondStruct, the gnome developers are to blame for that I guess21:06
bekkssdskfguy: why did you secure erase before installing? :D21:06
sdskfguybekks: security.21:06
sdskfguy:D21:06
bekkssdskfguy: s/security/paranoia/21:06
sdskfguybekks: nope.21:06
dStructkostkon: I just upgraded from 14.x to 16.x and it really broke what I was doing, now I have to find another terminal, I can't imagine a single reason why they would need to remove that option21:06
sdskfguyI'm not going into details why I did secure wipe21:06
sdskfguyjust that I did21:06
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rmacsdskfguy: to be fair I have more installs of Win10 that are hosed than Linux21:07
walnutbeardcant install my games also programs so i am swappin windows but while usin winusb Installation failed !21:07
walnutbeardExit code: 3251221:07
walnutbeardLog:21:07
walnutbeardi did ntfs and fat format and manage flags bootable21:07
sdskfguyrmac: This was coming from windows 721:07
bekkswalnutbeard: and how is that an Ubuntu issue?21:07
sdskfguy:|21:07
sdskfguyWindows 7 is GOAT21:07
sdskfguyrmac: the biggest piss off about all this?21:08
sdskfguyMY LAPTOP THAT IM ON NOW IS BEUTIFUL WITH LINUX21:08
sdskfguyNot a single issue.21:08
bekkssdskfguy: This isnt the correct place for chitchat ;)21:08
sdskfguySame installer used on my laptop as my desktop, no lockups, wifi performance hickups, etc.21:08
kostkondStruct, there are several you could try though that are much more advanced feature-wise than gnome-terminal21:08
rmacI assumed this wasn't a widespread issue or we'd all be on another OS :-P21:08
sdskfguybekks: Want to help me get x11 back to life...21:08
bekkssdskfguy: First you have to tell us what you messed up in detail.21:09
sdskfguybekks: I didn't do anything.21:09
sdskfguyFrom the get go FF was using 70%+ cpu21:09
bekkswalnutbeard: no need for unasked an unwanted queries. Keep it in this channel.21:09
sdskfguywalnutbeard: un-solicited pms are like un-solicited dick pics21:10
sdskfguyDon't send them.21:10
walnutbeardu are a troll i was askin for winusb its on ubuntu21:10
sdskfguy...21:10
bekkswalnutbeard: you did not mention you are on Ubuntu. So dont call names on people, not even in a query.21:10
genii!info winusb21:10
ubottuPackage winusb does not exist in yakkety21:10
bekkswalnutbeard: and you cannot install Ubuntu on NTFS/FAT.21:11
OerHeksgenii, only from a ppa, or use etcher21:11
walnutbeardu dont even read21:11
OerHekshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source21:11
sdskfguywell I guess I'm migrating back to windows 721:11
dStructkostkon: true, I was looking at terminator among a few others, but gnome-term was working fine for opening the 15 serial port control screens I need, really annoying, if there was some kind of reason to remove that feature I would totally get it, you know21:11
sdskfguyrip21:11
geniiOerHeks: Interesting.21:11
bekkswalnutbeard: I've read enough of your for placing you on my ignore list.21:11
walnutbearddo i even care u child?21:11
OerHeksgenii, iirc, for windows iso too21:11
sdskfguywalnutbeard: with an attitude like Trump's you'll never get support in here.21:12
kostkondStruct, yeah, but unfortunately that's were gnome is heading to, a more simplified application stack21:12
sdskfguywalnutbeard: I've used winusb but seeing how you're acting, you can go suck it.21:12
sdskfguyTreat people with respect if you EVER want help in here. Until then21:12
sdskfguy!ops walnutbeard troll21:12
dStructkostkon: well I hope you #gnome guys are listening, I for one AM NOT HAPPY :D21:12
ubottusdskfguy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:12
walnutbeardit said its non of ubuntu problem and trolled me like that do u call that support21:12
sdskfguywalnutbeard:21:12
sdskfguyAgain you gave no respect21:13
sdskfguyGave no details.21:13
nicomachussdskfguy: stop.21:13
sdskfguyNow you get no support from here on out. Try again tomorrow.21:13
nicomachusdrop it.21:13
sdskfguynicomachus: want to explain why x11 died after a reboot?21:13
\9sdskfguy: don't feed the trolls21:13
sdskfguy\9: ok21:13
sdskfguyAnyways I'm off to re-install windows.21:14
\9i just reinstalled ubuntu and am off to reboot :P21:14
sdskfguyUbuntu was a massive trainwreck on my setup :| if anyone can suggest a mid range build that's linux friendly that would be greatly appreciated21:14
sdskfguyI'm just looking for working out of the box with Ubuntu with a moderate GPU21:14
kostkonsdskfguy, we've already heard your concerns at least twice already, let's end it here21:15
nicomachussdskfguy: linux works on almost any hardware. I'm guessing in this case it was user error. a fresh install with a verified USB medium might be good.21:15
\9well, ubuntu kindly deals with all the hardware i put together21:15
\9can't help you with that21:15
blackflow*shrug* Works fine on all my machines.21:15
sdskfguykostkon: ...21:15
rmacHaven't hit any hardware that wasn't compatible yet :-/21:15
dStructwalnutbeard: I would kindly recommend you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines21:15
sdskfguynicomachus: no user error.21:15
rexwin_cat /etc/issue doesnot display ubuntu version and uname -a doesnot provide OS details. how to check OS version. I am told this is a ubuntu machine21:15
sdskfguyI installed using the same USB I used for this machine (thats running fine) installed steam played TF2, froze, rebooted, no x11.21:16
rmacrexwin_ /etc/issue doesn't have to display anything about the OS version.  It's there for boot messages, iirc21:16
OerHeksrexwin_,for 16.04 and up:  hostnamectl status21:17
OerHeksor any systemd install21:17
sdskfguynicomachus: I'm looking for a gurented to work setup. My experiences so far have led me to believe I can only ever achieve that with Intel's iGPU21:17
nicomachussdskfguy: my AMD GPU works fantastically.21:18
sdskfguynicomachus: what gpu?21:18
wedgiesdskfguy: as does my nvidia 560Ti21:18
sdskfguyAlso FOSS or prop?21:18
nicomachusRadeon HD 645021:18
sdskfguynicomachus: hah21:18
dStructrexwin_: what does lsb_release -ir show you?21:18
wedgieusing the prop drivers21:18
sdskfguyMy R9 270x wants a talk with you nicomachus21:18
wedgiethough it was perfectly functional with the free ones21:18
sdskfguyIt performs much faster when it does work21:18
gebjgdsdskfguy, r9 270 works well with steam dota221:18
sdskfguygebjgd: radeon?21:19
gebjgdsdskfguy, whatever with prop driver or opensource driver21:19
sdskfguygebjgd: radeon card21:19
sdskfguyor gigabyte, etc?21:19
gebjgdsdskfguy, yes21:19
gebjgdsdskfguy, [AMD/ATI] Curacao XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370 OEM]21:19
sdskfguygebjgd: that's a gigabyte21:20
sdskfguyI have a radeon21:20
sdskfguysorry saphire*21:20
sdskfguybleh21:20
sdskfguySeems like saphire cards and Linux do not get along.21:20
sdskfguyever.21:20
youndernop21:20
sdskfguyanways ill brb in a hour, I have to go get my spine xrayed to ensure I didn't slip a disk21:20
sdskfguyyay!21:21
youndergo for ATI those are the most cooperative21:21
sdskfguy21 and possibly fucked my spine.21:21
gebjgdsdskfguy, that is sapphire r9 270x21:21
Cbs01Hello gusy how is going how are you?21:22
OerHekssdskfguy, please tone down,. keep this channel family friendly, thanks.21:22
younder@!#!21:22
nicomachusno obfuscation either. :P21:22
youndercartoon enough now21:22
younderwhat the f#@!21:23
nicomachusyounder: stop. obfuscation is also against the guidelines.21:23
rexwin_hostnamectl status gives the OS version of 16.021:23
kostkonyounder, it's the attitude that matters21:23
younderOk I stop21:24
younderme wanna please massa.21:25
Cbs01Helllo...21:25
rexwin_my testing.sh contains the following line21:26
rexwin_sudo tar czf backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /etc21:26
rexwin_when I cron it doesn't run as expected21:26
Ben64because of the sudo21:26
rexwin_why Ben64?21:26
Ben64because it needs a password21:27
bekksrexwin_: because you are a) using sudo and b) not using a full path to the tar binary.21:27
rmacsudo crontab -e and add that to the root user's cron job list21:27
bekksrexwin_: create that cronjob as root, not as user.21:27
rmacBut without sudo21:27
rexwin_I want tp run this as a particular user. can't we do that in ubuntu?21:27
rexwin_to*21:27
Ben64why does it matter21:27
wedgierexwin_: you probably also want to specify a full path for where backup_etc_xxx.tar.gz is created21:27
Ben64you're trying to get root permissions anyway21:28
rmacrexwin_ you can, but you added "sudo" to the script which is then requesting to run as root.21:28
rmacrexwin_ each user has their own cron job list, so you can add the command as whichever user you want.  Removing sudo from your script will cause it to run as the user whose crontab you added the command to21:29
rexwin_because the tar commands only runs as sudo and it throws permission denied if run without sudo21:29
bekksrexwin_: so run them as root, from within the root crontab. without sudo.21:29
InporylemHows Kodi on ubuntu mate these days, never tried but heard it had quite many problems at the beginning.21:30
rexwin_can't we pass the password along with the tar command so that sudo runs without issues?21:31
Ben64why not run it under root's cron?21:31
bekksrexwin_: No.21:31
nicomachusrexwin_: that's just an unnecessarily complicated way to do it, even if it would work21:31
dStructrexwin_: using sudo in a cron script is probably a bad idea21:31
wedgierexwin_: if you want to get really crazy you can modify the sudoers config to not require a password... but really you should just run this as root.21:31
rexwin_because my colleague wants it like that21:32
Ben64tell your colleague they are wrong21:32
ducasserexwin_: then he's wrong :)21:32
nicomachuswell your colleague is an idiot21:32
wedgiethere is *no* benefit to running as an arbitrary user if they just have to sudo it21:32
rexwin_copy that21:32
dStructrexwin_: I agree with well.. everyone, your colleague is wrong21:32
rmacrexwin_ or you could do something equally crazy and change the permissions on the folders you're trying to access or add your user to a group that has correct permissions... But adding this to root's cron is much better21:33
rmacInporylem: Kodi is pretty stable on Ubuntu.  Haven't tried it using Mate DE, though.21:34
InporylemOk21:34
rexwin_thanks to the lively bunch of people21:35
dStructrexwin_: you know there's a backup user and group?21:35
rexwin_not that I have across. I am essentially a LAMP admin who is just starting up21:35
rmacrexwin_ nothing to do with the permissions thing, but you may want to check out the rsync command for backups.  Not sure if it helps your use case.21:36
rexwin_I have used rsync before in my website development company. Now I donot have a chance to use it21:37
bekksrexwin_: do you have ssh access?21:38
dStructrexwin_: multiple servers, or just single server deployments?  Have you seen Docker?  it's god21:38
rexwin_for what?21:38
bekksrexwin_: for accessing your systems using ssh.21:38
dStructrexwin_: scp can be used to backups21:38
rexwin_yes of course21:39
bekksrexwin_: then you can use rsync, since it uses ssh.21:39
rexwin_is systemd implemented in ubuntu 14.06?21:39
wedgierexwin_: ... do you mean 14.04 or 16.04?21:40
rexwin_I know it is in 16.0421:40
naccrexwin_: wedgie asked that because "14.06" isn't anything21:41
dStructrexwin_: on my 16.x install it's service is stopped21:41
rmac14.04 used upstart21:41
Cbs01I need help i it dif >linux mint < & ubuntu distro21:41
bekksCbs01: can you rephrase that please?21:42
BvelcasAlguien que hable español ?21:45
Pici!es | Bvelcas21:45
ubottuBvelcas: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:45
rexwin_how to check what services are starting up along with the system in 14.x?21:46
OerHeksCbs01, comparing package versions? have fun >> https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint --- https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu21:47
clorisuHi, my epson xp 220 printer allows me to print pages, but whenever i try to scan I get the error messages 'no scanners available'21:48
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pacovchow long does it usually take for ubuntu to update the repositories to programs like firefox that release their upgrades? for instance firefox 50 upgrade.22:00
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dStructrexwin_: it looks like Ubuntu 15.x and on is now systemd, and prior was upstart, at least that's what the website says22:03
ducassepacovc: firefox is usually updated within a matter of days.22:04
pacovccool.. thanks ducasse22:04
rexwin_sudo service --status-all show the following thing https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4031mxqpj6vuaz/Screenshot%202016-11-18%2003.34.04.png?dl=022:04
rexwin_what does question mark indicate?22:05
drownHey does anyone know where I can get a good pdf for Apache2 administration that's for UBUNTU syntax22:05
bekksdrown: docs.apache.org :)22:05
drownThey have ubuntu specific pdfs?22:05
drownAnd does it matter if it's 1104 vs 14.04?22:05
nicomachusdrown: 1104?22:05
bekksdrown: you dont need ubuntu specific pdfs for apache ;)22:06
nicomachusYou shouldn't be using 11.0422:06
drownI know i know22:06
drownI'm using 14.0422:06
drownBut some of the terminology is diff on a ubuntu/deb vs rpm system22:06
ducassedrown: the ubuntu server guide has the ubuntu specific details22:06
bekksdrown: only the package names are.22:06
drownyeah but control commands are different22:07
drownlike service apache2 vs systmctl httpd22:07
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dStructrexwin_: 14.x used upstart which is not the same as systemd (aka service command), I don't know of a way off hand to find out what all is supposed to start on bootup, but upstart uses /etc/init.d/ so you could grep in there for runlevel, and maybe check /etc/rc3.d/ too22:08
lalbantuuuhi, when i try to systemctl start tor.service in ubuntu 16.10 it doesn't work, with systemctl status i see active (exited), what's the problem?22:09
lalbantuuuanyone?22:12
dStructlalbantuuu: what does sudo service tor.service start do?22:13
OerHeksthat runs as user22:13
OerHekstry with sudo22:13
lalbantuuuofc i ran with sudo22:13
lalbantuuuit didn't work22:13
lalbantuuui get active (exited)22:14
lalbantuuudStruct: let me see22:14
iptrafHi, I  try to use iptraf in lubuntu but it doesn't see my interface, only Lo. It's called enp0s3.22:14
OerHeksare you sure it is not running? ss -aln | grep 905022:14
lalbantuuutcp    LISTEN     0      128    127.0.0.1:9050                  *:*22:15
lalbantuuudoes that mean it is already running?22:15
OerHeksyes22:15
lalbantuuuso it seems it started on its own22:16
lalbantuuuon my other computer where i have another distribution22:16
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor#Starting_Services_and_Checking_Status22:16
lalbantuuui have to start it on my own22:16
lalbantuuuokay so why doesn't it stop22:17
lalbantuuuwhen i do sudo systemctl stop tor.service?22:17
OerHeks what does journalctl say?22:17
lalbantuuuit says stopped22:19
lalbantuuui checked that earlier22:19
lalbantuuulet me just restart22:19
lalbantuuuthis whole session has been very buggy22:19
WTWW_I am very new to Ubuntu and I went to the Software tab in the menu.  I found a program or app that I wanted to try. It then told me that I had to joint Ubuntu One. So I did all it said for me to join.  All the programs that require Ubuntu One will not accept my password or log in.  I even delted my account and started over again with a new name.  Strangely enough I am a talk show host and a number of listeners have had the same problem.22:24
lalbantuuuok so before restarting i ran sudo systemctl enable tor.service and rebooted22:24
lalbantuuuwith your command i can see that it listens on port 905022:24
WTWW_I am thinking I am just to stupid to figure out something very simple.22:24
lalbantuuubut systemctl status tor.service still shows active (exited)22:24
OerHeksWTWW_, ubuntu-one is a different account, youneed to register online first, it is not your ubuntu login22:27
lalbantuuuOerHeks, do you have any idea why this is happening?22:28
WTWW_OerHeks  Thank you so very much... where do I register online...? if you would be so kind?22:28
lalbantuuuWTWW_: just google ubuntu online22:28
WTWW_Thank you!  I ask myself every day.. what if there was no Google?  LOL22:29
lalbantuuujust google ubuntu one online*22:29
OerHekshttps://login.ubuntu.com/22:29
WTWW_That is the page where I logged in and got a user account and I can log into that page and see my account information just fine with the user and pass. However when I select an app or program to download it will not accept my log in.22:32
WTWW_I tried deleting the account and then setting up a different account and it does the same thing will not accept my log in22:33
WTWW_is there an addtional Ubuntu log in or another place to register a user name?22:33
naccWTWW_: what is not accepting your log in?22:34
WTWW_Ubuntu One22:34
naccWTWW_: I don't understand? you just said that you are able to see your account information? meaning you are logged in22:34
naccWTWW_: what specific page are you trying to login to that doesn't accept your login?22:35
WTWW_Yes Ubuntu one will let me log in just fine from the web page.  When I go to download a piece of software from the Unbuntu software repository that is accesed throught he Ubuntu Menu the Ubuntu One screeen pops up and it rejects my log in22:36
naccWTWW_: "Ubuntu Software Repository", do you mean "Ubuntu Software Center"?22:37
WTWW_yes22:37
naccWTWW_: that has *nothing* to do with Ubuntu One22:37
OerHekspaid app, i guess22:37
naccWTWW_: what software are you trying to install?22:37
naccWTWW_: I should say, for most people, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu One :)22:38
WTWW_Spreedme is the name of the program22:40
kostkonWTWW_, what's the error message in the popup?22:41
WTWW_if I try to download the Ubuntu One box pops up wanting me to log in22:41
naccWTWW_: ah, so as OerHeks said, a non-free application.22:41
naccWTWW_: as kostkon said, what, if any, error message is printed22:42
WTWW_incorrect user name or password22:42
kostkonnacc, more like 3rd-party vendor app not necessarily a paid one22:42
sdskfguyQuestion22:42
sdskfguyAnyone know of a good Linux supported GPU?22:42
nacckostkon: err, yes, sorry22:42
sdskfguySoemthing other than intel's iGPU22:42
ducassenacc: a snap, also.22:42
nacckostkon: although that one is specifically non-free :)22:43
naccducasse: oh, all snaps require login, that's true22:43
* nacc amends mental model22:43
* sdskfguy sits here sad that his i7 2670m is old22:43
WTWW_same log in screen rejects my user and pass yet from the web the same screen works fine as far as log in22:43
* sdskfguy sits here sad that he can't afford to build a new intel rig yet but needs to plan22:43
WTWW_how would you pay for it?  you can't log in ?  I am lost.. LOL22:44
sdskfguyat least my laptop works on linux ; - ;22:44
sdskfguyok guys, stupid question of the year about to come through.22:44
sdskfguylike, stupid.22:45
ducasseWTWW_: are you using the "ubuntu software center" or "gnome software"?22:45
sdskfguyDoes Linux support older docks, not USB C doks22:45
sdskfguydocks*22:45
naccsdskfguy: yes, and I'd say genearlly usb-c docks are less supported; although the precise answer depends on the dock, probably22:45
kostkonsdskfguy, like usb and usb2 docks?22:45
sdskfguynacc: ok, I'm consdiering just getting a dock for my laptop22:45
multiverseHello, has anyone here spent time porting /bin/bash scripts from other Linux distros to Ubuntu 16?  I ask because I have ported some, and the bash (version I’m on is default for the latest), and my nested source (AKA .)  includes not longer work.  My variables are instantiated like so:  TEST=“test” and use them:  echo ${TEST}22:45
sdskfguykostkon: no22:45
sdskfguyHP docks22:46
kostkonsdskfguy, oh right, laptop docks22:46
WTWW_I am using it because I found it in the menu.  New to Ubuntu and exploring I thought that was supposed to be a good thing22:46
sdskfguyI'm thinking about using my laptop as a desktop22:46
sdskfguyIt has more horsepower...22:46
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naccmultiverse: are you sure you aren't mistakenly using sh instead of bash in Ubuntu?22:47
naccmultiverse: i've not heard of many issues with bash portability between distributions22:47
naccmultiverse: it would be good to pastebin an example and its corresponding incorrect output22:47
multiverseI promise I echo $022:48
multiverseerr22:48
multiverseps $$22:48
multiverseit is /bin/bash22:48
multiversefor sure22:48
WTWW_I would think for an experianced Untuntu user this would be a common or simple problem and as I am totally green to this I would hope I am doing something wrong that could be fixed..22:49
multiverseIn my os detection I test (and proven it works) for Ubuntu, and populate using constants like the one I first mentions.22:49
naccWTWW_: try using 'gnome software', i htink it's preferred now?22:49
multiversesure22:50
OerHekspaid apps are gone, iirc22:50
naccmultiverse: please just use a pastebin as requested, text doesn't really help show the problem22:50
multiversesorry about the racket22:50
WTWW_I thought Ubuntu installed with Gnome?  Wonder what the heck I am runnning here?22:50
naccWTWW_: there are two software GUIs by default, "gnome software" and "ubuntu software center". THe latter is deprecated, even though it's present.22:51
naccWTWW_: try using hte former; on my system it shows up as "software" (rather than "ubuntu software center")22:51
WTWW_It shows up as just software on my box as well... oh well... someday LOL22:52
Bashing-omWTWW_: There are about 20 Desk tops in 'buntu .. to know what you are running try terninal copmmand ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .22:53
WTWW_$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ubuntustudio   XFCE22:53
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Bashing-omWTWW_: There ya go .. now ya know . ( I do favor xfce :) )22:54
WTWW_I engineer for a group of Nashville radio stations and we "family" runs a very large shortwave facility here in the Nashville area..we are trying to eliminate all Windows boxes....22:55
Bashing-omWTWW_: ^ Then ya also want to register on the ubuntuforums.org forum :)22:57
WTWW_I thought I did that as well... LOL.... I am the reason for the word stupid... LOL22:57
WTWW_Need you to get some folks together to come on my radio show each night on WTWW and talk about Utuntu and Linux..huge huge audiance22:58
WTWW_Lots of Windows users like me ready to jump off the boat....22:59
WTWW_they just need a little push22:59
Bashing-omWTWW_: That my friend is off-topic for this the support channel . takes away from the focus .22:59
WTWW_I am gone.  this is why Linux is viewed by thousands as a slide rule think glasses bunch ... tune in tonight on wtww... I will talk about it. wont be back here23:00
peyamhi23:03
peyamAutocompletation in Latexila has stopped working. anyone knows what to do to get it back?23:04
loryciauu a  tutti23:05
peyamhuh?23:06
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multiverseHi again, I’m back with a pastebin!  http://pastebin.com/7bE1r67B23:15
Guest98315guys, I could take audio player recommendations. I'm looking for something that supports opus and embedded lyrics(and optionally videogame music formats like spc)23:16
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porkstorehej23:19
porkstoreanyone let me know if this is an inappropriate question23:19
porkstorewondering should i be able to set up an ubuntu machine to be relatively ddos proof ?23:19
compdocban him!!23:20
porkstorei secure my web servers from some ddos attacks23:20
compdocjk :)23:20
freakyyhey all, im going to set up ubuntu server on a hybrid system. 2 ssds 356GB  SW-RAID1, 2HDDs 1TB - SW-RAID1 ... how much should i allocate for the SSD /boot?23:20
porkstorebut i mean just a machine dedicated to ircing23:20
porkstorei got ddossed earlier and i'm not even running apache23:20
usr13freakyy: 100M23:25
lordcirth500M might be safer23:25
lordcirthSeeing as I just autoremoved all but the running kernel and /boot is 117M23:26
SPeedYlordcirth 500M will save you some trouble in the future23:27
usr13freakyy: You may see kernels as large as 8 or 10M.  I doubt you'll keep more that 3 or 423:27
freakyyok ill use 500MB23:28
usr13I don't see any need for more than 2.23:29
SPeedY@porkstore nothing is 100%, specially protecting from ddos, best you could do is get a good firewall "an old asa goes for less than 150 on ebay"23:29
porkstoreit's just a cheap vps23:30
SPeedY@usr13 you are correct, but if you can't afford to waste 500M then you shouldn't be building servers23:30
SPeedYif unix then IP tables is your best friend23:30
SPeedYload fail2ban and set low restriction "but you may ban legitimiate users, lol"23:31
lordcirthporkstore, just note that there can be no defense on your end against someone simply filling your inbound pipe23:31
lordcirthOnly the ISP can blackhole that23:32
usr13I don't use a separate /boot/ partition.  Just /home and / and swap23:32
lordcirthme too ^23:32
porkstoreso basically any ircer in romania or something can ddos me and i can't really prevent it23:33
porkstoreisp blackholes my whole vps instead23:33
usr13And I use 80 - 100G for /23:33
lordcirthporkstore, yup.  welcome to the internet of things.23:34
usr13freakyy: What kind of server are you building?23:34
SPeedY@porkstore a 6 years old kid can dos from his mom cellphone and there's shit you can do about it23:34
freakyyusr13: its a private server it runs several things23:35
usr13Ok, it's private ;)23:35
porkstorewell that's okay as long as i realize that23:35
porkstorethen i won't feel like a dumkopf23:35
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aminehello23:50
OerHeks 23:50
TomyWorknacc https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/lp1382490/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all looks like the build failed to upload :/23:51
freakyyusr13: why r u asking?23:51
freakyyi mean, its a private server with plesk, webspace, minecraft servers, ts3 server and so on ;D23:51

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