[00:00] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om umount /mnt/usb1 gives the same
[00:00] <jameskmonger> lordcirth I've unplugged and replugged and also rebooted the machine
[00:00] <abraham> lordcirth, now i want to update all my packages from my cd-rom, and not from internet, can i force that somehow so when i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it only upgrade from my cd-rom and not from internet?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: What says ' cat /proc/mounts ' ?
[00:02] <jameskmonger> @Bashing-om this is the output https://thepasteb.in/p/Y6hkK4mPR44F7
[00:02] <lordcirth> abraham, edit /etc/apt/sources.list , where it just put the line configuring the CD, and comment out the internet lines by putting a # at the beginning
[00:03] <lordcirth> abraham, however, note that this may leave the computer vulnerable if you don't do updates.
[00:03] <abraham> lordcirth, haha that was intelligent :) thanks, let me try
[00:03] <abraham> i will revert it back to internet once i update all that i have local
[00:05] <lordcirth> abraham, I guess you have an expensive metered connection?
[00:05] <abraham> yes, and i have three machines to keep updated :( so i update one of them i plan to move those updates to other machines by APTonCD
[00:06] <abraham> thats why i'm testing it now on vbox first
[00:06] <lordcirth> abraham, you should use apt-cacher-ng or squid-deb-proxy
[00:07] <lordcirth> it's much easier
[00:08] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Well .. it is not in the kernel, so must be dirty on the disk .. NTFS best handled on a Windows machine. Ya got access to a Windows box ?
[00:08] <jameskmonger> @Bashing-om Yeah I do
[00:09] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om plug the USB there and format it to NTFS on it?
[00:10] <e3> Hello, does somebody tried to install ubuntu on the new MacBookPro 13,1?
[00:11] <abraham> lordcirth, ok i commented out all internet repos except cd repo, now when i do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it goes well, shows me all my updates, but when i type "y" to install them it says "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'APTonCD for ubuntu xenial - amd64 (2016-11-17 4:30) DVD1' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press Enter
[00:11] <lordcirth> abraham, it says /media/cdrom ?
[00:11] <abraham> yes
[00:11] <lordcirth> abraham, does the entry in sources.list say  /media/cdrom or /media/robert/APTonCD/ ?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Naw .. I do think all ua want to do is clear the dirty bit Windows command 'chkdsk' . See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183680 .
[00:14] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, you can clear the dirty bit on Linux, if that's the problem
[00:14] <abraham> lordcirth, it says in sources list, "deb cdrom:[APTonCD for ubuntu xenial - amd64 (2016-11-17 04:30) DVD1]/ /
[00:15] <jameskmonger> Baching-om lordcirth When I now mount through the system menu (not command line) I get this:  https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOJ3qljg7t3
[00:15] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om ^
[00:15] <lordcirth> abraham, no path at all?
[00:15] <abraham> lordcirth, no
[00:16] <lordcirth> abraham, well, it's probably easiest to just remount the DVD at /media/cdrom like it expects
[00:16] <abraham> lordcirth, how?
[00:17] <lordcirth> abraham, you mounted it through GUI or command line?
[00:17] <lordcirth> unmount it however you mounted it
[00:17] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Uh huh . on linux able to clear the diry bit .. but I do advocate Windows tools for Windows issues .. IF we can get to a Windows box . Besides I have not done it .. and as such :)
[00:17] <abraham> lordcirth, i inserted it in vbox, from my host machine's vbox interface
[00:18] <lordcirth> abraham, I mean inside the VM.  Whether it's a real disk or not doesn't matter
[00:18] <abraham> and i automatically mounted
[00:19] <lordcirth> abraham, ok.  so look at 'lsblk -f' to see what the CD drive is called, then 'umount /dev/sr0' or whatever
[00:19] <abraham> lordcirth, i didn't mount it inside vm, it automatically got mounted at /media/robert/APTonCD/
[00:20] <lordcirth> abraham, but it is a CD inside the VM, right?  Not just a shared folder or something?
[00:21] <abraham> lordcirth, i don't know, i didn't modify anything, it's as default, i just inserted it in vbox and it appeard on my desktop already mounted
[00:21] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om lordcirth I've done chkdsk three times and I get this output when mounting on Linux https://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh0VRmnBXDh4
[00:21] <abraham> lordcirth, sr0    iso9660 APTonCD 2016-11-17-04-30-43-00               /media/robert/APTonC
[00:22] <abraham> lordcirth, sr0    NAME: iso9660   FSTYPE: APTonCD   LABEL: 2016-11-17-04-30-43-00              MOUNTPOINT: /media/robert/APTonC
[00:22] <lordcirth> abraham, ok, good.  so: sudo umount /dev/sr0 ;  sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom ; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
[00:23] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: So .. we look there ' ls -al /media/james ' .. Looks like ya stuck in the drive, and at some point pulled it out with out "UNmounting" .
[00:24] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om `ls -al /media/james` gives me the following (empty) https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBnygOLNKS8
[00:26] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Ouch .. ya got me now .. Will take someone with more smarts than I possess at this point to know the why .
[00:26] <abraham> lordcirth, thank you so much, this solves my problem. now it's upgrading from my cdrom
[00:26] <lordcirth> abraham, np.  Now, for your 3 machines, you should set up apt-cacher-ng
[00:26] <abraham> lordcirth, is there a tutorial for that?
[00:26] <jameskmonger> :( Thank you for the help anyway Bashing-om
[00:27] <abraham> lordcirth, oh is it a server? do i need a spare machine to set up that?
[00:27] <lordcirth> abraham, it needs to run on a machine which will be running and on the network, yes
[00:28] <lordcirth> abraham, then whenever any of them do updates, it will cache the packages for the rest
[00:28] <lordcirth> abraham, http://www.tecmint.com/apt-cache-server-in-ubuntu/
[00:28] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Another thought ! .. Are you explicitly mounting the drive in /etc/fstab ?
[00:29] <lordcirth> abraham, if the cache server goes down, the computers won't be able to update or install packages unless you fix it or disable the caching
[00:30] <jameskmonger> No I'm not Bashing-om, should I be?
[00:31] <Thomass> hi all
[00:31] <abraham> lordcirth, that looks complicated for me for now as a new linux user. i think APTonCD is better and simple. and i also don't have a spare pc, i understand the concept somewhat of caching updates as it was also on windows for windows updates cache servers, but anyway thank you so much for kind advice :)
[00:31] <Thomass> anyone here tell how to install teamspeak on unbuntu
[00:31] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: No, a removable device should not be mounted in that cinfig file . But was a thought from the reported error situation .
[00:32] <lordcirth> abraham, it may be harder at first, but I predict that shuffling CDs between 3 PCs will get old very quickly
[00:32] <jameskmonger> Is there a way I can clear all mountings beside HDD Bashing-om?
[00:32] <abraham> lordcirth, yes, i still need help with mounting an iso :p
[00:33] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om in order to start fresh? My USB works fine in my windows machine
[00:33] <lordcirth> abraham, mount -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile /mountpoint
[00:34] <abraham> lordcirth, do i always have to write iso9660 ? or is it a file name?
[00:34] <lordcirth> abraham, squid-deb-proxy is easier to set up than apt-cacher-ng, but it's harder to confirm that it's working and I thought there was a chance you could accidentally download 3 times not knowing it wasn't working
[00:34] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Well .. we can again look and see what the kernel may see . what shows ' sudo blkid ; sudo fdisk -lu ' ?
[00:34] <lordcirth> abraham, you may not have to these days.  It's the filesystem format, so it knows the file is in ISO format
[00:34] <lordcirth> -t means 'type'
[00:35] <Thomass> any gurus in here
[00:35] <abraham> lordcirth, that helps a lot bro, i learnt very important command from you today :)
[00:35] <lordcirth> abraham, no problem.  Have fun
[00:35] <lordcirth> !ask Thomass
[00:35] <lordcirth> !ask | Thomass
[00:36] <Thomass> i need to install teasmpseak in ubuntu on virtualbox
[00:36] <Thomass> wait
[00:36] <Thomass> just in ubuntu desktop
[00:36] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om this is before I insert the USB: https://thepasteb.in/p/WnhgcnRDrY50BhE, this is after: https://thepasteb.in/p/RghnwzoYKLYCz
[00:36] <Thomass> how do i run it..
[00:37] <dn> Thomass  whats your ubuntu version and arch
[00:37] <lordcirth> Thomass, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602091/teamspeak-3-on-ubuntu
[00:38] <Thomass> the latest version 16 lordcirth
[00:39] <Andorin> I've installed ssh on a computer and forwarded port 22 in the router to the computer's static IP address. In /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have disabled password authentication and root login, and I have generated an ssh key on my laptop to use to login. Do I need to do anything else to be reasonably safe from unauthorized access?
[00:40] <lordcirth> Andorin, that's fine, provided you get all security updates as soon as they come out
[00:40] <Andorin> lordcirth: Great, thanks.
[00:40] <lordcirth> Andorin, you should set security updates to be automatic if you haven't already
[00:42] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Looks good to me .. and waht no when in the GUI you select 'unmount" - Removable Disk - . By the way a space in a file name in linux is tough to deal with .
[00:42] <dn> lordcirth hi,do you know how to achive bond1 in 14.04 LTS ?
[00:42] <Phase> looking at ssh_config, I don't see a good way to execute a command on the remote server upon successfully sshing in -- except *maybe* ProxyCommand -- any ideas?
[00:42] <lordcirth> dn, a NIC bond?  I have done it, it's been a while
[00:43] <lordcirth> Phase, what exactly do you want to do?  Trigger a script every time someone successfully logs in?
[00:43] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: * what now happens when in the GUI **
[00:43] <lordcirth> dn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[00:44] <Phase> lordcirth: Yep. Basically, one of our servers is only accessible from another server. So, on my local machine I want to setup my ssh config so I can do `ssh server` and then it'll connect to it, and THEN ssh into the one I actually want.
[00:44] <dn> lordcirth  thanks;
[00:44] <jameskmonger> Okay, in the GUI I can unmount it
[00:44] <jameskmonger> Remounting it fails
[00:44] <jameskmonger> I have formatted it as FAT through the GUI and it works. Progress? @Bashing-om
[00:44] <lordcirth> Phase, how about putting in .bashrc:   alias servername='ssh server ssh server2' ?
[00:45] <Phase> lordcirth: I use ~/.ssh/config (man ssh_config) with Host, HostName, User, Port directives
[00:45] <Phase> I'd like to do it from there, if possible
[00:46] <lordcirth> Phase, what will you do if you want to ssh to the first server, then?
[00:46] <Phase> lordcirth: different name :)
[00:46] <lordcirth> an alias is the easiest way, I think
[00:47] <Phase> bleh
[00:47] <Phase> thanks for trying at least lordcirth
[00:48] <lordcirth> not to mention less tampering with ssh settings that might mess up ssh'ing elsewhere
[00:48] <Phase> There is zero chance it'll mess up sshing to some other box
[00:49] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: It is progress if it works amd you are happy .. but be aware that the FAT file system has serious limitations .
[00:49] <jameskmonger> Yeah I need NTFS. When I reformatted to NTFS, it failed to mount again
[00:51] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Yuk .. Will take some one who knows the NTFS file system .. Not me there .
[00:51] <jameskmonger> Thank you so much for the help nonetheless Bashing-om
[00:51] <jameskmonger> Do you have a PayPal account or similar where I can send some small money your way?
[00:53] <Phase> lordcirth: This is the idea, or how I want it to work but doesn't seem possible from all my googlin' :P http://pastebin.com/qGDgrckm
[00:53] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Not needed to monitarily emburse .. just pass it on down the line what you learn and know .
[00:53] <joegiampaoli> So HP laptop does suspend when telling it to, but it won't when closing lid. Anyone with this issue? Power management setting are set to suspen when closing lid. Any tips? Xubuntu 16.04
[00:53] <jameskmonger> Will do Bashing-om, thanks again
[00:53] <jameskmonger> Wait
[00:53] <jameskmonger> let me pass it on to you
[00:54] <jameskmonger> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[00:54] <lordcirth> Phase, well, if you change the ssh port on the privateserver, you could set up an ssh tunnel or something?
[00:54] <jameskmonger> I can now mount successfully. No idea what happened there but it works now
[00:54] <Phase> lordcirth: I'd just go with the alias at that point
[00:54] <Phase> meh
[00:54] <lordcirth> Phase, I would go with the alias from the beginning, without even looking, tbh.  it works fine
[00:55] <Phase> we're a group of like >15 people, I wanted to make easy to drop in should another person with access want to
[00:55] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Great .. like I say .. dirty bit ... that Window on a Windows file system should have been able to deal with .
[00:55] <Phase> e.g. wget myfancyconfig -O ~/.ssh/config ...and done!
[00:55] <Phase> I can still rig it up like that, just takes more effort
[00:55] <jameskmonger> Bashing-om I'm not sure why Windows didn't fix it. I did chkdsk three times and also reformatted it to NTFS on Windows
[00:55] <Phase> :P
[00:56] <lordcirth> Phase, I see.  if you get more than one private server like that, the correct answer would be a VPN
[00:56] <Phase> That's the only one currently, but yeah
[00:57] <boom> guten morgen
[00:58] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[00:58] <mikeymop> hey guys
[00:58] <mikeymop> I'm trying split half of my network off and bypass the primary router
[00:59] <mikeymop> I have a 4 port unmanaged switch inbetween my router and modem
[00:59] <glitchd> lordcirth, hmmm....that info actually isnt helping me at all..
[01:00] <lordcirth> Bray90820, did you run the self-check like I suggested earlier?
[01:00] <lordcirth> glitchd, how so?
[01:01] <glitchd> lordcirth, because from what i gather from the page, its more about autologins than auto running a program
[01:01] <glitchd> lordcirth, but ill just keep looking, thank you for your help anyways.
[01:02] <lordcirth> glitchd, the 'linger' setting is supposed to let you run a service as your user at boot, isn't it?
[01:02] <Bray90820> lordcirth: I did and the USB was fine
[01:03] <Bashing-om> jameskmonger: Well, just relieved it all worked out .. NTFS is not my forte, as you now know :)
[01:03] <lordcirth> Bray90820, may I ask why you were reinstalling so much?
[01:03] <pot_file> Bashing-om, hello
[01:03] <fn2> Hello everyone :)
[01:03] <Bashing-om> pot_file: Yes ??
[01:03] <Bray90820> I have an unrelated issue and I have been trying different distros and flavors to see if the issue is present there
[01:04] <pot_file> fn2, hello
[01:04] <Bray90820> lordcirth: I have an unrelated issue and I have been trying different distros and flavors to see if the issue is present there
[01:04] <glitchd> lordcirth, idk ill keep looking and reread the webpage, but again, thx for the help
[01:06] <pot_file> 1784 an growing...!
[01:08] <Bray90820> lordcirth: So where should I go from here?
[01:08] <lordcirth> Bray90820, I don't know
[01:31] <glitchd> how can i get synergy to start before login so i can use the keyboard from the host machine to login on the guest?
[01:31] <Phase> lordcirth: ProxyCommand was indeed the solution to my ssh_config troubles. Here's a working example solution: http://pastebin.com/BySUFTnG
[01:31] <Phase> (uses netcat, but I'm okay with that.)
[01:32] <kenrin> glitchd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[01:35] <lordcirth> Phase, wait, netcat inside ssh or outside?
[01:35] <Phase> inside
[01:36] <Phase> actually
[01:36] <Phase> scratch netcat
[01:36] <Phase> I found a better solution
[01:36] <Phase> ssh -W
[01:36] <elo> ?
[01:37] <lordcirth> Phase, oh, that looks interesting
[01:38] <Phase> mhm
[01:38] <hurub01> hello
[01:38] <hurub01> i mistyped my password like a moron how can i get my password?
[01:39] <lordcirth> hurub01, you mean you don't have your Ubuntu password?
[01:39] <hurub01> i have my password
[01:39] <hurub01> i had to type the password a few times to log in
[01:40] <hurub01> then i tried installing a new program and i typed my password slower and correctly to realize that i mistyped it =*(
[01:40] <hurub01> i got past the login screen after a few password tries
[01:40] <lordcirth> hurub01, you mistyped while logging in, or while setting it the first time?
[01:40] <hurub01> while setting it for the first time
[01:40] <hurub01> i'm still logged in
[01:40] <Bashing-om> hurub01: reset your password -> www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[01:41] <hurub01> thank you so much Bashing-om
[01:41] <lordcirth> hurub01, just go to Users and Groups and change it, or 'passwd'
[01:42] <Bashing-om> hurub01: ^ easier as lordcirth advises :)
[01:44] <hurub01> dependency failed on swap
[01:44] <hurub01> dependency failed for* swap
[01:45] <lordcirth> you only need the reset instructions if you don't have the current password
[01:45] <hurub01> okay, it said that because i didn't enter the smae password twice
[01:45] <hurub01> same
[01:45] <hurub01> wow i can't type today, i'm so sorry thank you for all the help
[01:49] <magicmanz> has anyone ever setup luks using lvm partitions on two different drives?
[02:14] <bubbely> "The grub-ei-ia32" package failed to install into /target/ without the grub bootloader, the installed system will not boot
[02:14] <bubbely> help.
[02:19] <usr13> !boot-repair | bubbely
[02:20] <usr13> !bootrepair | bubbely
[02:21] <OerHeks> not grub-ei-ia32 but grub-efi-ia32, read carefull https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[02:21] <OerHeks> ...
[02:22] <bubbely> u told me to put bootia32.efi in my boot folder and i did... what are u suggesting OerHeks
[02:23] <OerHeks> no i told you nothing, you came up with this guide ..
[02:23] <OerHeks> i said: sue your vendor to give a 64 bit uefi if your cpu is capable
[02:24] <OerHeks> but ei > efi is clearly a typo
[02:24] <magicmanz> how is 16.10? anyone running it yet?
[02:25] <OerHeks> some have benefit with newer kernl for newer hardware, else i would stay on 16.04 LTS
[02:25] <GeekDude> I'm having a strange issue with dnsmasq where it occasionally uses 100% cpu and queries the same address hundreds of times per second. I've installed the full dnsmasq package. If I run `sudo service dnsmasq stop` my computer stops spamming the upstream DNS server. If I later start it again, it goes back to using 100% cpu and hammering the upstream DNS server.
[02:26] <lordcirth> GeekDude, do the logs say anything?
[02:28] <GeekDude> Which logs specifically? The logs of the upstream DNS server has about 5.7 gigabytes of "query[SOA] local from 192.168.1.100"
[02:28] <Bray90820> So i have been installing ubuntu 16.10 over and over again for about the past month and the audio has been fine but now all of the sudden on the live disc it says dummy output
[02:28] <GeekDude> where my local machine is 192.168.1.100
[02:28] <Bray90820> Sorry to ask yet again
[02:29] <lordcirth> Bray90820, have you tried 16.04?
[02:29] <Bray90820> lordcirth: when I first got the tablet yes
[02:29] <lordcirth> Bray90820, have you tried it since it stopped working?
[02:30] <bubbely> oh, Bray helped me, not u oerheks =p
[02:30] <bubbely> Bray, "The grub-ei-ia32" package failed to install into /target/ without the grub bootloader, the installed system will not boot
[02:31] <Bray90820> I have not
[02:31] <Bray90820> I was just about to do that after you suggested it
[02:31] <Bray90820> lordcirth:
[02:33] <bubbely> Bray90820: any ideas?
[02:33] <Bray90820> bubbely: What do you mean?
[02:42] <bubbely> Bray90820: "The grub-ei-ia32" package failed to install into /target/ without the grub bootloader, the installed system will not boot... i get this msg, u helped me earlier with the .efi file, any suggestiosn?
[02:42] <Bray90820> bubbely: Do you have wifi turned on?
[02:42] <bubbely> no
[02:43] <Bray90820> And connected to a networkTurn wifi on connect to a network and all should be good
[02:43] <Bray90820> Turn wifi on connect to a network and all should be good
[02:44] <bubbely> turn it on in system settings?
[02:48] <bubbely> Bray90820?
[02:48] <Bray90820> When you install ubuntu make sure you are connect to the internet
[02:48] <Bray90820> bubbely:
[02:51] <bubbely> Bray90820: Im having some trouble here, I enter the settings and there is no WiFi option, no list of available networks etc
[02:51] <Bray90820> What device do you have?
[02:53] <bubbely> asus x205t
[02:54] <bubbely> I might haev found my answer
[02:54] <bubbely> one moment
[02:55] <bubbely> where can i find terminal in the try ubuntu wihtout installing?
[02:55] <bubbely> nm
[02:58] <Bray90820> So did you get your issue figured out?
[03:05] <ericx2x> hey
[03:12] <Bray90820> bubbely: You good?
[03:12] <bubbely> installing with wifi enabled, let u know in a bit
[03:12] <foul_owl> Hi folks. I'm getting sick of typing "& disown; exit" after each gui process I invoke via the cli. (ie, inkscape, steam, etc) Is there some way to alias that to a symbol in bash? I would prefer to condense that all down to one character if possible. Prefer to not make a new alias for every gui process I invoke. Thoughts? Thanks!
[03:13] <Bray90820> bubbely: Yeah you should be good
[03:21] <JohnMcClain> I am running a command with PHP's exec() on Ubuntu, pdflatex... Sometimes it takes time. Is there a way to wait until the command is finished before running the next exec() command, convert?
[03:25] <anuraggoelkkc> j
[03:28] <Bray90820> lordcirth: as suspected no audio there ether but that's just a kernel issue
[03:29] <hector> Hi
[03:31] <stacks88> trying to do unattended upgrades on ubuntu 16.04.. i did the dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low unattended-upgrades , but i notice in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, the first line after Allowed-Origins { is: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}"; -- thats it.. Is that normal? this is what it looks like on ubuntu 14.04: http://i.imgur.com/D19ho2P.png (which looks more normal) but on ubuntu
[03:31] <stacks88> 16.04, http://i.imgur.com/ZYTsfbq.png ?? should i just ignore that line ?
[03:31] <stacks88> and what would that line mean?
[03:31] <hector> Hi
[03:33] <hector> Ppl, i have a little little problem
[03:33] <hector> Thats a channel related to Lubuntu questions_
[03:33] <hector> ?
[03:33] <hector> Well, i've installed Lubuntu 16.04.1, but now the computer can't recognize the WIFI card.
[03:34] <lordcirth> hector, is it enabled in hardware?  Was Windows on it previously?
[03:36] <hector> Yes, was Windows on this computer previously (W7 Home Premium SP1), i'm connected by an external wifi card now.
[03:37] <Sir_Andrei> Hi girls!
[03:38] <lordcirth> hector, ah, 7 shouldn't have caused the locking problem I was thinking of, then
[03:39] <lordcirth> hector, did you look up the card model?
[03:40] <hector`> Yes, here i have it
[03:40] <hector`>  producto: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[03:41] <hector`> fabricante: Broadcom Corporation
[03:42] <hector`> Oh..., http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[03:43] <brandon19993078> hola
[03:43] <doghackit_> Does anyone know if there is a way to make mysql a virtual package?
[03:43] <brandon19993078> hi
[03:43] <hector`> Hola brandon19993078
[03:44] <brandon19993078> de donde son
[03:44] <hector`> Aca hablamos ingles trolazo, en caso de no hacerlo te mandan a la mierda (Here we speak english...)
[03:44] <brandon19993078> ok
[03:44] <Bray90820> Is there any difference between the kernel found in ubuntu unity and ubuntu genome
[03:44] <doghackit_> I would like MariaDB to satisfy dependencies on MySQL
[03:45] <hector`> 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[03:45] <hector`> That's my network controller
[03:46] <lordcirth> doghackit_, mariadb says: Provides: virtual-mysql-server
[03:49] <Vysty> Hi! I'm trying to get a monitor to the resolution I want using xrandr commands in the Terminal, and I suddenly have been getting errors. Can anyone help walk me through figuring this out?
[03:50] <Vysty> Anyone kicking around here?
[03:50] <glitchd> yep
[03:50] <Vysty> Look who just walked in.
[03:50] <Vysty> I'll re-pose my question.
[03:50] <Vysty> Hi! I'm trying to get a monitor to the resolution I want using xrandr commands in the Terminal, and I suddenly have been getting errors. Can anyone help walk me through figuring this out?
[03:50] <glitchd> kickin babies
[03:50] <glitchd> i could try but no promises
[03:51] <glitchd> does the monitor support the suggest resolution?
[03:51] <Vysty> Yea, I was using it all the time before I upgraded.
[03:51] <Vysty> and even after the upgrade it worked for a brief period of time. Now I'm getting errors.
[03:52] <glitchd> if your not super comfortable with command line, you can search for arandr(i believe thats the name) its a graphical frontend to xrandr
[03:52] <glitchd> what are the errors?
[03:53] <Vysty> This is what I ran before to have it work: cvt 1680 1050 --> xrandr --newmode "x" <cvt output> --> xrandr --addmode HDMI-0 x
[03:53] <glitchd> errors
[03:53] <glitchd> ?
[03:53] <Vysty> http://pastebin.com/dJkQTj57
[03:53] <glitchd> is the x after newmode supposed to be X
[03:54] <Vysty> x is the name I make up for it.
[03:54] <Vysty> It can be whatever I want.
[03:54] <glitchd> oh
[03:54] <glitchd> lol ok
[03:54] <Vysty> I have to do it every time I restart the computer, so I made it simple.
[03:54] <glitchd> well do the names match when u use the command?
[03:54] <Vysty> Yup.
[03:54] <Vysty> Like I said, I've done this for years and now it suddenly procuded errors.
[03:55] <glitchd> have you gotten it to work at all since the upgrade?
[03:55] <Vysty> Yes.
[03:55] <Vysty> It worked for a brief time then the errors started.
[03:55] <glitchd> maybe there is a process hanging in the background causing the errors now
[03:56] <glitchd> like a zombied xrandr
[03:56] <glitchd> ps -A | grep xrandr
[03:56] <glitchd> run that
[03:56] <Vysty> Done.
[03:57] <glitchd> anything enlightening pop up?
[03:57] <Vysty> Nothing at all.
[03:57] <Vysty> Not just nothing enlightening, literally nothing.
[03:58] <glitchd> mmk
[03:58] <glitchd> hmm
[03:58] <glitchd> is xrandr detecting the other display?
[03:59] <Vysty> I dunno. How do I know if it's doing that?
[03:59] <Vysty> Actually, yes, looks like it.
[03:59] <Vysty> I just have nothing to apply to the display.
[04:00] <glitchd> xrandr -q
[04:00] <glitchd> that will show the displays it detects
[04:00] <Vysty> Yup.
[04:00] <Vysty> It's showing.
[04:00] <Vysty> Currently on 1024x768
[04:00] <Vysty> and I want 1680 x 1050
[04:02] <glitchd> check your xorg.conf under the section display and see if that resolution is listed
[04:02] <Vysty> How do I check that?
[04:03] <glitchd> what version of ubuntu are u in again?
[04:03] <Vysty> 16.04
[04:03] <angrycoast> test
[04:03] <Vysty> test test!
[04:04] <glitchd> should be in /etc/X11
[04:04] <glitchd> no test!
[04:04] <glitchd> prize!
[04:04] <Vysty> How do I view it via the Terminal?
[04:05] <angrycoast> test
[04:05] <kostkon> !test
[04:05] <Sorch> it works!
[04:05] <angrycoast> ITS ALIVE!!!!
[04:06] <glitchd> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:06] <angrycoast> just upgraded to 16
[04:06] <Sorch> how are you liking it?
[04:06] <Vysty> Found the folder. Not Seeing it in here.
[04:07] <glitchd> lol me either
[04:07] <glitchd> lemme figure this out
[04:07] <glitchd> 1 min
[04:08] <Vysty> While you're looking at that, think about this as well: none of my data was deleted during the upgrade, but it's all not in the right spot.
[04:10] <glitchd> tip for the future- avoid in place upgrades. try to do fresh installs instead. it eliminates alot of these stupid problems.
[04:11] <Vysty> You know, I'm thinking of doing that.
[04:11] <Vysty> Just doing another backup right now and formatting the whole damn thing.
[04:12] <glitchd> Vysty, im gonna pm you so i dont have to paste a large chunk of data in here and make people peepee their panties
[04:12] <Vysty> I want people to peepee their panties, though.
[04:12] <witeshark43> CVE-2016-4484 - comments?
[04:12] <angrycoast> I just upgraded to 16.04 and now when I right click the top of a window it minimizes it, how do I get it to be a drop down window again
[04:12] <angrycoast> I'm tring to do the "Always on top" option
[04:12] <witeshark43> angrycoast, what pc?
[04:13] <glitchd> witeshark43, Cryptsetup Initrd root Shell
[04:14] <witeshark43> glitchd, yes, yes
[04:14] <witeshark43> nothing more to say>
[04:14] <witeshark43> ?
[04:14] <glitchd> witeshark43, so u like to hold the enter key for a long time huh?
[04:15] <stacks88> trying to do unattended upgrades on ubuntu 16.04.. i did the dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low unattended-upgrades , but i notice in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, the first line after Allowed-Origins { is: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}"; -- thats it.. Is that normal? this is what it looks like on ubuntu 14.04: http://i.imgur.com/D19ho2P.png (which looks more normal) but on ubuntu
[04:15] <stacks88> 16.04, http://i.imgur.com/ZYTsfbq.png ?? should i just ignore that line ?
[04:15] <witeshark43> glitchd, NOPE, but i was phishing for some kernel update expectations
[04:16] <lordcirth> stacks88, where is this printing?
[04:16] <witeshark43> everyone knows it's not really a serious issue
[04:16] <kostkon> witeshark43, it needs physical access to work. anyway, looks like is on low priority right now https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-4484.html
[04:18] <stacks88> lordcirth I am not sure what you're talking about.. Where is *what* printing, and printing what???? What does printing have to do with this
[04:18] <witeshark43> kostkon, there we go - TY that's the reply i was seeking! :)
[04:18] <kostkon> witeshark43, np
[04:18] <witeshark43> and yes, i am aware of the computer proximity necessity :)
[04:18] <Bashing-om> stacks88: From mine : Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins { >> "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}";
[04:19] <stacks88> Bashing-om: It sounds like you're saying, you have the same line as i do, i dont doubt that, i am sure everyone does, but im just unsure what that line is suppose to mean.. but i guess ill just consider it normal, i guess
[04:19] <azizLIGHT> when will ubuntu 14.04 get firefox 50?
[04:19] <kostkon> witeshark43, proximity and enough time to press enter so many times
[04:20] <amber_> hey i'm having this weird problem in firefox *and* chrome where a lot of HTTPS pages that work for everyone else, always give me the "this page is insecure/invalid cert" page
[04:20] <lordcirth> stacks88, sorry, I did not see your other post
[04:21] <lordcirth> amber_, is your clock accurate?
[04:21] <amber_> lordcirth, hella accurate
[04:22] <witeshark43> kostkon, yup
[04:23] <scwizard> what's the simpliest way to set up dnscaching?
[04:23] <scwizard> dnsmasq does a lot of other stuff
[04:24] <lordcirth> amber_, View Certificate and see if you can get more info
[04:25] <LinuxNovice> hi, can anyone explain to me how to install Mate DE on my Lubuntu Yakkety Yak?
[04:26] <scwizard> actually pdns recursor should be straightforward
[04:27] <amber_> lordcirth, "there are issues with the site's certificate chain (net::ERR_CERTIFICATE_TRANSPARENCY_REQUIR"
[04:28] <lordcirth> amber_, that should be a non-fatal error
[04:29] <troy_16bit> Hello World
[04:30] <Bashing-om> !info mate-desktop | LinuxNovice
[04:30] <lordcirth> amber_, can you give an example page that doesn't work for you?
[04:31] <amber_> lordcirth, https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.7/css/bootstrap.min.css
[04:33] <lordcirth> amber_, yep, looks fine.  Are you running a browser beta or anything like that?
[04:33] <amber_> Nope.
[04:34] <amber_> Someone once suggested that some certificate authority may not be in my local... something file
[04:34] <amber_> i can't remember what that was
[04:43] <brandon19993078> hi
[04:43] <brandon19993078> esto que es
[04:44] <brandon19993078> parece un chat de la deep web jaja
[04:45] <reisio> jaja
[04:45] <brandon19993078> hablen
[04:48] <witeshark43> oh BTW everyone, i have a win PC just to see
[04:49] <blue-cheese> to see what
[04:49] <qwerzxcj> Lol
[04:49] <reisio> with his eyes, duh
[04:49] <witeshark43> to start: if that OS had any security, it would actually be quite cool
[04:49] <witeshark43> reisio, yes!
[04:50] <witeshark43> well it's getting late - night everyone!
[04:50] <blue-cheese> nite nite
[04:50] <reisio> not sure I can think of anything in Windows I like once you're able to compare it to any alternative
[04:51] <blue-cheese> I did like windows movie maker
[04:51] <witeshark43> reisio, just the graphics really
[04:51] <witeshark43> nite!~
[04:53] <brandon19993078> hi
[04:54] <reisio> hi
[04:54] <brandon19993078> where are u from?
[04:56] <glitchd> earth
[04:56] <brandon19993078> fuck
[04:56] <brandon19993078> I am from the moon
[04:57] <Vysty> Cheap real estate up there.
[04:57] <Vysty> Solar power is up but not much else.
[04:57] <brandon19993078> wtf is this
[04:57] <Vysty> Too many regulations on the books to take advantage of the helium isotopes good for fusion fuel.
[04:58] <brandon19993078> who knows a very good chat?
[04:58] <Vysty> Dunno, but this place is to help people with Ubuntu.
[04:58] <kostkon> !alis
[04:59] <brandon19993078> how can I enter in dunno?
[04:59] <Vysty> I'm trying to change my 2nd monitor resolution using xrandr commands in the terminal and I've suddenly been getting error messages. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[04:59] <Vysty> brandon: /join #dunno
[05:01] <irv> is there a way to do-release-upgrade from vivid to xenial? or will i be doing a fresh install? it's a unifi controller so probably pretty easy to backup, etc
[05:02] <PsyMar_Linux> is there a way to make the list of users appear on the right side all the time in xchat like it does in other chat clients I'm used to
[05:04] <reisio> #hexchat would know
[05:04] <reisio> can't say I ever found a use for the user list, I always hid it
[05:05] <Jordan_U> irv: It's possible to dist upgrade, doing one upgrade to 15.10 then another from 15.10 to 16.04, but it's probably easier to just re-install. (also, all three releases are EOL, the upgrade process has extra steps).
[05:05] <kostkon> PsyMar_Linux: are you using xchat-gnome?
[05:05] <PsyMar_Linux> yes, is there a way to get a normal xchat in ubuntu?
[05:05] <PsyMar_Linux> I tried apt-get install xchat but got nothing
[05:06] <Jordan_U> !info hexchat | PsyMar_Linux
[05:06] <kostkon> PsyMar_Linux: it's he chat now
[05:06] <PsyMar_Linux> ah
[05:08] <PsyMar_Linux> thanks for help, sorry, forgot to thank before I closed it
[05:17] <c1pher> hi do any guys use pcbsd as their daily os
[05:17] <c1pher> ?
[05:18] <c1pher> or bsd related systems as daily os
[05:18] <c1pher> installed for laptop
[05:18] <cfhowlett> c1pher, perhaps you missed the topic when you entered ... ubuntu support.  no doubt bsd has a channel but this ain't it.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> sorry
[05:19] <lulzsec> bsd is stable but doesn't support for new hardware
[05:19] <c1pher> sorry for that
[05:19] <c1pher> i am just curious on this
[05:19] <c1pher> thanks @lulzsec
[05:21] <lulzsec> I was tried bsd, I am build my home server with bsd for remote shell and website
[05:25] <c1pher> @lulzsec great, how was that working?
[05:26] <reisio> you build?
[05:27] <qwerzxcj> Zzz
[05:28] <lulzsec> yes, but just home server. I am keep all my data on there
[05:30] <lulzsec> @c1pher I have old cpu, mini router, and ethernet cable.
[05:30] <lulzsec> @c1pher
[05:31] <pacovc> luks encryption does not wipe keys on shutdown does it?
[05:31] <reisio> from memory?
[05:32] <pacovc> yes on shutdown
[05:32] <reisio> probably not, since things in memory naturally die quite rapidly
[05:32] <reisio> and anybody with physical access to your computer can always break your encryption 100% of the time
[05:32] <reisio> if you want to waste your time with paranoia, though, you could like at "tresor"
[05:32] <pacovc> thats true but some disk encryption has a wipe keys on shutdown feature
[05:33] <neoupdown> hi
[05:33] <Random832> cold boot attacks don't generally involve an ordered shutdown
[05:33] <pacovc> well reisio that scenario is when the computer is booted or will be boot again
[05:34] <pacovc> Radom832 well it could if try to shut it down for the purposes are someone trying to gain access soon after.
[05:34] <Random832> pacovc, ram isn't stable in the long term, and if an attacker has access in the short term they could have just cut the power rathe than let it shut down
[05:34] <pacovc> random832 that is true but I'm talking about when there is a full shutdown
[05:35] <pacovc> your making valid points but I don't see why wiping keys on shutdown would hurt anything
[05:35] <FireStriker> hey all does anyone here know what the system specs for kubuntu is
[05:36] <lulzsec> RAM 1Gb HDD: 16 GB
[05:36] <cfhowlett> FireStriker,LMGTFY       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#System_requirements
[05:37] <reisio> Neotrans: ohai
[05:37] <reisio> pacovc: nobody with a vested interest in circumventing your encryption who also has physical access to your computer will ever be defeated by anything implemented by software
[05:39] <pacovc> reisio, well tell that to DA's who wanted FBI help to get into apple phone's or other cases where a court ordered a password :)
[05:40] <reisio> well, even though you might not think, based on their behavior, that the FBI was bound by the law, it is
[05:40] <reisio> so even though any fool can break most people's "encryption", government agencies often are disallowed
[05:41] <pacovc> well reisio I guess you think the truecrypt audit was a waste of time
[05:42] <reisio> yes, but probably not for the reason you're thinking
[05:42] <pacovc> lol
[05:42] <reisio> truecrypt has a crappy license, which is plenty enough reason to not use it
[05:42] <stan_man_can> Anyone know how to add a private IP on linode? my VPS is running ubuntu 16.04. I went into the VPS and added a private IP to it, but I have no idea how to make ubuntu pick it up
[05:42] <cfhowlett> truecrypt was defunct last I heard.  forked to veracrypt.
[05:42] <pacovc> well the drawbacks and flaws to full disk encryption are widely known
[05:43] <pacovc> yes it was but it was still audited
[05:43] <pacovc> but full disk encryption can work well
[05:43] <pacovc> so I guess the luks wiping keys on shutdown is not happening anything soon lol
[05:44] <reisio> you can do anything you like with open source software
[05:44] <reisio> this particular thing, however, is almost certainly a waste of time
[05:44] <reisio> but hey, some people have time to kill :D
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel guys, perhaps use it?
[05:49] <pacovc> lotuspsychje, I was asking if it had that feature and if so how to use I was not intending it to turn in a converation on whether it was needed or not :)
[05:53] <LinuxNovice> Hi, I am new to Linux can anybody tell me if this Mate DE safe to install? It says the ppa is untrusted. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23488964/
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> pacovc: join #ubuntu-discuss we can discuss it :p
[05:54] <LinuxNovice> https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjv7NeDja_QAhUDW7wKHfWAD3gQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntumaniac.com%2F2016%2F05%2Fmate-1141-desktop-environment-available.html&usg=AFQjCNEXnal-CGCqusLuUC4pEH3RE6WpyQ
[05:54] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, please do not spam random websites
[05:54] <Bashing-om> !info mate-desktop-environment
[05:55] <cfhowlett> linuxvoice   sorry!  now I see the query.
[05:55] <LinuxNovice> I installed the ppa as given in that instruction. Is it safe? Because it says the ppa is untrusted.
[05:56] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, the package is in the repos.  why mess with the ppa?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> LinuxNovice: Looks like an even later version is in the iur software repository .
[05:56] <LinuxNovice> Ok. What should I do now to uninstall it?
[05:56] <LinuxNovice> Even that untrusted ppa.
[05:57] <cfhowlett> !purgeppa | linuxv
[05:57] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | LinuxNovice
[05:58] <LinuxNovice> And please tell me where in the repos can I find the Ubunt Mate DE?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, sudo apt install mate-desktop-environment
[05:58] <LinuxNovice> Ok. Is that enough?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> pacovc: Keys are not wiped from RAM on shutdown by default. You could implement it yourself, but it's not worth it (for reasons we can discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss) and trying to implement it yourself could lead you to accidentally add a new attack vector.
[05:59] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, "enough"?  not sure what that means but you can test it like this:  sudo apt-get install -s mate-desktop-environment              to see what's coming in
[05:59] <FireStriker> whats hapned
[06:02] <FireStriker> is it farly start fword installing a dual boot of ubuntu and win 8 on uefi
[06:03] <LinuxNovice> I installed this ppa by typing this command $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/crazy-mate. Now how can I undo this?
[06:03] <cfhowlett> LinuxNovice, sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[06:04] <owen1> how to upgrade my chromium to the newest version? I am on Version 53.0.2785.143 Built on Ubuntu , running on Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit)
[06:04] <cfhowlett> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html  LinuxNovice
[06:04] <stan_man_can> Linode's docs say "Each Linode has only one virtual ethernet interface, eth0"
[06:04] <blackheart> Microsoft joined the Linux foundation?
[06:04] <blackheart> Has hell finally frozen over?
[06:04] <owen1> blackheart: (:
[06:04] <stan_man_can> does that mean if I configure a static ip it won't appear in ifconfig? all I see is  eth0 with my public up, along with lo
[06:04] <cfhowlett> blackheart, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic not here please.  thank you.
[06:04] <blackheart> cfhowlett, duly noted.
[06:06] <LinuxNovice> Ok. I entered that command and hit enter.
[06:06] <cfhowlett> owen1, sudo apt full-upgrade will do it
[06:07] <FireStriker> can you change the loading screen that shows when the computer starts up/
[06:08] <owen1> cfhowlett: thanks. here is what i see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23488999/
[06:09] <owen1> does it mean i am already at the latest version that comes with ubuntu? that's sad..
[06:09] <LinuxNovice> and please can anybody tell me how to install Ubuntu Mate DE by using GUI?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> owen1, that's the one in the repos alright.
[06:11] <cfhowlett> owen1, wait, what
[06:12] <owen1> cfhowlett: i am having issues accessing a lot of sites. i am getting security errors on some static files. i was told i should upgrade my chromium
[06:12] <cfhowlett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489003/       owen1 I just ran that command and grep'd chromium-browser
[06:13] <cfhowlett> owen1, I'm also on 16.04.1    and chromium ends with .1257   to your .1254 ...
[06:13] <owen1> 53.0.2785.143-0ubuntu0.16.04.1.1254
[06:14] <owen1> maybe i should reply 'y' to the question?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> owen1, so you should have .1257  if my record is corret
[06:14] <cfhowlett> yeah you have to give permission explicitly
[06:15] <FireStriker> Hi, are you able to change the loading screen that shows when the computer starts up/
[06:16] <reisio> FireStriker: yup
[06:19] <owen1> cfhowlett: thanks. i'll try it
[06:19] <cfhowlett> let me know, owen1
[06:22] <jj> hi
[06:23] <FireStriker> what nice DE's that looks nice and is light
[06:23] <reisio> hi jj
[06:23] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, too subjective.  just install them all and chooose for yourself.
[06:23] <reisio> FireStriker: light compared to what
[06:23] <FireStriker> ok
[06:25] <FireStriker> um idk just something that isnt to much of a resorce hog but doesnt compmise anything
[06:25] <FireStriker> so inbetween unity and lightweigh de's
[06:26] <reisio> sounds like you want Xfce
[06:26] <cfhowlett> FireStriker, sudo apt install lxde xfce4     will get you those two DE's.  logout, choose, login.
[06:27] <FireStriker> maybe i dont like how i cnat eject usb's or dvds/cds by dragint them to the bin like ubuntu
[06:27] <reisio> FireStriker: hrmm?
[06:29] <Bashing-om> FireStriker: see: http://www.xfce.org/ .
[06:32] <FireStriker> i have finsihed downloading ubuntu going to install it than be back. it isnt any diffent on uefi as it is on older pc's right
[06:32] <vok`> FireStriker: I had to disable UEFI.
[06:32] <reisio> FireStriker: it frequently is not
[06:33] <CtrlC> Does any of the ubuntu iso files come with a ubuntu user preset after installation?
[06:33] <cfhowlett> CtrlC, OEM install would do that
[06:33] <FireStriker> i can inable legicy but cant disable uefi
[06:33] <reisio> if your system has the option to have its UEFI pretend to be "BIOS", that is almost always going to simplify things; UEFI solves nothing
[06:33] <CtrlC> cfhowlett, Thanks.
[06:33] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[06:33] <FireStriker> how do i check that risio
[06:33] <cfhowlett> happy2help
[06:36] <owen1> cfhowlett: now i have the same version as yours and no more security errors
[06:36] <owen1> thanks
[06:36] <cfhowlett> owen1, :)  happy2help!
[06:36] <owen1> cfhowlett: should i run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure all my packages are up to date?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> owen1, sudo apt full-upgrade or the command you list.  note that apt is the replacement for apt-get    so ... get used to it?
[06:38] <FireStriker> bbl
[06:44] <Blue1> I am trying to use livepatch.  When i try to enable it, it says command not found.  Yet, when I try to install it, it says it's already installed.  What am I doing wrong?
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Blue1, read the man page
[06:45] <Blue1> cfhowlett: there is no man for canonical-livepatch.  I used snap to install it - and the worked correctly.
[06:46] <cfhowlett> Blue1, !  no man page?! that's just ... just ... IDK
[06:46] <cfhowlett> doesn't seem right that there's no documentation
[06:46] <Blue1> Yes, I found that odd.  that was the first thing I thought of.
[06:46] <owen1> cfhowlett: i didn't know about 'apt'!
[06:47] <Blue1> cfhowlett: this is the recipe I am using:  http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html
[06:48] <cfhowlett> Blue1, best you speak with someone with snap knowledge ---  sadly, not me.  sorry.
[06:48] <cfhowlett> owen1, yep it's the coming thing
[06:48] <Blue1> cfhowlett: nor I.  thank you for your time.  much appreciated.
[06:52] <CtrlC> What can be wrong with this command? sudo systemctl enable mongodb  I get this: Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument
[06:53] <cfhowlett> CtrlC, no -dashes?
[06:53] <CtrlC> cfhowlett, where exactly?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> CtrlC, !guessing! -enable
[06:53] <CtrlC> cfhowlett, I don't think so.
[06:54] <cfhowlett> see the man page I see -single and --double     in various places, but I don't know the command well enough to say
[06:54] <CtrlC> cfhowlett, it doesn't have dashes.
[07:14] <TheNH813> My system cannot be powered back on after suspend. It requires a hard power cycle. S3 suspend essentially does not work. How can I set Ubuntu to use S1 suspend state?
[07:15] <TheNH813> FYI S3 suspend causes a crash on Windows as well. Motherboard is VERY new, not a hardware issue. Manufactured February 2016, possibly UEFI bug?
[07:17] <TheNH813> Gigabyte F2A64HM, A64HM Chipset, AMD A4-7300 processor if extra hardware info helps.
[07:21] <TheNH813> Woops, actually F2A68HM-H, A68HM Chipset.
[07:29] <FireStriker> Um
[07:29] <FireStriker> Well I will say what was happening
[07:30] <FireStriker> It was flashing and complaining about a backlight controller
[07:32] <FireStriker> Is that alright?
[07:32] <FireStriker> I'm trying to install xubuntu
[07:35] <Tranquiliz3r> Hello! :|
[07:35] <RatchetTheGamer> Hi
[07:37] <Dynetrekk> hi, I've got a 4 TB btrfs filesystem but "btrfs filesystem df" says its not a btrfs file system. what's up?
[07:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[07:49] <RatchetTheGamer> Hi
[07:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, hi
[07:55] <anirban> How to use hybrid amd/intel graphics cards on ubuntu 16.04?
[07:56] <RatchetTheGamer> How do i change the loading screen
[07:57] <hateball> !amd | anirban
[08:02] <RatchetTheGamer> hateball: do you know How to change the loading screen
[08:03] <FireStriker> Ratchet I know it's possible, but I don't know how to do it, you should probably wait if he knew how he would of told you when he answered the question before yours
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, loading as in boot up? ubuntu is booting
[08:08] <RatchetTheGamer> Yea
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, when you turn computer on?
[08:08] <RatchetTheGamer> The dots
[08:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, ok the theme, but why you want to change that?
[08:10] <RatchetTheGamer> I just don't like to look of it
[08:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, and yes the theme can be changed, the boot up program itself though plymouth no you stay using that
[08:11] <codfection> hi
[08:11] <codfection> should I use tlp or powertop
[08:11] <codfection> for powersaving
[08:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, its been quite awhile since I did it and not with 16.10 but their still should be at least a few plymouth themes in the ubuntu repo
[08:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, however when I last did that, could only really have one installed at a time, for it to actually come up
[08:13] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok
[08:13] <RatchetTheGamer> I'm using 16.04
[08:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, and certain themes woudnt really work and would get the text boot or whatever instead
[08:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, but yeah theres space themes and what not in the repos stilll I think, using the ubuntu hd tablet, so cant just check
[08:15] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok
[08:16] <codfection> why 16.10 is not long term support? It works better than 16.04
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, right well browse the repos for plymouth themes then, installl and re boot, baring in mind that youll have to probably remove the dot theme, or any previously installed one, to have the new one coming up. have fun with that
[08:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !plymouth
[08:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> RatchetTheGamer, not sure about the command from the bot, installing like I put above should work
[08:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> codfection, how does it work better?
[08:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> codfection, its not lts since a lts is every three releases, and so its the first one after the lts
[08:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> codfection, not every or pretty much every release can be lts, since that would take to much to maintain
[08:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, hi
[08:21] <LinuxNovice> Hi..
[08:21] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, hi. How are you?
[08:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I just happen to be here, did you get xubuntu working?
[08:21] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I installed two DEs on my Lubuntu. Xubuntu and Mate.
[08:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> i am ok just a bit cold you?
[08:22] <LinuxNovice> I'm using Mate now..
[08:22] <FireStriker> Hi Seb LinuxNovice
[08:22] <LinuxNovice> I'm good.
[08:23] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, where are you from? Which country?
[08:24] <FireStriker> Is there anyway to make the pops that happen when you change the volume on ubuntu or lubuntu
[08:24] <FireStriker> On xubuntu
[08:24] <codfection> SebastianFlyte, yea I do agree but it has latest stuff
[08:24] <codfection> 16.04 is getting old
[08:24] <anddam> hello, how can I restart sshd in verbose mode and check its output?
[08:25] <codfection> I wonder if 16.10 to 18.04 upgrade will break it in future
[08:25] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, thanx a lot for guiding me in installing Xubuntu DE.
[08:25] <anddam> is it more convenient to manually start the service on a different port? IIRC I read that but I'm not sure what's more practical
[08:26] <anddam> case in point I have a java client failing at starting an ssh tunnel and I remember this being due to some old ciphering java was using, I'd like to check the sshd output for a failed connection and accordingly setup sshd_config
[08:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, back ubuntu tablet issue or something
[08:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, hi
[08:27] <FireStriker> Hi
[08:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, last message I got was where from, England, you?
[08:28] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, no. It was not me.
[08:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, what was not you ?
[08:30] <FireStriker> On the topic of xubuntu is there away way to add the pops when you change the volume on ubuntu or lubuntu
[08:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, the what ?
[08:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, if you want to try some more interfaces etc, next, I would suggest....
[08:31] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489427/, I get this message when I try to update in the Synaptic Package Manager. Could you help me with this?
[08:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, were you from, aready put fo me
[08:32] <LinuxNovice> I have tried Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Mate, Linux Mint.
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, linux mint how ?  you dual booted?
[08:33] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I didn't get you.
[08:33] <FireStriker> Pop pop pop when you turn the volume up or down on ubuntu or lubuntu
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you pu mint on as well ?
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that's it's own os
[08:33] <FireStriker> It's not there in xubuntu
[08:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, no don't know
[08:34] <FireStriker> Ok
[08:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, you could use pavucontrol for adjusting volume, open from terminal. that shoudl work in like everything
[08:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not sure if it's installed by default in ubuntu
[08:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> probably is
[08:35] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, yes. Dual booted.
[08:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Mint you can't just download from the Ubuntu repos so ... right ok you just asnswerd, dual booted ok
[08:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, what did you think of Mint?
[08:36] <LinuxNovice> It's good. Quite impressed with that.
[08:36] <LinuxNovice> I don't know about the technicalities of Linux distros.
[08:37] <FireStriker> How do I install java
[08:37]  * SebthreeBQM10HD wonders what's the point in Mint now really now with a more green theme, and well to run Cinnamon,  oh wait  Cinnamon runs in like every oher distro as well no problem, except for Ubuntu maybe which oddly doesn't seem to have in repos lsat time I looked for it
[08:37] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, which one you prefer.
[08:37] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ??
[08:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, neither UBuntu or Mint currently on the desktop really, altough been running Ubuntu 16.04  for longer than intended on HP lap top since that's not quite set up properly still for various reaons.  on a phone and tablet though, well I am rather impressed wit Ubuntu touch
[08:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Ubuntu is going to get more ineresting again in the next year and a half or so it seems
[08:39] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok.
[08:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, they are working on having the same Ubuntu  with the newer version of the Unity interface and what not to.  running on phone tablet, computer etc.  that's a point if your on 16.10 there's a unity 8 preview session to
[08:40] <FireStriker> How resource heavy is cinnamon
[08:40] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, could you plz look into the above problem I encountered? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489427/
[08:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, not that much I think, but  can you check, is it in ubuntu repos? no ?
[08:41] <FireStriker> Idk install ubuntu now
[08:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> what you on ?
[08:41] <FireStriker> Unity
[08:41] <LinuxNovice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489427/, since I hav a very old laptop, I'm not using Unity.
[08:41] <FireStriker> Live cd btw
[08:42] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I tried Unity, but it was too sluggish on my laptop.
[08:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, your error is to do with repos of some sort
[08:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, as long as things still download and install,  that's fine usually, no problem
[08:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, but somtimes the package manager can break which can be a bit annoying or tricky to sort out depends
[08:43] <ikonia> downloads and installs is not a good thing
[08:43] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, no need to do anything, I guess.
[08:43] <ikonia> as once it's installed -it's installed
[08:43] <ikonia> which means you are installing breakages
[08:44] <FireStriker> Um
[08:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ikonia can probably advice better for your errors.  he has a point though, if you have something installed that's slightly broken or something, then technically you have some kind of breakage I gues
[08:44] <ikonia> you need to trust the sources you are using - a good example is in the error message in the pastebin, you trusted that resource, installed packages and dependencies from that resource, now the package is gone
[08:44] <ikonia> sorry - now the repo is gone
[08:44] <ikonia> leaving the packages on your system unmaintained and in limbo
[08:44] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/7eIabOS.jpg
[08:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ikonia, he's rarther new, but if you could explain to him about the repos in a good way, would be awesome
[08:46] <FireStriker> Nvm hit back and the button allowed me to press it
[08:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, everything t should have gone smoothly or mostly I would have thought though, since all you done is stuck to the offiical repos from what I know
[08:47] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, don't know for sure. Other than that, I don't have any problem.
[08:47] <CapsAdmin> i accidentally installed kde neon (ubuntu 16) in bios mode alongside with windows and i'm trying to fix the grub loader
[08:47] <CapsAdmin> if i manually reinstall grub from a live cd with chroot it works but only legacy mode
[08:47] <Roy> I bought a Xiaomi notebook air 13", first thing I did was remove windows and install Ubuntu Gnome.
[08:47] <Roy> Works great, exept for bumblebee
[08:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, anything from synaptic or  the terminal, when doing sudo apt-get  goes from the offical repos by default
[08:47] <CapsAdmin> i tried to use boot repair but i keep getting errors, i think about device.map being wrong or something
[08:48] <Niel> you know ghostbin?
[08:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, syanptic software centre terminal
[08:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, but sometimes even things from the offical repos for whatever reason, don't quite install properly
[08:49] <CapsAdmin> http://paste2.org/vg2DYJZM
[08:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, the repos where the software downlodads from
[08:49] <CapsAdmin> grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdd1.  Check your device.map.
[08:50] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I don't need to bother about it, then.
[08:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, generally most errors to do with things downloaded from repos, don't matter that much, but sometimes it does, and sometimes there's something that stops other programs/pakages being installd untill its fixed
[08:51] <CapsAdmin> but i think sdd is my usb drive
[08:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I think your mostly ok enough to continue, installing things etc for now, but  bare in mind what I just put
[08:52] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok.
[08:52] <ikonia> if you have installed anything from that repo already - it does matter
[08:52] <ikonia> as those packages will be dead and unmaintained on your system and as such will most likley create breakage later down the line
[08:53] <Roy> CapsAdmin sounds like 4th hard drive, sda, sdb, sdc...
[08:53] <CapsAdmin> Roy, yeah but sdd is the usb drive im using for live CD
[08:53] <CapsAdmin> "CD"
[08:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ikonia, he's installed xubuntu,  mate, and  had lubuntu already, wanted to try differnet interfaces.  I think that's about all that's been installed into that install so far
[08:54] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I think this problem was there in Lubuntu also.
[08:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, which problem ?
[08:54] <ikonia> SebthreeBQM10HD: but where did mate come from - as that mate repo in the error is an extenral one
[08:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh
[08:55] <ikonia> which means all the mate builds and dependencies will have come from an eternal repo that is now dead
[08:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, hw did you install mate /
[08:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ?
[08:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, we did Xubuntu via the offical repos yesterday,  but how did you put on Mate yourself ?
[08:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you shoudn't just add random repos  in from sites etc
[08:56] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, from the mate desktop website. I followed the install instructions for Ubuntu.
[08:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> link ?
[08:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, that explans it probably, they probably given you a  diffenret versibion of mate to the one in offica repos
[08:56] <Roy> CapsAdmin, So, you want to use UEFI now, but you installed your system using bios/legacy mode?
[08:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you should have done something like sudo apt-get intall mate-desktop  to get it from the offical Ubuntu repos, but we didn't get that far
[08:57] <Niel> Roy, UEFI
[08:57] <LinuxNovice> http://wiki.mate-desktop.com/download
[08:57] <CapsAdmin> Roy, yeah
[08:57] <Roy> CapsAdmin, I don't know if grub is all you need fix for that.
[08:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ikonia has a good point then, you could have a mate installed, from a not particuarly supported repo then a unoffiical repo as well
[08:57] <CapsAdmin> Roy, i installed ubuntu in legacy, then windows (which is uefi only afaik) which killed grub lol
[08:58] <CapsAdmin> i could reinstall i guess but i wanna try without doing that
[08:58] <LinuxNovice> how can I check that??
[08:59] <CapsAdmin> aha
[08:59] <Roy> CapsAdmin, UEFI runs efi files to start you're OS. They probably need to be on another small filesystem/efi partition.
[08:59] <CapsAdmin> Roy, so since sdd is the usb drive i removed it and ran boot-repair again
[08:59] <gioco> somebodyuse Ansible for own laptop software and tool?
[08:59] <CapsAdmin> now it's successful
[08:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok that page dons't look good
[08:59] <CapsAdmin> Roy, i think boot-repair makes all of that
[09:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, looks like it provides Mate for older vesiosn of ubuntu even, which one did you go for?
[09:00] <somaReverse> hi, why does ubuntu 14 have this "devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620) "
[09:00] <somaReverse> what does it use for?
[09:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I gues you did things the Windows way,  you get a program from a randm website etc, well the one you hope is the official
[09:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and hope that's ok
[09:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, but the point with Linux is for most programs, you don't need to do that, because Linux has offical repos
[09:01] <Roy> CapsAdmin, I see. Seems like a great tool.
[09:01] <CapsAdmin> lol
[09:01] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok. But, this website is official. Isn't it?
[09:01] <CapsAdmin> Roy, okay that didn't work. it installed grub2 with windows as an entry but i get "invalid signature" when trying to launch wnidows and ubuntu is still in legacy mode
[09:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, repos for the version of the distribution of packages/programs for the version of the  distro you are  using,  and that have gone through quality assurance checks that it's ok
[09:02] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I followed the instructions given in that website.
[09:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, upstream projects sometimes provide thee software for download by adding their repos, but  you usually woudn't do that, since it's not properly for your Linux distro version
[09:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ikonia ping?  hoe would  he remove the Mint packags from that repo ?
[09:03] <Roy> CapsAdmin, The signature might have something to do with secure boot.
[09:03] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, what shall I do now. Is there any problem with this installation?
[09:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ideally should probably remove those mint packages, but I am not  sure the command etc to do that.  then you could install Mate the offical way.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop
[09:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, which mint repo did you add?  they don't mention 16.10 any of those
[09:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jut old versions of ubuntu
[09:05] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, Mint is on a different partition.
[09:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, Mate in Ubuntu I am on about
[09:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I meant mae I put mint by mistak there
[09:06] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I just followed the instructions there in that site
[09:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, if you used that page, which you have to install Mate,  it will have given you old Mate packages, intended for a old version of ubuntu as welll
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, you shoudn't have you used that page really,  that's the point I am trying to make,  but ok your new, so didn't know
[09:07] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I'm utterly clueless.
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, it's  not the end of the world, it' stil mostly ok
[09:07] <antimist> LinuxNovice: What page is it anyway? a bit late into show on my side.
[09:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> antimist, he's installd Mate from the Mate wiki which provides instructions for old versios of ubuntu
[09:08] <LinuxNovice> http://wiki.mate-desktop.com/download
[09:08] <antimist> ah
[09:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> antimist, so ideally now need to remove thos packages, which were giving an error, and install the offical repos way. do you know the command to remove the packages ?
[09:08] <antimist> I did a similar thing with Xfce once, I'm guessing you want to remove them
[09:08] <Bent0> Somehow everynight our MySQL server freezes around the same time at night (00:50). We get some VPN latency notifications before that. I cannot find anything in any of our servers crontabs and cron.d that runs around that time. Is there anywhere else to look?
[09:09] <antimist> LinuxNovice: Have you used Mate on it?
[09:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, generally do not  instal things do not add repos from any webpages,   such as that one or anything else,  unless you really need to for something and know what your doing.   since for examle it's quit rare, but random repos for Linux can contain malicious software
[09:09] <Roy> Is someone around that has any experience with bumblebee(tool for Nvidia Optimus based laptops)
[09:09] <antimist> normally adding a repository does not mean you can install packages unless it specifically for the distro
[09:09] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, by the way how can I remove completely an installed DE??
[09:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I know it's a Windows habit to get programs from websites etc, but most of the time you don't need to do that knd of thing here, since the offical distro repos
[09:10] <antimist> LinuxNovice: is the DE installed?
[09:10] <antimist> oh wait never mind
[09:10] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok.
[09:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I think antimist can help you remove the Mate that you got from the wiki repo
[09:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or hopefully
[09:11] <antimist> SebthreeBQM10HD: let's see
[09:11]  * SebthreeBQM10HD not sure command to do it
[09:11] <LinuxNovice> yes. It is installed. I am working from Mate DE only.
[09:11] <antimist> LinuxNovice: What version of Ubuntu are you on
[09:11] <antimist> ?
[09:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, it might mostly work even, though it was for old Ubuntu, but even so, should remove it really, and go with the offical one from the 16.10 repos
[09:11] <LinuxNovice> antimist, It's 16.10
[09:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> antimist, he was doing diffenret interfacs, s he's got, lubuntu installed, xubuntu, and this mate
[09:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> right now
[09:12] <antimist> cool
[09:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and the base is 16.10 yes
[09:12] <antimist> LinuxNovice: I'm guessing you did something along the lines of "sudo apt-get install mate-desktop-environment"
[09:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or so he  says :d
[09:12] <Roy> MATE is a fork of gnome 2, right?
[09:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> antimist, no he didn't even do that, he added the Mate repo from the wiki page
[09:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Roy, yes
[09:13] <LinuxNovice> antimist, yes. that's what I did.
[09:13] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: what desktop do you want to actually use ?
[09:13] <ikonia> have you made a decision
[09:13] <antimist> LinuxNovice: Give me a sec
[09:14] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Mate.
[09:14] <ikonia> thats not a desktop
[09:14] <ikonia> thats 3 desktops
[09:14] <ikonia> have you made a decision which one you'd like to use
[09:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, he means which one you want to use or mostly
[09:14] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, maybe Xubuntu.
[09:15] <antimist> LinuxNovice: could you do a "dpkg -l | grep mate | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:15] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: ok - my advice to you is, re-install xubuntu 16.04, and use that
[09:15] <antimist> and send the link that you get
[09:15] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: keep it simple, and start clean with no confusion, as I suspect more has happened here than your aware of
[09:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, or maybe, try some more interfacs if still wanting to do that,  then do a re install of the one you want to use properly, after, for a more clean install
[09:15] <antimist> or you could do what ikonia syas
[09:16] <Roy> LinuxNovice, spend more time on research into what you want to do. Don't just follow the first guide you find.
[09:16] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, why not 16.10/
[09:16] <LinuxNovice> ?
[09:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, for any of those desktops it woul still be on 16.10
[09:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that's the base
[09:17] <antimist> well, on my side only reason for 16.04 is because LTS
[09:17] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: because it has a shorter suported window, and if you're still new to linux and learning, you want something that will give you long term support and stability
[09:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh he suggeted 16.04 as well
[09:17] <ikonia> rather than being pushed into more experienced tasks like upgrades and config migrations
[09:17] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, ok
[09:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok use the install you got now as a test system I gues for a bit,  put more interface on if you want.  then once done with that.  that's a good idea.  re install  things,  with Xubuntu 16,04  yes the long term suppport
[09:19] <antimist> I guess, that should be resolved.
[09:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, also there is much more community support  for Ubuntu than Mint.  so keeping around a Mint install as well is probably mostly pointless in your case really for now
[09:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> antimist  for LinuxNovice  to learn at  this early stage, how to remove a de n this case the mate, mght not hurt that much though.  or could skip that I guess, if it's now nothing more than a test  install
[09:21] <Aliebs> Hey, newbie here, why is the "software centre" so extremely slow?
[09:22] <TheNH813> I have a problem with suspend. MY PC will not exit suspend upon pressing the power button, it requires a hard reset. I believe S1 suspend works correctly, so how would I enable it?
[09:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Aliebs, depends
[09:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Aliebs, usaully would work fine enough for most peop;le, but
[09:23] <TheNH813> Is there a parameter to force Linux to use S1 suspend? Changing settings in UEFI config don't have affect.
[09:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you could have a slower Internet cnnection, or it's using vesions of the repos that go a bit slower for you, for example
[09:25] <Aliebs> @sebthreeVQM10HD but?
[09:26] <Aliebs> Oh, sorry missed your last reply.
[09:27] <FireStriker> Um I installed ubuntu and rebooted into win8 no grub
[09:27] <Aliebs> Yeah, my internet's kind of slow, but I've yet to experience anything this slow. Whereas the package manager on mint 18 loaded almost instantaneously here it takes upwards of two minutes.
[09:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Aliebs, dosn't mater he's gone now anyway
[09:32] <LinuxNovice> hi..
[09:33] <FireStriker> Help I can't boot into ubuntu I installed it and it isn't booting into grub just start into win 8
[09:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, hi
[09:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, I nearly left the channel
[09:34] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, that Mate DE got stuck.
[09:34] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, had to manually reboot the system.
[09:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, ok UEFI  boot issue or something  ges
[09:34] <FireStriker> Uefi I think
[09:35] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I want to completely remove that Mate DE from my laptop.
[09:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, can you load up Ubntu from the computer boot options ?
[09:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, indeed, but I don't know the command to.  antimist still around ?
[09:35] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, and it was a bit sluggish also.
[09:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, yes  XFCE or LXDE should work better on  such a old computer really, but Mate should work well enough to
[09:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ikonia  if around, could you maybe help him remove that Mate install from tehir wiki, with their repo, not Ubuntu's ? thanks
[09:37] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, I'm ok with Lubuntu and Xubuntu now.
[09:37] <ikonia> SebthreeBQM10HD: I'd rather he just re-installed
[09:37] <ikonia> lubuntu an xubuntu are two things
[09:38] <ikonia> why do you need two desktops,
[09:38] <ikonia> SebthreeBQM10HD: I suspect there will be more than "just mate"
[09:38] <ikonia> and as it's early days, lets get on 16.04 and start clean from a sane base
[09:39] <ubuntu> hattan
[09:39] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, which one shall I install 16.10 or 16.04?
[09:39] <ubuntu> what?
[09:39] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: my opinion is you will have a better experience from 16.04
[09:39] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, ok
[09:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, ok the  system you got now, is a test system then,  not for proper use.  when you are ready for a proper install.  install xubuntu or lubuntu 16.04.  if you want   anther de later on could install to,  but  ikonia has a point you only really ned one de installed to start with, become more comfortable etc with Linux
[09:40] <LinuxNovice> ok
[09:41] <FireStriker> Idk no boot options have popped up how do I open them ?
[09:41] <Guest26367> can anyone plz help .i m having an issue with my system,while installing ubuntu i accidentally unmounted my hard drive partitions now it is showing 493 GB of inaccessible data and windows is not booting ...i m using ubuntu with bootavle USB.....?????????
[09:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, and 16.04  was relased towards the end of April this year with five months of support,  where as Ubuntu 16.10 was releasd with Unty with five years of support, but other ones  like Lubunu and Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate, only with three years of support.  suppot as in scurity and stability updates.  which one sounds beter to you ?
[09:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> as a newbie
[09:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> LinuxNovice, five years of support not months
[09:42] <EriC^^> Guest26367: ok, calm down, open a terminal and type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[09:43] <Guest26367> ,
[09:43] <LinuxNovice> SebthreeBQM10HD, ok. I understand. I'll choose 16.04.
[09:44] <Guest26367> ok trying
[09:44] <ikonia> SebthreeBQM10HD: 16.10 has 9 months of support/life cycle
[09:44] <ikonia> SebthreeBQM10HD: not 3 years https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[09:45] <FireStriker> SebastianFlyte: I got into the boot monitor and booted grub
[09:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ikonia, I typed some of that by mistake, but I belive the dervatives such as lubuntu and xubuntu in the lts, only get three years of support, instead of five ?
[09:45] <FireStriker> I think I can enter ubuntu
[09:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ikonia, typed some of that wrong by mistake
[09:45] <ikonia> SebthreeBQM10HD: anything that is is in "main" will get the 5 years
[09:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh ok
[09:47] <Guest26367> http://termbin.com/taqo
[09:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, yeah ty to get into ubuntu from the boot options
[09:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, you may have the issue i had on a hp lap top
[09:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> where only windows would boot
[09:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unless  boot options
[09:48] <EriC^^> Guest26367: what does "sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt" do?
[09:49] <FireStriker> Might be this is a hp laptop
[09:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, ok  so  from boot optoins grub came up
[09:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> right ok
[09:50] <Guest26367> ERIC:mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root,
[09:50] <Guest26367>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[09:50] <Guest26367>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:50] <Guest26367>        dmesg | tail or so.
[09:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, it's easy to miss the option in the ubuntu installer on the grub screen
[09:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, bu when that comes up you need to point it to the windows uefi  boot loader
[09:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> also  disable secure boot in the wufi bios altough mght not  need to do thatnow
[09:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, Ubuntu  needs to share/use the Windows  UEFI loader
[09:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or yes only Windows will load up
[09:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no Gub
[09:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker,  on a old system would have said put Grub in the MBR, on a HP lap top with UEFI,  you  go to the options on the Grub screen, and say put the bootloader in the windows uefi,  hop that makes sense
[09:54] <EriC^^> Guest26367: try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:55] <FireStriker> Um
[09:55] <Guest26367> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:55] <Guest26367> Reading package lists... Done
[09:55] <Guest26367> Building dependency tree
[09:55] <Guest26367> Reading state information... Done
[09:55] <Guest26367> E: Unable to locate package testdisk
[09:55] <FireStriker> ...
[09:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, yeah ?
[09:55] <Guest26367> Eric:              ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:55] <Guest26367> Reading package lists... Done
[09:55] <Guest26367> Building dependency tree
[09:55] <Guest26367> Reading state information... Done
[09:55] <Guest26367> E: Unable to locate package testdisk
[09:55] <FireStriker> So what option in grub?
[09:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker,  you'll have to re install Ubuntu as well,  what's what I mean as well
[09:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, don't think there's another way to tell it to use windows uefi boot loader otherwise, or an easy way if such
[09:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, disable secure boot in the uefi bios as well, altough you mght not need to
[09:56] <FireStriker> It didn't have an option like that unless it was under something like do some else
[09:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, the  were to put Grub option, is in the Ubuntu installer
[09:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> secure boo option is in the uefi bios
[09:57] <FireStriker> Secure boot I disable to install 3ed party drive during the install
[09:57] <FireStriker> So that was off
[09:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> what to load up first a usb sick,  or the windows boo lader etc, tje uef bios
[09:57] <EriC^^> Guest26367: sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update
[09:57] <EriC^^> Guest26367: use paste.ubuntu.com for pastes in the future :)
[09:58] <FireStriker> Unfortunately I cant turn off uefi I can only activate legicy that will only run after the uefi has failed
[09:58] <EriC^^> Guest26367: run the sudo commands above, then run sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:58] <FireStriker> Which wouldn't happy
[09:58] <FireStriker> Happened
[09:58] <FireStriker> How do I uninstall ubuntu?
[09:59] <EriC^^> FireStriker: what's your problem?
[09:59] <FireStriker> Grub doesn't load at boot or skips to win 8
[09:59] <EriC^^> FireStriker: which laptop model?
[10:00] <EriC^^> you're using uefi?
[10:00] <FireStriker> Hp pavilion
[10:00] <FireStriker> 2013
[10:00] <EriC^^> aha aha
[10:00] <EriC^^> same here
[10:01] <EriC^^> a g6 to be exact
[10:01] <FireStriker> Modal can be found in windows
[10:01] <EriC^^> uefi?
[10:01] <FireStriker> Rebooting the computer to find out
[10:01] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, reboot the pc press f9
[10:01] <EriC^^> while it's booting, then select ubuntu
[10:02] <tim_> Hey EriC^^ how are you?
[10:02] <EriC^^> tim_: hey, good you?
[10:02] <tim_> @EriC^^ me too. I did the memory test which you suggested. I think the memory is fine
[10:03] <EriC^^> tim_: aha, that's good
[10:03] <FireStriker> Hp pavilion 15-e010ax is the modal rebooting into grub now
[10:03] <EriC^^> tim_: did you check /var/log/syslog for any errors?
[10:04] <tim_> EriC^^: yes :) sadly the freezes still happen. Do you think it is something with my drivers? Not yet, will do that real quick now :)
[10:04] <FireStriker> Ok I'm in ubuntu lol
[10:04] <Guest26367> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update
[10:04] <Guest26367> 'universe' distribution component enabled for all sources.
[10:04] <Guest26367> Ign:1 cdrom://Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719) xenial InRelease
[10:04] <Guest26367> Hit:2 cdrom://Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719) xenial Release
[10:04] <Guest26367> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [94.5 kB]
[10:04] <Guest26367> Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/universe amd64 Packages [59.2 kB]
[10:04] <EriC^^> tim_: maybe, it's hard to guess, maybe the logs will show a little
[10:05] <FireStriker> I was in grub but noced right arrow
[10:05] <FireStriker> No it's flashing g at me
[10:05] <FireStriker> Now *
[10:05] <EriC^^> Guest26367: don't paste here, go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the stuff there and give us the link to the paste at the top of the browser
[10:05] <EriC^^> Guest26367: try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[10:05] <EriC^^> FireStriker: did ubuntu boot properly?
[10:06] <manish_> what is clipit ?
[10:06] <FireStriker> It did
[10:06] <Guest26367> sorry bro...not used to this
[10:06] <FireStriker> Now it's flashing ubuntu at me
[10:06] <FireStriker> It did the first time
[10:06] <EriC^^> FireStriker: you mean the purple screen with the logo?
[10:06] <FireStriker> Yep
[10:06] <EriC^^> Guest26367: no problem :)
[10:07] <FireStriker> It got into ubuntu the first boot but this time I nicked the right arrow in grub and booted ubuntu instead of staying in grub
[10:07] <EriC^^> FireStriker: try pressing esc and see there are any errors or waiting for something
[10:08] <FireStriker> ESC doesn't do anything
[10:08] <Guest26367> ERIC^^:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489783/
[10:08] <EriC^^> FireStriker: try ctrl+alt+del
[10:08] <FireStriker> K
[10:08] <FireStriker> Nope
[10:09] <tim_> EriC^^: It says "Primary output changed from KScreen::Output(Id: 66 ...) to KScreen::Output(Id: 66 ...) . Is that something to worry about?
[10:09] <EriC^^> FireStriker: try holding alt+prntscrn then type S U B slowly
[10:10] <EriC^^> tim_: no, i dont think so
[10:10] <EriC^^> tim_: try to run chrome/firefox from a terminal and leave it open while you use it
[10:10] <mantz>  /exit
[10:11] <FireStriker> It rebooted
[10:11] <EriC^^> Guest26367: ok, type sudo testdisk
[10:11] <EriC^^> Guest26367: i'll be honest i don't know much about lvm, hopefully somebody knows about it and will see your question and can help
[10:12] <EriC^^> there's also ##linux as well
[10:12] <EriC^^> (you can type /join ##linux to get there)
[10:12] <FireStriker> It rebooted on its own EriC^^
[10:12] <FireStriker> I'm in grub now http://i.imgur.com/66BdDom.jpg
[10:12] <tim_> EriC^^: It seems odd, there was a two minute break (probably when it froze and i needed to reset the machine) in the logs. The last logged activity was a network disconnect/connection loss
[10:12] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, great in grub press "e" over ubuntu
[10:12] <FireStriker> Ok
[10:13] <EriC^^> FireStriker: then go down to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ..blablabla.. quiet splash and remove the quiet splash and press ctrl+x
[10:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker,  hi
[10:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, back breifuly had some issues...
[10:14] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/kdUfcbk.jpg
[10:14] <EriC^^> tim_: anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[10:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, the  where to put the boot loader in the Ubuntu installer grub option screen, is an important step
[10:14] <Guest26367> EriC^^:   thanks
[10:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FireStriker, you don't do that, and Grub won't come up by defaul on boot, and yep straigh into windows if not
[10:15] <FireStriker> Just quite splash keep $vt_handoff
[10:15] <EriC^^> Guest26367: in testdisk, press no log, no log, then choose your disk, press Intel, then analyze
[10:16] <EriC^^> SebthreeBQM10HD: it's a uefi firmware issue
[10:16] <EriC^^> i have a laptop that does it as well
[10:16] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yes, remove the quiet splash and keep $vt_handoff
[10:16] <FireStriker> I got in
[10:16] <FireStriker> I'm in the grid
[10:17] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grid?
[10:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maybe I  did a quite splahs something ot not sure now
[10:17] <EriC^^> o
[10:17] <EriC^^> oh login screen
[10:17] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, login then open a terminal
[10:17] <FireStriker> Tron reference
[10:17] <FireStriker> K
[10:17] <tim_> EriC^^: Yes, seems that there are problems with Qt (I think)
[10:18] <FireStriker> Now what EriC^^
[10:18] <tim_> EriC^^: I need to hurry up, or I will miss my classes. Thanks for your help :) See you
[10:19] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:20] <numnum> looking for a terminal based wifi tool to conenct/disconenct from wifi networks
[10:20] <numnum> pls
[10:20] <numnum> :3
[10:20] <FireStriker> Um did that work?
[10:20] <Guest26367> EriC^^:      http://paste.ubuntu.com/23489827/
[10:20] <numnum> ?
[10:21] <EriC^^> numnum: nmcli ?
[10:21] <EriC^^> numnum: nmcli is networkmanager cli
[10:22] <EriC^^> FireStriker: did it give you a link back?
[10:22] <numnum> nmcli?
[10:22] <numnum> cant fidn it
[10:22] <numnum> sudo apt0get?
[10:22] <EriC^^> numnum: sudo apt-get install networkmanager
[10:22] <EriC^^> numnum: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[10:22] <numnum> oh kk
[10:23] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/oz5U9y6.jpg
[10:23] <numnum> i tought the tool name was nmcli
[10:23] <numnum> lol
[10:23] <cryptosam> Hello World!
[10:23] <FireStriker> Typo
[10:24] <EriC^^> Guest26367: when you selected the disk did you have an option for /dev/mapper stuff?
[10:24] <hateball> numnum: it is, but the package name is not nmcli
[10:24] <numnum> kk i ma trying
[10:24] <FireStriker> Still didn't work same error as photo EriC^^
[10:25] <EriC^^> FireStriker: do you have internet access?
[10:25] <FireStriker> No I don't for some reason
[10:25] <EriC^^> FireStriker: np we can use the imgur
[10:25] <FireStriker> I had it during the install
[10:25] <EriC^^> website, it's just a couple of commands
[10:26] <EriC^^> FireStriker: maybe the driver is nonfree, did you select to install the non-free stuff?
[10:26] <FireStriker> Yep
[10:26] <EriC^^> try going to the dash and type drivers
[10:27] <FireStriker> K
[10:27] <FireStriker> Searching
[10:28] <numnum> that nmcli dosnt let me see what networks are available, i need a cli tool to scan, connect,disconnet. from networks
[10:28] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/5X2iiNV.jpg
[10:28] <FireStriker> EriC^^: ^
[10:29] <EriC^^> numnum: "iwlist scan"
[10:29] <romine> how do i get to the chat channel
[10:30] <numnum> thats messy...
[10:30] <numnum> nothing intutive? easy and simple?
[10:30] <elias_a> numnum: My network manager shows available channels.
[10:30] <EriC^^> numnum: nmcli has a list, "nmcli dev wifi list"
[10:30] <EriC^^> it's very pretty too
[10:31] <numnum> elias_a: ?
[10:31] <EriC^^> romine: /join #chat
[10:31] <numnum> EriC^^: i like menus...
[10:31] <FireStriker> Eric do I use the proprietary driver?
[10:31] <EriC^^> romine: /join ##chat
[10:31] <brunch875> ouch, software updater seems to be stuck
[10:32] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yeah
[10:32] <brunch875> should've used apt like I normally do
[10:32] <brunch875> anyone experiencing problems with updates?
[10:32] <EriC^^> brunch875: try pressing on the tiny arrow it
[10:32] <elias_a> numnum: As I said, I'm using 16.04 and Network Manager gives me a list of wlan networks available when I click on the icon.
[10:32] <EriC^^> it opens a terminal showing what it's doing
[10:32] <brunch875> did that t the beginning
[10:32] <FireStriker> I can't
[10:32] <brunch875> now it's grayed out
[10:33] <EriC^^> FireStriker: np, let's focus on the booting issue first
[10:33] <ubuntu__> EriC^^:   u here?
[10:33] <numnum> i dont want n icon, i want a simple tool i can calla nd order around with a few presses of a button
[10:33] <brunch875> last message is "Setting up unattended-upgrades (0.92ubuntu1.1) ...
[10:33] <EriC^^> FireStriker: type "sudo efibootmgr -v" and take a screenshot
[10:33] <EriC^^> ubuntu__: yes
[10:33] <FireStriker> It's not letting me it just switches to do not use this device
[10:35] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/HS0Vhql.jpg
[10:35] <elias_a> numnum: Please elaborate what you need. I don't understand.
[10:36] <FireStriker> That's the photo EriC^^ (http://i.imgur.com/HS0Vhql.jpg)
[10:37] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -A -b 0000
[10:38] <romine> how can i be banned from ##politics?  i just started using ubantu mate
[10:38] <EriC^^> FireStriker: that should set the windows bootloader inactive and ubuntu will boot instead, if you ever remove ubuntu remember to press "f9" when the pc boots to get the menu and boot windows
[10:38] <strcpy_> Hi guys, maybe this article can help someone:
[10:38] <strcpy_> Running OpenBTS with the Nuand bladeRF on Ubuntu (The Definitive and Step by Step Guide) - https://blog.strcpy.info/2016/11/16/running-openbts-with-the-nuand-bladerf-on-ubuntu-the-definitive-guide/
[10:38] <EriC^^> FireStriker: and use a live usb, with efibootmgr installed and reverse the command with "sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0000"
[10:39] <EmptyLives> strcpy_, man, youre promoting yourself
[10:39] <sssmmm> 请问ubuntu图形界面挂了怎么弄
[10:40] <EmptyLives> !chinese
[10:40] <EmptyLives> !korean
[10:40] <EmptyLives> !japanese
[10:40] <FireStriker> Eric http://i.imgur.com/BjRaNls.jpg
[10:40] <sssmmm> thank you
[10:40] <EmptyLives> yw
[10:40] <sssmmm> i known
[10:41] <EmptyLives> man, i feel pretty useful today
[10:41] <kostkon> !cookie | EmptyLives
[10:42] <EmptyLives> well, thank you, ubottu and kostkon
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:42] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, it was disabled (the little * next to it shows the active ones)
[10:42] <EriC^^> FireStriker: try rebooting the pc
[10:43] <FireStriker> Yep worked
[10:43] <FireStriker> Now time for the grub reconfigure and drivers in ubuntu
[10:45] <FireStriker> How do I reorder the OS's in grub? So window is the default
[10:46] <EriC^^> FireStriker: type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[10:46] <FireStriker> In ubuntu?
[10:46] <EriC^^> in another terminal type "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[10:46] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:48] <FireStriker> Loading screen loop aign
[10:48] <ubuntu-user-node> Hello Ubuntu Senpai's! I have a worrysome problem that I would love to get help for. On my computer, it seems, apt-key is broken.
[10:48] <ubuntu-user-node> Running "apt-key -v" simply returns nothing.
[10:48] <ubuntu-user-node> in the terminal.
[10:49] <FireStriker> EriC^^: got that same loading screen loop where it flashes at me
[10:50] <ubuntu-user-node> neither apt-key list or apt-key add or any other command properly shows output in the terminal.
[10:50] <ubuntu-user-node> I did look on information online but can not find anything regarding to that particularily issue.
[10:53] <EriC^^> FireStriker: odd, try the alt+prntscrn S,U,B again
[10:53] <FireStriker> EriC^^:
[10:53] <FireStriker> Oh lol
[10:53] <taliptako> where can i download ubuntu 16.10 updated iso
[10:53] <FireStriker> Nothing
[10:55] <FireStriker> Didn't work
[10:56] <LinuxNovice> hi, can anyone here explain which is better among Lubuntu, Xubuntu or LXLE for old laptops?
[10:57] <FireStriker> I think xubuntu personality
[10:57] <LinuxNovice> What's your opinion on LXLE?
[10:57] <ducasse> LinuxNovice: lxde = lubuntu. i prefer xubuntu when i want a more integrated environment, lubuntu for the least powerful machines.
[10:58] <FireStriker> Better than lubuntu.
[10:58] <FireStriker> EriC^^: that didn't work
[10:59] <LinuxNovice> OK. I have an Acer Travelmate 2420 laptop with 2gb of RAM, 1.8 GHz Intel Celeron M processor.
[10:59] <FireStriker> How old?
[10:59] <LinuxNovice> the laptop is very old, was bought in 2005.
[11:00] <FireStriker> The 2007/8 laptop I have xubuntu on is 1.86/7 ghz with 2gb ram
[11:01] <LinuxNovice> is LXLE as stable as other Ubuntu variants?
[11:01] <EriC^^> !daily | taliptako
[11:02] <FireStriker> WB EriC^^
[11:04] <FireStriker> I think it's a GUI thing
[11:05] <FireStriker> That loading screen
[11:05] <FireStriker> When it pops up it gets stuck you tell it to go away it loads perfectly
[11:07] <FireStriker> I will post my specs when I get back EriC^^
[11:07] <FireStriker> And we can figure out what display problem is causeing this?
[11:11] <brunch875> okay so I killed the software updater since it got stuck
[11:11] <brunch875> now apt reports up to date
[11:11] <brunch875> but also always this error message
[11:11] <brunch875> N: Ignoring file '20auto-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[11:11] <brunch875> should I just rid of that file?
[11:16] <FireStriker>  EriC^^ back what was the commands?
[11:18] <FireStriker> Hi everyone one I want to reorder the grub menus
[11:18] <EriC^^> FireStriker: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[11:19] <EriC^^> i was eating lunch
[11:19] <EriC^^> then grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:21] <EriC^^> FireStriker: open another terminal and type the "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" command
[11:23] <hrvstr> hi can somebody help me out with my screen tearing issues with my Intel GM965/960 GPU? I think i've tried all the guides now and reinstalled 4 times trying diffrent drivers. I
[11:27] <FireStriker> That's alright EriC^^ lol
[11:28] <EriC^^> :D
[11:29] <mapm> hello
[11:30] <mapm> I installed a Lubuntu 16.04 with full disk encryption in a computer, and some day it just started with BusyBox saying (initramfs). I reinstalled the system, and could use it for some days, and then the same thing happened. What could be happening?
[11:30] <EriC^^> mapm: did it give an error before busybox?
[11:32] <FireStriker> Grub not currently installed error message
[11:33] <mapm> EriC^^, no, just after decrypting sda5_crypt it says "BusyBox v1.22.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.22.0-15ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)       Enter 'help' bla bla bla (initramfs)
[11:33] <FireStriker> I think I need to reinstall
[11:34] <FireStriker> How do I swap the boot thing
[11:34] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grub is installed for sure
[11:35] <EriC^^> FireStriker: try "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[11:35] <FireStriker> Ik
[11:35] <EriC^^> not sure why you want to reinstall
[11:36] <EriC^^> mapm: oh
[11:36] <FireStriker> I did that it worked but second command is saying grub isn't installer
[11:36] <FireStriker> Installed
[11:36] <mapm> so, I tried rebooting and the same thing happens... I can access the encrypted system through busybox, though
[11:37] <FireStriker> Also I think I might of bugged something up with the drivers
[11:37] <EriC^^> FireStriker: i think you made a typo in the command
[11:37] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grep not grub
[11:37] <EriC^^> grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:38] <FireStriker> Ok now what
[11:38] <EriC^^> mapm: if you type "exit" in the busybox prompt what happens?
[11:38] <EriC^^> FireStriker: get the name of the windows one
[11:39] <EriC^^> FireStriker: such 'Windows on /dev/sda'
[11:39] <FireStriker> Found it
[11:40] <EriC^^> and put it in GRUB_DEFAULT='Windows on...'
[11:40] <EriC^^> in the editor you have open from the first command
[11:40] <FireStriker> =0 what do I change it to?
[11:41] <EriC^^> GRUB_DEFAULT='Windows on...'
[11:41] <mapm> EriC^^, it says mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such... /proc on /root/proc failed: No such... /init: line 338: cant' opne /root/dev/console: no such... [520.723423] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000200
[11:41] <FireStriker> So Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda2)
[11:42] <FireStriker> Can I change the name to windows 8 by any chance?
[11:42] <mapm> [520.724572] EriC^^, CPU: 1 PID: 1 Comm: init Not tainted 4.4.0-47-generic ~68-Ubuntu
[11:42] <EriC^^> you can, not from there though
[11:42] <FireStriker> K
[11:42] <FireStriker> Will it brake?
[11:42] <EriC^^> FireStriker: you can make your own entry
[11:43] <EriC^^> what do you want to call it?
[11:43] <mapm> [520.72374732] Hardware name: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd 945GCMX-S2/945GCMX-S2/945GCMX-S2, BIOS F4 05/24/2007
[11:43] <EriC^^> mapm: hmm no idea, try to join ##linux and ask, and try asking in a little while here as well
[11:43] <mapm> and then two dmesg lines with 4 hex digits each and then a line with "Call Trace:" and then
[11:44] <mapm> (hex digit) dump_stack+0x63/0x90
[11:44] <EriC^^> mapm: maybe if you add a rootdelay=40 it might help?
[11:44] <mapm> where should I add it?
[11:44] <EriC^^> mapm: try with rootdelay=40 in the grub kernel line
[11:44] <mapm> alright I'll try now
[11:44] <mapm> thanks!
[11:44] <EriC^^> ok
[11:46] <FireStriker> Ok so "Windows 8.1 (on /dev/sda2)"
[11:46] <mapm> so EriC^^ you mean in the grub kernel line, like when you boot the system and grub appears, you press "e" and then you can modify the boot parameters right?
[11:46] <EriC^^> mapm: exactly
[11:46] <EriC^^> FireStriker: you can make it just Windows 8.1 if you want
[11:47] <FireStriker> True but I will keep the rest
[11:47] <EriC^^> ok as you wish
[11:48] <mapm> EriC^^, so, in a particular line? you mentioned kernel, you mean the line with "linux16 /memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0, 115200n8" or one alike?
[11:48] <FireStriker> Ok done I press Ctr X?
[11:48] <geo_> l
[11:48] <EriC^^> mapm: in the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz root=UUID=...
[11:49] <mapm> EriC^^, alright, sorry EriC^^, I pressed "e" in the memtest option in grub. Now I pressed "e" in the Ubuntu option and now I understand what you said
[11:49] <EriC^^> mapm: oh ok
[11:50] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yeah save it
[11:51] <EriC^^> FireStriker: then type grep -A20 "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:51] <FireStriker> Ok drivers
[11:51] <EriC^^> FireStriker: get the whole part that says menuentry Windows.... { blablabla ..... }
[11:51] <mapm> EriC^^, so, to understand it more, rootdelay=40 makes the system wait 40 milliseconds after mounting the root filesystem?
[11:51] <jonah> hi is anyone any good with samba? I can't connect anymore to my samba share with a desktop client. It previously worked but now the client just gives timeout on server... any help appreciated. I've tried with firewall off and the IP is in my hosts allow list in the smb.cnf but still not working...
[11:51] <EriC^^> and copy them and paste them in sudo nano /boot/grub/custom.cfg
[11:51] <FireStriker> Oh
[11:52] <mapm> by the way, the same problem happened now, appending "rootdelay=40" at the end of the linux line
[11:52] <EriC^^> mapm: it think it gives it 40seconds until all the devices are mounted
[11:52] <EriC^^> mapm: does it not mention anything at all?
[11:52] <mapm> EriC^^, nope
[11:52] <EriC^^> mapm: try without "quiet splash" in the kernel line
[11:52] <mapm> EriC^^, alright
[11:53] <EriC^^> maybe put "verbose" instead
[11:53] <EriC^^> mapm: do you have a live usb, maybe if you attempt to chroot to it the problem might appear?
[11:53] <geo_> l
[11:53] <ubuntu> Hattan
[11:54] <FireStriker> So now we have the display driver problem
[11:54] <EriC^^> FireStriker: we're not done with grub yet
[11:55] <FireStriker> Ok
[11:55] <mapm> EriC^^, yes I have a live usb, I have never chrooted before but I could try. But now, without quiet splash, it gives more info from dmesg. I think all is correct for now, now I type the disk password
[11:55] <EriC^^> FireStriker: you only have 1 windows os right?
[11:55] <mapm> EriC^^, ok, now it says some things
[11:56] <EriC^^> mapm: aha
[11:56] <mapm> EriC^^, Error reading block 5775405 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading directory block.
[11:56] <FireStriker> Yea only the one
[11:56] <Pene92> olaaa
[11:57] <alumnado> la cueva de la mora
[11:57] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[11:57] <mapm> EriC^^, /dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-root: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e., without -a or -p options) fsck exited with status code 4 done. Failure: File system check of the root filesystem failed The root filesystem on /dev/mapper/blablabla requires a manual fsck
[11:57] <mapm> alright, I now know what to do (;
[11:57] <Pene92> ll<<
[11:57] <EriC^^> FireStriker: that will stop grub from adding other os than ubuntu to its menu, and windows will have the custom entry to boot it
[11:58] <Pene92> el monte de las animas
[11:58] <Pene92> el ralyo de luna
[11:58] <Pene92> el beso
[11:58] <EriC^^> !pt | Pene92
[11:58] <Pene92> la corza blanca
[11:58] <Pene92> los ojos verdes
[11:58] <alumnado> el beso
[11:58] <FireStriker> Is the custom a new file?
[11:58] <mapm> ubottu, it is spanish not portuguese!
[11:58] <mapm> (:
[11:59] <EriC^^> !sp | Pene92
[11:59] <EriC^^> !spain | Pene92
[11:59] <FireStriker> Um? I'm now confused
[11:59] <EriC^^> mapm: ok boot a live usb and check the hdd health and run a fsck
[12:00] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yes a new file, actually nevermind, type sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:00] <mapm> EriC^^, yes, I can do it from the same busybox it seems
[12:00] <EriC^^> and add the menuentry 'Windows on /dev/sda.....' { ...bla bla bla bla bla }
[12:01] <EriC^^> FireStriker: also change the name to what you put in GRUB_DEFAULT=
[12:01] <FireStriker> Why do I need a shift key like lol
[12:01] <EriC^^> mapm: is it installed on a usb?
[12:01] <FireStriker> Oping the on screen keyboard aign
[12:01] <mapm> EriC^^, ok, it fixed some inodes, now I reboot, let's see what happens!
[12:01] <akik> FireStriker: it's a ubuntu default but you can change it
[12:02] <mapm> EriC^^, no, the same system
[12:02] <EriC^^> i had a lot of trouble with kingston usb, it kept giving fsck errors a lot
[12:02] <EriC^^> oh ok
[12:02] <EriC^^> check the hdd health though with smartctl from smartmontools
[12:02] <EriC^^> smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[12:02] <FireStriker> Ok what do I type
[12:03] <EriC^^> FireStriker: what step are you at?
[12:03] <EriC^^> FireStriker: did you chmod -x os-prober?
[12:04] <FireStriker> Nope no chmod yet
[12:04] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[12:04] <mapm> EriC^^, problem solved, at least for now. I hope the disk corruption is because of a rare solar magnetic flare! Thank you very much for your help
[12:04] <FireStriker> I'm in /etc/grub.d/40_customs
[12:04] <FireStriker> Custom
[12:04] <EriC^^> ok
[12:05] <EriC^^> add the stuff you got earlier at the end of the file
[12:05] <EriC^^> menuentry 'Windows ....' { ...blablabla }
[12:05] <Pene92> hello
[12:06] <EriC^^> hi
[12:06] <Pene92> pusy
[12:06] <Pene92> much
[12:06] <FireStriker> What was the command
[12:07] <ubuntu988> I need help
[12:07] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grep -A20 "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:07] <EriC^^> !details | ubuntu988
[12:08] <ubuntu988> Actually wifi is not working but it is connected
[12:08] <FireStriker> What do I type for the menu entry?
[12:08] <ubuntu988> I installed Nvidia graphics driver previous ly
[12:09] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grep -A20 "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:09] <EriC^^> FireStriker: that gives you a list of stuff
[12:09] <FireStriker> Oh
[12:09] <EriC^^> take the part that says menuentry 'Windows blabla' { blabla }
[12:09] <EriC^^> the { are important
[12:10] <mapm> well gotta go, thank you again and see you around!
[12:10] <ubuntu988> Hey anyone there
[12:10] <EriC^^> mapm: no problem, see you
[12:13] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: the wifi is connected?
[12:13] <ubuntu988> Ino
[12:14] <EriC^^> ?
[12:14] <ubuntu988> It is showing but it's not
[12:14] <FireStriker> Ok
[12:14] <EriC^^> try ping 8.8.8.8
[12:14] <ubuntu988> Ok
[12:14] <EriC^^> FireStriker: done?
[12:14] <ubuntu988> 0% packet loss
[12:15] <EriC^^> so it's working?
[12:15] <EriC^^> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[12:15] <EriC^^> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=1275 ms
[12:15] <EriC^^> --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
[12:15] <EriC^^> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
[12:15] <EriC^^> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1275.102/1275.102/1275.102/0.000 ms
[12:15] <ubuntu988> But internet is not connecting
[12:15] <EriC^^> oops
[12:16] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/b7XVNKR.jpg
[12:16] <gamester> Will Unity 8 support Wayland as well as Mir?
[12:16] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: if you type in the browser 172.217.22.14 does it work?
[12:16] <FireStriker> Is that what I need to type
[12:16] <ubuntu988> Trying
[12:17] <ubuntu988> No not working
[12:17] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yeah no need to type them though just copy and paste them
[12:19] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: try ping google.com does it work?
[12:19] <FireStriker> The /boot/grub/grub.cfg as well
[12:19] <ubuntu988> No it's not working
[12:19] <EriC^^> FireStriker: no, i dont know why you got those, grep doesn't do that here
[12:20] <EriC^^> FireStriker: try "less /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and then scroll down to the part you need and highlight it and copy it
[12:20] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: does 5.39.93.71 in the browser work?
[12:21] <ubuntu988> No
[12:21] <EriC^^> try http://206.190.36.45/
[12:21] <FireStriker> ? So I am in the wrong spot?
[12:21] <ubuntu988> I may have messed up with wifi drivers
[12:21] <ubuntu988> Now please save me
[12:22] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: why do you say that? installing nvidia drivers shouldnt affect the wifi
[12:22] <ubuntu988> That link is also not opening
[12:23] <EriC^^> http://91.189.94.40 works?
[12:23] <EriC^^> the rest had problems
[12:23] <karthy> Hi
[12:23] <ubuntu988> Still not working
[12:23] <FireStriker> EriC^^: am I in the wrong spot?
[12:24] <EriC^^> FireStriker: no, just type "less /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[12:24] <FireStriker> In the terminal
[12:24] <EriC^^> or take the stuff from the grep command and remove the /boot/grub/grub.cfg at the start of each line, whatever it easier for you to do
[12:24] <FireStriker> Or the nano
[12:25] <EriC^^> in the terminal
[12:25] <FireStriker> Do I need the whole thing
[12:25] <EriC^^> you just need menuentry 'Windows ....' { stuff here }
[12:25] <FireStriker> So that photo
[12:25] <FireStriker> 23:16 FireStriker http://i.imgur.com/b7XVNKR.jpg
[12:26] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: open the dash and type drivers and see additional drivers
[12:26] <ubuntu988> Ya
[12:26] <EriC^^> FireStriker: no, in the photo you just need the bottom part, and the rest of it (which isn't showing)
[12:26] <ubuntu988> There it is not showing my currently installed driver
[12:26] <EriC^^> all of what's after menuentry 'Windows ..... til the }
[12:27] <ubuntu988> Eric bye
[12:27] <ubuntu988> It didn't solve my problem
[12:27] <EriC^^> ubuntu988: ok, try lspci -knn
[12:28] <gamester> Do we know how Wayland programs will work on Unity 8?
[12:29] <FireStriker> Square brackets
[12:29] <EriC^^> FireStriker: the paranthesis
[12:30] <EriC^^> FireStriker: the curly brackets
[12:31] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/msZfn43.jpg
[12:33] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yes, those are the start of it
[12:33] <EriC^^> it ends at chainloader ....bootmgfw.efi }
[12:33] <EriC^^> around the middle of the screen
[12:34] <EriC^^> why did grep act that way though
[12:34] <FireStriker> Can I tell it to not do the c^ thing
[12:34] <FireStriker> So I can copy it
[12:34] <FireStriker> And not have it move on me
[12:34] <EriC^^> FireStriker: press shift+ctrl+c
[12:35] <EriC^^> FireStriker: or highlight it and in the other terminal press middle mouse or left+right click to paste
[12:35] <ducasse> gamester: afaik, mir has no support for wayland programs, but the devs have stolen so much code from wayland they might work by accident ;)
[12:36] <usr13> To paste into terminal it is Shift-Ctrl-v
[12:36] <usr13> To copy:  Shift-Ctrl-c
[12:37] <usr13> and if you've just highlighted, you would use Shift-Middle-Mouse-Button
[12:40] <FireStriker> Ok think it's done
[12:40] <FireStriker> Is this about right
[12:40] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/gNnfw5l.jpg
[12:41] <paraxor> my coworker let apt-get upgrade hang on a prompt for 4 months. then somebody deleted the lock and installed something
[12:42] <paraxor> now apt-get segfaults randomy
[12:42] <paraxor> randomly*
[12:42] <paraxor> what should I do...?
[12:42] <usr13> sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <usr13> sudo apt-get -f install
[12:42] <paraxor> yeah I was able to run update
[12:42] <usr13> etc. etc. etc.
[12:42] <paraxor> but it usually segfaults on installs
[12:43] <paraxor> or if I try to run upgrade again
[12:44] <FireStriker> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/gNnfw5l.jpg is this about right?
[12:44] <usr13> dpkg --configure -a  or maybe dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a
[12:45] <paraxor> usr13: doing that now
[12:45] <EriC^^> dont run dpkg-reconfigure with -a
[12:45] <EriC^^> it will try to reconfigure the whole system i think
[12:46] <EriC^^> FireStriker: yes, great
[12:46] <EriC^^> FireStriker: rename it as you put in GRUB_DEFAULT
[12:46] <FireStriker> What do I rename?
[12:46] <usr13> paraxor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1445436
[12:47] <EriC^^> FireStriker: the part that has menuentry 'Windows boot manager ...'
[12:47] <FireStriker> Just the one line
[12:47] <usr13> paraxor: See what EriC^^ said
[12:47] <FireStriker> Ok now what I think is done but idk lol
[12:48] <FireStriker> Thanks for the help btw EriC^^
[12:49] <EriC^^> FireStriker: np, ok last step on grub
[12:50] <EriC^^> type sudo update-grub
[12:50] <FireStriker> Ok
[12:50] <FireStriker> Um no network
[12:50] <FireStriker> Drivers broke after install I would guess
[12:50] <FireStriker> But I was connected durning the install
[12:51] <EriC^^> ok, can you test out if grub is working correctly first though?
[12:51] <FireStriker> By restating?
[12:51] <EriC^^> yeah, try to restart and see if windows is there and default and stuff
[12:51] <FireStriker> k
[12:51] <EriC^^> did you run sudo update-grub ?
[12:52] <splashing> lost everything now
[12:53] <uddane> hey guys, on 16.04 and I'm getting errors on certain repositories when updating... I tried disabling the repositories, but it's still failing. I am getting the normal security updates, but the failing repositories are for things like watching blu-ray discs
[12:54] <FireStriker> Ok grub works but as I haven't changed the name of the windows boot it hasn't done anything
[12:54] <EriC^^> FireStriker: i dont follow
[12:54] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[12:55] <FireStriker> The thing was called Windows boot manager
[12:55] <FireStriker> Oh wait I added it right
[12:55] <FireStriker> Lol
[12:56] <EriC^^> did you run sudo update-grub?
[12:56] <FireStriker> Nope lol
[12:57] <max3> where can i check why a process got a sigkill from the kernel? is it /var/log/syslog?
[12:57] <FireStriker> Syntax error
[12:58] <EriC^^> FireStriker: screenshot the error
[12:58] <FireStriker> Found it
[12:59] <FireStriker> It does t like the name
[12:59] <FireStriker> Need to remove the brackets
[12:59] <lordcirth> uddane, well, what are the error messages?  Pastebin if it's long
[13:01] <uddane> lordcirth: ppa.launchpad.net/mjblenner/ppa-hal/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg: Signature by key 2593A4E4DD279EB5D3351B2C61BC8B25BF7B8DAF uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1), E:Failed to fetch
[13:01] <Roy> Someone around here who can help me with a nvidia/glx/bumblebee/primus problem?
[13:02] <lordcirth> uddane, well there you go.  Your ppa is using SHA1 and is thus not trusted.  Look at the docs for the ppa, or contact the owner and let him know.
[13:02] <lordcirth> !ask | Roy
[13:02] <uddane> lordcirth: thanks  :-( was hoping for a fix
[13:06] <alakx> Hello! How can i make my ubuntu 16.04.1 working with UEFI boot?
[13:08] <FireStriker> EriC^^:   http://i.imgur.com/vswLYTb.jpg
[13:08] <uddane> lordcirth: wow, looked up the owner of the ppa an his page says he's not an active member of any Launchpad teams
[13:09] <uddane> lordcirth: so I'm probably SOL
[13:09] <Roy> !patient
[13:10] <Roy> !patience
[13:10] <EriC^^> FireStriker: type "cat /etc/default/grub" and take a screenshot
[13:10] <Sonderblade> how do you get terminus to work in 16.04? i have it installed but can't choose the font in dialogs. i could in 15.10
[13:12] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/5PdUZjq.jpg EriC^^
[13:13] <lordcirth> alakx, bootstrap/3.3.7/css/bootstrap.min.css
[13:13] <lordcirth> alakx, oops, wrong paste: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[13:15] <Roy> When I try to start an application using primusrun / optirun, I get this error: primus: fatal: Bumblebee daemon reported: error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
[13:15] <EriC^^> FireStriker: use single quotes in GRUB_DEFAUL='Windows 8.1'
[13:16] <FireStriker> K
[13:16] <Roy> In my Xorg log, there is an other error as well: [   539.479] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/nvidia-367/xorg/libglx.so: libnvidia-tls.so.367.57: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:16] <FireStriker> What about the other nano
[13:17] <Roy> my user has the video groep added, and the files mentioned exist in the folders that are configured in bumblebee config: Nvidia driver version: 367.57, ubuntu gnome 16.04
[13:17] <FireStriker> 40_custom
[13:18] <FireStriker> Do I need the quotes wouldn't think so now I think of it
[13:18] <hhee> hey!
[13:18] <FireStriker> It worked this time
[13:18] <hhee> guys which way i need to use in ubuntu to launch program with hotkeys?
[13:18] <hhee> launch or focus if already running
[13:19] <FireStriker> Win 8.1 bottom of it but meh but I was first one highlighted
[13:20] <FireStriker> I need to go to bed but next is the driver issues
[13:21] <FireStriker> Thanks EriC^^
[13:21] <EriC^^> FireStriker: what did you mean about the quotes in nano?
[13:21] <EriC^^> FireStriker: sure
[13:21] <FireStriker> Nvm lol
[13:22] <EriC^^> FireStriker: grub's working fine?
[13:22] <FireStriker> Yep
[13:22] <EriC^^> window's there and default?
[13:22] <FireStriker> Yep
[13:22] <devkort> Bonjour quand je génère mon paquet .deb j'ai cette erreur: bash: /usr/bin/ouifind : /usr/bin/bash : mauvais interpréteur: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[13:22] <EriC^^> FireStriker: ok cool :)
[13:22] <FireStriker> Windows was first highlighted
[13:22] <EriC^^> !fr | devkort
[13:23] <EriC^^> FireStriker: you want it at the top as well?
[13:23] <FireStriker> But was at bottom of list but meh I can't be bothered
[13:23] <EriC^^> it' doable
[13:23] <FireStriker> It's alright at bottoms
[13:23] <EriC^^> ok, maybe next time
[13:23] <FireStriker> Night (or afternoon where you are) EriC^^
[13:24] <EriC^^> thank you, you too
[13:26] <devkort> Hello when I generate my .deb package I have this error  bash: /usr/bin/ouifind : /usr/bin/bash : mauvais interpréteur: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type   (The French channel is desert)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> devkort, what .deb package is it ?
[13:29] <devkort> A handmade package in script python
[13:30] <devkort> BluesKaj: I get the impression that the script in / usr / bin is not recognized as bash script
[13:31] <BluesKaj> why the dot in front of deb, ?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> if you write a bash scrpt it should be a .sh extension, devkort'\
[13:33] <Roy> devkort, have you put the #!/bin/bash line on top?
[13:33] <Southern_Gentlem> and do you have #!/bin/bash at the beginning of the script
[13:33] <Southern_Gentlem> also check the permissions that it is executable
[13:34] <devkort> Roy yes , I have not put the .sh  extension and yes i have ordered chmod +x
[13:35] <hhee> guys, how can i minimize current opened window?
[13:36] <anddam> hhee: it depends on the wm, I guess
[13:36] <devkort> in /usr/bin there is no extension to the file
[13:36] <hhee> anddam, unity
[13:36] <uddane> hhee: top left corner of the window...
[13:37] <hhee> uddane, nope. not close i mean
[13:37] <hhee> i need hotkey
[13:38] <hhee> i know how maximize current window, but need hotkey for minimize
[13:38] <uddane> hhee: Ctrl+Alt+0
[13:38] <anddam> IIRC there's a cheatsheet in Unity, not sure how to display it but I remember I learned a couple shortcuts that way
[13:38] <anddam> and strictly speaking Unity isn't a wm, is it?
[13:39] <hhee> uddane, thx a lot, exactly!
[13:39] <anddam> devkort: why is it /usr/bin/bash?
[13:39] <uddane> hhee: System settings> keyboard > shortcut> windows... is where you will find them all
[13:39] <anddam> devkort: and couldn't you switch LANG to C for the error report?
[13:40] <hhee> uddane, thx again!
[13:40] <devkort> No i put #!/bin/bash
[13:40] <uddane> hhee: you're welcome  :-)
[13:41] <devkort> I change the language of the error report
[13:42] <devkort> Bad Interpreter: No such file or folder. the file exists
[13:45] <pandaadb> Hi - i am not sure how this usually works. Is Xorg 1.19 going to roll out to Ubuntu 16.04 automatically or would that be a manual upgrade process?
[13:51] <spm_draget> I eventually have some qt* packages installed manually (i.e. selected). I would like to remove qt stuff but only if it is not some dependency of some other package. How can I do that?
[13:51] <uddane> ok guys... getting an AACS error when attempting to play blu-rays (Blu-ray error:
[13:51] <uddane> No valid processing key found in AACS config file.) can this file be updated?
[13:52] <spm_draget> Sofar: "dpkg --get-selections | grep qt" to find slected installed qt-related packages. Then deselect them somehow and use apt autoremove? Will that work?
[13:53] <younder> What has happened to my mazon cite? It only shows text, will not accept ssh nad is pretty much useless?
[13:53] <younder> ++++amazon
[13:53] <younder> Trying the same address on my windows machine works fine.
[13:54] <younder> I s this a general problem or is it just me. I use chromium.
[13:58] <mcphail> younder: could it be the current chromium SSL "bug"?
[13:59] <mcphail> younder: serveal large sites have minor misconfigurations in their certificates, and chromium is breaking with them
[14:20] <hhee> guys ubuntu 16.04 unity DE. video dont play properly in vlc or smplayer
[14:21] <cfhowlett> hhee, what kind of video?  ubuntu version?
[14:23] <bitsimple> any suggestion of free shell where I can host my IRC bot ?
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> bitsimple: perhaps #freenode would be better place to ask?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> !alis | bitsimple to find specific channels
[14:25] <hhee> cfhowlett, ubuntu 16.04. as i wrote. codac MPEG-4 AAC  (.mp4)
[14:26] <cfhowlett> hhee, error msgs? If not, start vlc from the command line and note the feedback
[14:28] <hhee> cfhowlett, vlc play just sound. without video
[14:28] <breezy_> why does my cursor disappear in certain windows sometimes
[14:28] <hhee> cfhowlett, no errors if i run from terminal
[14:29] <hhee> cfhowlett, oh wait
[14:29] <cfhowlett> hhee, do you have all the codecs installed?  sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:29] <hhee> cfhowlett, Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_va_gl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:29] <cfhowlett> hhee, also tested on all .mp4's or does only 1 .mp4 fail
[14:31] <hateball> hhee: well do you have vdpau configured but not the required libs installed?
[14:32] <jf02jfv> kserv identify password123
[14:32] <jf02jfv> n
[14:33] <cfhowlett> jf02jfv, and no you have shared your password with the world.  go change it.
[14:34] <hhee> cfhowlett, i installed  ubuntu-restricted-extras. aolso tried several video files to open
[14:34] <hhee> cfhowlett, without changes
[14:34] <hhee> hateball, nope. what's it? how can i setup it?
[14:34] <creat> I didn't think I'll see someone with a password like that.
[14:34] <hhee> creat, why not?
[14:35] <creat> idk, it seems plain stupid
[14:36] <creat> How did you install VLC?
[14:37] <hhee> creat, yep
[14:37] <hhee> creat, apt-get install vlc
[14:39] <creat> That should work out of box.
[14:39] <creat> Unless you changed some preferences.
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> hhee: you got right graphics drivers installed?
[14:40] <creat> ^
[14:40] <hhee> lotuspsychje, how can i find out this? i just installed ubuntu out of box
[14:41] <hhee> creat, didn't touch any prefs
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> hhee: check the additional drivers section, let us know wich drivers are in your list
[14:41] <hhee> got it
[14:41] <kam187> hi guys
[14:41] <kam187> i'm installing a new server and a bit confused why it wont boot
[14:42] <hhee> lotuspsychje, only processor microcode there is
[14:42] <hhee> for intel cpu
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> hhee: how about sudo lshw -C video behind driver= ?
[14:42] <hhee> my cpu - model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz
[14:43] <cfhowlett> hhee, I also get that vpdau error on my .mp4 but the videos play anyway.  try this from command line: vlc video.mp4                  while video plays, check the terminal to see if additional info comes up
[14:43] <kam187> I have a 22TB (hw raid) disk /sda and SSD /dev/sdb.   I install ubuntu to the SSD /dev/sdb and make the / partition bootable
[14:43] <kam187> then i install grub to /dev/sdb
[14:43] <kam187> but it's not booting
[14:44] <xingxing> join #qq
[14:44] <hhee> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23490781/
[14:44] <hhee> cfhowlett, only one issue, as i wrote - Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_va_gl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:47] <kam187> nvm was set to boot the wrong RAID disk in the controller setup :/
[14:49] <hhee> reboot
[14:50] <docmur> I'm doing a debootstrap install of ubuntu 16.04 and it's working fine.  After the debootstrap, I do an apt-get install linux-image-generic grub2, to grab a kernel and initrd for me, then I do grub-install /dev/sda.  The problem is that one reboot I'm getting no initrd found, pass init= to the kernel.  Shouldn't linux-image-generic take care of this
[14:51] <blacknred0> is snap the strategic install for ubuntu 16.04 going forward?
[14:52] <hhee> guys cfu6466 lotuspsychje i rebooted and vlc works fine
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> hhee: what fixxed it you think?
[14:52] <hhee> lotuspsychje, dunno. :-|
[14:56] <peleon> hi
[14:56] <hhee> peleon, oh hi! :)
[14:56] <mordof> i'm on ubuntu 16.04, and i'm experiencing a scenario where no domain gets resolved - my dns is just not working. i'm using 8.8.8.8 or 4.4.4.4 for my dns addresses - which i can ping both of them (or any ip address)
[14:56] <mordof> i've tried force reloading network-manager, dealing with resolvconf, all of the posts about how to resolve dns issues - nothing has helped
[14:57] <peleon> can someone help me, Im trying to install kubuntu in my pc. When i create the usb live I, boot it. When It boots, I see the type of grub with the options: start it or install oem. When I select some option my screen become black
[14:57] <mordof> if anyone has any knowledge in this area to help me debug, your help would be greatly appreciated. thanks :)
[14:59] <mordof> peleon: i know very little about that topic, but it may be a situation where you'll need to boot with special options to choose graphics card/display details
[14:59] <peleon02> but other distros like debian and deepin I can boot it
[15:00] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[15:01] <mordof> peleon02: it's not a situation where you're unable to use anything - but it's likely just a specific situation with that live installer. the info OerHeks pointed out will likely help
[15:02] <wingnut> Hi, I am trying to help openvpn debug a coredump but I am not proficient at coredumps and I am using ubuntu 16.04 server (no gui) could somebody help me find the crash file
[15:02] <wingnut> thanks
[15:03] <younder> forget about coredums. Noone understands tem anymore
[15:03] <wingnut> great advise ...
[15:03] <younder> Do look at the log
[15:03] <wingnut> which log ?
[15:03] <SpeCon> can anyone tell my why i have issues with libreoffice in Kubuntu with my items / menu  i see the background of my desktop background
[15:03] <SpeCon> wich is pink
[15:04] <younder> probably /var/log/messages
[15:04] <SpeCon> i have a screenshot can i pastebin that somewhere so you can see what my issue is?
[15:05] <akik> younder: ubuntu doesn't write into /var/log/messages. it's /var/log/syslog
[15:05] <wingnut> younder: systemd .. there is no /var/log/messages
[15:06] <younder> dmessg
[15:06] <saml> before installing a package, how can I find out which repo it'll download from?
[15:07] <younder> dmesg
[15:08] <wingnut> younder: this is systemd ..
[15:08] <younder> saml apt search <name>
[15:09] <SpeCon> http://imgur.com/gallery/TkBKh
[15:09] <SpeCon> this is my upload of my screenshot
[15:09] <SpeCon> with my problem
[15:09] <mordof> anyone have any thoughts on how to troubleshoot DNS not resolving? both dig and nslookup just give "servers could not be reached" for any command i try, even with debug flags
[15:09] <younder> I am still new to systemd. More used to upstart give me a minute
[15:09] <SpeCon> can anyone please check the url and tell me how to fix this?
[15:09] <mordof> i can ping ip addresses and communicate with ip directly just fine - internet isn't a problem, but dns will not resolve at all
[15:09] <saml> apt-cache policy
[15:10] <younder> SpeCon: all I see is a libre office writer window
[15:10] <SpeCon> indeed
[15:11] <SpeCon> but check the pink collour in the background of the menu
[15:11] <wingnut> all i need to know is where the coredump is .. apparently it should be /var/crash but there is nothing there
[15:11] <SpeCon> thats not normal
[15:11] <coredump> I am in DC
[15:11] <SpeCon> my desktop background is pink and now it shows this pink collour in libreoffice background menu
[15:11] <SpeCon> i dunno why but yeah
[15:11] <mordof> lol xD
[15:11] <FinalX> hey - I'm following https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS with 16.04.1 but when I'm in the chroot environment with everything up to there done, grub-probe / just goes "unknown filesystem" instead of zfs, while zfs-initramfs just been installed and all.
[15:11] <FinalX> anyknow know why? driving me nuts. did it with 16.04 a while back in a kvm and it all worked just fine.
[15:13] <younder> cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[15:14] <wingnut> younder: |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c %P
[15:14] <wingnut> but i already looked here
[15:15] <younder> no run /usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c %P
[15:16] <mcphail> wingnut: does this help the crash files to be generated? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#Ubuntu_12.04_and_later
[15:16] <CarlFK> host veyepar.nextdayvideo.com says veyepar.nextdayvideo.com has address 166.78.244.211 (good)   ping says 64 bytes from veyepar.nextdayvideo.com (162.209.96.130)  (not good.  this is the old IP from 12 hours ago)
[15:17] <anotherssa> Hi there!
[15:17] <CarlFK> how do I flush whatever local cache dns is using?
[15:17] <anotherssa> Guys, I need your help
[15:17] <wingnut> mcphail: I was reading that .. I have # out 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'], and rebooted .. openvpn coredumped again .. but what then ?
[15:18] <mcphail> wingnut: anything in /var/crash now?
[15:18] <wingnut> nothing :(
[15:18] <mcphail> wingnut: I know systemd eats core dumps as well. I wonder if that is happening?
[15:18] <wingnut> maybe systemd is intercepting ?
[15:19] <younder> Most moder systems are set up not to coredump
[15:19] <SeventhSky> hello
[15:20] <wingnut> I'll ask in #systemd thanks fir help :)
[15:20] <anotherssa> While reinstalling Ubuntu 16.04 I got an UEFI error, after that error usb flash driver disaperead from Boot Menu. Please help me.
[15:20] <mcphail> wingnut: try looking in /var/lib/systemd/coredump (if it exists)
[15:21] <mcphail> wingnut: and make sure you have ulimit -c unlimited (or whatever value you are happy with)
[15:21] <somaReverse> Hi, my ubuntu terminal is broken. Alternative screen capability is gone, and colors are cranky
[15:21] <somaReverse> what can I do?
[15:22] <somaReverse> vim, emacs , tmux all behave abnormally
[15:22] <CarlFK> somaReverse: tell us more about "broken"
[15:22] <somaReverse> Alternative screen capability is gone
[15:22] <mordof> anyone have any knowledge on advanced debugging of why dns won't resolve on ubuntu 16.04? i've tried everything i've come across in normal posts - nothing is helping
[15:23] <mordof> at this point all i've got left is to format and reinstall, lol.. i'd really rather not do that if i can avoid it though
[15:23] <SeventhSky> hello ... i have a asus x550v with nvidia and intel...but when i try to boot from usb ther is message nouveau eroe bla bla bla...how to disable nouvau on usb bootable boot?
[15:24] <younder> SeventhSky, Install a nvidia driver from the nvidia webcite
[15:25] <CarlFK> mordof: what does this give you: host goo.gl
[15:25] <younder> SeventhSky, If you have a UEFI intsall though be aware
[15:25] <SeventhSky> younder : cannot boot from usb ...how i can install it ??
[15:25] <younder> SeventhSky, via nthe net
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> younder: thats not a very good avise, ubuntu has already nvidia drivers
[15:25] <SeventhSky> younder : yes UEFI mode a....
[15:26] <younder> noveaux is not a nvidea driver
[15:26] <mordof> CarlFK: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[15:26] <SeventhSky> younder : nouveau is radeon driver... how to disable it on usb boot?
[15:26] <ducasse> younder: nouvau is the open source nvidia driver
[15:26] <younder> you get them form http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[15:26] <somaReverse> CarlFK: this magit window's color are completely gone https://ptpb.pw/D5Hk.jpg
[15:27] <somaReverse> It should look like this https://ptpb.pw/OK-A.jpg
[15:27] <ducasse> SeventhSky: no, don't get them from the nvidia site, do as lotuspsychje says
[15:27] <somaReverse> and tmux stops working anymore
[15:28] <Roy> nouveau is indeed an open-source nvidia driver.
[15:28] <wingnut> younder: mcphail: systemd-coredumpctl .. looking into that now :)
[15:28] <younder> ducasse, and it is shit ise a nvidia driver
[15:28] <SeventhSky> but i cant boot from usb?? with my asus...but i try with my hp laptop with same usb drive...and its work fine...
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> !language | younder
[15:29] <Roy> Why doesn't nouveau work? Isn't it supposed to be easier to use nouveau than to use the official nvidia driver?
[15:29] <ducasse> younder: you are entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is
[15:30] <younder> I use cuda, and quite frankly all noveaux is good for is 2D acceleration for a desktop. For games, forget it
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> Roy: in some cases, some cards will need optimus and nvidia drivers version from ubuntu, or ubuntu ppa
[15:30] <mordof> CarlFK: anything else to try by chance?
[15:31] <SeventhSky> anyone can help me please
[15:31] <CarlFK> mordof:  I am gonna say your local dhcp isn't giving you a good dns IP.  what you are using for dhcp and what it is handing out as dns is ... a new problem
[15:31] <younder> I know the nvidia drivers are withot source code, but they are free. So I use them, and so should you. Unless you dont do games or Cuad
[15:32] <younder> cuda
[15:32] <srinivasnayak> anybody who compiles linux kernel here?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | SeventhSky
[15:32] <mordof> CarlFK: i've got 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 specified as my dns servers. i've also tried opendns
[15:32] <SeventhSky> lotuspsychje : sory
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> SeventhSky: try to boot nomodeset, then choose another driver from additional drivers perhaps
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | srinivasnayak
[15:33] <mordof> CarlFK: i can also ping those IP addresses with no issue
[15:33] <ducasse> srinivasnayak: why would you want to do that?
[15:34] <SeventhSky> big thanks ubottu and lotuspsychje...i will try..... :D
[15:35] <srinivasnayak> ducasse: i want to find a smaller subset of huge linux source which actually gets executed for a simpler hardware...say a i386 SBC
[15:35] <dtcrshr> !iommu
[15:35] <_0xdeadface> how can i open a windowed app always in fullscreen?
[15:36] <younder> _0xdeadface, If thae applicatio has suc an option
[15:36] <younder> _0xdeadface, the os can't set this
[15:36] <ducasse> srinivasnayak: the people in ##linux are probably better able to help you
[15:37] <srinivasnayak> :-(
[15:37] <ducasse> _0xdeadface: use devilspie (and gdevilspie if you want a gui to configure it)
[15:39] <ducasse> srinivasnayak: a vanilla kernel will not run on 386 anymore in any case, it was deprecated some time ago iirc
[15:39] <srinivasnayak> yes i know
[15:39] <CarlFK> mordof:  host -v goo.gl 8.8.8.8
[15:39] <srinivasnayak> if we go back to the old kernel version ?
[15:39] <srinivasnayak> say 2.6
[15:39] <CarlFK> mordof: should end with Received 84 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53 in 38 ms
[15:39] <srinivasnayak> when 386 was supported...
[15:40] <ducasse> srinivasnayak: then you lose a lot of modern features, but yes. but try ##linux, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:40] <mordof> CarlFK: yup, that gives me all the information including that at the end
[15:40] <ImUs3r> unbuntu don’t have windows list?
[15:41] <blackflow> Any wikipedia editors in the house? The wikipedia entry on Ubuntu server says ZFS is implemented via FUSE, not as regular kernel module. Surely that's not correct?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Ubuntu_Server
[15:41] <CarlFK> mordof: "i've got 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 specified as my dns servers" - I am guessing you want that, but you don't.
[15:41] <CarlFK> mordof: "i've got 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 specified as my dns servers" - I am guessing you want that, but you don't have that.
[15:42] <ducasse> blackflow: try #ubuntu-doc, or even better a wikipedia channel. not much we can do.
[15:42] <OerHeks> blackflow, not our job to correct this, try #wikipedia?
[15:42] <mordof> CarlFK: that's what it's stated as in the network manager for my dns records. if that's not reliable, i don't know how else to do it. i also have both of those confirmed as nameservers in my resolv.conf
[15:42] <ImUs3r> when i excute 2 terminal, then how can i select it? unbuntu don’t have windows list? ?
[15:43] <xJeremyCx> Hey guys. I get distortion when playing musics with my headphones. I'm running Ubuntu 16.10
[15:43] <blackflow> ducasse: I'll try #ubuntu-doc, thanks.
[15:43] <CarlFK> mordof: what does "primary dns" say in the "connection information" dialog?
[15:43] <xJeremyCx> This had never happened before. Everything was fine until few days ago
[15:44] <xJeremyCx> I found that the stereo audio is mixed together, outputting a mono audio
[15:45] <xJeremyCx> Is there any way to fix this?
[15:45] <OerHeks> ImUs3r, use alt+tab, when you see the terminal, keep holing alt, then 2 terminals show up, use arrows to select
[15:45] <mordof> CarlFK: i'm on gnome 3 ubuntu 16.04, so the exact wording your using isn't in the panels - but in the network manager it has   "DNS 8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" for the connection
[15:45] <mordof> unless there's another area i should look for that info
[15:45] <Bloom> Hello guys. Im doing a test which contains two picture, one named hackertron.png.gpg which i am supposed to unlock and the other one is named Moscow_watchdog_4.jpeg, so far i found out that there is a password saying "TissotIsTime" inside of the Moscow picture, i also got the information that i need to decrypt the hackertron picture with aes256. Do any of you guys know how i can do that through my linux machine?
[15:45] <mordof> you're*
[15:45] <CarlFK> mordof: are you looking at the settings you can edit, or the current status?
[15:46] <mordof> both say the same
[15:46] <OerHeks> Bloom, is this your homework?
[15:46] <xJeremyCx> when I test my headphones I'm hearing "front left" on both sides
[15:47] <CarlFK> mordof: try using just 8.8.8.8  ...  I am thinking maybe the 'syntax' or whaever of listing 2 isn't right
[15:47] <Bloom> No it's not
[15:48] <mordof> CarlFK: elaborating: when i'm in edit mode, there's the ability to add extra dns entries, each with their own input. when i've got both entered, i have 2 inputs, each containing one of the addresses. the "DNS 8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4" is the resulting status string that it displays on the main panel
[15:48] <mordof> CarlFK: you're right though, if i had put that in while editing it probably would've freaked out
[15:48] <ImUs3r> OerHeks: then there is no windows list?
[15:49] <for{}> ducasse, gdevilspie doesnt work
[15:49] <CarlFK> mordof: im out of ideas - my guess is that setting you are looking at isn't being used.
[15:49] <OerHeks> ImUs3r, nope.
[15:49] <ducasse> for{}: oh, devilspie2 then?
[15:49] <ImUs3r> thanks OerHeks ;)
[15:50] <OerHeks> ImUs3r, you could see 2 instances on your panel too
[15:50] <for{}> but i want gui, ducasse
[15:50] <Bloom> OerHeks no it's not
[15:50] <ImUs3r> OerHeks: ubuntu vs debian, which is more stable?
[15:50] <ducasse> for{}: "you can't always get what you want..." :)
[15:50] <mordof> CarlFK: it does seem that way. but i've fiddled with resolvconf, and force reloading the network-manager daemon as well after making the changes. i don't know how to check which dns server it's trying to use either
[15:51] <for{}> what if you never get what you want?
[15:51] <ducasse> ImUs3r: depends on what you mean by 'stable', but it's offtopic here. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:51] <OerHeks> ImUs3r, ubuntu, what do you expect in ubuntu-support-channel?
[15:51] <OerHeks> + answer
[15:51] <ImUs3r> i will do programming with ubuntu.
[15:52] <mordof> CarlFK: i looked in /var/log/syslog   in hopes that any dns stuff would show up, but to no avail. if there's logs, or ways to be all "what dns server are you using?" then maybe that would be helpful
[15:53] <for{}> its ubuntu vs debian sid
[15:53] <for{}> at least i heard it would be
[15:54] <ducasse> for{}: honestly, devilspie rules are quite easy to write. if this is standard ubuntu with unity i think compiz also has some built-in window allocation features. have you tried compiz-config-settings-manager?
[15:55] <for{}> ducasse, i saw nothing like 'fullscreen for <app name>' in ccsm
[15:57] <Bloom> Hello guys. Im doing a test which contains two picture, one named hackertron.png.gpg which i am supposed to unlock and the other one is named Moscow_watchdog_4.jpeg, so far i found out that there is a password saying "TissotIsTime" inside of the Moscow picture, i also got the information that i need to decrypt the hackertron picture with aes256. Do any of you guys know how i can do that through my linux machine?
[15:58] <ducasse> for{}: then i think devilspie or maybe wmctrl are your best choices.
[15:59] <OerHeks> Bloom, do you have the aes256 key ?
[15:59] <Bloom> Im pretty sure that it's TissotIsTime as i have nothing else
[16:00] <Bloom> I have a link to the picture where it's just a small box OerHeks
[16:00] <Bloom> Oerheks http://flerehackere.dk/style/ Here is the things i have access to, in the Moscow picture if you download it and open with notepad the password is in the bottom of the document
[16:02] <ducasse> Bloom: is this for a contest?
[16:02] <tcoupload> I need some help
[16:02] <Bloom> ducasse: Yes
[16:02] <tcoupload> i open a link in a email and the result was 3 commands like "/bin/bash -ilc command env"
[16:02] <tcoupload> to stop them need to use sudo...
[16:02] <tcoupload> in a research i saw the bash options i(interactive) and c(read from) so after stop them i change my pass
[16:02] <tcoupload> but i need help to understant the "command env" part!!
[16:02] <Jordan_U> Bloom: Are you allowed to be asking for help from others in this contest?
[16:02] <Bloom> There is nothing illegal related to this
[16:03] <usr13> Do we get to share the prize money?
[16:03] <ducasse> Bloom: then you should figure it out yourself, shouldn't you? at the very least, i'd expect you to try google.
[16:03] <Bloom> Jordan_U: everything is permitted
[16:03]  * OerHeks loves aes256 bitcoins
[16:03] <Bloom> No price pool lol
[16:04] <ducasse> tcoupload: 'help command'
[16:05] <usr13> tcoupload: man env
[16:05] <OerHeks> Encrypt and decrypt hex strings using AES-128 and AES-256, supporting basic modes of operation, ECB, CBC. bla bla >> http://extranet.cryptomathic.com/aescalc/index
[16:05] <akik> Bloom: try openssl enc -d
[16:08] <tcoupload> ducasse: my bad.. i thought there was a real command... lol
[16:16] <for{}> ducasse, it works!
[16:16] <for{}> at least for now
[16:16] <for{}> i use devilspie2
[16:17] <ducasse> for{}: great :) just have it autostart, and it should always work for that application.
[16:18] <for{}> thanks, ducasse
[16:19] <ducasse> for{}: yw
[16:23] <boriseto-work> How can I execute a snap from terminal (lets say VLC for example)? Can I bind it with other apps for opening directly a file or link?
[16:23] <Trel> I'm having a bit of an issue.  I installed mariadb which broke everything, and I'm trying to remove it and mysql so I can start over.  I can't seem to get mysql to install now.  Any clue at all what I can do?
[16:24] <OerHeks> boriseto-work, don't open a gui program from terminal.
[16:24] <OerHeks> boriseto-work, if you *must*: vlc &
[16:25] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: I know, but usually that's the "run" command as well. Also, it isn't VLC from repo, it's the Snap version.
[16:25] <root____8> hi
[16:26] <glitchd> how can i get a script to run before login?
[16:26] <Southern_Gentlem> rc.local
[16:26] <glitchd> and carry over into the session i log into
[16:26] <OerHeks> boriseto-work, ehm ... so you have regular and spap package installed? what does - apt-cache policy vlc - say?
[16:27] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, care to give me a hand as i have no idea how to accomplish that
[16:27] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd, what exactly are you trying to do
[16:27] <OerHeks> i think the newest will be called
[16:28] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: that it's installed from ppa
[16:29] <OerHeks> snap list
[16:29] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: in the dash I have both of the versions, the one from the ppa and the snap one, but the snap one at the moment behaves better with the current intel hardware/software
[16:29] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: I have vlc there as well. :)
[16:29] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, well i have another machine setup and instead of having 2 keyboards and 2 mice, i would like to use one each and control both machines. i already have that working. but when i boot the second machine i have to get up, plug in a keyboard and mouse, login, the run the script for it to connect to the control server running on my main machine. i want the script to launch at boot so i can use the keyboard from machine 1 to log into machine 2.
[16:30] <Southern_Gentlem> so add the script to /etc/rc.local and it will run on every reboot
[16:30] <glitchd> and how exactly do i add it to rc.local
[16:31] <OerHeks> boriseto-work, again: what does - apt-cache policy vlc - say?
[16:31] <OerHeks> i think only the newest will be called
[16:31] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd,  sorry to be this way but you need to learn more so its time for you to google rc.local
[16:31] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, seriously?
[16:31] <OerHeks> i think both ppa and regular and snap are 2.2.2
[16:32] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/tnpVTs3G
[16:32] <boriseto-work> Nope, the snap is 3.x
[16:33] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, youre awful. step on a tack.
[16:33] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: what you are saying is if I had only the snap version, if I execute vlc (in terminal or app), it should load that one?
[16:34] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd,  you dont understand the basic FHS stuff nor how to edit a file yes you need to do some research
[16:34] <w0jtas> hello, how can i upgrade ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 ? i want to have 16.04 but 15.04 -> 16.04 doesn't work
[16:35] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | w0jtas
[16:35] <devslash> I upgraded a virtualbox VM that was running Ubuntu 15.10 to 16.10 and now it won't boot. After I enter the encryption password, it hangs on the lock screen. It shows "ACPI: No IRQ available for PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD]. Try pci=noacpi or acpi=off [ 28.725633] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0 SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr" I'm pretty sure that this message was there before this problem started and isn't
[16:35] <devslash> related to the problem itself think that
[16:36] <frankiee_> Hi! Which version of xubuntu must I install for a non-PAE kernel? (Intel Celeron M 1.40GHz) HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop.
[16:37] <nicomachus> devslash: did you try using "force_addr=0xaddr"?
[16:37] <devslash> what address would i use
[16:37] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, i know basic things, i can edit files. if you have used xubuntu 16.04 you would know that rc.local is not used by default anymore and has moved to systemd. thats why i was asking for an explanation. drop the attitude and help the people asking for help or leave and stop wasting peoples time. jerk.
[16:38] <devslash> nicomachus, What address would I use
[16:38] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, and dont reply to me again.
[16:39] <frankiee_> glitchd: You gotta admit, systemd sucks though :/
[16:40] <frankiee_> systemd ie. compared to http://man.openbsd.org/rc.8
[16:40] <devslash> can anyone help me out
[16:41] <glitchd> seriously tho, what a tool that guy is.
[16:41] <OerHeks> boriseto-work, no clue, i see 2 vlc instances in my panel, biug and smaller icon. not sure howto start the 3.0 version from terminal, i think you never should launch from terminal.
[16:42] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd,  create one and see
[16:42] <OerHeks> boriseto-work, maybe the guys in #snappy can give that answer
[16:42] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, go away.
[16:43] <HoloIRCUser1> Is 16.10 worth upgrading
[16:43] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: oh, wasn't aware about that channel, thanks. It wasn't for running it from the terminal, it was more for giving the exec command to an app, to use instead of regular vlc... But thank you anyway.
[16:43] <v_chartest> cnet.ee
[16:43] <glitchd> Southern_Gentlem, fyi, youre ignored now.
[16:43] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd,  good
[16:45] <HoloIRCUser1> Is 16.10 worth upgrade
[16:45] <TomyWork> hey there
[16:45] <ducasse> glitchd: just add a line that runs the script to /etc/rc.local, there's no magic involved
[16:45] <EriC^^> hi TomyWork
[16:45] <TomyWork> bluetooth on my dell precision m4800 doesn't work out of the box, but i found this: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=53R21
[16:46] <TomyWork> dmesg suggests all i need would be firmware
[16:46] <genii> HoloIRCUser1: If you have no pressing need for something which only 16.10 has, you're better off to stay on 16.04.1 LTS for now
[16:46] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser1, users can have benefit with the newer kernel for newest hardware, else i would stick to LTS
[16:46] <TomyWork> i'm still downloading, what kind of file(s) should i be looking for in that package?
[16:46] <TomyWork> (not going to install all of it, i like my system :))
[16:46] <HoloIRCUser1> Thanks
[16:46] <glitchd> ducasse, but thats the thing with 16.10, rc.local isnt used by default
[16:46] <glitchd> ducasse, its using systemd if i read correctly
[16:47] <Southern_Gentlem> glitchd, then you need to read up more on systemd
[16:47] <TomyWork> -rw-r--r-- david/david    12112 2013-04-08 11:15 debs/oem-bt-dw1550-dkms_0.1_all.deb
[16:47] <TomyWork> does this sound like what i want?
[16:47] <ducasse> glitchd: it seems to be active here, otherwise just enable it with systemctl
[16:47] <blackflow> glitchd: I think they're trying to tell you that if it exists, rc.local will be executed by systemd.
[16:48] <Vysty> Yao, anyone kicking around?
[16:48] <Vysty> Anyone have the experience that Unity bogs down a bit more than Gnome?
[16:48] <glitchd> blackflow, that makes more sense
[16:48] <glitchd> ducasse, i just found info on how to re-enable rc.local so im trying that
[16:49] <glitchd> ducasse, blackflow thank you both
[16:49] <blackflow> glitchd: while at it, I'd recommend looking into writing your own proper unit file, to get used to it as ewll
[16:49] <xangua> Vysty well it uses compiz so...
[16:49] <Vysty> xangua: Whazzat?
[16:50] <glitchd> blackflow, im not even sure what that is..
[16:50] <blackflow> glitchd: core configuration files for services, sockets, timers, .... under systemd
[16:51] <glitchd> blackflow, ohh, ill check that out then, thanks again!
[16:51] <blackflow> glitchd: there are tutorials like this: http://patrakov.blogspot.hr/2011/01/writing-systemd-service-files.html
[16:52] <glitchd> blackflow, welp i just add my script to rc.local now im about to reboot to see if it works or not
[16:52] <blackflow> glitchd: for one-off scripts (execute once, don't daemonize) you need to set Type=oneshot. Definitely look at docs.
[16:52] <kostkon> TomyWork: dkms so yeah it's a kernel module, most likely a driver
[16:53] <glitchd> blackflow, will do
[16:56] <glitchd> blackflow, nope adding my script to rc.local did not start it
[16:56] <TomyWork> kostkon looks like i cant build it though :/
[16:56] <TomyWork> error: ‘struct hci_dev’ has no member named ‘load_firmware’
[16:56] <TomyWork> hdev->load_firmware = btusb_load_firmware
[16:57] <kostkon> TomyWork: dkms is giving you errors?
[16:57] <TomyWork> yes
[16:57] <boriseto-work> OerHeks: so it's this simple: for binding it from another app (let's say I want to open a video from there), instead of "vlc" I should use "/snap/bin/vlc"
[16:57] <TomyWork> well the package is, but i think it invokes dkms in postinst
[17:00] <TomyWork> package linux-headers-$(uname -r)-generic is installed and it's the one it wants to build with
[17:05] <ducasse> TomyWork: the source is probably under /usr/src, try building it manually and see where it fails
[17:08] <vihsi> please help me to install wifi driver in ubuntu 16.04 please help me,
[17:10] <TomyWork> ducasse i have the make.log the package left
[17:10] <TomyWork> ducasse would that be enough?
[17:10] <vihsi> help me please
[17:11] <vihsi> #ablest
[17:11] <younder> vihsi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[17:12] <vihsi> sir i checked almost everything in internet, but nothing work
[17:12] <vihsi> @younder

[17:13] <younder> But you never told us anything about what device or what driver
[17:14] <vihsi> sir  output of lspci is
[17:14] <vihsi> fuchs@freenode/staff/fuchs
[17:14] <vihsi> sorry
[17:14] <vihsi> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01) 	Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [11ad:0642]
[17:14] <ablest> what computer do you got?
[17:14] <vihsi> acer aspire
[17:14] <vihsi> e5
[17:16] <ablest> http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers
[17:16] <usr13> vihsi: sudo modprobe ath9k && dmesg | grep ath
[17:16] <ablest> e5 or e500?
[17:17] <vihsi> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ath9k': Invalid argument
[17:17] <ablest> http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/309?b=1
[17:17] <ablest> ^
[17:17] <usr13> vihsi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[17:18] <lxleuser> hi, I installed lxle today. Audio is not working now. what can I do?
[17:18] <usr13> vihsi: Fully updated?
[17:18] <vihsi> yes sir
[17:18] <usr13> lxleuser: alsamixer
[17:19] <usr13> vishesh: linux-headers-generic installed?
[17:19] <lxleuser> usr13: I didn't get you.
[17:19] <lxleuser> I am new to lenux
[17:19] <vihsi> yeah almost sir
[17:19] <usr13> lxleuser: In terminal run  alsamixer  Make sure everything is turned up, etc. etc.
[17:20] <younder> http://askubuntu.com/questions/708061/qualcomm-atheros-device-168c0042-rev-30-wi-fi-driver-installation
[17:20] <lxleuser> usr13: but i have pulseaudio installed in lxle
[17:20] <usr13> vihsi: Reboot afterwards and let us know.
[17:20] <TomyWork> ducasse a fix for this seems to be in quantal, raring and saucy, but not in trusty
 updated sir, and also no wifi option available in bar of ubuntu
[17:20] <usr13> lxleuser: In terminal run  alsamixer  Make sure everything is turned up, etc. etc.
[17:21] <usr13> lxleuser: And nothing muted
[17:21] <vihsi> ok sir
[17:21] <usr13> and run modprobe command again.
[17:21] <lxleuser> usr13: It says no such file or directory
[17:22] <younder> This helped me debug the sound problems http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/sound/sound_troubleshooting.htm
[17:22] <usr13> lxleuser: alsamixer
[17:22] <younder> It's a bit extensive for interacive storytelling over a chat group over unknown hardware.
[17:22] <usr13> !sound | lxleuser
[17:23] <nacc> TomyWork: which bug?
[17:23] <TomyWork> nacc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/linux-lts-vivid/+bug/1077091
[17:23] <younder> But my link have a very sound soluttin/debugging based approach.
[17:23] <TomyWork> missing hci_dev::load_firmware
 same error sir
[17:24] <usr13> You rebooted?
[17:24] <younder> duh
[17:24] <nacc> TomyWork: which kernel are you using in trusty?
[17:24] <vihsi> sorry i haven't let me reboot
[17:24] <usr13> vihsi: iwconfig |& nc termbin.com 9999
[17:24] <TomyWork> the default one:
[17:24] <usr13> vihsi: ... and send resulting URL ...
[17:25] <TomyWork> 3.13.0-101-generic
[17:25] <younder> trusty tar now that was a while back.
[17:25] <usr13> vihsi: Yes, reboot, try again.
[17:25] <vihsi> http://termbin.com/4iql
[17:25] <usr13> vihsi: Did you reboot?
 it just hangs up while unpackaging generic
[17:26] <vihsi> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal 4.4.0-47-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-47-generic run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 4.4.0-47-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-47-generic Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.4.0-47-generic (x86_64) Consult /var/lib/dkms/focaltech/1.5/build/make.log for more information.
[17:26] <younder> Funny thats what I always do when my Pi won't respond. Reboot. sually itworks, If not try again. Shit science, but it seems to keep things running.
[17:26] <nacc> TomyWork: are you sure you pointed at hte correct bug? that's a CVE one for the ipv4 stack
[17:26] <usr13> vihsi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 still executing
[17:27] <elcot_> hello guys
[17:27] <nacc> TomyWork: and that particular bug only applies to < 3.4.19 (so not trusty's kernel(s)
 okk sir
[17:28] <TomyWork> nacc well it does appear here :)
[17:28] <elcot_> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[17:28] <nacc> TomyWork: what does? you hit the CVE??
[17:28] <nacc> TomyWork: I don't disagree you are hitting something, I disagree it's that bug, I doubt you're using illinois
[17:28] <TomyWork> nacc no, wait, did i post the wrong bug?
[17:28] <nacc> TomyWork: yes, that's what I think :)
[17:29] <TomyWork> i did "grep -R load_firmware /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-101-generic" and it's not showing anything in hci_dev
 sir email id vishal129.vk@gmail.com can you please contact
[17:29] <TomyWork> let me find the correct one...
[17:29] <usr13> vihsi: ok
[17:30] <TomyWork> nacc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400
[17:30] <TomyWork> precise, quantal, raring and saucy fixed, but trusty isnt even mentioned
[17:31] <k__> hi
[17:31] <k__> just got this error
[17:31] <nacc> TomyWork: it's nominated for it Trusty (in my view), but not yet accepted
[17:31] <k__> bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:191: error: undefined reference to 'dlmalloc_real'
[17:32] <k__> bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:211: error: undefined reference to 'dlmalloc_real'
[17:32] <k__> bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:214: error: undefined reference to 'dlfree'
[17:32] <k__> bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:236: error: undefined reference to 'dlfree'
[17:32] <k__> bionic/libc/bionic/malloc_debug_common.cpp:240: error: undefined reference to 'dlfree'
[17:32] <nacc> !paste | k__
[17:32] <TomyWork> nacc the guy who nominated it said "For Utopic, the upstream patch mentioned in #119 is already merged"
[17:32] <TomyWork> does that mean if i upgrad to linux-lts-utopic, it may work?
[17:32] <nicomachus> TomyWork: what are you on now?
[17:32] <nacc> TomyWork: utopic stack is no longer supported
[17:33] <TomyWork> nacc or linux-lts-xenial or whatever it current
[17:33] <nacc> TomyWork: for trusty, you need to be on 14.04.0/1 or 14.04.5
[17:33] <nacc> TomyWork: i think xenial will probably work fine, i'm honestly not sure
[17:33] <nacc> TomyWork: still digging on my side
[17:33] <utilisateur> hello
[17:33] <younder> A good time to point to a psste webcite for code and errors? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:33] <TomyWork> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS according to /etc/lsb-release
[17:34] <Sonderblade> hi
[17:34] <nacc> TomyWork: so do you have the xenial hwe stack installed and just aren't runing that kernel?
[17:35] <TomyWork> nacc i think that's separate from what's in lsb-release
[17:35] <nacc> TomyWork: i think you're right, though, that it should be in trusty's base kernel via a backport, though
[17:35] <TomyWork> nacc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack i guess i'll just run that apt-get line?
[17:36] <nacc> TomyWork: utopic got it for free, as it was merged in 3.16
[17:36] <nacc> TomyWork: err, 3.14, i meant
[17:36] <nacc> TomyWork: i can approve that task for trusty, but someone still needs to do the work :)
[17:38] <TomyWork> well, i guess the enablement stack will have  that fix anyway, right?
[17:40] <nacc> TomyWork: the xenial one will, yeah
[17:45] <kosmas> Hello, I have a quick question. Anyone here?
[17:45] <nacc> !ask kosmas
[17:45] <nacc> !ask | kosmas
[17:45] <OerHeks> that was a quick question :-D
[17:56] <rcmainak> I'm getting an error
[17:56] <rcmainak> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:56] <rcmainak> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packagecloud.io_slacktechnologies_slack_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[17:56] <rcmainak> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:56] <rcmainak> what's wrong?
[17:56] <usr13> rcmainak: And this is after command __________________?
[17:57] <rcmainak> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[17:57] <OerHeks> packagecloud.io is an commercial blob
[17:58] <nacc> rcmainak: also you seem to be trying to use debian on ubuntu, based upon that url?
[17:58] <usr13> rcmainak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[17:59] <rcmainak> don't know why I somehow manage to mess up my ubuntu after sometime :D
[18:00]  * rcmainak poor soul 
[18:00] <ubuntu> hey just selected 'try ubuntu'
[18:00] <ubuntu> from the live USB
[18:00] <ubuntu> 16.10
[18:00] <ubuntu> and my logitech mouse is working
[18:00] <Guest98944> but the cursor is not updating position
[18:01] <usr13> That's great ubuntu.  Do you have any questions about it?
[18:01] <Guest98944> just stock in the top left corner
[18:01] <Guest98944> at first i thought it wasn't moving at all
[18:01] <Guest98944> then i right clicked
[18:01] <Guest98944> and saw that it in fact was connected
[18:01] <Guest98944> just the cursor isn't updating
[18:01] <kostkon> Guest98944, did you try connecting it to another port?
[18:01] <OerHeks> dirt in your mouse that moves him to the corner
[18:01] <usr13> Guest98944: Please do not use Enter key for puncuation.
[18:02] <Guest98944> usr13: i dont understand what you're saying
[18:02] <kostkon> !enter
[18:02] <kostkon> no?
[18:02] <usr13> *punctuation*
[18:02] <OerHeks> don't use enter as .
[18:02] <usr13> Sorry for the spelling error.
[18:02] <Guest98944> yes i tried another port
[18:03] <Guest98944> i thought ubuntu was pretty stable OS?
[18:03] <Guest98944> very odd I cannot use name brand mouse
[18:03] <usr13> very odd indeed
[18:03] <Guest98944> the mouse software stack loads before the OS does and can be used in BIOS
[18:03] <Guest98944> so how did Ubuntu break the mouse guys?
[18:04] <kostkon> Guest98944, mouse support in efi is a different story altogether nothing to do with the OS
[18:04] <usr13> Guest98944: We do not know how you broke your mouse.  :)
[18:04] <Guest98944> usr13: you are not helping anyone
[18:04] <Guest98944> usr13: I don't appreciate your attitude
[18:05] <usr13> Guest98944: Sorry you do not understand.
[18:05] <rudedog1> can anyone tell me how to make my lockscreen match my login screen?
[18:05] <Guest98944> usr13: i don't have time to deal with your bullshit, do not respond to me anymore
[18:06] <usr13> Guest98944: Sorry you do not have a sense of humor.
[18:06] <oswintopno> ssup
[18:06] <Guest98944> usr13: here you go wasting time again
[18:06] <oswintopno> is it
[18:06] <rudedog1> my mouse got brock when i installed laptop-mode-tools
[18:06] <kostkon> Guest98944, you could reconnect the mouse and check what the logs will say about it
[18:06] <Guest98944> usr13: my mouse works perfectly on this system in Windows 10, Linux mint, ect
[18:06] <Guest98944> Ubuntu broke the mouse support
[18:07] <Guest98944> Not me
[18:07] <Guest98944> Your joke was garbage
[18:07] <Guest98944> Just like your atttitude
[18:07] <usr13> Yours is good though.
[18:07] <OerHeks> usr13, coffee?
[18:07] <usr13> OerHeks: Yes, thank you.
[18:07] <rudedog1> the fix for my mouse is here
[18:07] <rudedog1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760887/installed-laptop-mode-tool-16-04-now-usb-mouse-not-working-after-rebooting-unti
[18:07] <nacc> Guest98944: please stop using enter as punctuation; if usr13 isn't being helpful, just ignore them.
[18:07] <nacc> Guest98944: so your mouse is connected, but the cursor doesn't move?
[18:08] <Guest98944> nacc right the cursor is stuck in the top left
[18:08] <rudedog1> that's how it was yes
[18:08] <Guest98944> the mouse is moving
[18:08] <nacc> rudedog1: you also experienced this problem?
[18:08] <nacc> Guest98944: sorry? so it works now?
[18:09] <Guest98944> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2339860
[18:09] <nacc> !who | rudedog1
[18:09] <Guest98944> known bug
[18:09] <rudedog1> yes after installing laptop-mode-tools
[18:09] <rudedog1> that messed up my mouse it's fixed now though
[18:09] <Guest98944> nacc: the mouse works, yes - ubuntu HOWEVER is NOT updating the cursor position to what it actually is
[18:09] <Guest98944> the cursor is stuck in the top left
[18:10] <nacc> Guest98944: ah sorry, I misunderstood "the mouse is moving", you meant you are moving the mouse physically, I think
[18:11] <rudedog1> I installed acrobat reader hehe
[18:11] <nacc> Guest98944: is there anything in dmesg regarding your mouse or the corresponding driver? particularly errors
[18:11] <Guest98944> nacc: some people say it's the kernel
[18:11] <Guest98944> I find that hard to believe
[18:11] <nacc> Guest98944: does 16.04 work?
[18:11] <Guest98944> nacc: according to a user in the thread I linked
[18:11] <rudedog1> type this command
[18:11] <Guest98944> nacc: I do not have time to do that right now
[18:11] <rudedog1>  lsusb
[18:12] <rudedog1> should show you deviceid
[18:12] <usr13> Guest98944: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:12] <nacc> usr13: why do you think that is the solution?
[18:12] <usr13> nacc: Why do you think it is not the solution?
[18:13] <usr13> nacc: Do you know if he has a fully updated system? (Including kernel?)
[18:13] <usr13> nacc: Does he know?
[18:13] <Guest98944> ...
[18:13] <rudedog1> for mine I used that command and wrote down the deviceid
[18:14] <Guest98944> you want me to upgrade the system in a live session
[18:14] <nacc> usr13: becuse they are on the live USB, so changing the kernel won't matter
[18:14] <Guest98944> ... to fix the mouse support...
[18:14] <rudedog1> then had to add that to a file
[18:14] <nacc> usr13: please read the actual issue, and then try to help constructively.
[18:14] <rudedog1> reboot and the mouse worked agin
[18:14] <usr13> Oh, live CD  Well, that's different.
[18:14] <Guest98944> usr13: if you weren't so concerned about talking shit to new users
[18:14] <Guest98944> you might actually help someone
[18:14] <nacc> Guest98944: please don't curse, please just focus on solving the issue
[18:14] <rcmainak> usr13, thanks mate. solved the problem...
[18:15] <usr13> rcmainak: NP
[18:15] <Guest98944> this channel used to be full of really bright people
[18:15] <Guest98944> really helpful people
[18:15] <usr13> Guest98944: Still is.
[18:15] <rudedog1> first off curses always helps!
[18:15] <nacc> Guest98944: can you pastebin the output of `dmesg`? maybe just what it shows when you unplug and replug the mouse?
[18:15] <Guest98944> usr13: obviously you weren't here when I was
[18:15] <nacc> Guest98944: usr13: both of you stop, focus on support in the channel, please.
[18:16] <Guest98944> nacc: I installed pastebinit
[18:16] <Guest98944> to show lsusb
[18:16] <Guest98944> but it's kind of hard to copy the link without a mouse xD
[18:16] <ivaylo33> hi
[18:16] <nacc> Guest98944: thanks please provide those links once you have them -- hrm, good point :)
[18:16] <nacc> Guest98944: should be short enough to type, i hope
[18:16] <wew_lad> I have NVIDIA 367.57 installed on Ubuntu 16.04 with a 965M. The performance is horrible. I've read that the performance is much better in 370.28, and I can install it via a PPA. I'm planning to do a clone then try installing it via the "Additional Drivers" method. Should I remove the existing drivers first?
[18:16] <usr13> nacc: If you scroll up, people have said "Sorry" to Guest98944 a total of 5 times.  He is the only rude person I see here.
[18:17] <Guest98944> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491663
[18:17] <mrottenkolber> Hi, I have both "Ubuntu Software Center" and "Ubuntu Software" which one should I uninstall and how do I do that?
[18:17] <nacc> usr13: move on, please. You are not obligated to help anyone.
[18:17] <rudedog1> i like synaptic package installer
[18:18] <ivaylo33> whois ivaylo33
[18:18] <mrottenkolber> rudedog1: I am mainly interested in figuring out which is there "by accident" (through upgrade)
[18:18] <Guest98944> i would use a wired mouse as a workaround
[18:18] <Guest98944> but all I have is wireless
[18:19] <Guest98944> so I guess this bug is better left unfixed
[18:19] <rudedog1> yeah my wireless took a shit
[18:19] <mrottenkolber> Also, are there any recommended resources on how to create a deb package and host it in an ppa?
[18:19] <rudedog1> so i used wired usb one
[18:20] <nacc> mrottenkolber: do you know how to create a source package?
[18:20] <TomyWork> nacc after closing a mile of browser and console tabs, i'm now restarting to boot into the new kernel. wish me luck :)
[18:20] <mrottenkolber> nacc: what do you mean by source package? I have created plenty of Slackbuilds for instance, so I am generally educated in the topic of packaging, but never have created a deb
[18:20] <TomyWork> it did rebuild the bluetooth module, so that should be covered at least
[18:21] <nacc> Guest98944: since you are on a live session; it seems relatively easy to just setup 16.04 on a usb and test that; that would be my first suggestion (to verify it's a regression or not). Or you could try disabling the nvidia modules, but i'm not sure how that would work in the live session.
[18:21] <TomyWork> nacc ah nope, still the same error :/
[18:21] <nacc> TomyWork: good luck!
[18:21] <TomyWork> /var/lib/dkms/oem-bt-dw1550/0.1/build/btusb.c:1108:6: error: ‘struct hci_dev’ has no member named ‘load_firmware’
[18:21] <ioria> Guest98944, take a look at solaar package or solaar-gnome3  package  for your Unifying Receiver
[18:22] <ioria> !info solaar
[18:22] <nacc> mrottenkolber: that question sort of implies, no :) ok, so probaby should ask your questions in #ubuntu-devel, then
[18:22] <nacc> TomyWork: is the dkms-building package something Ubuntu ships?
[18:23] <rudedog1> can anyone tell me where my lockscreen theme settings are located
[18:23] <TomyWork> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491695/ here's the make log
[18:24] <TomyWork> the linux headers are the ones from the kernel i just installed
[18:24] <nacc> TomyWork: is oem-bt-dw1550-0.1 an Ubuntu package? or where did you get it?
[18:24] <TomyWork> nope, it's from dell
[18:24] <nacc> TomyWork: their package is probably incompatible with the Ubuntu kernels then
[18:24] <nacc> TomyWork: what kernels do they support?
[18:24] <TomyWork> http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=53R21
[18:24] <TomyWork> it says it's for precise
[18:24] <nacc> TomyWork: right, so it will *only* work for precise
[18:25] <mrottenkolber> So regarding my previous question: I assume software-center is deprecated, and "Ubuntu Software" is the new thing?
[18:25] <TomyWork> nacc hmm, so any way i can get this fixed? :)
[18:25] <rudedog1> my laptop is a lenovo and pretty much everything is working in it
[18:25] <nacc> mrottenkolber: you want the thing that is 'software' (in dash) and iirc, 'ubuntu software center' is deprecated
[18:25] <rudedog1> need to update the graphics to ati though
[18:25] <nacc> mrottenkolber: gnome software center is the future, iirc
[18:25] <nacc> TomyWork: you'd have to update their driver to be compatible with the tree you care about, by hand
[18:26] <nacc> TomyWork: non-trivial :/ or ask dell to update the driver?
[18:26] <TomyWork> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400 oh thanks for adding it :)
[18:26] <mrottenkolber> nacc: yeah, good riddance that thing was unresponsive...
[18:27] <usr13> mrottenkolber: Cut to the chase:  apt-cache, apt-get etc. etc.
[18:27] <nacc> TomyWork: but i don't think it will actually help your case, anyways -- as your issue is your dkms driver source is not buildable with the current kernel(s). A good driver source would do a version check and just error out if it's known not to work. I think that driver is bitrotted (and I see no further release from Dell?)
[18:28] <TomyWork> there's one for an old centos
[18:28] <TomyWork> but other than that
[18:28] <nacc> TomyWork: i would suggest contacting them to see if there are any updates, I've found that for active Dell developers, sometimes they actually have a github project where they take PRs and things
[18:28] <mrottenkolber> usr13: I thought just 'apt' was the new thing? Anyways, if I want to use the command line I use Slackware, and not this debian trash ;P
[18:28] <rudedog1> can anyone point me to a site that teaches you how to make your own themes
[18:29] <usr13> mrottenkolber: They both work.
[18:29] <nacc> TomyWork: in theory, what is that driver supposed to do? (sorry, missing context)
[18:29] <TomyWork> bluetooth
[18:29] <nacc> TomyWork: maybe you don't atually need it with xenial stack?
[18:30] <TomyWork> oh good point, i'll try but i dont think it will work
[18:30] <TomyWork> nacc http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/precision-m4800-workstation/drivers
[18:30] <kostkon> TomyWork, what made you go hunting for a driver?
[18:30] <TomyWork> it lists redhat 6.4 in addition to a bunch of windowses and ubuntu 12.04
[18:30] <TomyWork> kostkon well it never worked
[18:30] <kostkon> TomyWork, it's an unusual course of action in the linux world
[18:31] <nacc> TomyWork: yeah, i think dell's internal site is sort of garbage, as they support much newer ubuntu for other devices
[18:31] <nacc> TomyWork: it's like half the company (true of many) don't want to admit ubuntu exists :)
[18:31] <multifractal> I have this unusual problem on 16.04. The internet connection sliently seems to drop out, intermittently. Chrome will just spin the loading wheel and display a DNS error page after a certain length of time. Also happens in firefox. No internet problems with any other (Mac) laptops in the household.
[18:31] <multifractal> How can I begin diagnosing this?
[18:32] <nacc> TomyWork: 'never worked' in that it errored out? or your bluetooth device was not seen? or?
[18:32] <TomyWork> no sign of it working
[18:32] <nacc> TomyWork: anyting in dmesg relevant to bluetooth?
[18:32] <TomyWork> no bluetooth icon, bluedevil-wizard didnt show anything
[18:32] <nacc> TomyWork: i assume you have installed the blueman stuff
[18:32] <TomyWork> dmesg says firmware missing
[18:32] <nacc> TomyWork: can you pastebin the exact output?
[18:32] <TomyWork> 1 sec
[18:33] <OerHeks> TomyWork, use ' rfkill list all '  to see if it is blocked
[18:33] <multifractal> The whole WIFI experience is a little strange/buggy. e.g. the wifi icon has no signal bars at all, and when I click it I can't see my SSID in the drop-down menu.
[18:33] <TomyWork> [136845.835753] Bluetooth: can't load firmware, may not work correctly
[18:33] <TomyWork>         Soft blocked: no        Hard blocked: no
[18:33] <nacc> TomyWork: so that seems like you may have just gone down the wrong direction; not being able to load firmware (because say it can't find it), means the driver *is* working on some level
[18:34] <nacc> TomyWork: it just can't find thefirmware it needs :)
[18:34] <TomyWork> nacc oh
[18:34] <nacc> TomyWork: does it print what the firmware it is looking for?
[18:34] <nacc> bad sentence, but hopefully you get what i mean :)
[18:34] <TomyWork> well let me reboot, because i sure wont get it to work with an updated but not loaded kernel :)
[18:34] <nacc> heh
[18:34] <nacc> TomyWork: right
[18:35] <TomyWork> [136845.835752] usb 2-1.5: firmware: fw-413c_8143.hcd will not be loaded
[18:35] <TomyWork> that's 1 tick before the line i pasted before
[18:35] <nacc> interstingt
[18:35] <TomyWork> wait there's more
[18:35] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491738/
[18:36] <lxleuser> hi, can anyone help me in this? I installed lxle today. But there is no audio. What can I do now?
[18:36] <nacc> TomyWork: yeah that message (in the current kernel at least) gets printed if the user helper for loading firmware failed
[18:36] <nacc> TomyWork: does fw-413c_8143.hcd exist (probably under /lib/firmware) anywhere on your system?
[18:37] <pino56> cioa
[18:37] <pino56> list!
[18:37] <ducasse> lxleuser: lxle is not ubuntu, so not supported here.
[18:37] <ChetManly> so UFW black bluetooth?
[18:37] <ChetManly> blocks*
[18:37] <usr13> !sound | lxleuser
[18:37] <TomyWork> UFW?
[18:37] <multifractal> Has anyone experienced problems similar to this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2340739 I THINK that's the problem I have...
[18:37] <lxleuser> It is based on lubuntu, i guess.
[18:37] <TomyWork> ubuntu for windows? :)
[18:37] <ChetManly> !ufw
[18:38] <OerHeks> convert the windows firmware with this tool https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400/comments/11
[18:38] <usr13> TomyWork: http://askubuntu.com/questions/614319/ubuntu-15-04-bluetooth-no-adapters-found-dell-precision-m4800
[18:38] <nacc> OerHeks: yeah i'm thinking that's all that's missing
[18:38] <ducasse> lxleuser: yes, 'based on'. not 'the same as'.
[18:38] <kostkon> TomyWork, also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1356076/comments/6
[18:38] <TomyWork> usr13 the solution is downloading a bunch of stuff from dropbox... nope
[18:38] <nacc> TomyWork: it may be something like this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_(9343)#Bluetooth
[18:39] <TomyWork> nacc Sorry, this page was recently deleted (within the last 24 hours). The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.
[18:39] <kostkon> TomyWork, make sure you have removed the package from dell before attempting anything new
[18:39] <nacc> TomyWork: the archlinux page? i'm looking at it right now
[18:39] <TomyWork> wat
[18:39] <TomyWork> can you pastebin it? :D
[18:40] <nacc> TomyWork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491756/
[18:40] <kostkon> TomyWork, if it somehow got installed that is
[18:40] <ChetManly> noone knows
[18:40] <nacc> TomyWork: right, so first thing is, remove that oem package
[18:40] <nacc> TomyWork: as it just won't work anymore and will be noisy on every headers install as it will fail :/
[18:41] <TomyWork> removed
[18:41] <nacc> TomyWork: and fwiw, the link i pasted, won't be exactly the driver you need, but hte idea should be the same
[18:41] <nacc> OerHeks: --^ agreed?
[18:41] <OerHeks> nacc, yes, and use the firmware from the dell site itself
[18:41] <nacc> OerHeks: yep, that's where i'd get the .cab file from, if possible
[18:42] <Guest98944> ioria: just got solaar installed
[18:42] <Guest98944> it loads to a blank program
[18:42] <Guest98944> says 'select a device' and there is nothing
[18:42] <Guest98944> lol
[18:42] <Guest98944> nice try though
[18:42] <TomyWork> OerHeks ok, would the oem package build the hcd if it worked?
[18:42] <TomyWork> or would that work differently?
[18:43] <TomyWork> i'm just trying to save download time and salvage the ubuntu 12.04 driver package that i already have :)
[18:43] <usr13> TomyWork: did you look to see what is in /lib/firmware/brcm/?
[18:45] <TomyWork> a bunch of stuff
[18:45] <TomyWork> i'm not exactly sure which device i have
[18:45] <usr13> 20702?
[18:45] <TomyWork> i'll look through all those .debs in the driver package for a 04ca_2007 hcd
[18:46] <TomyWork> none found :/
[18:46] <usr13> !enter
[18:47] <usr13> TomyWork: So, looks like the firmware has yet to be downloaded
[18:47] <TomyWork> -rw-r--r-- root/root     34474 2013-04-02 07:36 ./lib/firmware/fw-413c_8143.hcd <-- there's just this one
[18:48] <TomyWork> Description: Firmware for Broadcom dw1550 bluetooth device 413c:8143
[18:48] <usr13> TomyWork: http://askubuntu.com/questions/767046/bluetooth-broadcom-bcm20702-does-not-load-firmware-driver-issue-14-04
[18:48] <usr13> TomyWork: Well, maybe fw-413c_8143.hcd is it.  I dono
[18:48] <pavlushka> is there any pdf reader with multitab feature?
[18:49] <usr13> acroread has multitab feature
[18:50] <devsys> Hi All, I have a ubuntu 16.04 server, how do I reset the connections to the server? I just added a DROP statement to my iptables INPUT chain, but I still see the connections persisting.
[18:50] <pavlushka> thanks usr13 :)
[18:50] <devsys> I tried conntrack -F but nothing
[18:50] <TomyWork> usr13 it says "[175802.452788] Bluetooth: firmware loaded" now, so maybe that was it...
[18:50] <devsys> conntrack -L shows no connections (definitely not the case)
[18:50] <usr13> pavlushka: So does qpdfview
[18:50] <TomyWork> after a modprobe -r btusb && modprobe btusb
[18:50] <TomyWork> hmm but maybe it always says that
[18:51] <usr13> pavlushka: I'm using qpdfview now.  It's pretty nice.  I think I like it better than acroread.  It appears to be more light-weight
[18:51] <usr13> pavlushka: And OpenSource
[18:52] <pavlushka> usr13: wow, I think that's what I need, thanks again :)
[18:52] <TomyWork> a "service bluetooth restart" later, an error message i had previously with "bluedeveil-wizard" is gone. maybe this works after all :)
[18:52] <usr13> pavlushka: NP
[18:52] <usr13> TomyWork: Cool....
[18:52] <praisethemoon> pavlushka, XDDDDDDDDDD
[18:52] <praisethemoon> GUESS WHOS BACK
[18:53] <TomyWork> how can i tell which devices btusb claimed?
[18:53] <usr13> TomyWork: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/bt-device.1.html
[18:54] <TomyWork> hmm, that's bluez
[18:54] <TomyWork> i think kubuntu is using something else, at least it's not installed
[18:54] <usr13> O
[18:54] <nacc> TomyWork: `bluetoothctl` iirc, will show you which bluetooth devices are detected?
[18:55] <TomyWork> nope
[18:55] <TomyWork> i think i'll try a reboot
[18:55] <TomyWork> my system is still in limbo after the kernel update :)
[18:59] <sktr> Hi, if i'm trying to dual-boot ubuntu, will it erase my Windows OS?
[18:59] <usr13> sktr: No, but only if you are careful to  leave the MS Windows Partition(s) alone.
[19:00] <usr13> sktr: You just have to pay attention during the install process.
[19:00] <sktr> okay, is there anything in particular i should try and look careful for?
[19:00] <usr13> sktr: Make sure you have free space to use.
[19:01] <sktr> how much do i need? i have about 600GB
[19:01] <usr13> sktr: If you do not have an expendable partition, you may need to make some arrangements for it.  Yes 600G is more than enough.
[19:02] <sktr> Okay, thanks
[19:02] <usr13> sktr: If you have 600GB unpartitioned free space, you are good to go.
[19:02] <TomyWork> ok so my system still works, but bluetooth still doesn't. what's improved is that rfkill list all now lists "4: dell-bluetooth: Bluetooth". It's still neither soft nor hard blocked
[19:02] <kostkon> sktr, before going ahead with it backup your most important data if you can, just to be on the safe side
[19:03] <Broken_Bells> if i wanna learn lua, what package should i install to get the interpreter?
[19:03] <usr13> sktr: If not, MS Windows has a non-destructive partition manager now-days and you should use it.
[19:03] <usr13> sktr: As Broken_Bells points out, *always* back up your important data.
[19:03] <sktr> usr13: ok thanks. just asking, how much should i allocate for ubuntu?
[19:03] <sktr> i'll be using it mainly for dev
[19:04] <TomyWork> on the negative side, bluedevil-wizard shows "QObject::connect: Cannot connect (null)::deviceFound(QVariantMap) to DiscoverPage::deviceFound(QVariantMap)" again. But now that I take a closer look at it, it looks more like a buggy wizard to me
[19:04] <usr13> sktr: It all depends on what you want to do.  100G would be enough, 600G is more than enough
[19:04] <afsafasfs> hi. do i need bad-block check my swap partition?
[19:05] <usr13> sktr: The initial install will be <50G
[19:05] <usr13> afsafasfs: I normally don't bother
[19:05] <sktr> usr13: ok good, i only have one hard-drive so i'm trying to preserve as much memory as i can
 Why?
[19:06] <usr13> I dono, I just don't
[19:06] <usr13> afsafasfs: But it's a good idea to do it.
[19:07] <usr13> afsafasfs: for 6 or 8G it won't take long, so go for it.
 how can i do it?
[19:07] <nacc> TomyWork: i've never used bluedevil, sorry
[19:07] <TomyWork> # bt-device -l  # org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter: No such adapter
[19:08] <bluenails> trying to get conky working in yackity yak, and I am watting to do battery monitoring. However /proc/acpi/battery doesn't exist. I have installed acpi and just typing acpi at the command line gives me the battery status. (I installed from minimal iso, so there might be an acpi component I am missing?)
[19:08] <TomyWork> a page i'm reading suggests bluetoothctl, but that doesnt seem to be found by apt-file search
[19:09] <nacc> TomyWork: it comes from bluez
[19:09] <nacc> TomyWork: iirc
[19:09] <TomyWork> it seems i have bluez installed
[19:09] <usr13> afsafasfs: mkswap -c
[19:09] <nacc> bluenails: iirc, /proc/acpi/battery is now in sysfs
[19:09] <TomyWork> the bluetooth service is from it. bluedevil might just be a frontend
[19:09] <nacc> TomyWork: could be, yeah
[19:10] <bluenails> nacc: any idea how to get conky to look there? or do I need to make a symlink?
 ) thanks for not answer in style "man mkswap, m****er!" XD
[19:10] <TomyWork> bt-device is from bluez-tools, which i just installed and it says "org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter: No such adapter". I guess that means i still have a firmware problem
[19:11] <kostkon> bluenails, you could edit the conky script responsible for that although i cannot help you on the specifics
[19:11] <nacc> bluenails: i don't think a symlink is appropriate, as it will be lost on every boot
[19:11] <nacc> bluenails: i think it's a conky bug, if i had to guess
[19:11] <bluenails> nacc hmm I think most of conky is C not scripts :(
[19:11] <usr13> afsafasfs: Yea, never much cared for the RTFM answers either.
[19:11] <nacc> bluenails: i believe that was for kostkon ?
[19:12] <praisethemoon> hello everyone.
[19:12] <bluenails> nacc: koston: oops yes
[19:12] <bluenails> koston: most of conky is C not scripts, and the conky config doesn
[19:12] <bluenails> kostton: seem to allow to specify path for BAT0
[19:12] <nacc> TomyWork: i think you want `bt-adapter -l`
[19:13] <nacc> TomyWork: `bt-device` is for connected bluetooth devices, iiuc
[19:13] <TomyWork> No adapters found
[19:13] <kostkon> bluenails, afaik conky functionality can be extended with scripts so that could be the case for the battery info as well
[19:13] <nacc> TomyWork: ok, that is a "better" (more accurate) message
[19:13] <kostkon> bluenails, in other words the battery info is provided by a conky script
[19:13] <\9> i just got a scary looking "usb usb2-port1: unable to enumerate USB device" message in dmesg that showed up during live session boot, but the system still booted fine and i can use e.g. this irc over ssh as well as firefox
[19:13] <bluenails> kostkon: yeah, I could pretty much reimpliment the battery functionality with scripts, but that is a much bigger overhead, and I am on a tiny system.
[19:14] <\9> should i be concerned_
[19:14] <\9> ?
[19:14] <bluenails> kostkon: do you know where these scripts are, because I was pretty sure pretty much everything in the man page was C not scripts.
[19:14] <nacc> TomyWork: can you pastebin `lsusb -vvv` ?
[19:14] <nacc> TomyWork: or if you want to look yourself, you should see an entry there for a Bluetooth protocol device
[19:15] <TomyWork> nacc The device corresponding to the firmware i installed earlier is: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 413c:8143 Dell Computer Corp.
[19:15] <TomyWork> lsusb -t doesnt list it
[19:15] <TomyWork> i'll pastebin lsusb -vvv
[19:15] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491881/ lsusb -vvv
 man says, that i need do mkswap -c before creating swap. do i need check newly founded (with Gparted) swap partition?
[19:16] <dalput> if I want to find & replace text with bash with sed, how can I replace 1 out of 2 duplicate words ? let's say there is AA AA BB BB and I want to make it AA CC BB BB?
[19:16] <bluenails> dang it gtg work
[19:17] <nacc> TomyWork: hrm, so it's not a USB device? I thought you were looking at btusb? can you pastebin `dmesg` for me?
[19:17] <usr13> afsafasfs: Yes,  mkswap -c /dev/sdaX  (mkswap creates the fs for swap).
[19:18] <TomyWork> nacc i do think it's a usb device, yes
[19:18] <EriC^^> dalput: sed 's/AA AA/AA/g'
[19:18] <TomyWork> internally connected though
[19:18] <usr13> afsafasfs: Gparted may have some utility for checking for bad blocks as well.  I don't know for sure ....
[19:18] <nacc> TomyWork: if it's a USB device, lsusb would show it :/ regardless of its connectivity
[19:18] <nacc> TomyWork: oh it's there
[19:18] <TomyWork> ctrl-f 8143
[19:19] <nacc> TomyWork: it's not reporting itself as a bluetooth device
[19:19] <usr13> afsafasfs: But yea, you have to create the partition first.
[19:19] <TomyWork> google says "A Bcm20702a0 is a bluetooth device.", so i think i'm on the right track
[19:19] <dalput> EriC^^: that removes 'aa aa' and makes it 'aa', I want to replace only the SECOND aa and leave everything intact. or should I look for an other command instead of sed ?
[19:19] <dalput> EriC^^: so 'aa aa bb bb' becomes 'aa cc bb bb'
[19:20] <TomyWork> nacc https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/03/msg00243.html this seems related
[19:20] <EriC^^> dalput: you're not getting this are you :P
[19:20] <CrazyJoey> Hello?
[19:20] <EriC^^> dalput: sed 's/AA AA/AA CC/g'
[19:21] <nacc> TomyWork: which kernel are you on now?
[19:21] <usr13> afsafasfs: Also, make sure the swap partition is not in use when you mkswap it.
[19:21] <bivo> EriC^^ Interesting development from yesterday, it seems that the files aren't deleted, but are just not visible, unsure how to access them though
[19:21] <TomyWork> Linux mymachine 4.4.0-47-generic #68~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:42:11 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:21] <CrazyJoey> I have a question....
[19:21] <usr13> bivo: ls -a
[19:21] <TomyWork> that's from the enablement stack
[19:21] <CrazyJoey> ....is it possible for MDADM to handle more than one RAID array?
 i created, it already established as swap, but Gparted have gray entry for "check". So will i need recreate it with like mkswap -c /dev/sdaX ?
[19:22] <nacc> TomyWork: that patch was applied to 3.2, so it's in allt he kernels you've tested (afaict)
[19:22] <EriC^^> bivo: can you remind me of the problem?
[19:22] <dalput> EriC^^: yes, that's an option. but is there an option to let's browse a file and replace SOME instances, not all ? imagine if there were 50 of those, and I needed to only replace the 5 and the 15th
[19:22] <dalput> EriC^^: I swear I saw this somewhere, now I'm lost
[19:22] <nacc> TomyWork: if it wasn't, it wouldn't even see your device
[19:22] <nacc> TomyWork: oh wait, let me check one thing
[19:22] <TomyWork> ok
[19:22] <EriC^^> dalput: try #bash they probably know
 i have no way to check existent swap?
[19:22] <EriC^^> or ##linux
[19:22] <dalput> EriC^^: just found it, thanks
[19:22] <bivo> EriC^^ files on an NFTS volume that where seemingly auto deleted on an accidental drop onto the trash can.
[19:22] <dalput> the channel that is
[19:23] <EriC^^> bivo: aha, right
[19:23] <usr13> afsafasfs: Well, I don't know what it would do, maybe nothing if it's not being used.
[19:23] <CrazyJoey> hi?
[19:23] <bivo> EriC^^ data recovery efforts we tried yesterday only showed a .trashes file having been deleted
[19:23] <usr13> afsafasfs: free
[19:23] <EriC^^> bivo: so what makes you think they aren't deleted? the disk usage?
[19:23] <usr13> afsafasfs: (look and see)
[19:24] <nacc> TomyWork: can you pastebin the output of `usb-devices` ?
[19:24] <TomyWork> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491929/
[19:24] <usr13> afsafasfs: And you can temporarily turn it off, (if it's not in use).
[19:24] <TomyWork> i get 2 errors on stderr in addition to that: /usr/bin/usb-devices: line 79: printf: c: invalid number and /usr/bin/usb-devices: line 79: printf: d: invalid number
[19:25] <nacc> TomyWork: ah ha, you can see there that the 413c device has no 'driver'
[19:25] <nacc> hrm
[19:25] <nacc> TomyWork: did you pastebin dmesg?
[19:25] <bivo> EriC^^ volume size, that Caja says that the delete was undone, as well as if I try to unmount the drive it asks if I want to empty the trash
[19:25] <TomyWork> is "driver" something else than "firmware"?
[19:25] <usr13> afsafasfs: swapoff /dev/sdX
 wait... )
[19:25] <EriC^^> bivo: try sudo lsof | grep <some filename>
[19:25] <TomyWork> nacc that's a ton of text. do i need to anonymize that?
[19:25] <EriC^^> bivo: maybe they're still open
[19:26] <usr13> afsafasfs: Why are you wanting to search for bad blocks on your swap partition?  Are you having some problem?
[19:26] <EriC^^> bivo: aha and does ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files show them?
 just for lulz, i have old machine.
[19:27] <TomyWork> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491933/ oh well here it is :)
[19:27] <nacc> TomyWork: probably not, I guess it depends on if you think there's anything sensitive; ususally there is not. If you are really worried, I can have you grep, i'm just worried we'll miss something then
[19:27] <usr13> afsafasfs: And after you are done with mkswap, you can turn it back on again.  swapon /dev/sdx
[19:27] <nacc> TomyWork: ok, try this: `modprobe btusb`
[19:27] <TomyWork> oh, that wasnt loaded?
[19:28] <TomyWork> (i checked lsmod first)
[19:28] <usr13> lsmod |grep usb
 yes. it is bad: ( warning: wiping old swap signature.)?
[19:29] <TomyWork> nacc btusb is loaded now (it wasnt before the modprobe). bt-adapter -l still says no adapters found
[19:30] <usr13> afsafasfs: Well then, maybe you need to move the swap partition to another location.  Or just not use it.  Don't use swap at all, or use a swap file?
[19:30] <TomyWork> does bt-adapter go via the bluetooth service? is it worth restarting that?
[19:30] <mint> hello
[19:30] <TomyWork> still not working, anyway :/
[19:30] <usr13> afsafasfs: Wait, if it just says "wiping old swap signature", I'm not so sure that it's really bad.
[19:31] <TomyWork> btw, i really only installed firmware. do i need a driver in addition to that?
[19:31] <TomyWork> i have no idea how this works, really :)
[19:31] <usr13> afsafasfs: "wiping old swap signature" may be normal.
[19:31] <afsafasfs> 0 bad pages mkswap: /dev/sda2: warning: wiping old swap signature. Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 12.2 GiB (13113487360 bytes) no label, UUID=3dc0d01b-6f95-463b-a75f-4046960e954d ?
[19:31] <mint> can anyone help me setting a shamba share? I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[19:31] <ducasse> afsafasfs: that's normal
[19:32] <mint> but smbclient reports: mint@mint ~ $ smbclient -L //192.168.1.128/storage -U metalliko
[19:32] <mint> WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
[19:32] <mint> Enter metalliko's password:
[19:32] <mint> Connection to 192.168.1.128 failed (Error NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT)
[19:32] <kostkon> mint, are you on mint?
[19:32] <ducasse> !mint | mint
[19:32] <bivo> EriC^^ Found it! The files are all still here in '/media/med/2 tb/.Trash-1000/files/Backup'
[19:32] <nacc> TomyWork: can you paste dmesg again?
[19:32] <usr13> mint: So you are sharing a directory with a MS Windows PC on your network?
[19:33] <mint> no 2 mint machines
[19:33] <TomyWork> nacc, there is only one extra line: [ 1749.417408] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
[19:33] <usr13> mint: Don't paste multi lines here, use a pastebin.
[19:33] <usr13> mint: So why not just use nfs?
[19:33] <mint> ok sorry usr13
[19:33] <usr13> !nfs | mint
[19:33] <mint> nfs?
[19:34] <mint> ok i will try that
[19:34] <usr13> mint: If you are not intending to share with a MS Windows PC, I would suggest just using nfs.
[19:34] <TomyWork> mint  if it's just ad-hoc, sshfs can work for you, too
[19:34] <usr13> mint: Good luck. (Happy file sharing :)
 <ducasse> D'OH! Thanks, goodbye!
[19:35] <nacc> TomyWork: do you see in the `usb-devices` output, any change?
[19:35] <TomyWork> mint, it's easier to set up if you already have working ssh/scp, imo
[19:35] <EriC^^> bivo: awesome!
[19:35] <mint> i already tryed sshfs without luck
[19:35] <EriC^^> bivo: how did you find it, i'm curious
[19:35] <mint> i will rty nfs
[19:35] <usr13> afsafasfs: Ok, haveagoodone.
[19:35] <mint> *try
[19:35] <TomyWork> nacc uh 1 sec, i need to diff :)
[19:35] <EriC^^> bivo: ah, right
[19:36] <EriC^^> bivo: i forgot, if it's not on the root partition, it gets moved to a dir in the filesystem with the user's uid, .Trash-uid
[19:36] <TomyWork> nacc no changes
[19:37] <EriC^^> bivo: well that's that, great :D
[19:40] <TomyWork> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23491990/ that's what's in the driver package. i only installed "debs/bt-dw1550-firmware_0.1_all.deb" from that. do i need more than that maybe?
[19:40] <bivo> EriC^^ I remembered that the trash files where kept locally on each drive,
[19:41] <bivo> EriC^^ The things you remember when you've had a bit of time to sleep on them
[19:42] <EriC^^> bivo: yeah :D
[19:42] <TomyWork> nacc that package gave me a "/lib/firmware/fw-413c_8143.hcd", which does look like it belongs to the usb device id 413c:8143
[19:43] <bivo> EriC^^ Because I was actually considering attempting to recover the files from Windows with Recuvue, but I was unsure if that would work if there was a difference between how Linux and Windows deletes files, as I've never attempted that before.
[19:44] <mint> na
[19:44] <mint> nfs also fails
[19:44] <EriC^^> bivo: always great to have a crisis averted
[19:44] <TomyWork> mint  can you ping?
[19:44] <mint> same as smb an sshfs
[19:44] <mint> yes
[19:44] <TomyWork> just thought i'd ask :)
[19:44] <EriC^^> bivo: data recovery can be a b.....
[19:44] <TomyWork> mint can you ssh?
[19:45] <nacc> TomyWork: ah ah! i figured out the underlying issue ... i don't think the mainline btusb driver in use in xenial has the device id for your adapter
[19:45] <nacc> TomyWork: let me see if mainline does
[19:45] <mint> I don't know how to ssh TomyWork
[19:45] <TomyWork> mint open a terminal and type "ssh remoteuser@remotemachine"
[19:46] <nacc> TomyWork: nope, it does not either
[19:46] <mint> ok
[19:46] <bivo> EriC^^ yeah, this is the first time I've had to do it on Linux, I've done so on Mac and Windows, more terminal-fu is required I guess.
[19:46] <TomyWork> nacc what do you mean doesnt have the device id. can i force it to adopt it anyway?
[19:47] <wruser> hello
[19:47] <mint> TomyWork: na, ssh hangs there without giving any output
[19:47] <nacc> TomyWork: so the way devices work in the kernel is that the vendor and product are matched to konw if they are supported
[19:47] <mint> just like nfs
[19:47] <mint> mount.nfs: Connection timed out
[19:48] <mint> same as sshfs and smb
[19:48] <TomyWork> mint can you type "ssh -v remoteuser@remotemachine" instead
[19:48] <nacc> TomyWork: in your case, 413c is the vendor (dell & broadcom, i hitnk) but the product (8143) is not listed int he kernels' sources
[19:48] <TomyWork> mint oh ok that's pretty clear already
[19:48] <nacc> TomyWork: so the btusb driver doesn't know your device is one it should support (because officially it doesn't)
[19:48] <TomyWork> nacc can i override that list in the sources via config?
[19:49] <nacc> TomyWork: no, you need to build a new kernel, i think ... although maybe you can trick udev
[19:49] <nacc> TomyWork: but even then, no, the driver will still fail to match
[19:49] <mint> i'm missing something obvious?
[19:49] <TomyWork> mint firewall, possibly
[19:49] <TomyWork> or misconfigured interfaces
[19:49] <TomyWork> are you using dhcp on both?
[19:50] <mint> mint's firefall or router's?
[19:50] <TomyWork> are you on a "surf and mail only" guest wifi?
[19:50] <mint> dhcp
[19:50] <mint> nop
[19:50] <TomyWork> no wifi at all?
[19:50] <mint> my home wifi
[19:50] <TomyWork> can you switch to a cable?
[19:50] <mint> wifi works well i can ping the other machine
[19:50] <TomyWork> nacc drat... so that's why that package contains kernel packages :)
[19:51] <nacc> TomyWork: yeah, hav eyou looked at: 1382490
[19:51] <nacc> TomyWork: err, LP: #1382490
[19:51] <TomyWork> mint ping is icmp, ssh is tcp
[19:51] <mint> no TomyWork this laptot doesn't have rj45
[19:51] <nacc> TomyWork: that's specific to your device, with an advice by the vendor of how to workaround the lack of support
[19:51] <EriC^^> bivo: yeah, linux's power is in the cli
[19:51] <nacc> TomyWork: both firmware and driver, i think
[19:51] <mint> so is a problem with the network, i was thinking that
[19:52] <mint> any ideas?
[19:52] <MasterOfAllEvil> What's the issue?
[19:53] <TomyWork> nacc chih is the vendor?
[19:53] <EriC^^> bivo: i've not used mac yet, maybe some day in the future
[19:54] <mint> cant create a share between 2 mint machines MasterOfAllEvil
[19:54] <mint> already tryed smb sshfs and nfs
[19:54] <mint> with no luck
[19:54] <TempAcc499> http://mibpaste.com/hy9lHo would this be an okay SSD to run Ubuntu on? It's a small 20GB drive. I most likely want to run Xubuntu.
[19:54] <TomyWork> nacc well that linked thread suggests creating a .hcd with hex2hcd and reloading btusb. i have a .hcd and reloaded btusb
[19:54] <nacc> TomyWork: works for them, yes
[19:55] <nicomachus> I am getting some really, really odd behavior from Google Chrome. It opens up and everything in the window is just completely scrambled. Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23492040/
[19:55] <bivo> EriC^^ eh, I used Macs where there was a point to using them, in the pre Intel days, now they are fast on their way to being an overpriced iOS device. If you want to try out OS X just try it in a VM or build an OSx86 box.
[19:55] <TomyWork> well i can try a newer driver... a colleague with the same laptop sits across the room :)
[19:55] <ducasse> mint: look at the logs for what the problem is. other than that: https://linuxmint.com/contactus.php
[19:56] <EriC^^> bivo: isn't osx not vm compatible?
[19:56] <nacc> TomyWork: it's possible that the firmware is searched for in /lib/firmware/brcm ?
[19:56] <nacc> TomyWork: you could try copying the firmware file there and `modprobe -r btusb; modprobe btusb`
[19:56] <EriC^^> bivo: i was under the impression you they can't be run in a vm
[19:57] <OerHeks> TempAcc499, any ssd will do
[19:57] <nicomachus> The weird thing is, I can't even get a screenshot of it. It just shows my background image.
[19:57] <EriC^^> bivo: i will look into it, thanks!
[19:57] <TempAcc499> Okay, I am wanting to switch to Linux this laptop is getting a bit sluggish running on W7. OerHeks
[19:57] <OerHeks> TempAcc499, don't compare read/.write times, the 0 sec access time is a breeze itself
[19:57] <ioria> nicomachus, vm ?
[19:57] <nicomachus> ioria: yes.
[19:57] <ioria> nicomachus, https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77404
[19:58] <TomyWork> nacc nope, still no bt-adapter -l output
[19:58] <bivo> EriC^^ certain versions are, server license, can be found if you you know where to look. There is also likely a hack to make it work, like there was to make newer PPC versions compatible with unsupported models with hacked drivers and system files
[19:58] <TomyWork> well, except "No adapters found"
[19:58] <nacc> TomyWork: any change in dmesg?
[19:58] <mrchairman> If I delete a hardlink, will it delete the original file the link is pointing too?
[19:58] <TomyWork> [ 3528.219647] usbcore: deregistering interface driver btusb [ 3528.286197] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
[19:58] <nicomachus> ioria: huh. that's interesting.
[19:58] <ioria> nicomachus,  good luck
[19:58] <OerHeks> mrchairman, normally not.
[19:59] <EriC^^> bivo: aha, i see
[19:59] <TempAcc499> Thanks for the reply. OerHeks
[19:59] <mrchairman> Thanks OerHeks
[19:59] <nicomachus> ioria: I can't shut down the VM right now to disable 3D, but I'll give that a shot. I'm in 16.10, not 16.04, but I assume the issue is the same.
[19:59] <TheMarius> TempAcc499, try linux mint or ubuntu then :) look at the desktop you like and install
[19:59] <ioria> nicomachus,  probably
[19:59] <TomyWork> mint does iptables -L list anything but headers on either machine?
[20:00] <OerHeks> TheMarius, please don't suggest mint
[20:00] <TheMarius> why not
[20:00] <mint> why no?
[20:00] <TomyWork> TheMarius because this is #ubuntu :)
[20:00] <mint> *not
[20:00] <OerHeks> mint is not suppported here .. and slower than ubuntu
[20:00] <TomyWork> #ubuntu can't suggest mint without also supporting mint
[20:00] <TempAcc499> I was thinking either Lubuntu or Xubuntu something light because I only use this laptop for browsing and streaming things from my server.
[20:00] <TheNH813> Having problems with two things. I'l start with the easier one. My PS/2 adaptor works for a few seconds and quits.
[20:00] <TempAcc499> I'd probably only need chromium/firefox and mpv player honestly for the time being.
[20:01] <TheMarius> mint ran with less bugs on my puter.. which is why i run it.. however i see it as a dialect of ubuntu
[20:01] <nacc> TheMarius: it's a fork
[20:01] <TheNH813> It could bad a bad cable on the adaptor, but it could also be a drivers issue. Prior to current versions of Linux, it only worked with keyboards, although it's also supposed to work with mice.
[20:01] <OerHeks> TheMarius, and mint has its own issues
[20:01] <TomyWork> TheMarius try getting by on high german in switzerland :)
[20:01] <nacc> TomyWork: ok, so i updated LP: #1382490, let's see what they say
[20:01] <TheMarius> nacc: i know... its allmost the same
[20:01] <TheNH813> Any suggestions where to start troubleshooting?
[20:02] <nacc> TheMarius: the differences are so key and you're glossing over all of them.
[20:02] <TheMarius> sigh
[20:02] <Bashing-om> !minimal | TempAcc499 If you are handy . FAST and very light :
[20:03] <TomyWork> nacc ok suppose i'm not afraid of rebuilding the btusb module from source, can i just add 8143 to that list and recompile the module?
[20:03] <TempAcc499> I'll look into that thanks.
[20:03] <nacc> TomyWork: right, that's what i'd try -- and i think it should go into the latter section, which refers specifically to dell laptops
[20:03] <TempAcc499> This laptop isn't very old but trying to speed it up by running Linux.
[20:03] <TomyWork> nacc uh, would i need to rebuild the entire kernel?
[20:03] <nacc> TomyWork: so you could do that, modprobe  -r btusb and `insmod btusb.ko`, but you might get mismatches; so you have to build specific to the same kernel
[20:04] <nacc> TomyWork: are you comfortable trying a test kernel if i build it for you? I won't be able to guarantee it works or anything, but
[20:04] <nacc> TomyWork: it would be a package then, that you can unisntall
[20:04] <ioria> TempAcc499, you'll need a gui ?
[20:04] <nacc> TomyWork: you might be able to grab the kernel soruce package, build it and just insmod, like i said, if you know how
[20:04] <TomyWork> depends. the building here stopped heating 4 minutes ago, so i'll have to leave soon or freeze to death :D
[20:05] <nacc> TomyWork: i'd put it in a ppa, you can use it whenver you want
[20:05] <TomyWork> cool
[20:05] <TempAcc499> I'm hoping to use either Lubuntu or Xubuntu. ioria
[20:05] <nacc> TomyWork: give me a few secs
[20:05] <Bashing-om> TempAcc499: Many times .. the best menas of speeding up a system is give it more ram to work with .. (u)buntu wants at least 2 Gigs . The other flavors will get by on less .. but getting by is not flying .
[20:06] <nacc> TomyWork: https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/lp1382490 will be where i'll upload the package to
[20:06] <nicomachus> TempAcc499: A lot of laptops will allow you to upgrade RAM. And that can go a long way. Might look into that.
[20:06] <TempAcc499> I'm currently at 4GBs RAM and don't want to invest anymore in the laptop. I think the processor is holding it back more than anything.
[20:06] <nicomachus> TempAcc499: what's the CPU model?
[20:06] <TempAcc499> It has an I3 2367M 1.4GHz
[20:07] <nicomachus> Sounds like a Dell Inspiron
[20:07] <TempAcc499> And I couldn't install windows currently on the rather small SSD. So when I switch to Ubuntu the OS will go onto the SSD.
[20:07] <ducasse> TempAcc499: i have a first-gen i3 laptop, been fine since i put an ssd in it.
[20:07] <TomyWork> nacc ok i added it
[20:07] <TempAcc499> It's an Acer laptop not anything special.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> TempAcc499: That processor and 4 Gigs if ram will support what ever you care to install .
[20:07] <nacc> TomyWork: it won't have anything in it for now, will ping when i upload
[20:07] <TomyWork> thanks
[20:07] <nacc> TomyWork: it'll take some time to build
[20:07] <TempAcc499> I only use it to browse and stream/download from my server.
[20:07] <TomyWork> how long, usually
[20:07] <draxdeveloper> hello, i have just installed Ubuntu and i trying to install wine. But i can't
[20:07] <ioria> TempAcc499, you'll be good with lubuntu ... even with Ubuntu
[20:08] <nacc> TomyWork: probably a few hours, at least, so feel free to go get warm at home :)
[20:08] <draxdeveloper> seems to have a broken package
[20:08] <TomyWork> oh :D
[20:08] <draxdeveloper> but this is a fresh install
[20:08] <ioria> TempAcc499,  but if you need resources, Lubuntu is the right choice
[20:08] <TomyWork> i guess i'll come back tomorrow then :)
[20:08] <nacc> draxdeveloper: please pastebin the exact command used and output
[20:08] <nacc> TomyWork: i'll be here
[20:08] <TomyWork> thanks in advance :)
[20:08] <draxdeveloper> hum... I have to change my language to do this. Wait a sec.
[20:09] <younder> do what?
[20:09] <Bashing-om> TempAcc499: Acer on linux has it's issues ( read vendor lockin) . see: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 <- oldfred : Ubuntu on Acer Aspire new Laptop .
[20:09] <draxdeveloper> my ubuntu is in pt-br. So you will not understand
[20:10] <TempAcc499> Do you think it's only for the newer models? Bashing-om
[20:10] <TempAcc499> Mine is an older aspire model
[20:10] <Bashing-om> TempAcc499: Well . mostly .. but Acer has a long history .
[20:10] <TomyWork> nacc what kernel version are you basing on?
[20:12] <nacc> TomyWork: 4.4.0-49.70 (which is what is in trusty-proposed) -- would you rather i go with what is in trusty-updates ?
[20:12] <Bashing-om> TempAcc499: Maybe look at : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974392 <-Dual booting UEFI equipped notebook - Acer Aspire 5560
[20:12] <TempAcc499> I'll do some more reading - mine is the Aspire S3-391.
[20:13] <TempAcc499> I could use the live CD to test it out first before formating/installing right?
[20:13] <TheMarius> aaaanyway unity 8 looks good
[20:13] <sruli> how can i wrap a forward slash "/" in a bash variable?
[20:14] <younder> with a \/
[20:14] <ioria> TempAcc499,  sure... but it runs in ram .... so it's a test only for compatibility
[20:14] <TomyWork> nacc nah, should be fine :)
[20:14] <TempAcc499> Ah okay
[20:15] <draxdeveloper> i am back, here: http://pastebin.com/uSfVnRF8
[20:15] <raub> If I ping a host in my vlan (as in ping hostname -c 1), shouldn't arp -a show it?
[20:16] <ioria> draxdeveloper, apt-cache policy wine
[20:16] <draxdeveloper> http://pastebin.com/XnwsHi6r
[20:17] <draxdeveloper> wait, this means that my ubuntu version it's 14?
[20:17] <ioria> nope
[20:18] <draxdeveloper> it's says: Candidate: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14
[20:18] <ioria> !info wine xenial
[20:18] <nacc> draxdeveloper: you are running 16.04 (well the 16.04 repository is configurd, at least); lsb_release -a will tell you
[20:18] <draxdeveloper> yep, xenial
[20:19] <kostkon> draxdeveloper, it also says ubutnu xenial so you are on 16.04
[20:19] <ioria> draxdeveloper, 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14 (xenial) is correc
[20:19] <TomyWork> nacc is there any way to build just the modules?
[20:19] <TomyWork> it's make after all, isnt it?
[20:19] <TomyWork> i got the source tree here
[20:19] <nacc> TomyWork: yes, but an unbuilt source tree
[20:19] <TomyWork> make btusb.ko - no dice
[20:19] <draxdeveloper> so why wine have broken packages?
[20:19] <nacc> TomyWork: you could try `make M=drivers/bluetooth/`
[20:19] <draxdeveloper> The only thing i installed here is synaptic and chrome
[20:19] <nacc> draxdeveloper: you have yet to show *any* evidence of breakage
[20:20] <nacc> draxdeveloper: i asked very specifically for what command and output you get; you showed a policy output which says you have not installed wine.
[20:20] <docmur> I'm doing a debootstrap install of ubuntu 16.04.1, then running a script inside a chroot of that install to apt-get the kernel and grub.  Once I have those I run grub-install /dev/sda, but when I reboot I keep getting a kernel panaic, saying it's missing a initrd
[20:20] <ioria> nacc, http://pastebin.com/uSfVnRF8
[20:20] <draxdeveloper> nacc, but i have not installed wine
[20:20] <draxdeveloper> nacc, i just can't install
[20:20] <nacc> draxdeveloper: sorry, i missed that one
[20:21] <nacc> draxdeveloper: apt-cache policy wine1.6?
[20:21] <draxdeveloper> nacc http://pastebin.com/uSfVnRF8
[20:21] <draxdeveloper> this what i get when try to install wine
[20:21] <nacc> draxdeveloper: no, that is for wine, wine1.6
[20:21] <nacc> draxdeveloper: err, sorry, that paste i've seen
[20:22] <nacc> draxdeveloper: i'm asking for a new one, for the policy for wine1.6
[20:22] <younder> you loathe the broken bit
[20:22] <nacc> TomyWork: fyi, uploaded (4.4.0-49.70~14.04.2~ppa1), it's building now
[20:22] <TomyWork> nacc make, wait a few seconds, then the command you wrote :)
[20:23] <OerHeks> draxdeveloper, try sudo apt-get install wine:i386
[20:23] <nacc> TomyWork: you're not using secure boot or anything, right?
[20:23] <draxdeveloper> here, http://pastebin.com/6z3ikFEY
[20:23] <TomyWork> nacc not that i know
[20:23] <TomyWork> i guess i'll see? :D
[20:23] <draxdeveloper> DerHeks, but i use a 64 ubuntu
[20:23] <OerHeks> draxdeveloper, likely there is no wine:amd64
[20:23] <TomyWork> i'll try just overwriting the btusb.ko i just built
[20:24] <nacc> draxdeveloper: no, `apt-cache policy wine1.6`, exactly as written (no space between wine an 1.6)
[20:24] <nacc> OerHeks: both are built for i386 and amd64
[20:24] <nacc> TomyWork: right so you'll need to modprobe -r btusb
[20:24] <nacc> TomyWork: and then insmod /path/to/btusb.ko
[20:24] <ioria> draxdeveloper, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[20:25] <TomyWork> cp --backup drivers/bluetooth/btusb.ko /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/kernel/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.ko && modprobe -r btusb && modprobe btusb
[20:25] <TomyWork> works just as well :)
[20:25] <TomyWork> buuut, Exec format error
[20:25] <draxdeveloper> nacc, here: http://pastebin.com/wxzZcyFu
[20:25] <nacc> TomyWork: `file btusb.ko` ?
[20:25] <TomyWork> I guess the "WARNING: Symbol version dump ./Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions." did mean something :)
[20:26] <sdfksdfk> what can I do about the performance hit I'm taking
[20:26] <sdfksdfk> I came from windows 7
[20:26] <nacc> TomyWork: note that wont'w ork correctly on the next boot, as you also need to rebuild the intiramfs
[20:26] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: what kind of performance hit?
[20:26] <draxdeveloper> ioria, it's returns i386
[20:26] <nicomachus> details pls
[20:26] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: litterally everything.
[20:26] <nacc> draxdeveloper: maybe try the output of `apt install wine wine1.6`
[20:26] <sdfksdfk> GPU performance took a hit (probably need to setup the proprietary drivers) disk I/O took a hit.
[20:26] <nacc> TomyWork: maybe, i'm guessing you'll see errors in dmesg from the failed load
[20:26] <sdfksdfk> Network IO took a hit
[20:27] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: be more specific. "took a hit"?
[20:27] <TomyWork> [ 5294.924036] btusb: no symbol version for module_layout
[20:27] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: Performacnce drops
[20:27] <TomyWork> so i was right :)
[20:27] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: ok. what is the ubuntu version and hardware specs?
[20:27] <nacc> TomyWork: yeah, so it wasn't built the way ubuntu builds, and then it flaked out
[20:27] <draxdeveloper> nacc, http://pastebin.com/Uw0MbJdw
[20:27] <TomyWork> i need a Module.symvers
[20:28] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: 16.04 LTS 8gb ram, 1tb HDD, phenom 955
[20:28] <sdfksdfk> I also have a r9 270x
[20:28] <TomyWork> nacc /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-47-generic/Module.symvers i guess i'll use this one? :)
[20:28] <nacc> TomyWork: you need to make sure to use the ubuntu configuration file
[20:28] <nacc> TomyWork: it's not that trivial
[20:28] <TomyWork> ./drivers/bluetooth/Module.symvers or this one? huh?
[20:28] <nacc> TomyWork: can you just wait til the package is done building?
[20:28] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: can you please paste the output of "sudo lshw" to a pastebin and link here? Need to make sure all the drivers are installed and are the right ones.
[20:29] <TomyWork> nacc sure, i just thought i'd poke around a bit in case there are errors after that :)
[20:29] <ioria> draxdeveloper, try to update/upgrade the system
[20:29] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: one sec
[20:29] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:29] <sdfksdfk> I'm locking up badly.
[20:30] <draxdeveloper> http://pastebin.com/z6gLQj4r
[20:30] <draxdeveloper> it's have an error in the xenius repository o0
[20:30] <sdfksdfk> http://termbin.com/qsml
[20:30] <nacc> ioria: good catch, looks to be out of sync maybe
[20:31] <draxdeveloper> but it's seems the system is updated
[20:31] <ioria> nacc, yeah
[20:31] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  how can you know ?
[20:32] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: One piece of good news. I got TF2 and steam to work on linux :>
[20:32] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: drivers look good.
[20:32] <draxdeveloper> ioria, http://pastebin.com/u3c23By4
[20:32] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: are you getting slowdowns during any particular activity that you can identify?
[20:32] <sdfksdfk> Compared to windows on this machine, Linux has been a complete trainwreck every time I've tried
[20:33] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: anything with disk IO or networking
[20:33] <sdfksdfk> The most fustrating part? My laptop LOVES linux.
[20:33] <draxdeveloper> ioria, has sum mismatch
[20:33] <draxdeveloper> hash
[20:34] <nacc> draxdeveloper: yes, that means it did *not* successfully update
[20:34] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  i see ... ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and if empty try to change mirror
[20:35] <draxdeveloper> ioria, just have the google chrome rep.
[20:35] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  are you on a livecd ?
[20:35] <draxdeveloper> (google-chrome.list)
[20:35] <draxdeveloper> nop
[20:36] <draxdeveloper> but it's a fresh install. The only thing i have done was install the chrome and synaptic
[20:36] <sdfksdfk> yay TF2 is having a stroke.
[20:36] <draxdeveloper> (in fact, it was a reinstall)
[20:36] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[20:37] <nacc> draxdeveloper: even on fresh install, you should do `apt update; apt full-upgrade`. And in your case, the `apt update` step is failing
[20:37] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  proxy ?
[20:37] <draxdeveloper> http://pastebin.com/1Qzu6RAW
[20:38] <draxdeveloper> ioria, how i check the proxy
[20:38] <sdfksdfk> soo
[20:39] <sdfksdfk> why
[20:39] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  i mean... are you using a proxy ? but i guess is 'no'
[20:39] <sdfksdfk> why am I getting HUGE performance hits when compared to windows
[20:39] <draxdeveloper> ioria, no
[20:40] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: stop saying the same things over and over.
[20:40] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: No one has been able to explain.
[20:40] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update
[20:40] <nicomachus> unless you can quantify these "performance hits" or provide more detail, then there's nothing anyone can do.
[20:40] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: locking up massively.
[20:40] <RaulDuke> Anyone know where to get a Chromium update? My Chromium 51 isn't updating on Wily
[20:40] <sdfksdfk> everything locking up.
[20:40] <sdfksdfk> is that not quantified enough?
[20:41] <nacc> RaulDuke: wily is eol, you should upgrade asap
[20:41] <nacc> !eol | RaulDuke
[20:41] <RaulDuke> makes sense, thank you
[20:42] <nicomachus> sdfksdfk: please use top or htop and check logs to see what is causing the lock ups, then. Is CPU maxing out? RAM? some bottleneck in the kernel or systemd?
[20:42] <draxdeveloper> ioria, still having the shash mismatch
[20:42] <draxdeveloper> hash
[20:42] <sdfksdfk> nicomachus: "4177 felix     20   0 2733044 1.100g 206920 S  73.4 14.0  63:26.78 firefox
[20:42] <sdfksdfk> 73% cpu... by firefox... of course..
[20:42] <sdfksdfk> ...
[20:43] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  change mirror
[20:43] <draxdeveloper> ioria, how i do this?
[20:43] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  systemsetting -> software&update
[20:44] <sdfksdfk> Anyone else having bad experiences with FireFox right now?
[20:44] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  > Download from
[20:44] <draxdeveloper> changed to the main server
[20:44] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  sudo apt-get update
[20:45] <draxdeveloper> ioria, yeah, no errors this time =D
[20:45] <draxdeveloper> i had a hunch that i could change to main server. I will hear my intution next time
[20:45] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:46] <draxdeveloper> ok, upgrading
[20:46] <sdfksdfk> ; - ;!
[20:46] <ioria> sdfksdfk, ff is great :þ
[20:46] <draxdeveloper> ah, i have a doubt about this site:  http://blog.guntram.de/?p=16
[20:47] <sdfksdfk> ioria: FF gave me cancer
[20:47] <sdfksdfk> and ran over my dog.
[20:47] <ioria> sdfksdfk, hehehehe
[20:47] <draxdeveloper> i tried to follow this tutorial and welll, it's break my system (keyboard and mice stop working)
[20:47] <draxdeveloper> but i can't find any other solution to this issue (my mouse is with the double click issue, so i need a debounce)
[20:48] <sdfksdfk> ioria: I can't read my TF2 gamechat.
[20:48] <sdfksdfk> Font rendering is garbage.
[20:48] <SweetSpot> is there a less verbose manner to create keyboard shortcuts from terminal than using this method http://askubuntu.com/questions/597395/how-to-set-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-from-terminal ?
[20:49] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  uname -r ?
[20:49] <draxdeveloper> what uname do?
[20:49] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  kernel ver
[20:50] <draxdeveloper> ah, it's still upgrading. But the thing is... Do you think i should trust in this blog? I would have to install a deb. package from there.
[20:50] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  nope
[20:50] <draxdeveloper> hum... So how can i debounce my mouse?
[20:50] <sdfksdfk> ...
[20:51] <sdfksdfk> Yay for Linux being the second rate desktop os ; - ;
[20:51] <SweetSpot> sdfksdfk, why????
[20:51] <sdfksdfk> SweetSpot: TF2 has horrid font rendering on Linux
[20:51] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  interval time issue with left click ?
[20:51] <sdfksdfk> All Source Engine games do :c
[20:52] <SweetSpot> i never liked games
[20:52] <draxdeveloper> ioria, yeah. My mouse is double cliking REALLY fast.
[20:52] <draxdeveloper> it's random.
[20:52] <SweetSpot> same ol mechanics since... always?
[20:52] <draxdeveloper> and it's a hardware problem.
[20:52] <SweetSpot> theres no randomness
[20:52] <rexwin_> -bash: /home/vv/bin/rm: No such file or directory
[20:52] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  systemsetting -> mouse
[20:53] <rexwin_> I am getting the above message when trying to remove a file
[20:53] <draxdeveloper> ioria, even if i put in the slowest speed it's still double clicks
[20:53] <draxdeveloper> like i said, it's really fast
[20:53] <sdfksdfk> Anyone have a good method of audio re-routing on linux?
[20:53] <draxdeveloper> that' why i need debounce
[20:53] <sdfksdfk> So I want to take 1 source, split it up and combine it with other sources along the way to the target
[20:54] <sdfksdfk> Essentially I need a patch panel
[20:54] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  do you have a rapid-fire" setting on the keyboard ?
[20:55] <draxdeveloper> ioria, the mouse have a rapid fire button that i can't desactivate
[20:55] <draxdeveloper> i hate the button, but i can't do anything about it.
[20:57] <ioria> rexwin_, other commands like rename  ??
[20:57] <sdfksdfk> This font rendering is killing me.
[20:57] <sdfksdfk> ; - ;\
[20:58] <bekks> rexwin_: can you show us the output of "echo $PATH" please?
[20:58] <rexwin_> yes, give me a sec
[21:00] <rexwin_> output /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[21:01] <bekks> rexwin_: and the complete output of "alias" please, in a pastebin.
[21:01] <ioria> rexwin_,  it's not even looking at your /home/user/bin
[21:01] <bekks> ioria: thats why I'm asking about aliases.
[21:03] <ioria> draxdeveloper,  there should be a way to disable that rapid fire...
[21:03] <dStruct> ok can someone PLEASE tell me why 16.x has removed the -t option from gnome-terminal, I can no longer name my windows??
[21:04] <rexwin_> http://pastebin.ca/3739855 + a lot of aliases of my colleague
[21:04] <draxdeveloper> ioria, i think it's a machanical button (maybe ot's just press 3 times the left button) so i will have to open my mouse i "disable" it
[21:04] <draxdeveloper> well, i will deal with this later. Now i can risk to break my mouse.
[21:04] <bekks> rexwin_: As you can see your second alias is breaking things. Remove it.
[21:05] <sdskfguy> Litterally
[21:05] <sdskfguy> Fucking 10/10 just happened.
[21:05] <sdskfguy> My desktop hung but it gets better!
[21:05] <sdskfguy> Reboot, x11 is now broken.
[21:05] <ioria> rexwin_,  look at your  ~/bin ... maybe there is a reason for the rm alias
[21:05] <sdskfguy> I spent 12 hours secure erasing my drive to install ubuntu to end up with a broken install.
[21:06] <sdskfguy> There will never be a year of the Linux desktop.
[21:06] <kostkon> dStruct, the gnome developers are to blame for that I guess
[21:06] <bekks> sdskfguy: why did you secure erase before installing? :D
[21:06] <sdskfguy> bekks: security.
[21:06] <sdskfguy> :D
[21:06] <bekks> sdskfguy: s/security/paranoia/
[21:06] <sdskfguy> bekks: nope.
[21:06] <dStruct> kostkon: I just upgraded from 14.x to 16.x and it really broke what I was doing, now I have to find another terminal, I can't imagine a single reason why they would need to remove that option
[21:06] <sdskfguy> I'm not going into details why I did secure wipe
[21:06] <sdskfguy> just that I did
[21:07] <rmac> sdskfguy: to be fair I have more installs of Win10 that are hosed than Linux
[21:07] <walnutbeard> cant install my games also programs so i am swappin windows but while usin winusb Installation failed !
[21:07] <walnutbeard> Exit code: 32512
[21:07] <walnutbeard> Log:
[21:07] <walnutbeard> i did ntfs and fat format and manage flags bootable
[21:07] <sdskfguy> rmac: This was coming from windows 7
[21:07] <bekks> walnutbeard: and how is that an Ubuntu issue?
[21:07] <sdskfguy> :|
[21:07] <sdskfguy> Windows 7 is GOAT
[21:08] <sdskfguy> rmac: the biggest piss off about all this?
[21:08] <sdskfguy> MY LAPTOP THAT IM ON NOW IS BEUTIFUL WITH LINUX
[21:08] <sdskfguy> Not a single issue.
[21:08] <bekks> sdskfguy: This isnt the correct place for chitchat ;)
[21:08] <sdskfguy> Same installer used on my laptop as my desktop, no lockups, wifi performance hickups, etc.
[21:08] <kostkon> dStruct, there are several you could try though that are much more advanced feature-wise than gnome-terminal
[21:08] <rmac> I assumed this wasn't a widespread issue or we'd all be on another OS :-P
[21:08] <sdskfguy> bekks: Want to help me get x11 back to life...
[21:09] <bekks> sdskfguy: First you have to tell us what you messed up in detail.
[21:09] <sdskfguy> bekks: I didn't do anything.
[21:09] <sdskfguy> From the get go FF was using 70%+ cpu
[21:09] <bekks> walnutbeard: no need for unasked an unwanted queries. Keep it in this channel.
[21:10] <sdskfguy> walnutbeard: un-solicited pms are like un-solicited dick pics
[21:10] <sdskfguy> Don't send them.
[21:10] <walnutbeard> u are a troll i was askin for winusb its on ubuntu
[21:10] <sdskfguy> ...
[21:10] <bekks> walnutbeard: you did not mention you are on Ubuntu. So dont call names on people, not even in a query.
[21:10] <genii> !info winusb
[21:11] <bekks> walnutbeard: and you cannot install Ubuntu on NTFS/FAT.
[21:11] <OerHeks> genii, only from a ppa, or use etcher
[21:11] <walnutbeard> u dont even read
[21:11] <OerHeks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source
[21:11] <sdskfguy> well I guess I'm migrating back to windows 7
[21:11] <dStruct> kostkon: true, I was looking at terminator among a few others, but gnome-term was working fine for opening the 15 serial port control screens I need, really annoying, if there was some kind of reason to remove that feature I would totally get it, you know
[21:11] <sdskfguy> rip
[21:11] <genii> OerHeks: Interesting.
[21:11] <bekks> walnutbeard: I've read enough of your for placing you on my ignore list.
[21:11] <walnutbeard> do i even care u child?
[21:11] <OerHeks> genii, iirc, for windows iso too
[21:12] <sdskfguy> walnutbeard: with an attitude like Trump's you'll never get support in here.
[21:12] <kostkon> dStruct, yeah, but unfortunately that's were gnome is heading to, a more simplified application stack
[21:12] <sdskfguy> walnutbeard: I've used winusb but seeing how you're acting, you can go suck it.
[21:12] <sdskfguy> Treat people with respect if you EVER want help in here. Until then
[21:12] <sdskfguy> !ops walnutbeard troll
[21:12] <dStruct> kostkon: well I hope you #gnome guys are listening, I for one AM NOT HAPPY :D
[21:12] <walnutbeard> it said its non of ubuntu problem and trolled me like that do u call that support
[21:12] <sdskfguy> walnutbeard:
[21:13] <sdskfguy> Again you gave no respect
[21:13] <sdskfguy> Gave no details.
[21:13] <nicomachus> sdskfguy: stop.
[21:13] <sdskfguy> Now you get no support from here on out. Try again tomorrow.
[21:13] <nicomachus> drop it.
[21:13] <sdskfguy> nicomachus: want to explain why x11 died after a reboot?
[21:13] <\9> sdskfguy: don't feed the trolls
[21:13] <sdskfguy> \9: ok
[21:14] <sdskfguy> Anyways I'm off to re-install windows.
[21:14] <\9> i just reinstalled ubuntu and am off to reboot :P
[21:14] <sdskfguy> Ubuntu was a massive trainwreck on my setup :| if anyone can suggest a mid range build that's linux friendly that would be greatly appreciated
[21:14] <sdskfguy> I'm just looking for working out of the box with Ubuntu with a moderate GPU
[21:15] <kostkon> sdskfguy, we've already heard your concerns at least twice already, let's end it here
[21:15] <nicomachus> sdskfguy: linux works on almost any hardware. I'm guessing in this case it was user error. a fresh install with a verified USB medium might be good.
[21:15] <\9> well, ubuntu kindly deals with all the hardware i put together
[21:15] <\9> can't help you with that
[21:15] <blackflow> *shrug* Works fine on all my machines.
[21:15] <sdskfguy> kostkon: ...
[21:15] <rmac> Haven't hit any hardware that wasn't compatible yet :-/
[21:15] <dStruct> walnutbeard: I would kindly recommend you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[21:15] <sdskfguy> nicomachus: no user error.
[21:15] <rexwin_> cat /etc/issue doesnot display ubuntu version and uname -a doesnot provide OS details. how to check OS version. I am told this is a ubuntu machine
[21:16] <sdskfguy> I installed using the same USB I used for this machine (thats running fine) installed steam played TF2, froze, rebooted, no x11.
[21:16] <rmac> rexwin_ /etc/issue doesn't have to display anything about the OS version.  It's there for boot messages, iirc
[21:17] <OerHeks> rexwin_,for 16.04 and up:  hostnamectl status
[21:17] <OerHeks> or any systemd install
[21:17] <sdskfguy> nicomachus: I'm looking for a gurented to work setup. My experiences so far have led me to believe I can only ever achieve that with Intel's iGPU
[21:18] <nicomachus> sdskfguy: my AMD GPU works fantastically.
[21:18] <sdskfguy> nicomachus: what gpu?
[21:18] <wedgie> sdskfguy: as does my nvidia 560Ti
[21:18] <sdskfguy> Also FOSS or prop?
[21:18] <nicomachus> Radeon HD 6450
[21:18] <sdskfguy> nicomachus: hah
[21:18] <dStruct> rexwin_: what does lsb_release -ir show you?
[21:18] <wedgie> using the prop drivers
[21:18] <sdskfguy> My R9 270x wants a talk with you nicomachus
[21:18] <wedgie> though it was perfectly functional with the free ones
[21:18] <sdskfguy> It performs much faster when it does work
[21:18] <gebjgd> sdskfguy, r9 270 works well with steam dota2
[21:19] <sdskfguy> gebjgd: radeon?
[21:19] <gebjgd> sdskfguy, whatever with prop driver or opensource driver
[21:19] <sdskfguy> gebjgd: radeon card
[21:19] <sdskfguy> or gigabyte, etc?
[21:19] <gebjgd> sdskfguy, yes
[21:19] <gebjgd> sdskfguy, [AMD/ATI] Curacao XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370 OEM]
[21:20] <sdskfguy> gebjgd: that's a gigabyte
[21:20] <sdskfguy> I have a radeon
[21:20] <sdskfguy> sorry saphire*
[21:20] <sdskfguy> bleh
[21:20] <sdskfguy> Seems like saphire cards and Linux do not get along.
[21:20] <sdskfguy> ever.
[21:20] <younder> nop
[21:20] <sdskfguy> anways ill brb in a hour, I have to go get my spine xrayed to ensure I didn't slip a disk
[21:21] <sdskfguy> yay!
[21:21] <younder> go for ATI those are the most cooperative
[21:21] <sdskfguy> 21 and possibly fucked my spine.
[21:21] <gebjgd> sdskfguy, that is sapphire r9 270x
[21:22] <Cbs01> Hello gusy how is going how are you?
[21:22] <OerHeks> sdskfguy, please tone down,. keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[21:22] <younder> @!#!
[21:22] <nicomachus> no obfuscation either. :P
[21:22] <younder> cartoon enough now
[21:23] <younder> what the f#@!
[21:23] <nicomachus> younder: stop. obfuscation is also against the guidelines.
[21:23] <rexwin_> hostnamectl status gives the OS version of 16.0
[21:23] <kostkon> younder, it's the attitude that matters
[21:24] <younder> Ok I stop
[21:25] <younder> me wanna please massa.
[21:25] <Cbs01> Helllo...
[21:26] <rexwin_> my testing.sh contains the following line
[21:26] <rexwin_> sudo tar czf backup_etc_`date +%F`.tar.gz --exclude=/root/backup*.tar.gz --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc --exclude=/sys --exclude=/tmp /etc
[21:26] <rexwin_> when I cron it doesn't run as expected
[21:26] <Ben64> because of the sudo
[21:26] <rexwin_> why Ben64?
[21:27] <Ben64> because it needs a password
[21:27] <bekks> rexwin_: because you are a) using sudo and b) not using a full path to the tar binary.
[21:27] <rmac> sudo crontab -e and add that to the root user's cron job list
[21:27] <bekks> rexwin_: create that cronjob as root, not as user.
[21:27] <rmac> But without sudo
[21:27] <rexwin_> I want tp run this as a particular user. can't we do that in ubuntu?
[21:27] <rexwin_> to*
[21:27] <Ben64> why does it matter
[21:27] <wedgie> rexwin_: you probably also want to specify a full path for where backup_etc_xxx.tar.gz is created
[21:28] <Ben64> you're trying to get root permissions anyway
[21:28] <rmac> rexwin_ you can, but you added "sudo" to the script which is then requesting to run as root.
[21:29] <rmac> rexwin_ each user has their own cron job list, so you can add the command as whichever user you want.  Removing sudo from your script will cause it to run as the user whose crontab you added the command to
[21:29] <rexwin_> because the tar commands only runs as sudo and it throws permission denied if run without sudo
[21:29] <bekks> rexwin_: so run them as root, from within the root crontab. without sudo.
[21:30] <Inporylem> Hows Kodi on ubuntu mate these days, never tried but heard it had quite many problems at the beginning.
[21:31] <rexwin_> can't we pass the password along with the tar command so that sudo runs without issues?
[21:31] <Ben64> why not run it under root's cron?
[21:31] <bekks> rexwin_: No.
[21:31] <nicomachus> rexwin_: that's just an unnecessarily complicated way to do it, even if it would work
[21:31] <dStruct> rexwin_: using sudo in a cron script is probably a bad idea
[21:31] <wedgie> rexwin_: if you want to get really crazy you can modify the sudoers config to not require a password... but really you should just run this as root.
[21:32] <rexwin_> because my colleague wants it like that
[21:32] <Ben64> tell your colleague they are wrong
[21:32] <ducasse> rexwin_: then he's wrong :)
[21:32] <nicomachus> well your colleague is an idiot
[21:32] <wedgie> there is *no* benefit to running as an arbitrary user if they just have to sudo it
[21:32] <rexwin_> copy that
[21:32] <dStruct> rexwin_: I agree with well.. everyone, your colleague is wrong
[21:33] <rmac> rexwin_ or you could do something equally crazy and change the permissions on the folders you're trying to access or add your user to a group that has correct permissions... But adding this to root's cron is much better
[21:34] <rmac> Inporylem: Kodi is pretty stable on Ubuntu.  Haven't tried it using Mate DE, though.
[21:34] <Inporylem> Ok
[21:35] <rexwin_> thanks to the lively bunch of people
[21:35] <dStruct> rexwin_: you know there's a backup user and group?
[21:35] <rexwin_> not that I have across. I am essentially a LAMP admin who is just starting up
[21:36] <rmac> rexwin_ nothing to do with the permissions thing, but you may want to check out the rsync command for backups.  Not sure if it helps your use case.
[21:37] <rexwin_> I have used rsync before in my website development company. Now I donot have a chance to use it
[21:38] <bekks> rexwin_: do you have ssh access?
[21:38] <dStruct> rexwin_: multiple servers, or just single server deployments?  Have you seen Docker?  it's god
[21:38] <rexwin_> for what?
[21:38] <bekks> rexwin_: for accessing your systems using ssh.
[21:38] <dStruct> rexwin_: scp can be used to backups
[21:39] <rexwin_> yes of course
[21:39] <bekks> rexwin_: then you can use rsync, since it uses ssh.
[21:39] <rexwin_> is systemd implemented in ubuntu 14.06?
[21:40] <wedgie> rexwin_: ... do you mean 14.04 or 16.04?
[21:40] <rexwin_> I know it is in 16.04
[21:41] <nacc> rexwin_: wedgie asked that because "14.06" isn't anything
[21:41] <dStruct> rexwin_: on my 16.x install it's service is stopped
[21:41] <rmac> 14.04 used upstart
[21:41] <Cbs01> I need help i it dif >linux mint < & ubuntu distro
[21:42] <bekks> Cbs01: can you rephrase that please?
[21:45] <Bvelcas> Alguien que hable español ?
[21:45] <Pici> !es | Bvelcas
[21:46] <rexwin_> how to check what services are starting up along with the system in 14.x?
[21:47] <OerHeks> Cbs01, comparing package versions? have fun >> https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint --- https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[21:48] <clorisu> Hi, my epson xp 220 printer allows me to print pages, but whenever i try to scan I get the error messages 'no scanners available'
[22:00] <pacovc> how long does it usually take for ubuntu to update the repositories to programs like firefox that release their upgrades? for instance firefox 50 upgrade.
[22:03] <dStruct> rexwin_: it looks like Ubuntu 15.x and on is now systemd, and prior was upstart, at least that's what the website says
[22:04] <ducasse> pacovc: firefox is usually updated within a matter of days.
[22:04] <pacovc> cool.. thanks ducasse
[22:04] <rexwin_> sudo service --status-all show the following thing https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4031mxqpj6vuaz/Screenshot%202016-11-18%2003.34.04.png?dl=0
[22:05] <rexwin_> what does question mark indicate?
[22:05] <drown> Hey does anyone know where I can get a good pdf for Apache2 administration that's for UBUNTU syntax
[22:05] <bekks> drown: docs.apache.org :)
[22:05] <drown> They have ubuntu specific pdfs?
[22:05] <drown> And does it matter if it's 1104 vs 14.04?
[22:05] <nicomachus> drown: 1104?
[22:06] <bekks> drown: you dont need ubuntu specific pdfs for apache ;)
[22:06] <nicomachus> You shouldn't be using 11.04
[22:06] <drown> I know i know
[22:06] <drown> I'm using 14.04
[22:06] <drown> But some of the terminology is diff on a ubuntu/deb vs rpm system
[22:06] <ducasse> drown: the ubuntu server guide has the ubuntu specific details
[22:06] <bekks> drown: only the package names are.
[22:07] <drown> yeah but control commands are different
[22:07] <drown> like service apache2 vs systmctl httpd
[22:08] <dStruct> rexwin_: 14.x used upstart which is not the same as systemd (aka service command), I don't know of a way off hand to find out what all is supposed to start on bootup, but upstart uses /etc/init.d/ so you could grep in there for runlevel, and maybe check /etc/rc3.d/ too
[22:09] <lalbantuuu> hi, when i try to systemctl start tor.service in ubuntu 16.10 it doesn't work, with systemctl status i see active (exited), what's the problem?
[22:12] <lalbantuuu> anyone?
[22:13] <dStruct> lalbantuuu: what does sudo service tor.service start do?
[22:13] <OerHeks> that runs as user
[22:13] <OerHeks> try with sudo
[22:13] <lalbantuuu> ofc i ran with sudo
[22:13] <lalbantuuu> it didn't work
[22:14] <lalbantuuu> i get active (exited)
[22:14] <lalbantuuu> dStruct: let me see
[22:14] <iptraf> Hi, I  try to use iptraf in lubuntu but it doesn't see my interface, only Lo. It's called enp0s3.
[22:14] <OerHeks> are you sure it is not running? ss -aln | grep 9050
[22:15] <lalbantuuu> tcp    LISTEN     0      128    127.0.0.1:9050                  *:*
[22:15] <lalbantuuu> does that mean it is already running?
[22:15] <OerHeks> yes
[22:16] <lalbantuuu> so it seems it started on its own
[22:16] <lalbantuuu> on my other computer where i have another distribution
[22:16] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor#Starting_Services_and_Checking_Status
[22:16] <lalbantuuu> i have to start it on my own
[22:17] <lalbantuuu> okay so why doesn't it stop
[22:17] <lalbantuuu> when i do sudo systemctl stop tor.service?
[22:17] <OerHeks>  what does journalctl say?
[22:19] <lalbantuuu> it says stopped
[22:19] <lalbantuuu> i checked that earlier
[22:19] <lalbantuuu> let me just restart
[22:19] <lalbantuuu> this whole session has been very buggy
[22:24] <WTWW_> I am very new to Ubuntu and I went to the Software tab in the menu.  I found a program or app that I wanted to try. It then told me that I had to joint Ubuntu One. So I did all it said for me to join.  All the programs that require Ubuntu One will not accept my password or log in.  I even delted my account and started over again with a new name.  Strangely enough I am a talk show host and a number of listeners have had the same problem.
[22:24] <lalbantuuu> ok so before restarting i ran sudo systemctl enable tor.service and rebooted
[22:24] <lalbantuuu> with your command i can see that it listens on port 9050
[22:24] <WTWW_> I am thinking I am just to stupid to figure out something very simple.
[22:24] <lalbantuuu> but systemctl status tor.service still shows active (exited)
[22:27] <OerHeks> WTWW_, ubuntu-one is a different account, youneed to register online first, it is not your ubuntu login
[22:28] <lalbantuuu> OerHeks, do you have any idea why this is happening?
[22:28] <WTWW_> OerHeks  Thank you so very much... where do I register online...? if you would be so kind?
[22:28] <lalbantuuu> WTWW_: just google ubuntu online
[22:29] <WTWW_> Thank you!  I ask myself every day.. what if there was no Google?  LOL
[22:29] <lalbantuuu> just google ubuntu one online*
[22:29] <OerHeks> https://login.ubuntu.com/
[22:32] <WTWW_> That is the page where I logged in and got a user account and I can log into that page and see my account information just fine with the user and pass. However when I select an app or program to download it will not accept my log in.
[22:33] <WTWW_> I tried deleting the account and then setting up a different account and it does the same thing will not accept my log in
[22:33] <WTWW_> is there an addtional Ubuntu log in or another place to register a user name?
[22:34] <nacc> WTWW_: what is not accepting your log in?
[22:34] <WTWW_> Ubuntu One
[22:34] <nacc> WTWW_: I don't understand? you just said that you are able to see your account information? meaning you are logged in
[22:35] <nacc> WTWW_: what specific page are you trying to login to that doesn't accept your login?
[22:36] <WTWW_> Yes Ubuntu one will let me log in just fine from the web page.  When I go to download a piece of software from the Unbuntu software repository that is accesed throught he Ubuntu Menu the Ubuntu One screeen pops up and it rejects my log in
[22:37] <nacc> WTWW_: "Ubuntu Software Repository", do you mean "Ubuntu Software Center"?
[22:37] <WTWW_> yes
[22:37] <nacc> WTWW_: that has *nothing* to do with Ubuntu One
[22:37] <OerHeks> paid app, i guess
[22:37] <nacc> WTWW_: what software are you trying to install?
[22:38] <nacc> WTWW_: I should say, for most people, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu One :)
[22:40] <WTWW_> Spreedme is the name of the program
[22:41] <kostkon> WTWW_, what's the error message in the popup?
[22:41] <WTWW_> if I try to download the Ubuntu One box pops up wanting me to log in
[22:41] <nacc> WTWW_: ah, so as OerHeks said, a non-free application.
[22:42] <nacc> WTWW_: as kostkon said, what, if any, error message is printed
[22:42] <WTWW_> incorrect user name or password
[22:42] <kostkon> nacc, more like 3rd-party vendor app not necessarily a paid one
[22:42] <sdskfguy> Question
[22:42] <sdskfguy> Anyone know of a good Linux supported GPU?
[22:42] <nacc> kostkon: err, yes, sorry
[22:42] <sdskfguy> Soemthing other than intel's iGPU
[22:42] <ducasse> nacc: a snap, also.
[22:43] <nacc> kostkon: although that one is specifically non-free :)
[22:43] <nacc> ducasse: oh, all snaps require login, that's true
[22:43]  * nacc amends mental model
[22:43]  * sdskfguy sits here sad that his i7 2670m is old
[22:43] <WTWW_> same log in screen rejects my user and pass yet from the web the same screen works fine as far as log in
[22:43]  * sdskfguy sits here sad that he can't afford to build a new intel rig yet but needs to plan
[22:44] <WTWW_> how would you pay for it?  you can't log in ?  I am lost.. LOL
[22:44] <sdskfguy> at least my laptop works on linux ; - ;
[22:44] <sdskfguy> ok guys, stupid question of the year about to come through.
[22:45] <sdskfguy> like, stupid.
[22:45] <ducasse> WTWW_: are you using the "ubuntu software center" or "gnome software"?
[22:45] <sdskfguy> Does Linux support older docks, not USB C doks
[22:45] <sdskfguy> docks*
[22:45] <nacc> sdskfguy: yes, and I'd say genearlly usb-c docks are less supported; although the precise answer depends on the dock, probably
[22:45] <kostkon> sdskfguy, like usb and usb2 docks?
[22:45] <sdskfguy> nacc: ok, I'm consdiering just getting a dock for my laptop
[22:45] <multiverse> Hello, has anyone here spent time porting /bin/bash scripts from other Linux distros to Ubuntu 16?  I ask because I have ported some, and the bash (version I’m on is default for the latest), and my nested source (AKA .)  includes not longer work.  My variables are instantiated like so:  TEST=“test” and use them:  echo ${TEST}
[22:45] <sdskfguy> kostkon: no
[22:46] <sdskfguy> HP docks
[22:46] <kostkon> sdskfguy, oh right, laptop docks
[22:46] <WTWW_> I am using it because I found it in the menu.  New to Ubuntu and exploring I thought that was supposed to be a good thing
[22:46] <sdskfguy> I'm thinking about using my laptop as a desktop
[22:46] <sdskfguy> It has more horsepower...
[22:47] <nacc> multiverse: are you sure you aren't mistakenly using sh instead of bash in Ubuntu?
[22:47] <nacc> multiverse: i've not heard of many issues with bash portability between distributions
[22:47] <nacc> multiverse: it would be good to pastebin an example and its corresponding incorrect output
[22:48] <multiverse> I promise I echo $0
[22:48] <multiverse> err
[22:48] <multiverse> ps $$
[22:48] <multiverse> it is /bin/bash
[22:48] <multiverse> for sure
[22:49] <WTWW_> I would think for an experianced Untuntu user this would be a common or simple problem and as I am totally green to this I would hope I am doing something wrong that could be fixed..
[22:49] <multiverse> In my os detection I test (and proven it works) for Ubuntu, and populate using constants like the one I first mentions.
[22:49] <nacc> WTWW_: try using 'gnome software', i htink it's preferred now?
[22:50] <multiverse> sure
[22:50] <OerHeks> paid apps are gone, iirc
[22:50] <nacc> multiverse: please just use a pastebin as requested, text doesn't really help show the problem
[22:50] <multiverse> sorry about the racket
[22:50] <WTWW_> I thought Ubuntu installed with Gnome?  Wonder what the heck I am runnning here?
[22:51] <nacc> WTWW_: there are two software GUIs by default, "gnome software" and "ubuntu software center". THe latter is deprecated, even though it's present.
[22:51] <nacc> WTWW_: try using hte former; on my system it shows up as "software" (rather than "ubuntu software center")
[22:52] <WTWW_> It shows up as just software on my box as well... oh well... someday LOL
[22:53] <Bashing-om> WTWW_: There are about 20 Desk tops in 'buntu .. to know what you are running try terninal copmmand ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .
[22:53] <WTWW_> $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ubuntustudio   XFCE
[22:54] <Bashing-om> WTWW_: There ya go .. now ya know . ( I do favor xfce :) )
[22:55] <WTWW_> I engineer for a group of Nashville radio stations and we "family" runs a very large shortwave facility here in the Nashville area..we are trying to eliminate all Windows boxes....
[22:57] <Bashing-om> WTWW_: ^ Then ya also want to register on the ubuntuforums.org forum :)
[22:57] <WTWW_> I thought I did that as well... LOL.... I am the reason for the word stupid... LOL
[22:58] <WTWW_> Need you to get some folks together to come on my radio show each night on WTWW and talk about Utuntu and Linux..huge huge audiance
[22:59] <WTWW_> Lots of Windows users like me ready to jump off the boat....
[22:59] <WTWW_> they just need a little push
[22:59] <Bashing-om> WTWW_: That my friend is off-topic for this the support channel . takes away from the focus .
[23:00] <WTWW_> I am gone.  this is why Linux is viewed by thousands as a slide rule think glasses bunch ... tune in tonight on wtww... I will talk about it. wont be back here
[23:03] <peyam> hi
[23:04] <peyam> Autocompletation in Latexila has stopped working. anyone knows what to do to get it back?
[23:05] <lory> ciauu a  tutti
[23:06] <peyam> huh?
[23:15] <multiverse> Hi again, I’m back with a pastebin!  http://pastebin.com/7bE1r67B
[23:16] <Guest98315> guys, I could take audio player recommendations. I'm looking for something that supports opus and embedded lyrics(and optionally videogame music formats like spc)
[23:19] <porkstore> hej
[23:19] <porkstore> anyone let me know if this is an inappropriate question
[23:19] <porkstore> wondering should i be able to set up an ubuntu machine to be relatively ddos proof ?
[23:20] <compdoc> ban him!!
[23:20] <porkstore> i secure my web servers from some ddos attacks
[23:20] <compdoc> jk :)
[23:20] <freakyy> hey all, im going to set up ubuntu server on a hybrid system. 2 ssds 356GB  SW-RAID1, 2HDDs 1TB - SW-RAID1 ... how much should i allocate for the SSD /boot?
[23:20] <porkstore> but i mean just a machine dedicated to ircing
[23:20] <porkstore> i got ddossed earlier and i'm not even running apache
[23:25] <usr13> freakyy: 100M
[23:25] <lordcirth> 500M might be safer
[23:26] <lordcirth> Seeing as I just autoremoved all but the running kernel and /boot is 117M
[23:27] <SPeedY> lordcirth 500M will save you some trouble in the future
[23:27] <usr13> freakyy: You may see kernels as large as 8 or 10M.  I doubt you'll keep more that 3 or 4
[23:28] <freakyy> ok ill use 500MB
[23:29] <usr13> I don't see any need for more than 2.
[23:29] <SPeedY> @porkstore nothing is 100%, specially protecting from ddos, best you could do is get a good firewall "an old asa goes for less than 150 on ebay"
[23:30] <porkstore> it's just a cheap vps
[23:30] <SPeedY> @usr13 you are correct, but if you can't afford to waste 500M then you shouldn't be building servers
[23:30] <SPeedY> if unix then IP tables is your best friend
[23:31] <SPeedY> load fail2ban and set low restriction "but you may ban legitimiate users, lol"
[23:31] <lordcirth> porkstore, just note that there can be no defense on your end against someone simply filling your inbound pipe
[23:32] <lordcirth> Only the ISP can blackhole that
[23:32] <usr13> I don't use a separate /boot/ partition.  Just /home and / and swap
[23:32] <lordcirth> me too ^
[23:33] <porkstore> so basically any ircer in romania or something can ddos me and i can't really prevent it
[23:33] <porkstore> isp blackholes my whole vps instead
[23:33] <usr13> And I use 80 - 100G for /
[23:34] <lordcirth> porkstore, yup.  welcome to the internet of things.
[23:34] <usr13> freakyy: What kind of server are you building?
[23:34] <SPeedY> @porkstore a 6 years old kid can dos from his mom cellphone and there's shit you can do about it
[23:35] <freakyy> usr13: its a private server it runs several things
[23:35] <usr13> Ok, it's private ;)
[23:35] <porkstore> well that's okay as long as i realize that
[23:35] <porkstore> then i won't feel like a dumkopf
[23:50] <amine> hello
[23:50] <OerHeks>  
[23:51] <TomyWork> nacc https://launchpad.net/~nacc/+archive/ubuntu/lp1382490/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all looks like the build failed to upload :/
[23:51] <freakyy> usr13: why r u asking?
[23:51] <freakyy> i mean, its a private server with plesk, webspace, minecraft servers, ts3 server and so on ;D