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OerHeksDo not !... https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2016/11/17/do-not-change-linux-files-using-windows-apps-and-tools/02:46
OerHeksplatinum members care about linux02:47
R13oseThis is happening to me again: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z6004:00
R13osebbl04:02
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R13oseHi10:33
BluesKajHiyas all10:41
R13oseHi13:49
lotuspsychjegood afternoon to all13:52
lotuspsychjewelcome Roy13:57
Roythanks lotuspsychje13:58
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial14:09
ubot5`linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.47.50 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB14:09
R13oseThis is happening to me again: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z60 I was using Firefox so only happened in there.14:09
lotuspsychjeR13ose: ive seen softpedia article, kde plasma users were urged to reinstall14:11
lotuspsychjeperhaps related?14:11
R13oselotuspsychje: reinstall because?14:11
RoyHuh? !info gives information about a package in a cirtain repo?14:11
daftykinsbecause it's nearly Christmas! \o/14:11
daftykins(not really)14:11
lotuspsychjeR13ose: lemme refind article holdon14:12
lotuspsychjeR13ose: not sure if this is your case ok14:13
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-neon-users-urged-to-upgrade-their-systems-or-reinstall-the-linux-distro-510183.shtml14:13
daftykinshrmm14:15
R13oseHow do I upgrade to KDE 5.8?14:15
daftykinswhat a mess14:16
daftykinsask in #kubuntu14:16
lotuspsychjeyeah good idea14:16
daftykinsquick google says "you have to install KDE Neon to use the latest version"14:17
R13oseThanks14:18
lotuspsychjeRoy: yes, ubottu shows info about packages from several ubuntu versions and their used repo14:21
R13osedaftykins: can I ask in #ubuntu as well?14:28
daftykins-_-14:28
R13ose-_-14:29
daftykinsthe topics of a channel tell you what they are for.14:30
R13oseok14:30
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj14:39
BluesKajhi lotuspsychje14:39
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: <R13ose> This is happening to me again: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z60 I was using Firefox so only happened in there.14:45
lotuspsychjeperhaps you might know?14:45
BluesKajlotuspsychje, sorry I haven't seen that before on FF14:54
lotuspsychjeno sweat14:54
daftykinswe were last told it was on multiple browsers15:00
R13osethis is multiple browsers but I tend to use firefox more these days.15:03
BluesKajlotuspsychje, I tried chromium as well, couldn't replicate15:03
daftykinsintel woes + bad choice of laptop15:08
R13oseYet, I didn't seem to have problems with Gnome at all.  Yet, this has happened in KDE.15:20
daftykinstime to switcheroo15:22
Roy<Roy> I tried to configure bumblebee last week. But I didn't succeed. Now I'm using nvidia-prime.15:24
Roy<Roy> Do any of you use nvidia optimus based laptops?15:24
RoyI don't think those came trough since I switched to vpn before I sent those, did they?15:24
daftykinsno, but this isn't a support channel15:25
daftykinsbumblebee hasn't been relevant for many years, you should be looking at nvidia-prime15:25
Roydaftykins, thank you.15:27
RoyIn that case, I don't even need to find support anymore. It seems to work okay using nvidia-prime. :)15:28
lotuspsychjelol15:29
daftykinsheh15:29
lotuspsychje!yay | Roy15:29
ubot5`Roy: Glad you made it! :-)15:29
* daftykins blows the end of his gun and holsters it15:29
daftykinsmost everyone with optimus gets video tearing still, it's simply not good on Linux15:29
R13osewhat is normally talked about here?15:35
RoyI haven't found a serious problem concerning screentearing while playing two games today on the nvidia profile.15:35
lotuspsychjeR13ose: ubuntu discussions15:36
R13oselike?15:36
lotuspsychjeR13ose: discussions about ubuntu :p15:37
RoyI'm running Ubuntu Gnome on my new xiaomi notebook air 13"15:37
R13osedo many people use Ubuntu on macs?15:37
lotuspsychjeRoy: use #ubuntu for issues15:37
RoyQuite suprised about how nice everything runs.15:37
daftykinsi thought they only did cheap exploited phones15:37
daftykins(xiaomi)15:38
lotuspsychjeR13ose: many ubuntu lovers do, if their mac version can run ubuntu15:38
R13osecan't all macs run ubuntu?15:38
daftykinsnot well, no15:38
lotuspsychje!mac15:38
ubot5`For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages15:38
RoyThey make all kinds of things, even smart bicycles.15:38
daftykinsand the wiki above is an outdated mess15:38
daftykinshah15:39
lotuspsychjedaftykins: think they edited lately, but surely not real up to date :p15:39
OerHeksdaftykins, amdgpu 1.230 will get better http://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-amdgpu-and-radeon-linux-drivers-bring-tearfree-dri3-by-default-510302.shtml15:40
OerHeksor 1.2015:40
daftykinsah i was mostly talking tearing on nvidia optimus hybrid setups15:41
DJonesdaftykins: Must admit, that optimus seems to work fine for me with intel/Nvidia 750M, maybe I'm the lucky one15:57
DJonesI've not had any issues with tearing, saying that I leave nvidia on all the time, I don't bother swiotching between the two15:58
lotuspsychjeweird invention, to disable a better graphics card16:00
lotuspsychjewho not just make it low mode or something if your not a gamer16:00
lotuspsychje*why16:00
lotuspsychjebbl16:07
daftykinsDJones: you can't switch in some setups, depends if it's muxing or muxless - also we're talking fullscreen games for tearing, so do you do that? :)16:10
RoyDJones, Do you also use nvidia-prime?16:21
RoyOh, I see. I want my batterylife to be okay, I don't always have my charger by hand.16:22
DJonesRoy: Yes I do16:22
RoyWith Bumblebee, I could get 7+ hours browsing the web. With the gpu completely disabled.16:23
DJonesMy laptop is permantaly on power anyway16:23
daftykinsgreat way to murder the battery :)16:25
RoyI think it's better to stay connected to power to preserve battery cycles.16:26
daftykinsthat's not how it works16:27
daftykinstypically, staying tethered and continually staying at top charge eventually murders the entire cell pack16:28
daftykinsvery very common thing.16:28
RoyAh, that's true.16:31
daftykinsi tend to tell clients to remove the battery if a machine won't move... but then it's rare that i'll be up against those that don't move that are running a laptop thankfully :)16:33
RoyMy MacBook (2011) still has it's original battery. Still lasts for 5 hours on a charge.16:34
RoyBut, I use it during transit. It's only on charger when I'm working. (09:00 - 17:00)16:35
daftykins*nod*16:42
daftykinsa travelling businessman client of mine, his laptops last great until we move him to a new one, then practically overnight the old model will cease to hold a charge16:42
daftykinswell, feels overnight but it's probably more like 3 months going by :D16:42
BluesKajmy 3yr old laptop battery lasts about 3 hrs, tops16:43
WirehunterI switched username from Roy to something I can register :)16:55
daftykinsthat asus sandybridge i5 i sold was from 2011, that kept going for 8hrs even as i sold it16:55
daftykinsi think the mate that bought it got a good deal there16:55
daftykins£250 for i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD16:55
Wirehunter /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Wirehunter uiqhgruftehk16:59
WirehunterOops17:00
daftykinspublically logged channel ;) but i don't remember if anything in that is important17:01
daftykinsthink it's fine, but always best to use the status window17:01
OerHeksit is no password,just the confirmationcode17:02
daftykinsyarr17:05
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WirehunterI did the registration itself to the server. (I'm using hexchat) But now I didn't think about that anymore. :/17:06
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OerHeksWirehunter, i can see it worked, congrats17:07
lotuspsychjedinnertime, laterz guys17:08
WirehunterOerHeks, Thanks17:10
daftykinsnow you can configure SASL authentication :)17:11
WirehunterAh, thanks for pointing that out.17:17
OerHeksoh wait, i forgot that after reinstall ..17:19
OerHeksdone17:20
daftykinssince it sends your password over plaintext though, you'll want to connect to freenode by SSL17:21
OerHeksI know, i am a high target, etc17:22
OerHekswicked17:22
daftykins:D17:22
daftykinswell the above was for Wirehunter too ^17:22
OerHeks3 attempts/minute on oerheks@ubuntu.com ... no, just joking17:23
daftykinsnow you typed it out in a logged channel the bots are gonna spam it!17:24
nicomachusOerHeks: target value doesn't matter anymore. You could just be another bot in the net17:26
nicomachusugh. my wifi is cutting out like every 30 secs.17:46
daftykinso018:14
daftykinsfailing router?18:14
nicomachusdaftykins: don't think so. It's here at the office, so I'm just gonna call IT.18:15
daftykinsah18:16
daftykinsmakes me cringe hearing how folk in the office are on wireless :(18:16
nicomachuswell my desktop is wired and connected to the intranet18:17
daftykinsfriend of mine that's a software dev for a huge dev firm in Houston is trying to do MS Azure performance testing... they got their wired connections taken away ;_;18:17
nicomachusbut we also have a wireless AP that is a separate network for personal devices. In this case, my laptop.18:17
daftykinsoh you get given both? that's handy, also keep hearing about businesses that provide laptops only18:17
daftykinsoh it's personal only?18:17
nicomachusand the wireless network doesn't have access to intranet sites or any connection to the main network. so less locked-down in terms of security.18:18
nicomachuswhich means I can actually SSH into my home server without sending up a flag for IT to call me and inquire about.18:18
daftykinsdid you get far with the VT-d thing?18:18
nicomachusyea once I enabled that it worked fine.18:19
nicomachustook a bit to find the option in the BIOS though18:19
daftykinsoh so it wasn't even passworded? i thought that was why you hadn't done it18:19
nicomachusyou know, for how strict they are at some aspects of security, they are incredibly lax when it comes to individual machines.18:21
nicomachusI shouldn't be able to boot from USB or change BIOS settings or probably even install a VM without admin approval, but here we are.18:21
daftykinsi truly thought you were only wrestling last week because the BIOS was locked down18:21
nicomachusno I just didn't wanna reboot at the time. haha18:22
daftykinsholy crap, man - you shock me18:22
nicomachushaha why?18:22
daftykinsso are you still going down that insane VM route instead of just discovering the Windows tools?18:22
nicomachusno, I'm just bringing in my laptop and using that for a lot of stuff.18:22
daftykins>_<18:23
daftykinsnicomachus: is it dev you do?18:26
nicomachusdaftykins: no. nothing IT related.18:27
daftykinsah18:27
daftykinsdefinitely pretty weird them not locking things down, i do it even for my travelling biz client18:28
nicomachusoh well. Not much risk from our type of office.18:28
daftykinsnah given they've gotta get past the physical security to get in anyway, all bets would be off18:28
nicomachusphysical security is VERY strong. haha18:33
daftykinscor proper rain again here, somehow it's turning to ice on the roof18:34
nicomachusthis SSL error in Chromium is starting to get very annoying.18:53
nicomachushttp://i.imgur.com/oqXtumW.jpg18:54
daftykinssomeone the other day said the next version sorts it19:05
daftykinsbut that it's probably not in the repos yet19:05
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EriC^^howdy19:11
daftykinsheya \o how are ye?19:16
EriC^^daftykins: hey, good you?19:56
daftykinsmmm not bad here cheers19:57
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EriC^^:D19:58
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daftykins:D20:12
daftykinsi sometimes treat myself with a bottle of that20:12
EriC^^i wonder why they dont sell it everywhere here, just pepsi/coke miranda and 7up usually20:13
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