[02:46] <OerHeks> Do not !... https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2016/11/17/do-not-change-linux-files-using-windows-apps-and-tools/
[02:47] <OerHeks> platinum members care about linux
[04:00] <R13ose> This is happening to me again: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z60
[04:02] <R13ose> bbl
[10:33] <R13ose> Hi
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:49] <R13ose> Hi
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> welcome Roy
[13:58] <Roy> thanks lotuspsychje
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[14:09] <ubot5`> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.47.50 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB
[14:09] <R13ose> This is happening to me again: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z60 I was using Firefox so only happened in there.
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: ive seen softpedia article, kde plasma users were urged to reinstall
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> perhaps related?
[14:11] <R13ose> lotuspsychje: reinstall because?
[14:11] <Roy> Huh? !info gives information about a package in a cirtain repo?
[14:11] <daftykins> because it's nearly Christmas! \o/
[14:11] <daftykins> (not really)
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: lemme refind article holdon
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: not sure if this is your case ok
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-neon-users-urged-to-upgrade-their-systems-or-reinstall-the-linux-distro-510183.shtml
[14:15] <daftykins> hrmm
[14:15] <R13ose> How do I upgrade to KDE 5.8?
[14:16] <daftykins> what a mess
[14:16] <daftykins> ask in #kubuntu
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> yeah good idea
[14:17] <daftykins> quick google says "you have to install KDE Neon to use the latest version"
[14:18] <R13ose> Thanks
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Roy: yes, ubottu shows info about packages from several ubuntu versions and their used repo
[14:28] <R13ose> daftykins: can I ask in #ubuntu as well?
[14:28] <daftykins> -_-
[14:29] <R13ose> -_-
[14:30] <daftykins> the topics of a channel tell you what they are for.
[14:30] <R13ose> ok
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[14:39] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: <R13ose> This is happening to me again: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z60 I was using Firefox so only happened in there.
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> perhaps you might know?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, sorry I haven't seen that before on FF
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[15:00] <daftykins> we were last told it was on multiple browsers
[15:03] <R13ose> this is multiple browsers but I tend to use firefox more these days.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I tried chromium as well, couldn't replicate
[15:08] <daftykins> intel woes + bad choice of laptop
[15:20] <R13ose> Yet, I didn't seem to have problems with Gnome at all.  Yet, this has happened in KDE.
[15:22] <daftykins> time to switcheroo
 I tried to configure bumblebee last week. But I didn't succeed. Now I'm using nvidia-prime.
 Do any of you use nvidia optimus based laptops?
[15:24] <Roy> I don't think those came trough since I switched to vpn before I sent those, did they?
[15:25] <daftykins> no, but this isn't a support channel
[15:25] <daftykins> bumblebee hasn't been relevant for many years, you should be looking at nvidia-prime
[15:27] <Roy> daftykins, thank you.
[15:28] <Roy> In that case, I don't even need to find support anymore. It seems to work okay using nvidia-prime. :)
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:29] <daftykins> heh
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Roy
[15:29] <ubot5`> Roy: Glad you made it! :-)
[15:29]  * daftykins blows the end of his gun and holsters it
[15:29] <daftykins> most everyone with optimus gets video tearing still, it's simply not good on Linux
[15:35] <R13ose> what is normally talked about here?
[15:35] <Roy> I haven't found a serious problem concerning screentearing while playing two games today on the nvidia profile.
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: ubuntu discussions
[15:36] <R13ose> like?
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: discussions about ubuntu :p
[15:37] <Roy> I'm running Ubuntu Gnome on my new xiaomi notebook air 13"
[15:37] <R13ose> do many people use Ubuntu on macs?
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> Roy: use #ubuntu for issues
[15:37] <Roy> Quite suprised about how nice everything runs.
[15:37] <daftykins> i thought they only did cheap exploited phones
[15:38] <daftykins> (xiaomi)
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> R13ose: many ubuntu lovers do, if their mac version can run ubuntu
[15:38] <R13ose> can't all macs run ubuntu?
[15:38] <daftykins> not well, no
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> !mac
[15:38] <ubot5`> For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[15:38] <Roy> They make all kinds of things, even smart bicycles.
[15:38] <daftykins> and the wiki above is an outdated mess
[15:39] <daftykins> hah
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: think they edited lately, but surely not real up to date :p
[15:40] <OerHeks> daftykins, amdgpu 1.230 will get better http://news.softpedia.com/news/open-source-amdgpu-and-radeon-linux-drivers-bring-tearfree-dri3-by-default-510302.shtml
[15:40] <OerHeks> or 1.20
[15:41] <daftykins> ah i was mostly talking tearing on nvidia optimus hybrid setups
[15:57] <DJones> daftykins: Must admit, that optimus seems to work fine for me with intel/Nvidia 750M, maybe I'm the lucky one
[15:58] <DJones> I've not had any issues with tearing, saying that I leave nvidia on all the time, I don't bother swiotching between the two
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> weird invention, to disable a better graphics card
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> who not just make it low mode or something if your not a gamer
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> *why
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[16:10] <daftykins> DJones: you can't switch in some setups, depends if it's muxing or muxless - also we're talking fullscreen games for tearing, so do you do that? :)
[16:21] <Roy> DJones, Do you also use nvidia-prime?
[16:22] <Roy> Oh, I see. I want my batterylife to be okay, I don't always have my charger by hand.
[16:22] <DJones> Roy: Yes I do
[16:23] <Roy> With Bumblebee, I could get 7+ hours browsing the web. With the gpu completely disabled.
[16:23] <DJones> My laptop is permantaly on power anyway
[16:25] <daftykins> great way to murder the battery :)
[16:26] <Roy> I think it's better to stay connected to power to preserve battery cycles.
[16:27] <daftykins> that's not how it works
[16:28] <daftykins> typically, staying tethered and continually staying at top charge eventually murders the entire cell pack
[16:28] <daftykins> very very common thing.
[16:31] <Roy> Ah, that's true.
[16:33] <daftykins> i tend to tell clients to remove the battery if a machine won't move... but then it's rare that i'll be up against those that don't move that are running a laptop thankfully :)
[16:34] <Roy> My MacBook (2011) still has it's original battery. Still lasts for 5 hours on a charge.
[16:35] <Roy> But, I use it during transit. It's only on charger when I'm working. (09:00 - 17:00)
[16:42] <daftykins> *nod*
[16:42] <daftykins> a travelling businessman client of mine, his laptops last great until we move him to a new one, then practically overnight the old model will cease to hold a charge
[16:42] <daftykins> well, feels overnight but it's probably more like 3 months going by :D
[16:43] <BluesKaj> my 3yr old laptop battery lasts about 3 hrs, tops
[16:55] <Wirehunter> I switched username from Roy to something I can register :)
[16:55] <daftykins> that asus sandybridge i5 i sold was from 2011, that kept going for 8hrs even as i sold it
[16:55] <daftykins> i think the mate that bought it got a good deal there
[16:55] <daftykins> £250 for i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD
[16:59] <Wirehunter>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Wirehunter uiqhgruftehk
[17:00] <Wirehunter> Oops
[17:01] <daftykins> publically logged channel ;) but i don't remember if anything in that is important
[17:01] <daftykins> think it's fine, but always best to use the status window
[17:02] <OerHeks> it is no password,just the confirmationcode
[17:05] <daftykins> yarr
[17:06] <Wirehunter> I did the registration itself to the server. (I'm using hexchat) But now I didn't think about that anymore. :/
[17:07] <OerHeks> Wirehunter, i can see it worked, congrats
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> dinnertime, laterz guys
[17:10] <Wirehunter> OerHeks, Thanks
[17:11] <daftykins> now you can configure SASL authentication :)
[17:17] <Wirehunter> Ah, thanks for pointing that out.
[17:19] <OerHeks> oh wait, i forgot that after reinstall ..
[17:20] <OerHeks> done
[17:21] <daftykins> since it sends your password over plaintext though, you'll want to connect to freenode by SSL
[17:22] <OerHeks> I know, i am a high target, etc
[17:22] <OerHeks> wicked
[17:22] <daftykins> :D
[17:22] <daftykins> well the above was for Wirehunter too ^
[17:23] <OerHeks> 3 attempts/minute on oerheks@ubuntu.com ... no, just joking
[17:24] <daftykins> now you typed it out in a logged channel the bots are gonna spam it!
[17:26] <nicomachus> OerHeks: target value doesn't matter anymore. You could just be another bot in the net
[17:46] <nicomachus> ugh. my wifi is cutting out like every 30 secs.
[18:14] <daftykins> o0
[18:14] <daftykins> failing router?
[18:15] <nicomachus> daftykins: don't think so. It's here at the office, so I'm just gonna call IT.
[18:16] <daftykins> ah
[18:16] <daftykins> makes me cringe hearing how folk in the office are on wireless :(
[18:17] <nicomachus> well my desktop is wired and connected to the intranet
[18:17] <daftykins> friend of mine that's a software dev for a huge dev firm in Houston is trying to do MS Azure performance testing... they got their wired connections taken away ;_;
[18:17] <nicomachus> but we also have a wireless AP that is a separate network for personal devices. In this case, my laptop.
[18:17] <daftykins> oh you get given both? that's handy, also keep hearing about businesses that provide laptops only
[18:17] <daftykins> oh it's personal only?
[18:18] <nicomachus> and the wireless network doesn't have access to intranet sites or any connection to the main network. so less locked-down in terms of security.
[18:18] <nicomachus> which means I can actually SSH into my home server without sending up a flag for IT to call me and inquire about.
[18:18] <daftykins> did you get far with the VT-d thing?
[18:19] <nicomachus> yea once I enabled that it worked fine.
[18:19] <nicomachus> took a bit to find the option in the BIOS though
[18:19] <daftykins> oh so it wasn't even passworded? i thought that was why you hadn't done it
[18:21] <nicomachus> you know, for how strict they are at some aspects of security, they are incredibly lax when it comes to individual machines.
[18:21] <nicomachus> I shouldn't be able to boot from USB or change BIOS settings or probably even install a VM without admin approval, but here we are.
[18:21] <daftykins> i truly thought you were only wrestling last week because the BIOS was locked down
[18:22] <nicomachus> no I just didn't wanna reboot at the time. haha
[18:22] <daftykins> holy crap, man - you shock me
[18:22] <nicomachus> haha why?
[18:22] <daftykins> so are you still going down that insane VM route instead of just discovering the Windows tools?
[18:22] <nicomachus> no, I'm just bringing in my laptop and using that for a lot of stuff.
[18:23] <daftykins> >_<
[18:26] <daftykins> nicomachus: is it dev you do?
[18:27] <nicomachus> daftykins: no. nothing IT related.
[18:27] <daftykins> ah
[18:28] <daftykins> definitely pretty weird them not locking things down, i do it even for my travelling biz client
[18:28] <nicomachus> oh well. Not much risk from our type of office.
[18:28] <daftykins> nah given they've gotta get past the physical security to get in anyway, all bets would be off
[18:33] <nicomachus> physical security is VERY strong. haha
[18:34] <daftykins> cor proper rain again here, somehow it's turning to ice on the roof
[18:53] <nicomachus> this SSL error in Chromium is starting to get very annoying.
[18:54] <nicomachus> http://i.imgur.com/oqXtumW.jpg
[19:05] <daftykins> someone the other day said the next version sorts it
[19:05] <daftykins> but that it's probably not in the repos yet
[19:11] <EriC^^> howdy
[19:16] <daftykins> heya \o how are ye?
[19:56] <EriC^^> daftykins: hey, good you?
[19:57] <daftykins> mmm not bad here cheers
[19:58] <EriC^^> cool
[19:58] <EriC^^> :D
[20:12] <EriC^^> i've got some dr pepper from a large supermarket here
[20:12] <daftykins> :D
[20:12] <daftykins> i sometimes treat myself with a bottle of that
[20:13] <EriC^^> i wonder why they dont sell it everywhere here, just pepsi/coke miranda and 7up usually
[20:13] <EriC^^> i really wish they would bring more dr pepper/cherry and taco bell here
[20:13] <EriC^^> not a single taco bell here
[20:14] <daftykins> miranda o0
[20:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:14] <daftykins> not heard of that one!
[20:14] <EriC^^> it's like crush
[20:14] <EriC^^> it tastes ugh
[20:15] <EriC^^> https://www.makro.co.za/Images/Products/Large/MIN_176630001_EAA.jpg?v=20160308