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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:12
MoBeatsmorning08:16
brobostigonmorning MoBeats08:21
knightwiseHeya Geekz08:41
brobostigonmorning knightwise08:49
davmor2Morning all09:16
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy GIS Day! 😃  🌍 🛰09:41
foobarrydaughter was coughing all night. had me up since 4. want my bed09:53
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVuuatjHGnY got you covered10:43
awilkinsIs there a way to get the duplicity command that Deja-Dup will use without running it?10:56
awilkinsScenario: supporting mom's PC remotely. Need to run a backup, can't run Deja-Dup over X tunnel because it needs dbus as well10:57
davmor2JamesTait: that one do you I'm obviously assuming her baby didn't have location turned on ;)11:03
JamesTaitdavmor2, it's buzzing around my head now, so I think that's a yes. 😉11:04
davmor2awilkins: is your mom on an ubuntu system?11:05
davmor2awilkins: if so then deja-dup will backup on a schedule to a remote location you would just need to setup the remote location to mount on boot and done11:06
awilkinsdavmor2, It needs you to log into an X session for it to work11:21
awilkinsHer X is broke11:21
awilkinsSo I'm doing a backup before I upgrade her to 16.10 and hope it fixes things11:21
awilkinsShe's 250 miles away so it's a bit of a trek to provide maternal tech support in person :-)11:22
davmor2awilkins: deja-dup I thought could be run from cli too11:29
davmor2awilkins: http://askubuntu.com/questions/636264/how-to-make-a-backup-with-deja-dup-from-command-line11:30
awilkinsYou can start it from the command line but it still raises a GUI and wants dbus as well11:31
awilkinsI fixed the GUI thing by tunneling X back here, but if I tunnel dbus it's just going to read my config instead of hers11:31
awilkinsCan you start dbus without X?11:32
Laneydbus-run-session cmd11:32
awilkinsta11:33
awilkinsFailed to execute child process `duplicity`11:34
awilkinsWould it hurt if the default backup system GUI depended on it's dependencies...11:34
awilkinsNo wonder her backup hasn't run in months...11:35
awilkinsAnd python-gi ... *sigh*11:37
awilkinsRemember this when I upgraded before... I guess there must be some flag that says "I've installed the deps!" in dega-dup11:37
awilkinsWhich persists in your home folder if you trash the OS and install again (with home on a separate partition like a sensible person...)11:38
awilkinsAt last, backup is cooking11:41
awilkinsHuzzah11:41
davmor2awilkins: huzzah11:42
foobarrywhat does it mean when slack offers to import github girst image links?12:13
foobarrygist*12:13
foobarrys/image//12:13
foobarrytry again: what does it mean when slack offers to import github gist links when you've pasted a url to a gist?12:14
foobarryi guess it would display in the channel?12:14
diddledanfoobarry: I believe it shows in an embedded iframe15:05
daftykinshttp://gizmodo.com/apple-will-fix-touch-disease-on-your-iphone-for-just-1-178911395715:17
daftykinslawsuit eventually resulted in a response there for the evil devices15:18
daftykinshttp://forums.macrumors.com/threads/graphic-card-issue-new-2016-15-bto.2015343/15:20
daftykinsnew macbooks are faulty already15:20
daftykinsmight just be drivers though, time'll tell15:20
diddledanthe touchbar broke?15:20
diddledanoh gf15:20
diddledangfx15:20
daftykinsone site reviewer had one DOA too15:31
daftykinsmakes you wonder how many are like that of any other product line, since obviously it's just the vocal minority thus far15:32
diddledaninteresting, pfsense and partner netgate have a new firewall hardware due based on an arm cpu: https://shop.amicatech.co.uk/shop/hardware/sg-1000-microfirewall/15:45
daftykinsmmm ham and cheese panino, just what the doc ordered on a grey day16:12
daftykinsdiddledan: ouch at that cost16:13
diddledandaftykins: they do more expensive options :-p16:18
daftykinsthe multi core AMD x86 i got from linitx was about the same price with 3 interfaces and multiple mini PCIe slots for wifi and other cards16:19
daftykinswhich they finally have switched on down in Spain \o/16:19
diddledanone of these? https://linitx.com/product/linitx-apu-2c-3nicusbrtc-pfsense-embed-firewall-kit-black/1413016:23
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-uh1VPYEbE <-- about porn blocking16:48
diddledanit is, however unfortunately, safe to view at work or near the wife16:48
daftykinsyep it was that device16:59
diddledanlooks to be an amd jaguar embedded cpu17:03
diddledanhttps://pcengines.ch/apu2.htm17:03
daftykinsyarr17:04
diddledanhas aes-ni which is good for vpns17:04
daftykinsi'm still waiting for the Spanish ISP to enable a port forward on the antenna, so i can remote into it17:04
daftykinsit being that router box17:04
diddledanoh, it's a wireless network?17:05
diddledanall bets are off then :-p17:05
daftykinsthe ISP we chose yeah, because most places in his area don't even have phone lines17:06
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diddledandang. must be the middle of nowhereistan17:06
daftykinswow my memory has been shocking of late, totally forgotten the intel wireless tech that tried and failed to compete with 3G...17:06
diddledano_O17:06
daftykinssouth coast of Spain, so all the infrastructure is akin to third worlds17:06
diddledanI think spain is pretty third-world everywhere17:07
daftykinsWiMAX, that's the one17:07
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diddledanaah yes17:07
daftykinsso there's a big tower on the hill above his apartments area and he gets 20Mb down, 6Mb up on a funky seasonal rate for being a holiday-home type17:07
diddledanthat's not bad speed for a wireless innernet17:08
daftykinsit's kinda funny because the little pfsense box has managed to update the dynamic DNS hostname to the correct internet facing IP, but it seems the IP is held by the PoE dish on his wall - so you're still firewalled17:08
diddledanlol17:08
diddledanreverse tunnel :-p17:08
diddledanget the box to vpn or ssh to you17:08
daftykinsbut yeah just waiting for the guy to forward the port for the VPN setup i have on there all ready to go and i'll be sorted17:09
diddledan\o/17:09
daftykinsbox itself is already connected to my VPS in London, so once i can get in i can pick devices on the LAN that need to be British, then they'll have their traffic tunneled :D17:09
diddledanyou gonna shove everything down the vpn so he gets a british geolocation?17:09
daftykinsyou guessed it! not everything though17:09
daftykinswonder if amazon have started to block VPS providers, netflix have of course17:10
daftykinshrmm Saturday is 'international games day'17:23
davmor2I wonder if with the new ip laws we can basically bring down all the isp's by all setting up spiders :D17:26
davmor2also everyone brace for isp price hike to pay for all that storage that will be required by law17:28
diddledandavmor2: I'm with a&a who have as a contract agreement that they cannot implement any king of monitoring like the IP thing requires without at least 1 year of written notice17:44
diddledankind*17:44
davmor2diddledan: expect a letter anytime soon then ;)17:45
diddledanas in they must give me 1 year of notice before they're able to monitor my browsing habbits17:45
daftykinsanother sad example of democracy that that one is making it through, assuming the Queen ok's it17:45
daftykinsglad it's not going to apply to me...17:45
diddledandaftykins: need a lodger?17:45
daftykinshaha suuuure, but you have to get behind the queue of US folks wanting to escape here ;)17:46
davmor2daftykins: no gchq already has yours right :D17:46
* diddledan starts using Tor17:47
daftykinsi thought that has been widely regarded as unsafe anyway17:47
zmoylan-pii'm sure the malware gchq can now use on your intel mangement engine renders that moot17:47
diddledanI wonder how it impacts people renting a VPS to act as VPN endpoint17:47
daftykinsME is only in business systems actually, chief17:47
zmoylan-piyou think gchq doesn't make money? :-)17:48
daftykinsdiddledan: hrmm suppose technically providers of VPS' may count as ISPs in a form17:48
davmor2diddledan: no use they are allowed to have anything unencrypted right :)17:49
diddledanwat http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/11/18/JS114056176_Theresa_May_Merkel-large_trans++Q7WNz19EjnCWyGlhqb7K13uxKb_1pKS244PZc2vSMHU.jpg18:44
daftykinsperhaps it was an inuit greeting?18:44
diddledanI think it's "no, I love you more.."18:46
zmoylan-pieach finds the other's countries worries a great distraction for their own citizens18:47
daftykinsanyone kicking some money to Mozilla now there's another fundraiser on? :)18:48
diddledanthey're funkraising?18:49
daftykinshttps://donate.mozilla.org/18:49
daftykins'tis on my startpage18:49
diddledanI should probably install firefox18:49
zmoylan-pii still use it as main browser on my systems with more than 1gb of ram...18:50
daftykinsit's always my main one :>18:50
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=== PocketBot-lushka is now known as pavlushka
SebthreeBQM10HDpopey, ping19:42
daftykinshttp://www.library.gg/events/event/international-games-day o020:34
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/Mattrudge/status/79961783314764595221:27
daftykinsyeah, the 'edited' status does suggest a mistake21:33
zmoylan-pithen again as someone who has worked in i.t. i have had people ring me up and i have simply read out loud to them the email i sent them before they called me as my answer21:37
daftykinsXD21:38
daftykinshow do folks in the office combat colleagues ignoring their emails content? like the old classic of reading 1 of 3 things when all 3 need a reply21:38
zmoylan-piat one point i got a pack of darts, printed off the emails and did a 'message for you' to wall beside their head...21:39
daftykinssuch tree murder!21:40
zmoylan-piwasn't much fun for the walls either21:41
daftykinsindeedy21:41
MartijnVdSdaftykins: with LARTs21:44
daftykinsyou're awfully fond of those :)21:44
daftykinsi think that's been the last 4 things you've said to me, MartijnVdS :D21:45
MartijnVdS😏21:45
zmoylan-pii think my personal best was leaving a birthday card on someones desk and a nice little multitool pressie stabbed through it into the desk quite deep... :-P21:45
daftykinsi discovered ignoring a client asking a silly question doesn't result in them figuring it out, this week :<21:47
zmoylan-piyeah, trying to ignore stupid people doesn't work when they are too stupid to realise they're been ignored...21:47
daftykinsyou've got to love the query...21:48
zmoylan-pino, you really don't :-)21:48
daftykinsfirst one: a forwarded email "renew your $software" - should i renew this!?21:48
daftykinssecond one: "i can't work out how to reduce the number of licenses!"21:49
awilkinsdaftykins, I took to putting an "executive summary" at the top of emails21:58
awilkinsNot sure it actually did any good21:58
daftykinshehe21:58
daftykinsi did find i was being unnecessarily wordy in the beginning21:58
awilkinsCurrently I is mostly hating... server-side validation using nodejs libs21:58
diddledanawilkins: fun22:15
diddledannodejs is always interesting22:16
diddledanhaha: https://twitter.com/luke_dot_js/status/79927178713340313622:16
diddledannice startrek style dress: https://twitter.com/heruniverse/status/79973778576248832022:18
daftykinsbit racey22:18
zmoylan-piand not a red shirt... so they won't die on first away mission...22:19
diddledanit's engineering yellow, so she's an intellectual22:19
zmoylan-pithey don't die till the enterprise is under attack22:20
diddledanprobably death by warp core breach22:20
zmoylan-pion a first date22:20
diddledanor maybe hull rupture22:20
zmoylan-pihull breech is defintely third date22:20
zmoylan-pior maybe their samsung console going all explody in their face...22:29
awilkinsShe's not gonna be happy if you order her into a Jefferies Tube full of radiation though22:36
daftykinsbut that's the best kind!22:36
daftykinsheh seems like amazon prime video is still down22:40
diddledandaftykins: probably due to the load of people trying to watch the grand tour?22:41
daftykinsyeah, but then it was down yesterday too22:42
daftykinsbut i suppose that was all the discount rate signups too :>22:42
diddledanwhich then begs the question, if amazon can't handle the load of a single service that they run for themselves, how do companies expect them to handle the load of hundreds of other services via AWS too?!22:42
diddledanwtf? https://twitter.com/abc7newsbayarea/status/79971798507823513722:46
zmoylan-pisomeone chucked a box of daz into a fountain?22:54
zmoylan-pia bulk discount mother of all boxes box22:54
diddledanrelated: https://twitter.com/dakami/status/79975140354767667223:10
daftykinsXD23:13
daftykinshis sketch is quite generous23:14

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