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naccTomyWork: bah, i think it's because i built against a -proposed version; i just updated the ppa's deps, let's see what hpapens00:00
rexwin_I have mysql starting automatically after boot, but I want it not to start. ubuntu 14.04 what to do?00:06
abbashi to all00:06
skaag1I have a problem booting on this system, Grub says no suitable video mode found, and it's booting in blind mode00:06
skaag1(and nothing seems to be happening after that)00:07
Bashing-omskaag1: Try booting with the nomodeset boot parameter . what now results ?00:10
lordcirthrexwin_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services#1932400:10
abbasi have a question on installing ubuntu. fedora was partitiond my hdd and now i want to install ubuntu.i want /home fedora partion as ubuntu home.if i select mount point and don't check format this partition all files will kept or not? [sorry 4 bad english]00:10
lordcirthabbas, Ubuntu may overwrite certain files.  I wouldn't recommend using a Fedora homedir for Ubuntu, anyway.  Config files will be missing00:11
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abbasthanks lordcirth.00:13
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TomyWorknacc at least i now know which command lines were used during the build :)00:23
naccTomyWork: true :)00:26
skaagBashing-om: I tried nomodeset instead of quite nosplash and it was the same00:27
skaaginstead of "quiet nosplash"00:27
lordcirthDoes anyone know a backup utility that has a GUI for telling you it's working, etc, but can also be easily managed by editing a .conf file?00:30
Bashing-omskaag: Next step down to try and boot . boot from grub . Is this a EFI machine ?00:34
skaag1It is an EFI machine, I do boot from the USB stick and get to the grub menu, but that's all I can do00:37
Bashing-omskaag: Well, I have no experience with EFI . others will have to advise . Do you mean though that booting with the USB is intentional ?00:38
skaag1I have no other option… no cdrom or anything else on that machine00:40
skaag1It does have some Windows something from some company called Microsoft00:40
skaag1looks weird00:41
ben24792Hi I am an oldskool N00b, I havn't been on IRC in 15 years. :)00:42
skaag1ben24792: I've been on IRC non-stop for the last 25+ years… same underwear even.00:43
ben24792Well they do become a part of you.. (both IRC and underwear)00:44
ben24792I am glad there are still people in here.00:44
lordcirthI think this is a bit offtopic00:45
Bashing-omskaag: Booted up In that liveUSB, show the channel the output -in a pastebin - if terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . We see what we have to work with .00:45
ben24792true, who is having a linux problem? Perhaps I can help.00:46
Bashing-oms/if/of *00:46
lordcirthben24792, don't worry, someone will ask soon enough00:47
naccben24792: that's not really how the channel works. If you want to help, wait for someone to come in and ask for help.00:47
ben24792ah, been a while. OK, I will see if anything pops up I can lend a hand with00:48
ken8521ben24792: you know anything about lxde by chance?00:48
skaag1Bashing-om: I am not getting to a shell - in Grub I press 'e' to edit the entry, I put 'nomodeset' instead of 'quiet nosplash' and it says "booting in blind mode". It's stuck there. I tried leaving it there for a while, but nothing happens.00:49
Bashing-omskaag1: Are we talking about booting up an actual install on the hard drive .. or trying to boot a USB ?00:52
skaag1the grub menu gives me both options, it's the "Ubuntu 16.04 live" image. I can either install ubuntu, or try it out without installing. Both behave the same.00:52
freakyyhm, i just contacted the ppl from support, hosting company, and they say i have to partion the hdds while running. is this possible?00:52
ben24792I think you can with gparted but do you only have one physical disk or several?00:54
Bashing-omskaag1: Reboot the liveISB, escape key to get the boot options scren, escape key again to accept the default language -> boot patameters screen . F6 key and choose 'nomodeset' . what results ?00:55
TomyWorknacc looks like it's just apt-get source $package && apt-get build-dep $package && cd "$package"-*/ && fakeroot debian/rules binary00:55
skaag1freakyy: as long as it's a 2nd drive or a 2nd partition, sure00:55
skaag1Bashing-om: I already tried the nomodeset00:56
Bashing-omskaag1: Did you verify the .iso file download ? did you verify the copy to USB ?00:57
naccTomyWork: yes, that should work00:57
skaag1I'll try all of this again tomorrow with a different image, and a different usb stick00:57
skaag1maybe it's damaged00:57
Bashing-om!md5sum | skaag100:58
ubottuskaag1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM00:58
ben24792quit00:58
ben24792lol00:58
TomyWorknacc from the logs i'm projecting that i'm not nearly done, so i guess i'll go home now :)00:59
Bashing-om9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~01:03
freakyyskaag1: with what tool should i partition? and if i wanna replace /var with one of the partitions how do i do that? i mean ... do  i have to cp -R /var ./varbackup and then mount the hdd partition to /var and then move stuff in again?01:11
David_FCEy guys, I am kind of confuse with APT. Has any sense use Aptitude as a command line? in this case is not the same as if I were using apt?.01:12
David_FCThanks.01:12
krytarik!aptitude | David_FC01:14
ubottuDavid_FC: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.01:14
David_FCHi ubottu , thanks. So is not advisable use aptitude (neither front end or command line)?. Use apt is better?01:18
Bashing-omDavid_FC: Use the tools that work best for you . aptitude and apt are both front ends to the package management system .01:25
David_FCthanks Bashing-om . Last question. Does not make conflicts use apt as command line but synaptic as interface sometimes?01:27
Bashing-omDavid_FC: Nope, no conflicts so long as only one is active at any given time . http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=104157 <- tutorial on package management ; https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude .01:28
David_FCBashing-om, ubottu krytarik thank you so much for your orientation. I really appreciate it.01:30
Bashing-omDavid_FC: :) There will come a time that you "pass it on " .01:31
john1231234hello, i cant send files when i use xchat on ubuntu but i can on win, why this happens?01:39
john1231234does ubuntu uses any firewall or something?01:40
peyamhi01:42
peyamI get this erro message while entering a PPA https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23493434/01:43
workisfunhi guys, i accidentally disabled my touchpad (ubuntu 16.04), i tried the steps here http://askubuntu.com/questions/159397/how-to-enable-touchpad with no luck01:44
gwahyyrI'm new to Ubuntu, so I cannot help, but maybe you can check a way to reload touchpad following your PC type01:45
workisfunhow do you do that01:45
gwahyyrlike typing your PC type into a browser search and how to load touchpad01:45
gwahyyrwrite the type of your computer into google and add something like "how to load touchpad"01:46
Bashing-ompeyam: Which PPA and how are you attempting to access ?01:46
squintyjohn1231234,  fwiw, xchat is no longer being developed. recommend these days is it's replacement hexchat (in the repo's) don't know anything about it's file transfering capabilities though01:47
ben24792hello linux gurus, I am a new ubuntu user. I have a cannon all in one. I am switching from windows to linux as my main working envions. I need to get the printer and scanner installed on ubuntu 14.04 if that works I will need to do it again on 16.04 um any ideas?01:47
john1231234i also tried hexchat01:47
workisfunnvm i alt tabbed back into the touchpad settings, tabbed until the switch was selected and pressed space to reenable it gwahyyr01:48
gwahyyrso it works now?01:48
john1231234squinty, same happens01:48
john1231234squinty, it has something to do with firewall01:48
peyamBashing-om, add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java01:49
Matt_1_fishHello01:49
Matt_1_fishI need help! I know nothing about ubuntu01:50
squinty!book01:51
fn2Matt_1_fish, just ask the question and someone will help you if they have the time.01:51
squinty!manual01:51
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/01:51
Matt_1_fishI am a window user from way back and a friend gave me this lap top for my grand daughter. I wanted to use netflix on here for her.01:52
Matt_1_fishHow do i do that01:52
Bashing-ompeyam: Do not know, should be good : http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu .01:54
Matt_1_fishI have the manual now. Thank you01:54
wedgieMatt_1_fish: chrome should be able to display netflix. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html click that link and follow the instructions to install01:55
ben24792matt: I too am a windows user too, since the DOS days. Now I am switching to linux. I do know how to turn a laptop into a linux box you can use for netflix01:55
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Matt_1_fishok, glad i am not alone01:56
ben24792matt: have you installed ubuntu on the laptop?01:56
Matt_1_fishyes01:56
ben24792matt: which version?01:56
Matt_1_fish16.401:56
ben24792matt: is it running well for you on that HW?01:57
Matt_1_fishYes everything is working but i am not skilled with programing01:58
Matt_1_fishand i was told this is a hard system01:58
Matt_1_fishI fell like an idiot01:59
Matt_1_fishfeel01:59
ben24792matt: no worries mate01:59
dnWhat does it mean01:59
dn [ -n "${FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE}" ]01:59
Bashing-omMatt_1_fish: It is point and click , then it only gets as hard as you want it too .02:00
squintyit's a learning process....just the same process as back in the dos days02:00
wedgieMatt_1_fish: not hard at all. Click the link I sent you, click the Download button. That will download and install the Google Chrome browser. And with that you can log into netflix and watch.02:00
Matt_1_fishi was good with dos back in the day. lo02:00
squintyMatt_1_fish,  "day at a time" applies to linux too  :-)02:00
dn [ -n "${FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE}" ] --- what does it mean ?02:01
Matt_1_fishok All, thank you for the help i will be back on and let you all now how the link went02:01
ben24792matt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760085/how-do-you-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-16-04#76045202:01
wedgiedn: that is "true" (exit code 0) if the variable $FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE is not empty.02:02
delinquentmeHi all I want to make it so I can call $ avrdude in any  new terminal  and have it point to this instance of avrdude buried in my system.  How do?02:02
delinquentmeI was thinking editing $PATH but that doesnt seem to work02:02
ben24792matt: ctrl-alt-t to open terminal. Which is like good ol CMD .. This is called bash. cut and paste the commands from the URL02:03
pacovcis there a command to completely remove a package?02:03
dnwedgie thx02:04
wedgiepacovc: apt-get purge <package>02:04
pacovcnice thanks02:04
Bashing-ompacovc: 'sudo apt purge <package> " no package manager will remove mess about in your own /home .02:05
ben24792matt: after you have installed the chrome browser program, click on the icon in the top left corner, this is called the ubuntu dash, (like the start menu in winblows) just type in chrome and then click on it to run.02:06
ben24792matt: you can also right click on the chrome icon once it is on the dock (or toolbar in winblows terms) and click "lock to launcher" which will keep the program stuck there for future access02:08
root_zzz02:22
ben24792matt: any joy?02:24
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ben24792I know I can install a generic CUPS driver for my canon and that should work for printing, but I am wondering if I can get the ADF, Scanner, and duplex printing out of ubuntu. I am looking up the model number of the printer now02:29
freakyyhi all. i want to make a sw-raid1 ... what is the best tool to partition my hdds? in a terminal?02:33
OerHeks!raid02:33
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto02:33
wedgieis btrfs' mirroring stable/safe yet?02:34
xyzonenope02:34
OerHekswedgie, some say it is, i would use zfs02:34
OerHeks!btrfs02:35
ubottuBtrfs is a filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is not recommended by default, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs02:35
lisa_exit02:36
wedgieOerHeks: yeah, i've heard some horror stories but know several people who have been using it on their laptops for a few years now with no problems. Some say that for single drives and mirrors it's ok but the raid1-2 equivilents aren't so good02:36
wedgieoh well. Guess i'll keep waiting02:36
xyzonebtrfs is stagnant02:37
wedgiei want so badly for it to be ready. All the good parts of zfs without the licensing headaches for linux AND the flexibility to add drives and change raid levels on the fly and such. But none of that is worthwhile if it eats your data02:38
OerHekshard to tell, which user cases are safe, hw raid or just a jbod02:38
freakyyOerHeks, well that only gives help for on installation. i need while running - the ssds are already swraid1 an have the os now i put in 2 hdds - i need to partition those whats the best tool02:38
OerHeksfor cli, parted i guess02:39
ben24792I use ZFS in a sw raidz1 on my freeBSD system, and it works very well. I have not tried sw raid on ubuntu02:42
ben24792my Canon MX870 series - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.10-pre2 was installed, I will do some more googling to see if I can find a useful scan util.02:44
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freakyyOerHeks, ok thanks02:51
MSDhttp://pastebin.com/GkkDy5UE on ubuntu 14.0403:03
thejonevening all. I'm struggling with an rsyslog issue. Trying to get an app (nova-api) to push logs through rsyslog. Got it to it, but it's reporting it's app-name as '2017-11-17'. Any pointers as to where I might look to configure that?03:07
vexati0nhello -strage problem on  Ubuntu 16.10. I'm not sure it is Ubuntu's fault, but maybe someone has run into it before -- On the wifi network at my job, Ubuntu periodically loses the ability to resolve DNS names. It will be connected for 5-10 minutes, and then every program on the system just can't lookup anything. However, the command "nslookup" still works.03:16
freakyyhi all i have a problem. there were 2 hdds put into my server, which i partitioned before. but now i need to repartition them but they are mounted as swraid1 under names i cant unmount: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23493759/03:38
freakyycan someone help me? :)03:38
freakyyoh nm i needed to stop the raid array03:44
freakyynot unmount it03:44
freakyy;D03:44
Slyverhi :)03:57
ben24792well setting up a printer and scanner on ubuntu is now something else I might be able to help others with. :)04:07
ben24792I didn't see anything from Matt on his issue. I hope he got it solved.04:09
meteor545good evening. i have just installed 16.04 64 bit on my toshiba satilite laptop. the wifi does not work. it did on windows. rfkill list shows hard block yes. the switch is in the on position. anyone  have some insite?04:09
breezy_why does my cursor suck in ubuntu04:10
breezy_it keeps disappearing and flashing04:10
ben24792Meteor: I know this is going to sound silly, but have you restarted the the system since you installed ubuntu?04:11
ben24792breezy: Is ubuntu installed on a VM?04:11
meteor545yes once after installing updates04:11
freakyyhi all. why cant i create a raid array here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23493860/04:11
breezy_ben24792: no it isnt04:12
breezy_for the most part its okay, but when i go to certain windows it just disappears04:12
MarcoPis there a particular reason ubuntu likes to be a pain when deleting files even in root?04:12
breezy_fixed it04:13
ben24792meteor: still no wifi? I did have wifi issues on a ubuntu 16.04 install and I restarted it and that solved the problem. Beyond that, I am afraid I can not help. Most of my ubuntu experience is with desktops04:14
MarcoPnever mind I got it deleted04:14
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ben24792breezy: It sounds like a display driver issue. have you tried installing additional drivers tab in the settings>software & updates.04:16
meteor545thanks this is my third laptop the other two where running mint with no problems now this one has this wifi issue. i think its a toshiba thing as the last one had the same wireless card04:16
ben24792breezy: sometimes it picks up display drivers that you can install.04:17
ben24792meteor: Sorry I couldn't help I wonder if ubuntu forums might have some scriptfoo for toshiba wifi04:18
ben24792I am off to bed, thanks for the help today guys.04:19
meteor545ill search the forums tomorrow, thanks04:21
jo-hello04:23
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tigerbSould i scrap the idea of getting the lenovo ideadpad 100s, because of the linux support (http://askubuntu.com/questions/815301/can-ubuntu-be-installed-on-an-ideapad-100s-atom-laptop)04:30
tigerbor has it been resolved with the atom now04:31
MuffinMedicIs tehre a way in screen to identify which window split I'm curently using?04:36
jon5000hello can anyone help me get the touchscreen working on 16.0404:46
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BazookaToothMuffinMedic: try using byobu. makes it easier to see the splits. i think on ubuntu it defaults to tmux but it can alo use screen.04:50
cashHi Everyone04:56
cashWeird code after update about an ignored file.  Any suggestions?  cash@cash-MacBook:~$ sudo apt autoremove04:56
cash[sudo] password for cash:04:56
cashReading package lists... Done04:56
cashBuilding dependency tree04:56
cashReading state information... Done04:56
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Poppolinocan I get a bit of advice please? I'm going to remove windows from my pc and install ubuntu but I can't decide whether to use 16.04 or 16.1005:12
Poppolino(I'm pretty experienced with debian so I mostly know what I'm doing)05:13
thingfishwhen in doubt, go with what's current is my philosophy.05:13
Poppolino16.04 is LTS though05:13
thingfishwell yeah05:13
Paul5After upgrading to every point release for years, I stick with LTS unless specific reason not to05:13
Poppolinowhat made you change to doing that, Paul5?05:14
Paul5can expect a few gotchas that take some digging and hacking, not much and not bad, but cumulatively annoying05:14
Poppolinook cheers for the advice05:17
PoppolinoI think I'll go with 16.04... should be easy enough to upgrade if I change my mind anyway05:17
Poppolinoeasier than going backwards :P05:17
Paul5yep.05:17
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bwepngongnickserv identify radicals805:26
Random832better change it now05:26
Random832protip: you can set your nickserv password as the server password in most irc clients05:26
freakyyomg i now run an ubuntu server ^^05:40
freakyywhat is better with ubuntu server than debian?05:40
cfhowlett!server | freakyy,05:41
ubottufreakyy,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server05:41
Squarism2how do i let a user run a program that listens to port 80?05:57
Squarism2im on 16.0405:57
walriderwc06:03
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darshikahello06:08
walriderDrone`, :D06:12
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DataAdminI have a user that cannot start an application on port 80 on ubuntu, whereas i as root can do it06:39
DataAdmin16.0406:39
hateballDataAdmin: Yes, that is by design06:40
hateballDataAdmin: Only root can use ports 1-102406:40
DataAdminoh ok.06:40
DataAdminSo web apps should be run as root then?06:41
hateballDataAdmin: Maybe if you tell us what you're actually trying to do you can get a suitable answer06:42
DataAdminlet a user start a webserver on port 8006:43
hateballby default something like apache runs as a restricted user, but the service itself is started by root06:43
DataAdmin...and i dont want him to run apache06:43
DataAdminhe has his own webserver06:43
DataAdminI know i could start apps on my ubuntu desktop 14.0406:45
DataAdmin...on port 80 as non root06:46
tgm4883DataAdmin: no, I'm pretty sure you couldn't do that06:48
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tgm4883not without some customization anyway06:49
hateballDataAdmin: Maybe if you modified the kernel to allow such a thing to happen06:49
DataAdminyou are right06:49
DataAdmini was misstaken06:49
epx998Anyone performing unattended installs with dnsmasq, tftp, grub2?06:53
c1pherhi06:57
epx998hi06:57
acosonichow do I disable root login to mysql without password? On Ubuntu 1607:15
tgm4883acosonic: set a password for the root user?07:17
acosonictgm4883 already tried that, does not work07:19
acosonichm, done...07:20
tgm4883acosonic: hmm. That root login only works from the local box? not across the network right?07:20
acosonicthis fixed it07:21
acosonicmysqladmin -u root -h localhost password ws8dr8as307:21
acosonicfollowed by mysql restart07:22
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namehello08:04
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nameHow are you?08:04
robo220Hiya08:04
rbwilkinsonunable to connect to python08:12
rbwilkinson wrong irc08:12
rbwilkinsonsorry08:12
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blue-cheesehullo08:13
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crazycoderhello08:43
crazycodercan i run android app under ubuntu somehow?08:43
nikhil_hi08:44
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Guest96704So, I have a new IP in my area and they use http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/zm-tel/product-detailZKInmvDJOTrk/China-4G-Modem-Lte-450MHz-Ba... This modem does not support AC so I was thinking about getting http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-5032_Archer-MR200.html If I were the open the modem they gave me and take out the sim card ( if there is one) Would it work in the new router? This Chinese router just sucks an08:55
backyardvoodooubuntu mate for powerpc is a blessing! Not at all as slow as I expected on an iMac G4.09:01
mtbraatz_#wordpress09:09
mmchi h09:18
mmchi09:18
mmcanyone here now ?09:18
Kingsyis there an official ubuntu version which comes with openbox?09:19
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STOP_nwo.09:19
hatiacDoes someone have an idea, how I can block htop from opening every time I log in to my server (16.10) via SSH? Also if I open new window or pane in tmux, htop does pop up right away.09:20
ikoniahtop should not open by default09:22
ikoniayou have done something (put it in your profile for example) to make that happen09:22
hatiacI just installed from htop and it started to happen.09:22
ikoniaunlikely09:22
hatiacI meant installed from apt.09:23
alkisgMaybe you already had that in your .profile, and it didn't launch because htop wasn't there, and it started launching once you installed it09:23
mmcwhy kvm dose not work on ubuntu 14.04  when  kalli is installed on that ?09:23
ikoniammc: kali is an OS - you don't install an OS on an OS09:23
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ikoniaor do you mean when you run a kali VM guest09:23
ikoniahatiac: look at your shell profile09:24
hatiacI checked from my .profile, but there's nothing about htop09:24
mmcikonia : i know  , i installed kali in kvm virtual machine09:24
Zenhatiac: what about the system level profile?09:24
mmci have another problem09:25
mmci do not know why my root space is full09:25
ikoniahatiac: .profile is not the file09:25
ikoniahatiac: .bash_profile and .bashrc09:25
ikoniammc: look at what's eating your space09:25
mmci looked09:25
ikoniammc: ok - and what's eating your space ?09:25
mmcbut couldnt understand09:25
ZenClearly not hard enough09:26
ikoniajust to be clear, you think you can run virtual machines - but you don't know how to manage / look at your file system locally ?09:26
hatiacikonia: Also checked those, no htop found.09:26
ikoniahatiac: going to have to walk through the profiles and your start up routine for your shell then09:26
geirhaPS4='+ $BASH_SOURCE:$LINENO:' bash -xlic ''09:26
ikoniahatiac: htop is just a binary it will not start by default09:26
mmcikonia  : you are right but it is very weired09:26
ikoniammc: pastebin the output of df -h please09:26
geirhashould show where htop is started09:27
ikoniageirha: thats an nice idea, very nice09:27
hatiacikonia: Yeah, that's why I don't understand why it's starting automatically after installing it for the first time.09:27
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glitchdwhat sort of issues wouldi encounter with a 64 bit system installed with only 2 gigs ram?09:37
hateballglitchd: none09:37
glitchdhateball, well i just installed 64 bit xubuntu on my older hp desktop, and what ive noticed is that its very slow and laggy. im not sure if its just because i only have 2 gigs ram on the system or because im using a 64 bit os09:39
glitchdor09:39
glitchdif its because its pure xubuntu instead of my standard install of ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop added09:39
glitchdsome say the 2 variations are basically the same but i find that when i have ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop it performs so much better.09:40
STOP_nwoRetired HEAD OF FBI Tells ALL "Illuminati, Satanism, Pedophile Rings"           ----------------> please listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU09:41
hateballglitchd: Are you maxing out your 2GB ram? "slow and laggy" is not very helpful09:41
hateballglitchd: is the CPU being maxed out by some process? Do you experience "lag" in the UI due to poor GPU?09:41
glitchdhateball, well for starters, when i try to update from terminal it hangs for up to 30 seconds before giving any feedback that its working. programs take a considerable amount of time to open/operate, and the overall feel of the system is very sluggish.09:43
glitchdhateball, i had 32 bit installed yesterday and it seemed to perform loads better, nothing really hung unless i opened alot of browsers or windows09:44
glitchdi was lead to believe that the pae kernel included by default in the 64 bit installs would perform as good as the 32 bit counterpart with the same amount of ram09:45
glitchdhateball, ^^09:45
hateballglitchd: what's the output of "free -m" ?09:46
hateballglitchd: Sounds to me like the slowness is from disk based activities09:46
alkisgglitchd: your observations sound unrelated to the 32/64 bit architecture. Check for other causes, like e.g. the 30 seconds timeout may suggest a failed dns lookup.09:47
glitchdi was lead to believe that the pae kernel included by default in the 64 bit installs would perform as good as the 32 bit counterpart with the same amount of ram09:47
glitchdoops..09:47
glitchdhateball, http://pastebin.com/wUv3Viaj09:48
glitchdhateball, im not on the system im speaking of, its next to me tho09:49
hateballI wonder why your system is swapping while you have 800mb free memory09:49
hateballIf you have a slow HDD, I'd at least start by lowering vm.swappiness09:50
alkisgIt might have swapped a while ago when he was using more memory09:50
glitchdhateball, swappiness is set like this cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness09:51
glitchd1009:51
glitchd*set to this09:51
hateballalkisg: fair point09:51
hateballAnyhow, there is a slight memory overhead using 64bit compared to 32bit, and perhaps that causes you to swap more frequently09:53
glitchdhateball, alkisg are you suggesting that i changed the swap factor to higher than 10?09:53
hateballglitchd: Lower is "better" if you want to swap less09:53
alkisgglitchd: no, i suggest that you don't touch swappiness at all09:53
glitchdhateball, thats what i thought too09:53
alkisgglitchd: I also suggest that you find some lag that is reproducible, and at that point of the lag, check cpu, ram etc09:53
glitchdalkisg, so just unmount swap completely?09:54
alkisgNo, leave the defaults09:54
Kingsyis there an official ubuntu version which comes with openbox?09:54
ikoniawhy would you unmount swap ?09:54
ikoniaif its using swap it's because it needs it09:54
ikoniaso removing it seems bad09:54
glitchdikonia, sry i didnt meant unmount swap, i meant more like turn off swap09:54
glitchdalkisg, everything lags. everything.09:55
alkisgglitchd: the defaults are to have swap, and to have swappiness=60. Leave it to that.09:55
kelexwhy09:55
ikoniaglitchd: why would you do that09:55
glitchdalkisg, ok ill change it back and see if there is a diff09:55
Kingsyor better question, if I wanted openbox what would be the best way of getting that with ubuntu and nothing else?09:55
ikoniaglitchd: if it's using swap too much - its because it needs to swap09:55
hateball!minimal | Kingsy09:55
ubottuKingsy: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD09:55
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alkisgglitchd: so, when you login to your desktop environment, and open an xterm, and move it around, it lags?09:56
kelexneed for what09:56
Kingsythankyou09:56
glitchdalkisg, no, but if i open a brower, it lags to open, if i open more than 1 window it lags. like i said, it lags to do anything. im not expecting lightning performance, just really thinking it should be going faster than it is09:59
alkisgglitchd: if you open the browser with no other apps open, and with no tabs at all, (a) on i386, and (b) on amd64, you see a performance difference? You shouldn't. If you do, measure the time needed and file a bug report.10:01
glitchdalkisg, in that instance, no it doesnt lag to drag it around the screen, but if i have more than 1 open, yes it does lag10:01
alkisgglitchd: then it sounds like your ram is getting excausted. Login, run "top" in a terminal, then check if swap is used. It shouldn't. Then start openining the browser and tabs etc, and if you see the swap getting used, it's due to low ram.10:03
glitchdalkisg, i just changed swappiness back to the default of 6010:03
ikoniaglitchd: what is the spec of your machien10:04
glitchdalkisg, ill open top right now and watch it for a minute10:04
linociscohi all10:04
linociscoin Terminal commmand line, Ctrl +A make cursor go to the first letter of the line. what about going to last letter? which command?10:05
linociscoctrl+E?10:05
mellebHi all, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. After installing virtualbox my ubuntu doesn't recognize available resolutions, I *think* this might have something todo with virtualbox hooking into the kernel and some stuff being reconfigured, but I'm clueless how to go about getting my initial display mode list back. xrandr only shows my maximum available resollution (4k) and some low resolutions, but not the resolutions in between10:11
mellebIs there some command I can run to 'rescan' all the avialable resolutions? Instead of manually adding them all?10:12
mellebI tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail10:13
mellebGoogling only shows adding resolutions to xrandr by hand10:13
alkisgmelleb: put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin10:13
mellebalkisg: http://pastebin.com/A1qpW6Tu10:14
alkisgmelleb: were you using the nvidia module, or nouveau, before vbox?10:16
mellebnvidia10:16
mellebalkisg: nvidia10:16
alkisgmelleb: contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?10:17
mellebalkisg: Tried purge + reinstall of nvidia-367 and nvidia-prime10:17
mellebalkisg: http://pastebin.com/bC9a4Lpn10:18
glitchdikonia, sorry its taking forever to uploade the picture10:20
glitchdalkisg, im still trying to upkload the picture10:23
glitchdikonia, im still trying to find something to compile all the specs for me because im not completely sure about what they are, but nothing is working for me10:34
glitchdwelp this is proving to be fruitless. im just gonna reinstall a 32 bit distro and be done with it. thx for the help everyone, much appreciated.10:38
Ben64glitchd: unlikely to make an appreciable difference10:41
BluesKajHiyas all10:41
glitchdBen64, i had the same distro but the 32 bit varient install right before i put 64 bit on there, it did perform better. it didnt hang over everything10:42
Ben64could be in your head, could be unrelated to architecture10:42
glitchdtrue enough10:43
glitchdim sure its not all in my head lol10:43
glitchdfor 1 updating was instant, whereas when i update with this install it just hangs at 0% for a good 30 seconds before anything happens10:43
hattancan anyone plz help me to install testdisk?10:44
glitchdBen64, my other thought was to install ubuntu and the xubuntu desktop, as thats what ive always used10:44
Ben64hattan: sudo apt-get install testdisk10:44
Ben64glitchd: ubuntu will probably be slow on both architectures10:44
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glitchdBen64, i have it on the system im using now10:45
glitchdBen64, its not slow10:45
hattanBen64: its giving an error in last as "E: Unable to locate package testdisk10:45
hattan"10:45
glitchdBen64, but there are considerable differences between the 2 systems10:45
Ben64with a limited amount of ram it will be10:45
Ben64or a limited gpu10:45
Ben64hattan: what version of ubuntu10:46
hattanBen64:   16.0410:46
Ben64open the software center, go to software sources in the menu, and enable the universe repository10:46
glitchdBen64, this is the gpu 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)10:46
Ben64yeah i wouldn't run unity on that10:47
glitchdlol i never run unity10:47
glitchdi dont like it10:47
Ben64ubuntu desktop is unity10:47
glitchdi always run xfce10:47
glitchdyes it is10:47
glitchdbut10:47
Ben64so why say you install ubuntu and xubuntu desktop?10:48
glitchdubuntu with xubuntu desktop installed is basically xfce10:48
ikoniawhy would you not use xubuntu ?10:48
ikoniait sounds like you're making problems10:48
Ben64indeed10:48
glitchdbecause like i said, ive always gotten better performace from that setup than just pure xubuntu10:48
ikoniathat is just nonsense10:48
glitchdi know10:48
glitchdit makes no sense10:48
glitchdbut im serious10:49
ikoniait's the same base OS - I think you are not in a position to judge things with that approach10:49
glitchddead serious10:49
ikoniaglitchd: I'm serious - no10:49
glitchdwell its all a matter of opinion i guess10:49
ikonianot really10:49
glitchdim not gonna sit here and argue with you about it. ubuntu with xubuntu desktop performs better for me than straight xubuntu10:50
glitchdthats not gonna change just because you dont agree with me10:50
Ben64classic case of "feels faster"10:50
glitchdlol not really10:50
ikoniayou're just crushing any credible information you give us10:51
glitchdand..?10:52
ikoniait makes it pretty hard to be able to work with you10:52
glitchdso because you dont agree with me, makes me hard to work with?10:53
ikoniano10:53
ikoniabecause I'm not able to trust your comments10:53
glitchdbecause i dont agree with you then?10:53
ikoniahow did you measure your "better" performance10:53
Ben64humans make lousy stopwatches10:53
glitchdvery true10:53
glitchdwell i did not sit there with a stopwatch if thats what your getting at10:54
ikoniapointless to discuss10:54
LinuxNovicehi...10:54
LinuxNoviceikonia: hi..10:54
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stevenmInstalled 16.04 on my work's Dell optiplex 3020 (has onboard intel graphics) - works fine, even dual monitors.  But if I'm after 3D accelerated graphics am I better installing "Intel® Graphics for Linux*" via the "Intel® Graphics Update Tool for Linux* OS" tool available at 01.org?10:57
stevenmbecause I've noticed if I try and use something like VMware Workstation it complains 3D hardware accelerated graphics are not available10:57
LinuxNoviceI'm new to Linux. Installed LXLE on my old laptop bought in 2005.10:58
ikoniastevenm: nope10:58
ikoniastevenm: you're more better to use the components shipped with ubuntu10:58
LinuxNoviceIs it significantly different than Lubuntu?10:58
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ikoniaLinuxNovice: no10:59
ikoniaLinuxNovice: it's just not integrated into the ubuntu packages/apps10:59
LinuxNovicecan I install software packages from Ubuntu Software Centre into LXLE?10:59
ikoniaLinuxNovice: why would you just not use lubuntu or the "lubuntu-desktop" package from ubuntu10:59
ikoniahow did you install lxle ?10:59
stevenmwtfrigg is lxle - is that just a work of lxDe ?10:59
stevenm*fork11:00
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ikoniaoh dear, it appears to be a different distro now11:00
ikoniarather than just a desktop shipping package set11:00
LinuxNoviceikonia, downloaded an iso file from LXLE website11:00
ikoniaLinuxNovice: we dont support non ubuntu distros here11:00
stevenmno it actually *is* LXDE - just with a confusing name :S11:00
ikoniastevenm: it's a re-spin11:01
LinuxNoviceikonia: It has got a lot of packages available and is quite fast.11:01
glitchdthanks everyone11:01
LinuxNoviceikonia: I liked Lubuntu, but it looked too simple.11:01
ikoniaLinuxNovice: it's nothing to do with this channel - we don't support it here, sorry11:02
ikoniaLinuxNovice: we only support ubuntu distros here11:02
LinuxNoviceikonia: ok. but, it says that it is based on Lubuntu.11:02
ikoniaLinuxNovice: because it's based on lubuntu, it's not lubuntu though11:03
stevenmLinuxNovice, doesn't mean it *is* ubuntu - which is officially recognized... and would be in #lubuntu anyway11:03
ikonia#lubuntu will not support lxle11:03
stevenmikonia, no i was just saying that even if it was lubuntu - you wouldn't use this chan to talk about lubuntu specific stuff :P11:03
LinuxNoviceikonia: ok. do you think Lubuntu is better than lxle?11:04
LinuxNovicesince, I have a very old laptop, I need a very lightweight linux distro.11:04
ikoniaLinuxNovice: lxle is basically a non-official release of lubuntu11:05
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ikoniaso again, I've no idea why you think one is simple, the other is not11:05
stevenmLinuxNovice, there has to be a cut off at some point though :P I mean I still have a machine from 1995 and I don't expect it to run a linux distro from today - however cut down.11:06
LinuxNoviceikonia: ok.11:06
LinuxNovicewhich linux distro you both suggest, then?11:07
mario_hi all, I have a problem. I had to analyze lot of files (1.5TB) stored into an external usb drive. after 4-5 hours my java program said that it cannot find the files... like the hdd gets unmounted... but when I check the hdd is reachable11:08
LinuxNoviceI have an Acer Travelmate 2420, with 2gb RAM, 1.6 GHz Intel Celeron M processor, 40 gb hdd.11:08
mario_ideas?11:08
LinuxNoviceI don't wanna throw away this old laptop.11:09
stevenmLinuxNovice, that's up to you - do you even have a preference on any of these things?  a) under the hood base of the OS (e.g. debian derived, fedora derived).... b) a preference in desktop environment?    i mean I'd start thinking about that first - narrow your choices down.11:09
LinuxNoviceI want something, that runs fast with even this limited resources. I'm new to Linux. Don't know much about the technical aspects.11:10
stevenmi.e. if you were preferring LXDE more than any other DE... wanted it to be debian based... but didn't care about it being ubuntu derived (e.g. for the use of ubuntu PPA's and other ubuntu binary-compatible repositories) then you can just run debian 8 lxde11:10
stevenmoften these respins of other things (especially the ones that mostly add cosmetic stuff) are here one day and gone the next11:11
hateballIt's quite !ot, you could try asking in ##linux11:12
backboxWell hello11:12
LinuxNoviceI want something that is stable, secure, well supported, with good number of packages available and also very lightweight.11:12
stevenmLinuxNovice, PM me if you like - because this is very offtopic11:13
mikecmpbllanyone know how i'd detect bandwidth throttling on a vps? i want monitor and detect if bandwidth on a webserver becomes a problem and requests are getting delayed11:14
mikecmpbllit's not a fully formed thought yet as i'm not really sure how the whole thing works, but in the past we've had speed issues and it's taken me a while to work out that it's a bandwidth issue, so i'd like to set up some monitoring.11:15
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derbieHello! Is there a way to remotely use ubuntu on windows desktop similar to teamviewer?11:17
hateballmikecmpbll: you're saying two things here, one is throttling and one is monitoring. do you want both, or one or the other?11:17
hateballmikecmpbll: never mind, my brain cant read post-lunch11:18
derbieWish i could swap keyboard mouse and display between machines...11:18
mikecmpbllhateball : the throttling is out of my control11:18
brunch875I remember installing teamviewer in linux11:18
mikecmpbllhateball : hehe11:18
brunch875I'm pretty sure there's a client11:18
derbieI'm worried about performance11:19
derbiethere'i won't get fast response11:19
hateballderbie: if you just want have a single mouse/keyboard control multiple machines there is synergy11:19
hateballderbie: if you want a full remote desktop, there is for instance xrdp or vnc11:20
hateballmikecmpbll: do you have unlimited data?11:20
mikecmpbllyep. our VPS will have 'maximum burst' of 40mbps or something, with a contention of 4:1 (guaranteed 10mbps).11:21
aniketh_Ping11:21
enycPong11:21
aniketh_I was trying youtube-dl got some error11:21
aniketh_can you help me out :P11:22
derbiehow responsive is synergy?11:22
enycaniketh_: maybe, as is always case.  instead make a decent problem report/quesiton with clear details and be patient.11:22
mikecmpbllhateball : it'd be great if something could warn us that we're hitting the max.11:22
enycderbie:   VNC  can be good enough, depends11:23
hateballmikecmpbll: well I'm sure you could do that with nagios or something11:23
mikecmpbll(without us having to tell it what the max is? for easy deployment across servers with varying bandwidths ..)11:23
enycderbie: also going for virtualizers  can help =)11:23
hateballmikecmpbll: well you'd need to know what the max is to know the alert threshold :)11:23
mikecmpbllhateball : yeah .. i guess that's inevitable11:24
hateballmikecmpbll: there are many tools but it all depends on the end goal11:24
hateballmikecmpbll: like you could use vnstat to log all of this, but there's no alerting built in11:24
mikecmpblli wonder if monit can do it, as we already use that.11:24
hateballmikecmpbll: I havent used monit, but it seems reasonable it can11:25
mikecmpbllhateball : thanks! :)11:26
hateballmikecmpbll: are you not monitoring the bandwidth with it today?11:26
hateballlooking at screenshots it seems to have such capabilities11:27
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mikecmpbllhateball : nope, we're not11:30
Shadowmmmy ubuntu software center crashes everytime i open it11:30
Shadowmmand this is a fresh install11:31
gunakkochello, anyone knows about remastersys or respin?11:34
aniketh_enyc:  https://paste.kde.org/py3bhgmtc11:36
aniketh_enyc:  Network issue. that's why this late error report11:36
brunch875If I install a random.deb I yoink from the internet, will apt update it?11:37
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enycbrunch875: no, unless the package adds a PPA source or so  to point at repository11:37
Shadowmmmy ubuntu software center crashes everytime i open it11:38
Shadowmmand this is a fresh install11:38
brunch875enyc: short and simple, thank you :)11:41
hateballShadowmm: can you make sure you are fully updated by running "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a terminal?11:41
Shadowmmhateball> had a few updates left. i will install them and see if it fixes the problem11:43
Shadowmmdone11:43
Shadowmminstalling the updates fixed it11:43
Shadowmmthank you hateball :)11:44
hateballShadowmm: :)11:46
helloNLHey, currently I have a Legacy FakeRAID running with Windows on it and Ubuntu Gnome, but after trying it out I am not sure if I like gnome as user interface as it is out of the box. I like a taskbar like Windows has. Can I just run another Ubuntu installation and just run it over the current Ubunty Gnome installation?11:50
hateballhelloNL: you dont need to reinstall, you can just "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" if you want to install another DE. You can choose at logintime11:51
hateballhelloNL: and if you want a panel like windows, then kubuntu-desktop with kde plasma or xfce or lxde could be viable options11:51
OverCoderummm11:53
OverCoderAnybody knows of a nice screen capturing tool where I can press a button, capture an area, and it automatically uploads to some service like imgur and opens the image in the browser as well as allow me to delete the image later?11:54
OverCoder😛11:54
ikoniahateball: just change the desktop11:54
ikoniahateball: sorry11:54
ikoniahelloNL: just change the desktop on linux11:54
ikoniahelloNL: you don't need another install11:54
helloNLhateball: I am currently googling for images of the OS but what do I need to google for the xfce version?11:54
helloNLAh ok ikonia11:54
helloNLI just don't know how to get rid of the ubuntu gnome environment when changing to another :P11:55
helloNLAlso the boot animation was gone for some reason, I just see a lot of [ OK ] Something11:55
ikoniahelloNL: once you install a different desktop environmet (KDE/LXDE/Whatever) it will be presented as a session in your login11:55
helloNLsudo apt install xubuntu-desktop   if I run this will I have the xfce version?11:57
hateballYes11:57
helloNLFrom the images I like that one :P11:57
rommelis there anyway to get ubuntu to use efi instead of csm on a macbook-pro11:57
helloNLhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905408   http://i.imgur.com/bU92V.png this one looks nice too :P12:00
reeedhi all i just did a minimal ubuntu server install into a VirtualBox VM. ifconfig -a shows only device 'lo' and no 'eth' -- how do I enable eth? (VBox networking is setup as NAT)12:03
geirhayou edit /etc/network/interfaces.  man interfaces  for documentation12:04
rommelreeed, make sure the driver for the device is loaded?12:05
reeedi don't even have a man command12:05
reeedhow to make sure the device driver is loaded?12:05
sb_9http://pastebin.com/QYHjgWfq12:06
rommelwell you have to know what driver is needed then lsmod and modprobe12:06
reeedok12:06
reeedany hints what network driver can be used for a vbox guest?12:12
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rommelreed http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html12:17
reeedyep reading now12:18
akikreeed: you don't see any network adapter in the vbox guest ?12:18
reeedifconfig -a only gives 'lo'12:18
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reeedlspci shows an Ethernet controller: Intel Corportaion 82540EM blah blah12:18
akikreeed: what about sudo lshw -c network ?12:19
reeedi don't have the lshw command12:19
reeedit's a minimal ubuntu server install12:19
reeedcould that be the very problem ?12:19
akikreeed: what about "lsmod | grep e1000" ?12:20
ChetManlyIs anyone having a problem with 16.04 not seeing .vbox files in the VBOX manager?12:20
reeednuthin. lsmod alone gives nothin12:21
akikreeed: e1000 kernel module supports vendor: 8086 ("Intel Corporation"), device: 100e ("82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller")12:21
reeedok how do i load this driver?12:21
ChetManly i can clearing see them on the hard drive12:21
akikreeed: try "sudo modprobe e1000"12:21
reeedmodule e1000 not found in directory /lib/modeules/blah blah12:21
dandels"lspci -v" tells what kernel module is loaded for the device. That's a lot easier than grepping12:22
reeedlet me reconfig the VM using the 'virtio' device and restart12:22
reeedlspci -v: no mention of kernel device12:23
reeedSubsystem, Flags, Memory, I/O ports, Capabiltiies12:23
akikreeed: the kernel module e1000 is in the linux-image package12:24
ChetManlyI wish people would stop making applications without the drop down box to view "all files" in the 'files of type' box12:24
reeedbut i can't get the linux-image package without a network connexion !12:25
reeedanyway, rebooting the VM now using 'virtio' device12:25
reeedok excellent. now lspci -v says kernel driver: virtio-pci12:25
reeedwooooo!12:25
akikreeed: you can copy files from the host to the guest12:25
reeedand my NIC is enp0s3 not eth012:26
reeedwow12:26
reeedthanks all. now i can proceed.12:26
reeedoh no. pings anywhere don't pong.12:27
dandelsreeed, what does "ip a" say in the enp0s3 section? ip a is like ifconfig except not deprecated12:29
reeedif only i could copy-paste.12:29
reeedit says the interface is UP 10.0.2.15/2412:29
reeedetc12:29
dandelsreeed, "/query phrik ptpb" in irc for a handy command12:30
reeedbut 'route' says default  is 10.0.2.212:30
dandelsThat package is for Arch though, so I wouldn't try installing it12:30
dandelsOh right, you need network connection for that..12:30
dandelsDisregard it.12:30
dandelsreeed, do you have any network service enabled?12:32
dandelsdhcpcd, NetworkManager..?12:33
reeedi doubt it. it's a minimal install12:33
reeedthere's dhclient12:33
reeeddhclient was running earlier (don't know how it started). i killed it with dhclient -r, restarted, and nothing changed.12:34
dandelsAnything in the logs?12:34
dandelsI'm not familiar with dhclient, but I'm assuming it produces some sort of pseudo-English on what went wrong12:35
reeedit's silent, which presumably means OK ?12:35
reeed /var/log/syslog says DHCPDISCOVER DHCPREQUEST DHCPOFFER etc finally bound to 10.0.2.1512:36
reeedso it works.12:36
reeedbut my packets aren't getting out of the host... hmmm12:36
dandelsreeed, might be an issue with how you configured the network adapter for the VM. I don't have much experience with that though.12:38
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reeedyou might be right.12:38
reeedi'll probably start all over later.12:39
reeedthx for the hints12:39
dandelsAlright, good luck12:39
reeedlearnt quite a few new linux commands ;)12:39
C_Rhum68brown12:47
DavidjholtHello there, does anybody in here have a good knowledge of Raspbian?12:53
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RaspberryPiNoobHi guys, trying to configure proxy settings on a raspberry pi but I suck12:55
RaspberryPiNoobDoes anybody have any idea what to do?12:55
RaspberryPiNoobHELLO!?!?!?!?!?12:56
RaspberryPiNoobhelp me :(12:56
RaspberryPiNooblooks like i never ever get succ]12:56
capsulhi12:56
RaspberryPiNoobhi capsul12:56
capsulyop RaspberryPiNoob12:56
RaspberryPiNoobdo you have any idea about configuring a proxy in Raspbian?12:56
capsulCan i add files with my write DVD img. ???12:57
capsulno :/12:57
RaspberryPiNoobk bye12:57
Kingsyguys, I am trying to install ubuntu minimal on my lenovo thinkpad yoga 15 laptop, but its saying no network interfaces detected...12:59
Kingsywhat would usually be the reason and resolution for this?12:59
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ioriaKingsy, wifi i guess .... you should use a cable13:02
Kingsyioria: but the wifi works on ubuntu 16.0413:03
Kingsyregular iso13:03
hanishhi my ubantu software centre is crashing after 2second while launching is there any fix for it?13:03
ioriaKingsy, regular yes, mini nope13:03
Kingsyioria: yup.. so is there a way of getting it working on mini ?13:03
hateballhanish: is it freshly installed? run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to make sure everything is updated13:04
ioriaKingsy,  you mean install mini with wireless ?13:05
Kingsyioria: yeah13:05
dandelsKingsy, when you say "it says no network interfaces detected", *what* gives you that error?13:05
ioriaKingsy,  not that i know ... after the install you can surely use wifi... but not when you install13:05
Kingsydandels: the installer13:06
eczanehi13:06
Kingsyioria: ah ok, i guess I can just complete the installation without internet? or is it required?13:06
ioriaKingsy,  nope, mini is a net-install ....13:06
ioriaKingsy,  you can go with ubuntu-server13:07
ioriaKingsy,  net-install  mean it download pkgs from web13:07
ioria*s13:07
Kingsyioria: ubuntu server? but this is not a server... its a laptop13:09
hanishthanks hateball13:09
ioriaKingsy,  basically, it's the same  :þ13:09
ioriaKingsy, you need mini ... why ?13:10
Kingsyioria: well I wanted a minimal ubuntu installation.. so I could install only what I needed13:10
Kingsyso for example openbox13:10
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Kingsyhowever...  on second thoughts I might choose something else.13:11
ioriaKingsy,  ok.... or mini (with cable, then xorg then openbox) or ubuntu-server and then install a gui13:11
Kingsyioria: this laptop is touch screen... which DE is best suited for that?13:11
Kingsyioria: it doesnt have an ethernet port unfortunately13:11
ioriaKingsy,  oh.... so try server13:12
ioriaKingsy,  or lubuntu and then you'll fun removing lxde13:12
KingsyI am starting to think because its touch gnome might be best?13:12
ioria*have13:12
ioriaKingsy,  no idea about touch gnome13:13
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XATRIXHi guys, i have x64 windows 10 tabled, and i want to install Ubuntu for tablets. Is there any version for Intel Atom arch ?13:42
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fabzor3hey XATRIX go and download the 32 bit version to be safe13:44
fabzor3can you tell me what model atom you are running?13:44
fabzor3some atoms are 64 bit13:44
XATRIXprestigio visconte v tablet i currently have.13:44
XATRIXYea, it's 64 bit atom seems like, but 2G of ram13:44
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fabzor3well any normal 64 bit linux will run on it13:45
fabzor3theoretically, if the minboard and video card is supported13:46
XATRIXsure, but i saw there's tablet optimized version of13:46
fabzor3there is13:46
XATRIXis there any to download?13:46
fabzor3seems like they want to charge you money for it13:46
fabzor3yeah there is a way - give them all you money ;)13:46
XATRIXdamn, i thought linux is for free :))))13:46
ortsvorsteherhello. i just bought an dell vostro with ubuntu 14.04 lts on it. I need to setup, but the setup process interupt by typing a location. is there any way to restart the setup process?13:46
fabzor3LINUX is13:46
fabzor3thats just the kernel though13:47
fabzor3but people pay for solutions13:47
XATRIXsure, support charges :)13:47
fabzor3wait13:47
fabzor3have you tried normal 64 bit ubuntu?13:47
XATRIXnope13:48
fabzor3please give it a shot13:48
fabzor3get yourself a usb13:48
fabzor3download an iso of 64 bit ubuntu13:48
fabzor3get rufus for windows to make a bootable usb13:49
fabzor3and give it a whirl13:49
fabzor3or if you prefer you can also use unetbooting to make a bootable usb - unetbootin also runs on linux13:49
XATRIXyea. sure, i did it before. i just wanted to understand, if i can download a tabled version for free13:50
fabzor3let me see13:50
ortsvorsteherhello. i just bought an dell vostro with ubuntu 14.04 lts on it. I need to setup, but the setup process interupt by typing a location. is there any way to restart the setup process?13:51
cfhowlett!patience | ortsvorsteher,/13:51
ubottuortsvorsteher,/: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:51
Royfabzor3, Universal USB Installer is a great tool as well. Never failed for me.13:51
ortsvorsteher!cookie|cfhowlett13:52
ubottucfhowlett: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!13:52
fabzor3cheers Roy13:52
fabzor3XATRIX: understand these things13:52
fabzor3the tablet version if for ARM13:52
XATRIXyea got it13:52
fabzor3ARM uses less battery ust is less powerful13:52
fabzor3and there are a lot less packages out there for ARM13:53
fabzor3ARM is a kind of processor architecture13:53
fabzor3you are fortunate enough to have a bangin 64 bit x86 processor13:53
fabzor3so you cant even run the arm os13:53
fabzor3let alone the arm packages13:53
fabzor3this is a good thing because there is WAY more packages out there for you and your intel atom cpu13:54
fabzor3if you REALLY want a tablet os then customse the hell out of your gnome interface and makedo with that13:54
fabzor3you will be able to run heaps of great software with your atom so get ubuntu x6413:55
fabzor3the main thing will be getting multi touch working with ubuntu13:56
lotuspsychjefabzor3: easy on the enter button please13:56
fabzor3and it may work out of the box, who know? give it a go, thats part of the fun... trying and seeing what happens13:56
lotuspsychjefabzor3: we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel if you like13:56
fabzor3ok sorry about that I will calm down13:56
ortsvorsteheri install it from new. have a good day13:56
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merchhi14:09
lotuspsychjemerch: welcome, what can we do for you?14:09
xroHi, i have a laptop with ubuntu 16.04 installed. I would like to configure a screensaver slideshow but i cannot figure out where i should configure it14:11
xroanybody knows where i should set ip up ?14:13
lotuspsychjexro: you can install xscreensaver14:13
lotuspsychjexro: then add it to startup items14:13
xrooh, was not installed :-(  ok i'll try it now14:15
adqqHello.14:15
lotuspsychjexro: you might have to add a startup line like xsreensaver --nosplash or something14:16
adqqIm liking unity but i cant disable the 4 finger tap that opens dash. Is there a way?14:16
adqqPlease help. Thanks.14:16
xrook, than you14:17
gmyhello14:20
adqqPlease... anyone? I would love to keep ubuntu as my main distro14:21
cfhowlettso keep it then, adqq14:21
lotuspsychjeadqq: best way to get your issue solved is to re-ask once in a while so others can read14:21
lotuspsychjeadqq: adding relevant info/details can be a real help to volunteers also14:22
lotuspsychje!details | adqq14:22
ubottuadqq: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.14:22
adqqUsing ubuntu 16.04. How can I disable the 4 finger tap on the touchpad that opens dash. Is there a way?14:23
lotuspsychjeadqq: can this wiki help you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch14:25
adqqlotuspsychje: No, read that already.14:27
XATRIXhow can i find out which UEFI version used in ISO ? ubuntukylin-16.04.1-desktop-amd6414:27
adqqI was able to disable the 3 finger tap in ubuntu for switching windows... But i cant disable the 4 tap.14:28
uddanehey guys, does anyone know why today's update would only go through if I disabled 3rd party PPAs?14:28
Royadqq, I found this in a quick search: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57586/how-can-i-disable-arbitrary-default-multitouch-gestures-in-unity14:30
RoyBut it might be outdated info.14:31
lotuspsychje!info touchegg | adqq also found this, perhaps usefull?14:35
ubottuadqq also found this, perhaps usefull?: touchegg (source: touchegg): Multitouch gesture recognizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 63 kB, installed size 183 kB14:35
adqqRoy: Yeah, saw that already but is that the only way? Only compiling?14:35
adqqlotuspsychje: Hey. Have you tried it?14:36
lotuspsychjeadqq: not myself, but it sounds usefull14:38
lotuspsychjeadqq: perhaps your existing gestures will show on that app?14:38
adqqlotuspsychje: Im running live now but I cant install it14:38
adqqIt says the package is not available14:39
lotuspsychje!info touchegg xenial14:40
ubottutouchegg (source: touchegg): Multitouch gesture recognizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 63 kB, installed size 183 kB14:40
lotuspsychjeadqq: i would recommend to install ubuntu 16.04 fully, with all updates connected to internet14:40
lotuspsychjeadqq: here also a clean tutorial for how touchegg works: https://www.linux.com/learn/how-configure-touchscreen-linux14:43
arandommudkiphello14:43
svgnew install 16.10 (advanced installer), network manager insists on not managing my ethernet interface; I removed the stanbza from /etc/network/interfaces ans confirmed managed=false, but still not works :(14:45
svg(also tried managed=true but doesnt work either)14:46
adqqThanks. I installed Ubuntu before but I couldnt fix it.14:48
lotuspsychjeadqq: make sure you upgrade to latest 16.04.114:49
adqqlotuspsychje: Im using that iso.14:49
lotuspsychjeadqq: kk14:49
adqqlotuspsychje: Maybe a more customizable Ubuntu version?14:50
adqqlotuspsychje: Xubuntu maybe?14:50
adqqlotuspsychje: What do you recommend?14:50
lotuspsychjeadqq: i think for tablet use, unity should do fine14:50
lotuspsychjeadqq: of course you have the choise as user, to use what flavor you like14:51
-RadicalJihadist:#ubuntu- Allah akbar!14:52
RadicalJihadistAllah akbar!14:53
RadicalJihadistHe has given us the right to shit our pants14:53
lotuspsychje!ops | RadicalJihadist14:53
ubottuRadicalJihadist: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu14:53
XATRIXGuys, where can i get 32bit UEFI version of LTS ubuntu ?14:54
lotuspsychjeXATRIX: can you explain what you are trying to do?14:55
OerHeksXATRIX, not. 32 bit uefi is a hack, no guarantee all hardware will work14:55
OerHeks!uefi14:55
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI14:55
OerHeksXATRIX, if your CPU is 64 bit, sue your vendor for a 64 bit uefi.14:56
enycXATRIX: seems (read the linked page above!!!!) that 23bit UEFI is not normally/directly implemented.14:56
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neuromute9hey folks, sitll on 14.04, having trouble adding an ssh key to the agent... running `ssh-add ~/.ssh/mykey` and it flat out doesn't ask me for the passphrase (there is one)... what to do?15:15
Ultra_DuckZhi, how can I install boost 1.60 on xenial?15:23
Ultra_DuckZ1.60 or newer15:23
Sagari have deleted a file using rm myfile.zip15:23
Sagaris there a way i could recover it with any software, its a server, i have less space on the server please help15:23
TomyWorknacc, looks like the upload failed again :/15:25
Sagaranyone?15:25
linuxblah15:26
Sagar...linux...15:26
lotuspsychjeSagar: recover files with photorec15:26
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | Sagar15:26
ubottuSagar: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-1build1 (yakkety), package size 355 kB, installed size 1405 kB15:26
Sagarphotorec will help?15:27
Sagari don't have space i need to recover specific file15:27
Ultra_DuckZSagar: I recovered some files I deleted by mistake, but it all depends on if the space occupied by the old file was overwritten already by other files15:27
lotuspsychjeSagar: add another dir to recover the files to15:28
Ultra_DuckZSagar: I was lucky because in my case it was on a usb disk, I just unmounted it immediately and I was able to recove everything15:28
Sagarok any guides how to use photorec?15:28
lotuspsychjeSagar: its easy, install testdisk, sudo photorec and scan your partition for lost files15:29
Ultra_DuckZSagar: I used this I think... can't remember exactly http://askubuntu.com/questions/6698/can-files-directories-deleted-with-rm-be-restored15:29
Ultra_DuckZextundelete15:30
Sagarhow can i make only find .zip files?15:31
Trojan302find *.zip15:31
Sagarno i mea with photorec15:32
neuromute9Trojan302, he want's to only find .zip with photorec/testdisk15:32
Sagari want photorec to recover only .zip files inside the folder15:32
neuromute9wants*15:32
neuromute9derp15:32
lotuspsychjeSagar: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step15:32
neuromute9Sagar, I don't think that is possible, but google is your friend15:33
neuromute9You're gonna need a lot of space to put the recovered files15:33
McYa_Greeting. i have RadeonHD 7800. i understand the new open source driver is on the way, but can i do anything to fix small, yet noticable screen tear on video playback? im on 16.0415:33
neuromute9It effectively examines the disk for files, as opposed to reading the index of files on disk (which is what your OS filesystem layer is doing)15:33
TomyWorknacc i got an idea... why dont i just binary-patch that thing? :)15:34
neuromute9Sagar, that's a good point.... what FS is this?15:34
neuromute9If it's NTFS, there's some good/easy recovery tools15:34
McYa_any of you lads alive? i apologise to whine. but this problem has been persisting to me for while.15:36
SagarFS?15:37
SagarI am on ubuntu 16.0615:38
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: wich driver in use?15:38
Sagar04*15:38
McYa_the one that came bundled in with installation.15:39
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: wich is?15:39
lotuspsychjeradeon?15:39
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: sudo lshw -C video behind driver=?15:40
McYa_just showing list of option15:41
McYa_i tried sudo lshw -C display and all it shows me: driver=radeon15:42
Trojan302check chek15:42
ioriaMcYa_,  try this https://cubethethird.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/eliminate-screen-tearing-with-amd-gpu-on-ubuntu/15:42
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: ok good, did you have tearing on vlc video's also?15:42
AyyHi Everyone.15:44
AyyI am very confused which version do i pick. i wanted a small in size ubuntu version where i can just install LAMP. its very appreciated if anyone can help me.15:45
McYa_yes  lotuspsychje15:45
AyyI was looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD but i am not sure about it..15:46
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: just curious, you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?15:49
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McYa_lotuspsychje: how would i know?15:49
XATRIXguys, how can i manually start ubuntu from flash disk using grub2 cli ?15:50
XATRIXi can't load it via native UEFI15:50
XATRIXbut i was able to start grub2 shell15:50
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras15:51
McYa_lotuspsychje: none was installed.15:52
jordi_heyy15:53
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: can you try install, so we know its not a codec tearing?15:53
McYa_lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get policy ubuntu-restricted-extra?15:54
McYa_on that note, may i ask you how to restart display manager?15:54
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras15:54
McYa_lotuspsychje: done. reboot pc?15:56
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: try a vlc video perhaps15:57
lory_ciauu  a tutti?^__^16:00
lotuspsychje!it | lory_16:02
ubottulory_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:02
McYa_lotuspsychje: it didnt remove it. but its a whole lotta lets noticable than before. i can still see screen tear if i eyeball it16:03
McYa_less* not lets.16:03
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McYa_Thank you though. all that's is left is to hopefully wait AMD push out support for my gpu. or are they only planning to support it beyond Radeon HD?16:04
TomyWorkI'm trying to insmod a binary-patched kernel module, but i get "insmod: ERROR: could not insert module btusb.ko: Key was rejected by service"16:05
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: system up to date to latest 16.04.1?16:05
McYa_lotuspsychje: yes16:06
TomyWorkthere's no message about this in dmesg. I'm on trusty with a 4.4.0-47 kernel from the linux-lts-xenial package16:06
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TomyWorkthe original btusb.ko is from that same package16:06
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: another option is to test a higher kernel as like 4.816:06
McYa_lotuspsychje: noted. will do that later tonight16:07
lotuspsychjeMcYa_: 16.10 liveusb perhaps?16:07
lotuspsychjegood luck16:07
McYa_yakkety yak?16:07
OerHeksMcYa_, are you sure your hd 7800 will be supported by the newer AMDgpu? i cannot find any confirmation about that16:07
OerHeksso radeon it is16:08
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schonehello16:20
exitnoodbye16:20
schonei got some iptables rules that i’ve made that block some in/out traffic on my outside interface, however i do allow established and related connections both on the INPUT and FORWARD chains…. for some reason apt-get update won’t fetch the mirrors list.  What rules does one need for that to work??16:21
angrycoastI have a Canon MG2922 printer for my ubuntu 16.04 OS and the printer works fine but the scanner does not, I am having trouble locating the scangearmp-common package16:22
exitnooddo you think people will anser you faster by using sould question marks?16:22
exitnooddouble*16:22
exitnoodyou gota love irc paranoia16:23
BlackVenomHey folks16:24
exitnoodyou eman peasants?16:24
BlackVenomI've installed apache2, php7 and phpsysinfo, restarted apache2 but when I navigate to local_ip/phpsysinfo i get error 40416:25
BlackVenomthe phpsysinfo files have been installed into /usr/share16:25
ubuntu-matehi16:26
BlackVenomWhat am I missing?16:26
ubuntu-mateim new on this16:26
exitnoodwhat happends if you navigate to locla_host ?16:27
BlackVenomexitnood, it's on a seperate networked maching16:28
BlackVenommachine16:28
exitnoodso why are you navigating to locla_ip?»16:28
BlackVenomthe local ip of the other machine16:28
exitnoodahaha16:29
exitnoodamuzing16:29
OerHeksexitnood, how helpfull16:29
BlackVenomDo I need to tell apache2 to check /usr/share as well as /etc/www?16:30
exitnoodi recon not as muchg as you16:30
exitnoodOerHeks:16:30
OerHeksBlackVenom,  if you find no answer here, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too16:31
exitnoodtry /notice #ubuntu* your_question16:31
BlackVenomThanks OerHeks, didn't know that channel existed16:31
MadPsyBlackVenom, check what /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/phpsysinfo contains16:31
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BlackVenomMadPsy there is no phpsysinfo file in that directory16:33
BlackVenomOnly charset.conf  javascript-common.conf  localized-error-pages.conf  other-vhosts-access-log.conf  security.conf  serve-cgi-bin.conf16:33
MadPsyit'll have a file somewhere in /etc/apache2/16:33
exitnoodsomewere*16:34
MadPsyfind /etc/apache2/ -name \*phpsysinfo\*16:34
MadPsyexitnood, somewhere.16:34
BlackVenomthat command returns no results MadPsy16:35
MadPsyhow did you install phpsysinfo, via apt ?16:35
BlackVenomi installed id using sudo apt-get install phpsysinfo16:35
OerHeksMadPsy, isn't it /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpsysinfo.conf  ?16:35
OerHeksold page, stil valid i guess, http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/06/monitoring-system-resources-on-ubuntu-server-with-phpsysinfo.html16:36
OerHeks Allow from 192.168.x.y16:36
exitnoodvote donald16:36
MadPsyI'd expect it to give a 403 not 40416:36
OerHeks!ot | exitnood16:37
ubottuexitnood: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:37
fooAny idea why I'm seeing this? https://bpaste.net/show/fd925ff31e6d - I can't run apt-get update, it always dies with Killedg package lists... 87%16:37
exitnooddoes apt-get use https16:37
fooexitnood: Is that a question for me?16:38
MadPsyOerHeks, conf.d is the old way... conf-available/conf-enable is how it /should/ be done now16:38
BlackVenomIm using Ubuntu server 16.0416:38
exitnoodmaybe someone injected code on your package while in transit16:39
Euri:)16:39
yeatsexitnood: not helpful16:39
angrycoastMy printer prints fine from my PC and I can see my printer in SimpleScan but I can't scan16:40
angrycoastI have the canon mg2922 printing over the network fine16:41
MadPsyBlackVenom, well phpsysinfo seems a bit broken given it doesn't provide an apache config file16:43
LinuxNovice_Hi, I'm new to Linux. I have a query regarding Ubuntu latest version 16.1016:43
LinuxNovice_in what way it is different from the earlier version 6.04 which is a LTS release?16:44
exitnood6.04 isnr supported anymore16:45
OerHeksLinuxNovice_, see the releasenotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes16:45
LinuxNovice_If as a newbie to Linux, I want to install Ubuntu, which release should I choose?16:45
OerHekschoose the 16.04 lts16:45
yeatsLinuxNovice_: 16.10 is fine16:45
exitnoodubuntu-budggie16:46
yeatsLinuxNovice_: 16.04 and 16.10 aren't all that different for the desktop user16:46
LinuxNovice_When is the new version going to be released. I think, 16.10 is supported for only 9 months.16:46
yeatsLinuxNovice_: if you're concerned about upgrading that often, then go with 16.0416:46
BlackVenomMadPsy very annoying16:46
mcphailLinuxNovice_: new versions every April and October16:46
OerHeksLinuxNovice_, users can have benefit with the newer kernel for newest hardware, else i would stick to LTS16:46
exitnoodbut you can dist upgrade16:46
MadPsyBlackVenom, I can provide a fix for you, but I'm not suggesting you use it16:47
BlackVenomI may just install the gui lol16:47
LinuxNovice_It means after some time support for 16.10 is going to be stopped?16:47
exitnoodbut you can dist upgrade16:47
yeatsexitnood: please stop - you're spouting nonsense16:48
exitnoodto 1716:48
exitnoodno worries16:48
exitnoodonly proble is creeping bugs16:49
MadPsyBlackVenom, there's 2 problems. 1) missing 'Alias /phpsysinfo /usr/share/phpsysinfo' (create /etc/apache2/conf-available/phpsysinfo.conf), then 'a2enconf phpsysinfo'16:49
yeatsLinuxNovice_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases will help16:49
MadPsyproblem 2) it wont work with PHP716:49
LinuxNovice_is 16.10 better than 16.04? In layman's terms could anybody explain in what way it is better? if it is.16:49
exitnoodit hs better support for newer hardware16:49
LinuxNovice_I'm switching from Windows.16:50
MadPsy16.04 has Long Term Support, 16.10 is more 'cutting edge'16:50
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yeatsLinuxNovice_: just one of many similar articles: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/download-ubuntu-16-10-new-features16:50
LinuxNovice_I can't understand the technical terms. I'm just a home user.16:51
BlackVenomAh it wont work with php 716:51
layhello16:51
MadPsyBlackVenom, https://github.com/phpsysinfo/phpsysinfo/issues/10116:51
MadPsythe 'Alias' missing is a good start though.. and you could install PHP 5.6, or you could jsut install phpsysinfo from the Git repo16:52
LinuxNovice_Will I have to reinstall after the expiry of the said period if I install 16.10 now?16:52
MadPsyupgrade not reinstall16:52
BlackVenomThe latest verion isn't in the ubuntu repo16:53
LinuxNovice_ok. It means I can upgrade to whichever new version released. right?16:53
BlackVenomversion16:53
MadPsynope.. you'd get it from git16:53
MadPsyLinuxNovice_, yes16:54
BlackVenomMadPsy, this is getting complicated16:54
BlackVenomlol16:54
MadPsygood way to learn not to depend on packages though :)16:54
LinuxNovice_ok. I'll install 16.10, then..16:55
BlackVenomit certainly is16:55
BlackVenomWanna teach me :P16:55
MadPsyonly if your connection to Google is broken16:55
BlackVenomhaha16:56
LinuxNovice_is 16.10 significantly better than 16.04?16:56
LinuxNovice_helloooo....16:56
enes_i cant see a difference between them16:57
OerHeksLinuxNovice_, you keep reasking, 16.10 with a newer kernel gives better support for newer hardware, that is all16:57
OerHeksnewer hardware as in hardware less than 12 months old16:58
LinuxNovice_ok. what about old laptops. can I install Lubuntu 16.10 on my old laptop?16:58
MadPsytry it and see, probably.16:58
OerHeksLinuxNovice_, go try it?16:59
LinuxNovice_ok.16:59
lalbantuuuhi16:59
LinuxNovice_can I downgrade from 16.10 to 16.04 later?16:59
lalbantuuuwhat must i do in ubuntu 16.10 to ensure my SSD will be healthy and will work fine?16:59
MadPsylalbantuuu, nothing16:59
OerHekslalbantuuu, nothing, just have fun17:00
OerHeksLinuxNovice_, nope.17:00
lalbantuuui read that it only takes care of intel/samsung ssd by default17:00
lalbantuuuthat for others it's needed to do something17:01
OerHekslalbantuuu, wrong info17:01
BlackVenomMadPsy, I've cloned the git repository and now have a phpsysinfo17:01
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MadPsylalbantuuu, you'll find there's a cron added, probably in /etc/cron.d with regards to TRIM17:01
LinuxNovice_ok. I'll go with Lubuntu 16.10 for my old laptop that was bought in 2005.17:01
lalbantuuuthanks guys17:01
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BlackVenomshall I now overwrite the current phpsysinfor directory with the new one from git?17:02
MadPsyhmmm, probably not wise17:02
MadPsyuse /var/www/html/phpsysinfo instead17:02
MadPsythen you won't need that 'Alias' statement I gave you earlier17:03
BlackVenomIt's working now MadPsy17:04
BlackVenomThanks dude17:04
MadPsynp17:04
MadPsyI would uninstall the phpsysinfo package with apt17:04
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BlackVenomdone although now phpsysinfo doesn't seem to show me the info i wanted lol17:06
MadPsyit doesn't have everything enabled by default, that said I've no idea what you were wanting to see17:06
BlackVenomthe HDD smart data17:07
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BlackVenomI am sure one of my HDD is failing17:07
MadPsyyou want smartctl for that17:07
MadPsyapt install smartmontools17:07
BlackVenomI've done that and got the report but it means nothing to me17:09
BlackVenomI was told phpsysinfo would display the info graphically for me17:09
MadPsyit probably can... have you checked the phpsysinfo config?17:10
MadPsyjust googled it and looks somewhat convoluted to get it working but seems it supports it17:12
MadPsytbh the output of smartctl isn't too bad.. maybe paste the output here and someone will help17:13
MadPsypaste it into a pastebin17:13
rexwin_by adding the following line will sudo will not ask for sudo password again. is this correct?17:14
rexwin_username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL17:14
MadPsyyes17:14
MadPsyyou can do it by group too17:15
BlackVenomThanks MadPsy I'll try and have a tinker first17:16
rexwin_but it is asking for the password again for sudo visudo17:19
rexwin_I need to run sudo without entering the password because it is run in cronjob17:19
MadPsyusername ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL17:23
vishal__What is systemd17:23
MadPsyvishal__,  really ?17:24
vishal__Yes17:24
MadPsyyou came to #ubuntu to ask what systemd is, like someone here will type a paragraph when you could just google it17:24
OerHeks!systemd17:25
ubottusystemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units17:25
OerHeksnice factoid17:25
vishal__In 16.10 systemd is not used17:25
vishal__So17:25
OerHeksvishal__, ?17:25
nicomachusvishal__: wrong. systemd is used in 16.1017:25
OerHeksget your facts right17:25
OerHeksopen terminal: ps -p 117:27
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rustyhi17:38
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muwrohi rusty17:39
tonytcan anyone point me in the right direction to get android tablet tethering working with ubuntu?17:47
tonytthe tablet is connected to a wifi hostspot already17:48
tonytand has an active internet connection17:48
schonehello17:50
schoneare there knonws prblems with the apt mirrors server? im getting the follownig trying to apt-get update17:50
zgrayhello17:50
schoneE: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/xenial/InRelease  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)17:50
schoneand its only 2 out of the 5 repos that are having this problem so i’m thinking this isnt a local networking problem17:51
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Guest80452Thanks17:52
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pelicanohow can i convert any video to dvd format to watch it on a dvd player?18:02
ChkDigitpelicano: Brasero should help you through it.18:04
dStructanyone here use Terminator?  I'm looking to hide or change the bright red bar and not having any luck with google18:05
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pelicanoChkDigit: does brasero is good for convert and burn dvd ???18:06
yao_ziyuanis there any tool to test my RAM?18:12
yao_ziyuani have 32GB RAM (8GB x 4), but one failed shortly after i bought the computer and got replaced.18:12
ChkDigitpelicano: Sorry you're right.  Been a while since I've done one.  DeVeDe, Bombono, and DVDStyler have tools that hide the complexities of avconv from you, and make menus.18:13
RichWyao_ziyuan, memtestx8618:16
RichWyao_ziyuan, http://www.memtest.org/18:17
yao_ziyuanRichW: my ubuntu repo has memtest86+  memtester18:17
yao_ziyuanRichW: which should i use?18:17
pelicanoChkDigit: devede was my favorite but in ubuntu 16 xenial give me a lot of error i dont know why18:18
RichWyao_ziyuan, Rapidly press shift right after turning on your PC you should get a menu. Choose memtest from the menu.18:19
yao_ziyuanRichW: is that the ubuntu boot menu or pc boot/pre-boot menu?18:20
RichWyao_ziyuan, its the ubuntu grub boot menu.18:21
yao_ziyuanRichW: o18:21
jgghi!! I am trying to install a Canon IRC3580ne, but its not working18:21
jggthe printer properties indicates status : filter failed18:21
jggi am using ubuntu 16, for a office server and shared printer18:22
jggi downloaded the ppd directly from canon website18:24
jggany workarround to enable the printer ??18:25
ioriajgg, you may need the official drivers from canon18:28
jggioria I am using the official drivers from canon18:29
ioriajgg,  i see it's an .rpm package, how did you installed it ? and you got any errors ?18:30
ioriajgg,  http://www.canon.co.uk/support/products/imagerunner/irc3580ne.aspx?type=drivers&language=EN&os=Linux%20(64-bit)18:31
jggi donwloaded from http://www.canon.es/support/products/imagerunner/irc3580ne.aspx?type=drivers&language=ES&os=Linux%20(64-bit)18:32
jggthe 3 files, the first of them contains the ppd18:32
jggthe rpm has doesn't anything18:33
jggi will try to download from the co.uk18:34
ioriajgg,   sorry, it's also available a .deb for ubu/deb ... at bottom18:35
ioriajgg,   CQue DEB Driver18:36
ioriajgg,   from the link i posted, i mean18:37
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awozniak"nibbles" and "lights out" show me an empty window full of black.  These used to work.  WTF?  Ubuntu 14.04.05 LTS, x86_64, NVIDIA18:40
tonyti accidently uninstalled network manager. is there a way to reinstall it with out an active internet connection?18:40
awozniaktonyt: is your network still up?  "ping 8.8.8.8"18:41
ioriatonyt, you can try from a livecd18:41
tonytawozniak no18:42
tonytioria now?18:42
tonytawozniak im using a win 7 vm tethered to a androi tablet18:42
awozniaktonyt: you can try to pring up the network manually.  If you're wired ethernet, it might be as easy as "ifup eth0"18:42
tonytthe host is ubuntu. no connection18:42
ioriatonyt,  in chroot, you mount your /dev/sdax /mnt,  bind mount the critcal fs, and then reinstall network-mnager18:42
tonytk18:42
ioriatonyt,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/422928/how-to-reinstall-network-manager-without-internet-access18:43
tonytifup: failed to open lockfile /run/network/ifstate.eth0: Permission denied18:43
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ioriatonyt,  or you can set up /etc/network/interface18:43
tonytk18:43
tonytim list sort of18:43
ioriatonyt,  with eth/cable it's easier18:44
jggioria I used dkpg with the deb from the website, this creates a /opt/cel/ folder with some files but I don't know what to do now...18:48
ioriajgg,   you first need to read the README or whatever instructions  are packed...18:49
tonytok i got it reinstalled. is there a way to put the applet back where it was?18:51
ioriajgg,   has been released on 12 October 2016 , so it should work18:51
elmoustachoHi everybody18:53
ioriatonyt,  nm-applet  , look if you have a nm-applet.desktop in /usr/share/applications18:54
TheCowboyI'm trying to remove libimobiledevice, and other relevant packages, but it wants to remove a ton of other packages (ubuntu-desktop, unity-control-center, etc.)18:55
TheCowboyIs there a non-hackish way to fix this?18:55
elmoustachoI would like to know why Ubuntu netboot images don't include all network drivers ? For example USB Ethernet controller are not included => usbnet.ko, r8152.ko ... are not included in "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net" directory of initrd. Anyone knowns why ? Thanks :)18:56
TheCowboyI'm removing it and others to build the libimobiledevice suite from source if that matters18:56
TheCowboyalso, would it be considered a bug? I don't see how ubuntu-desktop would depend upon ilibmobiledevice18:57
LargePixelsi'm using ubuntu on my macbook pro.  when i alt-tab, it stops after the first switch.18:57
LargePixelsi have to use the arrow keys to move between programs18:57
LargePixelsis this expected behavior?18:57
idokoexit18:57
idokoexit18:57
TheCowboyLargePixels: don't think so19:00
TheCowboyit doesn't switch to the next if you hold alt and hit tab again?19:00
jggioria, thanks for your help, there was a graphic interface ;)19:01
ioriajgg,  you're welcome19:02
ghoulwot?19:02
ghoulhow?19:02
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Blakes5I'm so confused19:08
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moloneyI have been banging my head against pam-auth-update for a while now and would appreciate any help. I want to fetch user/group info from LDAP on a server so I install 'libnss-ldap'. This automatically enables ldap authentication in PAM (this already seems like a bad idea) which I don't want, I just want the user/group info available. My first attempt to avoid this is just edit /etc/pam.d/common-auth to not use ldap.19:13
moloneyHowever, this manual edit will get silently reverted anytime the libnss-ldap package gets updated (or pam-auth-update gets run for some other reason).19:13
moloneyOk, so I research pam-auth-update which claims that "Debconf is the correct interface to use for management of PAM config files" (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PAMConfigFrameworkSpec).19:13
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moloneyOk so I use debconf-setselections to remove "ldap" from "libpam-runtime/profiles". I try running "dpkg-reconfigure libnss-ldap" and it completely wipes my manual debconf settings and re-enables ldap authentication!19:14
moloneyI can run "pam-auth-update" interactively and deselect "ldap" in the ncurses prompt, but I need to do the non-intercatively19:15
Josh__I'm having some problems with diffrent hosts acquiring locks with nfs.  The server keeps saying lockd: cannot monitor <hostname>  Any ideas?19:18
elmoustachomoloney: I think you have to modify configuration in "/usr/share/pam-configs/" and run "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive pam-auth-update"19:18
joacoHello, just installed eclipse on my ubuntu gnome 16.1019:29
joacoThe thing is it's installed but doesn't appear in my applications, I have to manually execute the software via terminal. How do I add it to the applications?19:29
shaytanhi guys. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04...relatively fresh installation. I've noticed, quite often, at initial boot of the system and login that my account gets icons that do not match the actual theme I've set. Logut - relogin fixes the problem. I would say this happens about 60% of times the very first time I login to my desktop. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.19:30
rexwin_I added username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL19:30
rexwin_and still it asks for the password for username19:31
rexwin_in sudo visudo19:31
LargePixelsTheCowboy: it does not.  alt tab does switch to the previous window, but stops after that.  i installed a configuraiton utily to find a way around it, but no luck19:37
dumle29eehm19:39
yatesi'm using ubuntu 16.04 LTS and i tried to install kde plasma as described here: http://www.tecmint.com/install-kde-plasma-5-in-linux/19:40
dumle29So a few weeks ago I managed to get virtualbox to run, but self signing the modules that come with virtualbox19:40
dumle29Now, for some reason, it's like it's forgotten that19:40
dumle29checking dmesg, I can see that my UEFI is loading the cert correctly, but checking keyctl list %:.system_keyring Gives me Can't find 'keyring:.system_keyring'19:41
yatesnow i'm getting:  kde-telepathy-minimal : Depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0) but it is not installed19:41
dumle29Nvm sudo worked19:41
yatesusing -f doesn't work either19:41
naccyates: you are using a PPA, you probably need to contact the PPA owner?19:41
yatesnacc: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports19:42
yatesso yeah, i guess i am19:43
yateslet's say i want to forget about kde/plasma and just revert back to plain unity/ubuntu 16.04. how to do?19:45
nacc!ppa-purge19:46
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:46
naccyates: --^19:46
yatesok, let me try that - thanks nacc19:46
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yatesnacc: ok, i can't install anything else until i resolve the unmet dependencies for kde-telepathy-minimal, it appears19:48
yatesapt seems hosered.19:48
OerHeksyates, ehm ...19:49
yatesis there a paste utility for ubuntu? so i can, e.g., "sudo apt-get blah | <something>-paste" to pastebin my problem?19:50
nacc!pastebinit | yates19:50
ubottuyates: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com19:50
yatescrap. pastebinit is not installed.19:51
yateshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23497063/19:53
tjingboemis there a command option to start a program but only allow to run one instance of that program?19:53
OerHeksyates, did you read this ?? http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-neon-users-urged-to-upgrade-their-systems-or-reinstall-the-linux-distro-510183.shtml19:53
OerHeksheard about this 3 hrs ago ...19:54
nacctjingboem: that would be highly command specific19:54
tjingboemi see19:54
yatesOerHeks: no, i haven't heard.19:54
narinnhello brother, how to remove brug?19:55
yatesi pastebin'ed the failure of apt-get -f install above - any comments on how to fix this?19:55
naccyates: try to just remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ?19:56
yatesyou mean: apt-get remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ?19:56
naccyates: yeah19:56
naccyates: hrm, although it's not installed now; so you'd need to figure out what's pulling it in19:56
yateshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23497094/20:00
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yatesi'm confused what to do.20:01
yatesremove kde-telepathy-minimal?20:01
naccyates: try removing kde-telepathy-minimal20:01
yateshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23497103/20:02
XATRIXHi, please help me to run ubuntu on 32bit UEFI device. I tried to make a bootable USB flash disk, but after i restarted the system, i get simply grub> prompt, even without grub menu20:02
XATRIXhttps://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md20:02
yatesgot to go, thanks for the help20:02
XATRIXany idea ?20:04
EriC^^XATRIX: try typing "ls -l"20:05
XATRIXinvalid file name `-l'.20:07
EriC^^ls20:08
EriC^^try configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg20:08
XATRIXhd(0) (hd0,gpt1) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) ...20:09
XATRIXYeap, i have the menu20:09
EriC^^ok20:09
EriC^^let the magic begin20:09
XATRIXSeems like it's running. Let's see20:10
XATRIXI'm trying to run it on Prestigio Visconte V20:10
XATRIXStarted to hate Win10, after 6 hours of use..20:10
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XATRIXAny idea is it possible to use Ubuntu on Intel Atom Z36xxx/Z37xxx  ?20:25
XATRIXI have tons of func. unavailable20:25
XATRIXTouchscreen, sensors etc...20:25
tgm4883Those seem like unrelated statements20:26
XATRIXsorry ?20:27
tgm4883XATRIX: you asked if it's possible to use Ubuntu on an ATOM Z36/Z37. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, it's an x86/x86_64 architecture20:28
tgm4883XATRIX: That shouldn't have any bearing on touchscreen, sensors, etc20:28
XATRIXtgm4883, i mean, i have 50% of my hardware unusable20:30
tgm4883XATRIX: ok, I get that20:31
XATRIXI'm  trying to run it on x86_64 tablet20:31
tgm4883XATRIX: right, but your issue is the touchscreen, sensors, etc, not the processor. So you should start with mentioning what those devices are20:33
yourname4Anyone know a good Plug'n Play USB Wifi Adapter for 16.04?20:36
yourname4Been having issues with older hardware20:36
ioriayourname4, NETgear wg111v3 never gave me troubles20:37
TheCowboyyourname4: I remember seeing a few lists for ones that work with Kali, they might be of help20:38
TheCowboyusually in the context of wireshark20:39
yourname4Thanks TheCowboy ioria20:41
ioriayourname4  yrwlcm20:42
fr0zn_hi20:48
XATRIXtgm4883, any idea how can i find out what devices they are ?20:48
XATRIXlspci, shows very tiny info20:49
yourname4hey fr0zn_20:49
fr0zn_just trying znc bouncer20:49
fr0zn_so cool20:49
OerHeksXATRIX, is this a 32 bit uefi machine?20:50
scottplyr777hi room20:54
XATRIXOerHeks, yeap. only 32bit UEFI i can load on20:54
yourname4hey scottplyr77720:54
OerHekstold you hours ago that 32 bit uefi is a hack, and you might not get all hardware to work :-(20:54
scottplyr777im having problems with guitarix no sound but i have sound with everything else20:55
s7urmiHello, anyone any idea why touchegg accepts 4-finger drags but not 3-finger drags?(Kaby Lake XPS13 btw)20:55
scottplyr777if anyone knows that program and can help me i'd appreciate it20:56
XATRIXOerHeks, wait a bit. I thought UEFI needs to boot the kernel, and after it the hardware is driven by the kernel20:56
XATRIXHow can bootloader influence on hardware after the system boot20:57
OerHeksXATRIX, just saying, seen lots of people in here with this 32 bit uefi issue20:57
OerHekssue you rvendor for 64 bit uefi20:57
tgm4883Well that doesn't seem helpful...20:57
XATRIXand what's the way out ?20:59
yourname4 /exit21:00
OerHekstgm4883, i know, someone has to say it.21:00
Jordan_UXATRIX: What problem are you having?21:00
tgm4883OerHeks: common misconception. Nobody actually has to say things that are unhelpful21:01
XATRIXJordan_U, em... I have prestigio visconte tablet. Which has  ATOM Z36/Z37 onboard21:01
XATRIXAs for now, i see incorrect touchscreen position designation, no battery status, no wireless as long as i see21:02
Jordan_UXATRIX: Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu? How did you install Ubuntu?21:07
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s7urmiAnyone any idea why touchegg accepts 4-finger drags but not 3-finger drags?21:25
blitzcreepis there a linux way to save your settings and grub stuff and put them back after installing a newer version of a distro?21:26
blitzcreepat least the grub settings ...or burg settings with themes aso21:27
est31I keep getting occasional flickers21:27
est31of the screen21:28
est31and often its connected to when I do something with the keyboard21:28
est31I know it sounds strange but how can I debug this?21:28
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stimpooboontoo21:34
stimpthere are little ubuntus, doing little ubuntu things here! :321:41
stimpsmol ones!21:41
stimp:3333321:41
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hheeguys, anyone is using vifm? console file manager21:58
akikhhee: no, but mc21:59
akikseems to be quite similar21:59
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jo-do you guys know how to look up channels22:11
jo-?22:11
genii!alis | jo-22:11
ubottujo-: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http22:11
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jo-ok thank you22:11
arandommudkipHello22:15
arandommudkipAnybody here?22:15
arandommudkipI could use some help, if possible22:16
OerHekshi arand<tab>22:17
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metallikohello22:19
metallikosomeone knows how to install banshee with hidpi support in ubuntu22:19
metalliko?22:19
metallikois available in mint22:20
krytarikmetalliko: It's the same as in Mint.22:25
metallikonope22:25
OerHeksmetalliko, hidpi support should be systemwide, not just one app. ubuntu has scaling feature http://askubuntu.com/questions/671238/ubuntu-mate-desktop-scaling-for-4k-displays22:26
ChetManlyremember when  this channel used to scroll so fast you could barely keep up22:26
Guy1524hey guys, in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a haswell integrated GPU, in glxinfo, it says version 3.3 of openGL is installed, if I were able to update mesa to 12 or 13, would openGL 4.5 be accessible?22:26
metallikoI installed banshee on ubuntu from the repos and hasn't hidpi support22:26
Guy1524Intel HD 4600 graphics to be specific btw22:26
metallikoscalling factor is alredy on 2 OerHeks22:28
metallikobut app's without hidpi support are unusable small22:28
metallikois a 13 inch 4k display22:29
OerHeksmetalliko, next step could be unity-tweak-tool to mess around with font sizes22:29
OerHeksjust wondering what mint does extra..22:29
metallikoit has hidpi out of the box22:29
OerHeksoh,  GTK3 HiDPI theme22:30
metallikoand that can be accomplished in ubuntu?22:30
golfsailorIf I try to install ubuntu it don't find my windows boot and partition22:30
OerHeksmetalliko, i am reading this > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=226322  which explains that apps should be build for hidpi, not all mint stuff works great with hidpi22:31
metallikobut banshee has hidpi support in mint22:32
ikoniadoes it come from the ubuntu repo ?22:32
ikoniaor a different repo22:32
metallikoyea to work properly the application has to support hidpi22:32
metallikoikonia, ubuntu repo22:32
metallikoaaa22:32
ikoniametalliko: then its the same app with the same build options and dependencies22:32
metallikodo you mean in mint?22:33
ikoniaI mean in both22:33
ikoniadoes mint pull it from the ubuntu repos, or does mint pull it from a different repo22:33
metallikoi'm assuming not since the banshee that i installed from the repos hasn't22:33
ikoniadon't assume22:33
ikoniacheck22:33
golfsailorIf I try to install ubuntu it don't find my windows boot and partition, any idea ? Windows 10 / Ubuntu 16. 32 bit Intel chipset. Any idea / Help ?22:34
nicomachusgolfsailor: are you installing Ubuntu as Legacy or UEFI?22:35
golfsailorUEFI22:35
nicomachusI don't know much about the difference, but that's usually the issue.22:35
ikoniacommon issues are things like disk encyption, raid etc22:35
golfsailorok, maybe possible to repair the windows boot later ?22:35
ikonia"why can't grub probe and find the windows boot loader"22:35
ikoniathats the question you need to work through22:36
golfsailorthanks22:37
alibhello everyone, apologies, i'm a newbie here.  i have a new workstation with no OS installed, its an Asus x99 deluxe motherboard.  I created a bootable USB stick with Ubuntu 16.10 desktop version.  When the computer would boot up, it would enter the UEFI BIOS Utility.  After going through the Advanced Settings, I saw my USB drive listed in the boot drive options, so I selected it.22:38
alibThe UEFI utility just went to a black screen with a single cursor at the top left, then back to the UEFI utility.  It did this a bunch of times, so I tried changing some UEFI settings by reading online, one of the things I changed was disabling CSM mode.22:39
ikoniasounds like you need to setup your motherboard properly, worth testing the usb media in another computer too22:39
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alibNow, I get to a screen "American Megatrends" listing my USB device, says the "VGA card not supported by UEFI driver", and says to re-enter BIOS setup hit F1, to enter the OS, F2.  Hitting F1 and F2 does _nothing_22:40
ikoniaalib: this is all hardware problems you need to work through22:41
ikoniaalib: this is not an ubuntu issue22:41
alibok, thank you @ikonia.  are there any specific UEFI/BIOS settings i should be aware of when installing Ubuntu?22:41
ikonianope22:41
alibok, thanks again22:42
krad_does anyone use a lenova?22:42
TOROSAhi22:46
Bray90820Do the daily builds of Zesty have an updated kernel or does it use the same one as 16.10?22:46
tgm4883krad_: lenova? is that different than a lenovo?22:46
ChetManlywhy are people askling about lenovo so much on irc today?22:46
tgm4883ChetManly: cause they are often pushed as having good linux support?22:47
geniiAlso Lenovo is offering 10% off this week on Carbons22:48
ran_hi. do you know about a network problem, so websites suddenly not loading until reconnecting the network connection?22:50
xxxxwait22:50
xxxxwhat is this, i wupposed to download something for twitter22:51
xxxxs*22:51
OerHeksxxxx irc has no 140 char limit22:52
MarcoPis there a way to uninstall completely an application that I manually uninstalled because synaptic package manager could not uninstall by way of removing it from the package list and deleting some files..22:52
MarcoPI am still seeing the name in searching and application lists22:52
naccMarcoP: what do you mean by 'manually installed' ?22:52
MarcoPwell I removed the name from the package list cause I was getting an error22:53
MarcoPand I searched for some files and deleted some of those...22:53
ikoniahow did you install it22:53
ikoniahow did you remove it22:53
xanguaMarcoP: that's not the way22:53
MarcoPso what is the way?22:53
ikoniahow did you install it22:53
ikoniahow did you remove it22:53
MarcoPsynaptic package manager would not uninstall it22:53
ikoniayou said that22:54
ikoniahow did you install it22:54
ikoniahow did you remove it22:54
MarcoPikonia, i just described how i tried to remove it22:54
ikoniahow did you install it22:54
ikoniahow did you remove it22:54
xxxxok, so to be clear is for ubuntu purposes??22:54
ikoniayou've not answered either of those two questions22:54
MarcoPare you trolling?22:54
OerHeksMarcoP, maybe tell us what application ?22:54
tgm4883MarcoP: how did you originally install it?22:54
ikoniaxxxx: ubuntu support22:54
MarcoPfrudo is the application22:54
xxxxthnks ikonia22:54
ikonia!guidelines | xxxx22:55
ubottuxxxx: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines22:55
ikoniaxxxx: have a read of that link from ubottu22:55
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MarcoPi installed one way with wgedit or whatever the name is and dpgk command22:55
tgm4883MarcoP: did you follow some guide to install?22:55
MarcoPhang on looking for link22:55
ran_hi. do you know about a network problem, so websites suddenly not loading until reconnecting the network connection?22:56
ikoniaran_: no22:56
MarcoPone way I tried was this https://www.maketecheasier.com/fruho-vpn-tool-linux/22:56
MarcoPso how do I completely get rid of it since we got the installation procedure out of the way :)22:58
ikoniaMarcoP: so you need to use dpkg to remove the package22:58
tgm4883MarcoP: what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep fruho'22:58
MarcoPhang on let me try22:58
MarcoPno output22:59
ran_in 16.04 there was a network bug that made all kinds of problems, maybe this bug is still in 16.1022:59
MarcoPbut the icon still shows when I do a search with the button on the top left as well as certain application lists23:00
tgm4883MarcoP: you said "One way I tried...." Did you try multiple guides?23:00
PrutheusHello! I have a problem on my dell xps 13 9360. I have a little screen freeze every ~10 secs, on hdmi display via D3100 docking station, via usb-c-to-hdmi and on the laptop screen. Everytime it lags, I get an message in my journal: http://ix.io/1G79 what could raise this error? how could i fix it? (btw, maybe it is useful to know, that when the docking station is connected, my laptop screen is getting23:01
Prutheusdark/disabled after some little time, the brightness get zero'ed)23:01
MarcoPtgm4883, I also tried the .deb file https://fruho.com/download23:02
MarcoPnone of them installed correctly for some reason23:02
tgm4883MarcoP: ok, anything else?23:02
MarcoPI did not try any other ways23:03
poco_so I have a USB-Ethernet adapter and while it's showing under ifconfig "enx..." my network settings says that the cable is unplugged. Anyone know the commands to see if I can use it for my default network connection?23:03
MarcoPhow do i remove it completely?23:04
ikoniait's gone if you removed the package23:05
MarcoPi still the icon on a search does that matter?23:05
MarcoPis there a place where the icons are located?23:05
tgm4883MarcoP: do you have a /usr/share/applications/fruho.desktop file?23:06
MarcoPi just found it23:06
MarcoPlol23:06
MarcoPI thought I had searched for it before23:06
OerHekswith this command you can see where all the files go and are named > dpkg-deb -c fruho_0.0.23_amd64.deb23:07
tgm4883it bothers me that they are packaging files for install into /usr/local23:07
ikoniait just looks like a pile of mess23:09
ikoniaread the webpage, it's not even put together well23:09
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brokenWindowPrinGood Day, I just found a bug in 2 packages of Ubuntu23:14
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brokenWindowPrindb-util includes a symlink /usr/bin/db_sql which is supposed to link to /usr/bin/db5-3_sql  from db5.3-util but dpkg -L shows that db5.3-util is not containing db5.3_sql23:15
nacc!bug | brokenWindowPrin23:15
ubottubrokenWindowPrin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:15
MobutilsQuestion, just did a dist-upgrade on a box. Afterwhich my nginx service has been masked and not starting.23:16
MobutilsThoughts on how to fix?23:16
brokenWindowPrinnacc, mate, lets be frank here, I am reporting this problem because i am toying around with ubuntu, I gave you all the information, I am not interested in creating yet another account, so you can save yourselfs your nosy attitude take the information or leave it23:17
naccbrokenWindowPrin: wow, I will leave it.23:17
`{^v^}how helpful and polite...23:18
SpeccyMansome folks need more laxatives in their lives lol23:19
tgm4883nacc: also, he is wrong. That isn't a bug23:21
mocxzwpheloo23:21
mocxzwphow are you guys23:21
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xxxxinstall a week ago ubuntu 16.04 lts, now 16.1, i have a (cheap)64bit acer but with 2RAM, so i fix some problems installing a 32-bit ubuntu, the thing is.. cannot turn off or reboot (Ubntu logo freezes) at least y force-it and i'm afraid in a wile just break..23:27
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xxxx..only when i force-it.. * (my mistake)23:29
rommelxxxx, uh it should work out of the box, but why not install 64bit23:30
xxxxdoesn't work 64bit well with less than 4RAM23:32
xxxxi read some days ago that 64bit are made for 4RAM or more, and 32 are for use less than 4RAM..23:33
rommelwell i instaled on a macbook-pro with 2gbs of rm and it was fine23:33
rommelbut i dont know.. was just wanting to get rid of os x23:34
xxxxand i'm get rid of win7 but i think the computer just don't have in off or maybe some driver, i have a week in linux, don't know how to chek that beside apt-get23:37
nacctgm4883: fair enough :)23:37
kevivHow can I reset a user password if I can only mount a separate installation's disk on another computer? Unfortunately it's a different architecture so I can't just chroot23:38
zanakynhey all; i'm trying to ssh with x forwarding from a raspberry pi to my main (ubuntu) desktop. some apps just crash flat out, but others open windows on the pi just fine. I'd really like to get Firefox and evince (pdf reader) to work. i'm pretty new to x-forwarding though23:42
zanakynis there a way to just launch a desktop instance through ssh and just have it forward to my pi?23:42
kevivzanakyn: It's been a while but I think what I used to do when I logged into my university's servers (I needed to use a few graphical applications so I found it easier than launching individual programs from a terminal)23:45
kevivsudo startx23:45
kevivsu zanakyn23:45
kevivssh -X ubuntu_host23:45
kevivgnome_session23:46
Ben64that's all kinds of wrong23:46
kevivYeah?23:46
kevivAgain, it's been a while23:46
kevivs/gnome_session/gnome-session23:46
zanakyni used ssh -X (connection details) gnome-session however it just sits at the terminal and launches nothing23:46
zanakynthis is from an x-session on the pi, not just a terminal with no display fyi23:47
Ben64zanakyn: why don't you run whatever you want on the pi23:47
zanakynslow browsing, slow pdf reading basically23:47
zanakyni can; just trying to take advantage of my other machine while i'm local to it23:47
Ben64x forwarding is slow23:48
zanakynx forwarding from my gaming pc is going to be a lot faster than a 1ghz armv7 w/ 1gb ram23:48
kevivWhy no use your gaming pc locally?23:48
zanakynits in use by my wife who has to do homework all night :P23:48
luketheduke1I could never get x11 forwarding to work very well for video games23:49
rexwin_I added this line sudo visudo file username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL and still get the prompt to enter my password .23:49
rexwin_this is not my requirement as I have to run the sudo command without entering the password23:49
Ben64zanakyn: i don't think you understand how x forwarding works23:49
luketheduke1I've heard ssh compression helps a lot with X11 forwarding, but I haven't tried it yet23:49
zanakynBen64 right, i did say im new to the whole thing after all23:49
zanakynbut im not trying to game. i just want to use firefox from the desktop and a pdf reader, if possible23:50
rexwin_http://askubuntu.com/questions/147241/execute-sudo-without-password23:50
luketheduke1zanakyn, that'll work23:50
Ben64it'd be faster to do it locally23:50
Ben64or use vnc23:50
luketheduke1or sshfs23:50
luketheduke1I love sshfs23:50
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zanakynsshfs mounts the filesystem locally from a remote source?23:50
luketheduke1yup23:50
zanakyneh, doesnt work for my use. im on the slow machine sshing to the fast one. i'd like to run an app on the remote machine and forward it to this raspberry pi23:51
Ben64vnc then23:51
luketheduke1or x11 forwarding23:51
luketheduke1VNC isn't much faster IME23:51
zanakynx11 forwarding is exactly what im trying to set up. i was wondering if i can just launch an actual desktop session over ssh -X, but it doesnt seem to work23:51
gunakkochello, how can I create a live iso from my current ubuntu with some extra packges installed and with files23:52
gunakkoc??23:52
zanakynadditionally, firefox fails to launch and so does evince23:52
luketheduke1zanakyn, you have to specify an app to open, eg ssh -X 192.168.0.2; gedit23:52
kevivluketheduke1: ";" ?23:52
Ben64again, you want vnc23:52
luketheduke1keviv, it's just to show that they are two different commands23:52
luketheduke1Open a command line with ssh -X 192.168.0.2, then enter gedit23:53
kevivluketheduke1: or just take out the ;23:53
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luketheduke1keviv, or just put in the ;23:53
zanakynoh derp. so when the terminal was waiting, it was asking me for the app to open?23:53
zanakynsec23:53
rexwin_how many times does sudo not require a password after entering it for the command?23:54
kevivluketheduke1: a literal semicolon would execute gedit after ssh exits? If you put it after the connection information it'll run that one program remotely23:54
luketheduke1rexwin_, I think it's more determined by time than by number of uses23:54
luketheduke1keviv, cool23:54
rexwin_how much time?23:54
zanakynoutput from firefox over ssh -X : ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 251323:54
zanakynExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child23:54
zanakynExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...23:54
Ben64zanakyn: vnc is what you want23:55
zanakynkeviv yeah i tried to run firefox like you were saying23:55
kevivBen64: what was wrong with what I did exactly? I can't remember exactly what I used to do, but it was something like that23:56
keviviirc they didn't have a vnc server23:56
zanakynim not sure on the pi support for vnc, but i'll take a look. i was hoping to use ssh -X with minimal setup, though23:56
luketheduke1rexwin_, http://lifehacker.com/make-sudo-sessions-last-longer-in-linux-122154577423:56
zanakyni can launch some x apps just fine, so i know its working. i just think im missing something with firefox and evince specifically23:56
Ben64zanakyn: vnc runs on everything23:56
kevivzanakyn: if you can install a vnc server on the target machine, it's pretty simple to use23:56
luketheduke1Apparently the default is 15 minutes rexwin_23:57
luketheduke1gentoo runs on anything too, but it's a PITA23:57
kevivHow can I reset a user password if I can only mount a separate installation's disk on another computer? Unfortunately it's a different architecture so I can't just chroot23:58
kevivs/a separate/the23:59
Ben64keviv: edit /etc/shadow23:59
kevivBen64: Yeah but how to generate the right hash?23:59

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