[00:00] <nacc> TomyWork: bah, i think it's because i built against a -proposed version; i just updated the ppa's deps, let's see what hpapens
[00:06] <rexwin_> I have mysql starting automatically after boot, but I want it not to start. ubuntu 14.04 what to do?
[00:06] <abbas> hi to all
[00:06] <skaag1> I have a problem booting on this system, Grub says no suitable video mode found, and it's booting in blind mode
[00:07] <skaag1> (and nothing seems to be happening after that)
[00:10] <Bashing-om> skaag1: Try booting with the nomodeset boot parameter . what now results ?
[00:10] <lordcirth> rexwin_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services#19324
[00:10] <abbas> i have a question on installing ubuntu. fedora was partitiond my hdd and now i want to install ubuntu.i want /home fedora partion as ubuntu home.if i select mount point and don't check format this partition all files will kept or not? [sorry 4 bad english]
[00:11] <lordcirth> abbas, Ubuntu may overwrite certain files.  I wouldn't recommend using a Fedora homedir for Ubuntu, anyway.  Config files will be missing
[00:13] <abbas> thanks lordcirth.
[00:23] <TomyWork> nacc at least i now know which command lines were used during the build :)
[00:26] <nacc> TomyWork: true :)
[00:27] <skaag> Bashing-om: I tried nomodeset instead of quite nosplash and it was the same
[00:27] <skaag> instead of "quiet nosplash"
[00:30] <lordcirth> Does anyone know a backup utility that has a GUI for telling you it's working, etc, but can also be easily managed by editing a .conf file?
[00:34] <Bashing-om> skaag: Next step down to try and boot . boot from grub . Is this a EFI machine ?
[00:37] <skaag1> It is an EFI machine, I do boot from the USB stick and get to the grub menu, but that's all I can do
[00:38] <Bashing-om> skaag: Well, I have no experience with EFI . others will have to advise . Do you mean though that booting with the USB is intentional ?
[00:40] <skaag1> I have no other option… no cdrom or anything else on that machine
[00:40] <skaag1> It does have some Windows something from some company called Microsoft
[00:41] <skaag1> looks weird
[00:42] <ben24792> Hi I am an oldskool N00b, I havn't been on IRC in 15 years. :)
[00:43] <skaag1> ben24792: I've been on IRC non-stop for the last 25+ years… same underwear even.
[00:44] <ben24792> Well they do become a part of you.. (both IRC and underwear)
[00:44] <ben24792> I am glad there are still people in here.
[00:45] <lordcirth> I think this is a bit offtopic
[00:45] <Bashing-om> skaag: Booted up In that liveUSB, show the channel the output -in a pastebin - if terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . We see what we have to work with .
[00:46] <ben24792> true, who is having a linux problem? Perhaps I can help.
[00:46] <Bashing-om> s/if/of *
[00:47] <lordcirth> ben24792, don't worry, someone will ask soon enough
[00:47] <nacc> ben24792: that's not really how the channel works. If you want to help, wait for someone to come in and ask for help.
[00:48] <ben24792> ah, been a while. OK, I will see if anything pops up I can lend a hand with
[00:48] <ken8521> ben24792: you know anything about lxde by chance?
[00:49] <skaag1> Bashing-om: I am not getting to a shell - in Grub I press 'e' to edit the entry, I put 'nomodeset' instead of 'quiet nosplash' and it says "booting in blind mode". It's stuck there. I tried leaving it there for a while, but nothing happens.
[00:52] <Bashing-om> skaag1: Are we talking about booting up an actual install on the hard drive .. or trying to boot a USB ?
[00:52] <skaag1> the grub menu gives me both options, it's the "Ubuntu 16.04 live" image. I can either install ubuntu, or try it out without installing. Both behave the same.
[00:52] <freakyy> hm, i just contacted the ppl from support, hosting company, and they say i have to partion the hdds while running. is this possible?
[00:54] <ben24792> I think you can with gparted but do you only have one physical disk or several?
[00:55] <Bashing-om> skaag1: Reboot the liveISB, escape key to get the boot options scren, escape key again to accept the default language -> boot patameters screen . F6 key and choose 'nomodeset' . what results ?
[00:55] <TomyWork> nacc looks like it's just apt-get source $package && apt-get build-dep $package && cd "$package"-*/ && fakeroot debian/rules binary
[00:55] <skaag1> freakyy: as long as it's a 2nd drive or a 2nd partition, sure
[00:56] <skaag1> Bashing-om: I already tried the nomodeset
[00:57] <Bashing-om> skaag1: Did you verify the .iso file download ? did you verify the copy to USB ?
[00:57] <nacc> TomyWork: yes, that should work
[00:57] <skaag1> I'll try all of this again tomorrow with a different image, and a different usb stick
[00:57] <skaag1> maybe it's damaged
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | skaag1
[00:58] <ben24792> quit
[00:58] <ben24792> lol
[00:59] <TomyWork> nacc from the logs i'm projecting that i'm not nearly done, so i guess i'll go home now :)
[01:03] <Bashing-om> 9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~
[01:11] <freakyy> skaag1: with what tool should i partition? and if i wanna replace /var with one of the partitions how do i do that? i mean ... do  i have to cp -R /var ./varbackup and then mount the hdd partition to /var and then move stuff in again?
[01:12] <David_FC> Ey guys, I am kind of confuse with APT. Has any sense use Aptitude as a command line? in this case is not the same as if I were using apt?.
[01:12] <David_FC> Thanks.
[01:14] <krytarik> !aptitude | David_FC
[01:18] <David_FC> Hi ubottu , thanks. So is not advisable use aptitude (neither front end or command line)?. Use apt is better?
[01:25] <Bashing-om> David_FC: Use the tools that work best for you . aptitude and apt are both front ends to the package management system .
[01:27] <David_FC> thanks Bashing-om . Last question. Does not make conflicts use apt as command line but synaptic as interface sometimes?
[01:28] <Bashing-om> David_FC: Nope, no conflicts so long as only one is active at any given time . http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=104157 <- tutorial on package management ; https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude .
[01:30] <David_FC> Bashing-om, ubottu krytarik thank you so much for your orientation. I really appreciate it.
[01:31] <Bashing-om> David_FC: :) There will come a time that you "pass it on " .
[01:39] <john1231234> hello, i cant send files when i use xchat on ubuntu but i can on win, why this happens?
[01:40] <john1231234> does ubuntu uses any firewall or something?
[01:42] <peyam> hi
[01:43] <peyam> I get this erro message while entering a PPA https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23493434/
[01:44] <workisfun> hi guys, i accidentally disabled my touchpad (ubuntu 16.04), i tried the steps here http://askubuntu.com/questions/159397/how-to-enable-touchpad with no luck
[01:45] <gwahyyr> I'm new to Ubuntu, so I cannot help, but maybe you can check a way to reload touchpad following your PC type
[01:45] <workisfun> how do you do that
[01:45] <gwahyyr> like typing your PC type into a browser search and how to load touchpad
[01:46] <gwahyyr> write the type of your computer into google and add something like "how to load touchpad"
[01:46] <Bashing-om> peyam: Which PPA and how are you attempting to access ?
[01:47] <squinty> john1231234,  fwiw, xchat is no longer being developed. recommend these days is it's replacement hexchat (in the repo's) don't know anything about it's file transfering capabilities though
[01:47] <ben24792> hello linux gurus, I am a new ubuntu user. I have a cannon all in one. I am switching from windows to linux as my main working envions. I need to get the printer and scanner installed on ubuntu 14.04 if that works I will need to do it again on 16.04 um any ideas?
[01:47] <john1231234> i also tried hexchat
[01:48] <workisfun> nvm i alt tabbed back into the touchpad settings, tabbed until the switch was selected and pressed space to reenable it gwahyyr
[01:48] <gwahyyr> so it works now?
[01:48] <john1231234> squinty, same happens
[01:48] <john1231234> squinty, it has something to do with firewall
[01:49] <peyam> Bashing-om, add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[01:49] <Matt_1_fish> Hello
[01:50] <Matt_1_fish> I need help! I know nothing about ubuntu
[01:51] <squinty> !book
[01:51] <fn2> Matt_1_fish, just ask the question and someone will help you if they have the time.
[01:51] <squinty> !manual
[01:52] <Matt_1_fish> I am a window user from way back and a friend gave me this lap top for my grand daughter. I wanted to use netflix on here for her.
[01:52] <Matt_1_fish> How do i do that
[01:54] <Bashing-om> peyam: Do not know, should be good : http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu .
[01:54] <Matt_1_fish> I have the manual now. Thank you
[01:55] <wedgie> Matt_1_fish: chrome should be able to display netflix. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html click that link and follow the instructions to install
[01:55] <ben24792> matt: I too am a windows user too, since the DOS days. Now I am switching to linux. I do know how to turn a laptop into a linux box you can use for netflix
[01:56] <Matt_1_fish> ok, glad i am not alone
[01:56] <ben24792> matt: have you installed ubuntu on the laptop?
[01:56] <Matt_1_fish> yes
[01:56] <ben24792> matt: which version?
[01:56] <Matt_1_fish> 16.4
[01:57] <ben24792> matt: is it running well for you on that HW?
[01:58] <Matt_1_fish> Yes everything is working but i am not skilled with programing
[01:58] <Matt_1_fish> and i was told this is a hard system
[01:59] <Matt_1_fish> I fell like an idiot
[01:59] <Matt_1_fish> feel
[01:59] <ben24792> matt: no worries mate
[01:59] <dn> What does it mean
[01:59] <dn>  [ -n "${FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE}" ]
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Matt_1_fish: It is point and click , then it only gets as hard as you want it too .
[02:00] <squinty> it's a learning process....just the same process as back in the dos days
[02:00] <wedgie> Matt_1_fish: not hard at all. Click the link I sent you, click the Download button. That will download and install the Google Chrome browser. And with that you can log into netflix and watch.
[02:00] <Matt_1_fish> i was good with dos back in the day. lo
[02:00] <squinty> Matt_1_fish,  "day at a time" applies to linux too  :-)
[02:01] <dn>  [ -n "${FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE}" ] --- what does it mean ?
[02:01] <Matt_1_fish> ok All, thank you for the help i will be back on and let you all now how the link went
[02:01] <ben24792> matt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760085/how-do-you-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-16-04#760452
[02:02] <wedgie> dn: that is "true" (exit code 0) if the variable $FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE is not empty.
[02:02] <delinquentme> Hi all I want to make it so I can call $ avrdude in any  new terminal  and have it point to this instance of avrdude buried in my system.  How do?
[02:02] <delinquentme> I was thinking editing $PATH but that doesnt seem to work
[02:03] <ben24792> matt: ctrl-alt-t to open terminal. Which is like good ol CMD .. This is called bash. cut and paste the commands from the URL
[02:03] <pacovc> is there a command to completely remove a package?
[02:04] <dn> wedgie thx
[02:04] <wedgie> pacovc: apt-get purge <package>
[02:04] <pacovc> nice thanks
[02:05] <Bashing-om> pacovc: 'sudo apt purge <package> " no package manager will remove mess about in your own /home .
[02:06] <ben24792> matt: after you have installed the chrome browser program, click on the icon in the top left corner, this is called the ubuntu dash, (like the start menu in winblows) just type in chrome and then click on it to run.
[02:08] <ben24792> matt: you can also right click on the chrome icon once it is on the dock (or toolbar in winblows terms) and click "lock to launcher" which will keep the program stuck there for future access
[02:22] <root_> zzz
[02:24] <ben24792> matt: any joy?
[02:29] <ben24792> I know I can install a generic CUPS driver for my canon and that should work for printing, but I am wondering if I can get the ADF, Scanner, and duplex printing out of ubuntu. I am looking up the model number of the printer now
[02:33] <freakyy> hi all. i want to make a sw-raid1 ... what is the best tool to partition my hdds? in a terminal?
[02:33] <OerHeks> !raid
[02:34] <wedgie> is btrfs' mirroring stable/safe yet?
[02:34] <xyzone> nope
[02:34] <OerHeks> wedgie, some say it is, i would use zfs
[02:35] <OerHeks> !btrfs
[02:36] <lisa_> exit
[02:36] <wedgie> OerHeks: yeah, i've heard some horror stories but know several people who have been using it on their laptops for a few years now with no problems. Some say that for single drives and mirrors it's ok but the raid1-2 equivilents aren't so good
[02:36] <wedgie> oh well. Guess i'll keep waiting
[02:37] <xyzone> btrfs is stagnant
[02:38] <wedgie> i want so badly for it to be ready. All the good parts of zfs without the licensing headaches for linux AND the flexibility to add drives and change raid levels on the fly and such. But none of that is worthwhile if it eats your data
[02:38] <OerHeks> hard to tell, which user cases are safe, hw raid or just a jbod
[02:38] <freakyy> OerHeks, well that only gives help for on installation. i need while running - the ssds are already swraid1 an have the os now i put in 2 hdds - i need to partition those whats the best tool
[02:39] <OerHeks> for cli, parted i guess
[02:42] <ben24792> I use ZFS in a sw raidz1 on my freeBSD system, and it works very well. I have not tried sw raid on ubuntu
[02:44] <ben24792> my Canon MX870 series - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.10-pre2 was installed, I will do some more googling to see if I can find a useful scan util.
[02:51] <freakyy> OerHeks, ok thanks
[03:03] <MSD> http://pastebin.com/GkkDy5UE on ubuntu 14.04
[03:07] <thejon> evening all. I'm struggling with an rsyslog issue. Trying to get an app (nova-api) to push logs through rsyslog. Got it to it, but it's reporting it's app-name as '2017-11-17'. Any pointers as to where I might look to configure that?
[03:16] <vexati0n> hello -strage problem on  Ubuntu 16.10. I'm not sure it is Ubuntu's fault, but maybe someone has run into it before -- On the wifi network at my job, Ubuntu periodically loses the ability to resolve DNS names. It will be connected for 5-10 minutes, and then every program on the system just can't lookup anything. However, the command "nslookup" still works.
[03:38] <freakyy> hi all i have a problem. there were 2 hdds put into my server, which i partitioned before. but now i need to repartition them but they are mounted as swraid1 under names i cant unmount: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23493759/
[03:38] <freakyy> can someone help me? :)
[03:44] <freakyy> oh nm i needed to stop the raid array
[03:44] <freakyy> not unmount it
[03:44] <freakyy> ;D
[03:57] <Slyver> hi :)
[04:07] <ben24792> well setting up a printer and scanner on ubuntu is now something else I might be able to help others with. :)
[04:09] <ben24792> I didn't see anything from Matt on his issue. I hope he got it solved.
[04:09] <meteor545> good evening. i have just installed 16.04 64 bit on my toshiba satilite laptop. the wifi does not work. it did on windows. rfkill list shows hard block yes. the switch is in the on position. anyone  have some insite?
[04:10] <breezy_> why does my cursor suck in ubuntu
[04:10] <breezy_> it keeps disappearing and flashing
[04:11] <ben24792> Meteor: I know this is going to sound silly, but have you restarted the the system since you installed ubuntu?
[04:11] <ben24792> breezy: Is ubuntu installed on a VM?
[04:11] <meteor545> yes once after installing updates
[04:11] <freakyy> hi all. why cant i create a raid array here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23493860/
[04:12] <breezy_> ben24792: no it isnt
[04:12] <breezy_> for the most part its okay, but when i go to certain windows it just disappears
[04:12] <MarcoP> is there a particular reason ubuntu likes to be a pain when deleting files even in root?
[04:13] <breezy_> fixed it
[04:14] <ben24792> meteor: still no wifi? I did have wifi issues on a ubuntu 16.04 install and I restarted it and that solved the problem. Beyond that, I am afraid I can not help. Most of my ubuntu experience is with desktops
[04:14] <MarcoP> never mind I got it deleted
[04:16] <ben24792> breezy: It sounds like a display driver issue. have you tried installing additional drivers tab in the settings>software & updates.
[04:16] <meteor545> thanks this is my third laptop the other two where running mint with no problems now this one has this wifi issue. i think its a toshiba thing as the last one had the same wireless card
[04:17] <ben24792> breezy: sometimes it picks up display drivers that you can install.
[04:18] <ben24792> meteor: Sorry I couldn't help I wonder if ubuntu forums might have some scriptfoo for toshiba wifi
[04:19] <ben24792> I am off to bed, thanks for the help today guys.
[04:21] <meteor545> ill search the forums tomorrow, thanks
[04:23] <jo-> hello
[04:30] <tigerb> Sould i scrap the idea of getting the lenovo ideadpad 100s, because of the linux support (http://askubuntu.com/questions/815301/can-ubuntu-be-installed-on-an-ideapad-100s-atom-laptop)
[04:31] <tigerb> or has it been resolved with the atom now
[04:36] <MuffinMedic> Is tehre a way in screen to identify which window split I'm curently using?
[04:46] <jon5000> hello can anyone help me get the touchscreen working on 16.04
[04:50] <BazookaTooth> MuffinMedic: try using byobu. makes it easier to see the splits. i think on ubuntu it defaults to tmux but it can alo use screen.
[04:56] <cash> Hi Everyone
[04:56] <cash> Weird code after update about an ignored file.  Any suggestions?  cash@cash-MacBook:~$ sudo apt autoremove
[04:56] <cash> [sudo] password for cash:
[04:56] <cash> Reading package lists... Done
[04:56] <cash> Building dependency tree
[04:56] <cash> Reading state information... Done
[05:12] <Poppolino> can I get a bit of advice please? I'm going to remove windows from my pc and install ubuntu but I can't decide whether to use 16.04 or 16.10
[05:13] <Poppolino> (I'm pretty experienced with debian so I mostly know what I'm doing)
[05:13] <thingfish> when in doubt, go with what's current is my philosophy.
[05:13] <Poppolino> 16.04 is LTS though
[05:13] <thingfish> well yeah
[05:13] <Paul5> After upgrading to every point release for years, I stick with LTS unless specific reason not to
[05:14] <Poppolino> what made you change to doing that, Paul5?
[05:14] <Paul5> can expect a few gotchas that take some digging and hacking, not much and not bad, but cumulatively annoying
[05:17] <Poppolino> ok cheers for the advice
[05:17] <Poppolino> I think I'll go with 16.04... should be easy enough to upgrade if I change my mind anyway
[05:17] <Poppolino> easier than going backwards :P
[05:17] <Paul5> yep.
[05:26] <bwepngong> nickserv identify radicals8
[05:26] <Random832> better change it now
[05:26] <Random832> protip: you can set your nickserv password as the server password in most irc clients
[05:40] <freakyy> omg i now run an ubuntu server ^^
[05:40] <freakyy> what is better with ubuntu server than debian?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !server | freakyy,
[05:57] <Squarism2> how do i let a user run a program that listens to port 80?
[05:57] <Squarism2> im on 16.04
[06:03] <walrider> wc
[06:08] <darshika> hello
[06:12] <walrider> Drone`, :D
[06:39] <DataAdmin> I have a user that cannot start an application on port 80 on ubuntu, whereas i as root can do it
[06:39] <DataAdmin> 16.04
[06:40] <hateball> DataAdmin: Yes, that is by design
[06:40] <hateball> DataAdmin: Only root can use ports 1-1024
[06:40] <DataAdmin> oh ok.
[06:41] <DataAdmin> So web apps should be run as root then?
[06:42] <hateball> DataAdmin: Maybe if you tell us what you're actually trying to do you can get a suitable answer
[06:43] <DataAdmin> let a user start a webserver on port 80
[06:43] <hateball> by default something like apache runs as a restricted user, but the service itself is started by root
[06:43] <DataAdmin> ...and i dont want him to run apache
[06:43] <DataAdmin> he has his own webserver
[06:45] <DataAdmin> I know i could start apps on my ubuntu desktop 14.04
[06:46] <DataAdmin> ...on port 80 as non root
[06:48] <tgm4883> DataAdmin: no, I'm pretty sure you couldn't do that
[06:49] <tgm4883> not without some customization anyway
[06:49] <hateball> DataAdmin: Maybe if you modified the kernel to allow such a thing to happen
[06:49] <DataAdmin> you are right
[06:49] <DataAdmin> i was misstaken
[06:53] <epx998> Anyone performing unattended installs with dnsmasq, tftp, grub2?
[06:57] <c1pher> hi
[06:57] <epx998> hi
[07:15] <acosonic> how do I disable root login to mysql without password? On Ubuntu 16
[07:17] <tgm4883> acosonic: set a password for the root user?
[07:19] <acosonic> tgm4883 already tried that, does not work
[07:20] <acosonic> hm, done...
[07:20] <tgm4883> acosonic: hmm. That root login only works from the local box? not across the network right?
[07:21] <acosonic> this fixed it
[07:21] <acosonic> mysqladmin -u root -h localhost password ws8dr8as3
[07:22] <acosonic> followed by mysql restart
[08:04] <name> hello
[08:04] <name> How are you?
[08:04] <robo220> Hiya
[08:12] <rbwilkinson> unable to connect to python
[08:12] <rbwilkinson>  wrong irc
[08:12] <rbwilkinson> sorry
[08:13] <blue-cheese> hullo
[08:43] <crazycoder> hello
[08:43] <crazycoder> can i run android app under ubuntu somehow?
[08:44] <nikhil_> hi
[08:55] <Guest96704> So, I have a new IP in my area and they use http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/zm-tel/product-detailZKInmvDJOTrk/China-4G-Modem-Lte-450MHz-Ba... This modem does not support AC so I was thinking about getting http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-5032_Archer-MR200.html If I were the open the modem they gave me and take out the sim card ( if there is one) Would it work in the new router? This Chinese router just sucks an
[09:01] <backyardvoodoo> ubuntu mate for powerpc is a blessing! Not at all as slow as I expected on an iMac G4.
[09:09] <mtbraatz_> #wordpress
[09:18] <mmc> hi h
[09:18] <mmc> hi
[09:18] <mmc> anyone here now ?
[09:19] <Kingsy> is there an official ubuntu version which comes with openbox?
[09:19] <STOP_nwo> .
[09:20] <hatiac> Does someone have an idea, how I can block htop from opening every time I log in to my server (16.10) via SSH? Also if I open new window or pane in tmux, htop does pop up right away.
[09:22] <ikonia> htop should not open by default
[09:22] <ikonia> you have done something (put it in your profile for example) to make that happen
[09:22] <hatiac> I just installed from htop and it started to happen.
[09:22] <ikonia> unlikely
[09:23] <hatiac> I meant installed from apt.
[09:23] <alkisg> Maybe you already had that in your .profile, and it didn't launch because htop wasn't there, and it started launching once you installed it
[09:23] <mmc> why kvm dose not work on ubuntu 14.04  when  kalli is installed on that ?
[09:23] <ikonia> mmc: kali is an OS - you don't install an OS on an OS
[09:23] <ikonia> or do you mean when you run a kali VM guest
[09:24] <ikonia> hatiac: look at your shell profile
[09:24] <hatiac> I checked from my .profile, but there's nothing about htop
[09:24] <mmc> ikonia : i know  , i installed kali in kvm virtual machine
[09:24] <Zen> hatiac: what about the system level profile?
[09:25] <mmc> i have another problem
[09:25] <mmc> i do not know why my root space is full
[09:25] <ikonia> hatiac: .profile is not the file
[09:25] <ikonia> hatiac: .bash_profile and .bashrc
[09:25] <ikonia> mmc: look at what's eating your space
[09:25] <mmc> i looked
[09:25] <ikonia> mmc: ok - and what's eating your space ?
[09:25] <mmc> but couldnt understand
[09:26] <Zen> Clearly not hard enough
[09:26] <ikonia> just to be clear, you think you can run virtual machines - but you don't know how to manage / look at your file system locally ?
[09:26] <hatiac> ikonia: Also checked those, no htop found.
[09:26] <ikonia> hatiac: going to have to walk through the profiles and your start up routine for your shell then
[09:26] <geirha> PS4='+ $BASH_SOURCE:$LINENO:' bash -xlic ''
[09:26] <ikonia> hatiac: htop is just a binary it will not start by default
[09:26] <mmc> ikonia  : you are right but it is very weired
[09:26] <ikonia> mmc: pastebin the output of df -h please
[09:27] <geirha> should show where htop is started
[09:27] <ikonia> geirha: thats an nice idea, very nice
[09:27] <hatiac> ikonia: Yeah, that's why I don't understand why it's starting automatically after installing it for the first time.
[09:37] <glitchd> what sort of issues wouldi encounter with a 64 bit system installed with only 2 gigs ram?
[09:37] <hateball> glitchd: none
[09:39] <glitchd> hateball, well i just installed 64 bit xubuntu on my older hp desktop, and what ive noticed is that its very slow and laggy. im not sure if its just because i only have 2 gigs ram on the system or because im using a 64 bit os
[09:39] <glitchd> or
[09:39] <glitchd> if its because its pure xubuntu instead of my standard install of ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop added
[09:40] <glitchd> some say the 2 variations are basically the same but i find that when i have ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop it performs so much better.
[09:41] <STOP_nwo> Retired HEAD OF FBI Tells ALL "Illuminati, Satanism, Pedophile Rings"           ----------------> please listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU
[09:41] <hateball> glitchd: Are you maxing out your 2GB ram? "slow and laggy" is not very helpful
[09:41] <hateball> glitchd: is the CPU being maxed out by some process? Do you experience "lag" in the UI due to poor GPU?
[09:43] <glitchd> hateball, well for starters, when i try to update from terminal it hangs for up to 30 seconds before giving any feedback that its working. programs take a considerable amount of time to open/operate, and the overall feel of the system is very sluggish.
[09:44] <glitchd> hateball, i had 32 bit installed yesterday and it seemed to perform loads better, nothing really hung unless i opened alot of browsers or windows
[09:45] <glitchd> i was lead to believe that the pae kernel included by default in the 64 bit installs would perform as good as the 32 bit counterpart with the same amount of ram
[09:45] <glitchd> hateball, ^^
[09:46] <hateball> glitchd: what's the output of "free -m" ?
[09:46] <hateball> glitchd: Sounds to me like the slowness is from disk based activities
[09:47] <alkisg> glitchd: your observations sound unrelated to the 32/64 bit architecture. Check for other causes, like e.g. the 30 seconds timeout may suggest a failed dns lookup.
[09:47] <glitchd> i was lead to believe that the pae kernel included by default in the 64 bit installs would perform as good as the 32 bit counterpart with the same amount of ram
[09:47] <glitchd> oops..
[09:48] <glitchd> hateball, http://pastebin.com/wUv3Viaj
[09:49] <glitchd> hateball, im not on the system im speaking of, its next to me tho
[09:49] <hateball> I wonder why your system is swapping while you have 800mb free memory
[09:50] <hateball> If you have a slow HDD, I'd at least start by lowering vm.swappiness
[09:50] <alkisg> It might have swapped a while ago when he was using more memory
[09:51] <glitchd> hateball, swappiness is set like this cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[09:51] <glitchd> 10
[09:51] <glitchd> *set to this
[09:51] <hateball> alkisg: fair point
[09:53] <hateball> Anyhow, there is a slight memory overhead using 64bit compared to 32bit, and perhaps that causes you to swap more frequently
[09:53] <glitchd> hateball, alkisg are you suggesting that i changed the swap factor to higher than 10?
[09:53] <hateball> glitchd: Lower is "better" if you want to swap less
[09:53] <alkisg> glitchd: no, i suggest that you don't touch swappiness at all
[09:53] <glitchd> hateball, thats what i thought too
[09:53] <alkisg> glitchd: I also suggest that you find some lag that is reproducible, and at that point of the lag, check cpu, ram etc
[09:54] <glitchd> alkisg, so just unmount swap completely?
[09:54] <alkisg> No, leave the defaults
[09:54] <Kingsy> is there an official ubuntu version which comes with openbox?
[09:54] <ikonia> why would you unmount swap ?
[09:54] <ikonia> if its using swap it's because it needs it
[09:54] <ikonia> so removing it seems bad
[09:54] <glitchd> ikonia, sry i didnt meant unmount swap, i meant more like turn off swap
[09:55] <glitchd> alkisg, everything lags. everything.
[09:55] <alkisg> glitchd: the defaults are to have swap, and to have swappiness=60. Leave it to that.
[09:55] <kelex> why
[09:55] <ikonia> glitchd: why would you do that
[09:55] <glitchd> alkisg, ok ill change it back and see if there is a diff
[09:55] <Kingsy> or better question, if I wanted openbox what would be the best way of getting that with ubuntu and nothing else?
[09:55] <ikonia> glitchd: if it's using swap too much - its because it needs to swap
[09:55] <hateball> !minimal | Kingsy
[09:56] <alkisg> glitchd: so, when you login to your desktop environment, and open an xterm, and move it around, it lags?
[09:56] <kelex> need for what
[09:56] <Kingsy> thankyou
[09:59] <glitchd> alkisg, no, but if i open a brower, it lags to open, if i open more than 1 window it lags. like i said, it lags to do anything. im not expecting lightning performance, just really thinking it should be going faster than it is
[10:01] <alkisg> glitchd: if you open the browser with no other apps open, and with no tabs at all, (a) on i386, and (b) on amd64, you see a performance difference? You shouldn't. If you do, measure the time needed and file a bug report.
[10:01] <glitchd> alkisg, in that instance, no it doesnt lag to drag it around the screen, but if i have more than 1 open, yes it does lag
[10:03] <alkisg> glitchd: then it sounds like your ram is getting excausted. Login, run "top" in a terminal, then check if swap is used. It shouldn't. Then start openining the browser and tabs etc, and if you see the swap getting used, it's due to low ram.
[10:03] <glitchd> alkisg, i just changed swappiness back to the default of 60
[10:04] <ikonia> glitchd: what is the spec of your machien
[10:04] <glitchd> alkisg, ill open top right now and watch it for a minute
[10:04] <linocisco> hi all
[10:05] <linocisco> in Terminal commmand line, Ctrl +A make cursor go to the first letter of the line. what about going to last letter? which command?
[10:05] <linocisco> ctrl+E?
[10:11] <melleb> Hi all, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. After installing virtualbox my ubuntu doesn't recognize available resolutions, I *think* this might have something todo with virtualbox hooking into the kernel and some stuff being reconfigured, but I'm clueless how to go about getting my initial display mode list back. xrandr only shows my maximum available resollution (4k) and some low resolutions, but not the resolutions in between
[10:12] <melleb> Is there some command I can run to 'rescan' all the avialable resolutions? Instead of manually adding them all?
[10:13] <melleb> I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail
[10:13] <melleb> Googling only shows adding resolutions to xrandr by hand
[10:13] <alkisg> melleb: put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[10:14] <melleb> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/A1qpW6Tu
[10:16] <alkisg> melleb: were you using the nvidia module, or nouveau, before vbox?
[10:16] <melleb> nvidia
[10:16] <melleb> alkisg: nvidia
[10:17] <alkisg> melleb: contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:17] <melleb> alkisg: Tried purge + reinstall of nvidia-367 and nvidia-prime
[10:18] <melleb> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/bC9a4Lpn
[10:20] <glitchd> ikonia, sorry its taking forever to uploade the picture
[10:23] <glitchd> alkisg, im still trying to upkload the picture
[10:34] <glitchd> ikonia, im still trying to find something to compile all the specs for me because im not completely sure about what they are, but nothing is working for me
[10:38] <glitchd> welp this is proving to be fruitless. im just gonna reinstall a 32 bit distro and be done with it. thx for the help everyone, much appreciated.
[10:41] <Ben64> glitchd: unlikely to make an appreciable difference
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:42] <glitchd> Ben64, i had the same distro but the 32 bit varient install right before i put 64 bit on there, it did perform better. it didnt hang over everything
[10:42] <Ben64> could be in your head, could be unrelated to architecture
[10:43] <glitchd> true enough
[10:43] <glitchd> im sure its not all in my head lol
[10:43] <glitchd> for 1 updating was instant, whereas when i update with this install it just hangs at 0% for a good 30 seconds before anything happens
[10:44] <hattan> can anyone plz help me to install testdisk?
[10:44] <glitchd> Ben64, my other thought was to install ubuntu and the xubuntu desktop, as thats what ive always used
[10:44] <Ben64> hattan: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[10:44] <Ben64> glitchd: ubuntu will probably be slow on both architectures
[10:45] <barkbeetle> ##join machinelearning
[10:45] <barkbeetle> sry
[10:45] <glitchd> Ben64, i have it on the system im using now
[10:45] <glitchd> Ben64, its not slow
[10:45] <hattan> Ben64: its giving an error in last as "E: Unable to locate package testdisk
[10:45] <hattan> "
[10:45] <glitchd> Ben64, but there are considerable differences between the 2 systems
[10:45] <Ben64> with a limited amount of ram it will be
[10:45] <Ben64> or a limited gpu
[10:46] <Ben64> hattan: what version of ubuntu
[10:46] <hattan> Ben64:   16.04
[10:46] <Ben64> open the software center, go to software sources in the menu, and enable the universe repository
[10:46] <glitchd> Ben64, this is the gpu 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:47] <Ben64> yeah i wouldn't run unity on that
[10:47] <glitchd> lol i never run unity
[10:47] <glitchd> i dont like it
[10:47] <Ben64> ubuntu desktop is unity
[10:47] <glitchd> i always run xfce
[10:47] <glitchd> yes it is
[10:47] <glitchd> but
[10:48] <Ben64> so why say you install ubuntu and xubuntu desktop?
[10:48] <glitchd> ubuntu with xubuntu desktop installed is basically xfce
[10:48] <ikonia> why would you not use xubuntu ?
[10:48] <ikonia> it sounds like you're making problems
[10:48] <Ben64> indeed
[10:48] <glitchd> because like i said, ive always gotten better performace from that setup than just pure xubuntu
[10:48] <ikonia> that is just nonsense
[10:48] <glitchd> i know
[10:48] <glitchd> it makes no sense
[10:49] <glitchd> but im serious
[10:49] <ikonia> it's the same base OS - I think you are not in a position to judge things with that approach
[10:49] <glitchd> dead serious
[10:49] <ikonia> glitchd: I'm serious - no
[10:49] <glitchd> well its all a matter of opinion i guess
[10:49] <ikonia> not really
[10:50] <glitchd> im not gonna sit here and argue with you about it. ubuntu with xubuntu desktop performs better for me than straight xubuntu
[10:50] <glitchd> thats not gonna change just because you dont agree with me
[10:50] <Ben64> classic case of "feels faster"
[10:50] <glitchd> lol not really
[10:51] <ikonia> you're just crushing any credible information you give us
[10:52] <glitchd> and..?
[10:52] <ikonia> it makes it pretty hard to be able to work with you
[10:53] <glitchd> so because you dont agree with me, makes me hard to work with?
[10:53] <ikonia> no
[10:53] <ikonia> because I'm not able to trust your comments
[10:53] <glitchd> because i dont agree with you then?
[10:53] <ikonia> how did you measure your "better" performance
[10:53] <Ben64> humans make lousy stopwatches
[10:53] <glitchd> very true
[10:54] <glitchd> well i did not sit there with a stopwatch if thats what your getting at
[10:54] <ikonia> pointless to discuss
[10:54] <LinuxNovice> hi...
[10:54] <LinuxNovice> ikonia: hi..
[10:57] <stevenm> Installed 16.04 on my work's Dell optiplex 3020 (has onboard intel graphics) - works fine, even dual monitors.  But if I'm after 3D accelerated graphics am I better installing "Intel® Graphics for Linux*" via the "Intel® Graphics Update Tool for Linux* OS" tool available at 01.org?
[10:57] <stevenm> because I've noticed if I try and use something like VMware Workstation it complains 3D hardware accelerated graphics are not available
[10:58] <LinuxNovice> I'm new to Linux. Installed LXLE on my old laptop bought in 2005.
[10:58] <ikonia> stevenm: nope
[10:58] <ikonia> stevenm: you're more better to use the components shipped with ubuntu
[10:58] <LinuxNovice> Is it significantly different than Lubuntu?
[10:59] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: no
[10:59] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: it's just not integrated into the ubuntu packages/apps
[10:59] <LinuxNovice> can I install software packages from Ubuntu Software Centre into LXLE?
[10:59] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: why would you just not use lubuntu or the "lubuntu-desktop" package from ubuntu
[10:59] <ikonia> how did you install lxle ?
[10:59] <stevenm> wtfrigg is lxle - is that just a work of lxDe ?
[11:00] <stevenm> *fork
[11:00] <ikonia> oh dear, it appears to be a different distro now
[11:00] <ikonia> rather than just a desktop shipping package set
[11:00] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, downloaded an iso file from LXLE website
[11:00] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: we dont support non ubuntu distros here
[11:00] <stevenm> no it actually *is* LXDE - just with a confusing name :S
[11:01] <ikonia> stevenm: it's a re-spin
[11:01] <LinuxNovice> ikonia: It has got a lot of packages available and is quite fast.
[11:01] <glitchd> thanks everyone
[11:01] <LinuxNovice> ikonia: I liked Lubuntu, but it looked too simple.
[11:02] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: it's nothing to do with this channel - we don't support it here, sorry
[11:02] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: we only support ubuntu distros here
[11:02] <LinuxNovice> ikonia: ok. but, it says that it is based on Lubuntu.
[11:03] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: because it's based on lubuntu, it's not lubuntu though
[11:03] <stevenm> LinuxNovice, doesn't mean it *is* ubuntu - which is officially recognized... and would be in #lubuntu anyway
[11:03] <ikonia> #lubuntu will not support lxle
[11:03] <stevenm> ikonia, no i was just saying that even if it was lubuntu - you wouldn't use this chan to talk about lubuntu specific stuff :P
[11:04] <LinuxNovice> ikonia: ok. do you think Lubuntu is better than lxle?
[11:04] <LinuxNovice> since, I have a very old laptop, I need a very lightweight linux distro.
[11:05] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: lxle is basically a non-official release of lubuntu
[11:05] <ikonia> so again, I've no idea why you think one is simple, the other is not
[11:06] <stevenm> LinuxNovice, there has to be a cut off at some point though :P I mean I still have a machine from 1995 and I don't expect it to run a linux distro from today - however cut down.
[11:06] <LinuxNovice> ikonia: ok.
[11:07] <LinuxNovice> which linux distro you both suggest, then?
[11:08] <mario_> hi all, I have a problem. I had to analyze lot of files (1.5TB) stored into an external usb drive. after 4-5 hours my java program said that it cannot find the files... like the hdd gets unmounted... but when I check the hdd is reachable
[11:08] <LinuxNovice> I have an Acer Travelmate 2420, with 2gb RAM, 1.6 GHz Intel Celeron M processor, 40 gb hdd.
[11:08] <mario_> ideas?
[11:09] <LinuxNovice> I don't wanna throw away this old laptop.
[11:09] <stevenm> LinuxNovice, that's up to you - do you even have a preference on any of these things?  a) under the hood base of the OS (e.g. debian derived, fedora derived).... b) a preference in desktop environment?    i mean I'd start thinking about that first - narrow your choices down.
[11:10] <LinuxNovice> I want something, that runs fast with even this limited resources. I'm new to Linux. Don't know much about the technical aspects.
[11:10] <stevenm> i.e. if you were preferring LXDE more than any other DE... wanted it to be debian based... but didn't care about it being ubuntu derived (e.g. for the use of ubuntu PPA's and other ubuntu binary-compatible repositories) then you can just run debian 8 lxde
[11:11] <stevenm> often these respins of other things (especially the ones that mostly add cosmetic stuff) are here one day and gone the next
[11:12] <hateball> It's quite !ot, you could try asking in ##linux
[11:12] <backbox> Well hello
[11:12] <LinuxNovice> I want something that is stable, secure, well supported, with good number of packages available and also very lightweight.
[11:13] <stevenm> LinuxNovice, PM me if you like - because this is very offtopic
[11:14] <mikecmpbll> anyone know how i'd detect bandwidth throttling on a vps? i want monitor and detect if bandwidth on a webserver becomes a problem and requests are getting delayed
[11:15] <mikecmpbll> it's not a fully formed thought yet as i'm not really sure how the whole thing works, but in the past we've had speed issues and it's taken me a while to work out that it's a bandwidth issue, so i'd like to set up some monitoring.
[11:17] <derbie> Hello! Is there a way to remotely use ubuntu on windows desktop similar to teamviewer?
[11:17] <hateball> mikecmpbll: you're saying two things here, one is throttling and one is monitoring. do you want both, or one or the other?
[11:18] <hateball> mikecmpbll: never mind, my brain cant read post-lunch
[11:18] <derbie> Wish i could swap keyboard mouse and display between machines...
[11:18] <mikecmpbll> hateball : the throttling is out of my control
[11:18] <brunch875> I remember installing teamviewer in linux
[11:18] <mikecmpbll> hateball : hehe
[11:18] <brunch875> I'm pretty sure there's a client
[11:19] <derbie> I'm worried about performance
[11:19] <derbie> there'i won't get fast response
[11:19] <hateball> derbie: if you just want have a single mouse/keyboard control multiple machines there is synergy
[11:20] <hateball> derbie: if you want a full remote desktop, there is for instance xrdp or vnc
[11:20] <hateball> mikecmpbll: do you have unlimited data?
[11:21] <mikecmpbll> yep. our VPS will have 'maximum burst' of 40mbps or something, with a contention of 4:1 (guaranteed 10mbps).
[11:21] <aniketh_> Ping
[11:21] <enyc> Pong
[11:21] <aniketh_> I was trying youtube-dl got some error
[11:22] <aniketh_> can you help me out :P
[11:22] <derbie> how responsive is synergy?
[11:22] <enyc> aniketh_: maybe, as is always case.  instead make a decent problem report/quesiton with clear details and be patient.
[11:22] <mikecmpbll> hateball : it'd be great if something could warn us that we're hitting the max.
[11:23] <enyc> derbie:   VNC  can be good enough, depends
[11:23] <hateball> mikecmpbll: well I'm sure you could do that with nagios or something
[11:23] <mikecmpbll> (without us having to tell it what the max is? for easy deployment across servers with varying bandwidths ..)
[11:23] <enyc> derbie: also going for virtualizers  can help =)
[11:23] <hateball> mikecmpbll: well you'd need to know what the max is to know the alert threshold :)
[11:24] <mikecmpbll> hateball : yeah .. i guess that's inevitable
[11:24] <hateball> mikecmpbll: there are many tools but it all depends on the end goal
[11:24] <hateball> mikecmpbll: like you could use vnstat to log all of this, but there's no alerting built in
[11:24] <mikecmpbll> i wonder if monit can do it, as we already use that.
[11:25] <hateball> mikecmpbll: I havent used monit, but it seems reasonable it can
[11:26] <mikecmpbll> hateball : thanks! :)
[11:26] <hateball> mikecmpbll: are you not monitoring the bandwidth with it today?
[11:27] <hateball> looking at screenshots it seems to have such capabilities
[11:30] <mikecmpbll> hateball : nope, we're not
[11:30] <Shadowmm> my ubuntu software center crashes everytime i open it
[11:31] <Shadowmm> and this is a fresh install
[11:34] <gunakkoc> hello, anyone knows about remastersys or respin?
[11:36] <aniketh_> enyc:  https://paste.kde.org/py3bhgmtc
[11:36] <aniketh_> enyc:  Network issue. that's why this late error report
[11:37] <brunch875> If I install a random.deb I yoink from the internet, will apt update it?
[11:37] <enyc> brunch875: no, unless the package adds a PPA source or so  to point at repository
[11:38] <Shadowmm> my ubuntu software center crashes everytime i open it
[11:38] <Shadowmm> and this is a fresh install
[11:41] <brunch875> enyc: short and simple, thank you :)
[11:41] <hateball> Shadowmm: can you make sure you are fully updated by running "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in a terminal?
[11:43] <Shadowmm> hateball> had a few updates left. i will install them and see if it fixes the problem
[11:43] <Shadowmm> done
[11:43] <Shadowmm> installing the updates fixed it
[11:44] <Shadowmm> thank you hateball :)
[11:46] <hateball> Shadowmm: :)
[11:50] <helloNL> Hey, currently I have a Legacy FakeRAID running with Windows on it and Ubuntu Gnome, but after trying it out I am not sure if I like gnome as user interface as it is out of the box. I like a taskbar like Windows has. Can I just run another Ubuntu installation and just run it over the current Ubunty Gnome installation?
[11:51] <hateball> helloNL: you dont need to reinstall, you can just "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" if you want to install another DE. You can choose at logintime
[11:51] <hateball> helloNL: and if you want a panel like windows, then kubuntu-desktop with kde plasma or xfce or lxde could be viable options
[11:53] <OverCoder> ummm
[11:54] <OverCoder> Anybody knows of a nice screen capturing tool where I can press a button, capture an area, and it automatically uploads to some service like imgur and opens the image in the browser as well as allow me to delete the image later?
[11:54] <OverCoder> 😛
[11:54] <ikonia> hateball: just change the desktop
[11:54] <ikonia> hateball: sorry
[11:54] <ikonia> helloNL: just change the desktop on linux
[11:54] <ikonia> helloNL: you don't need another install
[11:54] <helloNL> hateball: I am currently googling for images of the OS but what do I need to google for the xfce version?
[11:54] <helloNL> Ah ok ikonia
[11:55] <helloNL> I just don't know how to get rid of the ubuntu gnome environment when changing to another :P
[11:55] <helloNL> Also the boot animation was gone for some reason, I just see a lot of [ OK ] Something
[11:55] <ikonia> helloNL: once you install a different desktop environmet (KDE/LXDE/Whatever) it will be presented as a session in your login
[11:57] <helloNL> sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop   if I run this will I have the xfce version?
[11:57] <hateball> Yes
[11:57] <helloNL> From the images I like that one :P
[11:57] <rommel> is there anyway to get ubuntu to use efi instead of csm on a macbook-pro
[12:00] <helloNL> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905408   http://i.imgur.com/bU92V.png this one looks nice too :P
[12:03] <reeed> hi all i just did a minimal ubuntu server install into a VirtualBox VM. ifconfig -a shows only device 'lo' and no 'eth' -- how do I enable eth? (VBox networking is setup as NAT)
[12:04] <geirha> you edit /etc/network/interfaces.  man interfaces  for documentation
[12:05] <rommel> reeed, make sure the driver for the device is loaded?
[12:05] <reeed> i don't even have a man command
[12:05] <reeed> how to make sure the device driver is loaded?
[12:06] <sb_9> http://pastebin.com/QYHjgWfq
[12:06] <rommel> well you have to know what driver is needed then lsmod and modprobe
[12:06] <reeed> ok
[12:12] <reeed> any hints what network driver can be used for a vbox guest?
[12:17] <rommel> reed http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
[12:18] <reeed> yep reading now
[12:18] <akik> reeed: you don't see any network adapter in the vbox guest ?
[12:18] <reeed> ifconfig -a only gives 'lo'
[12:18] <reeed> lspci shows an Ethernet controller: Intel Corportaion 82540EM blah blah
[12:19] <akik> reeed: what about sudo lshw -c network ?
[12:19] <reeed> i don't have the lshw command
[12:19] <reeed> it's a minimal ubuntu server install
[12:19] <reeed> could that be the very problem ?
[12:20] <akik> reeed: what about "lsmod | grep e1000" ?
[12:20] <ChetManly> Is anyone having a problem with 16.04 not seeing .vbox files in the VBOX manager?
[12:21] <reeed> nuthin. lsmod alone gives nothin
[12:21] <akik> reeed: e1000 kernel module supports vendor: 8086 ("Intel Corporation"), device: 100e ("82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller")
[12:21] <reeed> ok how do i load this driver?
[12:21] <ChetManly>  i can clearing see them on the hard drive
[12:21] <akik> reeed: try "sudo modprobe e1000"
[12:21] <reeed> module e1000 not found in directory /lib/modeules/blah blah
[12:22] <dandels> "lspci -v" tells what kernel module is loaded for the device. That's a lot easier than grepping
[12:22] <reeed> let me reconfig the VM using the 'virtio' device and restart
[12:23] <reeed> lspci -v: no mention of kernel device
[12:23] <reeed> Subsystem, Flags, Memory, I/O ports, Capabiltiies
[12:24] <akik> reeed: the kernel module e1000 is in the linux-image package
[12:24] <ChetManly> I wish people would stop making applications without the drop down box to view "all files" in the 'files of type' box
[12:25] <reeed> but i can't get the linux-image package without a network connexion !
[12:25] <reeed> anyway, rebooting the VM now using 'virtio' device
[12:25] <reeed> ok excellent. now lspci -v says kernel driver: virtio-pci
[12:25] <reeed> wooooo!
[12:25] <akik> reeed: you can copy files from the host to the guest
[12:26] <reeed> and my NIC is enp0s3 not eth0
[12:26] <reeed> wow
[12:26] <reeed> thanks all. now i can proceed.
[12:27] <reeed> oh no. pings anywhere don't pong.
[12:29] <dandels> reeed, what does "ip a" say in the enp0s3 section? ip a is like ifconfig except not deprecated
[12:29] <reeed> if only i could copy-paste.
[12:29] <reeed> it says the interface is UP 10.0.2.15/24
[12:29] <reeed> etc
[12:30] <dandels> reeed, "/query phrik ptpb" in irc for a handy command
[12:30] <reeed> but 'route' says default  is 10.0.2.2
[12:30] <dandels> That package is for Arch though, so I wouldn't try installing it
[12:30] <dandels> Oh right, you need network connection for that..
[12:30] <dandels> Disregard it.
[12:32] <dandels> reeed, do you have any network service enabled?
[12:33] <dandels> dhcpcd, NetworkManager..?
[12:33] <reeed> i doubt it. it's a minimal install
[12:33] <reeed> there's dhclient
[12:34] <reeed> dhclient was running earlier (don't know how it started). i killed it with dhclient -r, restarted, and nothing changed.
[12:34] <dandels> Anything in the logs?
[12:35] <dandels> I'm not familiar with dhclient, but I'm assuming it produces some sort of pseudo-English on what went wrong
[12:35] <reeed> it's silent, which presumably means OK ?
[12:36] <reeed>  /var/log/syslog says DHCPDISCOVER DHCPREQUEST DHCPOFFER etc finally bound to 10.0.2.15
[12:36] <reeed> so it works.
[12:36] <reeed> but my packets aren't getting out of the host... hmmm
[12:38] <dandels> reeed, might be an issue with how you configured the network adapter for the VM. I don't have much experience with that though.
[12:38] <reeed> you might be right.
[12:39] <reeed> i'll probably start all over later.
[12:39] <reeed> thx for the hints
[12:39] <dandels> Alright, good luck
[12:39] <reeed> learnt quite a few new linux commands ;)
[12:47] <C_Rhum68> brown
[12:53] <Davidjholt> Hello there, does anybody in here have a good knowledge of Raspbian?
[12:55] <RaspberryPiNoob> Hi guys, trying to configure proxy settings on a raspberry pi but I suck
[12:55] <RaspberryPiNoob> Does anybody have any idea what to do?
[12:56] <RaspberryPiNoob> HELLO!?!?!?!?!?
[12:56] <RaspberryPiNoob> help me :(
[12:56] <RaspberryPiNoob> looks like i never ever get succ]
[12:56] <capsul> hi
[12:56] <RaspberryPiNoob> hi capsul
[12:56] <capsul> yop RaspberryPiNoob
[12:56] <RaspberryPiNoob> do you have any idea about configuring a proxy in Raspbian?
[12:57] <capsul> Can i add files with my write DVD img. ???
[12:57] <capsul> no :/
[12:57] <RaspberryPiNoob> k bye
[12:59] <Kingsy> guys, I am trying to install ubuntu minimal on my lenovo thinkpad yoga 15 laptop, but its saying no network interfaces detected...
[12:59] <Kingsy> what would usually be the reason and resolution for this?
[13:02] <ioria> Kingsy, wifi i guess .... you should use a cable
[13:03] <Kingsy> ioria: but the wifi works on ubuntu 16.04
[13:03] <Kingsy> regular iso
[13:03] <hanish> hi my ubantu software centre is crashing after 2second while launching is there any fix for it?
[13:03] <ioria> Kingsy, regular yes, mini nope
[13:03] <Kingsy> ioria: yup.. so is there a way of getting it working on mini ?
[13:04] <hateball> hanish: is it freshly installed? run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to make sure everything is updated
[13:05] <ioria> Kingsy,  you mean install mini with wireless ?
[13:05] <Kingsy> ioria: yeah
[13:05] <dandels> Kingsy, when you say "it says no network interfaces detected", *what* gives you that error?
[13:05] <ioria> Kingsy,  not that i know ... after the install you can surely use wifi... but not when you install
[13:06] <Kingsy> dandels: the installer
[13:06] <eczane> hi
[13:06] <Kingsy> ioria: ah ok, i guess I can just complete the installation without internet? or is it required?
[13:06] <ioria> Kingsy,  nope, mini is a net-install ....
[13:07] <ioria> Kingsy,  you can go with ubuntu-server
[13:07] <ioria> Kingsy,  net-install  mean it download pkgs from web
[13:07] <ioria> *s
[13:09] <Kingsy> ioria: ubuntu server? but this is not a server... its a laptop
[13:09] <hanish> thanks hateball
[13:09] <ioria> Kingsy,  basically, it's the same  :þ
[13:10] <ioria> Kingsy, you need mini ... why ?
[13:10] <Kingsy> ioria: well I wanted a minimal ubuntu installation.. so I could install only what I needed
[13:10] <Kingsy> so for example openbox
[13:11] <Kingsy> however...  on second thoughts I might choose something else.
[13:11] <ioria> Kingsy,  ok.... or mini (with cable, then xorg then openbox) or ubuntu-server and then install a gui
[13:11] <Kingsy> ioria: this laptop is touch screen... which DE is best suited for that?
[13:11] <Kingsy> ioria: it doesnt have an ethernet port unfortunately
[13:12] <ioria> Kingsy,  oh.... so try server
[13:12] <ioria> Kingsy,  or lubuntu and then you'll fun removing lxde
[13:12] <Kingsy> I am starting to think because its touch gnome might be best?
[13:12] <ioria> *have
[13:13] <ioria> Kingsy,  no idea about touch gnome
[13:42] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i have x64 windows 10 tabled, and i want to install Ubuntu for tablets. Is there any version for Intel Atom arch ?
[13:44] <fabzor3> hey XATRIX go and download the 32 bit version to be safe
[13:44] <fabzor3> can you tell me what model atom you are running?
[13:44] <fabzor3> some atoms are 64 bit
[13:44] <XATRIX> prestigio visconte v tablet i currently have.
[13:44] <XATRIX> Yea, it's 64 bit atom seems like, but 2G of ram
[13:45] <fabzor3> well any normal 64 bit linux will run on it
[13:46] <fabzor3> theoretically, if the minboard and video card is supported
[13:46] <XATRIX> sure, but i saw there's tablet optimized version of
[13:46] <fabzor3> there is
[13:46] <XATRIX> is there any to download?
[13:46] <fabzor3> seems like they want to charge you money for it
[13:46] <fabzor3> yeah there is a way - give them all you money ;)
[13:46] <XATRIX> damn, i thought linux is for free :))))
[13:46] <ortsvorsteher> hello. i just bought an dell vostro with ubuntu 14.04 lts on it. I need to setup, but the setup process interupt by typing a location. is there any way to restart the setup process?
[13:46] <fabzor3> LINUX is
[13:47] <fabzor3> thats just the kernel though
[13:47] <fabzor3> but people pay for solutions
[13:47] <XATRIX> sure, support charges :)
[13:47] <fabzor3> wait
[13:47] <fabzor3> have you tried normal 64 bit ubuntu?
[13:48] <XATRIX> nope
[13:48] <fabzor3> please give it a shot
[13:48] <fabzor3> get yourself a usb
[13:48] <fabzor3> download an iso of 64 bit ubuntu
[13:49] <fabzor3> get rufus for windows to make a bootable usb
[13:49] <fabzor3> and give it a whirl
[13:49] <fabzor3> or if you prefer you can also use unetbooting to make a bootable usb - unetbootin also runs on linux
[13:50] <XATRIX> yea. sure, i did it before. i just wanted to understand, if i can download a tabled version for free
[13:50] <fabzor3> let me see
[13:51] <ortsvorsteher> hello. i just bought an dell vostro with ubuntu 14.04 lts on it. I need to setup, but the setup process interupt by typing a location. is there any way to restart the setup process?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !patience | ortsvorsteher,/
[13:51] <Roy> fabzor3, Universal USB Installer is a great tool as well. Never failed for me.
[13:52] <ortsvorsteher> !cookie|cfhowlett
[13:52] <fabzor3> cheers Roy
[13:52] <fabzor3> XATRIX: understand these things
[13:52] <fabzor3> the tablet version if for ARM
[13:52] <XATRIX> yea got it
[13:52] <fabzor3> ARM uses less battery ust is less powerful
[13:53] <fabzor3> and there are a lot less packages out there for ARM
[13:53] <fabzor3> ARM is a kind of processor architecture
[13:53] <fabzor3> you are fortunate enough to have a bangin 64 bit x86 processor
[13:53] <fabzor3> so you cant even run the arm os
[13:53] <fabzor3> let alone the arm packages
[13:54] <fabzor3> this is a good thing because there is WAY more packages out there for you and your intel atom cpu
[13:54] <fabzor3> if you REALLY want a tablet os then customse the hell out of your gnome interface and makedo with that
[13:55] <fabzor3> you will be able to run heaps of great software with your atom so get ubuntu x64
[13:56] <fabzor3> the main thing will be getting multi touch working with ubuntu
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> fabzor3: easy on the enter button please
[13:56] <fabzor3> and it may work out of the box, who know? give it a go, thats part of the fun... trying and seeing what happens
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> fabzor3: we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel if you like
[13:56] <fabzor3> ok sorry about that I will calm down
[13:56] <ortsvorsteher> i install it from new. have a good day
[14:09] <merch> hi
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> merch: welcome, what can we do for you?
[14:11] <xro> Hi, i have a laptop with ubuntu 16.04 installed. I would like to configure a screensaver slideshow but i cannot figure out where i should configure it
[14:13] <xro> anybody knows where i should set ip up ?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> xro: you can install xscreensaver
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> xro: then add it to startup items
[14:15] <xro> oh, was not installed :-(  ok i'll try it now
[14:15] <adqq> Hello.
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> xro: you might have to add a startup line like xsreensaver --nosplash or something
[14:16] <adqq> Im liking unity but i cant disable the 4 finger tap that opens dash. Is there a way?
[14:16] <adqq> Please help. Thanks.
[14:17] <xro> ok, than you
[14:20] <gmy> hello
[14:21] <adqq> Please... anyone? I would love to keep ubuntu as my main distro
[14:21] <cfhowlett> so keep it then, adqq
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> adqq: best way to get your issue solved is to re-ask once in a while so others can read
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> adqq: adding relevant info/details can be a real help to volunteers also
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !details | adqq
[14:23] <adqq> Using ubuntu 16.04. How can I disable the 4 finger tap on the touchpad that opens dash. Is there a way?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> adqq: can this wiki help you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[14:27] <adqq> lotuspsychje: No, read that already.
[14:27] <XATRIX> how can i find out which UEFI version used in ISO ? ubuntukylin-16.04.1-desktop-amd64
[14:28] <adqq> I was able to disable the 3 finger tap in ubuntu for switching windows... But i cant disable the 4 tap.
[14:28] <uddane> hey guys, does anyone know why today's update would only go through if I disabled 3rd party PPAs?
[14:30] <Roy> adqq, I found this in a quick search: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57586/how-can-i-disable-arbitrary-default-multitouch-gestures-in-unity
[14:31] <Roy> But it might be outdated info.
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !info touchegg | adqq also found this, perhaps usefull?
[14:35] <adqq> Roy: Yeah, saw that already but is that the only way? Only compiling?
[14:36] <adqq> lotuspsychje: Hey. Have you tried it?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> adqq: not myself, but it sounds usefull
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> adqq: perhaps your existing gestures will show on that app?
[14:38] <adqq> lotuspsychje: Im running live now but I cant install it
[14:39] <adqq> It says the package is not available
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !info touchegg xenial
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> adqq: i would recommend to install ubuntu 16.04 fully, with all updates connected to internet
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> adqq: here also a clean tutorial for how touchegg works: https://www.linux.com/learn/how-configure-touchscreen-linux
[14:43] <arandommudkip> hello
[14:45] <svg> new install 16.10 (advanced installer), network manager insists on not managing my ethernet interface; I removed the stanbza from /etc/network/interfaces ans confirmed managed=false, but still not works :(
[14:46] <svg> (also tried managed=true but doesnt work either)
[14:48] <adqq> Thanks. I installed Ubuntu before but I couldnt fix it.
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> adqq: make sure you upgrade to latest 16.04.1
[14:49] <adqq> lotuspsychje: Im using that iso.
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> adqq: kk
[14:50] <adqq> lotuspsychje: Maybe a more customizable Ubuntu version?
[14:50] <adqq> lotuspsychje: Xubuntu maybe?
[14:50] <adqq> lotuspsychje: What do you recommend?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> adqq: i think for tablet use, unity should do fine
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> adqq: of course you have the choise as user, to use what flavor you like
[14:52] -RadicalJihadist:#ubuntu- Allah akbar!
[14:53] <RadicalJihadist> Allah akbar!
[14:53] <RadicalJihadist> He has given us the right to shit our pants
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> !ops | RadicalJihadist
[14:54] <XATRIX> Guys, where can i get 32bit UEFI version of LTS ubuntu ?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: can you explain what you are trying to do?
[14:55] <OerHeks> XATRIX, not. 32 bit uefi is a hack, no guarantee all hardware will work
[14:55] <OerHeks> !uefi
[14:56] <OerHeks> XATRIX, if your CPU is 64 bit, sue your vendor for a 64 bit uefi.
[14:56] <enyc> XATRIX: seems (read the linked page above!!!!) that 23bit UEFI is not normally/directly implemented.
[15:15] <neuromute9> hey folks, sitll on 14.04, having trouble adding an ssh key to the agent... running `ssh-add ~/.ssh/mykey` and it flat out doesn't ask me for the passphrase (there is one)... what to do?
[15:23] <Ultra_DuckZ> hi, how can I install boost 1.60 on xenial?
[15:23] <Ultra_DuckZ> 1.60 or newer
[15:23] <Sagar> i have deleted a file using rm myfile.zip
[15:23] <Sagar> is there a way i could recover it with any software, its a server, i have less space on the server please help
[15:25] <TomyWork> nacc, looks like the upload failed again :/
[15:25] <Sagar> anyone?
[15:26] <linux> blah
[15:26] <Sagar> ...linux...
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: recover files with photorec
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Sagar
[15:27] <Sagar> photorec will help?
[15:27] <Sagar> i don't have space i need to recover specific file
[15:27] <Ultra_DuckZ> Sagar: I recovered some files I deleted by mistake, but it all depends on if the space occupied by the old file was overwritten already by other files
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: add another dir to recover the files to
[15:28] <Ultra_DuckZ> Sagar: I was lucky because in my case it was on a usb disk, I just unmounted it immediately and I was able to recove everything
[15:28] <Sagar> ok any guides how to use photorec?
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: its easy, install testdisk, sudo photorec and scan your partition for lost files
[15:29] <Ultra_DuckZ> Sagar: I used this I think... can't remember exactly http://askubuntu.com/questions/6698/can-files-directories-deleted-with-rm-be-restored
[15:30] <Ultra_DuckZ> extundelete
[15:31] <Sagar> how can i make only find .zip files?
[15:31] <Trojan302> find *.zip
[15:32] <Sagar> no i mea with photorec
[15:32] <neuromute9> Trojan302, he want's to only find .zip with photorec/testdisk
[15:32] <Sagar> i want photorec to recover only .zip files inside the folder
[15:32] <neuromute9> wants*
[15:32] <neuromute9> derp
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> Sagar: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[15:33] <neuromute9> Sagar, I don't think that is possible, but google is your friend
[15:33] <neuromute9> You're gonna need a lot of space to put the recovered files
[15:33] <McYa_> Greeting. i have RadeonHD 7800. i understand the new open source driver is on the way, but can i do anything to fix small, yet noticable screen tear on video playback? im on 16.04
[15:33] <neuromute9> It effectively examines the disk for files, as opposed to reading the index of files on disk (which is what your OS filesystem layer is doing)
[15:34] <TomyWork> nacc i got an idea... why dont i just binary-patch that thing? :)
[15:34] <neuromute9> Sagar, that's a good point.... what FS is this?
[15:34] <neuromute9> If it's NTFS, there's some good/easy recovery tools
[15:36] <McYa_> any of you lads alive? i apologise to whine. but this problem has been persisting to me for while.
[15:37] <Sagar> FS?
[15:38] <Sagar> I am on ubuntu 16.06
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: wich driver in use?
[15:38] <Sagar> 04*
[15:39] <McYa_> the one that came bundled in with installation.
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: wich is?
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> radeon?
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: sudo lshw -C video behind driver=?
[15:41] <McYa_> just showing list of option
[15:42] <McYa_> i tried sudo lshw -C display and all it shows me: driver=radeon
[15:42] <Trojan302> check chek
[15:42] <ioria> McYa_,  try this https://cubethethird.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/eliminate-screen-tearing-with-amd-gpu-on-ubuntu/
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: ok good, did you have tearing on vlc video's also?
[15:44] <Ayy> Hi Everyone.
[15:45] <Ayy> I am very confused which version do i pick. i wanted a small in size ubuntu version where i can just install LAMP. its very appreciated if anyone can help me.
[15:45] <McYa_> yes  lotuspsychje
[15:46] <Ayy> I was looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD but i am not sure about it..
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: just curious, you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[15:49] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: how would i know?
[15:50] <XATRIX> guys, how can i manually start ubuntu from flash disk using grub2 cli ?
[15:50] <XATRIX> i can't load it via native UEFI
[15:50] <XATRIX> but i was able to start grub2 shell
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:52] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: none was installed.
[15:53] <jordi_> heyy
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: can you try install, so we know its not a codec tearing?
[15:54] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get policy ubuntu-restricted-extra?
[15:54] <McYa_> on that note, may i ask you how to restart display manager?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:56] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: done. reboot pc?
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: try a vlc video perhaps
[16:00] <lory_> ciauu  a tutti?^__^
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> !it | lory_
[16:03] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: it didnt remove it. but its a whole lotta lets noticable than before. i can still see screen tear if i eyeball it
[16:03] <McYa_> less* not lets.
[16:04] <McYa_> Thank you though. all that's is left is to hopefully wait AMD push out support for my gpu. or are they only planning to support it beyond Radeon HD?
[16:05] <TomyWork> I'm trying to insmod a binary-patched kernel module, but i get "insmod: ERROR: could not insert module btusb.ko: Key was rejected by service"
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: system up to date to latest 16.04.1?
[16:06] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:06] <TomyWork> there's no message about this in dmesg. I'm on trusty with a 4.4.0-47 kernel from the linux-lts-xenial package
[16:06] <TomyWork> the original btusb.ko is from that same package
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: another option is to test a higher kernel as like 4.8
[16:07] <McYa_> lotuspsychje: noted. will do that later tonight
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> McYa_: 16.10 liveusb perhaps?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[16:07] <McYa_> yakkety yak?
[16:07] <OerHeks> McYa_, are you sure your hd 7800 will be supported by the newer AMDgpu? i cannot find any confirmation about that
[16:08] <OerHeks> so radeon it is
[16:20] <schone> hello
[16:20] <exitnood> bye
[16:21] <schone> i got some iptables rules that i’ve made that block some in/out traffic on my outside interface, however i do allow established and related connections both on the INPUT and FORWARD chains…. for some reason apt-get update won’t fetch the mirrors list.  What rules does one need for that to work??
[16:22] <angrycoast> I have a Canon MG2922 printer for my ubuntu 16.04 OS and the printer works fine but the scanner does not, I am having trouble locating the scangearmp-common package
[16:22] <exitnood> do you think people will anser you faster by using sould question marks?
[16:22] <exitnood> double*
[16:23] <exitnood> you gota love irc paranoia
[16:24] <BlackVenom> Hey folks
[16:24] <exitnood> you eman peasants?
[16:25] <BlackVenom> I've installed apache2, php7 and phpsysinfo, restarted apache2 but when I navigate to local_ip/phpsysinfo i get error 404
[16:25] <BlackVenom> the phpsysinfo files have been installed into /usr/share
[16:26] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[16:26] <BlackVenom> What am I missing?
[16:26] <ubuntu-mate> im new on this
[16:27] <exitnood> what happends if you navigate to locla_host ?
[16:28] <BlackVenom> exitnood, it's on a seperate networked maching
[16:28] <BlackVenom> machine
[16:28] <exitnood> so why are you navigating to locla_ip?»
[16:28] <BlackVenom> the local ip of the other machine
[16:29] <exitnood> ahaha
[16:29] <exitnood> amuzing
[16:29] <OerHeks> exitnood, how helpfull
[16:30] <BlackVenom> Do I need to tell apache2 to check /usr/share as well as /etc/www?
[16:30] <exitnood> i recon not as muchg as you
[16:30] <exitnood> OerHeks:
[16:31] <OerHeks> BlackVenom,  if you find no answer here, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[16:31] <exitnood> try /notice #ubuntu* your_question
[16:31] <BlackVenom> Thanks OerHeks, didn't know that channel existed
[16:31] <MadPsy> BlackVenom, check what /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/phpsysinfo contains
[16:33] <BlackVenom> MadPsy there is no phpsysinfo file in that directory
[16:33] <BlackVenom> Only charset.conf  javascript-common.conf  localized-error-pages.conf  other-vhosts-access-log.conf  security.conf  serve-cgi-bin.conf
[16:33] <MadPsy> it'll have a file somewhere in /etc/apache2/
[16:34] <exitnood> somewere*
[16:34] <MadPsy> find /etc/apache2/ -name \*phpsysinfo\*
[16:34] <MadPsy> exitnood, somewhere.
[16:35] <BlackVenom> that command returns no results MadPsy
[16:35] <MadPsy> how did you install phpsysinfo, via apt ?
[16:35] <BlackVenom> i installed id using sudo apt-get install phpsysinfo
[16:35] <OerHeks> MadPsy, isn't it /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpsysinfo.conf  ?
[16:36] <OerHeks> old page, stil valid i guess, http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/06/monitoring-system-resources-on-ubuntu-server-with-phpsysinfo.html
[16:36] <OerHeks>  Allow from 192.168.x.y
[16:36] <exitnood> vote donald
[16:36] <MadPsy> I'd expect it to give a 403 not 404
[16:37] <OerHeks> !ot | exitnood
[16:37] <foo> Any idea why I'm seeing this? https://bpaste.net/show/fd925ff31e6d - I can't run apt-get update, it always dies with Killedg package lists... 87%
[16:37] <exitnood> does apt-get use https
[16:38] <foo> exitnood: Is that a question for me?
[16:38] <MadPsy> OerHeks, conf.d is the old way... conf-available/conf-enable is how it /should/ be done now
[16:38] <BlackVenom> Im using Ubuntu server 16.04
[16:39] <exitnood> maybe someone injected code on your package while in transit
[16:39] <Euri> :)
[16:39] <yeats> exitnood: not helpful
[16:40] <angrycoast> My printer prints fine from my PC and I can see my printer in SimpleScan but I can't scan
[16:41] <angrycoast> I have the canon mg2922 printing over the network fine
[16:43] <MadPsy> BlackVenom, well phpsysinfo seems a bit broken given it doesn't provide an apache config file
[16:43] <LinuxNovice_> Hi, I'm new to Linux. I have a query regarding Ubuntu latest version 16.10
[16:44] <LinuxNovice_> in what way it is different from the earlier version 6.04 which is a LTS release?
[16:45] <exitnood> 6.04 isnr supported anymore
[16:45] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice_, see the releasenotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[16:45] <LinuxNovice_> If as a newbie to Linux, I want to install Ubuntu, which release should I choose?
[16:45] <OerHeks> choose the 16.04 lts
[16:45] <yeats> LinuxNovice_: 16.10 is fine
[16:46] <exitnood> ubuntu-budggie
[16:46] <yeats> LinuxNovice_: 16.04 and 16.10 aren't all that different for the desktop user
[16:46] <LinuxNovice_> When is the new version going to be released. I think, 16.10 is supported for only 9 months.
[16:46] <yeats> LinuxNovice_: if you're concerned about upgrading that often, then go with 16.04
[16:46] <BlackVenom> MadPsy very annoying
[16:46] <mcphail> LinuxNovice_: new versions every April and October
[16:46] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice_, users can have benefit with the newer kernel for newest hardware, else i would stick to LTS
[16:46] <exitnood> but you can dist upgrade
[16:47] <MadPsy> BlackVenom, I can provide a fix for you, but I'm not suggesting you use it
[16:47] <BlackVenom> I may just install the gui lol
[16:47] <LinuxNovice_> It means after some time support for 16.10 is going to be stopped?
[16:47] <exitnood> but you can dist upgrade
[16:48] <yeats> exitnood: please stop - you're spouting nonsense
[16:48] <exitnood> to 17
[16:48] <exitnood> no worries
[16:49] <exitnood> only proble is creeping bugs
[16:49] <MadPsy> BlackVenom, there's 2 problems. 1) missing 'Alias /phpsysinfo /usr/share/phpsysinfo' (create /etc/apache2/conf-available/phpsysinfo.conf), then 'a2enconf phpsysinfo'
[16:49] <yeats> LinuxNovice_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases will help
[16:49] <MadPsy> problem 2) it wont work with PHP7
[16:49] <LinuxNovice_> is 16.10 better than 16.04? In layman's terms could anybody explain in what way it is better? if it is.
[16:49] <exitnood> it hs better support for newer hardware
[16:50] <LinuxNovice_> I'm switching from Windows.
[16:50] <MadPsy> 16.04 has Long Term Support, 16.10 is more 'cutting edge'
[16:50] <yeats> LinuxNovice_: just one of many similar articles: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/download-ubuntu-16-10-new-features
[16:51] <LinuxNovice_> I can't understand the technical terms. I'm just a home user.
[16:51] <BlackVenom> Ah it wont work with php 7
[16:51] <lay> hello
[16:51] <MadPsy> BlackVenom, https://github.com/phpsysinfo/phpsysinfo/issues/101
[16:52] <MadPsy> the 'Alias' missing is a good start though.. and you could install PHP 5.6, or you could jsut install phpsysinfo from the Git repo
[16:52] <LinuxNovice_> Will I have to reinstall after the expiry of the said period if I install 16.10 now?
[16:52] <MadPsy> upgrade not reinstall
[16:53] <BlackVenom> The latest verion isn't in the ubuntu repo
[16:53] <LinuxNovice_> ok. It means I can upgrade to whichever new version released. right?
[16:53] <BlackVenom> version
[16:53] <MadPsy> nope.. you'd get it from git
[16:54] <MadPsy> LinuxNovice_, yes
[16:54] <BlackVenom> MadPsy, this is getting complicated
[16:54] <BlackVenom> lol
[16:54] <MadPsy> good way to learn not to depend on packages though :)
[16:55] <LinuxNovice_> ok. I'll install 16.10, then..
[16:55] <BlackVenom> it certainly is
[16:55] <BlackVenom> Wanna teach me :P
[16:55] <MadPsy> only if your connection to Google is broken
[16:56] <BlackVenom> haha
[16:56] <LinuxNovice_> is 16.10 significantly better than 16.04?
[16:56] <LinuxNovice_> helloooo....
[16:57] <enes_> i cant see a difference between them
[16:57] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice_, you keep reasking, 16.10 with a newer kernel gives better support for newer hardware, that is all
[16:58] <OerHeks> newer hardware as in hardware less than 12 months old
[16:58] <LinuxNovice_> ok. what about old laptops. can I install Lubuntu 16.10 on my old laptop?
[16:58] <MadPsy> try it and see, probably.
[16:59] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice_, go try it?
[16:59] <LinuxNovice_> ok.
[16:59] <lalbantuuu> hi
[16:59] <LinuxNovice_> can I downgrade from 16.10 to 16.04 later?
[16:59] <lalbantuuu> what must i do in ubuntu 16.10 to ensure my SSD will be healthy and will work fine?
[16:59] <MadPsy> lalbantuuu, nothing
[17:00] <OerHeks> lalbantuuu, nothing, just have fun
[17:00] <OerHeks> LinuxNovice_, nope.
[17:00] <lalbantuuu> i read that it only takes care of intel/samsung ssd by default
[17:01] <lalbantuuu> that for others it's needed to do something
[17:01] <OerHeks> lalbantuuu, wrong info
[17:01] <BlackVenom> MadPsy, I've cloned the git repository and now have a phpsysinfo
[17:01] <MadPsy> lalbantuuu, you'll find there's a cron added, probably in /etc/cron.d with regards to TRIM
[17:01] <LinuxNovice_> ok. I'll go with Lubuntu 16.10 for my old laptop that was bought in 2005.
[17:01] <lalbantuuu> thanks guys
[17:02] <BlackVenom> shall I now overwrite the current phpsysinfor directory with the new one from git?
[17:02] <MadPsy> hmmm, probably not wise
[17:02] <MadPsy> use /var/www/html/phpsysinfo instead
[17:03] <MadPsy> then you won't need that 'Alias' statement I gave you earlier
[17:04] <BlackVenom> It's working now MadPsy
[17:04] <BlackVenom> Thanks dude
[17:04] <MadPsy> np
[17:04] <MadPsy> I would uninstall the phpsysinfo package with apt
[17:06] <BlackVenom> done although now phpsysinfo doesn't seem to show me the info i wanted lol
[17:06] <MadPsy> it doesn't have everything enabled by default, that said I've no idea what you were wanting to see
[17:07] <BlackVenom> the HDD smart data
[17:07] <BlackVenom> I am sure one of my HDD is failing
[17:07] <MadPsy> you want smartctl for that
[17:07] <MadPsy> apt install smartmontools
[17:09] <BlackVenom> I've done that and got the report but it means nothing to me
[17:09] <BlackVenom> I was told phpsysinfo would display the info graphically for me
[17:10] <MadPsy> it probably can... have you checked the phpsysinfo config?
[17:12] <MadPsy> just googled it and looks somewhat convoluted to get it working but seems it supports it
[17:13] <MadPsy> tbh the output of smartctl isn't too bad.. maybe paste the output here and someone will help
[17:13] <MadPsy> paste it into a pastebin
[17:14] <rexwin_> by adding the following line will sudo will not ask for sudo password again. is this correct?
[17:14] <rexwin_> username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:14] <MadPsy> yes
[17:15] <MadPsy> you can do it by group too
[17:16] <BlackVenom> Thanks MadPsy I'll try and have a tinker first
[17:19] <rexwin_> but it is asking for the password again for sudo visudo
[17:19] <rexwin_> I need to run sudo without entering the password because it is run in cronjob
[17:23] <MadPsy> username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[17:23] <vishal__> What is systemd
[17:24] <MadPsy> vishal__,  really ?
[17:24] <vishal__> Yes
[17:24] <MadPsy> you came to #ubuntu to ask what systemd is, like someone here will type a paragraph when you could just google it
[17:25] <OerHeks> !systemd
[17:25] <OerHeks> nice factoid
[17:25] <vishal__> In 16.10 systemd is not used
[17:25] <vishal__> So
[17:25] <OerHeks> vishal__, ?
[17:25] <nicomachus> vishal__: wrong. systemd is used in 16.10
[17:25] <OerHeks> get your facts right
[17:27] <OerHeks> open terminal: ps -p 1
[17:38] <rusty> hi
[17:39] <muwro> hi rusty
[17:47] <tonyt> can anyone point me in the right direction to get android tablet tethering working with ubuntu?
[17:48] <tonyt> the tablet is connected to a wifi hostspot already
[17:48] <tonyt> and has an active internet connection
[17:50] <schone> hello
[17:50] <schone> are there knonws prblems with the apt mirrors server? im getting the follownig trying to apt-get update
[17:50] <zgray> hello
[17:50] <schone> E: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/xenial/InRelease  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)
[17:51] <schone> and its only 2 out of the 5 repos that are having this problem so i’m thinking this isnt a local networking problem
[17:52] <Guest80452> Thanks
[18:02] <pelicano> how can i convert any video to dvd format to watch it on a dvd player?
[18:04] <ChkDigit> pelicano: Brasero should help you through it.
[18:05] <dStruct> anyone here use Terminator?  I'm looking to hide or change the bright red bar and not having any luck with google
[18:06] <pelicano> ChkDigit: does brasero is good for convert and burn dvd ???
[18:12] <yao_ziyuan> is there any tool to test my RAM?
[18:12] <yao_ziyuan> i have 32GB RAM (8GB x 4), but one failed shortly after i bought the computer and got replaced.
[18:13] <ChkDigit> pelicano: Sorry you're right.  Been a while since I've done one.  DeVeDe, Bombono, and DVDStyler have tools that hide the complexities of avconv from you, and make menus.
[18:16] <RichW> yao_ziyuan, memtestx86
[18:17] <RichW> yao_ziyuan, http://www.memtest.org/
[18:17] <yao_ziyuan> RichW: my ubuntu repo has memtest86+  memtester
[18:17] <yao_ziyuan> RichW: which should i use?
[18:18] <pelicano> ChkDigit: devede was my favorite but in ubuntu 16 xenial give me a lot of error i dont know why
[18:19] <RichW> yao_ziyuan, Rapidly press shift right after turning on your PC you should get a menu. Choose memtest from the menu.
[18:20] <yao_ziyuan> RichW: is that the ubuntu boot menu or pc boot/pre-boot menu?
[18:21] <RichW> yao_ziyuan, its the ubuntu grub boot menu.
[18:21] <yao_ziyuan> RichW: o
[18:21] <jgg> hi!! I am trying to install a Canon IRC3580ne, but its not working
[18:21] <jgg> the printer properties indicates status : filter failed
[18:22] <jgg> i am using ubuntu 16, for a office server and shared printer
[18:24] <jgg> i downloaded the ppd directly from canon website
[18:25] <jgg> any workarround to enable the printer ??
[18:28] <ioria> jgg, you may need the official drivers from canon
[18:29] <jgg> ioria I am using the official drivers from canon
[18:30] <ioria> jgg,  i see it's an .rpm package, how did you installed it ? and you got any errors ?
[18:31] <ioria> jgg,  http://www.canon.co.uk/support/products/imagerunner/irc3580ne.aspx?type=drivers&language=EN&os=Linux%20(64-bit)
[18:32] <jgg> i donwloaded from http://www.canon.es/support/products/imagerunner/irc3580ne.aspx?type=drivers&language=ES&os=Linux%20(64-bit)
[18:32] <jgg> the 3 files, the first of them contains the ppd
[18:33] <jgg> the rpm has doesn't anything
[18:34] <jgg> i will try to download from the co.uk
[18:35] <ioria> jgg,   sorry, it's also available a .deb for ubu/deb ... at bottom
[18:36] <ioria> jgg,   CQue DEB Driver
[18:37] <ioria> jgg,   from the link i posted, i mean
[18:40] <awozniak> "nibbles" and "lights out" show me an empty window full of black.  These used to work.  WTF?  Ubuntu 14.04.05 LTS, x86_64, NVIDIA
[18:40] <tonyt> i accidently uninstalled network manager. is there a way to reinstall it with out an active internet connection?
[18:41] <awozniak> tonyt: is your network still up?  "ping 8.8.8.8"
[18:41] <ioria> tonyt, you can try from a livecd
[18:42] <tonyt> awozniak no
[18:42] <tonyt> ioria now?
[18:42] <tonyt> awozniak im using a win 7 vm tethered to a androi tablet
[18:42] <awozniak> tonyt: you can try to pring up the network manually.  If you're wired ethernet, it might be as easy as "ifup eth0"
[18:42] <tonyt> the host is ubuntu. no connection
[18:42] <ioria> tonyt,  in chroot, you mount your /dev/sdax /mnt,  bind mount the critcal fs, and then reinstall network-mnager
[18:42] <tonyt> k
[18:43] <ioria> tonyt,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/422928/how-to-reinstall-network-manager-without-internet-access
[18:43] <tonyt> ifup: failed to open lockfile /run/network/ifstate.eth0: Permission denied
[18:43] <ioria> tonyt,  or you can set up /etc/network/interface
[18:43] <tonyt> k
[18:43] <tonyt> im list sort of
[18:44] <ioria> tonyt,  with eth/cable it's easier
[18:48] <jgg> ioria I used dkpg with the deb from the website, this creates a /opt/cel/ folder with some files but I don't know what to do now...
[18:49] <ioria> jgg,   you first need to read the README or whatever instructions  are packed...
[18:51] <tonyt> ok i got it reinstalled. is there a way to put the applet back where it was?
[18:51] <ioria> jgg,   has been released on 12 October 2016 , so it should work
[18:53] <elmoustacho> Hi everybody
[18:54] <ioria> tonyt,  nm-applet  , look if you have a nm-applet.desktop in /usr/share/applications
[18:55] <TheCowboy> I'm trying to remove libimobiledevice, and other relevant packages, but it wants to remove a ton of other packages (ubuntu-desktop, unity-control-center, etc.)
[18:55] <TheCowboy> Is there a non-hackish way to fix this?
[18:56] <elmoustacho> I would like to know why Ubuntu netboot images don't include all network drivers ? For example USB Ethernet controller are not included => usbnet.ko, r8152.ko ... are not included in "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net" directory of initrd. Anyone knowns why ? Thanks :)
[18:56] <TheCowboy> I'm removing it and others to build the libimobiledevice suite from source if that matters
[18:57] <TheCowboy> also, would it be considered a bug? I don't see how ubuntu-desktop would depend upon ilibmobiledevice
[18:57] <LargePixels> i'm using ubuntu on my macbook pro.  when i alt-tab, it stops after the first switch.
[18:57] <LargePixels> i have to use the arrow keys to move between programs
[18:57] <LargePixels> is this expected behavior?
[18:57] <idoko> exit
[18:57] <idoko> exit
[19:00] <TheCowboy> LargePixels: don't think so
[19:00] <TheCowboy> it doesn't switch to the next if you hold alt and hit tab again?
[19:01] <jgg> ioria, thanks for your help, there was a graphic interface ;)
[19:02] <ioria> jgg,  you're welcome
[19:02] <ghoul> wot?
[19:02] <ghoul> how?
[19:08] <Blakes5> I'm so confused
[19:13] <moloney> I have been banging my head against pam-auth-update for a while now and would appreciate any help. I want to fetch user/group info from LDAP on a server so I install 'libnss-ldap'. This automatically enables ldap authentication in PAM (this already seems like a bad idea) which I don't want, I just want the user/group info available. My first attempt to avoid this is just edit /etc/pam.d/common-auth to not use ldap.
[19:13] <moloney> However, this manual edit will get silently reverted anytime the libnss-ldap package gets updated (or pam-auth-update gets run for some other reason).
[19:13] <moloney> Ok, so I research pam-auth-update which claims that "Debconf is the correct interface to use for management of PAM config files" (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PAMConfigFrameworkSpec).
[19:14] <moloney> Ok so I use debconf-setselections to remove "ldap" from "libpam-runtime/profiles". I try running "dpkg-reconfigure libnss-ldap" and it completely wipes my manual debconf settings and re-enables ldap authentication!
[19:15] <moloney> I can run "pam-auth-update" interactively and deselect "ldap" in the ncurses prompt, but I need to do the non-intercatively
[19:18] <Josh__> I'm having some problems with diffrent hosts acquiring locks with nfs.  The server keeps saying lockd: cannot monitor <hostname>  Any ideas?
[19:18] <elmoustacho> moloney: I think you have to modify configuration in "/usr/share/pam-configs/" and run "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive pam-auth-update"
[19:29] <joaco> Hello, just installed eclipse on my ubuntu gnome 16.10
[19:29] <joaco> The thing is it's installed but doesn't appear in my applications, I have to manually execute the software via terminal. How do I add it to the applications?
[19:30] <shaytan> hi guys. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04...relatively fresh installation. I've noticed, quite often, at initial boot of the system and login that my account gets icons that do not match the actual theme I've set. Logut - relogin fixes the problem. I would say this happens about 60% of times the very first time I login to my desktop. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[19:30] <rexwin_> I added username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[19:31] <rexwin_> and still it asks for the password for username
[19:31] <rexwin_> in sudo visudo
[19:37] <LargePixels> TheCowboy: it does not.  alt tab does switch to the previous window, but stops after that.  i installed a configuraiton utily to find a way around it, but no luck
[19:39] <dumle29> eehm
[19:40] <yates> i'm using ubuntu 16.04 LTS and i tried to install kde plasma as described here: http://www.tecmint.com/install-kde-plasma-5-in-linux/
[19:40] <dumle29> So a few weeks ago I managed to get virtualbox to run, but self signing the modules that come with virtualbox
[19:40] <dumle29> Now, for some reason, it's like it's forgotten that
[19:41] <dumle29> checking dmesg, I can see that my UEFI is loading the cert correctly, but checking keyctl list %:.system_keyring Gives me Can't find 'keyring:.system_keyring'
[19:41] <yates> now i'm getting:  kde-telepathy-minimal : Depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0) but it is not installed
[19:41] <dumle29> Nvm sudo worked
[19:41] <yates> using -f doesn't work either
[19:41] <nacc> yates: you are using a PPA, you probably need to contact the PPA owner?
[19:42] <yates> nacc: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:43] <yates> so yeah, i guess i am
[19:45] <yates> let's say i want to forget about kde/plasma and just revert back to plain unity/ubuntu 16.04. how to do?
[19:46] <nacc> !ppa-purge
[19:46] <nacc> yates: --^
[19:46] <yates> ok, let me try that - thanks nacc
[19:48] <yates> nacc: ok, i can't install anything else until i resolve the unmet dependencies for kde-telepathy-minimal, it appears
[19:48] <yates> apt seems hosered.
[19:49] <OerHeks> yates, ehm ...
[19:50] <yates> is there a paste utility for ubuntu? so i can, e.g., "sudo apt-get blah | <something>-paste" to pastebin my problem?
[19:50] <nacc> !pastebinit | yates
[19:51] <yates> crap. pastebinit is not installed.
[19:53] <yates> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23497063/
[19:53] <tjingboem> is there a command option to start a program but only allow to run one instance of that program?
[19:53] <OerHeks> yates, did you read this ?? http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-neon-users-urged-to-upgrade-their-systems-or-reinstall-the-linux-distro-510183.shtml
[19:54] <OerHeks> heard about this 3 hrs ago ...
[19:54] <nacc> tjingboem: that would be highly command specific
[19:54] <tjingboem> i see
[19:54] <yates> OerHeks: no, i haven't heard.
[19:55] <narinn> hello brother, how to remove brug?
[19:55] <yates> i pastebin'ed the failure of apt-get -f install above - any comments on how to fix this?
[19:56] <nacc> yates: try to just remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ?
[19:56] <yates> you mean: apt-get remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ?
[19:56] <nacc> yates: yeah
[19:56] <nacc> yates: hrm, although it's not installed now; so you'd need to figure out what's pulling it in
[20:00] <yates> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23497094/
[20:01] <yates> i'm confused what to do.
[20:01] <yates> remove kde-telepathy-minimal?
[20:01] <nacc> yates: try removing kde-telepathy-minimal
[20:02] <yates> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23497103/
[20:02] <XATRIX> Hi, please help me to run ubuntu on 32bit UEFI device. I tried to make a bootable USB flash disk, but after i restarted the system, i get simply grub> prompt, even without grub menu
[20:02] <XATRIX> https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[20:02] <yates> got to go, thanks for the help
[20:04] <XATRIX> any idea ?
[20:05] <EriC^^> XATRIX: try typing "ls -l"
[20:07] <XATRIX> invalid file name `-l'.
[20:08] <EriC^^> ls
[20:08] <EriC^^> try configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:09] <XATRIX> hd(0) (hd0,gpt1) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) ...
[20:09] <XATRIX> Yeap, i have the menu
[20:09] <EriC^^> ok
[20:09] <EriC^^> let the magic begin
[20:10] <XATRIX> Seems like it's running. Let's see
[20:10] <XATRIX> I'm trying to run it on Prestigio Visconte V
[20:10] <XATRIX> Started to hate Win10, after 6 hours of use..
[20:25] <XATRIX> Any idea is it possible to use Ubuntu on Intel Atom Z36xxx/Z37xxx  ?
[20:25] <XATRIX> I have tons of func. unavailable
[20:25] <XATRIX> Touchscreen, sensors etc...
[20:26] <tgm4883> Those seem like unrelated statements
[20:27] <XATRIX> sorry ?
[20:28] <tgm4883> XATRIX: you asked if it's possible to use Ubuntu on an ATOM Z36/Z37. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, it's an x86/x86_64 architecture
[20:28] <tgm4883> XATRIX: That shouldn't have any bearing on touchscreen, sensors, etc
[20:30] <XATRIX> tgm4883, i mean, i have 50% of my hardware unusable
[20:31] <tgm4883> XATRIX: ok, I get that
[20:31] <XATRIX> I'm  trying to run it on x86_64 tablet
[20:33] <tgm4883> XATRIX: right, but your issue is the touchscreen, sensors, etc, not the processor. So you should start with mentioning what those devices are
[20:36] <yourname4> Anyone know a good Plug'n Play USB Wifi Adapter for 16.04?
[20:36] <yourname4> Been having issues with older hardware
[20:37] <ioria> yourname4, NETgear wg111v3 never gave me troubles
[20:38] <TheCowboy> yourname4: I remember seeing a few lists for ones that work with Kali, they might be of help
[20:39] <TheCowboy> usually in the context of wireshark
[20:41] <yourname4> Thanks TheCowboy ioria
[20:42] <ioria> yourname4  yrwlcm
[20:48] <fr0zn_> hi
[20:48] <XATRIX> tgm4883, any idea how can i find out what devices they are ?
[20:49] <XATRIX> lspci, shows very tiny info
[20:49] <yourname4> hey fr0zn_
[20:49] <fr0zn_> just trying znc bouncer
[20:49] <fr0zn_> so cool
[20:50] <OerHeks> XATRIX, is this a 32 bit uefi machine?
[20:54] <scottplyr777> hi room
[20:54] <XATRIX> OerHeks, yeap. only 32bit UEFI i can load on
[20:54] <yourname4> hey scottplyr777
[20:54] <OerHeks> told you hours ago that 32 bit uefi is a hack, and you might not get all hardware to work :-(
[20:55] <scottplyr777> im having problems with guitarix no sound but i have sound with everything else
[20:55] <s7urmi> Hello, anyone any idea why touchegg accepts 4-finger drags but not 3-finger drags?(Kaby Lake XPS13 btw)
[20:56] <scottplyr777> if anyone knows that program and can help me i'd appreciate it
[20:56] <XATRIX> OerHeks, wait a bit. I thought UEFI needs to boot the kernel, and after it the hardware is driven by the kernel
[20:57] <XATRIX> How can bootloader influence on hardware after the system boot
[20:57] <OerHeks> XATRIX, just saying, seen lots of people in here with this 32 bit uefi issue
[20:57] <OerHeks> sue you rvendor for 64 bit uefi
[20:57] <tgm4883> Well that doesn't seem helpful...
[20:59] <XATRIX> and what's the way out ?
[21:00] <yourname4>  /exit
[21:00] <OerHeks> tgm4883, i know, someone has to say it.
[21:00] <Jordan_U> XATRIX: What problem are you having?
[21:01] <tgm4883> OerHeks: common misconception. Nobody actually has to say things that are unhelpful
[21:01] <XATRIX> Jordan_U, em... I have prestigio visconte tablet. Which has  ATOM Z36/Z37 onboard
[21:02] <XATRIX> As for now, i see incorrect touchscreen position designation, no battery status, no wireless as long as i see
[21:07] <Jordan_U> XATRIX: Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu? How did you install Ubuntu?
[21:25] <s7urmi> Anyone any idea why touchegg accepts 4-finger drags but not 3-finger drags?
[21:26] <blitzcreep> is there a linux way to save your settings and grub stuff and put them back after installing a newer version of a distro?
[21:27] <blitzcreep> at least the grub settings ...or burg settings with themes aso
[21:27] <est31> I keep getting occasional flickers
[21:28] <est31> of the screen
[21:28] <est31> and often its connected to when I do something with the keyboard
[21:28] <est31> I know it sounds strange but how can I debug this?
[21:34] <stimp> ooboontoo
[21:41] <stimp> there are little ubuntus, doing little ubuntu things here! :3
[21:41] <stimp> smol ones!
[21:41] <stimp> :33333
[21:58] <hhee> guys, anyone is using vifm? console file manager
[21:59] <akik> hhee: no, but mc
[21:59] <akik> seems to be quite similar
[22:11] <jo-> do you guys know how to look up channels
[22:11] <jo-> ?
[22:11] <genii> !alis | jo-
[22:11] <jo-> ok thank you
[22:15] <arandommudkip> Hello
[22:15] <arandommudkip> Anybody here?
[22:16] <arandommudkip> I could use some help, if possible
[22:17] <OerHeks> hi arand<tab>
[22:19] <metalliko> hello
[22:19] <metalliko> someone knows how to install banshee with hidpi support in ubuntu
[22:19] <metalliko> ?
[22:20] <metalliko> is available in mint
[22:25] <krytarik> metalliko: It's the same as in Mint.
[22:25] <metalliko> nope
[22:26] <OerHeks> metalliko, hidpi support should be systemwide, not just one app. ubuntu has scaling feature http://askubuntu.com/questions/671238/ubuntu-mate-desktop-scaling-for-4k-displays
[22:26] <ChetManly> remember when  this channel used to scroll so fast you could barely keep up
[22:26] <Guy1524> hey guys, in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a haswell integrated GPU, in glxinfo, it says version 3.3 of openGL is installed, if I were able to update mesa to 12 or 13, would openGL 4.5 be accessible?
[22:26] <metalliko> I installed banshee on ubuntu from the repos and hasn't hidpi support
[22:26] <Guy1524> Intel HD 4600 graphics to be specific btw
[22:28] <metalliko> scalling factor is alredy on 2 OerHeks
[22:28] <metalliko> but app's without hidpi support are unusable small
[22:29] <metalliko> is a 13 inch 4k display
[22:29] <OerHeks> metalliko, next step could be unity-tweak-tool to mess around with font sizes
[22:29] <OerHeks> just wondering what mint does extra..
[22:29] <metalliko> it has hidpi out of the box
[22:30] <OerHeks> oh,  GTK3 HiDPI theme
[22:30] <metalliko> and that can be accomplished in ubuntu?
[22:30] <golfsailor> If I try to install ubuntu it don't find my windows boot and partition
[22:31] <OerHeks> metalliko, i am reading this > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=226322  which explains that apps should be build for hidpi, not all mint stuff works great with hidpi
[22:32] <metalliko> but banshee has hidpi support in mint
[22:32] <ikonia> does it come from the ubuntu repo ?
[22:32] <ikonia> or a different repo
[22:32] <metalliko> yea to work properly the application has to support hidpi
[22:32] <metalliko> ikonia, ubuntu repo
[22:32] <metalliko> aaa
[22:32] <ikonia> metalliko: then its the same app with the same build options and dependencies
[22:33] <metalliko> do you mean in mint?
[22:33] <ikonia> I mean in both
[22:33] <ikonia> does mint pull it from the ubuntu repos, or does mint pull it from a different repo
[22:33] <metalliko> i'm assuming not since the banshee that i installed from the repos hasn't
[22:33] <ikonia> don't assume
[22:33] <ikonia> check
[22:34] <golfsailor> If I try to install ubuntu it don't find my windows boot and partition, any idea ? Windows 10 / Ubuntu 16. 32 bit Intel chipset. Any idea / Help ?
[22:35] <nicomachus> golfsailor: are you installing Ubuntu as Legacy or UEFI?
[22:35] <golfsailor> UEFI
[22:35] <nicomachus> I don't know much about the difference, but that's usually the issue.
[22:35] <ikonia> common issues are things like disk encyption, raid etc
[22:35] <golfsailor> ok, maybe possible to repair the windows boot later ?
[22:35] <ikonia> "why can't grub probe and find the windows boot loader"
[22:36] <ikonia> thats the question you need to work through
[22:37] <golfsailor> thanks
[22:38] <alib> hello everyone, apologies, i'm a newbie here.  i have a new workstation with no OS installed, its an Asus x99 deluxe motherboard.  I created a bootable USB stick with Ubuntu 16.10 desktop version.  When the computer would boot up, it would enter the UEFI BIOS Utility.  After going through the Advanced Settings, I saw my USB drive listed in the boot drive options, so I selected it.
[22:39] <alib> The UEFI utility just went to a black screen with a single cursor at the top left, then back to the UEFI utility.  It did this a bunch of times, so I tried changing some UEFI settings by reading online, one of the things I changed was disabling CSM mode.
[22:39] <ikonia> sounds like you need to setup your motherboard properly, worth testing the usb media in another computer too
[22:40] <alib> Now, I get to a screen "American Megatrends" listing my USB device, says the "VGA card not supported by UEFI driver", and says to re-enter BIOS setup hit F1, to enter the OS, F2.  Hitting F1 and F2 does _nothing_
[22:41] <ikonia> alib: this is all hardware problems you need to work through
[22:41] <ikonia> alib: this is not an ubuntu issue
[22:41] <alib> ok, thank you @ikonia.  are there any specific UEFI/BIOS settings i should be aware of when installing Ubuntu?
[22:41] <ikonia> nope
[22:42] <alib> ok, thanks again
[22:42] <krad_> does anyone use a lenova?
[22:46] <TOROSA> hi
[22:46] <Bray90820> Do the daily builds of Zesty have an updated kernel or does it use the same one as 16.10?
[22:46] <tgm4883> krad_: lenova? is that different than a lenovo?
[22:46] <ChetManly> why are people askling about lenovo so much on irc today?
[22:47] <tgm4883> ChetManly: cause they are often pushed as having good linux support?
[22:48] <genii> Also Lenovo is offering 10% off this week on Carbons
[22:50] <ran_> hi. do you know about a network problem, so websites suddenly not loading until reconnecting the network connection?
[22:50] <xxxx> wait
[22:51] <xxxx> what is this, i wupposed to download something for twitter
[22:51] <xxxx> s*
[22:52] <OerHeks> xxxx irc has no 140 char limit
[22:52] <MarcoP> is there a way to uninstall completely an application that I manually uninstalled because synaptic package manager could not uninstall by way of removing it from the package list and deleting some files..
[22:52] <MarcoP> I am still seeing the name in searching and application lists
[22:52] <nacc> MarcoP: what do you mean by 'manually installed' ?
[22:53] <MarcoP> well I removed the name from the package list cause I was getting an error
[22:53] <MarcoP> and I searched for some files and deleted some of those...
[22:53] <ikonia> how did you install it
[22:53] <ikonia> how did you remove it
[22:53] <xangua> MarcoP: that's not the way
[22:53] <MarcoP> so what is the way?
[22:53] <ikonia> how did you install it
[22:53] <ikonia> how did you remove it
[22:53] <MarcoP> synaptic package manager would not uninstall it
[22:54] <ikonia> you said that
[22:54] <ikonia> how did you install it
[22:54] <ikonia> how did you remove it
[22:54] <MarcoP> ikonia, i just described how i tried to remove it
[22:54] <ikonia> how did you install it
[22:54] <ikonia> how did you remove it
[22:54] <xxxx> ok, so to be clear is for ubuntu purposes??
[22:54] <ikonia> you've not answered either of those two questions
[22:54] <MarcoP> are you trolling?
[22:54] <OerHeks> MarcoP, maybe tell us what application ?
[22:54] <tgm4883> MarcoP: how did you originally install it?
[22:54] <ikonia> xxxx: ubuntu support
[22:54] <MarcoP> frudo is the application
[22:54] <xxxx> thnks ikonia
[22:55] <ikonia> !guidelines | xxxx
[22:55] <ikonia> xxxx: have a read of that link from ubottu
[22:55] <MarcoP> i installed one way with wgedit or whatever the name is and dpgk command
[22:55] <tgm4883> MarcoP: did you follow some guide to install?
[22:55] <MarcoP> hang on looking for link
[22:56] <ran_> hi. do you know about a network problem, so websites suddenly not loading until reconnecting the network connection?
[22:56] <ikonia> ran_: no
[22:56] <MarcoP> one way I tried was this https://www.maketecheasier.com/fruho-vpn-tool-linux/
[22:58] <MarcoP> so how do I completely get rid of it since we got the installation procedure out of the way :)
[22:58] <ikonia> MarcoP: so you need to use dpkg to remove the package
[22:58] <tgm4883> MarcoP: what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep fruho'
[22:58] <MarcoP> hang on let me try
[22:59] <MarcoP> no output
[22:59] <ran_> in 16.04 there was a network bug that made all kinds of problems, maybe this bug is still in 16.10
[23:00] <MarcoP> but the icon still shows when I do a search with the button on the top left as well as certain application lists
[23:00] <tgm4883> MarcoP: you said "One way I tried...." Did you try multiple guides?
[23:01] <Prutheus> Hello! I have a problem on my dell xps 13 9360. I have a little screen freeze every ~10 secs, on hdmi display via D3100 docking station, via usb-c-to-hdmi and on the laptop screen. Everytime it lags, I get an message in my journal: http://ix.io/1G79 what could raise this error? how could i fix it? (btw, maybe it is useful to know, that when the docking station is connected, my laptop screen is getting
[23:01] <Prutheus> dark/disabled after some little time, the brightness get zero'ed)
[23:02] <MarcoP> tgm4883, I also tried the .deb file https://fruho.com/download
[23:02] <MarcoP> none of them installed correctly for some reason
[23:02] <tgm4883> MarcoP: ok, anything else?
[23:03] <MarcoP> I did not try any other ways
[23:03] <poco_> so I have a USB-Ethernet adapter and while it's showing under ifconfig "enx..." my network settings says that the cable is unplugged. Anyone know the commands to see if I can use it for my default network connection?
[23:04] <MarcoP> how do i remove it completely?
[23:05] <ikonia> it's gone if you removed the package
[23:05] <MarcoP> i still the icon on a search does that matter?
[23:05] <MarcoP> is there a place where the icons are located?
[23:06] <tgm4883> MarcoP: do you have a /usr/share/applications/fruho.desktop file?
[23:06] <MarcoP> i just found it
[23:06] <MarcoP> lol
[23:06] <MarcoP> I thought I had searched for it before
[23:07] <OerHeks> with this command you can see where all the files go and are named > dpkg-deb -c fruho_0.0.23_amd64.deb
[23:07] <tgm4883> it bothers me that they are packaging files for install into /usr/local
[23:09] <ikonia> it just looks like a pile of mess
[23:09] <ikonia> read the webpage, it's not even put together well
[23:14] <brokenWindowPrin> Good Day, I just found a bug in 2 packages of Ubuntu
[23:15] <brokenWindowPrin> db-util includes a symlink /usr/bin/db_sql which is supposed to link to /usr/bin/db5-3_sql  from db5.3-util but dpkg -L shows that db5.3-util is not containing db5.3_sql
[23:15] <nacc> !bug | brokenWindowPrin
[23:16] <Mobutils> Question, just did a dist-upgrade on a box. Afterwhich my nginx service has been masked and not starting.
[23:16] <Mobutils> Thoughts on how to fix?
[23:17] <brokenWindowPrin> nacc, mate, lets be frank here, I am reporting this problem because i am toying around with ubuntu, I gave you all the information, I am not interested in creating yet another account, so you can save yourselfs your nosy attitude take the information or leave it
[23:17] <nacc> brokenWindowPrin: wow, I will leave it.
[23:18] <`{^v^}> how helpful and polite...
[23:19] <SpeccyMan> some folks need more laxatives in their lives lol
[23:21] <tgm4883> nacc: also, he is wrong. That isn't a bug
[23:21] <mocxzwp> heloo
[23:21] <mocxzwp> how are you guys
[23:27] <xxxx> install a week ago ubuntu 16.04 lts, now 16.1, i have a (cheap)64bit acer but with 2RAM, so i fix some problems installing a 32-bit ubuntu, the thing is.. cannot turn off or reboot (Ubntu logo freezes) at least y force-it and i'm afraid in a wile just break..
[23:29] <xxxx> ..only when i force-it.. * (my mistake)
[23:30] <rommel> xxxx, uh it should work out of the box, but why not install 64bit
[23:32] <xxxx> doesn't work 64bit well with less than 4RAM
[23:33] <xxxx> i read some days ago that 64bit are made for 4RAM or more, and 32 are for use less than 4RAM..
[23:33] <rommel> well i instaled on a macbook-pro with 2gbs of rm and it was fine
[23:34] <rommel> but i dont know.. was just wanting to get rid of os x
[23:37] <xxxx> and i'm get rid of win7 but i think the computer just don't have in off or maybe some driver, i have a week in linux, don't know how to chek that beside apt-get
[23:37] <nacc> tgm4883: fair enough :)
[23:38] <keviv> How can I reset a user password if I can only mount a separate installation's disk on another computer? Unfortunately it's a different architecture so I can't just chroot
[23:42] <zanakyn> hey all; i'm trying to ssh with x forwarding from a raspberry pi to my main (ubuntu) desktop. some apps just crash flat out, but others open windows on the pi just fine. I'd really like to get Firefox and evince (pdf reader) to work. i'm pretty new to x-forwarding though
[23:42] <zanakyn> is there a way to just launch a desktop instance through ssh and just have it forward to my pi?
[23:45] <keviv> zanakyn: It's been a while but I think what I used to do when I logged into my university's servers (I needed to use a few graphical applications so I found it easier than launching individual programs from a terminal)
[23:45] <keviv> sudo startx
[23:45] <keviv> su zanakyn
[23:45] <keviv> ssh -X ubuntu_host
[23:46] <keviv> gnome_session
[23:46] <Ben64> that's all kinds of wrong
[23:46] <keviv> Yeah?
[23:46] <keviv> Again, it's been a while
[23:46] <keviv> s/gnome_session/gnome-session
[23:46] <zanakyn> i used ssh -X (connection details) gnome-session however it just sits at the terminal and launches nothing
[23:47] <zanakyn> this is from an x-session on the pi, not just a terminal with no display fyi
[23:47] <Ben64> zanakyn: why don't you run whatever you want on the pi
[23:47] <zanakyn> slow browsing, slow pdf reading basically
[23:47] <zanakyn> i can; just trying to take advantage of my other machine while i'm local to it
[23:48] <Ben64> x forwarding is slow
[23:48] <zanakyn> x forwarding from my gaming pc is going to be a lot faster than a 1ghz armv7 w/ 1gb ram
[23:48] <keviv> Why no use your gaming pc locally?
[23:48] <zanakyn> its in use by my wife who has to do homework all night :P
[23:49] <luketheduke1> I could never get x11 forwarding to work very well for video games
[23:49] <rexwin_> I added this line sudo visudo file username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL and still get the prompt to enter my password .
[23:49] <rexwin_> this is not my requirement as I have to run the sudo command without entering the password
[23:49] <Ben64> zanakyn: i don't think you understand how x forwarding works
[23:49] <luketheduke1> I've heard ssh compression helps a lot with X11 forwarding, but I haven't tried it yet
[23:49] <zanakyn> Ben64 right, i did say im new to the whole thing after all
[23:50] <zanakyn> but im not trying to game. i just want to use firefox from the desktop and a pdf reader, if possible
[23:50] <rexwin_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/147241/execute-sudo-without-password
[23:50] <luketheduke1> zanakyn, that'll work
[23:50] <Ben64> it'd be faster to do it locally
[23:50] <Ben64> or use vnc
[23:50] <luketheduke1> or sshfs
[23:50] <luketheduke1> I love sshfs
[23:50] <zanakyn> sshfs mounts the filesystem locally from a remote source?
[23:50] <luketheduke1> yup
[23:51] <zanakyn> eh, doesnt work for my use. im on the slow machine sshing to the fast one. i'd like to run an app on the remote machine and forward it to this raspberry pi
[23:51] <Ben64> vnc then
[23:51] <luketheduke1> or x11 forwarding
[23:51] <luketheduke1> VNC isn't much faster IME
[23:51] <zanakyn> x11 forwarding is exactly what im trying to set up. i was wondering if i can just launch an actual desktop session over ssh -X, but it doesnt seem to work
[23:52] <gunakkoc> hello, how can I create a live iso from my current ubuntu with some extra packges installed and with files
[23:52] <gunakkoc> ??
[23:52] <zanakyn> additionally, firefox fails to launch and so does evince
[23:52] <luketheduke1> zanakyn, you have to specify an app to open, eg ssh -X 192.168.0.2; gedit
[23:52] <keviv> luketheduke1: ";" ?
[23:52] <Ben64> again, you want vnc
[23:52] <luketheduke1> keviv, it's just to show that they are two different commands
[23:53] <luketheduke1> Open a command line with ssh -X 192.168.0.2, then enter gedit
[23:53] <keviv> luketheduke1: or just take out the ;
[23:53] <luketheduke1> keviv, or just put in the ;
[23:53] <zanakyn> oh derp. so when the terminal was waiting, it was asking me for the app to open?
[23:53] <zanakyn> sec
[23:54] <rexwin_> how many times does sudo not require a password after entering it for the command?
[23:54] <keviv> luketheduke1: a literal semicolon would execute gedit after ssh exits? If you put it after the connection information it'll run that one program remotely
[23:54] <luketheduke1> rexwin_, I think it's more determined by time than by number of uses
[23:54] <luketheduke1> keviv, cool
[23:54] <rexwin_> how much time?
[23:54] <zanakyn> output from firefox over ssh -X : ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 2513
[23:54] <zanakyn> ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
[23:54] <zanakyn> ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...
[23:55] <Ben64> zanakyn: vnc is what you want
[23:55] <zanakyn> keviv yeah i tried to run firefox like you were saying
[23:56] <keviv> Ben64: what was wrong with what I did exactly? I can't remember exactly what I used to do, but it was something like that
[23:56] <keviv> iirc they didn't have a vnc server
[23:56] <zanakyn> im not sure on the pi support for vnc, but i'll take a look. i was hoping to use ssh -X with minimal setup, though
[23:56] <luketheduke1> rexwin_, http://lifehacker.com/make-sudo-sessions-last-longer-in-linux-1221545774
[23:56] <zanakyn> i can launch some x apps just fine, so i know its working. i just think im missing something with firefox and evince specifically
[23:56] <Ben64> zanakyn: vnc runs on everything
[23:56] <keviv> zanakyn: if you can install a vnc server on the target machine, it's pretty simple to use
[23:57] <luketheduke1> Apparently the default is 15 minutes rexwin_
[23:57] <luketheduke1> gentoo runs on anything too, but it's a PITA
[23:58] <keviv> How can I reset a user password if I can only mount a separate installation's disk on another computer? Unfortunately it's a different architecture so I can't just chroot
[23:59] <keviv> s/a separate/the
[23:59] <Ben64> keviv: edit /etc/shadow
[23:59] <keviv> Ben64: Yeah but how to generate the right hash?