[00:00] TomyWork: bah, i think it's because i built against a -proposed version; i just updated the ppa's deps, let's see what hpapens [00:06] I have mysql starting automatically after boot, but I want it not to start. ubuntu 14.04 what to do? [00:06] hi to all [00:06] I have a problem booting on this system, Grub says no suitable video mode found, and it's booting in blind mode [00:07] (and nothing seems to be happening after that) [00:10] skaag1: Try booting with the nomodeset boot parameter . what now results ? [00:10] rexwin_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services#19324 [00:10] i have a question on installing ubuntu. fedora was partitiond my hdd and now i want to install ubuntu.i want /home fedora partion as ubuntu home.if i select mount point and don't check format this partition all files will kept or not? [sorry 4 bad english] [00:11] abbas, Ubuntu may overwrite certain files. I wouldn't recommend using a Fedora homedir for Ubuntu, anyway. Config files will be missing === Liz is now known as Guest82511 [00:13] thanks lordcirth. === screedoz is now known as screedo [00:23] nacc at least i now know which command lines were used during the build :) [00:26] TomyWork: true :) [00:27] Bashing-om: I tried nomodeset instead of quite nosplash and it was the same [00:27] instead of "quiet nosplash" [00:30] Does anyone know a backup utility that has a GUI for telling you it's working, etc, but can also be easily managed by editing a .conf file? [00:34] skaag: Next step down to try and boot . boot from grub . Is this a EFI machine ? [00:37] It is an EFI machine, I do boot from the USB stick and get to the grub menu, but that's all I can do [00:38] skaag: Well, I have no experience with EFI . others will have to advise . Do you mean though that booting with the USB is intentional ? [00:40] I have no other option… no cdrom or anything else on that machine [00:40] It does have some Windows something from some company called Microsoft [00:41] looks weird [00:42] Hi I am an oldskool N00b, I havn't been on IRC in 15 years. :) [00:43] ben24792: I've been on IRC non-stop for the last 25+ years… same underwear even. [00:44] Well they do become a part of you.. (both IRC and underwear) [00:44] I am glad there are still people in here. [00:45] I think this is a bit offtopic [00:45] skaag: Booted up In that liveUSB, show the channel the output -in a pastebin - if terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' . We see what we have to work with . [00:46] true, who is having a linux problem? Perhaps I can help. [00:46] s/if/of * [00:47] ben24792, don't worry, someone will ask soon enough [00:47] ben24792: that's not really how the channel works. If you want to help, wait for someone to come in and ask for help. [00:48] ah, been a while. OK, I will see if anything pops up I can lend a hand with [00:48] ben24792: you know anything about lxde by chance? [00:49] Bashing-om: I am not getting to a shell - in Grub I press 'e' to edit the entry, I put 'nomodeset' instead of 'quiet nosplash' and it says "booting in blind mode". It's stuck there. I tried leaving it there for a while, but nothing happens. [00:52] skaag1: Are we talking about booting up an actual install on the hard drive .. or trying to boot a USB ? [00:52] the grub menu gives me both options, it's the "Ubuntu 16.04 live" image. I can either install ubuntu, or try it out without installing. Both behave the same. [00:52] hm, i just contacted the ppl from support, hosting company, and they say i have to partion the hdds while running. is this possible? [00:54] I think you can with gparted but do you only have one physical disk or several? [00:55] skaag1: Reboot the liveISB, escape key to get the boot options scren, escape key again to accept the default language -> boot patameters screen . F6 key and choose 'nomodeset' . what results ? [00:55] nacc looks like it's just apt-get source $package && apt-get build-dep $package && cd "$package"-*/ && fakeroot debian/rules binary [00:55] freakyy: as long as it's a 2nd drive or a 2nd partition, sure [00:56] Bashing-om: I already tried the nomodeset [00:57] skaag1: Did you verify the .iso file download ? did you verify the copy to USB ? [00:57] TomyWork: yes, that should work [00:57] I'll try all of this again tomorrow with a different image, and a different usb stick [00:57] maybe it's damaged [00:58] !md5sum | skaag1 [00:58] skaag1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM [00:58] quit [00:58] lol [00:59] nacc from the logs i'm projecting that i'm not nearly done, so i guess i'll go home now :) [01:03] 9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~ [01:11] skaag1: with what tool should i partition? and if i wanna replace /var with one of the partitions how do i do that? i mean ... do i have to cp -R /var ./varbackup and then mount the hdd partition to /var and then move stuff in again? [01:12] Ey guys, I am kind of confuse with APT. Has any sense use Aptitude as a command line? in this case is not the same as if I were using apt?. [01:12] Thanks. [01:14] !aptitude | David_FC [01:14] David_FC: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see http://pad.lv/831768 for more information. [01:18] Hi ubottu , thanks. So is not advisable use aptitude (neither front end or command line)?. Use apt is better? [01:25] David_FC: Use the tools that work best for you . aptitude and apt are both front ends to the package management system . [01:27] thanks Bashing-om . Last question. Does not make conflicts use apt as command line but synaptic as interface sometimes? [01:28] David_FC: Nope, no conflicts so long as only one is active at any given time . http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=104157 <- tutorial on package management ; https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude . [01:30] Bashing-om, ubottu krytarik thank you so much for your orientation. I really appreciate it. [01:31] David_FC: :) There will come a time that you "pass it on " . [01:39] hello, i cant send files when i use xchat on ubuntu but i can on win, why this happens? [01:40] does ubuntu uses any firewall or something? [01:42] hi [01:43] I get this erro message while entering a PPA https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23493434/ [01:44] hi guys, i accidentally disabled my touchpad (ubuntu 16.04), i tried the steps here http://askubuntu.com/questions/159397/how-to-enable-touchpad with no luck [01:45] I'm new to Ubuntu, so I cannot help, but maybe you can check a way to reload touchpad following your PC type [01:45] how do you do that [01:45] like typing your PC type into a browser search and how to load touchpad [01:46] write the type of your computer into google and add something like "how to load touchpad" [01:46] peyam: Which PPA and how are you attempting to access ? [01:47] john1231234, fwiw, xchat is no longer being developed. recommend these days is it's replacement hexchat (in the repo's) don't know anything about it's file transfering capabilities though [01:47] hello linux gurus, I am a new ubuntu user. I have a cannon all in one. I am switching from windows to linux as my main working envions. I need to get the printer and scanner installed on ubuntu 14.04 if that works I will need to do it again on 16.04 um any ideas? [01:47] i also tried hexchat [01:48] nvm i alt tabbed back into the touchpad settings, tabbed until the switch was selected and pressed space to reenable it gwahyyr [01:48] so it works now? [01:48] squinty, same happens [01:48] squinty, it has something to do with firewall [01:49] Bashing-om, add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java [01:49] Hello [01:50] I need help! I know nothing about ubuntu [01:51] !book [01:51] Matt_1_fish, just ask the question and someone will help you if they have the time. [01:51] !manual [01:51] The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [01:52] I am a window user from way back and a friend gave me this lap top for my grand daughter. I wanted to use netflix on here for her. [01:52] How do i do that [01:54] peyam: Do not know, should be good : http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu . [01:54] I have the manual now. Thank you [01:55] Matt_1_fish: chrome should be able to display netflix. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html click that link and follow the instructions to install [01:55] matt: I too am a windows user too, since the DOS days. Now I am switching to linux. I do know how to turn a laptop into a linux box you can use for netflix === keith_ is now known as CrazyBebop [01:56] ok, glad i am not alone [01:56] matt: have you installed ubuntu on the laptop? [01:56] yes [01:56] matt: which version? [01:56] 16.4 [01:57] matt: is it running well for you on that HW? [01:58] Yes everything is working but i am not skilled with programing [01:58] and i was told this is a hard system [01:59] I fell like an idiot [01:59] feel [01:59] matt: no worries mate [01:59] What does it mean [01:59] [ -n "${FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE}" ] [02:00] Matt_1_fish: It is point and click , then it only gets as hard as you want it too . [02:00] it's a learning process....just the same process as back in the dos days [02:00] Matt_1_fish: not hard at all. Click the link I sent you, click the Download button. That will download and install the Google Chrome browser. And with that you can log into netflix and watch. [02:00] i was good with dos back in the day. lo [02:00] Matt_1_fish, "day at a time" applies to linux too :-) [02:01] [ -n "${FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE}" ] --- what does it mean ? [02:01] ok All, thank you for the help i will be back on and let you all now how the link went [02:01] matt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760085/how-do-you-install-google-chrome-on-ubuntu-16-04#760452 [02:02] dn: that is "true" (exit code 0) if the variable $FROM_SINGLE_USER_MODE is not empty. [02:02] Hi all I want to make it so I can call $ avrdude in any new terminal and have it point to this instance of avrdude buried in my system. How do? [02:02] I was thinking editing $PATH but that doesnt seem to work [02:03] matt: ctrl-alt-t to open terminal. Which is like good ol CMD .. This is called bash. cut and paste the commands from the URL [02:03] is there a command to completely remove a package? [02:04] wedgie thx [02:04] pacovc: apt-get purge [02:04] nice thanks [02:05] pacovc: 'sudo apt purge " no package manager will remove mess about in your own /home . [02:06] matt: after you have installed the chrome browser program, click on the icon in the top left corner, this is called the ubuntu dash, (like the start menu in winblows) just type in chrome and then click on it to run. [02:08] matt: you can also right click on the chrome icon once it is on the dock (or toolbar in winblows terms) and click "lock to launcher" which will keep the program stuck there for future access [02:22] zzz [02:24] matt: any joy? === hamish_ is now known as Guest97552 [02:29] I know I can install a generic CUPS driver for my canon and that should work for printing, but I am wondering if I can get the ADF, Scanner, and duplex printing out of ubuntu. I am looking up the model number of the printer now [02:33] hi all. i want to make a sw-raid1 ... what is the best tool to partition my hdds? in a terminal? [02:33] !raid [02:33] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [02:34] is btrfs' mirroring stable/safe yet? [02:34] nope [02:34] wedgie, some say it is, i would use zfs [02:35] !btrfs [02:35] Btrfs is a filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is not recommended by default, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs [02:36] exit [02:36] OerHeks: yeah, i've heard some horror stories but know several people who have been using it on their laptops for a few years now with no problems. Some say that for single drives and mirrors it's ok but the raid1-2 equivilents aren't so good [02:36] oh well. Guess i'll keep waiting [02:37] btrfs is stagnant [02:38] i want so badly for it to be ready. All the good parts of zfs without the licensing headaches for linux AND the flexibility to add drives and change raid levels on the fly and such. But none of that is worthwhile if it eats your data [02:38] hard to tell, which user cases are safe, hw raid or just a jbod [02:38] OerHeks, well that only gives help for on installation. i need while running - the ssds are already swraid1 an have the os now i put in 2 hdds - i need to partition those whats the best tool [02:39] for cli, parted i guess [02:42] I use ZFS in a sw raidz1 on my freeBSD system, and it works very well. I have not tried sw raid on ubuntu [02:44] my Canon MX870 series - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.10-pre2 was installed, I will do some more googling to see if I can find a useful scan util. === kbdkode is now known as koffeekbd [02:51] OerHeks, ok thanks [03:03] http://pastebin.com/GkkDy5UE on ubuntu 14.04 [03:07] evening all. I'm struggling with an rsyslog issue. Trying to get an app (nova-api) to push logs through rsyslog. Got it to it, but it's reporting it's app-name as '2017-11-17'. Any pointers as to where I might look to configure that? [03:16] hello -strage problem on Ubuntu 16.10. I'm not sure it is Ubuntu's fault, but maybe someone has run into it before -- On the wifi network at my job, Ubuntu periodically loses the ability to resolve DNS names. It will be connected for 5-10 minutes, and then every program on the system just can't lookup anything. However, the command "nslookup" still works. [03:38] hi all i have a problem. there were 2 hdds put into my server, which i partitioned before. but now i need to repartition them but they are mounted as swraid1 under names i cant unmount: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23493759/ [03:38] can someone help me? :) [03:44] oh nm i needed to stop the raid array [03:44] not unmount it [03:44] ;D [03:57] hi :) [04:07] well setting up a printer and scanner on ubuntu is now something else I might be able to help others with. :) [04:09] I didn't see anything from Matt on his issue. I hope he got it solved. [04:09] good evening. i have just installed 16.04 64 bit on my toshiba satilite laptop. the wifi does not work. it did on windows. rfkill list shows hard block yes. the switch is in the on position. anyone have some insite? [04:10] why does my cursor suck in ubuntu [04:10] it keeps disappearing and flashing [04:11] Meteor: I know this is going to sound silly, but have you restarted the the system since you installed ubuntu? [04:11] breezy: Is ubuntu installed on a VM? [04:11] yes once after installing updates [04:11] hi all. why cant i create a raid array here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23493860/ [04:12] ben24792: no it isnt [04:12] for the most part its okay, but when i go to certain windows it just disappears [04:12] is there a particular reason ubuntu likes to be a pain when deleting files even in root? [04:13] fixed it [04:14] meteor: still no wifi? I did have wifi issues on a ubuntu 16.04 install and I restarted it and that solved the problem. Beyond that, I am afraid I can not help. Most of my ubuntu experience is with desktops [04:14] never mind I got it deleted === root is now known as Guest54796 [04:16] breezy: It sounds like a display driver issue. have you tried installing additional drivers tab in the settings>software & updates. [04:16] thanks this is my third laptop the other two where running mint with no problems now this one has this wifi issue. i think its a toshiba thing as the last one had the same wireless card [04:17] breezy: sometimes it picks up display drivers that you can install. [04:18] meteor: Sorry I couldn't help I wonder if ubuntu forums might have some scriptfoo for toshiba wifi [04:19] I am off to bed, thanks for the help today guys. [04:21] ill search the forums tomorrow, thanks [04:23] hello === uhhf1 is now known as uhhf [04:30] Sould i scrap the idea of getting the lenovo ideadpad 100s, because of the linux support (http://askubuntu.com/questions/815301/can-ubuntu-be-installed-on-an-ideapad-100s-atom-laptop) [04:31] or has it been resolved with the atom now [04:36] Is tehre a way in screen to identify which window split I'm curently using? [04:46] hello can anyone help me get the touchscreen working on 16.04 === cigumo_ is now known as cigumo [04:50] MuffinMedic: try using byobu. makes it easier to see the splits. i think on ubuntu it defaults to tmux but it can alo use screen. [04:56] Hi Everyone [04:56] Weird code after update about an ignored file. Any suggestions? cash@cash-MacBook:~$ sudo apt autoremove [04:56] [sudo] password for cash: [04:56] Reading package lists... Done [04:56] Building dependency tree [04:56] Reading state information... Done === JanC_ is now known as JanC [05:12] can I get a bit of advice please? I'm going to remove windows from my pc and install ubuntu but I can't decide whether to use 16.04 or 16.10 [05:13] (I'm pretty experienced with debian so I mostly know what I'm doing) [05:13] when in doubt, go with what's current is my philosophy. [05:13] 16.04 is LTS though [05:13] well yeah [05:13] After upgrading to every point release for years, I stick with LTS unless specific reason not to [05:14] what made you change to doing that, Paul5? [05:14] can expect a few gotchas that take some digging and hacking, not much and not bad, but cumulatively annoying [05:17] ok cheers for the advice [05:17] I think I'll go with 16.04... should be easy enough to upgrade if I change my mind anyway [05:17] easier than going backwards :P [05:17] yep. === iczero is now known as wlp1s1 === for{} is now known as MergInResita [05:26] nickserv identify radicals8 [05:26] better change it now [05:26] protip: you can set your nickserv password as the server password in most irc clients [05:40] omg i now run an ubuntu server ^^ [05:40] what is better with ubuntu server than debian? [05:41] !server | freakyy, [05:41] freakyy,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server [05:57] how do i let a user run a program that listens to port 80? [05:57] im on 16.04 [06:03] wc === zippy is now known as Guest14797 [06:08] hello [06:12] Drone`, :D === wlp1s1 is now known as iczero === iczero is now known as wlp1s1 [06:39] I have a user that cannot start an application on port 80 on ubuntu, whereas i as root can do it [06:39] 16.04 [06:40] DataAdmin: Yes, that is by design [06:40] DataAdmin: Only root can use ports 1-1024 [06:40] oh ok. [06:41] So web apps should be run as root then? [06:42] DataAdmin: Maybe if you tell us what you're actually trying to do you can get a suitable answer [06:43] let a user start a webserver on port 80 [06:43] by default something like apache runs as a restricted user, but the service itself is started by root [06:43] ...and i dont want him to run apache [06:43] he has his own webserver [06:45] I know i could start apps on my ubuntu desktop 14.04 [06:46] ...on port 80 as non root [06:48] DataAdmin: no, I'm pretty sure you couldn't do that === iczero is now known as wlp1s1 [06:49] not without some customization anyway [06:49] DataAdmin: Maybe if you modified the kernel to allow such a thing to happen [06:49] you are right [06:49] i was misstaken [06:53] Anyone performing unattended installs with dnsmasq, tftp, grub2? [06:57] hi [06:57] hi [07:15] how do I disable root login to mysql without password? On Ubuntu 16 [07:17] acosonic: set a password for the root user? [07:19] tgm4883 already tried that, does not work [07:20] hm, done... [07:20] acosonic: hmm. That root login only works from the local box? not across the network right? [07:21] this fixed it [07:21] mysqladmin -u root -h localhost password ws8dr8as3 [07:22] followed by mysql restart === MergInResita is now known as MaDucInResita === geek is now known as Guest64522 [08:04] hello === ross is now known as robo220 [08:04] How are you? [08:04] Hiya [08:12] unable to connect to python [08:12] wrong irc [08:12] sorry === gusnan_ is now known as gusnan [08:13] hullo === MaDucInResita is now known as YouAreSleeping === jatt is now known as Guest23637 [08:43] hello [08:43] can i run android app under ubuntu somehow? [08:44] hi === nikhil_ is now known as Guest64139 === lte is now known as Guest96704 [08:55] So, I have a new IP in my area and they use http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/zm-tel/product-detailZKInmvDJOTrk/China-4G-Modem-Lte-450MHz-Ba... This modem does not support AC so I was thinking about getting http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-5032_Archer-MR200.html If I were the open the modem they gave me and take out the sim card ( if there is one) Would it work in the new router? This Chinese router just sucks an [09:01] ubuntu mate for powerpc is a blessing! Not at all as slow as I expected on an iMac G4. [09:09] #wordpress [09:18] hi h [09:18] hi [09:18] anyone here now ? [09:19] is there an official ubuntu version which comes with openbox? === joel_ is now known as Guest30544 [09:19] . [09:20] Does someone have an idea, how I can block htop from opening every time I log in to my server (16.10) via SSH? Also if I open new window or pane in tmux, htop does pop up right away. [09:22] htop should not open by default [09:22] you have done something (put it in your profile for example) to make that happen [09:22] I just installed from htop and it started to happen. [09:22] unlikely [09:23] I meant installed from apt. [09:23] Maybe you already had that in your .profile, and it didn't launch because htop wasn't there, and it started launching once you installed it [09:23] why kvm dose not work on ubuntu 14.04 when kalli is installed on that ? [09:23] mmc: kali is an OS - you don't install an OS on an OS === for{} is now known as _0xdeadface [09:23] or do you mean when you run a kali VM guest [09:24] hatiac: look at your shell profile [09:24] I checked from my .profile, but there's nothing about htop [09:24] ikonia : i know , i installed kali in kvm virtual machine [09:24] hatiac: what about the system level profile? [09:25] i have another problem [09:25] i do not know why my root space is full [09:25] hatiac: .profile is not the file [09:25] hatiac: .bash_profile and .bashrc [09:25] mmc: look at what's eating your space [09:25] i looked [09:25] mmc: ok - and what's eating your space ? [09:25] but couldnt understand [09:26] Clearly not hard enough [09:26] just to be clear, you think you can run virtual machines - but you don't know how to manage / look at your file system locally ? [09:26] ikonia: Also checked those, no htop found. [09:26] hatiac: going to have to walk through the profiles and your start up routine for your shell then [09:26] PS4='+ $BASH_SOURCE:$LINENO:' bash -xlic '' [09:26] hatiac: htop is just a binary it will not start by default [09:26] ikonia : you are right but it is very weired [09:26] mmc: pastebin the output of df -h please [09:27] should show where htop is started [09:27] geirha: thats an nice idea, very nice [09:27] ikonia: Yeah, that's why I don't understand why it's starting automatically after installing it for the first time. === silvio is now known as Guest17921 === tom is now known as Guest39401 [09:37] what sort of issues wouldi encounter with a 64 bit system installed with only 2 gigs ram? [09:37] glitchd: none [09:39] hateball, well i just installed 64 bit xubuntu on my older hp desktop, and what ive noticed is that its very slow and laggy. im not sure if its just because i only have 2 gigs ram on the system or because im using a 64 bit os [09:39] or [09:39] if its because its pure xubuntu instead of my standard install of ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop added [09:40] some say the 2 variations are basically the same but i find that when i have ubuntu with the xubuntu desktop it performs so much better. [09:41] Retired HEAD OF FBI Tells ALL "Illuminati, Satanism, Pedophile Rings" ----------------> please listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU [09:41] glitchd: Are you maxing out your 2GB ram? "slow and laggy" is not very helpful [09:41] glitchd: is the CPU being maxed out by some process? Do you experience "lag" in the UI due to poor GPU? [09:43] hateball, well for starters, when i try to update from terminal it hangs for up to 30 seconds before giving any feedback that its working. programs take a considerable amount of time to open/operate, and the overall feel of the system is very sluggish. [09:44] hateball, i had 32 bit installed yesterday and it seemed to perform loads better, nothing really hung unless i opened alot of browsers or windows [09:45] i was lead to believe that the pae kernel included by default in the 64 bit installs would perform as good as the 32 bit counterpart with the same amount of ram [09:45] hateball, ^^ [09:46] glitchd: what's the output of "free -m" ? [09:46] glitchd: Sounds to me like the slowness is from disk based activities [09:47] glitchd: your observations sound unrelated to the 32/64 bit architecture. Check for other causes, like e.g. the 30 seconds timeout may suggest a failed dns lookup. [09:47] i was lead to believe that the pae kernel included by default in the 64 bit installs would perform as good as the 32 bit counterpart with the same amount of ram [09:47] oops.. [09:48] hateball, http://pastebin.com/wUv3Viaj [09:49] hateball, im not on the system im speaking of, its next to me tho [09:49] I wonder why your system is swapping while you have 800mb free memory [09:50] If you have a slow HDD, I'd at least start by lowering vm.swappiness [09:50] It might have swapped a while ago when he was using more memory [09:51] hateball, swappiness is set like this cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness [09:51] 10 [09:51] *set to this [09:51] alkisg: fair point [09:53] Anyhow, there is a slight memory overhead using 64bit compared to 32bit, and perhaps that causes you to swap more frequently [09:53] hateball, alkisg are you suggesting that i changed the swap factor to higher than 10? [09:53] glitchd: Lower is "better" if you want to swap less [09:53] glitchd: no, i suggest that you don't touch swappiness at all [09:53] hateball, thats what i thought too [09:53] glitchd: I also suggest that you find some lag that is reproducible, and at that point of the lag, check cpu, ram etc [09:54] alkisg, so just unmount swap completely? [09:54] No, leave the defaults [09:54] is there an official ubuntu version which comes with openbox? [09:54] why would you unmount swap ? [09:54] if its using swap it's because it needs it [09:54] so removing it seems bad [09:54] ikonia, sry i didnt meant unmount swap, i meant more like turn off swap [09:55] alkisg, everything lags. everything. [09:55] glitchd: the defaults are to have swap, and to have swappiness=60. Leave it to that. [09:55] why [09:55] glitchd: why would you do that [09:55] alkisg, ok ill change it back and see if there is a diff [09:55] or better question, if I wanted openbox what would be the best way of getting that with ubuntu and nothing else? [09:55] glitchd: if it's using swap too much - its because it needs to swap [09:55] !minimal | Kingsy [09:55] Kingsy: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD === TeKKiE_AFK is now known as TeKKiE [09:56] glitchd: so, when you login to your desktop environment, and open an xterm, and move it around, it lags? [09:56] need for what [09:56] thankyou [09:59] alkisg, no, but if i open a brower, it lags to open, if i open more than 1 window it lags. like i said, it lags to do anything. im not expecting lightning performance, just really thinking it should be going faster than it is [10:01] glitchd: if you open the browser with no other apps open, and with no tabs at all, (a) on i386, and (b) on amd64, you see a performance difference? You shouldn't. If you do, measure the time needed and file a bug report. [10:01] alkisg, in that instance, no it doesnt lag to drag it around the screen, but if i have more than 1 open, yes it does lag [10:03] glitchd: then it sounds like your ram is getting excausted. Login, run "top" in a terminal, then check if swap is used. It shouldn't. Then start openining the browser and tabs etc, and if you see the swap getting used, it's due to low ram. [10:03] alkisg, i just changed swappiness back to the default of 60 [10:04] glitchd: what is the spec of your machien [10:04] alkisg, ill open top right now and watch it for a minute [10:04] hi all [10:05] in Terminal commmand line, Ctrl +A make cursor go to the first letter of the line. what about going to last letter? which command? [10:05] ctrl+E? [10:11] Hi all, I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. After installing virtualbox my ubuntu doesn't recognize available resolutions, I *think* this might have something todo with virtualbox hooking into the kernel and some stuff being reconfigured, but I'm clueless how to go about getting my initial display mode list back. xrandr only shows my maximum available resollution (4k) and some low resolutions, but not the resolutions in between [10:12] Is there some command I can run to 'rescan' all the avialable resolutions? Instead of manually adding them all? [10:13] I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail [10:13] Googling only shows adding resolutions to xrandr by hand [10:13] melleb: put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin [10:14] alkisg: http://pastebin.com/A1qpW6Tu [10:16] melleb: were you using the nvidia module, or nouveau, before vbox? [10:16] nvidia [10:16] alkisg: nvidia [10:17] melleb: contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [10:17] alkisg: Tried purge + reinstall of nvidia-367 and nvidia-prime [10:18] alkisg: http://pastebin.com/bC9a4Lpn [10:20] ikonia, sorry its taking forever to uploade the picture [10:23] alkisg, im still trying to upkload the picture [10:34] ikonia, im still trying to find something to compile all the specs for me because im not completely sure about what they are, but nothing is working for me [10:38] welp this is proving to be fruitless. im just gonna reinstall a 32 bit distro and be done with it. thx for the help everyone, much appreciated. [10:41] glitchd: unlikely to make an appreciable difference [10:41] Hiyas all [10:42] Ben64, i had the same distro but the 32 bit varient install right before i put 64 bit on there, it did perform better. it didnt hang over everything [10:42] could be in your head, could be unrelated to architecture [10:43] true enough [10:43] im sure its not all in my head lol [10:43] for 1 updating was instant, whereas when i update with this install it just hangs at 0% for a good 30 seconds before anything happens [10:44] can anyone plz help me to install testdisk? [10:44] Ben64, my other thought was to install ubuntu and the xubuntu desktop, as thats what ive always used [10:44] hattan: sudo apt-get install testdisk [10:44] glitchd: ubuntu will probably be slow on both architectures [10:45] ##join machinelearning [10:45] sry [10:45] Ben64, i have it on the system im using now [10:45] Ben64, its not slow [10:45] Ben64: its giving an error in last as "E: Unable to locate package testdisk [10:45] " [10:45] Ben64, but there are considerable differences between the 2 systems [10:45] with a limited amount of ram it will be [10:45] or a limited gpu [10:46] hattan: what version of ubuntu [10:46] Ben64: 16.04 [10:46] open the software center, go to software sources in the menu, and enable the universe repository [10:46] Ben64, this is the gpu 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) [10:47] yeah i wouldn't run unity on that [10:47] lol i never run unity [10:47] i dont like it [10:47]