[07:17] <ducasse> hi all
[07:19] <Wirehunter> ducasse, Hi
[07:20] <Bashing-om> ducasse: \o
[07:23] <ducasse> \o
[07:25] <ducasse> Bashing-om: seems quiet? to be expected on a weekend morning, i guess...
[07:27] <Bashing-om> Well.. lately been quiet all the time, compared to what It used to be .
[07:28] <ducasse> worse on weekends, though.
[07:29] <Bashing-om> I guess dancing and caroussing about is more pressing to folks than tweak'n 'buntu .
[07:30] <ducasse> tsk, tsk... a "life", i think they call it...
[07:31] <Bashing-om> HUh .. more life than feeding 'buntu ?
[07:32] <ducasse> who knows, i don't have one :)
[07:37] <Bashing-om> Well, I get ajatated when real life interfers with my virtual life, ( and all it takes to support that virtual life ). Now if I wanted it different, different it would be .
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:21] <ducasse> \o BluesKaj
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hey ducasse
[14:24] <ducasse> just discovered they're filming ghost in the shell :D
[19:42] <Ben64> i hate people
[19:43] <BluesKaj> what people ?
[19:47] <Ben64> john_s
[19:48] <BluesKaj> heh, cement head
[19:48] <Ben64> i'll never understand why people come to get help, then reject it all
[19:48] <Ben64> no, i want it solved my way!
[20:03] <ducasse> "i don't want it solved, i want to be RIGHT!"
[20:06] <ducasse> if he had actually listened to begin with, maybe we would have gotten somewhere. now he's just discarding suggestions and _still_ claiming we're all wrong...
[20:53] <freakyy> i love ubuntu ;D
[20:53] <freakyy> i just switched my debian server to ubuntu 16.04.1 ;D
[20:58] <daftykins> that's nice
[21:11] <freakyy> (:
[21:11] <daftykins> glad to see that at least LTS is being used
[21:20] <ducasse> \o daftykins, soon off to bed here.
[21:21] <daftykins> ah har
[21:21] <daftykins> 35mph winds buffeting the windows here - and solid rain
[21:21] <daftykins> true wintery night
[21:24] <ducasse> jeeez, some huy is msg'ing me to teach me about islam...
[21:24] <ducasse> *guy
[21:25] <ducasse> too tired for that.
[21:26] <daftykins> XD
[21:31] <ducasse> god, when people ask for instructions and are given them, why do they do something *different* and then doesn't even bother to provide a complete paste?
[21:41] <ducasse> state of apt messed up, lots of ppas, some of them pretty broken, *and* enabled proposed...
[21:42] <daftykins> this is why being banned was a saving grace
[21:42] <daftykins> :>
[21:43] <ducasse> i'm thinking of doing that myself >:-)
[21:44] <ducasse> what a liberating feeling that would be!
[21:45] <daftykins> this is the problem, because even helping out - what does solving some users problem really do in the grand scheme? makes folks depend on coming here to be spoonfed sadly
[21:46] <ducasse> i agree, i prefer other channels where you're allowed to say 'rtfm, dammit!' sometimes
[21:46] <ducasse> but those who don't know how to rtfm also need help
[21:47] <daftykins> perhaps, but if something is on a wiki then i think pasting links is going too far
[21:47] <daftykins> a user who won't lift a finger is not worthy of assistance
[21:48] <OerHeks> ducasse, this john dude has wine issues?
[21:48] <ducasse> i dislike the ones who come in and say 'i have this problem: http://pastebin.com/foobar'. if they cant describe the problem, i don't care.
[21:49] <OerHeks> daftykins, i want to suggest to remove the mouse completely from linux :-D
[21:49] <ducasse> OerHeks: i gave up on him looong ago, he was useless.
[21:49] <ducasse> would *not* listen, even after 1,5 hours of being told the same thing.
[21:52] <daftykins> ducasse: eh a log at least beats "x doesn't work"
[21:53] <daftykins> Bashing-om: \o wb
[21:54] <Bashing-om> I get strapped in here, see what the ride is going to be . Good day to ya daftykins :)
[21:54] <ducasse> daftykins: yes, but they could say "i have this *x* problem:..." - without opening the link i have no idea if i'm likely to be able to help.
[21:55] <ducasse> hiya Bashing-om :)
[21:56] <Bashing-om> ducasse: And to you also a big Hiya, going well for you ?
[21:56] <daftykins> holy moly, some guttering just snapped off a building opposite me in these high winds and smashed down to the lane... it's a piece about 8 feet long
[21:58] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Mother nature raising her head .. We too have been under high winds, So far I have seen no damage .
[21:58] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i'm good, thanks :) just need to order a couple of new yubikeys and pay some bills, then off to bed.
[22:00] <Bashing-om> life; eat, sleep, pay bills - so we can eat and sleep ( and pay for the parts in our systems )  :)
[22:00] <OerHeks> I am looking for a servant.. to walk with drabber, brrrrrrrr
[22:01] <ducasse> OerHeks: did abmares2 ask you also about 'ISLAM'?
[22:03] <OerHeks> not yet, i cannot ban PM individualy on hexchat :-(
[22:03] <OerHeks> he must be moving on to the next one i guess
[22:07] <ducasse> any of you have any experience with arch? thinking of switching my desktop to it.
[22:08] <ducasse> OerHeks: here he goes with the 'tude again...
[22:32] <ducasse> "oh, so since you have told me what to do i'm goig to pretend i was right all along instead of just wasting 3 hours of your time"
[22:33] <ducasse> a**hole. foadiaf.
[22:33] <ducasse> grrrrr....
[22:37] <Bashing-om> Lead a horse to water, if it does not drink, then it is his problem. no ?
[22:41] <ducasse> Bashing-om: this was just ridiculous, though. nvm, i hope he's gone now. i will be soon anyway.
[22:42] <ducasse> Bashing-om: have you used arch?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Not in many years, before my 'buntu time .. and even back then was lightly .
[22:46] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Something ya got going on ya can bounce off me, see what bounces back ?
[22:47] <ducasse> Bashing-om: ok, i'm just looking at it. considering it for my desktop, i sometimes miss something a bit more like slackware (which i 'grew up' with)
[22:50] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well, let me relate my thought . Core install .. ubuntu as the sources list .. and build what you want .. I have been very pleased overall with my results . ( but stuck right for 16.04 getting some desktop access' to work )
[22:51] <ducasse> Bashing-om: sure, that's what have now, but i use a *ton* of stuff that requires manual building on ubuntu but exists in arch repo or aur.
[22:51] <ducasse> *what i have now
[22:53] <Bashing-om> Yukkie then on 'buntu .. I had not realized there were those limitations .
[22:53] <daftykins> arch is for Linux ricers though :D
[22:54] <ducasse> Bashing-om: it's not, normally, i guess i just use a lot of weird stuff :)
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Well .. one can view as this " makes you the better coder " when ya can port the app over !
[22:56] <ducasse> daftykins: not a ricer, #i3 is teeming with them these days. a lot of them *are* on arch, which most of them probably shouldn't be.
[22:57] <Bashing-om> I also know can drive you to drink'n from the frustration of try, code, break - try recode - break .. try try try .
[22:58] <ducasse> Bashing-om: reading up on lisp and python in my spare time, i'm glad i don't code for a living...
[23:00] <daftykins> yeah tiling window managers are also part of the ricer fashion :>
[23:00] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well .. with all I have going on, and the commitments I have .. I can not organized myself now-a-days to learn new code .
[23:01] <ducasse> daftykins: i know, it's pretty sad. there was i guy today who asked how to open all windows as floating and where the control center was...
[23:02] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i have spare time, and i have to use it for _something_. better than watching tv.
[23:14] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Ouch ! You got that right ! .. Here in the US ...TV is more commercials than program .. and the progamming is getting nastier by the day .. I quit TV several years back .. I keep telling my self that one of these days I will learn 'buntu'n .
[23:20] <ducasse> Bashing-om: very restricted how much commercials they are allowed to send here, but i still hate them. and i refuse to watch trash like the kardashians etc. learning more programming seemed like a good idea for something to spend time on, and so far lisp looks very interesting :)
[23:38] <Bashing-om> Well .. What I have learned from learning to program ., sure teaches one to be logical in their thought processes ! Me Am now very far behind the times .. but in my days was 'C' to " do it all " .
[23:41] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i just know the bare basics of c, not going to pick it up again, i think. well, the cat wants me to go to bed so she can sleep in her warm spot - i better obey...
[23:41] <ducasse> good night/day all.
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Nite note ducasse .. rest well .
[23:45] <daftykins> \0
[23:55] <ducasse> oh, and btw - i usually don't care about movies, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUtG93BebJ4
[23:56] <daftykins> yeah, that one is a crime against the original
[23:59] <ducasse> oh, bummer.
[23:59] <ducasse> zZzZ...