[07:17] hi all [07:19] ducasse, Hi [07:20] ducasse: \o [07:23] \o [07:25] Bashing-om: seems quiet? to be expected on a weekend morning, i guess... [07:27] Well.. lately been quiet all the time, compared to what It used to be . [07:28] worse on weekends, though. [07:29] I guess dancing and caroussing about is more pressing to folks than tweak'n 'buntu . [07:30] tsk, tsk... a "life", i think they call it... [07:31] HUh .. more life than feeding 'buntu ? [07:32] who knows, i don't have one :) [07:37] Well, I get ajatated when real life interfers with my virtual life, ( and all it takes to support that virtual life ). Now if I wanted it different, different it would be . [14:20] Hiyas all [14:21] \o BluesKaj [14:23] Hey ducasse [14:24] just discovered they're filming ghost in the shell :D === JanC is now known as Guest13179 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === lordievader is now known as Guest14768 [19:42] i hate people [19:43] what people ? [19:47] john_s [19:48] heh, cement head [19:48] i'll never understand why people come to get help, then reject it all [19:48] no, i want it solved my way! [20:03] "i don't want it solved, i want to be RIGHT!" [20:06] if he had actually listened to begin with, maybe we would have gotten somewhere. now he's just discarding suggestions and _still_ claiming we're all wrong... [20:53] i love ubuntu ;D [20:53] i just switched my debian server to ubuntu 16.04.1 ;D [20:58] that's nice [21:11] (: [21:11] glad to see that at least LTS is being used [21:20] \o daftykins, soon off to bed here. [21:21] ah har [21:21] 35mph winds buffeting the windows here - and solid rain [21:21] true wintery night [21:24] jeeez, some huy is msg'ing me to teach me about islam... [21:24] *guy [21:25] too tired for that. [21:26] XD [21:31] god, when people ask for instructions and are given them, why do they do something *different* and then doesn't even bother to provide a complete paste? [21:41] state of apt messed up, lots of ppas, some of them pretty broken, *and* enabled proposed... [21:42] this is why being banned was a saving grace [21:42] :> [21:43] i'm thinking of doing that myself >:-) [21:44] what a liberating feeling that would be! [21:45] this is the problem, because even helping out - what does solving some users problem really do in the grand scheme? makes folks depend on coming here to be spoonfed sadly [21:46] i agree, i prefer other channels where you're allowed to say 'rtfm, dammit!' sometimes [21:46] but those who don't know how to rtfm also need help [21:47] perhaps, but if something is on a wiki then i think pasting links is going too far [21:47] a user who won't lift a finger is not worthy of assistance [21:48] ducasse, this john dude has wine issues? [21:48] i dislike the ones who come in and say 'i have this problem: http://pastebin.com/foobar'. if they cant describe the problem, i don't care. [21:49] daftykins, i want to suggest to remove the mouse completely from linux :-D [21:49] OerHeks: i gave up on him looong ago, he was useless. [21:49] would *not* listen, even after 1,5 hours of being told the same thing. [21:52] ducasse: eh a log at least beats "x doesn't work" [21:53] Bashing-om: \o wb [21:54] I get strapped in here, see what the ride is going to be . Good day to ya daftykins :) [21:54] daftykins: yes, but they could say "i have this *x* problem:..." - without opening the link i have no idea if i'm likely to be able to help. [21:55] hiya Bashing-om :) [21:56] ducasse: And to you also a big Hiya, going well for you ? [21:56] holy moly, some guttering just snapped off a building opposite me in these high winds and smashed down to the lane... it's a piece about 8 feet long [21:58] daftykins: Mother nature raising her head .. We too have been under high winds, So far I have seen no damage . [21:58] Bashing-om: i'm good, thanks :) just need to order a couple of new yubikeys and pay some bills, then off to bed. [22:00] life; eat, sleep, pay bills - so we can eat and sleep ( and pay for the parts in our systems ) :) [22:00] I am looking for a servant.. to walk with drabber, brrrrrrrr [22:01] OerHeks: did abmares2 ask you also about 'ISLAM'? [22:03] not yet, i cannot ban PM individualy on hexchat :-( [22:03] he must be moving on to the next one i guess [22:07] any of you have any experience with arch? thinking of switching my desktop to it. [22:08] OerHeks: here he goes with the 'tude again... [22:32] "oh, so since you have told me what to do i'm goig to pretend i was right all along instead of just wasting 3 hours of your time" [22:33] a**hole. foadiaf. [22:33] grrrrr.... [22:37] Lead a horse to water, if it does not drink, then it is his problem. no ? [22:41] Bashing-om: this was just ridiculous, though. nvm, i hope he's gone now. i will be soon anyway. [22:42] Bashing-om: have you used arch? [22:44] ducasse: Not in many years, before my 'buntu time .. and even back then was lightly . [22:46] ducasse: Something ya got going on ya can bounce off me, see what bounces back ? [22:47] Bashing-om: ok, i'm just looking at it. considering it for my desktop, i sometimes miss something a bit more like slackware (which i 'grew up' with) [22:50] ducasse: Well, let me relate my thought . Core install .. ubuntu as the sources list .. and build what you want .. I have been very pleased overall with my results . ( but stuck right for 16.04 getting some desktop access' to work ) [22:51] Bashing-om: sure, that's what have now, but i use a *ton* of stuff that requires manual building on ubuntu but exists in arch repo or aur. [22:51] *what i have now [22:53] Yukkie then on 'buntu .. I had not realized there were those limitations . [22:53] arch is for Linux ricers though :D [22:54] Bashing-om: it's not, normally, i guess i just use a lot of weird stuff :) [22:54] Well .. one can view as this " makes you the better coder " when ya can port the app over ! [22:56] daftykins: not a ricer, #i3 is teeming with them these days. a lot of them *are* on arch, which most of them probably shouldn't be. [22:57] I also know can drive you to drink'n from the frustration of try, code, break - try recode - break .. try try try . [22:58] Bashing-om: reading up on lisp and python in my spare time, i'm glad i don't code for a living... [23:00] yeah tiling window managers are also part of the ricer fashion :> [23:00] ducasse: Well .. with all I have going on, and the commitments I have .. I can not organized myself now-a-days to learn new code . [23:01] daftykins: i know, it's pretty sad. there was i guy today who asked how to open all windows as floating and where the control center was... [23:02] Bashing-om: i have spare time, and i have to use it for _something_. better than watching tv. [23:14] ducasse: Ouch ! You got that right ! .. Here in the US ...TV is more commercials than program .. and the progamming is getting nastier by the day .. I quit TV several years back .. I keep telling my self that one of these days I will learn 'buntu'n . [23:20] Bashing-om: very restricted how much commercials they are allowed to send here, but i still hate them. and i refuse to watch trash like the kardashians etc. learning more programming seemed like a good idea for something to spend time on, and so far lisp looks very interesting :) [23:38] Well .. What I have learned from learning to program ., sure teaches one to be logical in their thought processes ! Me Am now very far behind the times .. but in my days was 'C' to " do it all " . [23:41] Bashing-om: i just know the bare basics of c, not going to pick it up again, i think. well, the cat wants me to go to bed so she can sleep in her warm spot - i better obey... [23:41] good night/day all. [23:45] Nite note ducasse .. rest well . [23:45] \0 [23:55] oh, and btw - i usually don't care about movies, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUtG93BebJ4 [23:56] yeah, that one is a crime against the original [23:59] oh, bummer. [23:59] zZzZ...