[03:59] <White_Light> why was 4.8.9 released before upstream released 4.8.9
[04:00] <White_Light> that doesn't appear to make any sense, am I missing something?
[05:31] <r4y> I am running an older tower that I can get Ubuntu 10.04 on a different hard drive to work with where the graphics card can do 3D graphics and tv-out with s-video through nvidia settings. I am running Ubuntu Mate on that same tower right now and I want to get tv out, but I don't care to get 3D graphics to work. How do I do that?
[05:33] <r4y> I found this, but I wasn't sure about how things would work differently than before, but I have never messed with these before from this link:
[05:33] <r4y> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[05:35] <r4y> I am going to leave this window open and go visit with other people for now, so I will likely not respond, but any input as to what tutorials online for setting up Ubuntu Mate for this would be a step in the right direction versus wondering which method might work and not being sure, because I feel stuck.
[05:36] <r4y> I meant different ways would be great, as there are likely to be many ways perhaps.
[07:59] <eightfold> hi
[08:05] <eightfold> i wonder how i can change the window title color
[08:05] <eightfold> i KNOW i've done this before, because i have a screenshot of it
[08:05] <eightfold> https://i.imgur.com/DUOHIba.png
[08:05] <eightfold> that shows how i changed the default baby blue to something darker
[08:06] <eightfold> i can't, for my life, find how out how to do that again!
[08:07] <eightfold> i think there might have been a "color" tab in customize
[08:07] <eightfold> but no longer...
[08:07] <eightfold> like so: https://i.stack.imgur.com/VYl3N.png
[08:07] <eightfold> has this wonderful feature been removed?
[08:11] <ouroumov_> eightfold, in 16.10 yes it's removed
[08:11] <ouroumov_> Actually it can't be implemented in GTK3+ apparently
[08:12] <eightfold> ouroumov_: ouch, ok
[08:12] <eightfold> so, editing the themes?
[08:12] <ouroumov_> Yeah I think
[08:12] <ouroumov_> I'd like to know the recommended way to go about this too
[08:14] <eightfold> http://askubuntu.com/a/760249
[08:14] <eightfold> perhaps
[08:17] <eightfold> "But it still wasn't enough for me, because progressbars and checkboxes remained green. Then I found the gtk-3.0/assets folder. There, I had to manually change the color of every single greenish asset with Gimp. I used the Hue-Saturation tool with the following parameters:"
[08:17] <eightfold> argh...
[08:47] <eightfold> ok, i'm messing about with the themes...
[08:47] <eightfold> copied a theme to ~/.themes
[08:48] <eightfold> there's a Radiant-MATE file in the root of the themes dir of this theme
[08:48] <eightfold> BUT (strangeness)
[08:48] <eightfold> when i look at the dir from the terminal it's called index.theme
[08:48] <eightfold> wtf
[08:48] <eightfold> how does this strangeness happen
[08:52] <eightfold> when i try to rename it to Radiant-MATE-mine.theme it's not loadable
[08:52] <eightfold> how do i change the name of the theme in the appearance > theme picker
[08:52] <eightfold> ?
[08:53] <eightfold> i don't want duplicate names
[08:53] <eightfold> that's why i'm messing around
[09:52] <alansun> somebady here
[10:08] <masnell> !ask
[11:02] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[15:20] <TwoNotes> Is there no 16.04.1 release for Raspberry Pi?
[15:32] <chuckwebb> Hello. Any ideas on how to set different DPIs for seperate monitors? (just added a 4k monitor to a multimonitor setup)
[16:09] <Guest39223> how do I change my menu to the advanced version
[16:33] <chuckwebb>  Guest39223: control centre -> MATE Tweak -> panel -> enable advanced menu
[16:40] <Guest39223> Thank you chuckwebb
[16:40] <chuckwebb> you're welcome :)
[20:08] <pi_> raspberry pi 3 no sound hdmi
[20:08] <pi_> help
[22:38] <sirivxx> anyone from the u.k in here
[22:41] <sirivxx> anyone from the u.k in here
[22:58] <mate|17036> hi i have Ubuntu 16.04 and the mate software wants me to update the OS.  It seems stuck,  and keeps asking me for authentication for some packages.  should I just download the latest Ubuntu over the old ones if the update fails?
[23:03] <mate|17036> wonders if this is the best option for me?
[23:07] <nomic> maybe ..
[23:07] <nomic> you should try to do a complete installation, to get 16.10
[23:07] <nomic> its because you have existing configuration
[23:08] <mate|17036> if its dual boot, just install over it?
[23:08] <nomic> you should m aybe ask on the forum (ubuntu, mate foru ms) isn't always busy here
[23:08] <nomic> it gives you an option of installing to a partition
[23:08] <nomic> it offers upgrade - its not compulsory
[23:08] <nomic> 16.04 is still in support
[23:08] <nomic> 16.10 is not a long term support release
[23:09] <nomic> stick with 16.04
[23:09] <nomic> April 2019
[23:09] <nomic> end of support for 16.04
[23:09] <mate|17036> oh the problem i am having is it downloaded 185 mb,  but keeps asking to authenticate when it gets to 135 mb  and it wont go further
[23:09] <nomic> its the most stable lts
[23:10] <nomic> apt-get upgrade upgrades packages, not the OS
[23:10] <mate|17036> well it runs ok without the updates, just saying it seems stuck
[23:10] <nomic> when you type sudo apt-get upgrade?
[23:11] <mate|17036> no the mate software is doing this, says one update and tells me its size
[23:11] <nomic> i dunno - ask on the forum
[23:11] <nomic> screenshot
[23:11] <nomic> show them
[23:11] <nomic> where it stops
[23:16] <mate|17036> so sudo apt-get upgrade is the command I should try in terminal?
[23:16] <mate|17036> so I am not dependant on the ubuntu-mate software?
[23:18] <mate|17036> I will try that instead, thank you
[23:18] <mate|17036> its asking for a reboot now.  hmmmm