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valorieI guess I should remove those ppas though00:10
valoriefirst thing00:10
valorieeverything seems crisper00:11
valoriesnappier00:11
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acheronukmorning09:35
acheronukdrat. LP publisher maintenance. forgot about that09:36
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BluesKajHowdy all11:56
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mparilloCongratulations to  wxl, tsimonq2, and santa_ 14:26
tsimonq2mparillo: Thanks. :)16:33
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DarinMillero/18:44
ahoneybunheyo DarinMiller18:45
valorieI've written a short story on Kub.org welcoming our new members, and would appreciate a read-over and maybe an image20:34
valorieahoneybun, ovidiu-florin, or whoever......20:34
ahoneybunopps sorry valorie20:42
ahoneybunI'll look now20:42
valorieno sorry necessary!20:43
valorieI just wrote it20:43
ahoneybunwell the "...." read other wise20:43
ahoneybunlooks fine20:44
ahoneybunsimple and to the point20:44
valoriepublish at will!20:52
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ahoneybunpublished valorie22:14
valoriethank you22:17
valoriebtw do you realize you answered me privately, rather than on -devel22:17
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Np22:17
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> 1 typo, ah ah ah22:17
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> 2 typos, ah ah ah22:17
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> 2 typos!22:17
valorieactually you had already given your +122:17
ahoneybunvalorie: well I forgot if I did or not22:17
valorie@tsimonq2 -- where are the typos?22:18
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> November22:18
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Oxford comma on the names22:18
ahoneybunwell then November is the only tyop22:18
valorieha22:18
ahoneybunXD the other is a grammar issue22:18
valorieahoneybun: will you fix or shall I?22:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And for fcuks sake, SOMEBODY fix the damn last names here: http://kubuntu.org/the-kubuntu-team/22:19
ahoneybunno Simon22:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Grumble22:19
ahoneybunvalorie: I'm not sure about the Oxford part tbh22:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Dude come on22:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Do it, it's a thing22:20
ahoneybunI'm not changing it22:20
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It's annoying without it22:20
valoriethe little text box is so tiny, I probably couldn't see it right22:20
ahoneybunonly to you it seems22:20
acheronukwhile we are at it, santa's name is missing the "Lema" at the end22:20
acheronuk:P22:20
valorieoh22:21
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Just give me access already guys22:21
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I won't bother you any more22:21
valoriedarn it, I copied that from his email22:21
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I'll fix everything XD22:21
ahoneybunvalorie: once wxl is the official RM we should add him on the Team page22:21
ahoneybunI'm not going to give you access to that Simon22:21
* acheronuk agrees with ahoneybun 22:22
acheronukthe team names are fine like that22:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Valorie? Please?22:22
valorieI don't like the caps22:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> *puppy dog eyes*22:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Me neither22:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Change it!22:22
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I think its fine as well22:22
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Come on already!22:22
valorieI'm in the minority, whether you and I agree ornot22:23
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> :/ :/22:23
valoriethis is a team, and majority (and reality) rule22:23
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Sadness22:23
valoriesorry to disappoint22:23
* valorie offers cold-brew coffee around the channel22:23
valoriemilk and sugar are on the table22:24
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Grumble grumble22:24
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Thanks valorie22:24
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> When I get home I'm telling the Kubuntu Council!22:24
valorieif I have to live in Trump America, you can live with caps22:24
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> :P22:24
valorielol22:24
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Noooooo22:24
valoriesomeone go talk about games in #kubuntu22:26
valorieplease22:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> You do know that Valorie and I are on the KC Simon22:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @ahoneybun, But you don't speak for the KC unless the KC is in formal agreement, correct?22:28
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> But I'm one of the KC with access to it22:29
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acheronukLP bug: 164337423:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1643374 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop is outdated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164337423:04
IrcsomeBot* tsimonq2 looks23:04
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Damn it all, we need updated Backports... :S23:05
valoriewe do, so we need a plan to get our new stuff finished testing and uploaded to ZZ23:06
* valorie is testing on 16.1023:06
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> We need uploaders...23:06
valoriesooooo tempted to jump to ZZ23:06
valorieyes23:06
mparilloI have ZZ running, but only a vanilla install, so it looks a lot like YY (as of this morning's updates).23:12
mparilloBut a real install from the very first ISO, no with sed magic on my sources.23:13
valorieoooo23:14
valorieI wonder if an upgrade path is available yet23:15
valorieI did sed to get to 16.1023:15
valoriewith a bit of trepidation23:15
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'm staying on YY23:17
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'll test when I can23:17
clivejoHi folks, can someone reply to this guy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/164337423:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1643374 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop is outdated" [Undecided,New]23:22
valorienice to see you, clivejo23:23
clivejohi valorie23:23
clivejohe has sent a number of emails directly to me this evening23:23
valoriewow23:24
clivejoI pointed him to the -devel mailing list23:24
valoriewhat is with people writing privately?23:24
valorieso annoying when it should be to a list23:24
mparilloMy favorite response is come on and help us test. I saw (was it blueskaj?) had Plasma 5.8.3 up, using -staging and some extra care and feeding?23:24
valorieyes indeed23:24
valorieI have 5.8.3 up, no extra care and feeding necessary23:25
clivejoI don't know, I'm getting a lot of emails.  Starting to think there is an article or something somewhere 23:25
valoriebut I'm only on 16.1023:25
valoriewe've done some testing, now are getting to needing uploaders23:25
clivejobut would appreciate if someone could answer that LP bug23:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> clivejo: Maybe if you would upload some things for us...23:27
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> *AHEM* ;)23:27
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Because that's literally our next step23:27
clivejosorry, I don't have the required confidence in the packages in order to do that23:28
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I was kidding. :P23:28
clivejook23:29
clivejoI put a couple of emails out on the -devel ML of some issues affecting KCI23:30
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Although if you were up for it, I could walk you through so you could upload if you wanted. ;)23:30
valorieclivejo: I saw you answer one of those issues yourself; have you gotten an answer on the other?23:31
clivejowell as things are now, discover wont upload due to missing epochs on muon packages23:31
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> s/upload/build/ ? :)23:32
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1643374/comments/123:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1643374 in plasma-desktop (Ubuntu) "plasma-desktop is outdated" [Undecided,New]23:32
clivejovalorie: I didnt answer it, just updated my question with the correct facts23:32
clivejoI got confused in the package that has the wrong VCS23:32
valorieright, we need to perfect frameworks, then Plasma, then work through the applications beginning with important ones like that23:33
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Me and Rik agreed on a deadline of December 1st23:33
valorieI hope wxl will come up with a plan of action soon23:33
clivejothanks valorie23:34
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> ABSOLUTELY NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 1ST should we have things uploaded23:34
valoriethank YOU for getting him to file a bug23:34
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> We need to address the elephant in the room23:34
valorietsimonq2: no need to yell23:34
clivejoI actually asked him to email the ML23:34
clivejohe filed the bug all on his own23:34
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> valorie: it's for the users reading the backlog. :P23:35
valoriewe need a plan of action, then ask all our KDs to help out as necessary23:35
acheronukclivejo: I'll do a test build in my ppa tomorrow reinstating those epochs23:35
clivejoacheronuk: its more the fact it got missed that is worrying me23:35
acheronuktsimonq2: did I agree that? I was a bit tired when we talked the other day23:36
clivejoI strongly suggest re-introducing some kind of check of the packaging in the archive and the packaging in the *_archive branches23:36
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> acheronuk, santa_, wxl: Urgent Kubuntu Developer meeting tomorrow after I get home from school (4 PM UTC-6)? We need to get the elephant out of the room and we need to do it as soon as reasonably possible.23:37
valorieclivejo: do you know how neon does that checking?23:37
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> acheronuk: Correct. It was even your idea. :P23:37
valorieand Debian23:38
clivejovalorie: they dont upload to ubuntu archive23:38
valorieunderstood23:38
valoriebut do they test their packaging in some way?23:38
valoriebesides users23:38
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, Santa @acheronuk23:38
clivejothe CI does tests and auto-merges debian23:38
clivejoAFAIK23:39
clivejothe problem here is that other Ubuntu devs are fixing bugs and uploading the package23:39
clivejobut they dont update our git repos with those changes23:40
valorieI seem to recall that santa had a simulated uploading test to fix the autotest problems23:40
valorieright, that's an issue23:40
clivejoits not auto-tests23:40
clivejoits the tracking of our archive bracnches23:41
valorieah23:41
valorieseparate issue then23:41
clivejoas detailed in the email the old tooling made checks and flagged up problems that could be fixed23:42
clivejothe new tooling doesnt seem to do that, or the functionality is broken23:42
valorie:(23:43
* valorie goes to fold laundry23:44
* clivejo has a pup to feed and put to bed23:44
clivejonight all23:44
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Night Clive23:45
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