[00:06] <acheronuk> \o/
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[00:10] <valorie> I guess I should remove those ppas though
[00:10] <valorie> first thing
[00:11] <valorie> everything seems crisper
[00:11] <valorie> snappier
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[09:35] <acheronuk> morning
[09:36] <acheronuk> drat. LP publisher maintenance. forgot about that
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[11:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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[14:26] <mparillo> Congratulations to  wxl, tsimonq2, and santa_ 
[16:33] <tsimonq2> mparillo: Thanks. :)
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[18:44] <DarinMiller> o/
[18:45] <ahoneybun> heyo DarinMiller
[20:34] <valorie> I've written a short story on Kub.org welcoming our new members, and would appreciate a read-over and maybe an image
[20:34] <valorie> ahoneybun, ovidiu-florin, or whoever......
[20:42] <ahoneybun> opps sorry valorie
[20:42] <ahoneybun> I'll look now
[20:43] <valorie> no sorry necessary!
[20:43] <valorie> I just wrote it
[20:43] <ahoneybun> well the "...." read other wise
[20:44] <ahoneybun> looks fine
[20:44] <ahoneybun> simple and to the point
[20:52] <valorie> publish at will!
[22:14] <ahoneybun> published valorie
[22:17] <valorie> thank you
[22:17] <valorie> btw do you realize you answered me privately, rather than on -devel
 Np
 1 typo, ah ah ah
 2 typos, ah ah ah
 2 typos!
[22:17] <valorie> actually you had already given your +1
[22:17] <ahoneybun> valorie: well I forgot if I did or not
[22:18] <valorie> @tsimonq2 -- where are the typos?
 November
 Oxford comma on the names
[22:18] <ahoneybun> well then November is the only tyop
[22:18] <valorie> ha
[22:18] <ahoneybun> XD the other is a grammar issue
[22:19] <valorie> ahoneybun: will you fix or shall I?
 And for fcuks sake, SOMEBODY fix the damn last names here: http://kubuntu.org/the-kubuntu-team/
[22:19] <ahoneybun> no Simon
 Grumble
[22:19] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm not sure about the Oxford part tbh
 Dude come on
 Do it, it's a thing
[22:20] <ahoneybun> I'm not changing it
 It's annoying without it
[22:20] <valorie> the little text box is so tiny, I probably couldn't see it right
[22:20] <ahoneybun> only to you it seems
[22:20] <acheronuk> while we are at it, santa's name is missing the "Lema" at the end
[22:20] <acheronuk> :P
[22:21] <valorie> oh
 Just give me access already guys
 I won't bother you any more
[22:21] <valorie> darn it, I copied that from his email
 I'll fix everything XD
[22:21] <ahoneybun> valorie: once wxl is the official RM we should add him on the Team page
[22:21] <ahoneybun> I'm not going to give you access to that Simon
[22:22]  * acheronuk agrees with ahoneybun 
[22:22] <acheronuk> the team names are fine like that
 Valorie? Please?
[22:22] <valorie> I don't like the caps
 *puppy dog eyes*
 Me neither
 Change it!
 I think its fine as well
 Come on already!
[22:23] <valorie> I'm in the minority, whether you and I agree ornot
 :/ :/
[22:23] <valorie> this is a team, and majority (and reality) rule
 Sadness
[22:23] <valorie> sorry to disappoint
[22:23]  * valorie offers cold-brew coffee around the channel
[22:24] <valorie> milk and sugar are on the table
 Grumble grumble
 Thanks valorie
 When I get home I'm telling the Kubuntu Council!
[22:24] <valorie> if I have to live in Trump America, you can live with caps
 :P
[22:24] <valorie> lol
 Noooooo
[22:26] <valorie> someone go talk about games in #kubuntu
[22:26] <valorie> please
 You do know that Valorie and I are on the KC Simon
 @ahoneybun, But you don't speak for the KC unless the KC is in formal agreement, correct?
 But I'm one of the KC with access to it
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[23:04] <acheronuk> LP bug: 1643374
 Damn it all, we need updated Backports... :S
[23:06] <valorie> we do, so we need a plan to get our new stuff finished testing and uploaded to ZZ
[23:06]  * valorie is testing on 16.10
 We need uploaders...
[23:06] <valorie> sooooo tempted to jump to ZZ
[23:06] <valorie> yes
[23:12] <mparillo> I have ZZ running, but only a vanilla install, so it looks a lot like YY (as of this morning's updates).
[23:13] <mparillo> But a real install from the very first ISO, no with sed magic on my sources.
[23:14] <valorie> oooo
[23:15] <valorie> I wonder if an upgrade path is available yet
[23:15] <valorie> I did sed to get to 16.10
[23:15] <valorie> with a bit of trepidation
 I'm staying on YY
 I'll test when I can
[23:22] <clivejo> Hi folks, can someone reply to this guy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1643374
[23:23] <valorie> nice to see you, clivejo
[23:23] <clivejo> hi valorie
[23:23] <clivejo> he has sent a number of emails directly to me this evening
[23:24] <valorie> wow
[23:24] <clivejo> I pointed him to the -devel mailing list
[23:24] <valorie> what is with people writing privately?
[23:24] <valorie> so annoying when it should be to a list
[23:24] <mparillo> My favorite response is come on and help us test. I saw (was it blueskaj?) had Plasma 5.8.3 up, using -staging and some extra care and feeding?
[23:24] <valorie> yes indeed
[23:25] <valorie> I have 5.8.3 up, no extra care and feeding necessary
[23:25] <clivejo> I don't know, I'm getting a lot of emails.  Starting to think there is an article or something somewhere 
[23:25] <valorie> but I'm only on 16.10
[23:25] <valorie> we've done some testing, now are getting to needing uploaders
[23:26] <clivejo> but would appreciate if someone could answer that LP bug
 clivejo: Maybe if you would upload some things for us...
 *AHEM* ;)
 Because that's literally our next step
[23:28] <clivejo> sorry, I don't have the required confidence in the packages in order to do that
 I was kidding. :P
[23:29] <clivejo> ok
[23:30] <clivejo> I put a couple of emails out on the -devel ML of some issues affecting KCI
 Although if you were up for it, I could walk you through so you could upload if you wanted. ;)
[23:31] <valorie> clivejo: I saw you answer one of those issues yourself; have you gotten an answer on the other?
[23:31] <clivejo> well as things are now, discover wont upload due to missing epochs on muon packages
 s/upload/build/ ? :)
[23:32] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1643374/comments/1
[23:32] <clivejo> valorie: I didnt answer it, just updated my question with the correct facts
[23:32] <clivejo> I got confused in the package that has the wrong VCS
[23:33] <valorie> right, we need to perfect frameworks, then Plasma, then work through the applications beginning with important ones like that
 Me and Rik agreed on a deadline of December 1st
[23:33] <valorie> I hope wxl will come up with a plan of action soon
[23:34] <clivejo> thanks valorie
 ABSOLUTELY NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 1ST should we have things uploaded
[23:34] <valorie> thank YOU for getting him to file a bug
 We need to address the elephant in the room
[23:34] <valorie> tsimonq2: no need to yell
[23:34] <clivejo> I actually asked him to email the ML
[23:34] <clivejo> he filed the bug all on his own
 valorie: it's for the users reading the backlog. :P
[23:35] <valorie> we need a plan of action, then ask all our KDs to help out as necessary
[23:35] <acheronuk> clivejo: I'll do a test build in my ppa tomorrow reinstating those epochs
[23:35] <clivejo> acheronuk: its more the fact it got missed that is worrying me
[23:36] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: did I agree that? I was a bit tired when we talked the other day
[23:36] <clivejo> I strongly suggest re-introducing some kind of check of the packaging in the archive and the packaging in the *_archive branches
 acheronuk, santa_, wxl: Urgent Kubuntu Developer meeting tomorrow after I get home from school (4 PM UTC-6)? We need to get the elephant out of the room and we need to do it as soon as reasonably possible.
[23:37] <valorie> clivejo: do you know how neon does that checking?
 acheronuk: Correct. It was even your idea. :P
[23:38] <valorie> and Debian
[23:38] <clivejo> valorie: they dont upload to ubuntu archive
[23:38] <valorie> understood
[23:38] <valorie> but do they test their packaging in some way?
[23:38] <valorie> besides users
 @tsimonq2, Santa @acheronuk
[23:38] <clivejo> the CI does tests and auto-merges debian
[23:39] <clivejo> AFAIK
[23:39] <clivejo> the problem here is that other Ubuntu devs are fixing bugs and uploading the package
[23:40] <clivejo> but they dont update our git repos with those changes
[23:40] <valorie> I seem to recall that santa had a simulated uploading test to fix the autotest problems
[23:40] <valorie> right, that's an issue
[23:40] <clivejo> its not auto-tests
[23:41] <clivejo> its the tracking of our archive bracnches
[23:41] <valorie> ah
[23:41] <valorie> separate issue then
[23:42] <clivejo> as detailed in the email the old tooling made checks and flagged up problems that could be fixed
[23:42] <clivejo> the new tooling doesnt seem to do that, or the functionality is broken
[23:43] <valorie> :(
[23:44]  * valorie goes to fold laundry
[23:44]  * clivejo has a pup to feed and put to bed
[23:44] <clivejo> night all
 Night Clive
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