[07:05] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[10:07] <magespawn> good morning
[10:27] <smile> good morning, magespawn :)
[13:44] <magespawn> chat later
[13:45] <smile> bye! :)
[17:27] <magespawn> good evening
[17:30] <smile> hi :)
[17:48] <captine> evening all
[18:00] <captine> anyone here using vumatel fibre?  they apparently getting to my place in Feb next year, so trying to see configs of packages to get good internet with voip phone service?  Voip phone service likely to be a big influence.
[18:07] <smile> captine: since I'm in Belgium, nope ;)
[18:07] <captine> smile.. thanks.. 
[18:07] <captine> ;)
[18:07] <smile> :DD
[18:07] <captine> nice and fresh there this time of year, right?
[18:08] <smile> depends on the weather.
[18:08] <captine> got a colleague who just arrived in Germany for some business..
[18:08] <smile> A few trees fell down :p
[18:08] <smile> There's lots of rain :)
[18:08] <smile> And it's relatively cold
[18:31] <kulelu88> it's europe, cold is taken as a given
[18:31] <kulelu88> captine: you are in the top 0,5% of SA that has access to FTTH ;)
[18:33] <captine> kulelu88: apparently, it gets to our complex end Jan… am expecting March to be a possible date for actually being in the complex.
[18:33] <magespawn> captine i work for an isp who runs on Vumatel fibre
[18:34] <captine> cool.  hoping vumatel are reliable…
[18:34] <captine> which ISP?  if you dont mind/
[18:34] <kulelu88> I'd bank on vumtel doing a better job than hellkom
[18:34] <magespawn> cool ideas
[18:35] <magespawn> mostly they are reliable
[18:36] <captine> was checking out cool ideas.  mate in blairgowre is with them
[18:37] <magespawn> ha small world
[18:37] <captine> my challenge is to get good voip service.  vox seems to be the most well known for voip + data etc.
[18:38] <kulelu88> All the ISPs now do "FTTH". When you ask them what that means, what it doesn't mean is: we will lay the fibre in your community
[18:38] <magespawn> indeed most are running on one of the open access networks
[18:41] <magespawn> i thought the open access networks were a better idea.
[18:42] <magespawn> ironically, i have no fixed internet at home 
[18:44] <captine> magespawn: do u need internet at home.  assume you get your downloads in at work… 
[18:44] <captine> but how do you stream without fixed internet… so expensive on 3g etc
[18:44] <kulelu88> only brave souls do their downloads at work
[18:45] <magespawn> streaming and such would be nice
[18:46] <magespawn> when at work too busy working most of the time
[18:47] <magespawn> captine who ever you go with try not to sign a contract
[18:48] <captine> i never sign contracts.  prefer paying upfront install fees etc
[18:50] <magespawn> from what i see, prices, speeds etc are only going one way a bit like adsl did when seacom first landed
[18:50] <superfly> o/
[18:50] <magespawn> hey superfly
[18:51] <kulelu88> the fibre market is still minute
[18:52] <magespawn> yup, such a small amount of the country side, but growing
[18:52] <magespawn> and is some parts of the world they still have faster adsl/dsl
[18:55] <captine> yip.  my area has vdsl support… but telkom so expensive, so will go with 20/20 fibre when available…. and cut all telkom ties
[19:00] <magespawn> i am renting a flat in kempton park at the moment, have not bothered to enquire about v/adsl, was looking at one of the wireless options
[19:24] <kulelu88> superfly: when someone makes an API request, what is a good/expected JSON response ?
[19:24] <superfly> kulelu88: it depends on the request
[19:25] <kulelu88> is sending just a '200' response for success a not-so-good idea? Also, superfly I looked into Falcon and apparently, you cannot write falcon code as just functions, you have to use classes :/
[19:26] <superfly> I've not heard of Falcon
[19:27] <superfly> kulelu88: no, 200 indicates a response body
[19:27] <kulelu88> superfly: #falconframework
[19:27] <superfly> kulelu88: 201 or 202
[19:43] <smile> bye :)
[19:48] <foo_bar_fool> snap packages yay or na?
[19:48] <kulelu88> superfly: I've had a 'scaling' dilemma, thinking I should rewrite my code from Flask. Then I realized that I haven't worked much on the code itself, so a rewrite will just delay me from releasing something I'm not even sure people might use
[19:54] <foo_bar_fool> sup kulelu88 
[19:55] <kulelu88> welcome foo_bar_fool . you look new here
[20:11] <pavlushka> o/ every one :)
[20:11] <pavlushka> and Good Night :)
[20:23] <foo_bar_fool> so so, sounds like your making a python project kulelu88 
[20:24] <kulelu88> indeed foo_bar_fool . why is there a fool in your username?
[20:27] <foo_bar_fool> because... im a fool... for placeholders.... :P
[20:28] <kulelu88> i've never seen you here before foo_bar_fool . you a programmer ?
[20:28] <foo_bar_fool> I try LOL
[20:28] <foo_bar_fool> and you kulelu88?
[20:30] <magespawn> i am off, good night all
[20:30] <kulelu88> I try too. you must be a young fellow. the ooms here don't say LOL
[20:42] <kulelu88> foo_bar_fool: you code in Java, Ruby, JS or Python?
[20:42] <foo_bar_fool> Python, want to try some JS and Java
[20:43] <foo_bar_fool> and yourself kulelu88 ?
[20:58] <kulelu88> Python and sometimes #nim
[21:04] <kulelu88> you a student? foo_bar_fool 
[21:07] <foo_bar_fool> not really, of life yes LOL, yourself kulelu88 
[21:07] <kulelu88> nope, on my way to becoming an oom and then oupa
[21:28] <superfly> hahaha
[23:40] <kulelu88> adjusting your timezone already superfly :P