[00:00] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: i'm going to sleep now , though ;)
[00:02] <JohnMcClain> that's not to a vote?
[00:03] <ducasse> JohnMcClain: sorry, i've been up far too long :) you all have fun, though :)
[00:34] <i_and_i> good evening
[00:34] <john_s> this is probably the worst evening of my life.
[00:34] <i_and_i> how so?
[00:35] <john_s> I seriously had a better time when I broke my feet (heelbones) and was locked up in a police cellar.
[00:35] <bekks> john_s: then why do you even try to install wine on a live cd? :P
[00:36] <john_s> just because someone decides that installing i386 on a live dvd should be impossible....
[00:36] <wdonkey> hello, what would be the course of action someone that had 14.04 installed, then decided to try matte's graphical interface, and now wants to update ubuntu to the newest LTS should do ?
[00:36] <john_s> or what about this one
[00:36] <bekks> john_s: And now you know why :D
[00:36] <john_s> no
[00:36] <john_s> someone decided that
[00:36] <john_s> there is no reason for it.
[00:36] <john_s> I got around it in the end.
[00:36] <bekks> Cool, so stop whining and continue :D
[00:37] <john_s> yes so I get to use the rescue session for 16.04
[00:37] <john_s> it pops up a menu
[00:37] <john_s> one of those blueish menus
[00:37] <john_s> I select "root prompt" which is fine.
[00:37] <bekks> And whats the outcome of your effort - in short?
[00:37] <john_s> but after issueing a few commands it keeps popping back up the menu while still accepting commands from the prompt.
[00:38] <john_s> and, it tells me, all the while I am trying to do stuff, that is going to continue the boot process now.
[00:38] <john_s> that's the rescue system, which is completely useless.
[00:38] <bekks> so you typed "exit" at some point there.
[00:38] <john_s> no I didn' t.
[00:38] <Bashing-om> wdonkey: As 14.04 is a LTS release, one must 1st ak " what do I hope to gain " in release 16.04 rhat I might loose from 14.04 ?
[00:38] <bekks> john_s: Otherwise it would not continue to boot.
[00:38] <john_s> a rescue system should be dependable.
[00:39] <john_s> ah, but in that case I wouldn' t be able to type anything now would I?
[00:39] <john_s> and get the output of that as well.
[00:39] <bekks> It is and it works as expected for me.
[00:39] <john_s> so wrong.
[00:39] <john_s> yes for you and your kitten, but not for me and a lot of other people probably.
[00:39] <bekks> So stop whining and file a bug then.
[00:39] <john_s> it should be dependable and it isn' t
[00:39] <john_s> why don' t you stop whining about my relating.
[00:40] <bekks> *plonk*
[00:40] <bekks> Gotvha.
[00:40] <bekks> Gotcha even.
[00:41] <john_s> for some reason you always have to tell people what to do, it is never okay what they do, isn' t it.
[00:42] <wdonkey> Bashing-om, i used to do just that, but at some point things evolve and if you stay behind your release stops being supported and you're left with no option but a complete re-install
[00:42] <bekks> wdonkey: 14.04 is supported until 2019. So no worries yet.
[00:43] <john_s> next up I have lost my opensuse dvd, no ones fault, but the Ubuntu dvds don't have a rescue mode and so I have to wait another 10 minutes before the DVD is loaded again.... just so I can merge a snapshot back :(.
[00:44] <john_s> then I am copying the snapshot as a backup to a stick, just to be sure LVM doesn' t mess things up.
[00:44] <john_s> I plug in a DVD player to the same USB hub as the stick.
[00:44] <john_s> stick doesn't have enough power anymore, backup breaks off and I have to restart it at 90%.
[00:44] <wdonkey> bekks, because when i try to upgrade it doesnt work, and maybe in 2019 i'll have less patience and time than i have now, i would like to figure this out sooner than later
[00:45] <john_s> cause Linux tools never really allow for any errors, they immediately exit.
[00:45] <john_s> no way to restart anything either....
[00:47] <john_s> the backup fails AGAIN and I am at wit' s end again, this is now a powered USB hub.
[00:51] <usr13> john_s: What are  you working on?
[00:52] <john_s> I was trying to get an nVidia GTX 950 working but I made the mistake to follow troubleshooting advice here.
[00:52] <john_s> :p.
[00:52] <usr13> john_s: Really?
[00:52] <usr13> john_s: Well, if you got some bad advice and broke something, why not just fix it?
[00:52] <john_s> doing stuff on my own is usually just 500x more efficient than doing it in a channel with other people.... that usually just object to anything you want to do.
[00:53] <john_s> because the tools I require to fix stuff also break.
[00:53] <usr13> john_s: Then, why are you here?
[00:53] <john_s> to talk to you I guess.
[00:53] <john_s> not to get advice lol.
[00:53] <usr13> Oh ok.  Well good to talk to you. :)
[00:54] <usr13> john_s: This is support channel for Ubuntu.
[00:54] <usr13> john_s: So do you want to fix your video driver?
[00:55] <JohnMcClain> I got a bunch of ubuntu help here this morning that would have taken me days otherwise
[00:55] <john_s> yeah but I'm not you I guess.
[00:55] <mattwj2002> hello all
[00:55] <usr13> JohnMcClain: As have lots of others.  Thanks for the positive comment.
[00:55] <mattwj2002> whoever makes a graphics card update tool that is higher than vga should be shot on site :)
[00:56] <john_s> the only way I will ever be able to fix my graphics driver is to not be here.
[00:56] <mattwj2002> dang intel graphics tool
[00:56] <mattwj2002> :)
[00:56] <john_s> or people will send me into woods I can never get out of.
[00:56] <usr13> JohnMcClain: But I'm glad everyone does not chime in with their storries of help and support because the channel would be overwhelmed.
[00:56] <mattwj2002> luckily figured out you could just hit enter
[00:56] <mattwj2002> :)
[00:57] <mattwj2002> hopefully this fixes the issue :-s
[00:57] <john_s> I don't think you need to fear any overwhelming that has never taken place.
[00:57] <john_s> people self-regulate you know.
[00:57] <john_s> If too many do it, other people will stop.
[00:58] <john_s> So that's just fearing something that will never happen....
[00:58] <usr13> john_s: /join #ubuntu-discuss
[00:58] <john_s> I don't really take orders at this point, sorry.
[00:59] <usr13> john_s: Yes, people fix their problems and move on.
[00:59] <john_s> Shop is closed :).
[00:59] <mattwj2002> group can I get support in here for ubuntu mate if I need it?
[00:59] <blair_> Hey, I'm testing an irssi script. Can someone write "blair_ $whatever_you_want"
[00:59] <usr13> mattwj2002: Sure.
[00:59] <john_s> blair_ witch
[00:59] <mattwj2002> awesome I am not even sure if it is an offical distro yet
[00:59] <blair_> Thanks john_s
[00:59] <john_s> :).
[01:00] <blair_> Haha! I just got the reference
[01:00] <john_s> hahaha. slow! :p.
[01:01] <mattwj2002> guys I can't get passed vga mode with this dang server!
[01:01] <mattwj2002> :(
[01:01] <mattwj2002> it is a Dell R710
[01:01] <mattwj2002> it has intel graphics.....I am using ubuntu mate everything I have tired no luck
[01:03] <Bashing-om> mattwj2002: Do I read that correctly, as hybrid graphics ? Intel and ATI R 710 ?
[01:04] <mattwj2002> Bashing-om: it is a Dell R710 server
[01:04] <mattwj2002> not an ATI R710 :)
[01:04] <usr13> mattwj2002: lsmod |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:04] <usr13> mattwj2002: And send resulting URL
[01:05] <john_s> now that is neat :).
[01:05] <usr13> mattwj2002: What do  you mean by "VGA mode"?
[01:05] <kiruhan2> heeey
[01:06] <john_s> what's up kiru
[01:06] <mattwj2002> 640x480 graphics is the only resolution available
[01:06] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:06] <mattwj2002> oops
[01:06] <mattwj2002> :(
[01:06] <usr13> mattwj2002: Oh, ok.
[01:06] <kiruhan2> guys. Is there someone with discord  ?
[01:06] <usr13> mattwj2002: So, let's have a look.
[01:06] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok?
[01:06] <mattwj2002> yup one second
[01:07] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:07] <john_s> I have a lot of discord at times.
[01:07] <mattwj2002> http://termbin.com/aywu
[01:07] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:07] <mattwj2002> the intel graphics ppa is not signed
[01:07] <mattwj2002> :-s
[01:08] <kiruhan2> sooo. iam talking about this  **https://discordapp.com/**
[01:08] <john_s> anyone know how to turn off the signing requirement?
[01:08] <john_s> I mean the security for apt
[01:08] <kiruhan2> about sudo ?
[01:08] <mattwj2002> W: GPG error: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 56A3DEF863961D39
[01:08] <usr13> mattwj2002: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:09] <xangua> !gpgerr | mattwj2002
[01:09] <mattwj2002> yeah
[01:09] <mattwj2002> http://termbin.com/w9t3
[01:10] <john_s> jesus christ now my DVD writing also fails.
[01:10] <mattwj2002> I just applied two updates
[01:10] <mattwj2002> reboot time :)
[01:10] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok, good>
[01:10] <kiruhan2> see ya )
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I am on a different computer
[01:11] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:11] <kiruhan2> wow. ok
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I am ssh'd into this sucker :)
[01:11] <usr13> mattwj2002: So, you resolved the GPG errors?
[01:12] <mattwj2002> usr13: yeah it says it has weak whatever but I was able to get a few updates installed
[01:12] <mattwj2002> I am hoping to fix this graphic issue still
[01:12] <mattwj2002> my server is rebooting!
[01:13] <john_s> I would love the day when something would actually reliably work. In fact, I would pay for it!.
[01:13] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok, yea.  Do all your updates and then we can try and fix graphic issue.
[01:13] <mattwj2002> sounds good usr13
[01:14] <mattwj2002> back still having issues
[01:14] <usr13> lspci |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:14] <john_s> now comes the test: we will merge a snapshot back into a raid 1 LVM volume.
[01:14] <xar-> lift with your knees! ;)
[01:15] <JewBanker3> Adolf Hitler FEEL THE POWER, SEE THE GLORY!
[01:15] <squinty> ops! JewBanker
[01:15] <usr13> mattwj2002: lspci |& nc termbin.com 9999
[01:15] <mattwj2002> http://termbin.com/n160
[01:15] <mattwj2002> yup I saw it
[01:17] <john_s> and it works! Success! At least it starts.
[01:18] <usr13> mattwj2002: sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <stimp> ooboontoo
[01:18] <stimp> is this where the ooboontoo are
[01:18] <usr13> mattwj2002: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-mga
[01:18] <stimp> look! it's my ooboontoo friend!
[01:18] <mattwj2002> okay usr13
[01:18] <stimp> we do smol oooboontoo things together, with ooboonto os
[01:18] <mattwj2002> reboot?
[01:18] <hentai_lizard> yoin the server
[01:18] <hentai_lizard> YOIN
[01:19] <stimp> yoin the ooboontoo
[01:19] <usr13> mattwj2002: Yea, after it's done.
[01:19] <hentai_lizard> oo buu nn tuu
[01:19] <usr13> mattwj2002: Let us know....
[01:19] <mattwj2002> rebooting :D
[01:19] <stimp> i have help to obundudu
[01:19] <mattwj2002> will do
[01:19] <hentai_lizard> stimp can i yoin the server
[01:19] <stimp> it's not ooboondoto
[01:19] <mattwj2002> so it isn't intel graphics?
[01:19] <stimp> Obundudu is different from ubuntu?
[01:20] <hentai_lizard> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubooontooo
[01:20] <mattwj2002> I have never heard of matrox or whatever it is called
[01:20] <usr13> Obundudu, Smobundu, what's the difference?
[01:20] <usr13> Did it reboot?
[01:20] <mattwj2002> rebooting at the moment
[01:20] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:20] <stimp> systemd
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> yenital yousting
[01:21] <stimp> this is where is update , the free "OBUNDUDU"
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> unity desktop
[01:21] <lukkan99> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/183449927047708672/234470082355396608/Screenshot_10.png
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> stimp uses unity desktop!
[01:21] <stimp> no!
[01:21] <stimp> this is lies!
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> yes!
[01:21] <hentai_lizard> it is true!
[01:21] <stimp> unity is botnet!
[01:22] <hentai_lizard> stimp uses botnet
[01:22] <stimp> never
[01:22] <hentai_lizard> always
[01:22] <stimp> debian/xfce master race
[01:22]  * mattwj2002 prefers skynet ;)
[01:22] <usr13> mattwj2002: xserver-xorg-video-mga is "Xorg  driver  for Matrox video cards".  See: https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/xenial/xserver-xorg-video-mga
[01:22] <hentai_lizard> ooo nity
[01:22] <john_s> don' t remember what matrox is.
[01:22] <JewLies> Adolf Hitler - "You Said I Was A Dreamer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
[01:23] <mattwj2002> thanks usr13
[01:23] <stimp> Official "OBUNDUDU" Amazon Botner (Free download) [FREE]
[01:23] <mattwj2002> it worked
[01:23] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:23] <usr13> mattwj2002: Ok. good.
[01:23] <stimp> install gentoo
[01:23] <mattwj2002> sweetness :)
[01:24] <usr13> john_s: It's a video card.  (One that mattwj2002 has).
[01:24] <mattwj2002> I probably won't use the graphics a lot but it will be nice when I do know that it is fixed
[01:24] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:24] <usr13> john_s: VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200eW WPCM450
[01:24] <mattwj2002> *now not know
[01:24] <john_s> usr13: well that I remember, I just didn't remember they were their own chipset manufactorer.
[01:24] <usr13> mattwj2002: Oh yea..
[01:25] <usr13> john_s: I don't know much about either, but google does ;)
[01:25] <mattwj2002> lspci was the key :D
[01:25] <usr13> Yup
[01:25] <stimp> hentai_lizard submits to the botnet!
[01:26] <john_s> usr13: if you want to know, my GTX 950 is not getting loaded in glxinfo.
[01:26] <mattwj2002> this server was nice for the price
[01:26] <john_s> usr13: apparently I need a newer kernel but the one I tried didn't boot.
[01:26] <mattwj2002> free is always good :)
[01:26] <usr13> mattwj2002: Well, you have to correctly identify the hardware and then go about trying to access it properly.
[01:27] <mattwj2002> granted the hard drives were bad....and I had to reseat the memory and what not but now it appears to work
[01:27] <john_s> usr13: but unpacking stuff when I have a snapshot loaded on the same disk as the root volume is not a good idea, so I thought to merge the snapshot first.
[01:27] <mattwj2002> true dat usr13
[01:27] <usr13> john_s: lspci |& termbin.com 9999
[01:27] <john_s> no
[01:27] <john_s> however merging the snapshot takes half of my life.
[01:27] <usr13> john_s: Ok.
[01:27] <JewBanker666> There will come a day, when all the lies will collapse under their own weight and the truth will triumph again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s "Adolf Hitler's Warning"
[01:28] <stimp> gento
[01:28] <john_s> mostly because the opensuse dvd was gone, CRAP why can't I burn some DVD?????
[01:28] <usr13> john_s: merge on....
[01:29] <usr13> john_s: Maybe you should try another distro?
[01:29] <john_s> then the kubuntu stick I have that I got to boot in rescue mode didn't work.
[01:29] <john_s> so I had to reboot into live dvd
[01:29] <john_s> then making a backup to the usb stick fails
[01:29] <kyfish> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s "Adolf Hitler's Warning" (YOU CAN'T CENSOR THE TRUTH.)
[01:29] <john_s> now writing a dvd fails.
[01:30] <john_s> the other DVD writer won't even read the dual layer disc.
[01:30] <john_s> the other one is loading the kubuntu dvd
[01:30] <john_s> that's already 3 different dvd writers
[01:30] <john_s> one left
[01:31] <usr13> john_s: You don't have to tell us every detail.
[01:31] <john_s> well you don't have to tell me what to do constantly you know....
[01:31] <usr13> ok
[01:31] <usr13> It's a deal.
[01:33] <john_s> forgot, the 4th dvd player is with the police (they like to steal those things) :p.
[01:34] <john_s> lol
[01:34] <john_s> sorry
[01:35] <red8878> It looks like the Internet has exposed our lies. We're going down fast. Adolf Hitler; Feel the power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fAu3H-kkyg
[01:35] <mattwj2002> what is with the dang hitler crap?
[01:36] <cygnus1412> hi everyone
[01:36] <mattwj2002> hey cygnus1412
[01:38] <cygnus1412> i have an issue with sound with ubuntu 14.04
[01:38] <usr13> !sound | cygnus1412
[01:39] <ravenM>  Holocaust Hoax & Zionist WW2 Lies Exposed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160 This documentary was banned in many countries in an attempt to 'hide the truth'. A must watch for all.
[01:39] <Bashing-om> mattwj2002: "do not feed the trolls " Ops will take in the situation .
[01:39] <john_s> that' s not feeding any trolls, they are bots.
[01:40] <mattwj2002> sorry wasn't trying to feed the trolls
[01:40] <john_s> have some self respect mattwj2002
[01:40] <john_s> you don't have to apologize for everything :p.
[01:41] <cygnus1412> when i resume from sleep the sound output chnages from speakers to "analog output"
[01:41] <mattwj2002> sorry about that haha :P
[01:41] <cygnus1412> and i have to to sound settings to change it manually to speakers
[01:43] <krag> We've been lied to on massive scales by jew supremacists using money power to enslave and destroy the entire planet.
[01:44] <john_s> so 2 dvds ruined, what do I do now? Oh, troubleshoot in Windows 10... :(. However merging a 4GB snapshot takes about an hour :(. Last time I did that I guess. Advice: do not create snapshots on the same disk as the origin.
[01:44] <usr13> john_s: What are you doing with DVDs?
[01:45] <john_s> usr13: just trying to burn the opensuse dvd I can't find anymore.
[01:45] <usr13> john_s: Are trying to create install media?
[01:45] <usr13> john_s: If so, why not just use a thumb drive?
[01:45] <john_s> usr13: just replacing a disk.
[01:46] <john_s> usr13: cause I don't have thumb drives lying about and they are not really suited for having many of them.
[01:46] <JohnMcClain> I like using thumb drives for going 'live'
[01:47] <john_s> I use them for installing simple system on them but then the writes mess up the allocation algorithm and the thing slows down to a crawl.
[01:47] <john_s> also I don't have usb3...
[01:47] <usr13> john_s: But you can just keep the ISOs on your computer and dd to a thumb drive when you need to use one of them.
[01:48] <JohnMcClain> DVD 24x (fastest) write speed is 33.24MB/s. USB 2.0 write speed is up to 35MB/s.
[01:48] <JohnMcClain> sorry. that's writing.
[01:48] <Retr0> I've always used a thumb drive
[01:48] <john_s> that would just be too troublesome, sorry...
[01:48] <john_s> I might do that with sd cards though, but too slow and last time it didn't work.
[01:48] <ikonia> SD is quicker than DVD
[01:49] <JohnMcClain> fastest DVD is 24x? It still caps out at 32MBS
[01:49] <usr13> I seldom even use DVDs for DVD Videos, thumb drives are just fine for that too.
[01:49] <usr13> in most cases.
[01:49] <john_s> not if you have to write them first using some 7MB/s controller and
[01:49] <JohnMcClain> SD cards go up to 50MBS
[01:50] <john_s> IF the opensuse dvd has a rescue mode that is fast, it takes less than a minute to boot it anyway.
[01:50] <john_s> maybe the debian dvds have it.... I think they do?
[01:51] <john_s> what is faster, taking a DVD out of a map, and running the 50MB rescue system off of it (so to speak), or first writing it using a running system and then reboot and then boot it?
[01:52] <john_s> also, what is the point of a rescue system if you need a running system to create it every time...
[01:53] <john_s> seriously didn't expect a 4GB snapshot merge to take an hour .... :(.
[01:54] <ikonia> john_s: I'm not sure what you're atually asking of the ubuntu support community ?
[01:55] <john_s> well I don't think I asked you, but if the others don't have a problem with me talking to them that' s fine with me. Also, this is just the aftermath of the advice I got here.
[01:55] <ikonia> again, I'm not sure what you're asking the ubuntu community (this channel)
[01:55] <john_s> again, see the above line.
[01:55] <JohnMcClain> He wants to vent and wants validation, I think.
[01:55] <ikonia> john_s: - the channel is for ubuntu support discussion, so I'd appreciate it if you could clarify what you're asking of the ubuntu support community please
[01:56] <john_s> what does validation even mean?
[01:56] <ikonia> john_s: lets cut to the chase, what do you want from this channel ?
[01:56] <soralin> hey all, I was in here yesterday with a rando mfreezing problem on ubuntu 16.04, I was recommended to get journald persisitant logging going.
[01:56] <john_s> there is no chase.
[01:56] <soralin> because cronlog and syslog weren't showing anything interesting and I tested all my hardware, it all seems to be fine
[01:57] <john_s> this is the aftermath of spending two hours on getting a GTX 950 running in X with D3D support.
[01:57] <ikonia> john_s: ok, then please be quiet unless you actually have something that is ontopic for this channel please
[01:57] <soralin> so I just got another freeze and here's what journald gives me: not much
[01:57] <john_s> I would appreciate it if you didn't try to shut people up for no reason Ikonia.
[01:57] <elGALLO_> anyone know how to give other computers permission to see files? Ubuntu server no GUI, mac OS X finder
[01:57] <ikonia> john_s: I'm asking you to be quiet unless it's ontopic due to the channels rules and guidelines
[01:57] <ikonia> !guidelines | john_s
[01:58] <ikonia> elGALLO_: how is the mac reading the file systems ?
[01:58] <john_s> I don't think there is any reason to be quiet Ikonia if no one takes offense and if the talk actually does not take away from what anyone else needs from this channel either, please.
[01:58] <JohnMcClain> I know this is a stupid question, but would a PHP application see difficulty in upgrading from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04?
[01:58] <elGALLO_> pfft idk, i used http://askubuntu.com/questions/463486/can-no-longer-use-screen-share-to-connect-mac-to-ubuntu-since-upgrading-to-14-04 last time
[01:58] <ikonia> john_s: the topic is ubuntu support discussion, check the guidelines ubottu just sent you, please stick to that
[01:59] <elGALLO_> but that was with 14.04 LTS server with a desktop GUi
[01:59] <john_s> yes and I am using an Ubuntu system and I am troubleshooting how to get back on where I was before and reporting on that.
[01:59] <elGALLO_> not 16.04.1 server CLI only
[01:59] <elGALLO_> now*
[01:59] <ikonia> john_s: ok - so ask the question you need help with, rather than just talk into the air
[01:59] <ikonia> JohnMcClain: ubutnu 14.04 uses php 5 ubuntu 16.04 uses php 7
[01:59] <ikonia> JohnMcClain: there are differences
[01:59] <john_s> Just because you weren't here does not mean it is not relevant to this channel.
[01:59] <JohnMcClain> Oh. I thought I could run 5 on both.
[01:59] <ikonia> john_s: either ask the question or please be quiet,
[02:00] <soralin> so heres the only thing journald gave me that was missing from syslog/cronlog:
[02:00] <john_s> this question has already been asked, could you please stop polluting this channel yourself with senseless noise?
[02:00] <soralin> Nov 19 18:35:40 Shiva systemd[1]: Started Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service.
[02:00] <ikonia> JohnMcClain: you can, you just need to specify the php version in 16.04
[02:00] <JohnMcClain> john_s: It's really hard to get ikonia's attention when you're arguing with others
[02:00] <Bashing-om> JohnMcClain: Might also look at the release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes . I can accept a lot of differences between upstart and systemd in managing php .
[02:00] <JohnMcClain> ikonia: Thanks
[02:00] <soralin> that was about 5 seconds before my crash, and that doesnt show up in syslog
[02:00] <ikonia> john_s: what is the actual question
[02:01] <john_s> I have no interest in asking this question of you Ikonia, the question has already been asked and you do not need to jump in.
[02:01] <JohnMcClain> Bashing-om: Sorry... Upstart and Systemd?
[02:02] <JohnMcClain> If I read that link, that will explain it in specifics?
[02:02] <JohnMcClain> Neat. Thanks!
[02:02] <soralin> so yeah, I cant figure out whats making my system freeze anymore, Ive troubleshooted all the way I can go
[02:04] <Bashing-om> JohnMcClain: In 14.04 the initiate system os upstart, while 16.04 is systemd .. also in 16.04 systemd controlls the services .
[02:04] <elGALLO_>   anyone have an idea how to set up http://askubuntu.com/questions/463486/can-no-longer-use-screen-share-to-connect-mac-to-ubuntu-since-upgrading-to-14-04 via CLi?
[02:05] <soralin> atm I have a bash script written to pip the latest 30 mins of journald out to a text file, Ill do that for the next 3-4 crashes, see if I can see a pattern
[02:07] <soralin> I've checked memtest, SSD health, PSU voltages, syslog/cronlog/journald dont have anything suspicious happening during crash, and my GPU works fine on windows
[02:08] <soralin> all that remains is maybe it's just my mobo finally getting old, do you think?
[02:08] <soralin> oh also GPU/CPU temps are fine
[02:15] <zztopless> hi, does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[02:18] <sriniwas> Hello
[02:19] <sriniwas> can someone tell me where I can download snaps to install offline
[02:19] <mattwj2002> can someone explain snaps to me?
[02:19] <mattwj2002> :)
[02:19] <mattwj2002> is that a replacement for .deb packages?
[02:19] <sriniwas> yes
[02:21] <sriniwas> I have a computer at home with no internet connection and I want to install apps on it.
[02:22] <lordcirth> mattwj2002, the idea with snaps is to be portable across all linux systems that support snaps, unlike deb, rpm, etc
[02:23] <mattwj2002> thanks lordcirth :)
[02:23] <lordcirth> ironically, there are 3 or 4 systems competing to be that portable standard.
[02:32] <nightwalkerkg> Hi, i have win and ubuntu dual boot on my pc. But since i got my new laptop i want to use ubuntu on it and have only windows on my desktop PC. I removed the partitions but i forgot i formated my windows usb. I tried using boot-repair and dd-ing mbr.bin into /dev/sda but i still get grub resuce with the message that my partition is not found. I ran fdisk -l and found that  Boot is on /dev/sda4 wher my 3 partitions used to be. My 
[02:32] <nightwalkerkg> But my windows is on /dev/sda2 and /sda1 is for windows filesystem.
[02:33] <nightwalkerkg> How do i fix this ?
[02:33] <zztopless> Do you just need to recreate a windows USB boot stick?
[02:34] <zztopless> if so, use virtualbox or vmware to create the ntfs boot usb needed (use the official MS tool for windows 10, rufus for other versions)
[02:36] <nightwalkerkg> zztopless: anything i can do just to get it to work
[02:37] <nightwalkerkg> I used to have a bootable win installation usb, so i could just get to the command prompt and fix mbr using bootrec.
[02:37] <nightwalkerkg> But i formated that usb drive.
[02:40] <edve> Use an ISO of the windows image on it
[02:43] <red_shift> hey ikonia
[02:43] <red_shift> how come you and Anastasius never played that game of Monopoly as promised?
[02:44] <red_shift> When are you planning on doing that?
[02:44] <red_shift> hmmmm?
[02:50] <zubenelgenubi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYvtwLlsWAg
[02:54] <lukkan99> https://discord.gg/rn2srqJ
[02:58] <zubenelgenubi> i have a question about ubuntu if anyone's around to anser it
[02:58] <zubenelgenubi> anyone?
[02:58] <sriniwas> I'll try.
[02:59] <zubenelgenubi> sriniwas: are you an ubuntu professional support person?
[02:59] <sriniwas> no.
[02:59] <zubenelgenubi> because my question might get a bit complicated
[02:59] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, just ask the question
[02:59] <zubenelgenubi> okay, my question is, why do people still use it?
[03:00] <sriniwas> I am on linuxmint now
[03:00] <sriniwas> and also debian
[03:00] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, 'it' being Ubuntu?  That is an open-ended question, and not on topic here, either.
[03:01] <zubenelgenubi> lordcirth: Bucking for council status are you?
[03:01] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, a troll, are you?
[03:01] <sriniwas> fun, it is
[03:01] <zubenelgenubi> nah, I'm just asking why people still use it.
[03:01] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <zubenelgenubi> Yeah, I heard that 9 years ago, too.
[03:02] <lordcirth> zubenelgenubi, this is the Ubuntu support channel, not the chat or debate channel, sorry.
[03:02] <zubenelgenubi> Anyone who's dissatisfied with the level of support here should join ##club-nomicon
[03:03] <zubenelgenubi> That means most of you, I think.
[03:04] <jpd> hello world,  I am rusty on irc usage.  How can connect to another userid?
[03:04] <zubenelgenubi> All hail elky, arbitrator or what is good and bad.
[03:04] <lordcirth> jpd, you mean a private message to someone? '/query username'
[03:06] <jpd> thx
[03:06] <zubenelgenubi> ikonia: You still owe me  a friendly game of Monopoly.
[03:07] <zubenelgenubi> http://i.imgur.com/IBXFX.jpg
[03:18] <lukkan99> https://discord.gg/rn2srqJ
[03:19] <lukkan99> join for a comfy time
[03:21] <rene_> hola
[03:21] <lordcirth> lukkan99, that's not on topic here, I think
[03:25] <rjromero> is Slack really just IRC over some pretty node-webkit?
[03:28] <zztopless> hi, does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[03:30] <hhee> guys. after 12 lts support time closed - does it repo will be accessible?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> hhee, no, that's what closed mean.  old repos are retired eventually
[03:31] <cfhowlett> hhee, suggestion: upgrade to 14.04 or 16.04
[03:32] <Bashing-om> hhee: Shortly there after, the repo will be turned away to old-releases . The 12.04 repo will no longer exist .
[03:33] <hhee> cfhowlett, Bashing-om got it thx
[03:33] <lordcirth> rjromero, well it also lets you send images and stuff, some apis, etc.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> hhee, happy2help1
[03:33] <lordcirth> rjromero, check out mattermost for a self-hosted Slack
[03:38] <vahe> hi, how fix ? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lvorbisfile
[03:40] <Bashing-om> vahe: Context ?
[03:41] <vahe> I'm trying to make compile
[03:45] <lordcirth> vahe, install libvorbis-dev, perhaps?
[03:46] <vahe> lordcirth: thanks it helped libvorbis-dev :)
[03:54] <tarvid> "The canary thread is apparently starving" after which compiz commits suicide.
[03:55] <blacknode> hi I'm blacknode
[03:55] <blacknode> from indonesia
[03:55] <blacknode> ubuntu forum?
[03:56] <tarvid> hi blacknode , I'm jim from Virginia USA
[03:56] <blacknode> hi tarvid
[03:56] <blacknode> from USA
[03:56] <blacknode> nice to meet you jim
[03:57] <tarvid> nice to meet you too
[03:57] <tarvid> How is life in Indonesia?
[03:57] <blacknode> is good life in here
[03:58] <blacknode> how about you?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> guys, please chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  this is the ubuntu support channel.  thank you.
[03:58] <blacknode> upss... sorry
[03:59] <tarvid> then tell me how to debug rtkit freezes
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !rkhunter | tarvid
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !info rkhunter > tarvid
[04:01] <lukkan99> GARFIELD KART!!!!!
[04:01] <EMPHASIS> Is there an Intel assembler instruction to lock a program so it can't be time-sliced out?  I wanto protect "get a shared var", "add 1", "replace var", in hypercritical code that I don't want to use semaphores for.
[04:02] <moneybags_> could someone please assist me with getting linux to recognize my sd card reader  (linux newbie here :))
[04:03] <blacknode> hi money bags, I have same problem with you
[04:03] <blacknode> any assist us
[04:03] <stimp> GARFIELD ???
[04:03] <stimp> Is garfield ,, get stronger?
[04:03] <moneybags_> good to know im in good company :)
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !OT | stimp,
[04:03] <stimp> Please tofree download , GARFIELD KART Free the free (FREE) Obundudu OS
[04:04] <EMPHASIS> moneybags_ : happened to me, then found other devices couldn't read it either (two other cameras). :(
[04:05] <moneybags_> no its not the card itself, ive verified that much already
[04:05] <moneybags_> needing to look at my trail cam pics for hunting tomorrow :)
[04:07] <tarvid> is pulse evil? My machine used to stutter and one of the suggestions was to kill pulse
[04:07] <EMPHASIS> moneybags_ : Do other SD cards work in PC?
[04:08] <lordcirth> EMPHASIS, you might want a programming channel for that
[04:08] <EMPHASIS> lordcirth : I found #intel - would that be OK?
[04:09] <Amr787> Hi
[04:09] <cfhowlett> tarvid, evil? no.
[04:09] <lordcirth> EMPHASIS, maybe.  also:
[04:09] <lordcirth> !alis | EMPHASIS
[04:09] <stimp> OOBOONTOO
[04:09] <cfhowlett> stimp, stop it
[04:09] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[04:10] <Amr787> Can usual ubuntu softwares be installed on ubuntu phone?
[04:10] <lukkan99> HONK HONK
[04:10] <stimp> isda,s obundudu OS compatible,, ? with (bean) computer device ? please to answrr , son in ARABIA is want know
[04:10] <lukkan99> did someone say bean
[04:10] <lukkan99> dont let me bean you
[04:10] <lukkan99> and make beaned
[04:10] <stimp> It is makes stupid
[04:11] <stimp> D e b i a n     m a s t e r    r a c e
[04:11] <lukkan99> ^^
[04:11] <lukkan99> velcom do vindolu techical support
[04:11] <Amr787> Why unity 8 is so different?...will snap  come to phone?
[04:11] <stimp> Is this where i get help compiling my gentoo kernel
[04:12] <Amr787> Stimp lol
[04:12] <moneybags_> no other cards work emphasis
[04:12] <ObrienDave> no feeding the troll
[04:12] <stimp> i-i just need help compiling my gentoo kernel ;__;
[04:15] <lukkan99> is hare i get debian=
[04:15] <lukkan99> ?*
[04:15] <stimp> i want to download "GENTOO" os ,,,,,,,,,, please to tell location of file
[04:15] <lukkan99> i linus noob
[04:16] <moneybags_> lukkan99 no
[04:16] <moneybags_> try #debian
[04:16] <stimp> this is #debian
[04:16] <lordcirth> Don't feed the trolls
[04:16] <moneybags_> oops sorry
[04:16] <lukkan99> but this debain
[04:16] <lukkan99> linux told me
[04:16] <stimp> this is not "linux"
[04:16] <moneybags_> lord can you help me get my sd card reader recognized ?
[04:16] <stimp> you are say name wrong
[04:17] <stimp> it is called THE GNU OPERATING SYSTEM..,,
[04:17] <stimp> and it is right sanswer
[04:17] <lukkan99> oh
[04:17] <lukkan99> whare do i get linux?
[04:17] <stimp> the gnu opersating system
[04:17] <lukkan99> is it linus?
[04:17] <stimp> i compiled gnu kernel "kernel"
[04:18] <stimp> i am of linus
[04:19] <lukkan99> how do i compile my hard drive?
[04:19] <stimp> first if you are windows xp user
[04:19] <stimp> i am send you compile too "GCC" from "STALL MAN'
[04:20] <stimp> it is run gentoo kernel, and you are compile the hard drive from foot gunk
[04:20] <stimp> (WINXP USER ONLY)
[04:20] <lukkan99> http://store.steampowered.com/app/362930/?l=swedish
[04:20] <lukkan99> the true linux
[04:21] <stimp> the real of gnu kernel, it is gentoo, compile from a "GCC" of stsall, man,
[04:21] <lordcirth> modcall ?
[04:21] <krytarik> lordcirth: Yes.
[04:21] <stimp> you of not learn te "GENTO," os , itis mod is dame
[04:22] <stimp> why you discuss "OBUNDUDU" poperating system  , this is DEBIAN channel.....
[04:22] <stimp> heavily unix
[04:22] <kk4ewt> stimp lol
[04:22] <krytarik> !ops
[04:23] <lukkan99> chenny lol
[04:23] <stimp> visual studio lol
[04:23] <stimp> works UBUNTU os...
[04:24] <elky> lukkan99: what exactly do you think you're doing?
[04:24] <lukkan99> awoo
[04:25] <lukkan99> why lol
[04:25] <lukkan99> i talking in hare lol
[04:25] <lukkan99> lol
[04:25] <stimp> please, is download and help me to compile it,,,,,,,, ENTOO KENEEL
[04:25] <stimp> i am know, this is DEBIAN chanlelel, but it is need help to kernel compile in GENTOO lol
[04:26] <elky> stimp: this is the ubuntu channel. it is not the debian channel. it is not the gentoo channel
[04:26] <stimp> no, you are of making mistake
[04:26] <lukkan99> it is linux told me
[04:26] <elky> if you want offtopic talk choose one of those distro names and add -offtopic, eg #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:26] <lukkan99> linux never lies
[04:26] <lukkan99> lol
[04:26] <stimp> it is GENTOO linus DEBIAN HELP DESK
[04:26] <stimp> llol
[04:26] <stimp> this isNOT obundudu os channel
[04:26] <elky> lukkan99: likewise, but please no nsfw minecraft screenshots this time.
[04:26] <lukkan99> elky lol
[04:27] <stimp> elky lol
[04:27] <lukkan99> are you form disscord
[04:27] <stimp> welomc to botnet ,,
[04:27] <elky> no and you're not to spam that anymore either
[04:27] <stimp> i love elky
[04:27] <elky> stimp: who is the botnet?
[04:28] <stimp> you please , to the botnet
[04:28] <stimp> it is known of a fact, a n envelope
[04:28] <cfhowlett> tyvm elky
[04:29] <elky> stimp: please take a look at the topic and read the rules before you do anything else.
[04:29] <moneybags_> can anyone assist me with getting ubuntu to recognize my card reader?
[04:29] <elky> lukkan99: please also read the topic and the riles before anything else.
[04:30] <elky> rule*
[04:30] <lukkan99> elky how did you know abute me spaming that pic before
[04:30] <lukkan99> are you a discord user?
[04:30] <moneybags_> lukkan pls go away
[04:30] <elky> lukkan99: because you were being such a problem i looked what else you did in my logs
[04:30] <moneybags_> people actually need help
[04:31] <cfhowlett> lukkan99, this channel is logged and publicly viewable.  behave acordingly
[04:31] <lukkan99> lol
[04:32] <elky> read the rules.
[04:32] <stimp> let's just do little comfy things, no need to be mad! :3
[04:38] <moneybags_> can anyone assist me with getting ubuntu to recognize my card reader?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> USB or internal?
[04:39] <moneybags_> usb
[04:39] <moneybags_> well its internaL
[04:39] <moneybags_> but a google search said it might be a USB on the motherboard ?
[04:39] <ObrienDave> try moving the cable to a different port
[04:39] <moneybags_> hp pavillion p6000
[04:40] <kk4ewt> moneybags_,  paste the output of lsusb and lspci
[04:41] <kk4ewt> (using a pastebin not in the channel)
[04:41] <moneybags_> us 002 Device 003: ID 05dc:a81d Lexar Media, Inc.  Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 002: ID 04f2:0841 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd HP Multimedia Keyboard Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, I
[04:41] <moneybags_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 5) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [
[04:42] <kk4ewt> (using a pastebin not in the channel)
[04:42] <ObrienDave> *sigh*
[04:42] <moneybags_> ok sorry
[04:43] <moneybags_> http://pastebin.com/NGdSixEm
[05:02] <xxxx_> the easy way to explain this without "ask-answers": i born yesterday nude in a jungle with 100kb p/second wifi, i don't know anything, i have a 64-bit Acer-laptop with 2RAM and hardware mega-shitty-2000 (no more specs than that), a 16g $10 USB with Fedora(new) and for some bizzare and magical reason 1 HOLE WEEK! of LINUX (ubuntu 16.04LTS and right now-16.1) experience. NEED TO FORMAT HARD DISK TO 0 WITH THE RIGHT CONFIGURATION, NO NEED TO SAVE ANYTHING AND
[05:02] <xxxx_> INSTALL FEDORA, IN A 50/100 PARTITION OF MY HARDDRIVE WITHOUT PROBLEMS LIKE FEDORA CANNOT FIND THE .ISO AND USE A BASIC STABLE LINUX TO GAIN EXPERIENCE BEFORE A NEW COMPUTER, MONEY AND UBUNTU.. and kill the demon to hack the infernal gods. ???
[05:02] <zztopless> hi, does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[05:03] <lordcirth> xxxx_, please do not 'shout' in all caps
[05:04] <glitchd> so i have a setup like this desktop->2gb ram->400gb_hd->sda1_4gb-swap->sda2 217gb_void_linux->sda3_145gb_ubuntu-16.04.1. My question is, can both installs use the same swap partition since they wont be running at the same time?
[05:04] <lordcirth> glitchd, yes
[05:04] <xxxx_> understandable resons (make my point simply-clear and not to more text than needed)
[05:04] <lordcirth> glitchd, no state is preserved between reboots, *unless* you hibernate to disk
[05:04] <glitchd> lordcirth, geeze that was a quick answer lol
[05:04] <lordcirth> glitchd, so as long as you don't hibernate, it will be fine
[05:05] <glitchd> lordcirth, thats what i thought, but i wanted to make sure
[05:05] <freecoder> hi. i am trying to run Intel VTune Amplifier on my Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit system. I get the following error when I try to open a project in vtune - https://bpaste.net/show/b09b1e878764
[05:05] <glitchd> lordcirth, awesome, thanks for the super quick answer. much appreciated.
[05:05] <lordcirth> glitchd, np
[05:06] <glitchd> im just gonna hangout in here nd try to learn=)
[05:06] <lordcirth> xxxx_, to clarify, you have a USB with Fedora on it, and a hard drive with Ubuntu on it, and you want to install Fedora?
[05:06] <freecoder> i installed libstdc++6 package using apt but the issue still persists
[05:09] <Bashing-om> !info libproxy1v5
[05:10] <xxxx_> oh, one more thing... ubuntu on hard drive (i'm right now in it), fedora .iso on USB and ubuntu have almost all space.. need to delete-it, install fedora inside 50/100 partition of disk..
[05:10] <Bashing-om> freecoder: This : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libproxy.so.1&mode=filename&suite=yakkety&arch=any ?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, for assistance installing fedora, ask #fedora?
[05:11] <freecoder> Bashing-om, it is already installed - "libproxy1v5 is already the newest version (0.4.11-5ubuntu1)."
[05:11] <xxxx_> the problem is not that, cannot format my hard-drive - no matter if i install ubuntu again for example
[05:12] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, linux USB.  boot gparted.  format hdd.  done.
[05:12] <lordcirth> xxxx_, or any of the installers, Ubuntu or Fedora, will let you delete partitions
[05:13] <xxxx_> i have the probmen with ubuntu that cannot reboot, or turn off and i read that the problem is the partition itself, but if i have ubuntu in the hole disk, how can i re-parted?
[05:14] <lordcirth> xxxx_, you can't reboot ?  What happens when you try?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, make an ubuntu/fedora USB.  of COURSE you cannot delete the partition while booted from ubuntu - the system is live!  and it's protecting itself from - well - you.  boot from USB
[05:14] <xxxx_> i'll try that cfhowlett
[05:15] <xxxx_> ubuntu logo, freezes... forever
[05:16] <cfhowlett> xxxx_,  you mean in the 45 seconds since your last message? that ain't forever
[05:16] <glitchd> ..lol
[05:17] <xxxx_> when turn off, go to the ubuntu logo and freezes until i turn off from the power button
[05:17] <Bashing-om> freecoder: Beats me at this time .. gcc version mismatch ?.. but I do not know .
[05:17] <glitchd> xxxx_, are you still on the usb?
[05:17] <xxxx_> i'm in the hard drive :S
[05:18] <glitchd> xxxx_, i think some process is still running then
[05:18] <xxxx_> the usb are in other place, a meter from me
[05:18] <glitchd> xxxx_, how long did u wait for it to shutdown before force killing it?
[05:19] <xxxx_> click-shut down, shut down again... seconds, ubuntu logo - freezes (maybe 10s)
[05:20] <xxxx_> the all process
[05:20] <glitchd> xxxx_, are you expecting it to be instant when you click shutdown?
[05:21] <lordcirth> xxxx_, if you hit Escape, you may be able to see some output about anything that might be slowing it down.
[05:21] <xxxx_> nope, i let some times like hour or the time i go to the store
[05:21] <wax> Hey folks! I'm having trouble getting Ubuntu to connect to a Windows file share I have open. I tried using "Connect to Server" and it gives me a different errors depending on if I use IP or the computer's name. I tried using a guide that adds the share to the fstab file and it didn't work for me, either.
[05:21] <glitchd> wax, install samba
[05:21] <cfhowlett> xxxx_, sudo shutdown -r         will return useful info
[05:21] <xxxx_> wait, i have the link for make me explain better...
[05:21] <xxxx_> done!, nothing.
[05:22] <freecoder> Bashing-om, ok so I followed instructions at https://forums.xilinx.com/t5/Embedded-Development-Tools/GLIBCXX-3-4-20-not-found/m-p/673213#M38675 where a similar issue is encountered - basically make the libstdc++.so.6 in the vtune installation to point to the one in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[05:22] <wax> I installed smbclient as part of the guide, is that samba?
[05:22] <freecoder> the issue seems to have been resolved :)
[05:22] <glitchd> xxxx_, are you trying to shutdown the computer youre using to chat on?
[05:22] <xxxx_> nope, and i installed ubuntu this week like 7 times
[05:23] <glitchd> xxxx_, its another computer then?
[05:23] <glitchd> xxxx_, is it a different computer?
[05:24] <xxxx_> just one computer with ubuntu
[05:24] <Bashing-om> freecoder: When you are good, you are good .. pleased ya gave the solution .
[05:24] <glitchd> xxxx_, so then back to my other question, are you typing in these shutdown commands on the computer youre using to talk to us on?
[05:25] <xxxx_> no, hours ago
[05:25] <cfhowlett> ???
[05:25] <wax> Okay, I just installed samba and am still having the same problems.
[05:25] <wax> When I use the computer's name, it says it can't find a path. When I use the computer's IP, it asks me to login and then just hangs.
[05:26] <glitchd> wax, i believe you have to configure samba, but i may be wrong
[05:26] <wax> Oh?
[05:26] <glitchd> wax, im not sure..
[05:26] <lordcirth> Samba server needs configuration.  Client should just work
[05:26] <wax> It looks like configuring it is for setting up the samba share on the Ubuntu system.
[05:27] <glitchd> wax, i dont use samba per say, my machine just access the windows partitions normally
[05:27] <wax> But the client's not just working. T.T
[05:27] <glitchd> wax, do you have windows 10?
[05:27] <lordcirth> wax, yes.  Did you install the 'smbclient' package?
[05:27] <wax> Yeah. And I have smbclient installed, yeah.
[05:27] <wax> Windows 10.
[05:28] <lordcirth> wax, try using smb-client from the command line, perhaps you will get more useful errors
[05:28] <wax> Okay, let me see if I can figure that out.
[05:28] <glitchd> well if your machine is using secure boot, then when exiting windows you must choose restart and not shutdown.
[05:28] <glitchd> otherwise you will not be able to access the windows partitions from ubuntu
[05:28] <glitchd> unless you disable secureboot
[05:29] <glitchd> windows is weird, in windows 10 when you shutdown, it trys to load a bit of info into memory to make the os boot up faster, to get around this you must choose reboot.
[05:30] <lordcirth> glitchd, he's trying to connect to a separate windows machine, I think, not local partitions
[05:30] <lordcirth> Why would he need samba for that?
[05:30] <glitchd> ohhh...
[05:30] <glitchd> i thought it was the same pc
[05:30] <glitchd> my bad..
[05:31] <lordcirth> no, samba is for network shares, SMB protocol
[05:31] <glitchd> my bad my bad my bad
[05:31] <lordcirth> it's ok
[05:31] <xxxx_> got it! " PowerPC
[05:31] <xxxx_>     Choosing an Entire Disk install on PowerPC will result in an un-bootable system. The work around is to manually partition your hard disk and create a 1GB ext2 /boot partition. One also needs to move /etc/yaboot.conf to /boot/etc/yaboot.conf and symlink it back. (1606089) """ is in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes and that's why i'm thinking reboot problem are because i use all disk space to it
[05:32] <wax> Ok, we got some pretty interesting errors with just smbclient -L [ip]
[05:32] <lordcirth> xxxx_, you are running a ppc machine?  I don't think you mentioned that
[05:32] <wax> Connection to [ip] failed (Error NT_STATUS_RESOURCE_NAME_NOT_FOUND) and NetBIOS over TCP disabled -- no workgroup available.
[05:33] <lordcirth> see, that's googleable now :)
[05:33] <ObrienDave> google knows all ;P
[05:34] <glitchd> lol
[05:34] <xxxx_> like i'm said, the story i tell in the firs place are not too far to rality -- no idea the ppc? i't some like PC?
[05:34] <xxxx_> from* reality
[05:34] <lordcirth> xxxx_, powerPC is a CPU architecture used mostly by older 32bit Macs.  Modern PCs are x86.
[05:35] <lordcirth> powerPC may need some special setup to make it work
[05:36] <xxxx_> this computer used to have win7, 64 bit - but the 2ram just make me use a 32 ubuntu to avoid crashes
[05:37] <ObrienDave> only thing Ubuntu available for PPC is server and Mate
[05:37] <zafar> hello? is there anybody in there?
[05:37] <lordcirth> xxxx_, well then it's not powerPC, Windows7 doesn't run on PPC
[05:37] <lordcirth> zafar, many of us
[05:38] <zafar> just nod if you can hear me
[05:38]  * lordcirth nods
[05:39] <xxxx_> oh, then im lost ... every time i reboot" ubuntu something are changed and not ina funtcionaly way
[05:39]  * ObrienDave waves a BIG stick ;P
[05:40] <rebo> hi all
[05:40] <Yasir> Hello!! can you hear me?
[05:40] <rebo> I added a new hard disk, and used "Disks" app to format it as ext4
[05:40] <rebo> This went ok, and I started using it
[05:40] <rebo> now I wanted to add a new partition using gparted
[05:40] <zafar> yasir, yes we do.
[05:40] <rebo> but when I load /dev/sdb in gparted, there doesn't appear to be a partition table
[05:40] <rebo> the file system seems to span the entire disk
[05:40] <xxxx_> but yes, make 50/100 partitions on my disk i think will get me closer to the sove
[05:40] <xxxx_> solve*
[05:40] <rebo> how can I create a pratition table in order to resizes partitions without erasing the whole disk?
[05:41] <xxxx_> gparted ... rebo
[05:41] <lordcirth> rebo, you formatted the raw disk as ext4?
[05:41] <xxxx_> i think
[05:41] <rebo> lordcirth: I think so
[05:41] <lordcirth> That's a bit of puzzle
[05:42] <rebo> the ext4 file systems seems to cover the whole disk
[05:42] <rebo> no partition table
[05:42] <rebo> I didnt think this was even possible
[05:42] <lordcirth> rebo, well, you shouldn't have done that :P  I'm not aware of an easy way to move that without deleting it
[05:42] <lordcirth> rebo, do you have backups?
[05:43] <rebo> the data is perfectly accessible right now
[05:43] <lordcirth> In theory you could shrink it, move it over, then make a partition and move it back, but that's going to take forever, and 1 mistake will nuke it all
[05:43] <rebo> I tried to shrink it in gparted, but the new free space is simply lost
[05:44] <rebo> I had to "check" partition, which simply goes back to how it was
[05:44] <ra21vi> ubuntu stability and hardware support is less predictable on stability than android... New ubuntu installation on dell 7559, sometimes things works, sometimes it doesnt and after restart some again works.
[05:45] <rebo> lordcirth: so you suggest I use another disk to copy data over, recreate the existing disk with proper paritions, and move data back
[05:46] <rebo> is there a way to do it inplace?
[05:46] <lordcirth> rebo, if you have such a disk, that is by far the easiest way
[05:46] <lordcirth> rebo, in theory it is possible in-place, but it will be slow and risky
[05:46] <rebo> hmm i see. I dont understand why the "Disks" app did that in the first place !
[05:47] <lordcirth> rebo, because you told it to, presumably.
[05:47] <lordcirth> Always double-check partitioning
[05:47] <rebo> yes i did. it should have at least warn that there wont be a partition table!
[05:47] <glitchd> sonypoiny
[05:47] <ObrienDave> what size is the drive?
[05:48] <glitchd> lol
[05:48] <rebo> no that big, 256gb
[05:48] <rebo> not*
[05:48] <glitchd> tapped the touch pad with my palm and exited the window i was talking in
[05:48] <lordcirth> rebo, it probably should have, being a supposedly user-friendly GUI tool.  Still, always double-check.
[05:48] <ObrienDave> it should still have a partition table
[05:49] <rebo> ObrienDave: that's the think, it doesnt have one
[05:49] <ra21vi> if I use Ubuntu for servers, without sound and gfx... it works nicely, no much problem, and much preferred. The desktop variant, never worked. Everytime I install it, I have to start searching on SO,Google,BugTracker to solve it. And still not all features can be used. Example Graphics, I pay for best graphics card, but due to available driver, has to be used underperforming. Wireless flickers, update kernel, load/unload kern modules, do this and that
[05:49] <ra21vi> config change, add more software.. and still works unsatisfactorily.
[05:49] <rebo> fdisk -l also says so
[05:49] <lordcirth> rebo, just to double-check, if you do 'ls /dev/sdb*' or whatever the drive is, is there sdb1 ?
[05:49] <piyush> i have installed opera browser on elementary os, i want to hide this boring title bar o the top(window  bar), but right click is not working onthat, on other distros right click works to hide the bar, any other way to hide it in this distro?
[05:49] <rebo> no just /dev/sdb no numbers
[05:50] <rebo> the whole disk is formatted as ext4 file system apparently
[05:50] <ObrienDave> that makes no sense
[05:50] <rebo> I didnt even think this is possible
[05:50] <rebo> I nkow
[05:51] <rebo> I can access the data just fine
[05:52] <glitchd> so i just installed an old 3.5 floppy drive into a desktop to use while modding original xboxs, but it doesnt seem to want to work in ubuntu. i get this message "Error mounting system-managed device /dev/fd0: Command-line `mount "/media/floppy0"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device"
[05:52] <glitchd> is the device bad, or is it just not configured correctly?
[05:52] <Ben64> glitchd: the disk isn't mounting
[05:52] <codfection> [serious question] is linux as secure as macOS ? (your opinions please)
[05:52] <Ben64> codfection: not the place for that discussion
[05:53] <glitchd> Ben64, i realize that,but im trying to figure out if its a problem with the disk drive itself or something else perhaps in ubuntu thats not configured correctly
[05:54] <Ben64> glitchd: probably the disk...
[05:54] <glitchd> the disk, not the drive..?
[05:54] <Ben64> yeah that's usually the problem when a disk doesn't mount
[05:55] <glitchd> Ben64, ok ill attempt to use another disk then, hope youre right
[05:57] <glitchd> Ben64, hmm well either this box of floppies is no good or the drive itself is no good
[05:57] <Ben64> or you're trying to mount it incorrectly
[05:57] <Ben64> would help if you explained what you were trying to do
[05:58] <glitchd> Ben64, im just clicking the floppy drive in the thunar side pane
[05:59] <glitchd> Ben64, just trying to get this floppy to read disks so i can use it work on original xboxs
[05:59] <glitchd> *floppy drive
[05:59] <Ben64> is there data on the disks
[05:59] <glitchd> the drive may be no good tho, i pulled it from an old desktop i had
[05:59] <glitchd> no data on disks, they are fresh from the box
[05:59] <apinsv> How can i configure an Hp Deskjet 2515 printer for scanning over network with Ubuntu 16.04
[05:59] <Ben64> so of course they won't mount
[06:00] <ObrienDave> spend 10 bucks, get a USB floppy drive
[06:00] <Ben64> you need to format them first
[06:00] <glitchd> Ben64, lol i have no idea how to format then in here either
[06:00] <glitchd> beat me to it..
[06:01] <ObrienDave> most floppys are formated for windows out of the box. FAT12 iirc
[06:01] <lordcirth> fat32
[06:02] <Ben64> fat32 didn't exist back then
[06:02] <lordcirth> oh floppys, nvrm
[06:02] <lordcirth> sorry it's 1:00 am here, bye lol
[06:02] <apinsv> please help me ***
[06:02] <ObrienDave> 1.44MB floppy is FAT12 the 2.88MB were FAT16
[06:04] <glitchd> Ben64, on the back of the disk it says ibm formatted, if that means anything..
[06:04] <emanuela> ciao!
[06:04] <ObrienDave> glitchd, that would be FAT12
[06:05] <glitchd> ObrienDave, alrighty then
[06:05] <Ben64> i wouldn't trust it to stay formatted for 20 years, but you could probably check
[06:06] <glitchd> idk should i try formatting them in a windows virtual machine instead of in ubuntu?
[06:06] <glitchd> xubuntu to be more exact
[06:06] <Ben64> no
[06:06] <ObrienDave> glitchd, have you tried to install dosfstools?
[06:06] <glitchd> ObrienDave, no i have no, but i will now
[06:07] <glitchd> ObrienDave, already the newest version
[06:07] <rebo> question, how do I move the swap partition from primary disk to secondary disk?
[06:08] <rebo> do I just recreate a new one and delete the old
[06:08] <glitchd> rebo, i believe just create a new swap on the second disk then deactivate the old and activate the new
[06:08] <rebo> what are the commands to activate/deactivate?
[06:08] <glitchd> rebo, sudo swapoff -a then sudo swapon /dev/sda?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> rebo: and update the /etc/fstab file to point to the new swap partition .
[06:09] <glitchd> rebo, *sudo swapoff -a then sudo swapon /dev/sd?
[06:09] <rebo> thanks I'll give it a try
[06:09] <glitchd> rebo, replace the ? with the number of the partition that lsblk lists
[06:10] <rebo> k
[06:10] <glitchd> rebo, ie-sda1, sda2, etc..
[06:10] <ObrienDave> glitchd, spend 10 bucks, get a USB floppy drive
[06:12] <glitchd> ObrienDave, usb floopy drives wont work for what im doing with them
[06:13] <ObrienDave> Xbox used floppies?
[06:15] <glitchd> ObrienDave, lol no, but when creating new hard drive for the original xbox, i have to use a linux distro called xboxHDM, and the way it works is, the hard drive is locked with a password called the eeprom, i have to put the eeprom on the floppy so it can be accessed with xboxhdm to lock the hard drive to the console
[06:15] <glitchd> ObrienDave, man if i could of just gotten a usb floppy drive it would have made this whole process so much flippin easier
[06:16] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i spent the last month or so looking for parts and pieces to construct this pc, finally have it running, just to find out i can use the floppy drive
[06:16] <ObrienDave> eeprom = Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory ;P
[06:18] <glitchd> ObrienDave, lol thx
[06:18] <ObrienDave> it contains the encryption code to lock the drive
[06:18] <glitchd> ObrienDave, look up creating a new hdd for the original xbox and youll see what im talking about
[06:19] <glitchd> ObrienDave, look on youtube
[06:19] <glitchd> ObrienDave, crap tons of vids on there about it
[06:19] <glitchd> cfhowlett, welcome back=)
[06:20] <cfhowlett> glitchd, greetings!
[06:20] <glitchd> cfhowlett, salutations!
[06:20] <zztopless> Does anyone know the switch to skip all duplicates (ie don't over-ride existing files/folders) when using 7zip from console?  Using the following to extract al 7zip files in a directory: find -type f -name '*.7z' -exec 7z x {} \;
[06:21] <ObrienDave> glitchd, anyway, I understand what you're trying to do, but I know nothing about that level of Xbox. GL
[06:22] <glitchd> ObrienDave, right on, thx=)
[06:22] <cfhowlett> I know there's a linux/xbox forum and probably there is a channel as wel
[06:22] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i think ive been there, but its been a while, care to share a link?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> looking ...
[06:23] <glitchd> thx
[06:24] <cfhowlett> glitchd, so many possibilities!  search xbox + linux for a healthy sample
[06:26] <glitchd> cfhowlett, search where?
[06:26] <ObrienDave> google is your friend LOL
[06:26] <cfhowlett> well I was *trying* not say "google it!" cuz you (should) might use duckduckgo or something similar
[06:27] <glitchd> lol thats what i figured u meant, but i was just making sure
[06:31] <glitchd> cfhowlett, spotty wifi?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> glitchd, nope. fat finger tourette's syndrome - killed my channels
[06:31] <ObrienDave> the great firewall of China ;P
[06:31] <glitchd> cfhowlett, lolololol
[06:31] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, eh? relocated to Tokyo
[06:31] <kostkon> floppy disks, xbox1, unfamiliarity with google... I like this early 2000s retro atmosphere
[06:32] <glitchd> kostkon, whose unfamiliar with google?
[06:32] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, thought you were still in China. It's been a while ;P
[06:33] <JohnMcClain> How's the Ubuntu scene there?
[06:33] <kostkon> glitchd: well someone in here, I won't say who  :P
[06:34] <glitchd> kostkon, lol you came in on the tail end of a convo buddy
[06:34] <glitchd> kostkon, meaning you dont know what youre taking about=)
[06:35] <kostkon> glitchd: seems like it
[06:36] <kostkon> glitchd: oh, well... nvm, let's say I agree with you
[06:36] <glitchd> kostkon, to bring you up to speed, im attempting to get a floppy drive to work in a desktop machine i built which has the sole purpose of assisting me in modding original xboxs
[06:37] <ObrienDave> is the floppy properly connected to the motherboard?
[06:37] <glitchd> kostkon, i need the floppy drive to save the hard drive password on because thats the only interface the distro will use for the password
[06:37] <glitchd> ObrienDave, as far as i can tell
[06:38] <glitchd> ObrienDave, ive got the ribbon cable connected to the only port that it will fit in. and ive got power to it. it lights up when i attempt to reach the disk, but then never goes off and i eventually get an error
[06:39] <ObrienDave> sounds like a bad drive
[06:39] <Ben64> sudo file -s /dev/fd0
[06:39] <glitchd> and it is possible to not use the floppy and just create cds that have the distro and the password all in one, but i was trying to go a different way with it
[06:40] <glitchd> Ben64, $ sudo file -s/devfd0
[06:40] <glitchd> file: invalid option -- '/'
[06:40] <glitchd> Usage: file [-bcEhikLlNnprsvzZ0] [--apple] [--extension] [--mime-encoding] [--mime-type]
[06:40] <glitchd>             [-e testname] [-F separator] [-f namefile] [-m magicfiles] file ...
[06:40] <glitchd>        file -C [-m magicfiles]
[06:40] <glitchd>        file [--help]
[06:40] <Ben64> welp
[06:41] <ObrienDave> glitchd, wrong command      sudo file -s /dev/fd0
[06:42] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i saw the error before you corrected it, but was silenced because i pasted those few lines a minute ago so i couldnt respond
[06:42] <ObrienDave> no biggie, MUCH safer to copy and paste to the terminal ;P
[06:42] <glitchd> ObrienDave, the corrected command gives the same error without the invalid part
[06:42] <glitchd> ObrienDave, yes, and yes.
[06:42] <Ben64> put it in a pastebin
[06:42] <ObrienDave> that too LOL
[06:43] <glitchd> Ben64, yea thats what i was planning to do
[06:45] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i noticed i still had the command wrong, fixed and it gave me this "sudo file -s /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0: writable, no read permission"
[06:45] <glitchd> ObrienDave, i forgot a space in it
[06:46] <ObrienDave> that explains both
[06:47] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't know how to change the permissions on a floppy
[06:48] <Ben64> sounds like there isn't a disk in
[06:48] <ObrienDave> is there jumpers on the back of the drive?
[06:50] <glitchd> ObrienDave, not that i know of, of course i cannot see the entire back of the drive since its in the case already
[06:50] <newbie_> hello everyone
[06:50] <newbie_> I am new to ubuntu
[06:50] <newbie_> just now I tried following this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430434/replace-openjdk-with-oracle-jdk-on-ubuntu
[06:51] <newbie_> for replacing my opend jdk to that or oracle jdk
[06:51] <newbie_> everything went well excep the part where I tried this command on the terminal java -version
[06:51] <newbie_> and it returned me this message back: bash: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[06:51] <newbie_> please help
[06:52] <Ben64> newbie_: you're on your own if you decide to install things from outside the ubuntu repositories
[06:53] <ObrienDave> in otherwords, until you know, keep it official ;P
[06:57] <EriC^^> newbie_: exec format error means 32bit vs 64bit
[06:57] <EriC^^> newbie_: get the file that's same as your arch, (type arch in the terminal to find out)
[07:17] <rebo> what would one normally use as mount options in /etc/fstab for a secondary drive?
[07:17] <maddawg2> depends what kind of drive really rebo
[07:17] <maddawg2> is it a nfs or something
[07:17] <rebo> ext4
[07:17] <rebo> I want it to behave like the primary one, just a second one
[07:18] <rebo> for extra space
[07:18] <rebo> right now, I have "auto,user" is that correct?
[07:20] <rebo> but I'm getting some issues with file permissions..
[07:20] <maddawg2> that doesnt sound right
[07:20] <maddawg2> what is on the drive
[07:20] <rebo> just normal data
[07:20] <maddawg2> so it has data on it already?
[07:20] <rebo> think of it as a second /home
[07:20] <rebo> yes
[07:20] <maddawg2> a secnd home?
[07:20] <maddawg2> you only get one home
[07:20] <rebo> only in concept :)
[07:21] <maddawg2> you're just using it as additional storage
[07:21] <rebo> yes
[07:21] <maddawg2> that's not a home directory lol
[07:21] <maddawg2> but whatever
[07:21] <maddawg2> so do you have the drive mounted currently?
[07:21] <rebo> yes
[07:22] <rebo> UUID=... /media/data ext4 auto,user 0 0
[07:22] <rebo> the UUID is the one for /dev/sdb1
[07:22] <maddawg2> umm why auto,user?
[07:22] <maddawg2> it should be ext4 defaults 0 0 at end
[07:23] <rebo> yes I have 0 0 at the end
[07:23] <maddawg2> no
[07:23] <maddawg2> you dont have defaults
[07:23] <rebo> ?
[07:23] <maddawg2> auto,user i have no clue why you are using that for a sata drive
[07:23] <maddawg2> i assume thats what it is
[07:23] <rebo> ah "defaults" ok
[07:23] <maddawg2> or usb
[07:24] <maddawg2> either way it's not a NAS
[07:24] <maddawg2> second you need to make sure you have ownership and permissions on hte mount point
[07:24] <ducasse> rebo: if you just want it to automount on boot, you can use 'defaults'
[07:24] <rebo> I created the mount point using "sudo mkdir"
[07:24] <maddawg2> sudo chown user -R /media/<mountpoint>
[07:25] <maddawg2> sudo chown <user> -R <path/to/mount>
[07:25] <maddawg2> rather
[07:25] <rebo> ok according to man page "defaults = default options: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async."
[07:25] <maddawg2> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1551705
[07:25] <maddawg2> see there
[07:26] <rebo> thanks
[07:26] <maddawg2> is it a USB or SATA drive
[07:26] <maddawg2> or nas
[07:26] <rebo> SATA
[07:26] <maddawg2> or nfs
[07:26] <maddawg2> ok then you dont need most of that
[07:26] <rebo> with dos MBR
[07:26] <maddawg2> just defaults
[07:26] <maddawg2> that doesnt mean much
[07:26] <maddawg2> how large is the drive?
[07:26] <maddawg2> (personally i use GPT for everything)
[07:27] <rebo> I meant formatted as dos partition table, with 2 partitions: ext4 as primary and swap on extended
[07:27] <ducasse> rebo: then you should also add an entry for the swap.
[07:27] <rebo> I already did
[07:28] <rebo> its working fine
[07:28] <rebo> i'll use "defaults" then as suggested
[07:29] <maddawg2> i know what you meant
[07:29] <maddawg2> gpt is another partition table
[07:29] <kingplusplus> please how do i point ubuntu to a domain name?
[07:29] <maddawg2> supports larger drives
[07:29] <maddawg2> kingplusplus, what do you mean "point to a domain name"
[07:30] <rebo> maddawg2: right. I think for my needs MBR is just fine
[07:30] <maddawg2> you want a domain name to point to the server
[07:30] <maddawg2> rebo well how large is the drive?
[07:30] <rebo> 256gb
[07:30] <maddawg2> yea then you're fine
[07:30] <maddawg2> that's tiny
[07:30] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i have a registered domain and would host a site but i need to configure something in ubuntu no?
[07:31] <maddawg2> depends what is responding
[07:31] <maddawg2> apache?
[07:31] <maddawg2> mail
[07:31] <maddawg2> it all depends
[07:31] <ducasse> kingplusplus: you need to configure the dns server that serves that domain
[07:31] <maddawg2> yes
[07:31] <maddawg2> and point it to your IP
[07:31] <maddawg2> then you need to configure your router to forward correct services
[07:31] <maddawg2> that's really about it
[07:32] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i have setup A records at the domain part
[07:32] <maddawg2> ok then that's it
[07:32] <maddawg2> at least as far as ubuntu is concerned
[07:32] <maddawg2> but it all depends what you'll be hosting too
[07:32] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: don’t i need to setup host name
[07:33] <maddawg2> you just did
[07:33] <maddawg2> and i assume your computer alrady has a name
[07:34] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i mean edit /etc/host because i only did A records setup from the domain
[07:34] <ducasse> kingplusplus: that has no impact on dns
[07:35] <maddawg2> you can do that if you have stuff listening on the server
[07:35] <maddawg2> thats why i said it depends  what you are doing with the server
[07:35] <maddawg2> you dont have to have a hostname set if you dont want
[07:35] <maddawg2> but it helps if you are  going to be running apache or such
[07:35] <maddawg2> as it needs to know what hostname to listen on
[07:36] <maddawg2> and you can just put the hostname in the hosts file
[07:36] <maddawg2> then confirm it by doing a "hostname -f"
[07:36] <maddawg2> tho you might have to reboot after setting the fqdn
[07:38] <ducasse> !hostname | kingplusplus
[07:41] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23504864/ online 7 what is the correct format? I will be using Nginx to host a website in my server
[07:42] <maddawg2> why do you have 192.168.0.1?
[07:42] <maddawg2> that doesnt make sense
[07:43] <maddawg2> isnt it on the localhost?
[07:43] <maddawg2> which is 127.0.0.1
[07:44] <maddawg2> or you could do 127.0.1.1 <FQDN here> <hostname>
[07:44] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: it is a public ip. I bought a vps
[07:44] <maddawg2> thats not a public ip
[07:44] <nchambers> 192.168.0.1 is not a public ip
[07:44] <nchambers> ninjad
[07:44] <maddawg2> 192.168.0.1 is a private ip
[07:44] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i removed the original ip
[07:44] <maddawg2> like 192.168.1.1
[07:45] <maddawg2> anything 192.168 is private
[07:45] <maddawg2> i.e. not routable on internet
[07:45] <maddawg2> the correct ip is that of the localhost
[07:45] <maddawg2> 127.0.0.1
[07:45] <nchambers> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses
[07:45] <maddawg2> or 127.0.1.1 (both do the same thing)
[07:45] <maddawg2> kingplusplus, See here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-04
[07:45] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: i only changed the IP for that was there because i don’t want people to see or ddos it
[07:46] <maddawg2> what?
[07:46] <maddawg2> what was there?
[07:46] <maddawg2> it should be the localhost
[07:46] <maddawg2> not anything else
[07:46] <maddawg2> just the localhost ip
[07:46] <maddawg2> loopback ip
[07:46] <nchambers> kingplusplus, removing an IP from the hosts file doesn't prevent a DDOS...
[07:46] <nchambers> that doesn't change or remove its ip
[07:46] <maddawg2> he didnt want us to s ee it
[07:46] <kir> хм
[07:46] <nchambers> ah
[07:46] <maddawg2> is what he said
[07:46] <nchambers> I misread
[07:46] <maddawg2> but it doesnt matter cuz it's wrong
[07:46] <maddawg2> lol
[07:47] <maddawg2> he needs to hse the loopback address
[07:47] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: it is a fresh server and it has 94.102.52.15 b04s04
[07:47] <maddawg2> thats not the loopback address
[07:47] <maddawg2> YOU NEED TO USE THE LOOPBACK ADDRESS
[07:47] <maddawg2> that ip 94.102.52.15 means nothing
[07:48] <maddawg2> use the loopback address as outlined in the forum i sent you
[07:48] <maddawg2> 127.0.x.x
[07:48] <maddawg2> that is always the loopback address of any computer
[07:48] <nchambers> that and ::1
[07:48] <PeaceAndFreedom> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[07:49] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: well i have changed it to 127.0.0.1 oga-on.xyz oga-on (on line 7)
[07:49] <kingplusplus> i suppose that is it for now
[07:50] <maddawg2> why would you do that
[07:51] <maddawg2> you already have an entry for 127.0.0.1 at the top
[07:51] <maddawg2> see where it says localhost
[07:51] <maddawg2> just add the FQDN
[07:51] <maddawg2> so it's 127.0.0.1 localhost <then domain here>
[07:51] <maddawg2> you shouldn't define it twice
[07:51] <maddawg2> just once
[07:51] <kingplusplus> maddawg2: ok thanks
[07:52] <maddawg2> tho i'd do it:
[07:52] <maddawg2> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[07:52] <maddawg2> 127.0.1.1 <hostname> <FQDN>
[07:52] <maddawg2> two different lines
[07:52] <maddawg2> whereas hostname is just the name if the computer
[07:53] <maddawg2> then you might need to reboot and run the command "hostname -f"
[07:53] <maddawg2> and then "hostname"
[07:53] <maddawg2> and see what the output is of each
[07:53] <crazyoldworld> how do i start bluez
[07:53] <crazyoldworld> bt daemon
[07:54] <PeaceAndFreedom> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[07:55] <crazyoldworld> modset
[07:55] <crazyoldworld> modeset inxconfig
[07:56] <ducasse> PeaceAndFreedom: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13455397/disable-ubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts
[08:16] <Ado> ciao
[08:16] <Ado> !list
[08:20] <newbie_> msg NickServ ubuntuNewBie
[08:20] <newbie_> hello everyone
[08:20] <newbie_> I need help on how to make my new java installation to be detected by other applications that needs it
[08:21] <newbie_> I got this error: bash: /usr/bin/java: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[08:22] <newbie_> Any help will be greatly appreciated
[08:23] <ShoaibJahejo> Ofcourse, if someone who knows about it will surely reply if he/she is reading these messages
[08:23] <ShoaibJahejo> since i have no idea about it
[08:24] <newbie_> been waiting for quite a while already for any replies
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !patience | newbie_
[08:25] <ShoaibJahejo> Go for it
[08:26] <for{}> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[08:26] <Random832> newbie_: you should also be aware that it's the middle of the night in america
[08:26] <cfhowlett> OTOH, ubuntu is global so ...
[08:27] <Random832> newbie_, how did you install java? is it possible you downloaded a 64-bit java for a 32-bit system?
[08:27] <for{}> yeah, global with 99% american users and devs
[08:27] <newbie_> cfhowlett: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430434/replace-openjdk-with-oracle-jdk-on-ubuntu
[08:27] <Random832> cfhowlett, yes but the channel still has activity cycles, and it's pretty early in the morning in europe too
[08:27] <ShoaibJahejo> really ? 99% americans ?
[08:27] <ShoaibJahejo> woah
[08:27] <Random832> on a sunday
[08:28] <newbie_> cfhowlett: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430434/replace-openjdk-with-oracle-jdk-on-ubuntu
[08:28] <newbie_> I tried following that tutorial and it the apps that need java no longer runs
[08:28] <Random832> global or not there are still dead hours
[08:28] <Random832> newbie_, what is the output of uname -a
[08:28] <newbie_> I tried following the tutorial to the letter
[08:28] <for{}> freenode becomes really active when in america is 12-13
[08:28] <for{}> until then, silence
[08:29] <for{}> how can i disable a shortcut key?
[08:29] <newbie_> Linux username-HP-ProBook-4230s 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:59 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:29] <newbie_> Random832: why you need that for
[08:29] <ShoaibJahejo> for{}:google it bro
[08:29] <Random832> newbie_, ok, so you are *not* on a 64-bit system
[08:29] <for{}> ShoaibJahejo, man, i have shortcut key 'x+y+z', how do i disable it?
[08:29] <newbie_> I am
[08:30] <Random832> no, you're not.
[08:30] <for{}> i want a generic manner
[08:30] <Random832> that is not the uname of a 64-bit system
[08:30] <ducasse> for{}: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13455397/disable-ubuntu-keyboard-shortcuts
[08:30] <ShoaibJahejo> for{}:i'm actually not getting what you are trying to say
[08:30] <newbie_> but I am running on one
[08:30] <Random832> you followed the instructions "to the letter", despite that the instructions said it was an example for x64 and that it depends on the type of processor
[08:30] <for{}> ducasse, 'Find the shortcut you're trying to disable'
[08:30] <newbie_> my laptop is core i5
[08:30] <ducasse> !google | ShoaibJahejo
[08:31] <Random832> newbie_, but you don't have 64-bit ubuntu installed
[08:31] <ShoaibJahejo> ops!
[08:31] <newbie_> what?
[08:31] <Random832> i don't know what you mean by 'what?'
[08:31] <ShoaibJahejo> *Runs*
[08:31] <newbie_> but I did use the one from ubunt
[08:31] <for{}> ducasse, how do i disable alt+` ?
[08:33] <newbie_> Random any idea how I can run my java
[08:33] <ducasse> for{}: if there isn't a list of shortcuts and their bindings i'm not sure, i don't use unity
[08:34] <for{}> ducasse, what do you use?
[08:34] <ducasse> for{}: i3
[08:35] <for{}> i3 and ubuntu?
[08:35] <baizon> newbie_:
[08:35] <newbie_> yes
[08:35] <baizon> newbie_: why do you want to install oracle jdk? why not openjdk?
[08:35] <newbie_> because android studio has problems with it
[08:36] <ducasse> for{}: yes, why?
[08:36] <for{}> i thought newbie_ wants to be cool, thats why he wants oracle jdk
[08:36] <for{}> ducasse, i was wondering if its possible to have i3 installed on ubuntu, thats all
[08:37] <ducasse> for{}: there's a package called i3-wm that contains just the wm, and a metapackage called i3 that includes useful tools.
[08:37] <newbie_> Documents/AndroidStudio/bin$ ./studio.sh
[08:38] <newbie_> I tried that command
[08:38] <for{}> ducasse, what should i install?
[08:38] <for{}> im a noob
[08:38] <newbie_> and it gave me this reply:  /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_112/bin/java: 1: /usr/local/java/jdk1.8.0_112/bin/java: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting ")")
[08:39] <for{}> ducasse, the metapackage i guess?
[08:39] <kingplusplus> i have setup my hostname and fqdm http://paste.ubuntu.com/23505024/ my question is what is difference with server.example.com used in host files and www.example.com used in browsers? why don’t people set that in host files. please see line 8 and 10
[08:39] <ducasse> for{}: if you want to test it, the i3 package, or you will need to manually set up some stuff.
[08:39] <for{}> ducasse, if i want it for good, still i3?
[08:39] <erwinnovo> baizon
[08:40] <ducasse> for{}: yes, unless you install alternatives to things like i3status.
[08:40] <newbie_> baizon
[08:40] <newbie_> did you see my message
[08:41] <for{}> ducasse, what package did you install for yourself?
[08:41] <backbox> hi
[08:41] <backbox> hello
[08:41] <baizon> newbie_: im reading that is pretty save to use openjdk, but 8, also there is a android studio ppa
[08:41] <for{}> well, hi, mate
[08:42] <ducasse> for{}: the i3 package, i think, although i probably don't need most of the other stuff as i have a config.
[08:42] <backbox> i want some help
[08:42] <for{}> i want money
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !ask | backbox
[08:42] <newbie_> baizon: what do you mean
[08:42] <for{}> ducasse, ok, thanks
[08:42] <backbox> is there anyone to help me
[08:42] <newbie_> I do not get you sorry
[08:42] <for{}> backbox, its the void here
[08:42] <cfhowlett> backbox, dude.  that is what this channel is for.  now ASK your ubuntu question.
[08:43] <baizon> newbie_: https://paolorotolo.github.io/android-studio/
[08:44] <Random832> newbie_, you need to install the 32-bit x86 version because you have a 32-bit version of ubuntu
[08:44] <dikiaap> !patience
[08:47] <for{}> ducasse, how can i make right mouse button my primary button in i3m?
[08:47] <for{}> s/i3m/i3
[08:49] <for{}> does anyone know how can i make right mouse button my primary button in i3m?
[08:49] <ducasse> for{}: i think you can remap mouse buttons with xmodmap, not sure.
[08:50] <baizon> for{}: google -> my first hit ... https://faq.i3wm.org/question/927/how-can-i-change-the-left-and-right-mouse-buttons.1.html
[08:51] <for{}>  i know in unity, xmodmap doesnt work
[08:52] <for{}> because setxkbmap resets all xmodmap changes
[08:52] <for{}> but xmodmap works in i3, right?
[08:52] <ducasse> for{}: it's a hack, but if you don't call setxkbmap afterwards it works.
[08:53] <for{}> i used xmodmap commands in unity and after a while they were reset automatically
[08:53] <newbie_> rm: cannot remove '/usr/local/java': Is a directory
[08:53] <newbie_> I got that problem
[08:53] <for{}> so i had to implement a timer that runs xmodmap commands every 5 secs
[08:53] <newbie_> when I type this on the terminal: rm /usr/local/java
[08:54] <newbie_> baizon I help with removing java directory from /usr/local
[08:54] <for{}> ducasse, setxkbmap commands work under i3 too, right?
[08:56] <DataAdmin> Anyone got ideas on nice allways-on apps you can run when you have a your own server?
[08:56] <DataAdmin> Like ZNC that i just got
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !server | DataAdmin
[08:57] <baizon> newbie_: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/java
[08:58] <newbie_> baizon: thanks :)
[08:58] <ducasse> for{}: it works for all x stuff. there's probably a cleaner way now, maybe xinput.
[08:58] <DataAdmin> cfhowlett, thanks.. i know many "typical" server apps. I cannot find use for that many of them. But ZNC is just a life enchancer
[08:59] <kingplusplus> i have setup my hostname and fqdm http://paste.ubuntu.com/23505024/ my question is what is difference with server.example.com used in host files and www.example.com used in browsers? why don’t people set that in host files. please see line 8 and 10
[09:00] <newbie_> one more thing
[09:00] <newbie_> I have an icon that looks like I question mark
[09:01] <newbie_> why is it like that
[09:01] <newbie_> the icon on the left
[09:01] <ducasse> kingplusplus: other people don't set that in their hostfiles, they use dns to reach your site
[09:02] <kingplusplus> ducasse: i mean from example i have seen nobody specifies www. but i see blog
[09:03] <kingplusplus> i see blog.domain.com
[09:03] <kingplusplus> mail.domain.com
[09:03] <ducasse> kingplusplus: the normal thing is to redirect www.domain.com to domain.com
[09:04] <kingplusplus> ducasse:  since i do not have domain.com in my host files rather  i have server.domain.com is this not going to be a problem?
[09:05] <kingplusplus> ducasse: sorry i sound stupid but i never get it clear from all the reading
[09:06] <ducasse> kingplusplus: it shouldn't be, but you can put both there if you want
[09:16] <newbie_> cfhowlett: how just installed
[09:16] <newbie_> apache
[09:16] <newbie_> and I was trying to run info.php
[09:16] <newbie_> it would not want me to due to permission errors
[09:16] <cfhowlett> completely outside my scope of knowledge.  sorry.
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> newbie_: best way to solve your issue, is re-ask once in a while here in channel
[09:17] <newbie_> lotuspsychje: I just solve of the issues
[09:18] <newbie_> what i need is the command to allow my user account to run a file once I copied and pasted a folder inside /var/www/html
[09:20] <newbie_> lotuspsychje:  sudo chmod -rwx info.php
[09:20] <newbie_> but it does not make the info.php file into a green colored filename
[09:21] <ducasse> newbie_: that removes all permissions
[09:21] <newbie_> ducasse: then what is the correct command then
[09:21] <ducasse> newbie_: depends on what permissions you want
[09:22] <newbie_> ducasse: so this should have been the command: sudo chmod +rwx info.php
[09:27] <black_> need hint about web400
[09:28] <lenswipee_> hi my ubuntu has 1 admin and 1 standard user and 1 guest account. i played around with the grub file because i forgot a password. Problem now is Ubuntu auto logs into standard account without needing a password (but it does actually has one set). I have to log out in order to select and log into other accounts. help
[09:30] <bekks> lenswipee_: boot a live cd, chroot into your system, reset the admin password.
[09:31] <lenswipee_> bekks, i remember all the passwords for the accounts now but because i edited grub it now auto logs into standard account without a password on boot.
[09:31] <bekks> Grub changes do not lead to autologin.
[09:31] <bekks> You configured something else, too.
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> lenswipee_: disable autologin in your users settings?
[09:32] <lenswipee_> lotuspsychje, ill try that
[09:33] <ducasse> lenswipee_: or check if the user is a member of the group nopasswdlogin
[09:34] <lenswipee_> i unticked autologin in the standard account. strange how it prompted for admin password for that.
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:35] <lenswipee_> lotuspsychje, something wrong?
[09:35] <lenswipee_> ducasse, how i do that?
[09:35] <hron84> Hi! I have a problem with the Ubuntu's sound system. I had a correct working setup here but I had to reinstall my machine completely and I moved from Trusty to Xenial. Everything is fine, but my microphone is stopped working, and I have no idea how can I fix it. I already poked around all buttons in Pavucontrol, and this tool is really awesome because it shows me "microphone - plugged in" and if i raise the boosting level, it displays some noise 
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !sound | hron84
[09:36] <tsn> Will installing microcode doing anything
[09:36] <hron84> lotuspsychje: read that stuff, did all the thing, nothing worked.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> hron84: did you try a pulseaudio restart?
[09:36] <lenswipee_> ducasse, how i do that?
[09:36] <hron84> I did a completet machine restart, I hope it restart pulseaudio too.
[09:37] <ikonia> why would restarting the machine not restart pulse ?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hron84: check your logs on sound issues also perhaps
[09:37] <ikonia> how do you expect a reboot to "not" restart a service ?
[09:37] <hron84> ikonia: it was an irony
[09:37] <ikonia> no it wasn't
[09:37] <hron84> lotuspsychje: errm... which logs
[09:37] <hron84> ikonia: from me, it was an irony. Trust me, I know my intentions :P
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hron84: syslog for example could hold sound(card) errors
[09:38] <ikonia> there is nothing ironic about it
[09:39] <hron84> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23505193/
[09:39] <hron84> that's all I can found about snd|sound|alsa
[09:40] <hron84> ikonia: okay, then there wasn't. I am really sorry my gigantic dumbness. Are you satisfied?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> hron84: your system up to date to latest .1 ?
[09:41] <hron84> lotuspsychje: it's a fresh install and yes I did aptitude full-uprgade
[09:41] <tsn> Is there a way to tell if trim is enabled on a ssd install using EXT4?
[09:41] <hron84> I used the correct command just typing wrong here.
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> !trim | tsn
[09:41] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: just need some help
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hron84: can you check lsb_release -a for making sure
[09:42] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: what command shall I use to determine my username on the laptop I am using
[09:42] <hron84> lotuspsychje: Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[09:42] <hron84> Is it okay?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hron84: yes, great tnx
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> hron84: perhaps something went wrong on transition from trusty to xenial, could you test a xenial liveusb and check mic there?
[09:43] <ducasse> easyOnMe: 'id' or 'echo $USER'
[09:43] <nihilul> ducasse: how can i make my xsession file read?
[09:43] <nihilul> i wanna use i3
[09:44] <ducasse> nihilul: which xsession file? just select i3 on the login screen.
[09:44] <nihilul> yes, but the commands in xsession arent execute
[09:44] <nihilul> executed
[09:45] <nihilul> i wanna have commands executed once i enter i3
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> hron84: i presume your mic worked fine in trusty?
[09:45] <ducasse> nihilul: what did you name the file?
[09:45] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: ok then the next question is how come I am not able to paste any folder into the /var/www/html directory when I just adde my user name into the root group
[09:45] <nihilul> .xsession
[09:45] <nihilul> ~/.xsession
[09:46] <ducasse> nihilul: use ~/.xsessionrc
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: why you asking me this?
[09:46] <lenswipee_> it seems i found a way to login into a standard account without a password through a grub edit
[09:46] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: ls -ld /var/www/html/
[09:46] <easyOnMe> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 20 15:21 /var/www/html/
[09:46] <nihilul> ducasse: i3 man page says smth else
[09:46] <easyOnMe> because I just added my username to the root group but still I have no write permission to the /var/www/html directory
[09:47] <nihilul> if i rename it ~/.xsessionrc, will work?
[09:47] <hron84> lotuspsychje: of course
[09:47] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I used it for teamspeak, skype, and facebook messenger too, so i'm pretty sure it worked before. Also, it works under Windows.
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> hron84: perhaps some scrambled config file of sound, got messed up
[09:48] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I tried with a completely new account/profile (moved only non-linux related stuff, missed the whole .config, .local, .cache, .pulse* dirs/files) and did not helped
[09:48] <lenswipee_> when i get notified of a ubuntu software update it says version 16 not 16 LTS. why?
[09:48] <bekks> lenswipee_: whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> lenswipee_, you have to tell software settings to use "LTS only" updates
[09:49] <Welastevil> hi folks!
[09:49] <Welastevil>  good morning...
[09:49] <hron84> lenswipee_: yakkety is not an LTS.
[09:49] <Welastevil> My system is too slow.... I dont know why... I mean...it is slow mainly fro movie and images projection.
[09:49] <lenswipee_> cfhowlett, where is software settings found?
[09:50] <Welastevil> I already testart...but it doesnt soldv the rpoblem
[09:50] <bekks> lenswipee_: Just type the command above first to see which version you are on.
[09:50] <cfhowlett> lenswipee_, in the "software" app, strangely enought
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> hron84: can you tail -f /var/logsyslog and plugin your mic plz?
[09:50] <hron84> lotuspsychje: and also as I said, pavucontrol can see my microphone (if i plug in the headset, the text changes from plugged to unplugged) just it records only noise not my voice.
[09:50] <bekks> Welastevil: rebooting doesnt solve problems. What is "slow" in detail?
[09:50] <ducasse> nihilul: trust me, ~/.xesssionrc works on ubuntu
[09:50] <hron84> lotuspsychje: nothing happened
[09:51] <Welastevil> humm...like when I open a movie, at diaplys shivering images for example
[09:51] <Welastevil> mouse clicking response is some seconds slow as well
[09:51] <for{}> ducasse, you are right, it works!
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> hron84: allrighty, i would go for the liveusb xenial test, or deeper investigate with alsa perhaps in #alsa?
[09:51] <for{}> thanks, ducasse
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Welastevil, how much video ram?  what resolution on the video?
[09:51] <lenswipee_> cfhowlett, huh? how to navigate from the windows key?
[09:51] <bekks> Welastevil: which CPU do you have, how much RAM?
[09:51] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I've no working usb pendrive sadly. I plan to buy one but currently I haven't.
[09:51] <iamkiran> I am getting error while running mysql. ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES). How can I solve this error? Please I need help.
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: right graphics drivers installed?
[09:52] <for{}> ducasse, i pressed ctrl+z inside my browser and i3 froze. do you know why?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> hron84: perhaps fiddling with few kernels also?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> lenswipee_, go to dash, type "software"
[09:52] <Welastevil> 16 ram
[09:52] <bekks> Welastevil: 16GB RAM.
[09:52] <Welastevil> ahhh...I think I know why!
[09:52] <ducasse> for{}: nope.
[09:52] <bekks> Welastevil: Do you mind to share?
[09:52] <Welastevil>  it started after a problem in updating OS from ubuntu sftware!
[09:53] <Welastevil> I can not do it fro few days...
[09:53] <lenswipee_> cfhowlett, right i get moun discover doing that
[09:53] <Welastevil> yeah 16 gig ram
[09:53] <bekks> Welastevil: And which problem do you talk about?
[09:53] <bekks> Welastevil: "a problem" doesnt mean much.
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> hmm i also noticed gnome-software bug few days
[09:53] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I tried an Arch Live CD before just for make my laptop work temporarly, and it had same issue but I did not payed attention because I thought it's an issue with this Live thing and I also could live without mic too. But now, I'd like to make it work again.
[09:54] <rbshadow> hi1
[09:54] <Welastevil> Intel® Core™ i7 CPU Q 740 @ 1.73GHz × 8
[09:54] <bekks> Welastevil: And which update problem do you talk about?
[09:54] <rbshadow> WoW
[09:54] <rbshadow> so hot configuration
[09:54] <hron84> lotuspsychje: and also I borrowed that usb cd drive I had to give it back.
[09:54] <Welastevil> the probem is that everytime trying to update, it can not be done
[09:54] <bekks> Welastevil: Why not?
[09:54] <Welastevil> it got an error, or so slow that it seem not finished
[09:55] <ducasse> Welastevil: didn't we fix that yesterday?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> hron84: oh too bad mate, cant you find yourself a cheap 2gig usb stick somewhere, big lifesafer when you have ubuntu portable :p
[09:55] <bekks> Welastevil: which error...? How often do I have to ask?
[09:55] <hron84> lotuspsychje: all shops are closed atm. Maybe tomorrow.
[09:55] <hron84> you know, it's sunday.
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> hron84: online shops are open :p
[09:55] <Welastevil> I dont know which error because Im trying from "appsture" ubuntu software... let me try from the terminal....
[09:56] <Welastevil> which command if I wanna update using terminal?
[09:56] <hron84> which delivers sticks... tomorrow? :D
[09:56] <iamkiran> I am using Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS and I am getting error while running mysql.ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[09:56] <bekks> Welastevil: So pastebin "sudo apt update" in a pastebin service please.
[09:56] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I'm from Hungary btw.
[09:56] <bekks> iamkiran: so the password is wrong.
[09:56] <ducasse> Welastevil: again - didn't we fix that yesterday?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> hron84: great, hope you get your issue fixxed
[09:56] <iamkiran> bekks: How to change password in ubuntu?
[09:57] <lenswipee_> what app are people here using to manage software on Ubuntu? the default muon discover doesn't allow me to select LTS only downloads
[09:57] <hron84> lotuspsychje: i hope too. I'll come back tomorrow and tell the results of a test with ubuntu live.
[09:57] <bekks> iamkiran: First, tyope the correct password for your mysql database account.
[09:57] <iamkiran> bekks: How to change password of mysql server in ubuntu?
[09:57] <bekks> iamkiran: log in as root user first.
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> hron84: sudo lshw -C sound showing driver okay?
[09:58] <for{}> ducasse, what font do you use?
[09:58] <ducasse> for{}: for what?
[09:58] <for{}> in i3
[09:58] <iamkiran> bekks: I think I am entering correct password?
[09:58] <bekks> iamkiran: Obviously you arent.
[09:59] <ducasse> for{}: for window titles etc? dejavu sans, i think.
[09:59] <hron84> iamkiran: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('new_password');"
[09:59] <iamkiran> bekks: How to change root password then?
[09:59] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/tFPvFsxp
[09:59] <Welastevil> here!
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Welastevil
[10:00] <hron84> lotuspsychje: I'm not use lshw too much, so... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23505266/
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> hron84: lookin good, driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
[10:00] <ducasse> Welastevil: we dealt with this yesterday
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> Welastevil: we dont support ppa's here mate
[10:01] <hron84> lotuspsychje: i also plan to play around with model= option but i cannot find an example for ALC233
[10:01] <Welastevil> yeah.. but the problems return ducasse
[10:01] <iamkiran> hron84: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql.debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:01] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql.debian.cnf
[10:01] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:01] <Welastevil> mmmm ok...at lest can you adivice about something to do to improve this situation?
[10:01] <hron84> ohh i made a mistake
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> hron84: lspci -nn
[10:02] <hron84> /etc/mysql/debian.cnf  <= this is the correct path
[10:02] <hron84> iamkiran: ^^
[10:02] <ducasse> Welastevil: that didn't take many hours. i explicitly told you yesterday to get rid  of all those ppas and proposed, and you said you did. you've done neither.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> hron84: should also show audio device + model
[10:02] <hron84> lotuspsychje: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller [8086:0f04] (rev 0e)
[10:03] <Cedara> Morning
[10:03] <iamkiran> hron84: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:03] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/debian.cnf
[10:03] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> hron84: you might wanna lookup that model + xenial bugs/issue
[10:03] <ducasse> Welastevil: clean out your ppas. *all* of them, *and* proposed. do not use proposed unless you have a good reason.
[10:04] <hron84> iamkiran: take close what I wrote. You missed the path again. Copy and paste it.
[10:04] <iamkiran> hron83:  mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:04] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[10:04] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:05] <lenswipee_> moun update manager is crap. why was it even chosen as default in distro!
[10:05] <hron84> iamkiran: are you on ubuntu?
[10:05] <iamkiran> hron84:  mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf -NBe "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('12345678');"
[10:05] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[10:05] <iamkiran> mysql: [ERROR] Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted!
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !paste | iamkiran
[10:05] <iamkiran> hron84: ya I am in ubuntu 16.04.
[10:05] <Welastevil> how to clean all of them?
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Welastevil
[10:06] <for{}> ducasse, can
[10:06] <iamkiran> ubottu: Ok
[10:06] <for{}> ducasse, can exec from i3 config files be used to execute different programs?
[10:06] <ducasse> for{}: of course.
[10:06] <hron84> iamkiran: hmm.. what happened with your machine? That file should be there, it's an integrant part of Ubuntu MySQL installs.
[10:07] <iamkiran> hron84: i don't know. I think it's there.
[10:07] <hron84> iamkiran: if that file is there then mysql should not write it's missing.
[10:08] <hron84> there is an alternative way to reset root password but it's kinda suck.
[10:08] <Welastevil> I have installed
[10:08] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04 : After booting the system I regularily get a notice that the download of ttf-mscorefonts-installer failed.
[10:09] <Welastevil>  ppa purge
[10:09] <Cedara> Any idea how to figure out to solve this?
[10:09] <iamkiran> hron84: What if update debian.cnf direct in vim?
[10:09] <Welastevil> now, just typ out command and enter?
[10:09] <iamkiran> hron84: will that work?
[10:09] <bekks> Welastevil: No read the link given on how to use it.
[10:09] <hron84> iamkiran: you can't because that should contain a password you also do not know.
[10:09] <hron84> iamkiran: https://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[10:09] <Cedara> I think it must have to do with an EULA, from my searches.
[10:10] <hron84> iamkiran: this could help to reset root password but I kindly ask you to be really, REALLY careful.
[10:10] <Welastevil> ok
[10:10] <iamkiran> hron84: ok
[10:11] <hron84> iamkiran: also when you can access mysql root again, reset 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' password to some random-generated one, and fill a debian.cnf with that. take an example from an another ubuntu mysql server that works correctly.
[10:12] <hron84> iamkiran: ubuntu does some healt checks when mysql starts and debian-sys-maint the user that ubuntu uses for this operation. It's essential to work.
[10:12] <iamkiran> hron84: Ok, I will try that if I get acces to mysql root.
[10:12] <Guest56607> hi
[10:13] <Guest56607> I am neophyte, I wanted to ask how to do so (using chmod) to make a file eliminated only by root
[10:13] <bekks> Guest56607: chmod 0644 filename
[10:13] <Guest56607> thanks :)
[10:14] <Nikola> Test
[10:15] <explosive> Guest56607: the file is owned by root right?
[10:21] <jatt> chmod -w file
[10:23] <iamkiran> hron84: I edit debian.cnf file directly and that work.
[10:24] <sifosifo777> Hello. Can ubuntu use google playstore?
[10:24] <bekks> sifosifo777: No.
[10:24] <geirha> Guest56607: If by "eliminate" you mean remove, then the file's mode is irrelevant, it's the containing directory's permissions that decide that part
[10:25] <for{}> i wanna map Ctrl+f1 to right click in i3, how do i do it?
[10:26] <for{}> i tried `bindsym --release Control+F1 xdotool click 3` but it doesnt work
[10:28] <for{}> i get 'the configured command for this shortcut could not be run successfully.'
[10:28] <for{}> i click 'show errors'
[10:28] <for{}> and i see... nothing
[10:28] <ducasse> for{}: xdotool is not an i3 command.
[10:28] <for{}> `exec xdotool...` then?
[10:29] <ducasse> for{}: yep.
[10:29] <for{}> is there a i3 builtin that simulates right click?
[10:30] <ducasse> for{}: not that i know, it doesn't really use mouse much - it's keyboard-centric
[10:33] <Cedara> Does anyone know if ttf-mscorefonts-installer vs. 3.4 is broken and ends up in a bug in 16.04?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Cedara, worked fine for me
[10:33] <Cedara> cfhowlett - after reboot, I get a notice that the download of the packages failed
[10:34] <ducasse> cfhowlett: quite a few people have had trouble with it here recently
[10:34] <jackhumm> I Just bought a new laptop which comes with win 10 installed in uefi mode. I installed 16.04 on it. But now i can only get Ubuntu on grub menu. Tips to fix it?
[10:34] <Cedara> cfhowlett: in the forums it was said it was broken: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343669
[10:34] <explosive> jackhumm: paste "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:34] <Cedara> it seems it could fit my problem too, but not completely sure
[10:36] <jackhumm> explosive: give me a min
[10:39] <explosive> jackhumm:
[10:39] <explosive> k
[10:39] <kiruhan2> heey/ can someone help me with discord canary ?
[10:39] <Sam54> Hi, I'm trying to mount an ssd using ubuntu in order to solve some problem with the system on the ssd. Unfortunaly it doesn't appear in /dev or in /dev/disk/by-uuid, nothing in syslog. I tried with multiple sata ports and power supply. I'm running on live-usb. Is this problem known, if yes could you help me solving it ? (I aplogize for my french-based english)
[10:40] <ruicruz> hello there. I've a very low cpu, and 1gb of ram. I have a second PC with the same amount of ram but a better cpu. is there any specific cpu tweaks that I can make on the OS to make it faster (or less slow)?
[10:41] <jackhumm> explosive: http://termbin.com/osl7
[10:41] <explosive> jackhumm: does sudo os-prober give you anything?
[10:41] <jackhumm> till now , what i understand is that my windows 10 is something related to uefi boot , and i have installed ubuntu on legacy mode
[10:41] <explosive> jackhumm: no ubuntu looks like it's in uefi mode, try "ls /sys/firmware/efi" to be sure
[10:42] <jackhumm> explosive: os prober result   /dev/sda9:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows:chain
[10:42] <akik> Sam54: when you connect the ssd, run dmesg to see the device names that you can use
[10:43] <akik> Sam54: also lsblk shows them
[10:43] <jackhumm> explosive: ls /sys/firmware/efi resulted in no such file
[10:43] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, you are indeed in legacy mode then
[10:43] <jackhumm> explosive: when i boot my laptop on legacy mode , i can see grub boot loader , but when i boot in uefi mode then windows 10 boots up automatically
[10:43] <explosive> jackhumm: that's pretty odd, you usually need a bios-boot partition with gpt partitions to boot in legacy mode
[10:44] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode
[10:44] <explosive> jackhumm: don't choose "reinstall ubuntu" in the installer though
[10:44] <explosive> it'll erase the whole hdd and install ubuntu
[10:44] <explosive> go for "Something else" and manually choose the partition
[10:45] <jackhumm> explosive: i dont want to erase all hdd
[10:45] <explosive> yes, reread what i said :)
[10:45] <jackhumm> explosive: anyway i can make it work without installing any of the os
[10:45] <explosive> you can if you want
[10:46] <explosive> i'd help if you want to go that route
[10:46] <jackhumm> explosive: yes,  man , i dont want erase hdd , or reinstall any of os
[10:46] <jackhumm> explosive: anyway i can convert my windows 10 to legacy mode
[10:46] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, you are like me then :D
[10:46] <explosive> nah use uefi
[10:47] <jackhumm> explosive: so that i can get burg beautiful bootloader , i like it
[10:47] <jackhumm> explosive: i want that sexy graphical bootloader , i think it works only on legacy mode
[10:47] <explosive> it's the same bootloader on those
[10:47] <explosive> that's just for the installer i think, after the install they are both purple grub menus
[10:48] <explosive> unless you mean something you add to grub?
[10:48] <jackhumm> explosive: up until now in my old dell laptop i was using windows 8.1 with ubuntu on that burg graphical boot loader
[10:48] <explosive> no idea about it
[10:48] <explosive> i have a legacy ubuntu 14.04 on another pc and it's also purple grub menu
[10:49] <jackhumm> explosive: can i somehow add both of my os on grub bootloader , because it tried sudo update-grub , but windows os partition never get added
[10:49] <explosive> right now you can't, both os have to be installed in the same mode
[10:49] <jackhumm> explosive: okay , tell me how to have both of my os on same boot menu\
[10:49] <explosive> so convert ubuntu then uefi then?
[10:50] <explosive> are you good with that?
[10:50] <jackhumm> explosive: will that help to run both
[10:50] <explosive> yeah
[10:50] <jackhumm> explosive: then yes , i just want to run both 10 and ubuntu
[10:51] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, do you have a live usb? you might need it
[10:52] <Sam54> akik: dmesg prints nothing new and lsblk too. There are only disks I had before (loop and sda)
[10:52] <akik> Sam54: does the ssd get power ?
[10:52] <jackhumm> explosive: can't i do this while being in my ubuntu
[10:52] <jackhumm> explosive: can't i do this while being in my ubuntu/
[10:52] <Sam54> akik: yes, I tried with multiple power ports and it usually works fine with all ports
[10:52] <explosive> jackhumm: yeah, but there's a step that requires the efivars to be loaded, and it might not load cause you're booted in legacy mode and it's needed to add ubuntu to the efi list
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: we can work around it, nevermind
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: type sudo blkid /dev/sda1
[10:53] <akik> Sam54: how about "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: get the uuid, and type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:53] <akik> Sam54: that'll list all storage devices that linux sees
[10:53] <explosive> jackhumm: add a line that says
[10:54] <explosive> UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[10:54] <explosive> replace your uuid with the one above
[10:54] <Sam54> akik: http://pastebin.com/raw/z5HXa0eN (sda is the usb key I boot from)
[10:54] <jackhumm> explosive: wait wait chap
[10:54] <jackhumm> explosive: wait wait chap/
[10:55] <jackhumm> explosive: are you talking about UUID?
[10:55] <akik> Sam54: check connections :) there's something missing
[10:55] <explosive> jackhumm: yes
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: are you talking about UUID?
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: are you talking about UUID?/
[10:56] <explosive> yes
[10:56] <explosive> jackhumm: !yes
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: shit keyboard
[10:56] <jackhumm> explosive: new laptop keyboard layout sucks
[10:57] <explosive> np
[10:57] <jackhumm> explosive : what line i have to put on fstab?
[10:57] <explosive> UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[10:57] <explosive> with your uuid instead of the one above
[10:58] <Sam54> akik: everything appears fine. Sata and power plugged, on the motherboard and the ssd. I'm going to try with another disk (hdd).
[10:59] <akik> Sam54: btw, your english is fine
[11:00] <jackhumm> explosive: okay , added that line in fstab
[11:00] <explosive> jackhumm: great
[11:00] <explosive> jackhumm: type "sudo mount -a"
[11:00] <explosive> then type "lsblk" and see if it says sda1 is mounted at /boot/efi
[11:01] <jackhumm> sudo mount -a , mount point /boot/efi doesnt exist
[11:01] <explosive> jackhumm: ah, type sudo mkdir /boot/efi
[11:01] <jackhumm> explosive: sudo mkdir /boot/efi done
[11:02] <jackhumm> explosive: after that sudo mount -a also done
[11:02] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, lsblk all good? sda1 at /boot/efi?
[11:02] <jackhumm> explosive: lsblk , /dev/sda1 mounted at /boot/efi
[11:02] <explosive> ok, cool
[11:03] <Sam54> akik: thank you, strnagly the hdd receive no power ...
[11:03] <explosive> type sudo modprobe efivars
[11:03] <py_> hello there, I'm having an issue booting in my ubuntu box, anyone willing to help me?
[11:03] <explosive> !details | py_
[11:03] <jackhumm> explosive: holly fck dude , its like you have created the bootloader yourself ,
[11:03] <jackhumm> explosive: you are pro
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !ask | details
[11:04] <jackhumm> explosive: sudo modprobe efivars done
[11:04] <explosive> lol
[11:04] <py_> so basically today I woke up and saw on my screen the pop up saying "your machine is running on low graphics mode, you will have to configure the drivers yourself"
[11:04] <glitchd> why would my usb stick by owned by root?
[11:05] <jackhumm> explosive: now what dude
[11:05] <py_> I got a pop up before that that I there some updates available so I started updating but in the middle of it, I pressed quit because there was no progress so I asusme that might be the reason?
[11:05] <py_> explosive: any ideas?
[11:06] <py_> I can't even enter the recovery mode
[11:06] <explosive> jackhumm: ok type sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-{signed,bin} grub2-common grub-common grub-efi-amd64
[11:07] <explosive> py_: yeah that migt be it, do you have a live usb?
[11:07] <glitchd> how can i change ownership of my usb drive?
[11:07] <py_> explosive: probs yeah
[11:07] <jackhumm> explosive: i read somewhere to not run commands given by strangers blindly on linux,  but look at me , well well
[11:07] <explosive> glitchd: sudo chown owner:group /path/to/dir
[11:07] <explosive> glitchd: what filesystem is it? you can mount it from the filemanager usually
[11:08] <glitchd> explosive, owner:group?
[11:08] <srini> hi, i want to merge all mp4 files into a single file. any application is there in linux ?
[11:08] <jackhumm> explosive: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub--blah blah done
[11:08] <explosive> jackhumm: lol, this is a support channel, it's different :D
[11:08] <py_> explosive: so what would I need to do with the live usb?
[11:08] <glitchd> explosive, i can mount it but i cant copy files to it
[11:09] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, great
[11:09] <explosive> jackhumm: let's see if it worked, try "ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[11:09] <cfhowlett> glitchd, yeah, I noticed that with 16.04!  previously, USB's were easily writeable.  no more.
[11:09] <explosive> jackhumm: it should show a grubx64.efi at least
[11:10] <explosive> py_: chroot and maybe continue the update and troubleshoot stuff
[11:10] <explosive> check the logs etc
[11:10] <jackhumm> explosive: ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu , no such file
[11:10] <glitchd> cfhowlett, yea but it only does it with this one usb..?
[11:10] <explosive> jackhumm: hmm, try "sudo grub-install"
[11:11] <py_> explosive: but I don't have a GUI
[11:11] <explosive> jackhumm: no such file or perm denied?
[11:11] <jackhumm> explosive: installing . . device not specified
[11:11] <cfhowlett> glitchd, as of 16.04 NONE of my usb's have been usable for other than installing ubuntu.
[11:11] <jackhumm> explosive: i tried sudo ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu  , no such file
[11:11] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, grub legacy is still there
[11:11] <explosive> jackhumm: type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:12] <explosive> py_: yes, from the cli
[11:12] <jackhumm> explosive: http://termbin.com/bivz
[11:13] <explosive> py_: after you chroot sudo dpkg --configure -a should help
[11:13] <explosive> and sudo apt-get -f install
[11:13] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, type sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin
[11:14] <ducasse> jackhumm: try sudo ls -l /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[11:14] <explosive> ducasse: same thing, fat32 is case insensitive
[11:14] <glitchd> jackhumm, sudo grub-isntall /dev/sd?
[11:14] <glitchd> *install
[11:14] <glitchd> replace the ? with whatever yours is (sda sdb ...)
[11:14] <glitchd> cfhowlett, so any idea how i can get back usability of my usb for non root users?
[11:14] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i have a bunch of usbs and this is the only one that does this
[11:15] <glitchd> cfhowlett, this is the first time too
[11:15] <explosive> it's the grub legacy packages still there causing the problem
[11:15] <jackhumm> explosive: i purged
[11:15] <jackhumm> explosive: i tried installing burg few hours ago , but i see old grub on bootloader
[11:15] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, run the previous long command apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-...bla bla bla bla
[11:16] <explosive> jackhumm: "ctrl+r" then type "grub-efi" should show it
[11:16] <explosive> then press enter to run it
[11:16] <explosive> if at first it doesn't appear, pressing ctrl+r again will go backwards through the hits
[11:17] <glitchd> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> glitchd, use a different USB?
[11:17] <jackhumm> explosive: i used up arrow key :) , will that work?
[11:18] <glitchd> cfhowlett, uhh...id like to fix it, not just ignore it
[11:18] <explosive> jackhumm: sure :)
[11:18] <py_> explosive: for some reason when I "lsb_release -a", I get as a result that my distro is Kali Linux. I had added some repos from their distro but why am I getting that?
[11:18] <jackhumm> explosive: reinstall comand done
[11:18] <glitchd> cfhowlett, its all good if you dont/cant help, ill just ask some more,theres bound to be someone that can...eventually
[11:19] <explosive> jackhumm: great, try "sudo ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[11:19] <explosive> jackhumm: also try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:19] <explosive> jackhumm: which laptop model is this? some need a little kicking in the balls to get uefi running
[11:19] <akik> glitchd: did you run the chown command ? it can also be that the usb stick is defective
[11:19] <cfhowlett> glitchd, did you use the startupdiskcreator from root or something?  never got a an easy analysis for why my USB would lock up that way.
[11:20] <jackhumm> explosive: lenovo ideapad 510
[11:20] <explosive> jackhumm: aha, it might need some
[11:20] <jackhumm> explosive: no such file for ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu
[11:20] <explosive> jackhumm: anyways, what does the ls command show?
[11:21] <glitchd> akik, im not sure what to fille the chown command out with
[11:21] <explosive> jackhumm: try "sudo grub-install"
[11:21] <glitchd> cfhowlett, no, i just plugged it in and tried to copy stuff to it and couldnt
[11:21] <jackhumm> grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[11:21] <akik> glitchd: see where it's mounted, then run "sudo chown -R yourusername /media/yourusername/nnnn" (replace with the relevant names and paths)
[11:22] <glitchd> akik, sudo chown glitchd:glitchd /dev/sdb1?
[11:22] <glitchd> ok
[11:22] <akik> glitchd: no, use the path name, not device name
[11:23] <explosive> jackhumm: odd, type "arch" what do you get?
[11:23] <ace_me> hi all
[11:23] <theyesman> hi ace_me
[11:23] <jackhumm> explosive: _x86_64
[11:23] <ace_me> I have an ubuntu where mysql refuses suddenly to start ! nothing in error.log under /var/log/mysql
[11:24] <explosive> jackhumm: try sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=x86_64-efi /dev/sda
[11:24] <jackhumm> explosive: x86_64
[11:24] <akik> glitchd: which filesystem do you have on the usb stick ?
[11:24] <glitchd> akik, geeze man thank you, ive been trying to figure this out for the last little bit, i wanted to try it myself before i came here. thank you again.
[11:24] <glitchd> cfhowlett, thank you also
[11:24] <glitchd> akik, its fixed now
[11:24] <ace_me> when I do  sudo -u mysql  mysqld I get [Warning] Using unique option prefix key_buffer instead of key_buffer_size is deprecated and
[11:24] <akik> glitchd: because if it's fat32/ntfs then the chown doesn't work
[11:24] <glitchd> akik, thx anyways
[11:24] <ace_me> Error on realpath() on '/var/lib/mysql-files' (Error 2)
[11:24] <jackhumm> explosive: efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[11:25] <akik> glitchd: ok
[11:25] <ace_me> [ERROR] Failed to access directory for --secure-file-priv.
[11:25] <explosive> jackhumm: ok try sudo modprobe efivars one last time and give it another go
[11:25] <ace_me> however mysql files ar under /var/lib/mysql not /var/lib/mysql-files as in that response from command
[11:26] <glitchd> akik, just so you know, it was ext4
[11:26] <laclinux> good morning, how do i see what version of linux im useing ?
[11:26] <glitchd> thanks guys, its just about bed time for me now
[11:26] <glitchd> lsb-release
[11:26] <cfhowlett> laclinux, cat /etc/issue
[11:26] <explosive> jackhumm: no worries btw, we are pretty much done
[11:27] <jackhumm> explosive: okay sudo modeprobe efivars done
[11:27] <laclinux> thank you cfhowlett
[11:27] <jackhumm> explosive: okay sudo modprobe efivars done
[11:27] <cfhowlett> happy2help! laclinux
[11:27] <ace_me> Hi all ! I have an ubuntu where mysql refuses suddenly to start ! nothing in error.log under /var/log/mysql  when I do  sudo -u mysql  mysqld I get [Warning] Using unique option prefix key_buffer instead of key_buffer_size is deprecated and [ERROR] Failed to access directory for --secure-file-priv. However mysql files ar under /var/lib/mysql not /var/lib/mysql-files as in that response from command ! can anyone here help me a bit to fix this 
[11:27] <glitchd> lol damnit
[11:27] <explosive> jackhumm: did the grub command work now or still says efi variables not supported?
[11:29] <jackhumm> explosive: okay sudo modeprobe efivars done/
[11:29] <jackhumm> explosive: grub command ?
[11:29] <explosive> jackhumm: sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=x86_64-efi /dev/sda
[11:30] <ace_me> service mysql restart outputs start: Job failed to start
[11:30] <ace_me> where should I find some error for this please ?
[11:31] <jackhumm> explosive: efivars not supported  , insallation finished
[11:31] <explosive> jackhumm: np
[11:32] <explosive> jackhumm: try ls /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu any grubx64.efi file?
[11:32] <explosive> *sudo ls
[11:32] <jackhumm> explosive: yes got it
[11:33] <jackhumm> explosive:  grubx64.efi and some grub.cfg
[11:34] <explosive> jackhumm: great, type sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[11:34] <for{}> how can i switch between windows found on different workspaces and how do i switch between windows on the same workspace?
[11:35] <for{}> in i3
[11:35] <jackhumm> explosive: done
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ctrl-tab usually for{}
[11:35] <py_> does anyone know a way to backup files via terminal?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !backup | py_
[11:35] <explosive> jackhumm: since it won't take the efivars to add ubuntu to the list, we'll backup the windows efi file, and put ubuntu instead to boot ubuntu, it's very likely the bios wouldn't boot ubuntu anyways and we'd have to that anyways to trick the bios, it's common on hp and lenovo especially
[11:35] <jackhumm> explosive: i have one more question lined up after this , anyway i can make triple finger swipe gesture to change workspace in ubuntu
[11:35] <for{}> cfhowlett, it doesnt work
[11:36] <explosive> jackhumm: i've no idea, it can be done pretty sure
[11:36] <jackhumm> explosive: okay, what i have to do
[11:36] <jackhumm> explosive: should i restart ?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> might be different with i3, for{} .  sorry.
[11:36] <explosive> jackhumm: sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[11:37] <explosive> jackhumm: no, we just switched the files, now bootmgfw.efi is the grubx64.efi renamed
[11:37] <jackhumm> explosive: yes done
[11:37] <explosive> jackhumm: one last step is to change the file that grub uses to look for windows efi
[11:37] <ducasse> for{}: mod+arrow keys
[11:37] <explosive> type sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[11:38] <sprocket12> Hi all. Small question, what does &> mean in "id -u lfs &>/dev/null"
[11:38] <jackhumm> explosive: ok
[11:38] <for{}> mod = alt key?
[11:38] <explosive> jackhumm: there's a line in the middle that says bootmgfw.efi make it bootmgfw.efi.backup
[11:38] <ducasse> for{}: whatever you set it to, usually alt or win
[11:39] <for{}> ducasse, it doesnt work
[11:39] <ducasse> for{}: it doesn't switch windows?
[11:39] <jackhumm> explosive: ok/
[11:39] <jackhumm> explosive: save it and exit?
[11:39] <for{}> it doesnt switch windows
[11:39] <explosive> jackhumm: yes
[11:39] <ducasse> for{}: which key did you try?
[11:40] <jackhumm> explosive: yes after that
[11:40] <explosive> jackhumm: try sudo update-grub now, see if it mentions windows
[11:40] <for{}> ducasse, windows in fullscreen, found on different workspaces. whats the combo to switch between?
[11:40] <ducasse> for{}: mod+number of workspace by default
[11:42] <for{}> ducasse, windows in fullscreen, found on the same workspace. whats the combo to switch between?
[11:42] <jackhumm> explosive: found windows recovery environment
[11:42] <explosive> jackhumm: no mention of bootmgfw.efi.backup ?
[11:42] <ducasse> for{}: only one window can be fullscreen on one workspace
[11:42] <ace_me> mysql-files folder was missing ! any ideea how this is possible ? it is a hacking attempt or could be a mysql failure ?
[11:42] <explosive> jackhumm: can you run "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" one more time?
[11:42] <jackhumm> explosive: when running sudo update-grub , no i think
[11:43] <for{}> ducasse, how can switch betwwen windows in the same workspace when the current window is fullscreen?
[11:43] <explosive> why is it still acting like grub legacy :S
[11:43] <sprocket12> Anyone?
[11:43] <ducasse> for{}: toggle fullscreen off again.
[11:43] <jackhumm> explosive: http://termbin.com/znro
[11:43] <explosive> jackhumm: thanks
[11:44] <for{}> ducasse, do you know another wm that can do what i want without toggling fullscreen?
[11:44] <explosive> jackhumm: odd, it's not there anymore
[11:44] <for{}> and light as i3
[11:44] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, np, one last thing as a precaution
[11:44] <jackhumm> explosive: i have grub-customizer installed , when i run it , it says burg found , want to customize burg instead of grub ?
[11:44] <jackhumm> explosive: oka
[11:45] <jackhumm> explosive: tell me
[11:45] <explosive> jackhumm: sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[11:45] <ducasse> for{}: i only use i3. but you probably don't want a tiling wm.
[11:45] <explosive> then sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
[11:45] <for{}> ducasse, do you have suggestions for another wm?
[11:46] <jackhumm> explosive: done both command
[11:46] <ducasse> for{}: as i said, i only use i3, that's what i know well. there are *tons* of wms.
[11:46] <for{}> ok
[11:46] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, try to restart, choose uefi mode in the bios
[11:46] <ducasse> for{}: you can script pretty much anything in i3, though.
[11:47] <explosive> jackhumm: ubuntu should load, then when it loads come back here, to get windows in the grub menu
[11:47] <rommel> anyone with a 2009 macbook-pro work out booting from usb... without os x or refind
[11:48] <explosive> and let me know how things went as well :D
[11:48] <ducasse> freecoder: fluxbox and openbox are both pretty light wms, but nowhere near as powerful as i3.
[11:48] <laclinux> how do i update to the latest verion ubuntu?
[11:48] <explosive> laclinux: from which version?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> laclinux, what version are you on?
[11:49] <for{}> ducasse, whats i3 features you love the most and other wms dont have?
[11:49] <laclinux> zorin9 Ultimate
[11:49] <ducasse> for{}: not sure, full keyboard control and ipc scripting maybe.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> laclinux, download the ubuntu .iso and clean install.  zorin is not ubuntu so you cannot upgrade to ubuntu
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !zorin | laclinux
[11:51] <laclinux> thanks
[11:51] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[11:53] <jackhumm> explosive: i restarted in efi mode , nothing went well , some recovery option started , and when i switched back to legacy mode , here i am back with ubuntu
[11:54] <glitchd> cfhowlett, i cant even count the times you have helped me. but theres been a lot.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> glitchd, this is how I learn ubuntu!  I track down answers to interesting problems.  that's why I am so happy2help!
[11:55] <explosive> jackhumm: recovery option for windows?
[11:55] <jackhumm> cfhowlett: thats good , i think you would have helped me somewhere in past , take a thanks
[11:55] <cfhowlett> jackhumm, happy2help! you as well
[11:55] <jackhumm> explosive: no , i think it was lenovo recovery option
[11:56] <explosive> jackhumm: aha
[11:56] <explosive> my experience with lenovo is that they're tricky son of a b.....
[11:56] <explosive> jackhumm: do you have an option for enabling or disabling secureboot in the bios?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:57] <rebo> question, what's the difference between /media and /mnt?
[11:57] <rebo> are there any recommendations with regards to mounting drives
[11:57] <explosive> rebo: temporary mounts in /mnt
[11:57] <explosive> /media is like for the user stuff
[11:57] <glitchd> explosive, just and fyi, if he disables secureboot, windows will not boot, but linux will. so if he wants to boot into windows later, he will have to switch it back
[11:57] <jackhumm> explosive: or we can say they are shitty boxes , because we cant install and run ubuntu on them
[11:57] <explosive> the filemanager mounts stuff there when you click on the usb
[11:58] <jackhumm> explosive: i dont know about this secureboot thing
[11:58] <rebo> explosive: so fixed drive should go under /media
[11:58] <jackhumm> explosive: i dont know about this secureboot thing/
[11:58] <explosive> glitchd: no windows still boots with secureboot off
[11:58] <jackhumm> explosive: what should i do?
[11:58] <rebo> ok, thanks
[11:58] <glitchd> explosive, my other toshiba laptop wouldnt.
[11:59] <glitchd> explosive, thats the only reason i felt the need to say something
[11:59] <explosive> jackhumm: try to go to the bios and see if there's any option regarding secureboot, if there's not, try to set the admin password for the bios it sometimes lets you change more stuff
[12:00] <explosive> glitchd: never came across that before, not saying i dont believe you
[12:00] <glitchd> it may not be called secureboot in the bios also
[12:00] <glitchd> on the toshiba it was a boot mode switch with 2 options, i dont really remember them but i think one was called csm..?
[12:01] <explosive> that's to choose legacy
[12:01] <explosive> jackhumm: which ideapad was it again, maybe google can shed some light
[12:02] <jackhumm> explosive: ideapad 510
[12:02] <glitchd> explosive, i think youre right, legacy and csm
[12:02] <glitchd> ..i thuink
[12:03] <explosive> jackhumm: it's pretty odd, in uefi mode by default it looks for efi/boot/bootx64.efi and efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi and boots them, both of them are now ubuntu's grubx64.efi
[12:04] <explosive> jackhumm: maybe somehow ubuntu isn't in its key list for secureboot and it defaults to a recovery option
[12:04] <jackhumm> explosive: should i try disabling secureboot
[12:04] <explosive> i read that microsoft and lenovo were playing dirty and not allowing linux and other to be installed
[12:04] <glitchd> its just a way for microsoft to stick it to the free software community
[12:04] <explosive> jackhumm: yes
[12:04] <glitchd> exactly
[12:05] <glitchd> thats precisely what theyre doing
[12:05] <jackhumm> explosive: then they can l* my a** , because i am learning developement and programming and i wont remove ubuntu
[12:05] <jackhumm> explosive: i need dual boot because i can install photoshop and stuff on taht
[12:06] <jackhumm> explosive: thats pretty sad , that they are not allowing ubuntu and windows dual boot
[12:06] <glitchd> jackhumm, why not do single boot with ubuntu and install windoze in a vm?
[12:06] <explosive> jackhumm: yup, other companies are doing the same, just lenovo is very.. the word is like over the top i think
[12:06] <rebo> another question. in my secondary disk, it seems I cant delete files by sending them to the trash, only permanent deletes
[12:06] <explosive> hp also doesn't boot the ubuntu grub file by default, it also resets to boot windows unless you switch the files
[12:07] <jackhumm> glitchd: because , vm uses lots of resources i think
[12:07] <rebo> I noticed there is no .trash* folder on root folder, which I assume is the reason
[12:07] <rebo> how can I create one, with proper permissions?
[12:07] <explosive> lenovo on another pc pretended to let me switch it in the bios after setting the admin password, then after a restart it switched them back :D
[12:07] <explosive> slippery snake
[12:07] <glitchd> jackhumm, well..umm..it is like another computer running..inside your computer, so yea i could see that
[12:08] <glitchd> but ive had really good luck with running windows in a vm
[12:08] <explosive> rebo: it's .Trash-<your uuid>
[12:08] <glitchd> i didnt actually boot into the windows side of my laptop for more than a year
[12:08] <rebo> explosive: so i just create one with my permissions?
[12:08] <glitchd> doing it that way
[12:09] <explosive> glitchd: for gaming/photoshop stuff like that a vm would suffer a little
[12:09] <glitchd> of course, i wasnt doing photoshop type stuff in the vm either
[12:09] <jackhumm> glitchd: i dont want to go vm way
[12:09] <glitchd> yep your right explosive
[12:09] <glitchd> jackhumm, i was just wondering really
[12:09] <jackhumm> and i dont have money to buy mac
[12:09] <glitchd> jackhumm, wasnt trying to tell you what to do or anything
[12:09] <explosive> rebo: it gets created automatically when you send a file to the trash that's on that filesystem
[12:10] <jackhumm> cheap 1000$ laptops are my thing
[12:10] <glitchd> hey! thats all ive ever had lol
[12:10] <for{}> ducasse, how can i see all i3 commands and their syntax?
[12:10] <ducasse> for{}: in the userguide
[12:10] <rebo> explosive: but when i click delete on a file, it says it cant put in trash, only immediate delete
[12:10] <glitchd> jackhumm, also, you can install mac os on a regular pc nowdays
[12:11] <glitchd> rebo,  how big is the file?
[12:11] <jackhumm> cheap 1000$ laptops are my thing/
[12:11] <for{}> ducasse, yes, i found it
[12:11] <for{}> thanks
[12:11] <rebo> any file really, small or big
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> for{}  https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html
[12:11] <rebo> a text file a few kb's
[12:11] <glitchd> rebo, i thnk theres a setting for that..
[12:11] <jackhumm> glitchd: hackintosh ?
[12:11] <explosive> rebo: which filemanager?
[12:11] <glitchd> jackhumm, basically
[12:12] <rebo> explosive: nautilus
[12:12] <glitchd> jackhumm, ive run a hackentosh beore
[12:12] <explosive> rebo: right click doesn't show "move to trash" ?
[12:12] <glitchd> before&*
[12:12] <glitchd> dangit
[12:12] <glitchd> fat fingers over here
[12:12] <explosive> rebo: how is it mounted?
[12:12] <glitchd> lol
[12:12] <rebo> explosive: yes, but gives error message I described
[12:12] <jackhumm> glitchd: but i am sure, not everything will work out of box.
[12:12] <rebo> explosive: mounted using "defaults" mount option
[12:12] <explosive> rebo: which error? i missed it
[12:12] <glitchd> jackhumm, yea at one point i had windows linux and mac on one hdd
[12:13] <jackhumm> glitchd: it will feel like a fake mac, and it will ruin that eperience forever
[12:13] <glitchd> jackhumm, thats hilarious
[12:13] <rebo> explosive: error message = ("file" can't be put in the trash. do you want to delete it immediately?)
[12:13] <glitchd> jackhumm, its not really an "experience", is just an OS
[12:14] <rebo> really a dialog not an error
[12:14] <jackhumm> glitchd: because , i haveseend tutorials about hackintosh , and there are always things like what doesnt work ,
[12:14] <explosive> rebo: that's odd
[12:14] <explosive> rebo: can you do "mount | grep /path/to/filesystem" and paste the result?
[12:14] <glitchd> jackhumm, but its the same with linux, theres always a chance that somnething just wont work with the os
[12:14] <glitchd> but there are usually fixes for almost everything
[12:15] <for{}> how can i have a window moved to a workspace automatically when opened?
[12:15] <for{}> in i3
[12:15] <rebo> explosive: the entry in /etc/fstab is: UUID=<...> /media/data     ext4    defaults          0       0
[12:15] <explosive> rebo: oh ok
[12:15] <ducasse> for{}: all of the things you ask are covered in the userguide
[12:15] <explosive> rebo: it's cause it's not mounted as your user
[12:15] <for{}> ducasse, i set 'for_window [class="Google-chrome-stable"] move window to worskpace number 2'
[12:16] <explosive> rebo: so it can't create the .Trash, i bet it can't actually delete it either
[12:16] <rebo> i can delete stuff actually
[12:16] <rebo> just not to trash
[12:16] <rebo> only immediately
[12:16] <rebo> like I said, there is no .trash folder I can see
[12:17] <explosive> rebo: it gets recreated, i tried deleting it just now
[12:17] <explosive> rebo: try to mount the usb as your user from the filemanager
[12:18] <rebo> it's not a usb, but a secondary hard disk
[12:18] <ducasse> for{}: http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#assign_workspace
[12:18] <explosive> rebo: oh
[12:18] <explosive> rebo: just noticed it's ext4 not ntfs
[12:18] <explosive> rebo: is the main dir owned by your user
[12:19] <rebo> the top folder is owned by root|root
[12:19] <py_> explosive: how do I enter recovery mode from the liveusb?
[12:20] <rebo> the subfolder I'm in (with the file i'm deleting) is owned by my user
[12:20] <explosive> py_: boot the live usb in try ubuntu
[12:20] <py_> and then what?
[12:21] <explosive> rebo: i think it needs the root dir to be owned by your user to create the .Trash
[12:21] <rebo> i'll try that
[12:21] <explosive> py_: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the pastebin link it gives you
[12:21] <rebo> aha! it worked
[12:21] <for{}> ducasse, it worked! thanks!
[12:22] <rebo> thanks explosive
[12:22] <explosive> jackhumm: still there buddy
[12:22] <explosive> ?
[12:22] <explosive> rebo: great, no problem
[12:22] <jackhumm> explosive: now windoWS won't boot in efi mode. Anyway i can return back?
[12:22] <glitchd> jackhumm, i just said that
[12:22] <explosive> glitchd: we switched the files thats why
[12:22] <glitchd> i said unless you change back what you changed in the bios, windows wont boot
[12:23] <glitchd> switched what files?
[12:23] <explosive> jackhumm: did you disable secureboot?
[12:23] <explosive> glitchd: bootmgfw.efi and bootx64.efi with grubx64.efi
[12:23] <glitchd> ohh
[12:23] <jackhumm> was already disabled
[12:24] <explosive> jackhumm: and you get a lenovo recovery right now when it boots in uefi mode?
[12:24] <explosive> jackhumm: do you have any option to "trust" efi files or something like that?
[12:24] <jackhumm> explosive: yes
[12:24] <explosive> jackhumm: try to press f12 when the pc boots and see if you get a uefi list
[12:25] <jackhumm> explosive: no option like that
[12:25] <py_> explosive: http://termbin.com/jw6l any ideas?
[12:25] <Gitup> Gte in to the bios an d look for boot priority?
[12:25] <explosive> py_: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:26] <explosive> py_: then type the following line "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[12:26] <jackhumm> explosive: f12 gives me a list
[12:26] <explosive> jackhumm: ok, try choosing ubuntu
[12:26] <explosive> or rather windows i guess
[12:26] <explosive> hmm, can you browse for a file?
[12:27] <jackhumm> yeah. But should i choose it when i am in legacy mode or efi?
[12:27] <explosive> efi
[12:27] <jackhumm> Wait
[12:28] <py_> explosive: done
[12:28] <explosive> py_: sudo chroot /mnt
[12:28] <jackhumm> Ubuntu has been blocked by the current security policy
[12:28] <py_> explosive: done
[12:29] <explosive> jackhumm: lolz
[12:29] <py_> explosive: any other step?
[12:29] <explosive> jackhumm: try to set the admin password
[12:29] <explosive> py_: yes, now the fun begins
[12:29] <explosive> py_: try dpkg --configure -a
[12:30] <py_> explosive: done
[12:30] <explosive> py_: apt-get -f install
[12:30] <py_> explosive: done
[12:30] <jackhumm> explosive: will it make any difference
[12:30] <explosive> py_: give it a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:30] <explosive> jackhumm: it might allow you to boot other os and stuff
[12:31] <py_> explosive: all these commands while being in the livesusb, right?
[12:31] <explosive> it might give a "trust" option too, acer does that
[12:31] <explosive> py_: yes
[12:31] <py_> explosive: will I lose my files etc?
[12:31] <explosive> jackhumm: worse case scenario you have to reinstall windows & ubuntu both in legacy mode
[12:32] <jackhumm> explosive: blocked msg again after setting admin password
[12:32] <explosive> py_: no, that just updates the system, no worries about user files and stuff
[12:32] <py_> explosive: done. Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out by the way.
[12:33] <jackhumm> explosive: i have ubuntu already on legacy
[12:33] <explosive> jackhumm: yeah
[12:33] <explosive> i guess you could convert windows or reinstall it
[12:33] <jackhumm> explosive : and i dont have windows disk. I came already installed
[12:33] <explosive> then reinstall grub from an ubuntu live usb and you'd be good
[12:34] <py_> explosive: next step?
[12:34] <explosive> jackhumm: oh, i converted my windows 10 legacy that came installed to uefi without a windows disk
[12:34] <unixLike_> Ciao
[12:35] <explosive> jackhumm: it's gonna be a little messy and tricky
[12:35] <explosive> windows doesn't like gpt partitions with legacy, only uefi
[12:35] <unixLike_> Hello
[12:35] <jackhumm> explosive : any way to convert windoWS efi to legacy and then make it show on grub menu
[12:35] <py_> explosive: any other command left?
[12:36] <explosive> py_: yeah
[12:36] <explosive> py_: did it actually update anything?
[12:37] <explosive> jackhumm: you can convert the partition table to msdos, do you have any important stuff on the pc though?
[12:37] <py_> explosive: not much really
[12:37] <explosive> py_: exactly what was the error you got when you tried to boot earlier?
[12:37] <explosive> i forgot
[12:38] <maciej> hi
[12:38] <py_> explosive: your screen, graphics card, and input dfevice settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure htem yourself
[12:39] <liushuang> hello
[12:39] <dianxin> 你好
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[12:39] <py_> explosive: I googled for an hour straight but nothing really helped
[12:39] <maciej> who speaks Polish ?
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[12:40] <glitchd> goodnite all
[12:40] <py_> explosive: any other ideas?
[12:41] <explosive> py_: ok, dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" && $2 ~ /xorg/ { print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall -y
[12:41] <explosive> that should reinstall all packages that contain the word xorg
[12:41] <explosive> maybe it'll help
[12:42] <explosive> py_: which ubuntu version are you using?
[12:42] <py_> explosive: 16.04
[12:42] <py_> explosive: xenial 64-bit
[12:42] <explosive> jackhumm: do you want to convert back til you figure out what can be done?
[12:43] <explosive> jackhumm: it's a matter of switching back the files so windows will boot again, just 2 cp commands
[12:43] <explosive> py_: ok, which kernel? type ls -l /vmlinuz
[12:44] <explosive> just give the 4.4....part
[12:45] <py_> explosive: 4.4.0-47-generic
[12:45] <for{}> in i3 config, i placed this line: 'exec xset dpms 5 5 5 '
[12:45] <explosive> ok
[12:45] <for{}> but nothing happens
[12:45] <for{}> `xset q` shows nothing was altered
[12:45] <explosive> py_: do you have any graphics card?
[12:46] <for{}> the same command entered in my terminal works
[12:46] <py_> explosive: doesn't every machine have one?
[12:46] <explosive> py_: try also dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" && $2 ~ /mesa/ { print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall -y
[12:46] <ducasse> for{}: did you log out and in again?
[12:46] <for{}> ducasse, i only pressed alt+shift+r
[12:46] <py_> explosive: done
[12:47] <for{}> ducasse, shoud i log out?
[12:47] <for{}> *should
[12:47] <ducasse> for{}: http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#exec
[12:47] <explosive> py_: i mean like an nvidia one?
[12:48] <warrshrike> I'm trying to set up OpenVPN on an AWS server.
[12:48] <py_> explosive: I found a command earlier this morning, something like lcpi -l or something and it listed the drivers but now I forgot so I can't tell for sure
[12:48] <warrshrike> the client keeps saying connection refused
[12:48] <warrshrike> nmap only shows port 22 ssh as open
[12:48] <ikonia> warrshrike: what does the server logs show
[12:49] <ikonia> can you connect to the port as a test
[12:49] <warrshrike> but ufw says both 1194 and ssh is open
[12:49] <warrshrike> how do i view logs
[12:49] <explosive> py_: ok, type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[12:49] <ikonia> warrshrike: not what I asked
[12:49] <ikonia> warrshrike: you don't know how to view the logs but your'e trying to setup a vpn server with complex routing
[12:49] <ikonia> warrshrike: I think you need to step back - why are you trying to setup a vpn server ?
[12:50] <warrshrike> I was following a tutorial...because I live in an oppressive country with censorship brother
[12:50] <ikonia> warrshrike: sorry - not helping you with that
[12:50] <warrshrike> why not?
[12:50] <explosive> jackhumm: you there?
[12:50] <py_> explosive:  AMD/ATI
[12:50] <explosive> py_: ok, cool
[12:50] <ikonia> warrshrike: because a.) I don't think you have the basic understanding to do this b.) I'm not helping you get past your ISP's toc
[12:51] <warrshrike> I have plenty of understanding I think :). I'm a software developer and researcher and I have several publications in networks
[12:51] <ikonia> warrshrike: you don't know how to view the logs
[12:51] <ikonia> warrshrike: thats basic understanding
[12:52] <warrshrike> I just haven't futzed around with ubuntu. thats sysadmin stuff common
[12:52] <explosive> py_: you are using ubuntu right? unity?
[12:52] <ikonia> warrshrike: ok - so if you are as skilled as you say you are, you should be able to do basic debugging and come back with something a bit more specific question wise
[12:52] <explosive> py_: i got some hits on google about the issue
[12:52] <warrshrike> I prefer emulation test beds etc.
[12:52] <explosive> i'll relay the stuff there
[12:52] <warrshrike> I tried that. I'l try being more specific
[12:52] <ikonia> warrshrike: so you don't have the experience as I said
[12:53] <ikonia> warrshrike: either a.) you don't have the experience b.) you do have the experience and you've not done the basic checks, which is it ?
[12:53] <py_> explosive: alright, shoot it
[12:53] <Gitup> ikonia: you sound mean
[12:53] <warrshrike> but I understand the concepts of networking pretty well. I think this isn't going anywhere
[12:53] <py_> explosive: not sure if it's unity or not, sorry, but yes, ubuntu
[12:53] <warrshrike> I agree he does. but its okay
[12:53] <ikonia> warrshrike: you don't - you've not even checked if the ports can be accessed
[12:54] <explosive> py_: did you have icons on the left with the first one opening a search?
[12:54] <warrshrike> Lemme ask a more precise question. Despite opening a port with ufw (1194), nmap still doesnt should it as accessible. Any idea?
[12:54] <ikonia> warrshrike: nmap is not a valid test
[12:54] <py_> explosive: what do you mean with the first one opening a search?
[12:54] <ikonia> warrshrike: hence why I said "check the actual connection to the port'
[12:54] <explosive> py_: it opens a search window for applications and stuff
[12:55] <py_> explosive: yes, it's working
[12:55] <warrshrike> Okay checking
[12:55] <explosive> py_: i mean in the actual install you have, it has that bar?
[12:55] <py_> explosive: yes
[12:55] <explosive> py_: ok, it's unity then
[12:56] <explosive> py_: ok, try apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <warrshrike> telnet 35.156.93.111 1194 says connection refused
[12:56] <ikonia> warrshrike: so is the daemon listening
[12:56] <ikonia> warrshrike: have you opened the AWS security gorup
[12:56] <ikonia> group
[12:56] <py_> explosive: I tried that before but it requires dependencies, i.e checkbox-gui, unity-webapps-common
[12:57] <explosive> py_: hmm it should go smoothl
[12:57] <explosive> y
[12:57] <warrshrike> Yes the OpenVPN service is running. I added TCP/1194 is to the security group
[12:57] <explosive> py_: try apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:57] <ikonia> warrshrike: did you define the port in the config, what mode is the openvpn server running in
[12:57] <explosive> py_: also some guy said his root fs was full and it gave that error, try "df -h" and check that there is available space
[12:58] <ikonia> warrshrike: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[12:58] <ikonia> warrshrike: how did you install openvpn server
[12:58] <py_> explosive: http://termbin.com/mpnu alright lemme see
[12:59] <warrshrike> apt-get install openvpn | ubuntu 16.04 | and yeah
[12:59] <ikonia> "yeah" to what ?
[12:59] <jarlath> One of my 16.04 machines on the network can connect to the router but not ping out. Any ideas where I can start troubleshooting?
[12:59] <py_> explosive: http://termbin.com/67fd
[12:59] <ikonia> jarlath:do you have an actual problem, or is "ping" a problem
[12:59] <warrshrike> this https://codepaste.net/95r81u
[13:00] <warrshrike> the config for openvpn
[13:00] <jarlath> ikonia: no internet, dropbox can't connect etc.
[13:00] <jarlath> but the connection to the router is established. It's a common issue on the machine.
[13:00] <ikonia> jarlath: look at your dns server and your default route
[13:00] <ikonia> warrshrike: you have it listening on a tun device
[13:00] <py_> explosive: so what do you think?
[13:00] <ikonia> warrshrike: thats not an interface
[13:00] <ikonia> warrshrike: are you using tht as a pass through to a phsyical device ?
[13:01] <warrshrike> Hmm I'm not sure about that. I got that config from the tutorial
[13:01] <warrshrike> Should I have listen on lan instead? as received by ifconfig
[13:01] <ikonia> I don't know what tutorial you are reading (not bothered either) but unless you have that tun device mapped to a physical device that interface will never response
[13:01] <ikonia> respond
[13:02] <warrshrike> right. So I should switch to eth0?
[13:02] <ikonia> re-read what I said
[13:02] <warrshrike> My vm has eth0 and localhost only
[13:02] <ikonia> your vm ? are you using an EC2 compute resource ?
[13:02] <jackhumm> explosive : tell me if i can convert my existing windows parttion to legacy and make it show on grub
[13:02] <warrshrike> yes.
[13:03] <explosive> py_: the space looks good
[13:03] <explosive> py_: try apt-get install --reinstall checkbox-gui | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:03] <warrshrike> so you're saying i should map tun to a physical device?
[13:03] <explosive> jackhumm: py_ i will be back in couple mins, making a hotdog
[13:03] <ikonia> warrshrike: I'm saying that if you are using a tun device and that has no map to a physcal device it will never work
[13:04] <ikonia> warrshrike: how you resolve that is up to you and your tutorial
[13:04] <ikonia> I'm not going to advise you to change anything as that will screw up the rest of your tutorial
[13:04] <py_> explosive: "Unable to correct problems, you have help broken packages"
[13:04] <py_> held*
[13:05] <warrshrike> I get that. The tut just leaves it hanging
[13:05] <jarlath> ikonia: I can't find specific DNS info, other than that I'm a DHCP connection. Maybe that provides it's own DNS? ip route shows a default of "via 192.168.0.2" and lists my wifi interface.
[13:05] <warrshrike> Given I just want to connect to this from openvpn client...what can I do to make that work?
[13:05] <ikonia> jarlath: is 192.168.0.2 your gateway / router
[13:06] <JuJuBee> I have a 1T HD that is acting up.  Disks tells me that the health was OK and 10500 bad sectors.  If I repartition it and format (zero) how can I test it?
[13:06] <ikonia> warrshrike: I don't know your tutorial (don't want to either) so I can't comment as I don't know what you've done/not done, I can however tell you that tun device will never work
[13:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: why do you think formatting it will fix sectors ?
[13:06] <JuJuBee> I don't
[13:06] <ikonia> then why are you doing it ?
[13:06] <jarlath> ikonia: I log into my router via 192.168.0.1 for the web interface. Not sure how other clients connect though.
[13:07] <JuJuBee> Won't it mark them as bad and unusable?
[13:07] <ikonia> JuJuBee: no
[13:07] <ikonia> JuJuBee: ok so 192.168.0.1 is your router, I'd imagine that is your gateway
[13:07] <ikonia> JuJuBee: oops, sorry not you
[13:07] <ikonia> jarlath: ok so 192.168.0.1 is your router, I'd imagine that is your gateway
[13:07] <jarlath> ikonia: the working computer (working network/internet) uses *.101 not *.102
[13:07] <ikonia> jarlath: so if your client has a gateway of 192.168.0.2 - it's never going to get out
[13:07] <jarlath> ikonia: thank you.
[13:08] <ikonia> jarlath: so either a.) the bad computer is getting the wrong dhcp info (from somewhere else) b.) it has hardcoded IP info
[13:08] <explosive> py_: anything else?
[13:08] <JuJuBee> ikonia: OK then... is there a way to mark them and is 10500 toooo many?
[13:08] <jarlath> ikonia: I can figure it out from here. Much appreciated, I was lost.
[13:09] <py_> explosive: "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" that's it
[13:09] <explosive> py_: both packages seem not important at all
[13:10] <explosive> one is a dummy package that can be removed and the other is some webapp scripts examples and stuff
[13:10] <explosive> py_: something is up with the package manager though
[13:10] <py_> explosive: maybe something is up with the repos?
[13:10] <py_> explosive: the sources?
[13:11] <explosive> py_: maybe
[13:11] <explosive> do you have any ppa's added?
[13:12] <py_> explosive: probs, how do I check it?
[13:12] <warrshrike> Sorry lost connectivity
[13:13] <warrshrike> lemme know if i missed any msgs in last 5 minutes
[13:13] <explosive> py_: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:13] <warrshrike> so any idea how to port
[13:14] <py_> explosive: http://termbin.com/zyrn
[13:15] <explosive> jackhumm: https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=580
[13:15] <explosive> jackhumm: let's get stuff the way it was earlier? so windows can boot in uefi mode right now
[13:16] <py_> explosive: lemme know what you thikn
[13:16] <py_> think*
[13:16] <explosive> py_: type nano /etc/apt/source.list
[13:16] <explosive> py_: type nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:17] <explosive> at the bottom comment out the line that says precise partner in it
[13:17] <py_> explosive: in both of them?
[13:17] <explosive> yeah
[13:17] <DTop> afternoon all! , im sure i have an easy question and i kinda have an idea how to fix it , but before i break the system i wanted to ask if im doing the right thing :P
[13:17] <py_> explosive: done
[13:18] <explosive> py_: ok type apt-get update
[13:18] <py_> explosive: DONE
[13:18] <py_> oops sorry about the caps
[13:18] <DTop> I did a fresh installation of ununtu 16.04 / 16.10 (and tried server variants) on my xenserver host. Unfortunately it seems that default X will not boot. At first it said module cirrus not found , so i installed that
[13:19] <explosive> py_: np
[13:19] <py_> explosive: so now should I retry the --reinstall ubuntu-desktop command?
[13:19] <explosive> py_: try grep greeter-session /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[13:19] <DTop> now i get the message in Xorg.log (EE) cirrus : the pci device 0xb8 at bal bla has a kernel module claiming it. (EE) cirrus : the driver cannot operate until it has been unloaded.
[13:19] <warrshrike> So are you gonna help me. How to open port 1194 on ubuntu
[13:20] <warrshrike> I opened it using ufw
[13:20] <py_> explosive: no such file or directory. I found a link on google where it was saying to replace lightdm with gdm, just letting you know
[13:21] <explosive> py_: ok, try "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log /home/<your user>/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:21] <py_> explosive: I have a lightdm.conf.d and users.conf files under the the lightdm directory
[13:21] <jackhumm>  Explosive : how to get it back?
[13:22] <explosive> jackhumm: boot into ubuntu in legacy mode
[13:22] <DTop> http://termbin.com/klbi
[13:22] <jackhumm> explosive: okay done
[13:23] <py_> explosive: http://termbin.com/avhn
[13:23] <explosive> jackhumm: type sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi.backup /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
[13:23] <DTop> http://termbin.com/klbi <-- Xsession errors , http://termbin.com/zvnb <-- Xorg.0.log
[13:23] <explosive> jackhumm: and sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[13:24] <oklolz> my upgrade to 16.10 failed in the middle and now i can't start ubuntu. what should i do next. it downloaded all the packages though
[13:24] <py_> explosive: thoughts?
[13:24] <explosive> jackhumm: then type sudo sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi.backup/bootmgfw.efi/' /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[13:25] <oklolz> my upgrade to 16.10 failed in the middle and now i can't start ubuntu. what should i do next. it downloaded all the packages though
[13:26] <for{}> ducasse, i wanna bind to some keys "/bin/true". is there an i3 equivalent of "/bin/true"?
[13:26] <py_> explosive: does it look normal?
[13:26] <explosive> py_: in the end there's an error about not being able to create ~/.dbus/session-bus
[13:26] <oklolz> please help me
[13:27] <explosive> py_: try find /home/<your user> ! -user <your user>
[13:27] <ducasse> for{}: http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#_nop
[13:27] <ducasse> !patience | oklolz
[13:27] <explosive> py_: nothing should appear unless you have files there you want to be owned by another user intentionally
[13:27] <py_> explosive: there is ton of files
[13:27] <jackhumm> explosive: i will return back few hours
[13:28] <BluesKaj> oklolz, how far do you get, does the ubuntu logo show or /
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:28] <for{}> ducasse, once again, thanks a lot
[13:28] <explosive> py_: ok, if you haven't intentionally done it then run chown -R <your user>: /home/<your user>
[13:28] <explosive> jackhumm: ok
[13:28] <oklolz> BluesKaj: i chose recovery mode and it let me log in after choosing Resume start up
[13:29] <py_> explosive: what will happen to those files though?
[13:29] <explosive> py_: everything will be owned by your user
[13:29] <py_> explosive: so does it change practically anything?
[13:30] <py_> explosive: done
[13:30] <BluesKaj> oklolz, and what happened ?next
[13:30] <oklolz> BluesKaj: once logged it the desktop started blinking
[13:30] <explosive> py_: ok, give it a try
[13:31] <explosive> type exit and then try rebooting
[13:32] <BluesKaj> oklolz, did you try  ctl+alt+F1-F6 to get a VT/TTY, login, then update and upgrade from there?
[13:32] <oklolz> nop will do it now
[13:32] <py_> explosive: shit luck, same issue
[13:32] <oklolz> nop will do it now BluesKaj
[13:32] <BluesKaj> oklolz, ok
[13:33] <BluesKaj> oklolz, do that at the login page
[13:33] <oklolz> BluesKaj: ok
[13:35] <py_> explosive: I can enter my box via terminal with ctrl + alt + f1 btw
[13:35] <sree> hi i recently installed ubuntu studio and need help related very high temparature
[13:35] <explosive> py_: aha
[13:35] <py_> explosive: maybe I should have told you that before xD
[13:35] <oklolz> BluesKaj: what do i press to go to the recovery menu? i pressed F12 and it worked but not now
[13:36] <explosive> py_: hehe
[13:36] <explosive> py_: i dont have many ideas left except to try gdm as you said
[13:36] <py_> explosive: what do you mean by "try gdm"?
[13:37] <explosive> installing gdm instead of lightdm
[13:37] <py_> explosive: ah got it.
[13:37] <py_> explosive: alright, I appreciate your help
[13:38] <BluesKaj> oklolz,  try the left shift key right after the post page
[13:38] <oklolz> BluesKaj: pressed Esc and it worked
[13:39] <oklolz> resuming now
[13:39] <BluesKaj> oklolz, so you have grub
[13:40] <oklolz> BluesKaj: crt alt f1or f6  doesnt do anything
[13:40] <oklolz> BluesKaj: log in screen is there
[13:41] <sree> hi any one who can help me please?
[13:41] <fabzzap> lately, my Ubuntu 16.10 installation is often popping up a window "Ubuntu found an internal error", and the details say "DuplicateOf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1630220"
[13:41] <BluesKaj> oklolz, at the login page ..ok try ctl+alt+F2 or F3 etc
[13:42] <jatt> fabzzap: you have files in /var/crash?
[13:42] <fabzzap> that URL gives a "not found" page... I keep selecting "send a report" but then I'm not sure it will have any use...
[13:42] <oklolz> BluesKaj: none from f1 to f12 worked. still in log in page
[13:42] <explosive> py_: does this file exist? /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[13:42] <fabzzap> jatt: yes, 3, _usr_bin_signonpluginprocess.1000.{crash,upload,uploaded}
[13:43] <jatt> fabzzap: remove tehm
[13:43] <jatt> fabzzap: them
[13:43] <fabzzap> what worries me is the "duplicateOf" pointing to a "not found" page
[13:43] <sree> i recently installed ubuntu studio and my laptop is heating up too much either my fan is blowing of shut, but xsensors show temp as either 45-50 deg
[13:43] <BluesKaj> oklolz, are you pressing the ctl+alt+F3 etc keys at the same time
[13:43] <oklolz> BluesKaj: yep
[13:43] <explosive> py_: try "startx unity" in the tty1 and see if it loads it fine
[13:44] <explosive> py_: then you can know if it might be a lightdm issue
[13:44] <jarlath> ikonia: DNS is now good, IP assigned is unique. The machine can only load part of the router's homepage and can't ping out. Router shows the machine is connected via DHCP. I can see from the Dropbox client that the connection comes and goes.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> oklolz, make sure your caps lock isn't enabled
[13:44] <py_> explosive: no there is no .failsafe file
[13:44] <oklolz> BluesKaj: not enabled
[13:44] <py_> explosive: gonna try statx then
[13:44] <ikonia> jarlath: what is the default gateway
[13:45] <jarlath> ikonia: default via 192.168.0.1
[13:45] <ikonia> jarlath: so that looks good
[13:45] <py_> explosive: I pressed startx before and all I got was a blackscreen. As in, it loaded but it was all black
[13:45] <ikonia> jarlath: so what's the actual problem now ?
[13:45] <py_> explosive: I get errors when I type "unity" with startx
[13:46] <jarlath> ikonia: I can't browse the web
[13:46] <ikonia> jarlath, what is the error you get
[13:46] <sree> can any one please help me
[13:46] <jarlath> ikonia: "Connecting..." in the browser. Ping says 100% packet loss for google.ie
[13:46] <py_> explosive: I get "/urs/bin/xterm: no absolute path for shell: unity
[13:47] <BluesKaj> oklolz, maybe legacy mode in the UEFI/BIOS
[13:47] <py_> explosive: xinit: connection to X server lost
[13:47] <ikonia> jarlath: stop using ping as a test
[13:47] <ikonia> jarlath: what happens if you "ping 8.8.8.8"
[13:47] <py_> explosive: waiting for X server to shut down, server terminated succeessfully, closing log file
[13:48] <py_> explosive: I actually have a .failsafe file, just saw it
[13:48] <jarlath> ikonia: I get responses "time=124ms"
[13:48] <ikonia> jarlath: so ping is working
[13:48] <ikonia> jarlath: what isn't working is your dns
[13:48] <explosive> py_: aha nice
[13:48] <explosive> try to remove it
[13:48] <explosive> py_: that might be it
[13:48] <ikonia> jarlath: hence "stop using ping as a test"
[13:48] <explosive> py_: then try sudo service lightdm restart
[13:48] <py_> explosive: rm name.failsafe, right?
[13:48] <explosive> py_: yes
[13:48] <jarlath> ikonia: Ah, great info thank you
[13:48] <oklolz> BluesKaj: what a bout legacy?
[13:49] <explosive> py_: you'll need to use sudo
[13:49] <BluesKaj> oklolz, try legacy mode
[13:49] <oklolz> BluesKaj: i am on legacy mode
[13:50] <py_> explosive: I got an error: lightdm.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status lightdm.service" and "journalctfl -xe" for details
[13:50] <BluesKaj> well then I'm stumped oklolz
[13:51] <oklolz> BluesKaj: thank you anways
[13:51] <BluesKaj> you get a login page , but no VT/shell, never seen that before, oklolz
[13:52] <BluesKaj> can anyone else help oklolz, he gets alogin page , but can't drop to a VT/TTY
[13:52] <explosive> py_: try to restart the pc and see what happens now that the file is gone
[13:52] <oklolz> BluesKaj: what else can i do. i get log in page only when i choose resume from recovery mode
[13:53] <oklolz> BluesKaj: otherwise just a black page
[13:53] <zoggi> hai
[13:54] <zoggi> tes
[13:54] <BluesKaj> yes, and at the login page you should be able to get to a virtual terminal with the ctl+alt+F1 to F6 keys , oklolz
[13:54] <py_> explosive: same, not my day today
[13:54] <oklolz> BluesKaj: what should i do then if i get there
[13:55] <py_> explosive: now that I restarted it, I get the .failsafe again
[13:55] <BluesKaj> oklolz, then you login at the prompt and give your pwd, then sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[13:56] <oklolz> BluesKaj: ok thank you
[13:57] <BluesKaj> oklolz, you may have to enable the networking on the page that comes up after choosing the recovery kernel
[13:57] <py_> explosive: any ideas left?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> oklolz, you coulsd also try repair broken packages on that page
[13:58] <explosive> py_: try "startx xterm"
[13:58] <oklolz> BluesKaj: will do all that. thank you
[13:58] <BluesKaj> oklolz, ok
[13:58] <py_> explosive: I got an xterm terminal
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> oklolz  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[13:59] <for{}> ducasse, do you know what might be the problem: bindsym KP_Subtract exec /usr/bin/zsh -c "xset dpms 10 10 10;/usr/bin/i3lock -n -c 444444;xset dpms 300 300 300"
[13:59] <oklolz> thank you MonkeyDust
[14:01] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, nice call :-0
[14:01] <BluesKaj> ;_)
[14:02] <lucas-arg> how can we list snaps?
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  i do my best ;-)
[14:05] <py_> explosive: you mentioned a lightdm.conf file before and I did not have it. Should I create it myself?
[14:08] <jarlath> ikonia: After a reboot, gateway is still okay but pinging 8.8.8.8 gives "Destination Host Unreachable". I've been given an IP by the router.
[14:08] <jarlath> Can't load webpages
[14:08] <jarlath> The routers webpage (192.1168.0.1) partiall loads but missing page elements
[14:10] <jarlath> ikonia: The dropbox client complains it can't connect and then minutes later connects okay. Rinse/repeat.
[14:11] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, I'm wondering how he can copy and run fixpackages without a terminal tho
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  reading back, guess i missed something
[14:18] <akshay> hi
[14:18] <akshay> i am new to linux
[14:19] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, well, it looks like a handy tool nonetheless
[14:19] <akshay> what?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> akshay, do you have a question?
[14:20] <akshay> yes
[14:20] <BluesKaj> akshay, then ask
[14:21] <akshay> Unable to mount New Volume
[14:21] <jarlath> ikonia: sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf seems to have fixed it.
[14:22] <BluesKaj> akshay, give us the details of what you were doing at the time you got this error
[14:23] <explosive> py_: sorry back
[14:23] <akshay> i just installed ubuntu mate... before ubuntu mate i was using windows 10.
[14:24] <akshay> i cant view my data on other partition
[14:24] <explosive> py_: the lightdm.conf isn't necessary, i dont have it myself
[14:24] <explosive> py_: there's another place it might be taking a value from it though
[14:24] <explosive> py_: in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[14:25] <fluix> ciao a tutti
[14:25] <vlt> !it | fluix
[14:25] <explosive> py_: 50-ubuntu.conf 50-unity-greeter.conf
[14:25] <Sven_vB> is there an easy way to render man pages with custom indentation levels? if I just reduce indentation with a pipe to sed, line wrapping won't adapt
[14:26] <py_> explosive: I do have those files there.
[14:26] <explosive> py_: can you pastebin them please?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> akshay, what's on your "other partition"
[14:26] <explosive> cat file1 file2 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:27] <py_> explosive: http://termbin.com/79b1
[14:27] <squarecircle> ohai, I'm running 16.04 and have two DisplayLink USB graphic cards which worked fine, but are now not. They are listet with lsusb.
[14:27] <brainwash> !info firefox
[14:31] <py_> explosive: the --reinstall ubuntu-desktop command worked from the liveusb this time
[14:32] <Anthaas> I just updated to 16.04 and now my software center won't open.
[14:32] <Anthaas> It just crashes and closes.
[14:32] <explosive> py_: did you chroot ?
[14:33] <py_> explosive: no
[14:33] <explosive> py_: you dont need to use the liveusb if you get a terminal on ctrl+alt+f1
[14:33] <Anthaas> Now its not even showing before closing.
[14:34] <squarecircle> ok, Problem solved, Ubuntu just forgot the drivers
[14:34] <Anthaas> I have the same problem with steam.
[14:35] <py_> explosive: weird, on my system it asks for dependencies, on the liveusb it doesn't
[14:36] <explosive> py_: yeah it is odd
[14:36] <explosive> py_: in tty1 try startx xterm
[14:36] <explosive> then in the xterm type "unity"
[14:36] <py_> explosive: I tried installing katoolin some weeks ago. When i reboot and all it seemed to work. When I'm on the tty this time it shows "Kali Linux/GNU rolling"
[14:37] <explosive> !info katoolin
[14:37] <py_> explosive: it asks me to download it
[14:37] <explosive> py_: aha
[14:38] <explosive> py_: are you able to install any new packages on your system?
[14:38] <explosive> try sudo apt-get install weechat or irssi
[14:38] <py_> explosive: yes
[14:42] <py_> explosive: any ideas?
[14:42] <py_> explosive: it's literally the GUI that it's been missing
[14:44] <explosive> py_: type "cat /var/log/apt/history.log /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:47] <py_> explosive: I have to be from liveusb in order to be able to send you the termbin link though
[14:49] <lordcirth> Anthaas, run the programs from command line to get error messages
[14:49] <jindizang> ?
[14:50] <Ennio> hi all guys does anyone knows if i can install a linux iso (fedora in my case) from an hdd itself? because my bios doesn't have usb boot option and my optical drive decided to do everything except staying alive while reading a livs dvd :D
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> Ennio  this channel is for ubuntu only, general linux questions in ##linux
[14:51] <explosive> py_: oh
[14:52] <Ennio> ops sorry :)
[14:56] <necrophcodr> How easy is it to convert a Btrfs RAID0 to no RAID?
[14:56] <necrophcodr> Given that I have two disks in RAID0, what would be required to stop using RAID0 and split the disks up?
[14:57] <bekks> a third disk.
[14:57] <necrophcodr> It's not something that can be done sort of in-place at all?
[14:57] <bekks> No.
[14:58] <necrophcodr> So what if both disks are at at 50%, and the rest of the disks are unused, could I create a new partition and move data there instead, and merge it later?
[14:58] <necrophcodr> I can't just get a new disk unfortunately
[15:00] <bekks> you'd need to decrease the filesystem size, then decrease the partition size, create a new partition, and copy your data. And you need a backup in case something goes wrong.
[15:01] <necrophcodr> So it can be done?
[15:01] <necrophcodr> I really just need to know if it's doable or not
[15:02] <bekks> necrophcodr: I just answered your question.
[15:02] <necrophcodr> i take that as a yes, i'll get right on it, thanks
[15:03]  * bekks detex the need of a backup ;)
[15:05] <lordcirth> bekks, I thought online/inplace everything was one of the core features of btrfs?
[15:06] <bekks> lordcirth: Without a backup, you dont have data worth to be kept. As a logical consequence, you dont need to do an online resize, you can just reinstall then.
[15:07] <lordcirth> bekks, as an ivory tower logical consequence
[15:08] <bekks> lordcirth: More like a real world tower. If your data has a value for you, you have a backup.
[15:08] <lordcirth> bekks, yes, but some people don't, anyway.  So drawing the conclusion that it must not be important would be wrong.
[15:09] <mmjahanara> lordcirth, why I can't send messages :-/ ?
[15:09] <lordcirth> mmjahanara, I hear you just fine.  What message can't you send?
[15:09] <mmjahanara> :q
[15:10] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I'm running into a SERIOUS bug with chromium where HALF of the websites are incorrectly showing as "INSECURE"
[15:11] <cluelessperson> How do I upgrade chromium to a newer version to avoid this annoying bug?
[15:11] <lordcirth> cluelessperson, how big is this warning?
[15:12] <lordcirth> Are you quite sure it's a bug?  Most sites are insecure, after all
[15:12] <cluelessperson> lordcirth, yes, it's a bug
[15:12] <lordcirth> cluelessperson, how do you know?
[15:13] <lordcirth> cluelessperson, does it block you from the site, or just a little warning?
[15:15] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1641380
[15:15] <cluelessperson> lordcirth, http://askubuntu.com/questions/849450/certain-websites-not-displaying-correctly-in-chromium-err-insecure-response-for/849698
[15:15] <cluelessperson> lordcirth, half the site doesn't fucking load
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> cluelessperson  and are the addresses with http or with https ?
[15:15] <cluelessperson> MonkeyDust, https
[15:15] <cluelessperson> look, it's a known bug
[15:15] <cluelessperson> I asked how to upgrade chromium to a newer revision, maybe like in upstream or something
[15:15] <lordcirth> cluelessperson, I also see that on Nov 17, someone posted that the fix was released for 16.04
[15:16] <lordcirth> "I installed an update today (Nov 17 2016) -- I now have Chromium 53.0.2785.143 Built on Ubuntu , running on Ubuntu 16.04 and nytimes.com, amazon.com et cetera load correctly."
[15:16] <lordcirth> "apt show chromium-browser" shows precisely that version
[15:17] <lordcirth> so just update and restart chromium, should be fine
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> !info chromium-browser
[15:28] <py_> explosive: no luck mate, I'll get back later maybe
[15:29] <vamadir> hello, fail2ban have many filters and i understand for what they need(ssh,ftp,mail). But what is fail2ban-pam-generic?
[15:29] <unperturbed> Hey guys, Can someone explain the function of blacklisting of certain modules(kernel)?
[15:34] <unperturbed> I don't understand, why are so many kernel modules blacklisted when I look up the list of blacklisted modules?
[15:35] <Wirehunter> unperturbed, You don't want to load kernel modules for devices that you don't have.
[15:40] <unperturbed> Wirehunter Why do we have them in the first place if we don't need them?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> unperturbed  because others may need them
[15:42] <unperturbed> But why can't it understand the things I need and load them based on my system's requirement?
[15:43] <ANTI_psychiatry> Visit,please:  antipsychiatry.org
[15:43] <cerion> it does. That'w why it blacklisted some but not all
[15:43] <cerion> unperturbed: ^
[15:44] <unperturbed> MonkeyDust I know its kind of silly set of questions but I had to blacklist one of my friend's module to let the wifi module work, which did not make sense!
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> unperturbed  the iso is the same for everyone, enable or disable the modules you need ... the devs already did that with the most common modules
[15:49] <unperturbed> MonkeyDust Thanks for your replies, really appreciate it.
[15:54] <achintya_dutta> ...
[15:55] <achintya_dutta> Is someone there?
[15:55] <achintya_dutta> Bye
[15:56] <BluesKaj> no instant gratication here :-)
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> i already miss him/her
[15:57] <unperturbed> MonkeyDust Did not assume gender. +1
[16:03] <freakyy> does anyone here have an idea ... i wanna make a private website but really dont have much content. i have a domain though. should i put a small ascii art with some text to directory listings for for example coding, pictures, videos?
[16:08] <for{}> i installed i3, i watch youtube videos, and i wanna tweet. how can i control tweet popups size?
[16:09] <for{}> i wrote for_window [window_role="pop-up"] resize set 320 240
[16:10] <for{}> but everytime its half of my screen
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> for{}  there's also a #i3 channel
[16:12] <for{}> there usually no one answers
[16:28] <golfsailor> I have a windows 10 computer and try to install and run ubuntu. Installation is no problem but I can not boot it any idea ? EFI ....
[16:28] <est31> hi, I want to cross compile to 32 bit
[16:28] <est31> and for that I wanted to insall gcc:i386
[16:28] <est31> but it seems I can't do it
[16:29] <est31> because of a conflict
[16:29] <est31> how can I resolve it in the best way?
[16:30] <est31> it says that it depends on cpp:i386 (>= 4:6.1.1-1ubuntu2)
[16:30] <est31> but that shouldnt be installed
[16:31] <est31> and depends on gcc-6:i386 (>= 6.1.1-9~)
[16:31] <est31> and that shouldn't be installed (according to apt) either
[16:31] <explosive> est31: you dont need to install anything
[16:33] <golfsailor> is it possible to get rid of windows boot manager and put something else that works both with ubuntu and win10
[16:33] <est31> explosive: but when I try to do configure with the 32 bit target and host set, it gives me
[16:33] <est31> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
[16:33] <explosive> est31: try with gcc -march i386
[16:34] <explosive> est31: try with gcc -march=i386
[16:34] <explosive> golfsailor: grub works with both
[16:34] <explosive> est31: oh
[16:35] <explosive> !find stdc++
 just dont show up and when changed with bcdedit don't work anyway always windows running. tried refind too
[16:36] <explosive> est31: you need one of those packages i
[16:36] <explosive> i'd guess, try libx32stdc++6-4.7-dev
[16:37] <est31> whats the difference to libstdc++-6-dev:i386
[16:37] <explosive> or lib64stdc++6
[16:39] <est31> okay installed libx32stdc++-6-dev and libstdc++-6-dev:i386 but still giving me the same error
[16:39] <ioria> est31 on 14.04 i use  gcc-multilib and -m32  flag
[16:39] <ioria> !info gcc-multilib
[16:40] <est31> I do have gcc-multilib
[16:40] <est31> that was the first thing I tried
[16:40] <est31> before even asking here
[16:40] <ioria> est31 so you don't need gcc 32
[16:41] <explosive> golfsailor: which laptop model? some have hard coded bioses to only boot windows but you can work around it
[16:41] <explosive> namely hp and lenovo
[16:42] <est31> ioria: it still doesnt work
[16:42] <BluesKaj> golfsailor, try,  sudo os-prober, then sudo update-grub, but it may not see uefi boot
[16:42] <ioria> est31  the compile command ?
[16:42] <est31> yes
[16:42] <est31> same error
[16:42] <est31> man, I'm so close to just putting in a new hdd into my computer and installing 32 bit ubuntu on it
[16:43] <ioria> est31  :þ
[16:43] <est31> then I have 4gb or whatever but at least I can compile the thing
[16:43]  * est31 wonders whether the 32 bit kernel will be able to speak with the 16 gb ram stick
[16:43] <ioria> est31  can you paste the compile command  ?
[16:44] <est31> ioria: git clone --recursive https://github.com/rust-lang/rust
[16:44] <est31> then ./configure --host=i686-unknown-linux-gnu --target=i686-unknown-linux-gnu
[16:44] <est31> inside the dir
[16:48] <ioria> est31  too big for my slow band...
[16:48] <sponge> Hello
[16:48] <ioria> est31  and you need 32 ... why ?
[16:49] <sponge> someone on ghacks comments wrote this: "Ubuntu users have minor privacy concerns of their own (ships with a key logger)". To what extent is this true?? And if it is, then why?
[16:50] <est31> ioria: I see. its a really big download indeed. no problem, thanks for the help
[16:51] <ioria> est31  sorry, i don't see any 32 requirements in the docs
[16:51] <ioria> est31  try with clang
[16:55] <est31> mhh it might require a re-log in
[16:55] <est31> maybe its not in the LDPATH
[16:55]  * est31 tries that
[16:59] <hdmiwhat> Hi, is anyone here good at sound? I have a USB sound card (it's actually USB HDMI card) and I'm not getting any sound
[16:59] <hdmiwhat> on kubuntu
[16:59] <hdmiwhat> however, I can get sound with the alsa test utility
[16:59] <est31> nope didnt help
[17:04] <multifractal> I have lots of problms with wifi dropping out intermittently. Didn't happen with 14.04 but happens with 16.04.
[17:06] <winston2k> multifractal have you updated to 16.04.1 ? that solved wifi for many users.
[17:12] <multifractal> winston2k I haven't (knowingly) upgraded. How can I tell what version I'm on?
[17:12] <multifractal> is it apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that to upgrade to 16.04.1?
[17:12] <explosive> multifractal: cat /etc/issue
[17:13] <explosive> yes
[17:13] <multifractal> Oh looks like I do have 16.04.1 :(
[17:16] <winston2k> sorry multifractal
[17:17] <winston2k> file bug report with ubuntu
[17:18] <merlin__> hello
[17:19] <Firefoxer> anybody can send me pls a link for ubuntu odroid c2 utility ?
[17:20] <Firefoxer> because i cant find it on odroid wiki..
[17:25] <for{}> hi!
[17:25] <Firefoxer> hello
[17:25] <for{}> i use i3 and my notifications have small font, what should i do?
[17:26] <for{}> the only font problem i have is with my notifications
[17:27] <for{}> i use notify-osd
[17:28] <for{}> ducasse, can you help me?
[17:30] <merlin__> hello
[17:34] <golfsailor> BluesKaj:  /dev/sda8:Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (16.04):Ubuntu:linux
[17:35] <golfsailor> explosive: it's an asus 7 core intel chipset.
[17:36] <explosive> golfsailor: ok
[17:36] <darkj> hello
[17:37] <vlammer> hi all :)
[17:38] <mirak> hi
[17:39] <explosive> golfsailor: try pressing esc when the pc boots and look for any boot options menu
[17:39] <mirak> With the livecd, is there a way to have fullhd resolution with a GTX 1070 ?
[17:39] <golfsailor> explosive: ok
[17:42] <jackhumm> explosive:
[17:42] <explosive> jackhumm: hey
[17:42] <artg02> hey :)
[17:43] <explosive> hey artg02
[17:43] <artg02> I need the program 20 sim for the next couple of weeks, but had no intention to make my laptop dualboot with windows since windows is only supported
[17:43] <artg02> does anyone here has some experience with the program and knows an alternative
[17:43] <artg02> wine is a last resort for me
[17:43] <jackhumm> explosive: how to get back
[17:44] <Gaming4JC> hi guys, does anyone know the firefox setting to refresh favicons?
[17:44] <explosive> jackhumm: did you run any cp commands?
[17:44] <jackhumm> explosive: any way i can turn my existing windows install to legacy
[17:45] <jackhumm> explosive: no
[17:45] <explosive> jackhumm: i pasted a link to you earlier did you see it?
[17:45] <jackhumm> explosive: no
[17:45] <jackhumm> explosive: can you guide me again ,
[17:45] <jackhumm> explosive: sorry for the touble
[17:47] <explosive> jackhumm: https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=580
[17:47] <explosive> jackhumm: type sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi.backup /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
[17:48] <explosive> and sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[17:48] <jackhumm> explosive: done that
[17:48] <jackhumm> explosive: after that
[17:49] <jackhumm> explosive: this article looks deadly , any article from more user friendly people
[17:50] <yao_ziyuan> i just overwrote a newer file with an older file. the file system is FAT32. is it possible to recover?
[17:50] <explosive> jackhumm: type sudo sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi.backup/bootmgfw.efi/' /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[17:51] <explosive> jackhumm: then sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc
[17:51] <explosive> yao_ziyuan: maybe, try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[17:52] <yao_ziyuan> explosive: ok
[17:52] <blackwind_123> is the PIP LIST command fetches list form py2 or py3...?? how to confirm also i want to install a package in py3 using pip..? currently pip is insatlling it to py2 which is not desired
[17:55] <Fa1th> Hello, have a problem with ubuntu vps
[17:57] <jmadero> why isn't this auto mounting: //192.168.1.66/share  /media/MEGAMAN  cifs  auto,iocharset=utf8,credentials=/data/credentials,user,gid=1000  0 0
[17:57] <willies952002> did anyone here at all loose multi-monitor support when upgrading to 16.04 LTS?
[17:58] <Fa1th> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu4) ...
[17:58] <Fa1th> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:58] <Fa1th>  mysql-server-5.7
[17:58] <Fa1th> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:58] <Fa1th> I'am trying to apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <jmadero> Fa1th: pastebin and please start with the question
[17:58] <artg02> willies952002:  I have used multi-monitor extensively with both 16.04 and 16.10 and both works great for me (2 monitors)
[17:59] <willies952002> artg02, do you have AMD or NVIDIA?
[17:59] <jmadero> multi monitor works fine for me as well with an intel card
[18:00] <jmadero> but I didn't upgrade, I always fresh install, maybe upgrade broke something
[18:00] <artg02> willies952002: igpu for me
[18:00] <willies952002> AMD Radeon R7 260X
[18:00] <willies952002> wait... I'm guessing that's a command?
[18:00] <artg02> what jmadero said, totally agree a fresh install is always the "better" option
[18:00] <willies952002> I'm lucky if my terminal even opens right now...
[18:00] <jmadero> upgrade should be disabled, it's disfunctional and teaches bad habits (like not splitting home from root)
[18:01] <artg02> willies952002: do u have a igpu at all?
[18:02] <willies952002> I'm confused here... igpu?
[18:02] <artg02> willies952002: sorry, integrated graphic card
[18:02] <jmadero> intel card
[18:02] <willies952002> no
[18:02] <Firefoxer> how i can install the directx apk for my "Odroid C2".. ? is that avible for that toy ?
[18:02] <willies952002> AMD proc w/ AMD GPU
[18:02] <artg02> willies952002:  its the one that comes within the chip
[18:02] <willies952002> let me check...
[18:02] <for{}> how do i uninstall notify-osd?
[18:03] <for{}> i want notifications but not notify-osd
[18:03] <jmadero> sudo apt-get remove notify-osd?
[18:03] <artg02> you could start with that one and troubleshoot with it and then move on, also when the problem is not present then u know it the graphic card, it can be something else though
[18:03] <for{}> ubuntu-desktop will be removed too
[18:03] <jmadero> then you can't uninstall it
[18:03] <for{}> wow
[18:03] <jmadero> ubuntu has a ton of inter-dependencies
[18:04] <willies952002> artg02, I have a feeling that the FX-8150 doesn't have an igpu
[18:04] <jmadero> if you don't like bloated distros - there are plenty of choices out there that won't have those inter-dependencies
[18:04] <for{}> how can i replace it with another one?
[18:04] <for{}> how can i replace it with another daemon?
[18:04] <milp> hi there, does anyone have an idea how i can replicate the SAME x screen on multiple outputs of multiple graphics cards? (all nvidia)
[18:06] <artg02> willies952002: it indeed does not have an igpu, http://cpuboss.com/cpu/AMD-FX-8150
[18:06] <artg02> not a big problem though
[18:06] <artg02> how full is ur drive?
[18:06] <willies952002> and yes, I have installed the latest drivers from amd
[18:07] <mirak> did anyone ever managed to persist a liveusb ?
[18:07] <mirak> I have a casper-rw but it doesn't work
[18:08] <artg02> willies952002: can u start ur PC in terminal mode first
[18:08] <for{}> what will it happen if i uninstall ubuntu desktop?
[18:08] <willies952002> artg02, terminal mode..?
[18:10] <moon1> Hi.  I am running Ubuntu 14.04.5, and I am intermittently seeing unexpected mouse clicks and pastes.  Rebooting makes this go away but does not prevent recurrence.  Likewise, running [ sudo rmmod -f joydev ] sometimes corrects it, but always temporarily.  Any ideas?
[18:10] <artg02> willies952002:  restart ur PC and hit the shift key until u see the boot screen, then select "advanced options", there select the latest kernel in safe mode
[18:10] <willies952002> okay, brb
[18:10] <artg02> willies952002:  tell me if that succeeds
[18:11] <willies952002> brb, switching IRC to my laptop
[18:11] <moon1> BTW I am running compiz
[18:11] <dem0> is apt not supposed to load user added repos before you run apt update, because i have to run apt update each time i have booted
[18:12] <willies952002> okay, I'm back
[18:14] <willies952002> I'm not seeing a safe mode option...
[18:14] <artg02> willies952002: what options do u see?
[18:14] <willies952002> regular, upstart, and recovery
[18:15] <artg02> willies952002: sorry my bad, I meant recovery
[18:15] <willies952002> okay, I'm guessing drop to root shell?
[18:15] <artg02> indeed that one
[18:16] <artg02> first things first, lets update the whole machine "sudo apt update" and ""sudo apt upgrade"
[18:16] <artg02> make sure if that succeeds
[18:16] <artg02> report back if anything fails
[18:17] <willies952002> it failed to fetch all sources
[18:18] <willies952002> then again... it would help if networking was enabled...
[18:18] <willies952002> erm... still failed
[18:19] <willies952002> artg02:
[18:19] <artg02> yeah, the networking is essential haha
[18:19] <artg02> so what does it say?
[18:19] <artg02> what is the fail message
[18:20] <willies952002> Failed to fetch <url> Temporary failure resolving '<url>'
[18:20] <willies952002> and "Could not resolve host: <url>"
[18:20] <zmoazeni> Hi folks. I'm dualbooting ubuntu on a Macbook Pro (I know. Pain). I've installed the nvidia drivers and I've noticed an audible clicking noise coming from the laptop/fan area when ubuntu is logged out or locked
[18:20] <zmoazeni> Has anyone heard of this problem?
[18:20] <artg02> willies952002:  "ping 8.8.8.8" does that succeed? if yes, try "ping google.com", does that succeed?
[18:21] <moon1> Hi.  New to #ubuntu channel, so pleaase bear with me on any unintended mistakes.  I have a question about unexpected mouse clicks when running under Compiz.
[18:21] <moon1> To restate my issue:
[18:21] <moon1> Hi.  I am running Ubuntu 14.04.5, and I am intermittently seeing unexpected mouse clicks and pastes.  Rebooting makes this go away but does not prevent recurrence.  Likewise, running [ sudo rmmod -f joydev ] sometimes corrects it, but always temporarily.  Any ideas?
[18:21] <willies952002> IP: yes URL: no
[18:22] <artg02> "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" and post that in a pastebin and send the link here
[18:24] <astronut> I recently upgraded from an older version (don't remember - it was kodibuntu, set it up ages ago and forgot it) to xenial (first upgrade, then entirely fresh install). GL seems broken. This is an old atom box with nvidia (legacy) graphics. Any pointers?
[18:24] <artg02> willies952002: ^
[18:24] <willies952002> ?
[18:24] <mirak> liveusb not persisted is a uefi bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/577833/how-do-i-create-a-live-usb-installer-for-uefi-efi-systems-that-reads-and-saves-p
[18:25] <pconstantin> ?
[18:25] <artg02> willies952002:  check the message from me before "^"
[18:25] <willies952002> already on it
[18:26] <willies952002> http://hastebin.com/inobepexur.txt
[18:27] <willies952002> artg02: ^
[18:29] <artg02> willies952002: go back and type "ifconfig -a"
[18:29] <artg02> what are the names of the connections?
[18:30] <eelstrebor> is it better to do a fresh install or try to convert from legacy bios to uefi?
[18:30] <artg02> eelstrebor: fresh install
[18:30] <artg02> definitely with these kind of things
[18:32] <willies952002> artg02: just the names?
[18:33] <astronut> installing the non-legacy nvidia drivers pulled in stuff that seems to have fixed it (or they worked where they dind't used to)
[18:33] <artg02> willies952002: yup, just the names
[18:33] <willies952002> enp9s0, lo, enp5s5f0, enp5s5f1
[18:34] <Guest44096> Hi, I can'T get the scanner of my samsung scx-4200 working. Any hint?
[18:34] <artg02> willies952002: which names give "ifconfig"?
[18:34] <willies952002> enp9s0 and lo
[18:35] <artg02> go to /etc/network/interfaces again and paste the following at the end
[18:35] <artg02> auto enp9s0
[18:36] <artg02> iface enp9s0 inet dhc
[18:36] <artg02> both lines
[18:36] <willies952002> save an restart networking I presume?
[18:36] <ioria> artg02,  dhcp, maybe
[18:37] <willies952002> btw... I have a static ip assigned to the machine in question, would that make a diff in that file?
[18:37] <artg02> willies952002:  after that do the following "sudo service network-manager restart"
[18:37] <artg02> ioria: oops sorry indeed , it must be dhcp
[18:37] <artg02> willies952002:  make sure its dhcp
[18:37] <willies952002> okay
[18:37] <artg02> then save and then restart with "sudo service network-manager restart"
[18:37] <ioria> artg02,  but if you use /etc/net/interfaces you don't need NM
[18:38] <willies952002> btw... network-manager has been failing to start for the last 3 tries
[18:38] <ioria> willies952002, can you ping something ?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> willies952002, sudo dhclient
[18:38] <artg02> ioria: its an desktop PC, that file is empty coz NM is managing it, we are in CLI now so we need networking to update the PC, by issuiing that command NM will release that interface
[18:38] <willies952002> I can ping IPs, just not addresses
[18:39] <ioria> willies952002, so the interfaces is up...
[18:39] <willies952002> "RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[18:39] <ioria> willies952002,  but you can't resolve names ?
[18:39] <willies952002> correct
[18:39] <BluesKaj> willies952002, now try your browser
[18:40] <willies952002> I'm in terminal mode
[18:40] <artg02> lets try a static address
[18:40] <ioria> willies952002, sudo sh -c "echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf"
[18:40] <ioria> willies952002, then and try again    ping www.google.com
[18:40] <willies952002> okay, working
[18:41] <ioria> willies952002, it's only temporary
[18:41] <willies952002> btw Blue, I'm on my laptop
[18:41] <willies952002> the issue is with my desktop
[18:41] <ioria> willies952002, sudo apt update
[18:41] <willies952002> (and yes, I saw that CTCP)
[18:41] <artg02> willies952002:  "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade"
[18:41] <BluesKaj> yup see if you can resolve your repos
[18:41] <willies952002> all up to date
[18:42] <ioria> willies952002, apt full-upgrade
[18:42] <willies952002> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:42] <ioria> willies952002,  you're ok, then
[18:42] <BluesKaj> willies952002, static IP?
[18:42] <willies952002> it just assigned by my router on the local
[18:43] <artg02> willies952002: "df" how full is ur disk?
[18:43] <willies952002> 89% (230G / 272G)
[18:43] <ioria> willies952002,  you have other issue, i guess
[18:44] <willies952002> (and yes, it's a partitioned drive0
[18:44] <artg02> ioria: the GPU driver is not working correctly, even the terminal was not starting normal
[18:44] <ioria> artg02, i see
[18:45] <artg02> ioria: therefore, restarted to recovery mode and updated all packages
[18:45] <ioria> artg02, yes
[18:45] <artg02> willies952002: what card did u have again?
[18:45] <ioria> radeon i bet
[18:45] <willies952002> AMD Radeon R7-260X
[18:46] <artg02> did u use there drivers?
[18:46] <ioria> willies952002,  desktop ? unity ?
[18:46] <willies952002> Cinnamon w/ Ciaro Dock
[18:46] <willies952002> and yes, AMDGPU-Pro
[18:46] <willies952002> I was using fglrx before the upgrade
[18:46] <ioria> willies952002,  what ubuntu are you on ?
[18:47] <willies952002> 16.04 LTS after upgrade
[18:47] <ioria> willies952002,  fglrx has been removed ?
[18:47] <willies952002> I believe so, how would I check again?
[18:48] <ioria> willies952002,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx*
[18:48] <willies952002> 0 results
[18:48] <ioria> willies952002,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[18:49] <willies952002> which portion of that do you need, or the entire thing?
[18:49] <ioria> willies952002,  paste just the line Kernel driver in use:
[18:49] <willies952002> Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu
[18:50] <ioria> willies952002,  uname -r is 4.4.0.47 i guess
[18:50] <willies952002> yes
[18:50] <willies952002> well... -generic
[18:50] <ioria> yes
[18:50] <ioria> willies952002,  tried nomodeset ?
[18:50] <willies952002> nomodeset.?
[18:51] <ioria> !nomodeset | willies952002
[18:51] <ioria> willies952002,  but what happend when you boot normally ? can you login graphically ?
[18:51] <ioria> *happens
[18:51] <willies952002> yes
[18:51] <willies952002> just no multi-monitor like in 15.10
[18:52] <stereo__> hi guys, i cant start ubuntu-sdk because of some lxd server error... can any help me?
[18:52] <ioria> willies952002,  oh...
[18:53] <willies952002> ioria: also... Unity, GNONE, and Cinnamon all crash when loading, Connamon gets the farthest and goes into fallback
[18:53] <willies952002> *Cinnamon
[18:53] <ioria> willies952002,  for unity, you can try the Guest Account
[18:53] <sage78> hello. im experiencing very poor OpenGL performance and stutter with CPU Intel N3050 and integrated graphics. any help is appreciated !
[18:54] <willies952002> ioria: it doesn't even load... just right back to login screen
[18:54] <willies952002> also... should I remove "radeon.dpm=1" from the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT entry in /etc/default/grub ..?
[18:54] <tonygaga> my 16.04 machine just froze 2nd time in 1 hour while in idle. I had to hardreset the PC. Is there a logfile which could give me a clue what it was?
[18:55] <ioria> willies952002,  why did you set that ?
[18:55] <willies952002> apparently that was recommended when removing fglrx
[18:55] <ioria> willies952002,  so you can't login in Unity ?
[18:56] <willies952002> I'm gonna try now
[18:56] <willies952002> and apparently that was for the Radeon Dynamic Power Management
[18:56] <tonygaga> apport is empty
[18:56] <tonygaga> any other log in /var/log?
[18:57] <willies952002> I would say check your driver logs if they're available
[18:57] <willies952002> not sure if they even exist, but iirc your driver is what deals with GL
[18:58] <willies952002> ioria: right back to login
[18:58] <ioria> willies952002,  ls -al ~/Xauthority
[18:58] <ioria> willies952002,  ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[18:59] <sage78> im pretty sure i have the correct driver installed, but my OpenGL performance is so poor! arent intel graphics drivers working out of the box ? i even tried the intel update tool
[18:59] <willies952002> -rw------- 1 willies952002 willies952002 60 Nov 20 13:57 /home/willies952002/.Xauthority
[18:59] <ioria> willies952002,  still in Recovery ?
[18:59] <willies952002> not atm
[18:59] <willies952002> in tty1
[19:00] <ioria> willies952002,  good  sudo service lightdm restart
[19:00] <willies952002> restarted
[19:00] <willies952002> and right back to login
[19:00] <ioria> willies952002,  have you selected the 'unity' session ?
[19:01] <willies952002> yes
[19:01] <willies952002> okay.. I'm somewhat able to get into GNOME now
[19:01] <ioria> willies952002,  that's good
[19:02] <willies952002> welp... the bars went poof
[19:02] <willies952002> is there a command to force logout from terminal?
[19:02] <bekks> willies952002: "exit"
[19:02] <willies952002> exit just closes the window, I mean back to the login screen
[19:03] <ioria> willies952002,  switch again to the console
[19:03] <kostkon> willies952002, tty7
[19:03] <bekks> willies952002: No, there isnt.
[19:03] <willies952002> okay, back in tty1
[19:03] <ioria> willies952002,  stop lightdm
[19:03] <bekks> ioria: "stop" will NOT return to the login screen.
[19:04] <ioria> willies952002,  and we try with nomodeset
[19:04] <akik> willies952002: you can kill your own processes wih "kill -9 -1" but it's something like a "to be used as a final solution"
[19:04] <bekks> willies952002: you could use "sudo restart lightdm".
[19:04] <willies952002> okay, lightdm has been stoped
[19:04] <willies952002> *stopped
[19:04] <ioria> willies952002,  sudo reboot ... you know how to set nomodeset ?
[19:05] <willies952002> not exactly...
[19:05] <willies952002> okay, I'm at grub
[19:06] <willies952002> which always seems to come up regardless of me hitting any buttons...
[19:06] <ioria> willies952002,  press 'e' find the Kernel line and add at then end nomodeset
[19:06] <ioria> willies952002,  dual boot ?
[19:06] <willies952002> yeah
[19:06] <Smn_> guys I'm looking for a music player that supports opus and embedded lyrics, I don't care about things like podcasts
[19:06] <willies952002> but Win10 died a while back
[19:06] <willies952002> can't boot... just mount RO
[19:07] <for{}> kinda off topic, but i3 rulz
[19:07] <willies952002> btw... I'm guessing that's the line that starts with "linux /boot/vmlinuz-<version> ..."?
[19:08] <ioria> willies952002,  yes, but you removed something else ...
[19:08] <willies952002> ioria: such as?
[19:08] <ioria> willies952002,  such '--' at end
[19:09] <willies952002> that wasn't there...
[19:10] <yell0w_v_> Hey - not sure if this is the right place to ask. I
[19:10] <ioria> willies952002,  usually it works, just reboot in some way
[19:10] <willies952002> just "linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-47-generic root=UUID=<uuid> ro noprompt repsistent quiet splash $vt_handoff"
[19:10] <yell0w_v_> *my VPS keeps getting DDOSED, I've been blocking them with iptables - but every few weeks it starts up again
[19:10] <ioria> willies952002,  you can set it in /etc/default/grub
[19:10] <willies952002> I'm guessing add it to the same place where radeon.dpm=1 was?
[19:11] <ioria> willies952002,  yes...
[19:11] <Anthaas> Hi guys
[19:11] <Anthaas> I don't have an eth1 interface?
[19:11] <willies952002> the names changed iirc
[19:11] <yell0w_v_> is there not some sort of rule that automatically drops anything that creates 10+ connections ?
[19:11] <Anthaas> (Im trying to run `vagrant up` and its failing)
[19:12] <willies952002> yell0w_v_, DDoS attacks are never from one single source
[19:12] <yell0w_v_> willies952002: What'd you mean? I've just had to go through and block 20 IPs manually. each had 100-300 connections each
[19:13] <willies952002> nvm..
[19:13] <willies952002> btw ioria, that didn't change anything..
[19:13] <ioria> willies952002,  have you run sudo update-grub
[19:13] <willies952002> I added it manually right before boot
[19:14] <ioria> willies952002,  oh, ok ... so
[19:14] <ioria> ?
[19:14] <ioria> willies952002,  you still can't login in the Guest Account ?
[19:15] <willies952002> nope
[19:16] <ioria> willies952002,   cat ~/.xsession-errors
[19:16] <willies952002> all I'm getting is "/dev/sda3: clean, <number>/<number> files, <number>/<number> blocks" on a black screen then back to login
[19:17] <ioria> willies952002,   anything in   cat ~/.xsession-errors
[19:18] <willies952002> it was full of things..
[19:18] <willies952002> gonna see if I can transfer the file over scp to my laptop
[19:18] <ioria> willies952002,   i'd suggest you to install anothe de, but you diask is almost fulll
[19:19] <ioria> *disk
[19:19] <willies952002> at this point I'm actually thinking of going a full backup and reinstalling
[19:20] <kiruhan2> heyheyhey
[19:20] <ioria> willies952002,   cat ~/.xsession-errors |nc termbin.com 9999
[19:20] <willies952002> could there be any sensitive information in that error log that I should be worried about posting?
[19:20] <ioria> willies952002,   i don't think so
[19:21] <willies952002> ioria: http://termbin.com/9ili
[19:22] <ioria> willies952002,   wow
[19:22] <willies952002> ?
[19:22] <willies952002> btw... that's all from logging into Cinnamon
[19:23] <ioria> willies952002,   you can try this, create a new user and login directly on unity : adduser   robotboy
[19:25] <willies952002> same issue
[19:25] <ioria> willies952002,   for the unity session ?
[19:25] <willies952002> ioria: http://termbin.com/zu1h
[19:25] <willies952002> yeah
[19:27] <ioria> willies952002,   ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[19:27] <ioria> willies952002,   ls -al ~/.ICEauthority
[19:28] <willies952002> for which user?
[19:28] <ioria> willies952002,   robotboy
[19:28] <willies952002> no such file
[19:29] <ioria> willies952002,   ls -al   /home/<yourmainuser>/.ICEauthority
[19:30] <willies952002> -rw------- 1 willies952002 willies952002 48518 Nov 20 14:17 /home/willies952002/.ICEauthority
[19:32] <vidas> can somebody help me please with setting up a vpn? i just need it for the encryption
[19:33] <ioria> willies952002,   ls /etx/X11/xorg.conf   ?
[19:34] <willies952002> no such file or directory
[19:34] <brickbuilder> vidas, what client are you using?
[19:34] <vidas> linux mint 18
[19:34] <vidas> oh, sorry, i'm not using any client. just trying to protect myself from wifi sniffing
[19:34] <newuser1> I am on 16.04 with playonlinux and MSOffice 10. ClamTk has found 108 threats mostly related to wine, playonlinux and libreoffice. What should I do next to remove them safely without breaking my system
[19:35] <ioria> willies952002,    sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[19:35] <vidas> brickbuilder: im not using a client and just want to protect myself from wifi sniffing
[19:35] <willies952002> already intsalled
[19:35] <willies952002> *installed
[19:36] <brickbuilder> vidas: Ah, ok. Have you already picked out a VPN provider?
[19:37] <ioria> willies952002,    can you boot another kernel from grub ?
[19:37] <willies952002> I have one other option, want me to try it?
[19:37] <vidas> brickbuilder: no. is there a way i could use a simple program so that i just have the encryption and don't connect to other severs? i just want to encrypt my connection, don't care for anything else
[19:38] <ioria> willies952002,    wait... ls -dl /tmp
[19:38] <willies952002> bit too late...
[19:38] <ioria> ok
[19:39] <willies952002> the only other kernel I have is 4.4.0-42
[19:39] <willies952002> *4.2.0-42
[19:39] <ioria> the wily one
[19:39] <willies952002> yeah
[19:39] <brickbuilder> vidas: In order for your VPN to work, you need to connect to a VPN provider server. After that, their server will relay all of your traffic, masking your IP address. If you're just looking for a more secure way to connect to the internet, but don't care about hiding your IP, an https connection might be your best option.
[19:39] <ioria> let's see
[19:40] <willies952002> so... boot into that?
[19:40] <lordcirth> vidas, install HTTPS Everywhere plugin, that's a good start
[19:40] <vidas> brickbuilder: so i can have enerything encrypted? even the sites that don't offer https?
[19:40] <ioria> willies952002,    yup
[19:41] <lordcirth> vidas, if the site doesn't offer HTTPS, then it can't be encrypted all the way, but a VPN can encrypt the part that goes over wifi
[19:41] <willies952002> now to wait for the ramdisk.. :P
[19:41] <ioria> willies952002,    are you sure youe hhd is ok ?
[19:42] <ioria> *r
[19:42] <brickbuilder> vidas: HTTPS everywhere will only encrypt your web browser's connections to sites that offer https
[19:42] <willies952002> I'm sure
[19:42] <vidas> lordcirth: so my best bet is to use a vpn. gotcha. whats a free one without bandwith restrictions and the like?
[19:42] <brickbuilder> vidas: are you worried about all of your applications, or just your browser?
[19:42] <vidas> all
[19:43] <lordcirth> vidas, I don't think we can recommend one here. Also, you can do a VPN to a home server, if you like.
[19:43] <willies952002> I got 3% farther than last time w/ Unity
[19:43] <BluesKaj> vidas, a free one without bandwith restrictions is almost impossible to find
[19:43] <lordcirth> So when you are travelling, it's as secure as home, and you can access your home network
[19:43] <ioria> willies952002,    meaning ?
[19:43] <willies952002> one program popped up, then back to login
[19:44] <ioria> willies952002,    and with robotboy user ?
[19:44] <willies952002> no progress
[19:44] <vidas> can i make the vpn program connect to a home network and then get a proxy?
[19:45] <ioria> willies952002,    sudo apt-get autoremove give nothing '
[19:45] <ioria> *s
[19:45] <Localtoast[m]> vidas, i'd recommend something like TorGuard or Private Internet Access
[19:45] <brickbuilder> vidas: yes. Check your home internet router. Most of the newer ones will allow you to setup a VPN server on the router.
[19:47] <vidas> thank you all! you have been a great help :)
[19:47] <brickbuilder> vidas: then, when you're away, all you have to do is set your client to login to your home router, and it will tunnel all of your traffic to your home IP.
[19:47] <brickbuilder> vidas: No problem!
[19:47] <vidas> gotcha! :)
[19:49] <Guddu> I wish to remote control a Ubuntu Desktop. Team viewer software is not working. It gives an error "A connection cannot be established. Reason unknown" . . . What could be wrong?
[19:49] <willies952002> laptop died..
[19:49] <ioria> willies952002,    how ?
[19:51] <lordcirth> Guddu, well, is teamviewer running properly on the target?
[19:53] <willies952002> ioria, battery
[19:54] <ioria> willies952002,    sudo apt-get autoremove gives nothing  ?
[19:57] <willies952002> I'm back, had to get something to eat...
[19:58] <willies952002> ioria: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:59] <ioria> willies952002,   rm -rif  ~/.cache/compizconfig-1  (in robotboy user) and try one last time to login unity
[19:59] <jarlath> I've just noticed that you can create a snap package directly on the launchpad page of a project. Very cool - has anyone tried it?
[19:59] <jarlath> I'm curious which store channel to release to.
[20:00] <willies952002> brb, I'll report back once I've tested
[20:00] <ioria> ok
[20:02] <willies952002> I'm back
[20:02] <willies952002> nothing new
[20:03] <ioria> willies952002,   can paste again df -H ?
[20:04] <willies952002> ioria: http://termbin.com/wj11
[20:04] <ioria> willies952002,   not working
[20:05] <willies952002> http://termbin.com/wjll
[20:05] <willies952002> l looks like 1 in term :P
[20:06] <ioria> willies952002,   yeah... weird
[20:06] <ioria> willies952002,   logs, i suppose
[20:07] <willies952002> for..?
[20:07] <ioria> willies952002,   the mess
[20:08] <ioria> willies952002,   sudo apt-get install fluxbox and try to login
[20:09] <ioria> willies952002,  in fluxbox session, i mean
[20:09] <willies952002> okay
[20:10] <willies952002> okay, I'm in with my main user
[20:10] <Hxxx> if i do something like rsync -r -t -v --progress -s   , what would be the main source and main destination paths?
[20:10] <ioria> willies952002,  ok, with right click you can find applications
[20:11] <willies952002> yeah
[20:11] <ioria> willies952002,  at leat you have a small gui to work with
[20:11] <ioria> *s
[20:12] <willies952002> I guess it will have to do for now :(
[20:12] <Hxxx> nvm
[20:13] <ioria> willies952002,  you could also install lubuntu-desktop but you  are at 90%
[20:13] <betaubuntu> hey does anyone know how can I restrict access to page based on referrer?
[20:13] <betaubuntu> like /myaccount.php accesible only after login
[20:13] <willies952002> what language are you using?
[20:13] <willies952002> ah
[20:14] <betaubuntu> hmm php
[20:14] <willies952002> I would say check in the $_SERVER for the referrer and redirect if it doesn't match what you want
[20:14] <Ben64> that's easy to cheat, and you should be asking in ##php
[20:14] <betaubuntu> yeah i know but i just want to see
[20:14] <betaubuntu> thx for the channel
[20:15] <betaubuntu> i must be invited tho lol. do you maybe know about any solutions?
[20:15] <ralph22> If this was posted then sorry for reposting but is ubuntu mate made specialy for netbooks and notebooks and supports more hardware drivers then other buntus or not?
[20:15] <betaubuntu> thx willies952002
[20:16] <betaubuntu> true
[20:16] <lordcirth> ralph22, Ubuntu Mate just has a different desktop, all flavors have pretty much the same drivers
[20:17] <BatmanCurve> i3 is the best imho
[20:18] <lordcirth> dwm or Openbox, personally
[20:18] <BatmanCurve> why not i3?
[20:18] <lordcirth> Because I didn't have any keyboard shortcuts left after installing i3 :P
[20:18] <BatmanCurve> ok
[20:19] <lordcirth> Every time I went to make a shortcut, i3 already had it lol
[20:19] <BatmanCurve> i use only a few
[20:20] <BatmanCurve> its hard to strive for minimalism
[20:20] <ralph22> So the desktop is different but the drivers the same? Im loking for a linux distro which would support my built in wifi card so one with a very large number of drivers is there one like that?
[20:20] <BatmanCurve> its hard to try to automate as much as you can
[20:21] <lordcirth> ralph22, does normal Ubuntu not work?
[20:21] <BatmanCurve> but in the end... its awesome!
[20:22] <ralph22> Well everything but the wifi works though there are some crashes but i need the wifi.
[20:23] <betaubuntu> anyway willies, im not good in  dont u know  how to code that
[20:23] <betaubuntu> ?
[20:23] <betaubuntu> im talking about that referrer
[20:23] <betaubuntu> im not good in php*
[20:23] <ioria> ralph22, usb adapter ?
[20:23] <lordcirth> ralph22, ok, so what is your wifi card?  We may be able to help you with it.
[20:26] <DeaDSouL> hi... does anyone live in usa?
[20:28] <lordcirth> DeaDSouL, why is that relevant?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> DeaDSouL  a lot of people live in america, they are called 'americans'
[20:29] <DeaDSouL> lordcirth, MonkeyDust: I need someone to help me creating a us appleid... I can't install amaonz alexa unless my store is usa... and I've trying to create one since yesterday... with no luck
[20:30] <cskama> hey! was dspam removed from xenial?
[20:30] <lordcirth> DeaDSouL, I don't think that is on topic here - but you could try Tor or a VPN to get a US IP.
[20:30] <cskama> i'm trying to set it up like this but can't find the package... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix/Dspam
[20:30] <DeaDSouL> lordcirth: i did... no luck
[20:31] <lordcirth> !info dovecot-antispam | cskama
[20:31] <DeaDSouL> i would really appreciate it if anyone could give me a hand with this
[20:31] <lordcirth> DeaDSouL, I don't see how this is an Ubuntu support question.
[20:32] <lordcirth> cskama, perhaps this is the package?  It says it supports dspam
[20:32] <DeaDSouL> lordcirth: it's not... i just thought you might help
[20:32] <cskama> dunno the doc says i should install the dspam package... maybe everything i need is in dovecot-antispam now?
[20:33] <koroso> bonjour a tous
[20:33] <koroso> je suis complétement nouveau ;)
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[20:33] <koroso> hello all
[20:33] <koroso> i'm a newbie ;)
[20:34] <ralph22> The windows driver is for Intel N135 wifi module that should be it.
[20:34] <koroso> what can we do in this chan?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> koroso  ask technical ubuntu questions
[20:35] <koroso> ok thank u
[20:36] <koroso> how can i parted my disk to install an other os?
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> koroso  gparted is one way
[20:37] <koroso> yes i try it
[20:37] <koroso> but i do some mistake i suppose
[20:38] <koroso> i install it on usbboot
[20:38] <koroso> with unetbootin
[20:38] <koroso> but when i try to reboot my pc it doesnt work
[20:38] <koroso> :s
[20:39] <koroso> kubuntu doesnt started
[20:40] <ioria> koroso, what are you using right now ?
[20:41] <koroso> kubuntu
[20:41] <koroso> but i have to re-install
[20:41] <koroso> it
[20:41] <ioria> koroso, it is working ?
[20:41] <koroso> yes
[20:42] <ioria> koroso,  and what is the problem  ?
[20:42] <koroso> i try to parted my disks to install an other os
[20:42] <ioria> koroso,  which is ?
[20:42] <koroso> with gparted
[20:42] <ioria> koroso,  which is ?
[20:43] <koroso> windows starter on netbook
[20:43] <ioria> koroso,  don't do that
[20:43] <koroso> ;)
[20:44] <koroso> i like kubuntu but  my pc freeze when i open multitask
[20:45] <ioria> koroso,  you installed kubuntu on a netbook ? what's your cpu ?
[20:46] <ioria> koroso,  and what's your ram ? 2G i guess ?
[20:46] <Guddu> Could someone tell me the most easy way to connect to a remote Ubuntu server? Teamviewer is not working. :-(
[20:47] <ioria> Guddu, ssh
[20:47] <Eddinn> ssh :)
[20:47] <kostkon> ioria, more like 1GB
[20:47] <adriano_> Guddu ssh or vnc maybe
[20:47] <Guddu> ioria, What IP will i SSH to though?
[20:47] <ioria> koroso,  lubuntu, please
[20:48] <ioria> Guddu, you install openssh-server on the server and connect with its ip from the client
[20:48] <ioria> Guddu, but it is text based ... you need a gui ?
[20:48] <Guddu> ioria, Eddinn adriano_ I don't really need a GUI. Commmand line access will be great.
[20:49] <ioria> Guddu, go with openssh
[20:49] <Guddu> I disabled the firewall thinking that might have a role to play in Teamviewer not working but that did not help.
[20:49] <adriano_> Guddu so openssh is the easiest
[20:49] <ioria> Guddu, disable ufw, or create a rule
[20:49] <Guddu> ioria, Thanks I will install OpenSSH now. I was just wondering how to get the IP to ssh to? Where can i get it from?
[20:49] <koroso> sorry CPU dualcore 1,67GHz and Ram 1 GO
[20:49] <ioria> koroso,  lubuntu, please
[20:50] <koroso> lubuntu doesnt work
[20:50] <ioria> koroso,  how come ?
[20:50] <tgref> oi
[20:50] <koroso> i download iso  on the site
[20:50] <koroso> i created a usb boot
[20:50] <ioria> Guddu, ip a , or ifconfig on the server
[20:51] <ioria> Guddu, set it static, it's better
[20:51] <koroso> but it doesnt work
[20:51] <Guddu> ioria, The person I am working with does not have Linux knowledge. I can get him to install using sudo apt install openssh-server somehow. Is there more to that?
[20:51] <koroso> i do the same with kubuntu its ok
[20:52] <adriano_> Guddu No i think
[20:52] <Guddu> The remote computer is in Brazil and I am in Singapore  right now...
[20:52] <Guddu> Thanks adriano_
[20:52] <adriano_> Guddu when you know that openssh-server is installed you are ready to connect
[20:53] <ioria> Guddu,  does he have a public ip ?
[20:53] <Guddu> ioria, How could i check that?
[20:53] <ioria> Guddu, ask him
[20:53] <adriano_> Guddu but you need to connect over the internet, so you have to know public ip like ioria says and probably you need port forwarding
[20:54] <koroso> if i can make an advise you must take time to config your sshd when you install openssh
[20:54] <Guddu> ioria, Unfortunately the person at the remote end cannot provide that level of info. Not tech savvy.
[20:54] <Guddu> I mean...Cannot even get him to edit the sshd_config
[20:54] <adriano_> Guddu opening the ssh port on the router so you can connect from outside
[20:55] <ioria> koroso,  please , check the lubuntu iso you downloaded and use rufus to re-do the stick
[20:55] <adriano_> Guddu if he doesn't know how to do it, i think you will have some troubles
[20:55] <ioria> Guddu, he does not need to edit it
[20:55] <Guddu> adriano_, ioria Will ip a give me the publicIP addrsss?
[20:56] <koroso> ok i will try it
[20:56] <adriano_> Guddu no
[20:56] <ioria> Guddu, send him an e-mail
[20:56] <koroso> when i check uc and ram stats it's ok on kubuntu
[20:57] <koroso> i dont know why it's so slow
[20:57] <ioria> koroso,  freee -m
[20:57] <Guddu> adriano_, ioria SO I am back to my original question. How to know what IP to SSH to?
[20:57] <ioria> koroso,  free -m
[20:57] <adriano_> Guddu on the server computer you can go to a site like www.ipaddress.com
[20:57] <koroso> on konsole<?
[20:57] <ioria> koroso,  yes
[20:57] <ioria> Guddu, only he know it
[20:57] <ioria> *s
[20:57] <adriano_> Guddu that site tells you the public IP address of the computer
[20:58] <koroso> i do it
[20:58] <Guddu> Thanks adriano_  I will try that now.
[20:58] <fatum_> !Pondering42 Cixin Liu - [Three-Body 01] - The Three-Body Problem (epub).rar
[20:58] <adriano_> But if the ssh port isn't open on the router used to connect to the internet you can't connect from outside
[20:58] <ioria> koroso,   free -m | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:59] <koroso> it's done
[20:59] <ioria> koroso,   paste here then url
[20:59] <Welastevil> gi good people!
[21:00] <Welastevil>  I am so glad for the assistence you guys have giving!
[21:00] <temp> What is this?? Where am I??
[21:00] <Welastevil> thanks to you, I solved today lots of problems
[21:00] <adriano_> Guddu then from where you are you can nmap the public IP of your server and see if the ssh port is open
[21:01] <Welastevil> Adriano?
[21:01] <Welastevil> Are you from Brazil?
[21:01] <koroso> i paste it on konsole then i launch firefox?
[21:01] <adriano_> Guddu But if you don't configure the port forwarding you probably can't do it
[21:01] <tenacious> Welastevil, me?
[21:01] <Guddu> adriano_, We managed to install openSSH Server. Now we are attempting to find the public IP
[21:01] <Welastevil> no
[21:01] <adriano_> Guddu Good :9
[21:01] <ioria> koroso,   paste HERE the url
[21:01] <Welastevil> Adriano!
[21:02] <adriano_> Welastevil No, i'm not brasilian
[21:02] <tenacious> looks like hes form italy
[21:02] <fatum_> !Xon Cixin Liu - [Three-Body 01] - The Three-Body Problem (epub).rar
[21:02] <Welastevil> ahhh
[21:02] <adriano_> Welastevil I'm Italian
[21:02] <Welastevil> very popular name in brasil
[21:02] <koroso> http://termbin.com/mydl
[21:02] <Welastevil> Parla!
[21:03] <Welastevil> italiani tutti gente buena!
[21:03] <apropos_man> I installed OpenVPN server on a Raspberry Pi today, to connect to home from outside. Took about 10 hours! :)
[21:03] <ioria> koroso,  your swap is n use... you see ?
[21:03] <Welastevil> parlo poco pero con much gosto
[21:03] <adriano_> Welastevil Capisci l'italiano?
[21:03] <Guddu> adriano_, I can ping my public IP
[21:03] <tenacious> tutti mafiosi
[21:03] <temp> I am confused. I do not understand what exactly this is.
[21:03] <Guddu> But when I sssh to it it does not connnect
[21:03] <Welastevil> your country has the best drum cimbals in the world you know it?
[21:03] <koroso> yes what's that mean ? I say it in first im a newby ;s
[21:03] <ioria> koroso,  swap is like 'disk memory' it's very slow
[21:03] <Welastevil> Capisco
[21:03] <adriano_> tenacious Non tutti dai, not everyone
[21:04] <ioria> koroso,  i don't think kubuntu it's the right choice
[21:04] <Welastevil> all that I know at lest...
[21:04] <koroso> how can i upgrade it?
[21:04] <koroso> change HHD?
[21:04] <adriano_> Guddu Ok, try using nmap on your public ip from where you are... do you know nmap?
[21:04] <Welastevil> I used to live in Brazil in an italian town.
[21:04] <ioria> koroso,  nope, you change distro ----lubuntu for eample
[21:04] <Guddu> adriano_, No....Will read now.
[21:05] <Welastevil> we were colonized around 300 y. ago by intalians.
[21:05] <Bashing-om> temp: You are in the ubuntu operating system support channel .
[21:05] <adriano_> Guddu sudo apt install nmap
[21:05] <koroso> it makes a real difference ?
[21:05] <ioria> koroso,  yes
[21:05] <ioria> koroso,  but you may not like it..
[21:05] <adriano_> Guddu then the command is "sudo nmap <<IP>>"
[21:05] <tenacious> tutti... pasta?
[21:05] <koroso> i dont like kubuntu i prefer xubuntu
[21:05] <ioria> koroso,  just put 'lubuntu' in google images ... ans see
[21:05] <temp> Bashing-om: What is this application that I stumbled upon?? What is XChat??
[21:06] <tenacious> tutti... pomodoro!
[21:06] <Welastevil> I like enlightenment
[21:06] <tenacious> Bashing-om, glad!
[21:06] <adriano_> tenacious Tutti stereotipi, ci piace la pasta ma viviamo anche di altro
[21:06] <lordcirth> temp, XChat is an IRC client.  IRC is Internet Relay Chat.
[21:07] <adriano_> Guddu nmap gives you a scan result for the ip, telling you if there are any ports open
[21:07] <tenacious> adriano_, lol
[21:07] <Bashing-om> !xchat | temp
[21:07] <temp> lordcirth: Meaning what, exactly?? This is an application used for communication??
[21:07] <Welastevil> just installed it
[21:07] <Welastevil> nmap
[21:07] <Welastevil> it has a big sintax!
[21:07] <koroso> i can do nothing to up swamp?
[21:08] <lordcirth> temp, yes.  Thus why everyone is talking.  This particular channel is the Ubuntu support channel, which is why it is open by default.
[21:08] <ioria> koroso,  it does not matter up the swap ...
[21:09] <Welastevil> I installed but doont know how to use it hahahah
[21:09] <temp> Can one use this application for commune with a specific individual?? Can it be used in the CLI??
[21:09] <ioria> koroso,  normally, a system does not need swap
[21:09] <adriano_> temp I use HexChat instead, here you can have individual chats
[21:09] <koroso> why my system need it so?
[21:09] <Welastevil> ohhh I see!
[21:09] <Welastevil> now Im using it!
[21:10] <ioria> koroso,  because you have only 1G and you installed kde
[21:10] <Welastevil> Nmap scan report for 192.168.15.235 [host down]
[21:10] <temp> adriano_: What is HexChat?? Can this be used with a TOR relay??
[21:11] <lordcirth> temp, you can talk to a specific user with '/query username', and there are CLI IRC clients like 'irssi' and 'weechat'
[21:11] <Welastevil> why do you wanna use it with tor relay?
[21:11] <koroso> ok if i switch on 2GO it will be find ?
[21:11] <lordcirth> temp, and yes, anything that uses the internet can be used with Tor, if you are careful
[21:11] <adriano_> temp I don't know about tor relays, it's a simple linux program to chat in IRC
[21:12] <adriano_> Welastevil that is a local IP address
[21:12] <Welastevil> I know adriano
[21:12] <ioria> koroso,  a bit
[21:12] <Welastevil> si
[21:13] <temp> Security purposes. But I am more interested in this using this to commune with specific individuals, and in the CLI.
[21:13] <Welastevil> ok
[21:13] <koroso> can u explain me something please
[21:13] <adriano_> Welastevil you can also scan a range of ips... like "sudo nmap 192.168.1.34-156"
[21:14] <Welastevil> cool man!
[21:14] <koroso> when i check system : total memory : free 760 Mo
[21:14] <Welastevil> it seems that you knows a lot about floss stuf!
[21:14] <koroso> why swap it use so?
[21:15] <ioria> koroso,  free ram is 30
[21:15] <adriano_> Welastevil nmap is one of those tools that is always handy to have and use
[21:15] <koroso> its said that only 47% physical memory it used
[21:15] <Welastevil> do you know "iponmap"?
[21:15] <ioria> koroso,  part is cached
[21:16] <Welastevil> I like that "app" too!
[21:16] <koroso> cached 33%
[21:16] <zeed> hi, I getting this "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" when try this "apt-get install -f" any ideia?
[21:16] <Guddu> adriano_, My Public IP is 200.104.89.209
[21:17] <Bashing-om> zeed: Show that ^ output in a pastebin, such that we get it in context .
[21:18] <adriano_> Guddu I'm trying scanning it to see what i can find
[21:18] <Guddu> Thanks adriano_
[21:20] <koroso> do you know how can i switch on lubuntu without install it just thanks to upgrade kubuntu?
[21:20] <koroso> is it possible?
[21:20] <ikonia> switch on lubuntu without installing it ?
[21:20] <ikonia> what does that mean
[21:20] <lordcirth> koroso, you can install lubuntu-desktop package, and switch to it
[21:20] <ioria> koroso,  you can install lubuntu-desktop .... but why bother ? clean install ?
[21:21] <ioria> koroso,  how gig is your hd ?
[21:21] <koroso> 500
[21:21] <ioria> koroso,  ok, try to install lubuntu-desktop
[21:21] <koroso> ok dualboot,
[21:21] <temp> I believe that it is possible to download and use the Lubuntu window manager (LXLE, I think) without having to download and reinstall a different OS.
[21:21] <koroso> ?
[21:22] <ioria> koroso,  nope, dual-de
[21:22] <koroso> WHATs mean dual de?
[21:22] <koroso> sorry ;s
[21:23] <koroso> dual desktop?
[21:23] <ioria> koroso, yes
[21:23] <reisio> what's dual desktop mean?
[21:23] <ioria> :þ
[21:23] <koroso> can u give me an url where i can find how to do it please
[21:23] <ioria> koroso,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[21:24] <reisio> 'dual desktop' is not a thing, but you can have more than one desktop environment installed at a time
[21:24] <younder> koroso, Do you mean on login with two screens?
[21:24] <koroso> no
[21:24] <ioria> i don't think so
[21:25] <koroso> thank you for it
[21:25] <koroso> i paste it in konsole
[21:25] <koroso> then i restart and i will have the choice?
[21:26] <ioria> koroso,  logout after, and login in ... from the login screen  select lubuntu (or lxde)
[21:26] <koroso> ok
[21:26] <ioria> koroso,  but reboot it's better, in this case
[21:27] <zeed> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/FHVYaDG5 here it is, help.
[21:27] <koroso> i have to wait installation
[21:27] <koroso> ok thank you for all ;)
[21:27] <ioria> koroso, good luck
[21:27] <koroso> i'll be back on lubuntu
[21:27] <zeed> I tried everything, my apt is not working
[21:28] <younder> koroso, Wouldn't  installing it on a virtual machine work? (https://www.virtualbox.org/)
[21:28] <koroso> what's apt can i download to come back on irc?
[21:28] <lordcirth> koroso, you mean IRC client?  Hexchat is good.
[21:29] <koroso> yes thank u
[21:29] <younder> koroso, sudo apt install virtualbox
[21:30] <zeed> need help on my apt-get http://pastebin.com/FHVYaDG5 someone can help me?
[21:30] <koroso> thank u younder but i install lubuntu
[21:30] <koroso> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[21:31] <koroso> i think that it s the best way
[21:31] <zeed> help
[21:32] <Bashing-om> zeed: Looks to be a conflict in installed packages . What shows ' apt-cache policy kaccounts-providers " in a pastebin, please .
[21:33] <wasted> oii
[21:33] <wasted>  some awake ?
[21:33] <wasted> :)
[21:33] <reisio> never
[21:33] <wasted> \o/
[21:33] <wasted>  anyway
[21:33] <koroso> y
[21:33] <koroso> hey
[21:33] <wasted>  i have an issue and i cant get it fixed
[21:33] <wasted>  :)
[21:34] <wasted> if [ "$createpem" = "1" ]; then pwd && cat $fqdn.$ext_crt $fqdn.$ext_key | tee $fqdn.$ext_pem 2>/dev/null; fi
[21:34] <wasted> this creates a lot of text on the screen
[21:34] <wasted>  if i use /dev/null i have less output :)
[21:34] <adriano_> !list
[21:34] <wasted>  if i run the command as a single line its ok
[21:35] <wasted>  but in a script it does not
[21:35] <wasted>  maybe someone have the solution :)
[21:36] <wasted> pwd && cat $fqdn.$ext_crt $fqdn.$ext_key | tee $fqdn.$ext_pem 2>/dev/null does not generate output
[21:39] <ivo_> hey guys
[21:39] <gouveia> Hi
[21:40] <ivo_> Can you help me with setting up the system locale. I want to use German Format but English names.
[21:40] <ivo_> So 20. Nov 22:40:10 CET 2016 -> should be: Sun 20. Nov 22:40:10 CET 2016
[21:40] <Bashing-om> zeed: Are you paying attention ^ ?
[21:41] <Welastevil> how can I play "Zork" in ubuntu?
[21:41] <ivo_> I had similiar issues in Windows, but there is a setting for the Date Language :)
[21:42] <ivo_> don't know exactly how to set it up here
[21:42] <SpaghettiCat_> Welastevil:  with a program like "gargoyle"
[21:42] <Welastevil> wow
[21:42] <Welastevil> never heard about
[21:42] <Welastevil> how to get it?
[21:43] <lordcirth> Welastevil, there is also an interpreter, frotz
[21:45] <younder> Welastevil, Just play it online, or install dosbox and play it there
[21:45] <lordcirth> The online site seems to be down
[21:46] <younder> lordcirth, I am playing it right now
[21:46] <younder> lordcirth, https://textadventures.co.uk/games/view/5zyoqrsugeopel3ffhz_vq/zork
[21:46] <lordcirth> younder, guess that's a different site than the one I found, then.
[21:46] <wasted> i had to use  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null;
[21:46] <Welastevil> I downloaded frotz
[21:46] <wasted> some can explain why i had to use that ?
[21:46] <Welastevil>  but dont know how to open it...
[21:47] <lordcirth> wasted, 2 redirects stderr
[21:47] <lordcirth> Welastevil, just use the site he linked ^
[21:47] <wasted> because i give 2 commands ?
[21:47] <lordcirth> wasted, the command printed output to standard output, and standard error
[21:47] <lordcirth> wasted, > redirects stdout, and 2> redirects stderr
[21:48] <wasted> ah k
[21:48] <lordcirth> wasted, a faster way is 2&1> , iirc
[21:48] <zeed> Bashing-om:  sorry, I send you
[21:48] <wasted> i give it a go
[21:49] <wasted> but i have no output now <3
[21:49] <zeed> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/DY47Vj3s
[21:50] <wasted> ye
[21:50] <wasted>  bit shorter command now
[21:51] <wasted> but i understand my problem now
[21:51] <wasted>  thanks for the support :)
[21:51] <lordcirth> no problem
[21:52] <mirak> hi
[21:52] <mirak> I have a dvd drive, but can't find the device in /dev
[21:52] <Bashing-om> zeed: Look'n .
[21:52] <lordcirth> mirak, /dev/sr0 perhaps?
[21:53] <mirak> lordcirth, not there
[21:53] <zeed> Bashing-om: great
[21:53] <Bashing-om> !info kaccounts-providers
[21:53] <mirak> but it should : [26001.404548] sr 8:0:0:1: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/40x writer xa/form2 cdda tray
[21:53] <zeed> Bashing-om: brb
[21:54] <mirak> lordcirth, it should be sr0
[21:54] <lordcirth> mirak, if you run lsblk, does it show ?
[21:55] <mirak> lordcirth, no, i did that
[21:55] <lordcirth> mirak, anything in dmesg?
[21:55] <koroso> i'm back
[21:56] <koroso> i ha ve installed lubuntu desktop
[21:57] <koroso> it seems faster
[21:57] <lordcirth> koroso, glad to hear it
[21:57] <mirak> lordcirth, beside that line no
[21:57] <lordcirth> mirak, what line, sorry?
[21:57] <lordcirth> oh nvrm
[21:58] <mirak>  [26001.404548] sr 8:0:0:1: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/40x writer xa/form2 cdda tray
[21:58] <lordcirth> mirak, how is the drive plugged in?
[21:58] <koroso> how can it be?
[21:58] <mirak> sata
[21:58] <koroso> it's just desktop switch
[21:58] <mirak> I am not sure I used yet on this motherboard
[21:59] <mirak> can't it be uncompatible ?
[21:59] <mirak> like sata norms
[21:59] <mirak> i doubt it
[21:59] <lordcirth> mirak, but it was only detected 26000 seconds after boot?
[22:00] <lordcirth> that is hours
[22:00] <koroso> thank u i'm going to sleep
[22:00] <koroso> have a good night
[22:00] <lordcirth> koroso, the desktop uses more RAM than everything else
[22:00] <reisio> late in France
[22:00] <koroso> ok :)
[22:00] <lordcirth> Which one you run is important if you don't have much ram
[22:01] <younder> lordcirth, xubuntu
[22:01] <younder> or lubuntu
[22:02] <lordcirth> younder, that wasn't a question
[22:02] <younder> Most distributions seem to want 4 Gb these days
[22:04] <mirak> lordcirth, ok it was not plugued xD
[22:06] <lordcirth> mirak, I suspected that :P
[22:07] <mirak> lordcirth, i wonder were that dmesg lines come from
[22:08] <lordcirth> mirak, being plugged in at some point since boot.
[22:08] <mirak> impossible
[22:09]  * lordcirth shrugs
[22:09] <mirak> i did some cleaning yesterday, but unpluggued everything
[22:09] <mirak> i mean not clean inside the computer
[22:09] <mirak> outside
[22:10] <mirak> it could have jumped out of the socket
[22:10] <mirak> but anyway I never used it since i put it in this computer, so I might have never pluggued it
[22:12] <ericx2x> whats the best way to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[22:13] <ericx2x> i already have ubuntu installed but now I want to isntall windows
[22:15] <Bashing-om> ericx2x: Once Windows is intalled, will have to re-install grub if both systems are on the same hard drive .
[22:17] <ericx2x> what if i dont have windows installed but i have ubuntu installed
[22:18] <vfw> ericx2x: Install Windows in VM
[22:18] <Bashing-om> ericx2x: What happens is that Windows installs it's boot code, Now Windows does not speak 'buntu .. but 'buntu will happily accomodate Windows .
[22:19] <ericx2x> fuck
[22:20] <vfw> ericx2x: What Bashing-om is saying is that the MS Windows install will automatically install it's boot loader and overwrite the one you have now.
[22:20] <ericx2x> no way to prevent this? I don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu and my software again
[22:20] <vfw> ericx2x: But it's not that hard to re-install the boot loader with Ubuntu LiveCD session.
[22:21] <vfw> ericx2x: Or, you can install MS Windows in VirtualBox
[22:21] <vfw> !virtualbox | ericx2x
[22:21] <Bashing-om> ericx2x: All we are saying is that the boot code (ubuntu's) will require re-installing . NOT the operating system .
[22:21] <ericx2x> I don't want to vbox sorry
[22:22] <vfw> ericx2x: Ok, well there are your options.
[22:23] <gadgetguy__> hi
[22:23] <vfw>          there
[22:24] <gadgetguy__> I have been using iptables to forward traffic from a specific port onto another server. I found this command which works fine with tcp but not udp. How can I edit it to it will work with udp?
[22:24] <gadgetguy__> # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 1111 -j DNAT --to-destination 2.2.2.2:1111
[22:28] <teward> gadgetguy__: you know what -p does right?
[22:29] <lordcirth> gadgetguy__, perhaps you should read the command and tell us?
[22:29] <gadgetguy__> I do not, I'm sorry I don't have much experience in linux
[22:29] <teward> gadgetguy__: I suggest the iptables manpage then
[22:29] <teward> gadgetguy__: you say it works for tcp but not udp
[22:29] <teward> where in your command do you reference tcp explicitly?
[22:29] <teward> s/explicitly/specifically/
[22:30] <gadgetguy__> So I would just remove tcp? wasn't sure if I had to add a udp flag
[22:30] <teward> gadgetguy__: no... you'd replace tcp with udp
[22:30] <gadgetguy__> Well for both tcp and udp
[22:30] <teward> I strongly recommend that you go read the manpage - it really helps.
[22:30] <teward> gadgetguy__: you need two rules
[22:30] <gadgetguy__> Not just tcp
[22:30] <teward> gadgetguy__: one for TCP one for UDP
[22:32] <gadgetguy__> Ahh, I would use "all" instead of tcp
[22:32] <gadgetguy__> Thank you
[22:32] <teward> you could do that, too, though I suggest individual rules
[22:33] <teward> so if you ever need just TCP you can easily switch it off without having to remove and recreate the rule.
[22:33] <beatrice> ciao
[22:33] <beatrice> !list
[22:34] <gadgetguy__> That's true, as all is tcp, udp, icmp, etc
[22:35] <vfw> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 192.168.1.5 --dport 1003 -j DNAT --to-destination 2.2.2.2:1111
[22:39] <beatrice> !alis
[22:39] <beatrice> mi servirebbe la lista
[22:40] <beatrice> mi servirebbe la lista per scaricare film
[22:40] <beatrice> !list
[22:40] <beatrice> !alis
[22:41] <vlt> Dovremmo cambiare il testo per !list in ialiano di nuovp :-D
[22:41] <vlt> !it | beatrice
[22:43]  * vlt wonders why the factoid for !list is not in Italian anymore
[22:48] <me> *testing hexchat*
[22:48] <me> it works
[22:48] <Guest13155> just upgraded to 16.04, unity isn't loading upon login, what is the fix?
[22:49] <vfw> Guest13155: Black screen?
[22:50] <vfw> Guest13155: Or console login?
[22:50] <Guest13155> vfw: nah X loads fine, i can login but the desktop manager isn't loading
[22:50] <vfw> Guest13155: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:50] <Mamiko> hi guys, after reffiling the catridge the printed ones are too light if the pdf files font is light(not bold) so what is wrong with my printer?
[22:51] <Mamiko> my printer is canon mf211
[22:52] <billy_bob> Does anyone here have experience tethering phones with ubuntu?
[22:52] <vfw> Guest13155: Alt-F2 should give you a run command window. Right?
[22:53] <Guest13155> vfw: yeah i have the console
[22:53] <vfw> Guest13155: Or Alt-F6 for console.
[22:53] <Guest13155> vfw: everything updated, rebooting
[22:54] <blackwind_123> how to find the salt used in the password encryption used in the unix systems..??
[22:54] <vfw> Guest13155: Let us know...
[22:55] <Guest13155> vfw: no luck, looks like unity is crashing
[22:55] <blackwind_123> how to find the salt used in the password encryption used in the unix systems..?? ALso is the same salt value be used with different users...???
[22:55] <Guest13155> vfw: .xsession-errors shows crashing for indicator* processes
[22:56] <billy_bob> Is there a way for me to install PdaNet on Ubuntu?  I found a thread on the ubuntu forums of people being able to install it, but I only see installs for Mac and Windows
[22:57] <vfw> Guest13155: sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz
[22:58] <pezdispenser> Hi,  On windows I'm able to stream my camera to multiple sources simultaneously,  like skype, and other video chat services at the same time,   However I've been unable to find a way to do this on linux, and I'd really like to not have to use windows for this, can anyone help me ?
[22:58] <Guest13155> vfw: no luck still crashing
[22:59] <vfw> Guest13155:N  Did you reboot again?
[22:59] <Guest13155> vfw: yes
[22:59] <vfw> sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[23:00] <Macetero> quit
[23:01] <Guest13155> vfw: no changes
[23:03] <Guest13155> vfw: fixed it
[23:03] <cygnus1412> is here the right place to solve ubuntu problems
[23:03] <cygnus1412> ?
[23:03] <billy_bob> Yes cygnus1412
[23:03] <squinty> !topic
[23:03] <Bashing-om> cygnus1412: Here Is a great place, to start .
[23:04] <cygnus1412> when i resume from suspend i have no sound
[23:04] <Guest13155> vfw: had to remove ~/.cache/compizconfig-1
[23:04] <cygnus1412> the sound output is changed to what ubuntu calls "analog output"
[23:05] <cygnus1412> and i have to awitch it back manualy
[23:06] <claudia__> hola
[23:06] <cygnus1412> im on ubuntu 14.04
[23:06] <cygnus1412> and im also a newbie
[23:09] <pezdispenser> Hi,  On windows I'm able to stream my camera to multiple sources simultaneously,  like skype, and other video chat services at the same time,   However I've been unable to find a way to do this on linux, and I'd really like to not have to use windows for this, can anyone help me ?
[23:12] <pezdispenser> there has to be a way to do this... I've searched forums for like a year over this
[23:15] <OerHeks> pezdispenser, maybe this page is any help, never tried that myself https://www.timdejong.nl/blog/use-webcam-two-applications-under-linux-simultaneously-using-v4l2loopback
[23:15] <pezdispenser> OerHeks: yeah... tried this.. can't seem to get it to work,  but I'll have another crack at it
[23:16] <rafal1> Hello I have a penis
[23:16] <pezdispenser> OerHeks:  this has much clearer instructions on how to duplicate the dev/video   thank you so much
[23:17] <rafal1> @pezdispenser I molested your children
[23:17] <hggdh> rafal1: mo matter how this can be disrupting for you, please stop now
[23:19] <blackflow> hggdh: just ignore trolls and leave them to ops. the more anyone respond, the more incentive they have to come back.
[23:19] <OerHeks> pezdispenser, let us know if you get it to work :-)
[23:20] <pezdispenser> I'm in a skype call that can't be put off so.. I'll have to try it in a bit ;)
[23:20] <OerHeks> blackflow, hggdh is a well know ubuntu-member ;-)
[23:25] <blackflow> OerHeks: alrighty :) my apologies.
[23:29] <bill70> i am using ubuntu 16.04, if I reboot the machine and then it sits at the log on screen wait for the PW can i remote destop into it via the built in remote desktop ?  Or do i need to be logged in locally at the computer to allow remote connections?
[23:32] <jasonbbb> need help configuring smtp on localhost where ISP blocks port 25. New to setting up server but everything else is configured for a website and is up and running yet cant send email verification emails out.
[23:34] <jasonbbb> need help configuring smtp on localhost where ISP blocks port 25. New to setting up server but everything else is configured for a website and is up and running yet cant send email verification emails out.
[23:34] <lordcirth> jasonbbb, sending it twice doesn't help us figure it out any faster
[23:34] <kk4ewt> get  a better provider
[23:35] <lordcirth> Doesn't SMTP with TLS go over 465?
[23:37] <jasonbbb> sorry about double posting thought this was dead like the server channel xD
[23:37] <jasonbbb> but yeah need help configuring it i'm running mybb forums off ubuntu 16 server
[23:37] <lordcirth> jasonbbb, 2 minutes is not dead.  30 minutes is dead.
[23:37] <jasonbbb> cant out email verifications because either the php mail isnt configured right or the smtp isnt\
[23:38] <lordcirth> jasonbbb, shouldn't your smtp be using port 465 with TLS?
[23:40] <Anthaas> Is there a way to get my network interfaces to be named eth0, eth1 etc rather than enp3s0 etc?
[23:41] <Bashing-om> Anthaas: Yes: see https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .
[23:42] <eelstrebor> weird - the same set of PPA's on one box works OK while they give me a bunch of dependency errors on another
[23:44] <jasonbbb> im not sure like i said im new to setting this up. My web server is up and running everything works with apache2 mysql and everything even my port forwarding for public access but the stmp stuff has got me stumped i was reading a few different tutorials but i dont know where to begin.
[23:45] <jasonbbb> on my forum setting it asks me for a smtp forwarding which i set up with gmail and also live which gave me a query error so that didnt work and went back to php mail which doesnt do anything.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> eelstrebor: Show us in a pastebin, the command(s) and errors that you see .
[23:48] <Anthaas> My /etc/udev/rules.d/ only has 60-vboxdrv-rules in. Where are other files?
[23:48] <EriC^^> Anthaas: what do you expect?
[23:49] <Anthaas> Well, 70-persistent-net.rules for a start.
[23:50] <Drakonan> hey have yall seen the issue where your network tries to start for 5 min just because you dont have the wire hooked up?
[23:50] <lordcirth> Drakonan, yup.  That's how it works.
[23:50] <EriC^^> Anthaas: mine's empty
[23:50] <Drakonan> lordcirth, can you turn it off or make it async so the gui loads
[23:51] <lordcirth> Drakonan, edit your /etc/network/interfaces and fix whatever you have set there
[23:51] <lordcirth> http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem#213615
[23:51] <lordcirth> Networkmanager is async, I think
[23:52] <Drakonan> it'll eventually come up just so slow...
[23:57] <pezdispenser> OerHeks:  I successfully created two other dev/  video sources,  however skype and flash based websites will not work with it : (