[02:08] <SporkWitch> anyone else notice any issues with gpg in 16.10?  running into quite a few, between it putting sockets in the wrong directories (which you apparently cannot change), randomly forgetting my smartcard is there (requiring me to kill gpg-agent and restart it), and ssh-agent running for some undetermined reason (possibly causing conflicts).  Further, it also keeps trying to use a subkey for which no
[02:08] <SporkWitch> secret key is available, rather than the one for which a stub is present
[04:38] <thewest3818> allo tlm
[05:12] <SporkWitch> signing issue with backports ppa: http://hastebin.com/iqenelalah.cs
[05:13] <SporkWitch> gpg2 (2.1.11) symlinked to /usr/local/bin/gpg
[05:27] <valorie> weird, SporkWitch -- can you report that in #kubuntu-devel ?
[05:27] <valorie> I added it with no such problem, but that was awhile ago
[05:27] <SporkWitch> looks like it's the symlink
[05:29] <SporkWitch> removed it, added repo (and didn't get that weird "no openpgp data" message), and now it doesn't complain about keys.  put symlink back in place and it still behaves.  presumably this is resolved in 16.10, since 2.1.15 is there as gpg rather than gpg2
[05:29] <SporkWitch> valorie: so looks like it's not worth filing an issue; i suspect symlinking gpg2 as gpg is rather an edge case
[05:30] <valorie> ok
[09:07] <braadli> I was being dumb; trying to connect without specifying a user (root)
[09:08] <HiTiger666> I cannot get my broadcom Wireless card to work :( Tried all the guides with b43 installer etc. but nothing works...
[09:08] <HiTiger666> Does anyone know how this can be done?
[09:08] <asit> help me with instant messaging facebook plugin
[10:28] <mojo_risin> Hello, I'm using Kubuntu 16.04. I use a laptop with an USB docking station with multiple monitors. I'm experiencing a problem where the own laptop monitor stays black after inactivity. Here is some info on my laptop: http://upaste.me/35c735962e62c6ab3
[10:29] <mojo_risin> Could you please help guiding me on a way to fix/debug the problem?
[10:32] <Tm_T> mojo_risin: I have seen such blackness happening when the laptop monitor get backlight set to zero
[10:32] <Tm_T> as in, it doesn't go back up automatically, have to lean to hotkeys to get picture back
[10:35] <mojo_risin> Tim_T, I have blacklight always constant but didn't try the hotkeys to get it back, will try next time it happens
[10:35] <Tm_T> who's Tim?
[10:35] <mojo_risin> Tm_T: sorry
[10:36] <hateball> !tab | mojo_risin
[10:39] <Not_a_Robot> Please guys, can you help me with this problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23511073/
[10:39] <Not_a_Robot> I can't lose the content!
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:55] <yocs0000> Hi all, I am on 16.04 .... I would like the very last version of plasma, what is the best way in your opinion?
[14:55] <yocs0000> To install 16.10 or to backport or ....
[15:02] <yocs0000> Hi all, I am on 16.04 .... I would like the very last version of plasma, what is the best way in your opinion?
[15:02] <yocs0000> To install 16.10 or to backport or ....
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, ok you want plasma 5.8.3 at launchapad staging-plasma and staging-frameworks ppas
[15:11] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: is that the best way, or is it better if I upgrade to 16.10?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> yocs0000, I'm on 16.10, but those ppas are available for 16.04 as well
[15:20] <BluesKaj> frankly i think 16.10 is more stable than 16.04 IME
[15:22] <grek> hi is possible to run plasma 4 in kubuntu 16.10 ? i have screen settings bug in 14.04 work fine now stop work (usb screen)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> no
[15:25] <grek> ok thanks
[15:29] <yocs0000> BluesKaj: thank you! How do you upgrade? Is it possible to do it using a graphical interface?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> yocs0000,  I recommend this: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, then, sudo do-release-upgrade , in the terminal. Make sure you switch the update manager to normal from LTS upgrades Only, first
[15:38] <acheronuk> yocs0000: please do not add those ppas to 16.04. on their own, they will not work for Xenial
[15:40] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: as above ^^^
[15:45] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, thy're listed in the OS drop down ,in the framewqorks, and suddenly the dropdown in staging-plasma disappeared (Technical details about this ppa - choose your version)
[15:45] <BluesKaj> it was there yesterday
[15:46] <BluesKaj> any acheronuk he's not going to use them on xenial, he's upgrading to yakkety first
[15:46] <BluesKaj> anyway
[15:47] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: they have Xenial packages in them, but without some other ppas on top, the upgrade will be broken
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ok , good ..I advised him to upgrade to 16.10 first since it's more stable IME
[15:49] <acheronuk> end users should not really be adding our staging ppas anyway. only testers who are aware of the hazards. the packages in those ppas may be removed at any time, or updated with something new that is incomplete or broken while we work on it
[15:50] <genii> !staging
[15:50] <genii> ...there used to be a factoid something to that effect
[15:51] <BluesKaj> some users like to be adventurous without being "testers" :-)
[21:20] <fakam>  Hello I am having graphic issues. http://imgur.com/a/gJ18P  here is a image, when I'm playing a video or just at random black spaces appear and or the window frame vanishes on some windows.. Appreciate the help.
[21:20] <oem> macbuntu is tight
[21:21] <fakam> also is it possible to put unity on kde to see if maybe this fixes the issues?
[21:23] <valorie> fakam: how would a desktop have any influence on graphical driver issues?
[21:23] <fakam> I don't know.
[21:23] <fakam> Maybe how it renders the desktop?
[21:25] <valorie> you can try `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`
[21:25] <valorie> or safer, `sudo ubuntu-drivers list`
[21:25] <valorie> see what's available and do your own research
[21:26] <valorie> ubuntu-drivers help has info as well
[21:26] <fakam> Do my own research, I googled it, and no info.. I figured I'd come here hence "support chat?"
[21:26] <fakam> thanks
[21:26] <valorie> unfortunately the gui driver-manager is currently broken
[21:27] <fakam> nvidia-367
[21:27] <fakam> intel-microcode
[21:27] <valorie> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices is also useful
[21:28] <valorie> man ubuntu-drivers might give you more ideas as well
[21:28] <fakam> I did not have this issue until recent.
[21:28] <fakam>  Official Kubuntu support - sure lol
[21:29] <fakam> +1 for support cya
[21:30] <valorie> well, this isn't a Kubuntu issue
[21:30] <dougl> good note to move fo...
[21:32] <dougl> was that about an nvidia issue?
[21:33] <SporkWitch> apt-get install muon, then either wait a bit or restart.  the graphical driver wizard will work now.
[21:34] <SporkWitch> in 16.04, Discover and the additional drivers wizard are broken because muon isn't actually installed by default.  Installing it explicitly makes them work again.
[21:34] <SporkWitch> (or rather, makes them work at all)
[21:34] <Eli2_> out of curiostiy are there any reasons not to install muon ?
[21:35] <Eli2_> or why was it taken out of the default
[21:35] <valorie> SporkWitch: that sounds like a bug
[21:35] <valorie> packaging error
[21:35] <SporkWitch> valorie: it's fixed in 16.10 as far as i can tell
[21:35] <valorie> sure, but 16.04 is our LTS
[21:35] <valorie> we support it for 3 years I believe
[21:35] <SporkWitch> FINE i'll submit a bug lol
[21:36]  * SporkWitch is LAZY
[21:36] <valorie> thank you!
[21:36] <valorie> ubuntu-bug discover makes it less painful
[21:37] <SporkWitch> it's not just discover, though, it's the driver wizard, as well as anything else that depends on muon, as well
[21:38] <SporkWitch> lol, ubuntu-bug froze
[21:39] <SporkWitch> how should i submit the bug report for ubuntu bug freezing when you hit cancel? lol
[21:39] <valorie> yikes
[21:39] <valorie> I actually did that once, and supposedly they fixed it
[21:39] <valorie> it's called "apport" I found out
[21:39] <SporkWitch> yeah, apport-kde
[21:39] <SporkWitch> what's the url to just submit the report normally? lol
[21:43] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bugs is the closest I could find
[21:43] <valorie> so much better if you can get apport to work though
[21:45] <valorie> you could try `apport-kde -f -p discover
[21:45] <valorie> `
[21:45] <SporkWitch> lol, command not found
[21:45] <SporkWitch> this just keeps getting better
[21:46] <valorie> -f = --file-bug and -p = package
[21:46] <valorie> I was looking in man apport-kde
[21:46] <SporkWitch> apport-cli works
[21:46] <SporkWitch> you want it on muon, discover, or  the driver wizard?
[21:46] <SporkWitch> seems like it should be on muon, since the issue is that muon isn't included in the default installed packages
[21:46] <valorie> oh, apport-cli -f -p package
[21:47] <valorie> sorry
[21:47] <[Relic]> can anyone using plasma 5.8 tell me if it still has the sort alphabetically forced, when set to do not sort?
[21:47] <valorie> ok, that's a good thought process
[21:47] <valorie> because IMO it should be included
[21:47] <valorie> I still find it far superior to Discover
[21:47] <SporkWitch> it needs to be, because Discover and the driver wizard don't work without it
[21:47] <SporkWitch> discover doesn't work without it; you can click things, but it has display bugs, and all search functionality is nonfunctional, until you install muon itself
[21:48] <SporkWitch> (that said, i only use discover for browsing; i do my maint with aptitude)
[21:48] <SporkWitch> gah, i'll have to file it when i get home, need to set up / recover a ubuntu one account, apparently
[21:49] <SporkWitch> if you don't see a submission on muon from rob.klebes@gmail.com poke me the next time you see me, but i should remember
[21:49] <SporkWitch> o/
[21:49] <valorie> thanks SporkWitch
[21:50] <[Relic]> had to install the muon package manager, hate discover and it never worked well
[22:59] <SporkWitch> valorie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1643715
[22:59] <valorie> oh thank you very much
[22:59] <SporkWitch> yup; i doubt the auto-attached files will be of any use, i saw some errors in them, but it's not related to the issue, which is muon not actually being installed by default
[23:00] <SporkWitch> (and the issue isn't specific to the machine i submitted from)
[23:00] <valorie> still, that gives the devels a way to easily check that
[23:00] <valorie> so did ubuntu-bug finally come through for you?
[23:00] <valorie> because it *usually* works
[23:01] <SporkWitch> valorie: i just used apport-cli
[23:03] <valorie> well, at least tht worked
[23:03] <valorie> sheesh
[23:05] <SporkWitch> ?
[23:07] <valorie> I mean, at least apport-cli worked
[23:10] <SporkWitch> gotcha
[23:11] <valorie> I've brought it to the attention of the devels, so I hope it will be fixed soon, before the next point release at least