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| sil2100 | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rbasak | o/ | 15:00 |
| rbasak | Who else is here? | 15:00 |
| cyphermox | yep | 15:00 |
| philroche | Phil Roche (Canonical CPC team) also here on behalf of Odd_Bloke to answer any questions you might have about his proposal to include the gce-compute-image-packages package in the ubuntu-cloud packageset. | 15:00 |
| rbasak | philroche: I don't see that request. Do you have a link please? | 15:01 |
| rbasak | Oh, sorry, I got it. | 15:01 |
| rbasak | We still need one more for quorum. | 15:02 |
| sil2100 | It was on the mailing list | 15:02 |
| rbasak | micahg: o/ | 15:02 |
| cyphermox | we don't usually need a full meeting to add a package to a packageset though, do we? | 15:02 |
| rbasak | micahg: available for this meeting? Then we have quorum. | 15:02 |
| sil2100 | cyphermox: no, one member to agree is enough IIRC | 15:03 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: no, we only need quorum for general applications. A packageset addition needs only one +1. | 15:03 |
| rbasak | But we can assign an action (without quorum) if that'll help get it done. | 15:03 |
| micahg | o | 15:03 |
| micahg | o/ | 15:03 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting DMB | 15:03 |
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| rbasak | #topic Review of previous action items | 15:04 |
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| rbasak | sil2100 to deal with the juju packageset creation | 15:04 |
| rbasak | sil2100 sil2100 to update the lubuntu packageset according to the current seed | 15:04 |
| rbasak | sil2100: how's that going? | 15:04 |
| sil2100 | Not finished yet, sorry about that - I added new lubuntu packages to the packageset, but eh, still didn't clear up the old ones | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | Was doing that semi-manually since the script wasn't reliable | 15:05 |
| rbasak | Yeah I've resorted to doing that too :-/ | 15:05 |
| rbasak | sil2100: what about juju packageset? Or did that get deferred because we have no uploaders? | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | Promise to resolve this this week | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | rbasak: there are no uploaders right now so it's more of a thing 'for the future' | 15:06 |
| rbasak | #action sil2100 to update the lubuntu packageset according to the current seed (carried over) | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to update the lubuntu packageset according to the current seed (carried over) | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | I wanted to do that but then learned that the TB needs to do that | 15:06 |
| rbasak | sil2100: OK, do you still want an action for that or shall we drop it? | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | Let's drop it | 15:06 |
| rbasak | OK | 15:06 |
| sil2100 | We can really take care of it when it's needed, I don't want to bother the TB without much merit from that | 15:07 |
| rbasak | #done sil2100 to deal with the juju packageset creation | 15:07 |
| rbasak | #topic MOTU Applications | 15:08 |
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| rbasak | #subtopic MattiaRizzolo (mapreri) - application (for Nov 21th) | 15:08 |
| rbasak | mapreri: hello! Please could you start by introducing yourself? | 15:09 |
| mapreri | o/ | 15:09 |
| * josvaz__ also here for the same reason as philroche | 15:10 | |
| mapreri | I've been contributing to the community (loco team ubuntu-it mostly) since 5 years or so, 3 years ago I started doing some dev stuff like merges, etc. Then I later shifted a bit on the Debian side of the equation, were I became DD last year. | 15:10 |
| mapreri | This is the tl;dr story of me, guess it's a bit longer on the wiki, but I'm happy to provide more. | 15:10 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 15:11 |
| rbasak | Does anyone have questions for mapreri? | 15:11 |
| rbasak | Well, I have some :) | 15:12 |
| mapreri | shot them :) | 15:13 |
| rbasak | What are your specific reasons for applying for MOTU? | 15:13 |
| mapreri | First, even if this is not true and I know it isn't, I feel a bit limited in what I can do. I know that since I became DM (and then DD) I started doing a lot more just because I didn't even to bother sponsors anymore. Practical examples includes carrying over library transitions in ubuntu; In the past year I started (or collaborated) several of them in Debian, but for the ubuntu side I just prodded my usual sponsors with "please do the | 15:16 |
| mapreri | needed rebuild of these", which is lame. And then I'd like to help a bit with sponsorship stuff; it's working atm, but it's pretty clear that it could use another hand. | 15:16 |
| mapreri | I also have an interested in the same packages I maintain in Debian, but given that I actually care about more than just my garden I figured I could do more. | 15:17 |
| mapreri | s/interested/interest/ | 15:18 |
| * LocutusOfBorg will be happy to stop signing and uploading is requests :p | 15:18 | |
| rbasak | OK, thanks. | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | mapreri: are you also going throught the sponsoring queue to find things that need some work? | 15:18 |
| mapreri | (and, incidentally, I'd like to also apply for PPU for a couple of packages I have in main in ubuntu, btw) | 15:19 |
| mapreri | sil2100: from time to time I look at http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html to see how things are (and they are quite good atm, tbh), but no, I'm not reviewing stuff atm, nor actively looking at it. | 15:20 |
| sil2100 | Like, doing reviews so that eventual sponsors have it easier, prepare debdiffs etc. | 15:20 |
| sil2100 | Ok | 15:20 |
| rbasak | Next question from me: what and how do you check if an upload is appropriate for Ubuntu with respect to our development cycle? | 15:21 |
| mapreri | like, if that given upload is ok considering the moment we're in the given cycle? (i.e. freezes, etc?) | 15:22 |
| rbasak | Right, that's my question. | 15:23 |
| mapreri | if it's that, basically everything's good untile the Import Freeze, after that changes should be pondered according to which phase the development cycle is | 15:23 |
| rbasak | Can you give me an example of a (made up if needed) change that isn't OK to upload at a particular time? | 15:24 |
| mapreri | starting a openssl transitions one month before the freeze counts as a thing not to do? /me grumbles | 15:25 |
| rbasak | In Ubuntu specifically. What I'm looking for is that you're aware of the Ubuntu development cycle specifically, and that you know what not to upload when. | 15:26 |
| mapreri | otherwise, umh, for example after the feature freeze a new major version of a software which changes all of its interface is not good. | 15:26 |
| rbasak | Do you know where you can find the current freeze dates for Zesty? | 15:27 |
| mapreri | I have scribus in universe. If it happens they release the new 1.5.x series, that's going to change all the interface and invalidate old file types, that's something I'd put after the FF | 15:27 |
| mapreri | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/DraftReleaseSchedule ? | 15:27 |
| mapreri | s/I'd put/I wouldn't put/ meh | 15:28 |
| rbasak | Great, thanks. | 15:28 |
| rbasak | I hadn't noticed it was still in draft! | 15:28 |
| mapreri | that was a hell of a typo | 15:28 |
| rbasak | I thought it probably was. I was waiting for the correction :-) | 15:28 |
| sil2100 | mapreri: ok, one question from me, a rather easy one: when you get some packages sponsored, do you make sure the new package migrates to the release pocket correctly? | 15:28 |
| sil2100 | mapreri: if yes, where do you go to check if a package gets stuck in -proposed? | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | it's not a typo, I, slangasek and infinity have yet to go through it one last time and make it not draft | 15:28 |
| mapreri | yes | 15:28 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: the "s/I'd put/I wouldn't put/ meh" I mean :) | 15:29 |
| mapreri | sil2100: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html + _output.txt (which I'm perfectly able to read) | 15:29 |
| sil2100 | Excellent | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | yeah, I figured after :) | 15:29 |
| rbasak | Any more questions for mapreri? | 15:29 |
| rbasak | micahg: ? | 15:29 |
| sil2100 | Not from me, I'm all good | 15:29 |
| mapreri | JOOI, do you know if anybody though to have the britney output more integreted into LP? | 15:30 |
| mapreri | thought* | 15:30 |
| rbasak | I'm not aware of any plans for this. | 15:30 |
| mapreri | oh, well.. guess it's fine enough as it is already (just boring to load multi-MB web page..) | 15:31 |
| sil2100 | I guess micahg has no questions | 15:32 |
| rbasak | I think micahg had to step away briefly, and we need him for a quorate vote as there are only four members here today, including him. | 15:32 |
| mapreri | I'm not going anywhere, you can move to another candidate and ask me more questions later if you want :) | 15:33 |
| rbasak | Let's go ahead with the vote. micahg can provide his opinion later anyway. | 15:33 |
| rbasak | #vote Grant mapreri MOTU | 15:33 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Grant mapreri MOTU | 15:33 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:33 |
| rbasak | sil2100, cyphermox: ^ | 15:34 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:34 |
| sil2100 | +1 (upload history says it all) | 15:35 |
| meetingology | +1 (upload history says it all) received from sil2100 | 15:35 |
| sil2100 | The world could always use more MOTUs | 15:35 |
| mapreri | :) | 15:36 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 15:36 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 15:36 |
| micahg | +1 | 15:36 |
| meetingology | +1 received from micahg | 15:36 |
| rbasak | +1 | 15:36 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 15:36 |
| rbasak | #endvote | 15:36 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Grant mapreri MOTU | 15:36 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:36 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:36 |
| mapreri | \o/\o/ | 15:36 |
| mapreri | Thank you all! :) | 15:36 |
| rbasak | mapreri: congratulations, and thank you for helping Ubuntu out! | 15:36 |
| sil2100 | mapreri: congrats! | 15:36 |
| rbasak | Who wants to take the actions to add mapreri? | 15:37 |
| mapreri | Question: if I wanted to ask for PPU for a couple of packages in main, shall I just email the team? | 15:37 |
| rbasak | Technically PPU additions require quorum (four +1s). But we can try to do that on the ML if you want unless in response someone wants to take it to IRC perhaps? | 15:38 |
| mapreri | (those would be pbuilder and libreoffice-dictionaries, btw) | 15:38 |
| rbasak | Or shall we just vote on that now? | 15:38 |
| rbasak | (given that we've all just reviewed all your work) | 15:38 |
| mapreri | (yeah, figured it would be a kinda good moment, even if off agenda (sorry!)) | 15:39 |
| rbasak | mapreri: GunnarHj already uploads libreoffice-dictionaries. Are you in touch with him? | 15:40 |
| mapreri | rbasak: we collaborated last year yes - e.g. he sent some changes to debian, I included them and then he re-uploaded those to debian, given that we couldn't sync the package just yet | 15:41 |
| mapreri | the second debian is an ubuntu.. | 15:41 |
| rbasak | OK, let's vote on that then. | 15:42 |
| rbasak | #vote Grant mapreri PPU to pbuilder and libreoffice-dictionaries | 15:42 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Grant mapreri PPU to pbuilder and libreoffice-dictionaries | 15:42 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:42 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 15:44 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 15:44 |
| rbasak | micahg, sil2100: ^ | 15:45 |
| micahg | +1 | 15:45 |
| meetingology | +1 received from micahg | 15:45 |
| rbasak | Also, I'm still looking for a volunteer to make changes/announcements etc. | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 15:45 |
| meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 15:45 |
| rbasak | +1 | 15:45 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 15:45 |
| rbasak | #endvote | 15:45 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Grant mapreri PPU to pbuilder and libreoffice-dictionaries | 15:45 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:45 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:45 |
| mapreri | \o/ | 15:45 |
| mapreri | Thank you all again! :) | 15:45 |
| rbasak | I guess I'm doing it then! | 15:46 |
| micahg | added to MOTU, TB needs to add PPI | 15:47 |
| micahg | PPU | 15:47 |
| rbasak | Ah, thanks micahg! | 15:47 |
| rbasak | Do you mind sorting those? | 15:47 |
| rbasak | (and the announcement) | 15:47 |
| sil2100 | You're welcome! | 15:47 |
| micahg | been having a little trouble with email I'm trying to resolve | 15:47 |
| rbasak | OK, I'll sort | 15:47 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to announce mapreri's MOTU and PPU status | 15:47 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to get mapreri's PPU additions done by the TB | 15:47 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to announce mapreri's MOTU and PPU status | 15:47 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to get mapreri's PPU additions done by the TB | 15:47 |
| sil2100 | micahg: thanks for handling those o/ | 15:47 |
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| rbasak | #subtopic Gianfranco Costamagna (costamagnagianfranco) | 15:48 |
| rbasak | LocutusOfBorg: hello! | 15:48 |
| LocutusOfBorg | hello :) | 15:49 |
| rbasak | LocutusOfBorg: shall I jump straight to questions? What are your thoughts on the "Areas of Improvement" type comments from the endorsers of your application? | 15:50 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I don't have any real answer, I think giings is right | 15:51 |
| LocutusOfBorg | FWIW I try to find the best approach following each cases, and try to keep transitions in sync with Debian | 15:51 |
| LocutusOfBorg | and I try to avoid breaking the freeze whenever possible :) | 15:52 |
| rbasak | OK | 15:52 |
| rbasak | What about pitti's comment on dropping deltas? | 15:52 |
| LocutusOfBorg | but sometimes I think breaking it is the right thing to do | 15:52 |
| rbasak | (well, eliminating rather than dropping I guess) | 15:52 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I think this happened only once, and I still didn't get why and how my workflow failed | 15:52 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it didn't happen again, so I couldn't debug it further | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | considering I uploaded ~1k packages or more, I didn't consider it a real issue | 15:53 |
| rbasak | To be clear, which question are you answering there? | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/ | 15:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it happened once that during a merge I dropped an ubuntu delta that was still needed | 15:53 |
| rbasak | Ah, I see. | 15:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | when I got mail I readded it quickly | 15:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | not sure if MoM failed, or I failed, or both of us :p | 15:54 |
| rbasak | As an aside, if MoM failed then that's still the uploader's responsibility to check it, IMHO. | 15:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | completely true | 15:55 |
| rbasak | Final question. Above you said "sometimes I think breaking it is the right thing to do". What process would you follow if you thought this case the case? | 15:55 |
| rbasak | this was the case? | 15:55 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I *always* bother people on #-release :) | 15:55 |
| rbasak | What if I said it was OK in #ubuntu-release? Would you upload it then? | 15:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I don't bother people for some particular cases, e.g. when a new kernel is uploaded after the freeze, and my pet virtualbox-dkms breaks | 15:56 |
| rbasak | Maybe that's too much of a trick question, sorry. | 15:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | rbasak, last time I checked you weren't part of ubuntu-release team :p | 15:56 |
| rbasak | I mean: how do you know...right :) | 15:56 |
| rbasak | OK, I'm done. | 15:56 |
| rbasak | Does anyone have any other questions for LocutusOfBorg? | 15:56 |
| * mapreri thinks we are supposed to know who wears the release hat :) | 15:57 | |
| LocutusOfBorg | usually I ask directly to one release team member, who I think is the best person to answer my question | 15:57 |
| rbasak | I think that's fine, since any one release team member can grant an exception. | 15:58 |
| rbasak | #vote Grant LocutusOfBorg core dev | 15:58 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Grant LocutusOfBorg core dev | 15:58 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:58 |
| rbasak | micahg, sil2100, cyphermox: ^ | 15:58 |
| micahg | LocutusOfBorg: could you please clarify what you mean by your comment about a kernel upload after freeze and virtualbox-dkms breaks? | 16:01 |
| LocutusOfBorg | micahg, a new kernel release usually breaks kernel modules | 16:02 |
| micahg | yes, but what does that mean in terms of virtualbox that you would do | 16:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | virtualbox builds virtualbox-dkms and virtualbox-guest-dkms kernel modules, and I have to adapt them to make them working/buildable | 16:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | e.g. I did this some days ago | 16:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/293649507/virtualbox_5.1.8-dfsg-6build1_5.1.8-dfsg-7~build1.diff.gz | 16:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | look for e.g. | 16:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | + #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(4, 8, 0) | 16:04 |
| LocutusOfBorg | + r = ttm_bo_move_memcpy(bo, evict, no_wait_gpu, new_mem); | 16:04 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ++#elif LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(4, 9, 0) | 16:04 |
| cyphermox | yeah API changes often break dkms | 16:04 |
| sil2100 | Right, so it's anyway a case where you're just fixing a breakage, so all good | 16:04 |
| LocutusOfBorg | yes, indeed | 16:04 |
| sil2100 | Ok, as for voting: | 16:05 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 16:05 |
| meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 16:05 |
| micahg | +1 | 16:07 |
| meetingology | +1 received from micahg | 16:07 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 16:07 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 16:07 |
| rbasak | +1 | 16:07 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 16:07 |
| rbasak | #endvote | 16:07 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Grant LocutusOfBorg core dev | 16:07 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 16:07 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 16:07 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks :) | 16:08 |
| rbasak | LocutusOfBorg: congratulations, and thank you for looking after Ubuntu for us! | 16:08 |
| mapreri | \o/ | 16:08 |
| mapreri | LocutusOfBorg: really, ^5 ! | 16:08 |
| sil2100 | LocutusOfBorg: congrats! | 16:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks :D | 16:08 |
| rbasak | LocutusOfBorg: to be clear, what I think we were looking for is that you understand that though the virtualbox fix is obviously needed, from a process perspective it is that it is a bugfix that allows you to upload after feature freeze without release team approval, not just because it's obviously appropriate. | 16:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | rbasak, yes I got it | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | +1 on rbasak's statement | 16:09 |
| rbasak | LocutusOfBorg: we were just struggling a little to hear that from you, but I think we all concluded that you understood that in the end :) | 16:10 |
| LocutusOfBorg | :) I try to find the best tradeoff between breaking changes and bugfixes, it isn't always a clear line, but I ask when in doubt | 16:11 |
| rbasak | action rbasak to announce LocutusOfBoar'd core dev status | 16:11 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to add LocutusOfBorg to ~ubuntu-core-dev | 16:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to add LocutusOfBorg to ~ubuntu-core-dev | 16:11 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ta | 16:11 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to announce LocutusOfBoar'd core dev status | 16:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to announce LocutusOfBoar'd core dev status | 16:11 |
| rbasak | s/Boar/Borg/ Sorry! | 16:11 |
| LocutusOfBorg | :) | 16:11 |
| rbasak | #topic Request to add gce-compute-image-packages to the ubuntu-cloud packageset | 16:12 |
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| rbasak | philroche: o/ | 16:13 |
| philroche | rbasak: o/ | 16:13 |
| rbasak | Sorry we didn't address this on the ML already. | 16:13 |
| philroche | np | 16:13 |
| rbasak | I'm surprised that the package isn't seeded. | 16:14 |
| rbasak | And nor is it in main. But it's installed by default? | 16:14 |
| rbasak | That should have no bearing on packageset membership though. | 16:15 |
| philroche | This is a new package. The previous incarnation, gce_utils [1], was in proposed. [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gce-utils | 16:15 |
| philroche | *is in proposed | 16:15 |
| rbasak | I think your request is obviously correct now that I've looked, so +1 for the packageset change, and we don't need a vote. | 16:15 |
| philroche | Super. Thanks | 16:16 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to add gce-compute-image-packages to the ubuntu-cloud packageset | 16:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to add gce-compute-image-packages to the ubuntu-cloud packageset | 16:16 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure it's in the right place though. Perhaps a question for the release team. | 16:16 |
| josvaz__ | thanks Robbie! | 16:17 |
| rbasak | philroche: is the package in cloud images today? | 16:17 |
| philroche | rbasak: It is in Yakkety dailies images for GCE | 16:18 |
| rbasak | OK, I'll raise that separately, thanks. Not a DMB thing. | 16:18 |
| rbasak | #topic Any other business | 16:18 |
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| rbasak | I'd like to raise two things. | 16:18 |
| rbasak | 1) Requests in the ML not yet addressed; 2) Meeting dates over the Christmas period. | 16:19 |
| rbasak | I see GunnarHj's request and cpaelzer's request in the ML not yet addressed. I'd be happy to take both of these. | 16:20 |
| rbasak | But we should probably have a section in the agenda to check for these. Any objections to me adding that? | 16:20 |
| rbasak | For future meetings, the next meeting on 5 December should I think be fine. | 16:21 |
| rbasak | 19 December seems unlikely to get quorum and currently has no applications. | 16:21 |
| rbasak | Same for 2 Jan. | 16:22 |
| rbasak | So I propose we drop those two, and next meet on 16 Jan, unless anyone objects (now or later). | 16:22 |
| rbasak | I guess that means nobody objects. | 16:23 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to address GunnarHj's im-config yakkety question on the ML | 16:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to address GunnarHj's im-config yakkety question on the ML | 16:23 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to address cpaelzer's dovecot-antispam ubuntu-server packageset request on the ML | 16:24 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to address cpaelzer's dovecot-antispam ubuntu-server packageset request on the ML | 16:24 |
| rbasak | #agreed Skip meetings on 19 December and 2 January unless anyone objects now or in the future | 16:25 |
| rbasak | #agreed Add "Unaddressed ML requests" to the meeting agenda | 16:25 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 16:25:38 2016 UTC. | 16:25 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-11-21-15.03.moin.txt | 16:25 |
| tyhicks | hello | 16:31 |
| tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Nov 21 16:31:51 2016 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:31 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:31 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 16:31 |
| tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:31 |
| tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:32 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:32 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| tyhicks | jdstrand: you're up | 16:32 |
| jdstrand | hey | 16:32 |
| jdstrand | very short week this week. I'm working on the dbus interface for snappy primarily | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | I will finish up a small PR to snap-confine | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | and do various PR reviews | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | if I have time, I'll start poking at network-namespace | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | that is it from me | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | (I'm off Wed-Fri) | 16:34 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on community this week | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | I just published imagemagick updates | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | and I have a couple of other updates to test | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | and then will pick something else off the list, that's about it | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | hrm, | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | s beattie isn't here I think...who's next? | 16:35 |
| tyhicks | me | 16:36 |
| tyhicks | short week for me this week (off thursday and friday) | 16:36 |
| tyhicks | I'm on cve triage | 16:36 |
| tyhicks | I have an embargoed issue | 16:36 |
| tyhicks | I still need to do the apparmor 14.04 SRU followups | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | I have some ecryptfs issues to look at | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | inode timestamps issue (LP: #1636890) | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1636890 in linux (Ubuntu) "invalid file times with overlayroot and encrypted home" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1636890 | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | crypto api usage issue | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | and I have some work planning work to do | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:37 |
| jjohansen | I am working on bugs, upstreaming and I have an apparmor rebase for 4.9-rc7 to do | 16:38 |
| jjohansen | I am still chasing down a couple of reference counting bugs | 16:38 |
| tyhicks | another rebase is needed for a change this late in the cycle? | 16:39 |
| jjohansen | and waiting for feedback on the lxc cross ns issue, and the rawdata interface, so I may endup working on those well | 16:40 |
| jjohansen | tyhicks: yes, linus pulled in my patch to upstream changehat which breaks the patches for the ubuntu kernel | 16:40 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand, jjohansen: I just noticed that kernel SRU bug #1634753 is needing verification in trusty | 16:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1634753 in AppArmor "srcname from mount rule corrupted under load" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1634753 | 16:40 |
| jjohansen | its nothing major, but I want to have the rebase ready for the kt | 16:40 |
| tyhicks | ok | 16:41 |
| jjohansen | tyhicks: ack I look into that | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | hmm, that bug is going to be difficult to verify on trusty | 16:41 |
| jjohansen | its a short week for me I am off wed - mon | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | sarnold: you're up | 16:42 |
| sarnold | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:42 |
| sarnold | I'd like to finish libsmbios before the holidays | 16:42 |
| sarnold | but I'm also working on 1642386 which feels like a higher priority (I don't know how many people are affected, but it does seem to be more than just me) | 16:43 |
| sarnold | that's it for me, chrisccoulson? | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | I've got an oxide update to get out this week | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | I've also got 3 build failures I need to fix | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | Other than that, I plan to make some progress on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oxide/+spec/ubuntu-webview-implementation, which I didn't manage last week because of another bug | 16:45 |
| chrisccoulson | That's me done | 16:45 |
| ratliff | I'm in the happy place this week and off on Thursday and Friday | 16:45 |
| ratliff | I am working on a number of internal communication, coordination and planning activities. | 16:45 |
| ratliff | I am also continuing to work on my universe project as time permits. There are over 900 CVE/release combos that are marked needed or needs-triage that are noted as fixed in the debian changelog | 16:46 |
| ratliff | back to you tyhicks | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/wine-gecko2.21.html | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/geshi.html | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sun-javadb.html | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libmodplug.html | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/nsd.html | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:47 |
| teward | Nope just want to give my quarterly applause to the Security Team for their ongoing hard work :) | 16:47 |
| sarnold | thanks teward :) | 16:49 |
| tyhicks | yse, thanks teward :) | 16:50 |
| tyhicks | yes* | 16:50 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand, mdeslaur, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks! | 16:50 |
| tyhicks | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Nov 21 16:50:33 2016 UTC. | 16:50 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-11-21-16.31.moin.txt | 16:50 |
| mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks ! | 16:50 |
| ratliff | thanks tyhicks! and thanks teward! | 16:51 |
| sarnold | thanks tyhicks! | 16:51 |
| jjohansen | thanks tyhicks | 16:53 |
| jdstrand | thanks tyhicks :) | 16:59 |
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