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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> acheronuk, wxl, santa_: We need to find a time to get things in Backports Landing and discuss.00:52
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Doodle?00:52
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Or you guys have a time in mind?00:53
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Working tomorrow and Wednesday after school but Thursday I have no school or work00:53
wxlcrap.00:53
wxlhow much you got left in you today, acheronuk ?00:54
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It SHOULD have been tonight...00:54
wxlwell it would have been if acheronuk would have responded earlier and then i wouldn't have got involved in other stuff XD00:54
wxlso you can blame us tsimonq2 00:54
acheronukwxl: nearly 1am here, so I'm zzzzzzzzzzz very shortly00:57
ahoneybunsleep acheronuk00:59
wxltsimonq2: do you know enough that we can do some work without acheronuk ?00:59
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Well if we wanted to make decisions without them...01:01
wxlsigh01:01
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Le sigh01:01
wxlacheronuk: what do you think? tsimonq2 and i try to forge ahead without ya'll or wait until he has less time? i do have a potential sponsor for the morning your time01:03
acheronukforge ahead on what?01:03
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Making sure things are ready to upload01:04
wxlacheronuk: ^^01:04
wxlif i understood tsimonq2, namely focus on plasma, frameworks, so we can eventually update the backports01:05
acheronukdo you know what needs sorting?01:05
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kajongg build #78: STILL FAILING in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kajongg/78/01:05
acheronukare you talking archive or backports?01:05
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Archive then Backports01:05
ahoneybunwell we could do backports first since it does not need uploading01:06
wxlahoneybun: that's what i said, but tsimonq2 said the process has always been to get it in archive first01:07
wxlahoneybun: and sil2100 did say he would be willing to help with uploads tomorrow morning utc time01:07
ahoneybunwell we've never been shorthanded on upload powers before01:07
wxlright01:07
wxlwe'll get there01:07
ahoneybunwe will 01:07
* wxl pokes acheronuk (jokingly. kind of..) XD01:07
acheronuksanta was looking at an issue the archive upload will have with libqalculate deps? has he sorted that?01:07
ahoneybunbut I think if we can get some new toys to Xenial people will be happier01:08
wxlsanta_: do you know of what acheronuk speaks of above re: libqalculate deps?01:08
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yes that's been upgraded to almost Super Urgent status.01:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It's at Urgent now.01:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Plus wxl I know you hate Linux Mint but everything we upload to Backports for Xenial goes there01:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It's enabled by default in the KDE edition01:09
wxltsimonq2: does that mean "yes, that is sorted" or "no, but it will be" or something else?01:10
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> acheronuk said that people are getting unhappy with old KDE01:10
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hm? I'm talking about age of software in Backports01:10
wxli really think that someone should make pronouns illegal in irc01:11
ahoneybunwell 5.6 is not amazing for dual monitors01:11
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> That01:12
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And so much more01:12
wxl /kick * tsimonq2 01:12
wxlooops :)01:12
ahoneybunanyway, if we can do some archive stuff tomorrow we should but after that backports as we can work on that anytime for yakkety at lease01:12
ahoneybun*least 01:12
ahoneybunsince it needs a new Qt in Xenial01:12
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Of course01:12
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acheronukI think I would be happier having a talk with santa to check the status on the deps and autotests before anyone thinks of pulling the trigger on archive uploads01:16
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wxlok01:17
acheronukI kept missing people today01:17
acheronuksadly01:17
wxlin that case i think we'll need to make a Doodle for our next sprint01:17
wxlbased on that, i'll see what i can do for finding us an uploader01:18
wxlbringing this all up in an email to the list might do better in potentially getting us other help, too01:18
acheronukyes01:18
wxlso since tsimonq2 wants something to do, now he has an assignment :)01:18
acheronukI've tested backports in VMs on YY and XX and mint, so they should be fairly ok to go in landing 01:19
acheronukplasma-discover on XX is the only issue, as that requires backport of appstrean, packagekit and aptdaemon to go with it01:21
acheronukand that makes me a bit nervous, and will need testing....01:22
* wxl nods01:22
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acheronukmaybe give clem from mint a heads up as well. they may want to help test when we get stuff in landing01:24
acheronukhehe. with PIM on KCI, that gives a fair bit to do tomorrow!01:27
acheronukmaybe we can get together afternoon your time = evening my time and settle some of that?01:28
acheronukbut for now, it's night night I think....01:29
* acheronuk goes ZZZZZzzzzz.....01:29
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ahoneybunyay ovidiu-florin got his package01:51
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tsimonq2Bug triage time!03:18
tsimonq2Marking bug 1640450 as invalid, encouraging the reporter to reopen if that's not what they were getting at.03:19
* DarinMiller grabs can of RAID03:19
ubottubug 1640450 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "Missing debug symbols package for plasma-workspace" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164045003:19
valorietsimonq2: but when there is a crash, the debug packages are not found03:22
valorieso indeed they Are Missing03:23
valorienot that plasma crashes for me03:23
tsimonq2Bug 1629543 looks awfully familiar to a bug I've seen before, I replied asking for more information.03:23
ubottubug 1629543 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDE does not start when using lightdm" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162954303:23
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> lightdm has an issues with KDE03:24
tsimonq2I'm subscribing to all the bug reports I touch, just in case I make a mistake and someone points it out or responds regardless. :)03:24
tsimonq2@ahoneybun: Is there an existing bug report already? If not, could you please respond to that one?03:24
tsimonq2valorie: So then how do you suggest that is solved?03:25
ahoneybunI've mostly heard issues tbh03:25
valorieI haven't a clue, but that has hit me over and over03:25
ahoneybunit's more of a user issue since when installing KDE with Unity or Unity with KDE03:25
valoriesomehow we need to get our debug packages found by dr konqui03:25
ahoneybunyou have to select which one to use03:26
valorieno03:26
valorieI've never done that03:26
valoriekonversation keeps crashing on me if I close it (which is weird) -- but no debug packages are found03:27
tsimonq2Please nobody touch anything related to bug 1598871, it's Lubuntu Next related and that's a direct issue with something I did.03:27
ubottubug 1598871 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "package plasma-workspace (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: a(z) „/usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop” felülírási kísérlete, amely a(z) lubuntu-extra-sessions 0.46 csomagban is szerepel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159887103:27
valorienext time it happens I'll try to file a bug03:27
ahoneybuntsimonq2: http://support.system76.com/articles/desktop-environment/03:27
tsimonq2ahoneybun: Please respond to the bug report appropriately then.03:28
ahoneybunI have no input about that03:28
tsimonq2Ninja eyes on bug 1636869?03:28
ubottubug 1636869 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "Plasmashell polling on zero timeout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163686903:28
tsimonq2valorie: You know off hand what version of Frameworks we shipped in Xenial?03:29
valorieno03:29
tsimonq2Ok, thanks anyways.03:29
ahoneybun5.20? I think03:30
valoriemaybe our release announcement says03:30
tsimonq2No, 5.18.03:31
tsimonq2Eek!03:31
ahoneybunframeworkintegration5.18.0-0ubuntu103:31
ahoneybunyep03:31
tsimonq2Bug 158923003:31
ubottubug 1589230 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "Continuous crash if mouse repeatedly hovers tas k manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158923003:31
ahoneybunthat other user has 1 cpu03:31
ahoneybunso kinda tough for that thing to handle Plasma03:32
tsimonq2Too bad, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever we shouldn't fix it.03:32
valoriemy little old travel laptop with an Atom was fine with 16.0403:32
ahoneybunhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35789503:33
ubottuKDE bug 357895 in tooltips "Regression: KDE Plasma with KF 5.18 crash, if mouse repeatedly hovers over TaskManager" [Crash,Resolved: fixed]03:33
ahoneybuntsimonq2: ^03:33
tsimonq2Yuuuuuuuuup03:34
tsimonq2All I have to do is backport it then I think.03:34
tsimonq2Am I wrong?03:34
tsimonq2valorie: So my question then is, why in the hell did we not notice this before?!? Jeeeeeez...03:36
tsimonq2Harumph :/03:36
ahoneybunmm cuz there are a lot of bugs and little people?03:36
valorienotice what in particular?03:36
tsimonq2Probably ahoneybun 03:37
tsimonq2valorie: The bug above. :)03:37
valorieI've been trying to reproduce it, without success03:37
ahoneybunI don't get bug reports soo03:37
tsimonq2valorie: So with a *fresh* Kubuntu 16.04 install? No point releases no updates? Then you tried again after doing all the updates and rebooting?03:38
valoriethat says plasma 5.18 -- that is not a fresh install03:38
tsimonq2If it was clear enough to get fixed, it's clear enough to reproduce. ™03:38
tsimonq2Plasma or Frameworks?03:39
tsimonq2Because Frameworks makes total sense.03:39
tsimonq2If you don't have the time to reproduce it, I'll happily do it. ;)03:39
tsimonq2valorie: ^03:40
valorieI don't, if it isn't this box03:40
valoriewhich it seems it is not03:40
valoriealso it seems to be a Plasma bug, not ours03:40
ahoneybunI have a VM with no Backports03:41
tsimonq2ahoneybun: And Kubuntu 16.04? A fresh install with no point releases?03:41
ahoneybunwell no03:41
ahoneybun16.04.1 is on the servers so I grabbed that03:41
ahoneybunwell if it is the 16.04.0 install then they should just update to the .1 releaes then03:42
tsimonq2ahoneybun: Well if it's that simple we should note as such.03:42
tsimonq2wxl: Please help triage bug 1589230 when you have a minute.03:42
ubottubug 1589230 in plasma-framework (Ubuntu) "Continuous crash if mouse repeatedly hovers task manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158923003:42
tsimonq2He's been doing this for longer than I have, he knows Absolutely All The Steps™. :P03:43
tsimonq2Moving on...03:43
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ahoneybunmm Akonadi crashed on startup03:46
tsimonq2Can someone with more than one monitor please confirm (or disprove) bug 1575653 and see if they can hunt down an appropriate bug in the KDE bug tracker? Where there's a bug in software this old, there should be a fix.03:46
ubottubug 1575653 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "Plasma 5.5.5 breaks on multi-monitor when the displays go into standby" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157565303:46
valorietsimonq2: as far as I know, that's only fixed with the latest Qt03:47
valoriemulti-monitor has been broken for almost a year because of that Qt regression03:47
ahoneybunwell I can tell you 5.7 and up it work fine03:47
ahoneybun*works03:48
ahoneybunI can't use KMail to setup opengpg for LP...03:48
tsimonq2valorie: Link to the Qt bug?03:49
tsimonq2Looks like with bug 1585465, they used the KCI Unstable PPA... >__<03:50
ubottubug 1585465 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "plasmashell crashed with SIGSEGV in QMetaObject::activate()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158546503:50
tsimonq2Marked as Incomplete for now.03:50
tsimonq2Could somebody please reproduce bug 1580767?03:51
ubottubug 1580767 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "Plasma panel displays closed window borders badly in Breeze theme at certain heights" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158076703:51
valoriehttps://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/07/multi-screen-woes-in-plasma-5-7/ and other stuff too03:51
valorieI'll look for a Qt br03:51
tsimonq2Then if you upgrade to Kubuntu 16.10, does it still have those issues?03:51
ahoneybunwow from 9.04?03:51
tsimonq2I can find a fix if it's an issue in Kubuntu 16.04 but not 16.10.03:52
tsimonq2Yeah. :)03:52
ahoneybunthat would be a major issue03:52
ahoneybunmoving from anything KDE 4 to Plasma 5 is bumpy03:52
valorieit has been a major issue for ~one year03:52
ahoneybunwell time to go to bed03:53
tsimonq2ahoneybun: But I mean if we can try to reproduce, it's worth the effort, right?03:53
tsimonq2If we can't, then we can't. Ask for more clarification.03:54
ahoneybunI don't think so tbh03:54
tsimonq2Ok, wot? Bug 158121303:54
ubottubug 1581213 in plasma-workspace (Ubuntu) "xembedsniproxy fails bad with java apps (jitsi)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158121303:54
ahoneybunohhh that03:55
tsimonq2*I* am even unsure what OP is talking about.03:55
tsimonq2ahoneybun: Yes? :)03:55
ahoneybunsystem tray icons03:55
tsimonq2Yes, those little things. What about it? :)03:55
ahoneybunhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36762703:55
valoriexembed etc is so that various non-KDE apps will have icons03:55
ubottuKDE bug 367627 in System Tray "Missing systray icon from application" [Normal,Unconfirmed]03:55
tsimonq2Bah03:58
tsimonq2If I whip up a package, can somebody test? It would revert That One Commit he's talking about.03:58
tsimonq2749f60b89f4a166833fb64a5b593a801f63f961503:58
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valoriehttps://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-20451?jql=text%20~%20%22multi-screen%22 gives 37 results04:06
valoriedon't have time to match them up to that LP br04:06
tsimonq2Ok fair enough04:07
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!04:22
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!04:22
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_sddm-kcm build #117: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_sddm-kcm/117/04:22
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_baloo build #173: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_baloo/173/04:22
tsimonq2Ok nini o/04:25
DarinMillergn o/ tsimonq204:29
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:51
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:51
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:51
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:51
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:51
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kblocks build #172: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kblocks/172/05:51
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:52
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kbreakout build #172: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kbreakout/172/05:52
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!05:59
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kig build #142: FIXED in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kig/142/05:59
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!06:01
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-framework build #27: FIXED in 21 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-framework/27/06:01
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!08:54
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!08:55
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!08:55
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:08
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:22
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kompare build #242: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kompare/242/09:22
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:22
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:22
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kompare build #174: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kompare/174/09:22
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:30
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:31
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:37
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!09:37
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kajongg build #82: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kajongg/82/09:37
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acheronukmorning :)11:51
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BluesKajHey folks12:15
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santa_morning13:14
santa_wxl, acheronuk: fyi I'm working on syncing some packages with the archive13:14
santa_specifically plasma-discover, plasma-desktop and plasma-workspace13:15
acheronukok. I knew they had some changes, and just saw your new checking script, so "good stuff" :)13:16
santa_ok, so13:17
santa_plasma-discover -> updated in git and ppas (let's hope I didn't broke it)13:18
santa_plasma-desktop -> nevermind is just a no-change rebuild https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop13:18
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Hai guys13:19
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santa_plasma-workspace -> same as -desktop, just no-change rebuilds https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace13:21
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acheronukGrr. I need to get that appstream backport into the Xenial staging and KCI ppas for plasma-discover13:22
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santa_acheronuk: I would say go ahead to the upload to the appstream backport to staging13:23
santa_if anything we can allways fix later13:23
acheronukI will shortly then....13:23
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* santa_ checked frameworks against the archive, everything seems in sync14:23
acheronuk:)14:26
santa_acheronuk: ah, I almost forget about this https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/11/18/%23ubuntu-release.html#t14:3114:27
santa_that's the chat I had about qalculate with the release team14:28
santa_so tl;dr we need a fixed qalculate package in order to not get our dist-upgrades broken14:28
santa_so whoever uploads plasma 5.8.3 must upload a fixed qalculate to zesty14:29
santa_I will take care of advocating our fix, or asking for a better alternative to our sponsor14:29
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* acheronuk waits for soee 14:34
acheronuktick tock14:35
acheronukoh well... -> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.4.php14:35
mamarleySo does that mean you will go ahead and stage 5.8.4 and work on getting that uploaded instead?14:38
santa_that's worth a think14:39
mamarleyI think FW 5.28 is also out.14:39
* acheronuk goes to look at the plasma schedule14:39
santa_I would suggest to wait a couple of days to move our stuff to -landing and then move on to the new versions14:40
santa_acheronuk: do we have anything pending to do that?14:40
santa_to move stuff to backports -landing14:40
acheronukplasma 5.8.5 is due 27th December, so a fair gap now. I am tempted with 5.8.4....14:41
mamarley+114:42
acheronuksanta_: let me think. as long as -landing gets some decent testing, I don't think I can see an issue with moving current stuff there14:44
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acheronukI wonder if -landing has enough ppa space to get plasma, FW and apps for Xenial, plus plasma and FW for yakkety in?14:46
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IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> We need to ping Clem from Linux Mint then to help us test once we move things to Backports15:16
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> I am on the Mint -dev channel15:16
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> You tell him?15:19
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> I'll join there on IRC later15:19
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> So Plasma 5.8.4 was released...15:20
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> not yet. as I didn't want to say we are going to be doing x, y & z, and then it not happen!15:20
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Argh :/15:20
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> yep :P15:20
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> So as soon as we Backport and get things in the archive we'll have to do it all over. Jeeeeeez15:21
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> @tsimonq2, Err.... that is pretty normal with KDE's release schedules15:22
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> always running to catch up15:22
soee_acheronuk: sorry missed that, I've been at the doctor :(15:46
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wxldidnt' see any email last night? have we figured out a plan?16:56
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wxl!info plasma-workspace xenial-updates17:24
ubottu'xenial-updates' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed, zesty, zesty-b17:24
wxl!info plasma-workspace xenial-backports17:25
ubottuPackage plasma-workspace does not exist in xenial-backports17:25
wxl!info plasma-workspace xenial17:25
ubottuplasma-workspace (source: plasma-workspace): Plasma Workspace for KF5. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.5.5.2-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 7154 kB, installed size 33045 kB17:25
wxl!info plasma-workspace zesty17:25
ubottuplasma-workspace (source: plasma-workspace): Plasma Workspace for KF5. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.7.5-0ubuntu1 (zesty), package size 6745 kB, installed size 32611 kB17:25
wxl!info plasma-workspace yakkety17:25
ubottuplasma-workspace (source: plasma-workspace): Plasma Workspace for KF5. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.7.5-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 6745 kB, installed size 32611 kB17:25
wxli see17:25
wxltsimonq2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace/+bug/1589230 needs testing. from what i can tell from the upstream bug, the problem is in 5.5.3 which is < 5.5.5.2. worse yet, it will be difficult to make an SRU out of this without forcing LTS users to use 5.7.5. not sure of what potential for problems there is with that.17:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589230 in plasma-framework (Ubuntu) "Continuous crash if mouse repeatedly hovers task manager" [Undecided,New]17:34
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wxlwhat's the login for the kubuntu live cd?18:58
wxli figured (k)ubuntu/(k)ubuntu, but neither work18:58
marco-parilloI use kubuntu and hit enter for the password19:01
wxlthat did it19:01
wxlthx marco-parillo :)19:01
marco-parilloNote in some ISOs there was a problem that the Plasma screen lock engaged during installation.19:01
wxlo19:02
wxloops19:02
wxltrying to use 16.04.1 in xenial19:02
wxlexcept failed to load vboxvideo19:02
wxlugh19:02
marco-parilloI wonder if that is related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/162734819:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1627348 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Live DVD boots to black screen with mouse pointer" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:06
wxloh weird19:13
wxli switched from tty back to the gui and everything's normal19:14
wxli'm running this on just a wee bit of ram so that might have been the issue19:14
wxlwell, in the sense that the issue is impatience XD19:16
wxlmarco-parillo: that's bug is on the final release? cuz that sucks, especially as it seems to affect real hardware, too.19:17
wxlmust be specific to particular hardware, i'd imagine, otherwise we'd hear more complaining19:18
marco-parilloFor me it is only in VMware and Virtual Box guests. It worked fine on real HW.19:18
wxlwell others complained about real hardware19:19
wxlcould https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1561051 be related?19:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1561051 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity-DM dies on Kubuntu images" [Critical,Fix released]19:19
wxlunfortunately yofel wasn't very explicit in that report so it's hard to say19:19
marco-parilloRight. I guess it is tough to debug when it 'works for me'19:20
wxlyeah19:20
wxland that bug seems to have been "fixed" before the release if i'm looking at the dates right19:20
wxlholy confusion19:20
wxlhardware on your bug is TravelMate 290 Hardware19:21
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ahoneybunmm so Plasma 5.8.4 has a few Multimonitor fixes20:21
* ahoneybun donates to KDE e.V20:23
ahoneybunhttps://www.kde.org/fundraisers/yearend2016/#donorlist20:23
ahoneybun\o/20:23
* ahoneybun wants to throw more...20:23
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blazeplasma is still the worst at multiple monitor support20:44
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IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I find that its getting better20:50
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acheronuktsimonq2: take care on epochs https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/blogilo/commit/?id=63635ecec71637c82d5e71a870b6ef18d4c2d8b023:23
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wxlacheronuk: i saw epochs mentioned in clive's email and not sure i grok it.23:33
wxlespecially when i look at his particular area of concern: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/commit/?h=kubuntu_zesty_archive&id=5bbb53e6524f702ae324cc9da6e69270e719379f23:33
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wxlassumedly in 4:16.11.80-0ubuntu1, 4 is the epoch, 0ubuntu1 is the DEB_VERSION while 16.11.80 is the UPSTREAM_REVISION23:37
wxlstill i'm not sure i understand the concept of epoch23:38
acheronukwell, plasma-discover was a new package a while back, so it had no epoch. but those transitional packages on muon-discover/notifier/updater need to replace the muon ones that did have an epoch23:38
wxlyes yes but what's an epoch? :)23:39
acheronukso as they don't get one from the package version in the changelog, those overrides do the job23:39
acheronukoh. right23:39
acheronukwxl: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version23:41
wxlacheronuk: thanks for the reminder to read that23:41
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acheronukbut basically, a package with a higher epoch will superseded one with a lower epoch, no matter the rest of the version string23:42
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valorieas it was explained to me, it is a way to fix up bad versioning mistakes23:43
valoriebut it has a cost, since it must then always be carried forward23:43
acheronukyep, and to be avoided if at all possible. but #### happens23:43
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wxlthx for the explanation23:45
wxli actually encountered this before and understood the logic but at that time no one called it by its proper name23:45
valorie'cuz it's epic23:46
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acheronukin this case, as the epoch from the previous version of the package got forgotten, I could not easily install the KCI version of blogilo in my VM. as dpkg saw it as a lower version than the one in the archive that had a 4: epoch23:47
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wxlright right23:48
acheronukwxl: ah. missed the comment above, so basically you knew but not that it was called that. ok. :)23:49
wxlright :)23:49
wxladmittedly it's a fairly rare case that needs it23:49
valorieless rare than we would like23:50
acheronukwe have more than we really want in the kde packaging!23:50
wxlXD23:50
wxlsooooo we never got that email from tsimonq2 did we?23:52
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