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SporkWitch | valorie: you got me yelled at :P | 00:58 |
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valorie | sounds like a bit of a debate indeed | 01:00 |
SporkWitch | i'm with you; it's the LTS, fix that shit | 01:00 |
valorie | you called attention to a *problem* and I hope that will be fixed one way or another | 01:00 |
* valorie goes off to dinner | 01:00 | |
SporkWitch | whatever his opinions, they're bundling packages that are broken without it | 01:00 |
SporkWitch | most importantly, it's a problem that only really affects the very users who are not likely to be able or willing to FIGURE OUT the workaround or fix | 01:01 |
Eli2_ | wow | 01:35 |
Eli2_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 01:35 |
Eli2_ | should be more prominently on the homepage | 01:35 |
Eli2_ | especially the note about upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 | 01:35 |
Eli2_ | upgrading "should not be attempted" ! | 01:36 |
krytarik | Eli2_: It's in here too though: http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement/ | 01:38 |
doyle | Hey. What version of plasma and qt does the latest kubuntu ship with? | 01:38 |
Eli2_ | krytarik, did not read that page before pressing that upgrade button | 01:39 |
Eli2_ | :/ | 01:40 |
Eli2_ | are there any plans to make it work properly | 01:41 |
Eli2_ | i have kubuntu on some family computers where i don't really want to reinstall | 01:41 |
krytarik | The main problem is the Plasma 4 → 5 switch there. | 01:42 |
krytarik | So I don't think it'll ever work, no. | 01:42 |
Eli2_ | hmmm, ok | 01:46 |
doyle | Hey. How can I get plasma 5.8.x installed? Is there a --enablerepo=updates-testing type flag for apt/ | 02:37 |
doyle | ? | 02:37 |
Eli2_ | doyle, from what i read you might have to wait for 17.04 to get it in a stable way | 02:49 |
Eli2_ | maybe before that in the backports repo | 02:49 |
[Relic] | that's a weird one playing a full screen game changes the time | 02:52 |
doyle | Thanks Eli2_ | 02:54 |
[Relic] | not sure why playing a game screws up the digital clock; not even sure what I would be looking for in settings to fix that either | 02:55 |
[Relic] | and even more bizarre the games get "discover" as the taskbar item and then the FF icon goes to 2 icons :( | 02:58 |
[Relic] | think I shall reboot and see if that clears it up | 02:59 |
doyle | Man. Even the yakkety-proposed has failed me. The closest I can get to two 4k monitors off a thunderbolt 3 port is Fedora KDE Spin with plasma from updates-testing | 03:06 |
[Relic] | all cleared up :) | 03:11 |
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IrcsomeBot | reguard was added by: reguard | 03:43 |
[Relic] | weird that annoying time clock modifier thing is back | 05:55 |
drex | hello i have installed kubuntu on asus r558uf and trackpad is not working. what to do? i already tried booting with i8042.reset and i8042.nomux=1 but no luck still its not working. please help? | 07:00 |
drex | ps i am using kubuntu 16.04 lts | 07:01 |
hateball | drex: it's not disabled with a hardware switch either? | 07:02 |
hateball | drex: looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/763584/elantech-touchpad-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-and-arch-linux someone used "i8042.kbdreset=1" instead | 07:03 |
drex | hateball: i tried i8042.kbdreset=1 also its not working | 07:04 |
drex | hateball: and hardware switch is on | 07:04 |
drex | external mouse is working and also first time it worked but after reboot its not working | 07:05 |
hateball | drex: hmmm, sorry I dont know anything about this issue really. You could try asking in #ubuntu also, since it's got more people and it's a kernel issue | 07:07 |
drex | ok i will try there thanks for the info | 07:07 |
SporkWitch | hateball: if you see him come back, have him try booting with acpi disabled. Hopefully that's not it, but that is something I saw once with a Toshiba laptop and ubuntu (issues were worse with other distros, but at least with ubuntu the only issue was the touchpad wouldn't work unless you disabled ACPI features) | 07:37 |
hateball | SporkWitch: cheers | 07:54 |
SporkWitch | mind you that issue was back in 2010 or 2011 | 07:57 |
SporkWitch | i've since made a point of buying sony laptops; nice standard parts, and i've yet to run into a single hardware compatibility issue with linux | 07:57 |
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lali | hi | 10:54 |
lordievader | o | 10:54 |
lordievader | o/ | 10:54 |
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yocs0000 | I have problem: I hve an external monitor connected and I can only show the content of the laptop screen, and not haev iit as a extension. Why? | 11:52 |
yocs0000 | Until two weeks ago I could! | 11:52 |
hateball | yocs0000: have you went into the monitor config (kscreen) and made sure the monitors are beside each other? | 11:53 |
hateball | if they are laying on top of each other, it will mirror | 11:53 |
yocs0000 | solved! | 11:55 |
yocs0000 | hateball: yes, that was the issue. :) | 11:57 |
yocs0000 | hateball: I tried your suggestion yesterday it froze my laptop .... :) | 11:58 |
hateball | yocs0000: refresh my memory | 12:00 |
hateball | yocs0000: for reference, all kscreen configs are in ~/.local/share/kscreen, one file for each monitor... so if things are ever super broken you can hop to a tty and delete those files for a fresh start | 12:01 |
IrcsomeBot1 | reguard was removed by: reguard | 12:01 |
yocs0000 | hateball: no, I was referring to the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to try out unity | 12:12 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:15 |
hateball | yocs0000: aha | 12:27 |
yocs0000 | hateball: I hated you a bit .... :D | 12:29 |
hateball | yocs0000: thats nice | 12:54 |
yocs0000 | hateball: but then hey, no pain no gain .... or so they say! :d | 13:34 |
IrcsomeBot1 | reguard was added by: reguard | 13:44 |
IrcsomeBot1 | reguard was removed by: reguard | 13:44 |
mcscruff | is there a way to stop my internet cutting out when my screen lock itself | 13:50 |
SporkWitch | separate issues, to a degree. sounds like the screen isn't locking, but rather the machine is sleeping | 13:51 |
SporkWitch | locking the screen, by itself, doesn't affect network connection | 13:52 |
mcscruff | it locked the screen to the login screen, maybe i caught it as it was going to sleep. i will play with power management and get it never to sleep on mains | 13:54 |
SporkWitch | that's what i'd recommend | 13:58 |
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shane777 | i'm using two separate keyboards and both need different key mappings. I stumbled across an app that handles this, but can't recall it. Anyone got any ideas? | 16:29 |
SporkWitch | why are you using different keyboards? why not just use the built-in support for multiple layouts and toggling between them? | 16:37 |
SporkWitch | it's right in the KDE settings | 16:37 |
shane777 | they're both connected at the same time - laptop + external | 17:31 |
SporkWitch | by why different layouts? | 17:39 |
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shane777 | not layouts | 18:20 |
shane777 | key mappings | 18:20 |
shane777 | laptop keyboard has pgup and pgdn where home and end should be | 18:20 |
shane777 | external keyboard was made by humans and is in the proper location | 18:20 |
wojtex | hello | 18:24 |
SporkWitch | shane777: so you're wanting, via software, to treat the pgup signal from the internal keyboard as home instead, but NOT do this for the external? | 18:26 |
shane777 | corret | 18:28 |
shane777 | correct | 18:28 |
shane777 | I think xkb may be what I was thinking of. Looking into that now | 18:29 |
SporkWitch | i don't know of anything that would behave in that way. your best bet would be to use the native tools to toggle mappings | 18:29 |
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xubuntu18w | hello | 21:13 |
xubuntu18w | ??? | 21:17 |
valorie | xubuntu18w: this is a help chan -- ask your question | 21:20 |
valorie | for chat, join the #kubuntu-offtopic | 21:20 |
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