| altker128 | Hey all. I'm running OTA-12 on my Nexus 4. I notice when using the phone the microphone gain is way too high and the sound distorts. Is there an "easy" way to adjust the microphone gain? | 00:46 |
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| cc | good afternoon! | 06:01 |
| cc | how can i install Andrews simulator on a ubuntu phone? | 06:01 |
| cc | how to do | 06:02 |
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| tsdgeos | is Mirv on hols or something? | 13:48 |
| davmor2 | tsdgeos: yeap back in January | 13:53 |
| tsdgeos | ouch | 13:54 |
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| Wieneke | When does ota-14 will been released? | 15:13 |
| Wieneke | Quit | 15:15 |
| Wieneke | bye | 15:16 |
| Wieneke | Exit | 15:16 |
| raph_ael | "eat flaming death" | 15:25 |
| davmor2 | raph_ael: why thanks I do most days how else do you eat your flame grilled burgers | 15:45 |
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| raph_ael | davmor2: it's an old joke about the editor ed https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html | 16:06 |
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| mterry | tedg: the 'unity8-session' snap is from developer 'ted' instead of 'canonical' -- we aught to change that, right? | 17:21 |
| nuboro | hello | 17:26 |
| nuboro | i would like to get ubuntu touch on a nexus 5X | 17:27 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, hey again, just a follow up moving back those libertine binaries to universe unblock the migration and it's in zesty now | 17:32 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Yes, I saw that. Thank you very much! | 17:32 |
| seb128 | yw! | 17:33 |
| mterry | tedg: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8-desktop-session/snap-install-idempotent/+merge/311520 | 17:34 |
| tedg | mterry: Wait, no, it's "ted" because that's my insurance, they can never fire me! </evil laugh> | 17:34 |
| tedg | mterry: We need to move the branch too. Like for instance only core-devs or the desktop-team should be able to edit the yaml as well. | 17:35 |
| tedg | mterry: So it needs some "governance formalization" at some point | 17:36 |
| tedg | mterry: You probably need to update the man page as well with the updated behavior. | 17:37 |
| tedg | mterry: In my experience, ChrisTownsend is a pain about that :-) | 17:38 |
| mterry | tedg: the man page doesn't have any conflicting information | 17:38 |
| mterry | tedg: only says "Install the Unity8 session snap with the proper arguments passed to the snap command" | 17:38 |
| tedg | Haha, I guess I was vague enough then ;-) | 17:38 |
| mterry | :) | 17:38 |
| tedg | Future-proof via uncertainty | 17:38 |
| mterry | future proofing | 17:38 |
| mterry | heh | 17:38 |
| ChrisTownsend | lol | 17:38 |
| ChrisTownsend | Not a stickler about the manpage for sure. Just wanted to shut lintian up. | 17:39 |
| mterry | tedg: I kinda wish that whole script was simply "snap install $@"... and have snap handle the different cases. But ah well | 17:39 |
| ChrisTownsend | Although bregma may have a problem with using bash in that script:) | 17:39 |
| mterry | oh yeah? I think I did that for easier coloring with echo. I know there's a posix way too, but I didn't think it mattered enough for me to look it up. But am happy to do so | 17:40 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Personally, it doesn't matter to me, but he's made comments about that before, but we'll wait on his feedback so he can speak for himself. | 17:41 |
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| mterry | ChrisTownsend: ok you bash-shamed me into fixing it | 17:52 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: lol, ok | 17:52 |
| mterry | tedg: is there a terminal snap already? | 17:57 |
| mterry | I couldn't guess its name | 17:57 |
| mterry | And I don't know how to find edge snaps besides just guessing | 17:57 |
| mterry | Oh I lied | 17:57 |
| mterry | I just didn't pass --devmode last time | 17:57 |
| mterry | *sigh* | 17:57 |
| tedg | mterry: Yes, that's a pain :-/ | 17:58 |
| tedg | mterry: echo gallery-app camera-app webbrowser-app address-book-app messaging-app dialer-app ubuntu-calendar-app ubuntu-clock-app ubuntu-filemanager-app ubuntu-terminal-app | xargs -n 1 snap install --edge --devmode | 17:58 |
| mterry | tedg: eh I was thinking just browser, terminal, and filemanager? | 17:59 |
| mterry | or do we want to do a full thing? | 17:59 |
| tedg | mterry: I don't have a strong opinion there. | 18:01 |
| tedg | bfiller: Do you have an idea on which apps should be included? | 18:01 |
| bfiller | tedg, I think all of them except for maybe not dialer and messaging which are useless on desktop currently | 18:02 |
| tedg | mterry: ^ | 18:02 |
| mterry | k | 18:02 |
| bfiller | we're working on Notes app snap so when that's done will be a good candidate too | 18:03 |
| bfiller | mterry, tedg : oh yeah musicplayer-app would be good as well, think that is in edge store | 18:03 |
| bfiller | mterry, and ubuntu-calculator-app | 18:05 |
| bfiller | I've heard dekko snap is available but haven't tried that either | 18:06 |
| bfiller | s/either/yet | 18:06 |
| mterry | bfiller: musicplayer-app doesn't seem to be in store | 18:12 |
| bfiller | ahayzen, ^^^ thought we uploaded this? can't remeber | 18:12 |
| ahayzen | bfiller, music-app was awaiting media-hub interface | 18:13 |
| bfiller | ahayzen, ok | 18:13 |
| bfiller | ahayzen, didn't we have it working in devmode? | 18:14 |
| ahayzen | and clarification of the mediascanner / media storage situation ... i got it working with mediascanner running inside my snap, but that probably needs to be higher up | 18:14 |
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| ahayzen | bfiller, hmmm i'd have to check, it might have been working in devmode but without media-hub | 18:14 |
| ahayzen | i seem to remember even in devmode it'd get confused where media-hub-server was to connect to | 18:15 |
| bfiller | mterry, is media-hub running in unity8 snap? | 18:15 |
| mterry | bfiller: yes | 18:16 |
| ahayzen | ok maybe i just need to try things again, as everything has moved on quite a bit since we last tried :-) | 18:16 |
| bfiller | mterry, do we know if it "works", as in all the path issues sorted with it? | 18:16 |
| mterry | bfiller: no sound or video is played... but it's running | 18:16 |
| mterry | bfiller: we don't believe it itself is problematic. Something with pulseaudio for sound. Video is just because it doesn't have a non-android video backend | 18:17 |
| bfiller | ahayzen, might be worth trying your snap version with mediascanner embedded in it in unity8 snap session to see where it falls short | 18:18 |
| bfiller | (once we can launch snaps again) | 18:18 |
| ahayzen | bfiller, yeah i'll see what i can do :-) | 18:19 |
| mterry | tedg: ok I just dropped terminal & contacts from built-in u8 snap. Figure we can just use snaps for those. I know we can't launch them quite yet, but that's coming | 18:21 |
| jhodapp | ahayzen, were you able to try with my new interface for media-hub? | 18:22 |
| jhodapp | ahayzen, I still am going through a review/fix cycle with the snapd team to get that landed | 18:22 |
| ahayzen | jhodapp, not yet, i was having trouble building it/the vm to run it in IIRC | 18:22 |
| jhodapp | ahayzen, yeah I had that too, that's why I ran it locally although I'd ping zyga about why it wasn't working in the VM as using it locally is dangerous if you value the stock snapd database :) | 18:23 |
| jhodapp | as I painfully discovered | 18:23 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, have you tried media-hub service in unity8 snap yet, without snapd interface? would be great to get that working | 18:24 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, I haven't, I've not tried out the unity8 snap at all myself yet | 18:25 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, if someone can give me a rundown of how it's not working (maybe file a bug for media-hub related to it), I can get that scheduled for our backlog | 18:26 |
| ahayzen | jhodapp, once i'm able to launch snaps inside the unity8 snap, i'll see what happens to the existing music-app snap (if it is able to find media-hub etc) and let you know | 18:31 |
| jhodapp | ahayzen, perfect...thanks | 18:32 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, according to mterry sounds like the issues maybe pulse related not specific to media-hub but it needs to be tested | 18:47 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, ok interesting...wouldn't be the first time we've had pulse issues ;) | 18:48 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, and what backend does media-hub use for video on desktop? need to make sure that is working | 18:48 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, it doesn't do hardware accelerated video decoding on the desktop yet | 18:48 |
| jhodapp | that's something we'll be starting for research this next sprint for my team | 18:49 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, will mediaplayer-app work in it's current state as it just uses QtMultimedia classes? not sure how that is plumbed into media-hub | 18:49 |
| bfiller | on desktop | 18:49 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, if you don't have qtubuntu-media installed, then mediaplayer-app will just use the QtMultimedia backend that directly uses gstreamer | 18:50 |
| jhodapp | it won't even touch media-hub | 18:50 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, ok cool | 18:50 |
| jhodapp | it'll play video software decoded as well | 18:50 |
| bfiller | renato__, ^^^ are you seeing this working? | 18:50 |
| renato__ | bfiller, this is what I am trying to test right now. I can confirm that is trying to use gst but I can not say that is able to play any video yet | 18:52 |
| renato__ | bfiller, it will use gst and gst has some hw decode too. right jhodapp ? | 18:53 |
| jhodapp | renato__, it can, depending on what codecs you have installed and your system hardware, but that's a big if | 18:53 |
| jhodapp | renato__, the new research story that my team will be doing is trying to solve this to make it as reliable as on the phone | 18:54 |
| jhodapp | it should just work for all reasonable/reference hardware | 18:54 |
| renato__ | jhodapp, would be nice to play more than one video on desktop | 18:54 |
| jhodapp | renato__, indeed, and also not have it kill your battery | 18:55 |
| renato__ | jhodapp, unity8 session install these pakcages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23518317/ | 18:55 |
| jhodapp | renato__, that looks good | 18:56 |
| renato__ | yes I think this is enough. I just need to find a way to open a video on unity8 snap | 18:56 |
| renato__ | :D | 18:56 |
| bfiller | renato__, I'm trying to figure that out for gallery as well. what dirs does it have access to? only under it's own area? | 18:57 |
| bfiller | or xdg? | 18:57 |
| renato__ | bfiller, it should have to Pictures (xdg) | 18:57 |
| bfiller | renato__, so mediaplayer has access to Videos then right? can't you put a video there to test? | 18:58 |
| renato__ | bfiller, mp does not scan for video as gallery does. | 18:58 |
| bfiller | renato__, the dialog should let you pick it | 18:59 |
| renato__ | bfiller, the dialog does not appear on a mir session. | 19:00 |
| bfiller | renato__, how come? | 19:00 |
| renato__ | bfiller, it checks if is running on a mir session and intead of file picker it shows the message dialog saying that you need to click on a video | 19:00 |
| bfiller | renato__, maybe change it to always show the dialog if launched without url | 19:01 |
| bfiller | should be safe | 19:02 |
| renato__ | bfiller, ok this I can do do easy | 19:02 |
| bfiller | at least lets test that and see how it works | 19:02 |
| jhodapp | renato__, good luck :) | 19:05 |
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| bfiller | jhodapp, is qtubuntu-media needed at all on desktop for audio? it's currently pulled into unity8 snap and think it's preventing video from playing via gstreamer | 21:07 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, it's only needed when you want audio/video to go through media-hub...without it you can still play audio/video, it just won't involve media-hub | 21:08 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, what if we want audio to go through hub but not video? | 21:09 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, currently not possible | 21:09 |
| jhodapp | that's because of the way QtMultimedia designed their classes | 21:10 |
| bfiller | jhodapp, whats the benefit of desktop using media-hub for audio? | 21:14 |
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| jhodapp | bfiller, coordination of playback sessions and being able to intelligently pause like on the phone as well as (eventually) hardware acceleration of video decoding | 21:30 |
| jhodapp | bfiller, also a confined separation between client and codec | 21:31 |
| mterry | tedg: so I want to add some legacy (non-Touch) apps to the snap, like libreoffice or firefox. Is there a magic hack to get them to launch as xmir apps? | 22:00 |
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