[00:46] Hey all. I'm running OTA-12 on my Nexus 4. I notice when using the phone the microphone gain is way too high and the sound distorts. Is there an "easy" way to adjust the microphone gain? === JanC is now known as Guest78373 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === salem_ is now known as _salem [06:01] good afternoon! [06:01] how can i install Andrews simulator on a ubuntu phone? [06:02] how to do === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === duflu_ is now known as duflu === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === boiko__ is now known as boiko [13:48] is Mirv on hols or something? [13:53] tsdgeos: yeap back in January [13:54] ouch === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:13] When does ota-14 will been released? [15:15] Quit [15:16] bye [15:16] Exit [15:25] "eat flaming death" [15:45] raph_ael: why thanks I do most days how else do you eat your flame grilled burgers === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:06] davmor2: it's an old joke about the editor ed https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [17:21] tedg: the 'unity8-session' snap is from developer 'ted' instead of 'canonical' -- we aught to change that, right? [17:26] hello [17:27] i would like to get ubuntu touch on a nexus 5X [17:32] ChrisTownsend, hey again, just a follow up moving back those libertine binaries to universe unblock the migration and it's in zesty now [17:32] seb128: Yes, I saw that. Thank you very much! [17:33] yw! [17:34] tedg: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8-desktop-session/snap-install-idempotent/+merge/311520 [17:34] mterry: Wait, no, it's "ted" because that's my insurance, they can never fire me! [17:35] mterry: We need to move the branch too. Like for instance only core-devs or the desktop-team should be able to edit the yaml as well. [17:36] mterry: So it needs some "governance formalization" at some point [17:37] mterry: You probably need to update the man page as well with the updated behavior. [17:38] mterry: In my experience, ChrisTownsend is a pain about that :-) [17:38] tedg: the man page doesn't have any conflicting information [17:38] tedg: only says "Install the Unity8 session snap with the proper arguments passed to the snap command" [17:38] Haha, I guess I was vague enough then ;-) [17:38] :) [17:38] Future-proof via uncertainty [17:38] future proofing [17:38] heh [17:38] lol [17:39] Not a stickler about the manpage for sure. Just wanted to shut lintian up. [17:39] tedg: I kinda wish that whole script was simply "snap install $@"... and have snap handle the different cases. But ah well [17:39] Although bregma may have a problem with using bash in that script:) [17:40] oh yeah? I think I did that for easier coloring with echo. I know there's a posix way too, but I didn't think it mattered enough for me to look it up. But am happy to do so [17:41] mterry: Personally, it doesn't matter to me, but he's made comments about that before, but we'll wait on his feedback so he can speak for himself. === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:52] ChrisTownsend: ok you bash-shamed me into fixing it [17:52] mterry: lol, ok [17:57] tedg: is there a terminal snap already? [17:57] I couldn't guess its name [17:57] And I don't know how to find edge snaps besides just guessing [17:57] Oh I lied [17:57] I just didn't pass --devmode last time [17:57] *sigh* [17:58] mterry: Yes, that's a pain :-/ [17:58] mterry: echo gallery-app camera-app webbrowser-app address-book-app messaging-app dialer-app ubuntu-calendar-app ubuntu-clock-app ubuntu-filemanager-app ubuntu-terminal-app | xargs -n 1 snap install --edge --devmode [17:59] tedg: eh I was thinking just browser, terminal, and filemanager? [17:59] or do we want to do a full thing? [18:01] mterry: I don't have a strong opinion there. [18:01] bfiller: Do you have an idea on which apps should be included? [18:02] tedg, I think all of them except for maybe not dialer and messaging which are useless on desktop currently [18:02] mterry: ^ [18:02] k [18:03] we're working on Notes app snap so when that's done will be a good candidate too [18:03] mterry, tedg : oh yeah musicplayer-app would be good as well, think that is in edge store [18:05] mterry, and ubuntu-calculator-app [18:06] I've heard dekko snap is available but haven't tried that either [18:06] s/either/yet [18:12] bfiller: musicplayer-app doesn't seem to be in store [18:12] ahayzen, ^^^ thought we uploaded this? can't remeber [18:13] bfiller, music-app was awaiting media-hub interface [18:13] ahayzen, ok [18:14] ahayzen, didn't we have it working in devmode? [18:14] and clarification of the mediascanner / media storage situation ... i got it working with mediascanner running inside my snap, but that probably needs to be higher up === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:14] bfiller, hmmm i'd have to check, it might have been working in devmode but without media-hub [18:15] i seem to remember even in devmode it'd get confused where media-hub-server was to connect to [18:15] mterry, is media-hub running in unity8 snap? [18:16] bfiller: yes [18:16] ok maybe i just need to try things again, as everything has moved on quite a bit since we last tried :-) [18:16] mterry, do we know if it "works", as in all the path issues sorted with it? [18:16] bfiller: no sound or video is played... but it's running [18:17] bfiller: we don't believe it itself is problematic. Something with pulseaudio for sound. Video is just because it doesn't have a non-android video backend [18:18] ahayzen, might be worth trying your snap version with mediascanner embedded in it in unity8 snap session to see where it falls short [18:18] (once we can launch snaps again) [18:19] bfiller, yeah i'll see what i can do :-) [18:21] tedg: ok I just dropped terminal & contacts from built-in u8 snap. Figure we can just use snaps for those. I know we can't launch them quite yet, but that's coming [18:22] ahayzen, were you able to try with my new interface for media-hub? [18:22] ahayzen, I still am going through a review/fix cycle with the snapd team to get that landed [18:22] jhodapp, not yet, i was having trouble building it/the vm to run it in IIRC [18:23] ahayzen, yeah I had that too, that's why I ran it locally although I'd ping zyga about why it wasn't working in the VM as using it locally is dangerous if you value the stock snapd database :) [18:23] as I painfully discovered [18:24] jhodapp, have you tried media-hub service in unity8 snap yet, without snapd interface? would be great to get that working [18:25] bfiller, I haven't, I've not tried out the unity8 snap at all myself yet [18:26] bfiller, if someone can give me a rundown of how it's not working (maybe file a bug for media-hub related to it), I can get that scheduled for our backlog [18:31] jhodapp, once i'm able to launch snaps inside the unity8 snap, i'll see what happens to the existing music-app snap (if it is able to find media-hub etc) and let you know [18:32] ahayzen, perfect...thanks [18:47] jhodapp, according to mterry sounds like the issues maybe pulse related not specific to media-hub but it needs to be tested [18:48] bfiller, ok interesting...wouldn't be the first time we've had pulse issues ;) [18:48] jhodapp, and what backend does media-hub use for video on desktop? need to make sure that is working [18:48] bfiller, it doesn't do hardware accelerated video decoding on the desktop yet [18:49] that's something we'll be starting for research this next sprint for my team [18:49] jhodapp, will mediaplayer-app work in it's current state as it just uses QtMultimedia classes? not sure how that is plumbed into media-hub [18:49] on desktop [18:50] bfiller, if you don't have qtubuntu-media installed, then mediaplayer-app will just use the QtMultimedia backend that directly uses gstreamer [18:50] it won't even touch media-hub [18:50] jhodapp, ok cool [18:50] it'll play video software decoded as well [18:50] renato__, ^^^ are you seeing this working? [18:52] bfiller, this is what I am trying to test right now. I can confirm that is trying to use gst but I can not say that is able to play any video yet [18:53] bfiller, it will use gst and gst has some hw decode too. right jhodapp ? [18:53] renato__, it can, depending on what codecs you have installed and your system hardware, but that's a big if [18:54] renato__, the new research story that my team will be doing is trying to solve this to make it as reliable as on the phone [18:54] it should just work for all reasonable/reference hardware [18:54] jhodapp, would be nice to play more than one video on desktop [18:55] renato__, indeed, and also not have it kill your battery [18:55] jhodapp, unity8 session install these pakcages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23518317/ [18:56] renato__, that looks good [18:56] yes I think this is enough. I just need to find a way to open a video on unity8 snap [18:56] :D [18:57] renato__, I'm trying to figure that out for gallery as well. what dirs does it have access to? only under it's own area? [18:57] or xdg? [18:57] bfiller, it should have to Pictures (xdg) [18:58] renato__, so mediaplayer has access to Videos then right? can't you put a video there to test? [18:58] bfiller, mp does not scan for video as gallery does. [18:59] renato__, the dialog should let you pick it [19:00] bfiller, the dialog does not appear on a mir session. [19:00] renato__, how come? [19:00] bfiller, it checks if is running on a mir session and intead of file picker it shows the message dialog saying that you need to click on a video [19:01] renato__, maybe change it to always show the dialog if launched without url [19:02] should be safe [19:02] bfiller, ok this I can do do easy [19:02] at least lets test that and see how it works [19:05] renato__, good luck :) === Sujevo is now known as svij === saelgsI is now known as Isgleas [21:07] jhodapp, is qtubuntu-media needed at all on desktop for audio? it's currently pulled into unity8 snap and think it's preventing video from playing via gstreamer [21:08] bfiller, it's only needed when you want audio/video to go through media-hub...without it you can still play audio/video, it just won't involve media-hub [21:09] jhodapp, what if we want audio to go through hub but not video? [21:09] bfiller, currently not possible [21:10] that's because of the way QtMultimedia designed their classes [21:14] jhodapp, whats the benefit of desktop using media-hub for audio? === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:30] bfiller, coordination of playback sessions and being able to intelligently pause like on the phone as well as (eventually) hardware acceleration of video decoding [21:31] bfiller, also a confined separation between client and codec [22:00] tedg: so I want to add some legacy (non-Touch) apps to the snap, like libreoffice or firefox. Is there a magic hack to get them to launch as xmir apps?