[06:24] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[07:39] <inetpro> hi
[07:43] <Sxuza> hey guys 
[09:48] <chesedo> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro Sxuza and all others
[09:48] <chesedo> Maaz: announce Meeting here tonight
[09:48] <Maaz> Announcement from chesedo! Meeting here tonight
[12:33] <andrewlsd> hmm
[17:00] <chesedo> andrewlsd: you ready for the meeting?
[17:04] <superfly> Not sure I can make the meeting, but I'll try. Supper is probably going to be at meeting time
[17:04] <superfly> (and I don't control the supper)
[17:08] <nlsthzn> hi all, meeting tonight?
[17:10] <chesedo> superfly: np
[17:10] <chesedo> nlsthzn: yip
[17:10] <nlsthzn> k
[17:11] <superfly> hi nlsthzn
[17:14] <nlsthzn> alo superfly 
[17:15] <superfly> nlsthzn is my only friend on Steam...
[17:16] <nlsthzn> :)
[17:16] <nlsthzn> talking of steam, trying to make total war warhammer work on openSUSE at the moment...
[17:16] <nlsthzn> much error messages, not much understanding :p
[17:24] <andrewlsd> hi superfly 
[17:25] <superfly> hi andrewlsd
[17:25] <andrewlsd> hi chesedo 
[17:25] <andrewlsd> hi nlsthzn 
[17:25] <superfly> andrewlsd: I'm afraid I had to give that stuff away, I needed to clear the house
[17:25] <chesedo> hi andrewlsd 
[17:25] <andrewlsd> no worries superfly 
[17:25] <nlsthzn> hey andrewlsd
[17:25] <nlsthzn> superfly: saw on facebook you are now carless and homeless...
[17:26] <andrewlsd> superfly: I should find you on FB
[17:26] <superfly> nlsthzn: indeed
[17:26]  * andrewlsd checks FB monthly
[17:27] <superfly> andrewlsd: you'll need to be a friend of a friend of mine. Let me see if I can find you
[17:27] <andrewlsd> I have similar setting. 
[17:27] <andrewlsd> you could try via kmf
[17:28] <superfly> Found you
[17:29] <andrewlsd> well done
[17:29] <andrewlsd> it's raining in CPT
[17:33] <andrewlsd> (I don't think those two are related things)
[17:38] <Cryterion__> it's raining in dbn too, so you not alone
[17:38] <Cryterion__> hmm
[17:44] <andrewlsd> Hi Cryterion__
[17:48] <nlsthzn> \o/ got the game working :D
[17:51] <superfly> What time is this meeting?
[17:53] <nlsthzn> 8:30 ZA time if I am not mistaken
[17:53] <superfly> oh wow, ok.
[17:58] <kulelu88> we need to start using GMT notation here. superfly and Kilos have both left us
[17:59] <superfly> I haven't left yet, I'm just in a house that doesn't seem to have fixed timeframes for anything
[17:59] <kulelu88> so supper could be at 6 or 10.30 ?
[18:00] <superfly> something like that
[18:00] <andrewlsd> hopefully 18h00 ~ 22h00 not 06h00 
[18:01] <kulelu88> that house probably doesn't have children ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:03] <superfly> kulelu88: they're 16-20
[18:03] <kulelu88> supper beyond 9.30 is odd for 99.5% of people
[18:05] <superfly> I can't handle supper beyond 6:30
[18:06] <kulelu88> andrewlsd: are you andrewlsd on zatech ?
[18:12] <Vince-0> sup guiz
[18:12] <superfly> hey Vince-0
[18:12] <kulelu88> 0/
[18:12] <superfly> I'm eating at my computer
[18:12] <nsnzero> good evening all
[18:14] <superfly> hi nsnzero
[18:15] <nsnzero> hi superfly and kulelu88
[18:15] <kulelu88> heyo nsnzero 
[18:17]  * chesedo sees we have a full house tonight
[18:22] <nsnzero> hi there chesedo
[18:23] <chesedo> oh hi nsnzero 
[18:24] <kulelu88> I'm experimenting with Go :D
[18:24] <chesedo> and hi kulelu88 Vince-0 too
[18:25] <chesedo> kulelu88: i started that too a week or so ago
[18:25] <kulelu88> are you productive? chesedo 
[18:25] <chesedo> it seems like a really fun lang
[18:26] <chesedo> kulelu88: yes mostly, i watched an hour youtube video and did a quick course on codeschool over the weekend... then also have about 3-4 books that I will go through...
[18:27] <kulelu88> you find programming books useful?
[18:28] <chesedo> kulelu88: yeah somewhat... it is mostly about seeing how (and why) others do things to get a new perspective
[18:29] <kulelu88> almost meeting time, so we will save the Go discussion for later
[18:29] <chesedo> kulelu88: np
[18:29] <chesedo> andrewlsd: you ready?
[18:30] <andrewlsd> yes
[18:30]  * andrewlsd just goes to find that wki stuff
[18:31] <kulelu88> how so tou install Go? chesedo 
[18:32] <chesedo> kulelu88: for some reason it was installed... cannot remember for what
[18:32] <nsnzero> kulelu88:  its available on their website
[18:32] <kulelu88> download the binary? no apt-get ?
[18:32] <andrewlsd> chesedo: I've lost the etherpad notes.
[18:33] <chesedo> andrewlsd: titanpad
[18:33] <kbmonkey> evening folks
[18:33] <superfly> sup kbmonkey, long time no see
[18:33] <chesedo> hi kbmonkey 
[18:34] <kbmonkey> superfly, yes it has. good to be on irc again :)
[18:35] <kbmonkey> hi chesedo 
[18:35] <nsnzero> kulelu88: its called golang-go in the repository
[18:36]  * chesedo sees that is how his is installed
[18:36] <chesedo> andrewlsd: shall i start us off?
[18:37] <andrewlsd> yes please
[18:37] <chesedo> ok
[18:37] <chesedo> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - November 2016
[18:37]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:37] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction
[18:37] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:38] <chesedo> Evening all and thank you for joining in on our monthly meeting!
[18:38] <chesedo> Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. 
[18:38] <chesedo> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:38] <Maaz> chesedo: Done
[18:38] <nlsthzn> Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>
[18:38] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Yessir
[18:38] <nlsthzn> >.>
[18:38] <kbmonkey> nlsthzn, :p
[18:39] <andrewlsd> Maaz: I am Andrew Mac
[18:39] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Okay
[18:39] <chesedo> nlsthzn: lol
[18:39] <nsnzero> Maaz: I am nsnzero
[18:39] <Maaz> nsnzero: Done
[18:39] <chesedo> The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161122
[18:39] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[18:39] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Done
[18:39] <kulelu88> Maaz: I am kulelu88 
[18:39] <Maaz> kulelu88: Righto
[18:39] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:39] <Maaz> superfly: Yessir
[18:39] <chesedo> any last minute additions are welcome
[18:40]  * nlsthzn gets some more coffee as it is late over here
[18:40] <chesedo> else we can continue if i can get a thumbs up...
[18:40] <clr> Maaz: I am Charl le Roux
[18:40] <Maaz> clr: Okay
[18:41] <chesedo> andrewlsd: you can take over if you are ready?
[18:41] <andrewlsd> cool
[18:41] <andrewlsd> If everyone is comfy, and has their coffee we can proceed to review the minutes of the previous meeting.
[18:41]  * chesedo is ok with the agenda btw
[18:42] <andrewlsd> Maaz: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:42] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Sorry...
[18:42] <andrewlsd> Maaz:  Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:42] <Maaz> andrewlsd: *blink*
[18:42] <kulelu88> Maaz: FML
[18:42] <Maaz> kulelu88: Today, I had to make a deal with my 22 year old fiancé. What was the deal? If he put deodorant on, he could squeeze my boob for as long as he liked. FML - http://www.fmylife.com/intimacy/16939716
[18:42] <kulelu88> 0.o
[18:42] <mciverza> Maaz: Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:42] <Maaz> mciverza: *blink*
[18:43] <mciverza> :-( sorry chesedo, you'll have to do it.
[18:43] <mciverza> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:43] <Maaz> mciverza: You're not the boss of me
[18:43] <nlsthzn> well that escalated quickly
[18:43] <andrewlsd> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:43] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:44] <andrewlsd> last meeting was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161025
[18:44] <chesedo> oh boy, sorry about that... lost connection...
[18:44] <chesedo> did Maaz get my topic change?
[18:45] <andrewlsd> chesedo: np, I found out what I needed. 
[18:45] <andrewlsd> mz got mine.
[18:45] <chesedo> andrewlsd: great!
[18:45] <andrewlsd> Any feedback or comments on the minutes of the previous meeting
[18:46] <chesedo> andrewlsd: nope, all seems good to me
[18:46] <andrewlsd> thanks chesedo
[18:46] <andrewlsd> anyone else?
[18:46] <kbmonkey> nothing to add from me
[18:47]  * nlsthzn regrets never learning to read
[18:48] <chesedo> nlsthzn: don't worry at least you can type :P
[18:48] <andrewlsd> Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes
[18:48] <Maaz> Agreed: All happy with previous minutes
[18:48] <andrewlsd> Maaz: topic Plans for 2016
[18:48] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2016
[18:48] <andrewlsd> I think we need plans for 2017. Not much left of 2016
[18:49] <chesedo> andrewlsd: yeah...
[18:49] <andrewlsd> any updates on membership applications for tareq, magespawn and Kapanda?
[18:49] <chesedo> al thought i do not know if we will just rename it?
[18:49] <andrewlsd> hopefully magespawn (not here) has filledhis wiki page
[18:50] <andrewlsd> s/filledhis/filled\ his/
[18:50] <chesedo> andrewlsd: i checked if magespawn's wiki was up before the meeting, but still in works...
[18:50] <andrewlsd> thanks chesedo
[18:50] <chesedo> only kilos is in contact with tareq (i think)...
[18:50] <chesedo> and have not heard from Kapanda in a while...
[18:51] <andrewlsd> Any new folks around recently? Any one need help with the GPG keys or signing the Code of Conduct?
[18:51] <kulelu88> which GPG keys?
[18:52] <Vince-0> Maaz: I am Vincent Swart
[18:52] <Maaz> Vince-0: Okay
[18:52] <andrewlsd> IIRC GPG keys are needed to be able to sign the C-o-C 
[18:52] <andrewlsd> Welcome Vince-0
[18:52] <chesedo> good question... i think night is new...
[18:52] <kulelu88> oh, okay
[18:52] <andrewlsd> kulelu88: have you signed it? (if not, would you like to?)
[18:53] <kulelu88> I need my own GPG keys right?
[18:53] <andrewlsd> yip
[18:53] <chesedo> and i am too bad at remembering name to be 100% if zaki and ludo are new
[18:53] <kulelu88> aah well when I get to setting up my own email, I will get there, but for now, I'll pass
[18:54] <andrewlsd> np kulelu88, feel free to give a shout if/when that happens.
[18:54] <andrewlsd> Can we proceed to discuss upcoming events?
[18:54] <chesedo> andrewlsd: ok with me
[18:54] <andrewlsd> Maaz: topic Events
[18:54] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:55] <andrewlsd> Are there any upcoming Ubuntu or open source related events that anyone would like to mention?
[18:55] <kulelu88> all 2017 now
[18:55] <kulelu88> devconf 
[18:55]  * chesedo is not aware of any
[18:56] <kulelu88> rubyfuza
[18:56] <chesedo> kulelu88: which dates are those
[18:56] <chesedo> *?
[18:56] <andrewlsd> Cape Linux Users Group (CLUG) is having a talk tomorrow ...
[18:56] <kulelu88> devconf: 9 March, 2017, Johannesburg
[18:57] <kulelu88> rubyfuza: 2-4 February 2017 Cape Town, South Africa
[18:57] <chesedo> wow awesome, can you give more details andrewlsd ?
[18:57] <andrewlsd> chesedo:  :-)... willl do as soon as my email opens.....
[18:57] <andrewlsd> woops, it was tonight.
[18:58] <chesedo> lol...
[18:58] <andrewlsd> For what it is worth: The information: Speaker: Marc Welz; Topic: Archive Formats and Tricks ; Time: 18:30 ; Venue: UCT Chemical Engineering
[18:59] <chesedo> kulelu88: we will have to remember those
[18:59] <kulelu88> can't you tell Maaz to do so?
[18:59] <andrewlsd> if anyone here would like to get advance notice of their meetups, please sign up to their mailing list via https://wiki.clug.org.za/
[19:00] <chesedo> kulelu88: that is a feature that i often wish it had
[19:00] <andrewlsd> Thanks kulelu88
[19:00] <andrewlsd> the RubyFuZA website is http://www.rubyfuza.org/ and contains details about the conference.
[19:01] <chesedo> who here are ruby devs btw?
[19:01] <kulelu88> devug is having the geek of the year on 13 December 2016
[19:01] <andrewlsd> i::amNot
[19:02] <chesedo> kulelu88: link maybe?
[19:02] <andrewlsd> chesedo: you beat me to it.
[19:02] <chesedo> :D
[19:03]  * andrewlsd thinks kulelu88 is busy googling like mad or searching mails.
[19:03] <kulelu88> no, I try to keep track of dev events. get to meet all the local folks. 
[19:03] <nsnzero> which group is devug ?
[19:04] <chesedo> kulelu88: should that maybe have been debug?
[19:04] <kulelu88> DevUG: https://www.meetup.com/DeveloperUG/events/233441994/
[19:04] <kulelu88> I see you on zatech andrewlsd ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ :D
[19:04] <andrewlsd> kulelu88: yes.
[19:05] <kulelu88> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[19:05] <andrewlsd> Did anyone here attend DevOps Days
[19:06] <kulelu88> in cape town? no
[19:06]  * chesedo does not live in cpt
[19:06] <andrewlsd> chesedo: occasionally people travel to cpt
[19:06] <andrewlsd> :-P
[19:07] <chesedo> that too...
[19:07] <andrewlsd> If no other events, we can move to "miscellaneous" in 3 .. 
[19:07] <andrewlsd> ... 2
[19:07] <chesedo> yip
[19:07] <andrewlsd> ... 1
[19:07] <chesedo> and add that devug to the next agenda
[19:08] <andrewlsd> devug. developer user group <-- How to use developers?
[19:08] <andrewlsd> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous
[19:08] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[19:08] <kulelu88> the devug is nice. it's better than seeing 62 different meetups for each javascript library
[19:09] <andrewlsd> LOL
[19:09] <andrewlsd> ... because:
[19:09] <andrewlsd> https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f#.emys21i2g
[19:09]  * chesedo was actually planning on announcing his js library soon :P
[19:10] <andrewlsd> I am releasing CinderJS. It's a lot like ember, but after it has burn out and cooled down completely.
[19:11] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: vanilla-js.com/
[19:11]  * andrewlsd will re-release it as AshesJS
[19:11] <andrewlsd> Hashtag #GetYourOwnJS
[19:11] <andrewlsd> wonderfully miscellaneous all of this.
[19:12]  * chesedo found this last week http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/
[19:12] <kulelu88> As an important part of ubuntu-za, is anyone aware of Kilos health, recovery and financial status in OZ?
[19:13] <andrewlsd> ty kulelu88. also keen to hear of that.
[19:13] <chesedo> theblazehen: that is some serious benchmarks!
[19:14] <andrewlsd> ?
[19:14] <andrewlsd> hello theblazehen
[19:14] <chesedo> kulelu88: last i know is that about $5000 is still outstanding
[19:14] <nlsthzn>  $4,865 of $14k goal 
[19:15] <chesedo> or more ^^
[19:15] <nlsthzn> from the website
[19:15] <nlsthzn> and he is in the last few weeks before returning
[19:15] <nlsthzn> last I heard
[19:15] <theblazehen> hi andrewlsd 
[19:15] <andrewlsd> thanks nlsthzn
[19:16] <kulelu88> that's very unfortunate :(
[19:16] <kbmonkey> his fund got a quick start but needs more backers
[19:16] <chesedo> thanks nlsthzn 
[19:16] <nlsthzn> np
[19:16] <nlsthzn> last donation 26 days ago
[19:16] <andrewlsd> is there anything we can do to re-invigorate the gofundme campaign again.
[19:17]  * nlsthzn will wait for payday and add some more
[19:17] <kbmonkey> make another donation 
[19:17] <kbmonkey> :)
[19:17] <andrewlsd> kbmonkey: tru dat.
[19:17] <andrewlsd> any other miscellaneous items?
[19:18] <kbmonkey> whoops
[19:19] <andrewlsd> Ok, ... ready for the next topic?
[19:19] <chesedo> those on twitter can also share/retweet this https://twitter.com/sharpeys/status/798316504815017984
[19:19] <chesedo> andrewlsd: yes
[19:19] <andrewlsd> excellent chesedo (for the retweet link)
[19:19] <andrewlsd>  Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting 
[19:19] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:19] <chesedo> the fb guys may know of some of his fb posts too
[19:20] <andrewlsd> I think that our next meeting is likely to be 23 January 2017
[19:20] <chesedo> andrewlsd: in last meeting paddatrapper mentioned that will be able to takes jan if i am correct...
[19:21] <chesedo> andrewlsd: 24th
[19:21] <andrewlsd> yip. paddatrapper did say that
[19:21] <kulelu88> it's best if someone here can commit instead
[19:21] <kulelu88> maybe padda is not around 
[19:21] <andrewlsd> chesedo: correct, thanks. Next meeting is Tuesday 24 January 2017
[19:21] <paddatrapper> Whoops sorry 
[19:21] <paddatrapper> Yeah can do Jab
[19:21] <paddatrapper> Jan 
[19:22] <andrewlsd> Thanks paddatrapper
[19:22] <chesedo> he is just writting test this week, so studying hard... but we can choose someone (or backup) and then move it if he is still ok?
[19:22] <chesedo> *tests*
[19:22] <andrewlsd> I'm happy with that.
[19:22] <andrewlsd> chesedo: will you be on standby? or would kulelu88 like to do so?
[19:22] <chesedo> andrewlsd: me too
[19:23] <chesedo> kulelu88: would you like to chair sometime?
[19:23] <kulelu88> I'll confirm myself as second backup if padda or first backup fails to attend
[19:23] <andrewlsd> cool.
[19:23] <chesedo> kulelu88: righty
[19:23] <andrewlsd> ok, then...
[19:24] <kulelu88> (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
[19:24] <andrewlsd> Agreed: paddatrapper to chair next meeting
[19:24] <chesedo> andrewlsd: yes, i should be able to standby
[19:24] <andrewlsd> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[19:24] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[19:24] <andrewlsd> Is it agreed that the next meeting will be 24 January 2017
[19:24] <andrewlsd> (I always think we should do date before deciding chair)
[19:24] <chesedo> yes
[19:25] <chesedo> andrewlsd: sound like a good thought
[19:25] <andrewlsd> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 24 January 2017 @ 20:30 SAST
[19:25] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 24 January 2017 @ 20:30 SAST
[19:25] <chesedo> we should agree Maaz on that if all is happy with the swap.
[19:26] <andrewlsd> chesedo: go for it..
[19:26] <chesedo> Maaz: agree Move next meeting before chairman on agenda
[19:26] <Maaz> chesedo: Excuse me?
[19:26] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Move next meeting before chairman on agenda
[19:26] <Maaz> Agreed: Move next meeting before chairman on agenda
[19:26] <chesedo> andrewlsd: done
[19:26] <andrewlsd> superb
[19:27] <andrewlsd> Thanks everyone for being here. The minutes will be posted shortly once the meeting is closed.
[19:27] <chesedo> and thanks for the awesome chairing today
[19:27] <andrewlsd> thanks chesedo for kicking things off and backing me up.
[19:27] <chesedo> andrewlsd: yw
[19:27] <andrewlsd> Good night all.
[19:27] <kbmonkey> Thanks andrewlsd, chesedo :)
[19:27] <andrewlsd> Maaz: end meeting
[19:28] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:28] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-11-22-18-37-41.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-11-22-18-37-41.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-11-22-18-37-41.html
[19:29] <chesedo> awesome... it seems that the rain from dbn and cpt has reached prt
[19:30] <andrewlsd> chesedo: super :-)
[19:30] <kulelu88> it's "Tshwane" (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)
[19:31] <andrewlsd> kulelu88: very impressive font character.
[19:31] <kulelu88> Also, this is the final monthly meet where superfly will be a ZAfrican. in 2017 he shall make murica great again (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
[19:31] <kulelu88> andrewlsd: https://textfac.es/#textgags
[19:31] <andrewlsd> indeed. Fare thee well superfly!
[19:34] <chesedo> night all
[19:35] <nlsthzn> ┬┴┬┴┤ ͜ʖ ͡°) ├┬┴┬┴
[19:35] <nsnzero> chesedo: night night
[19:36] <kulelu88> how bad is this install instruction: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/install-go-1-7-ubuntu-16-04-14-04-centos-7-fedora-24.html "switch to root user" waht 
[19:36] <nsnzero> hopefully in the future i will have something to contribute to the meeting 
[19:37] <kulelu88> nsnzero: I confuse you and nlsthzn . 
[19:37] <nlsthzn> :p
[19:37] <nlsthzn> I am me only when I am not
[19:39] <nsnzero> kulelu88: i dont understand ... lol
[19:40] <kulelu88> nlsthzn, nsnzero which programming languages do each of you use? 
[19:40]  * nlsthzn once wrote a program that printed out Hello World
[19:40]  * andrewlsd goes night night
[19:41] <nlsthzn> not much more than that
[19:41] <nsnzero>  c and python - will learn qt when i have time 
[19:41] <kulelu88> okay now I can differentiate. 1 guy doesn't code, the other does :P
[19:42] <nlsthzn> :)
[19:42] <kbmonkey> python is nice, a favourite next to lua.
[19:43] <kulelu88> kbmonkey: you also a student? hows exams?
[19:43] <nsnzero> chat tomorrow guys - good night all
[19:44] <kbmonkey> no kulelu88 I'm not a student, programmer by trade
[19:44] <kulelu88> night nsnzero 
[19:44] <kulelu88> oh that's cool. where you located kbmonkey ?
[19:45] <inetpro> oh my, I missed the meeting... good evening 
[19:45] <kbmonkey> Durban for now, kulelu88 how about you?
[19:45] <kbmonkey> welcome inetpro :)
[19:45] <inetpro> thanks kbmonkey
[19:45] <kulelu88> I'm in Gauteng
[19:46] <kbmonkey> going to Aus next year and might end up staying there for work
[19:46] <kulelu88> kbmonkey: you work for canonical ?
[19:46] <kbmonkey> nope kulelu88 why do you ask? :)
[19:46] <kulelu88> I know a guy in durban who works for them. well, KZN IIRC
[19:47] <kbmonkey> that would be a sweet job, I bet
[19:47] <kulelu88> I'm not too sure. sounds like a lot of pressure
[19:50] <kbmonkey> I bet, any job worth doing is :)
[19:53] <kbmonkey> ever seen linux run inside a javascript VM http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[19:56] <kulelu88> what is the curl equivalent of: wget https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.7.1.linux-amd64.tar.gz
[19:57] <kbmonkey> curl -O http... ?
[19:58] <kulelu88> -O ?
[19:58] <kulelu88> i tried it vanilla and it started displaying the binary output
[19:58] <kbmonkey> -O writes the output to file
[19:58] <kbmonkey> the filename is read from the url
[20:00] <theblazehen> kbmonkey: http://copy.sh/v86/
[20:00] <theblazehen> kulelu88: curl the.thing > outfile ?
[20:01] <kulelu88> theblazehen: if I use -O , will it save the file as the .tar.gz filename ?
[20:01] <theblazehen> kulelu88: I think you need to specify the name
[20:02] <theblazehen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ieT4VkL-n4
[20:02] <kulelu88> are those tiny linux installs? re. copy.sh ?
[20:02] <kbmonkey> any reason you not using wget, kulelu88?
[20:03] <kbmonkey> ha theblazehen, those are pretty nice emulations :)
[20:03] <kulelu88> kbmonkey: my container doesn't have it installed. I could install it, but curl is there
[20:03] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Not just linux, and x86 os
[20:03] <kbmonkey> -O, --remote-name Write  output to a local file named like the remote file we get. (Only the file part of the remote file is used, the path is  cut off.)
[20:05] <kulelu88> step 1: learn Go. Step 2: become google jedi
[20:05] <kbmonkey> :D
[20:09] <kbmonkey> my foray learning web canvas with vanilla js http://wesleywerner.github.io/penny-farthing/
[20:10] <kulelu88> aah nice pelican blog you have there
[20:11] <kulelu88> your duckduckgo search box is broken
[20:12] <kulelu88> i didn't even know DDG supported that
[20:12] <kbmonkey> it is? oh dear. I have not looked at that in a while :/
[20:13] <kulelu88> with free hosting (gitlab) and free domains, I plan on moving away from .github.io 
[20:14] <kbmonkey> I have a linode server, just no time to move anything across :p
[20:14] <kulelu88> you self-hosting anything ?
[20:14] <kbmonkey> they're pretty well priced
[20:14] <kulelu88> isn't DO cheaper?
[20:14] <theblazehen> Self host with a cheap vps for a reverse proxy? It's what I do
[20:15] <kbmonkey> DO?
[20:15] <theblazehen> host1plus
[20:15] <theblazehen> OpenVZ, not true vm
[20:15] <kulelu88> digital ocean
[20:15] <kbmonkey> I needed linode as I was learning node and needed to run server side code :)
[20:16] <kulelu88> eeuww node.js
[20:16] <kbmonkey> lol
[20:16] <kulelu88> theblazehen: reverse proxy or vpn ?
[20:17] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Well, both. Reverse proxies to hosts inside my lan which it connects to with my vpn
[20:17] <theblazehen> https://linx.theblazehen.com/ example
[20:17] <kbmonkey> nicely done sir
[20:18] <theblazehen> Ty kbmonkey 
[20:18] <kulelu88> how much is it costing you to run the proxy and vpn? theblazehen 
[20:18] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Around R70 / month, could probably go cheaper
[20:19] <theblazehen> I use caddyserver for reverse proxy as it does lets encrypt registration upon first request
[20:19] <kulelu88> that's dirt cheap. but openvz heh
[20:19] <theblazehen> Which proxies to nginx which does a dns lookup against internal dns
[20:19] <kulelu88> is your file upload tool sanitized or can someone drop in a malicious file there ?
[20:19] <theblazehen> kulelu88: I don't care about that much. Everything important at home
[20:20] <theblazehen> kulelu88: They can drop whatever, doesn't mean I'll download and run it though
[20:20] <kulelu88> your setup is quite complex. do you use the vpn to access the proxy or the other way around?
[20:21] <theblazehen> I'm always VPN'd in. When someone external hits me they hit the reverse proxy on vps which connects to the host internally over the vpn to home
[20:22] <kulelu88> I need a diagram to understand this setup 0.o
[20:23] <kbmonkey> Wish I understood half of that stuff o.O
[20:24]  * theblazehen has been planning to do a blog post
[20:26] <theblazehen> Lost some data as  it isn't fully configured yet, but https://docker-bosun.theblazehen.com/host?host=jeandrehomehost&time=1d-ago https://docker-bosun.theblazehen.com/host?host=jeandrehomehost2&time=1d-ago https://docker-bosun.theblazehen.com/host?host=jeandrelsdhost&time=1d-ago http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2943400/fastest-way-to-copy-a-table-in-mysql
[20:26] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Why I don't need a good vps :)
[20:27] <kulelu88> okay wait, let's start simple. from your ADSL at home, how do you connect to the internet? Ethernet > openvpn > reverse proxy > internet ? 
[20:27] <theblazehen> Nope, reverse proxy is just incoming
[20:28] <theblazehen> I use a vdsl router as a modem, got pfsense running as a router in a vm on a laptop
[20:28] <theblazehen> So from my "desktop" it's:
[20:29] <kbmonkey> good night folks, had a long day. see you around!
[20:32] <theblazehen> Desktop -> host that runs my desktop (Linux bridge + LACP bonding) -> switch -> laptop with interface bridged to router -> router -> (PPP connection out to ISP) laptop -> switch -> modem -> DSLAM -> BRAS / MSAN (Don't know too much of the telco side, so I'll stop there)
[20:32] <theblazehen> kulelu88: 
[20:33] <kulelu88> why so many hoops from your desktop to modem ?
[20:34] <theblazehen> kulelu88: because my desktop isn't really a desktop, and the laptop runs other stuff, easier to just run pfsense (freebsd) in a vm than to use jails etc
[20:34] <kulelu88> your desktop is a thin client ?
[20:35] <theblazehen> Indeed
[20:36] <theblazehen> http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-11-21-222105706x649scrot.png I was watching a movie last night
[20:38] <theblazehen> http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/5peopxs0.jpg
[20:39] <theblazehen> http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/dffv6n5i.jpg
[20:39] <kulelu88> so the server renders the desktop ?
[20:39] <theblazehen> kulelu88: Container on the server, but yeah
[20:40] <theblazehen> 9280x2560 over vnc :)
[20:40] <theblazehen> http://linx.theblazehen.com/ae4vqc22.ext
[20:44] <theblazehen> http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-11-15-2235149280x2560scrot1.png
[20:46]  * theblazehen really needs to see what I do with logs, seeing as something somewhere in the elk stack can do alerting, and grafana can as well
[20:46] <theblazehen> https://grafana.net/plugins/bosun-app why I got bosun at first
[20:48] <theblazehen> kulelu88: http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/fc37dprh.txt
[20:51] <theblazehen> https://redditstream-kibana.theblazehen.com/ if anyone wants to play
[20:52] <kulelu88> what is that? 
[20:52] <theblazehen> Scraping all reddit comments as much as I can and throwing them into elasticsearch
[20:53] <kulelu88> why?
[20:53] <theblazehen> http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/redditthing.py
[20:53] <theblazehen> In case I discover something cool to do with the data?
[20:54] <kulelu88> well that is a good enough reason. better to have the data 
[20:54] <theblazehen> Indeed
[20:54] <kulelu88> all this for 70 bucks though. that is power
[20:55] <theblazehen> Nope. That 70 bucks just lets you connect to the power
[20:55] <theblazehen> The real power is in my rack
[20:56] <theblazehen> http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/onc2e9cp.ext Some call this useless
[20:56] <kulelu88> you offering free (limited) access to your server-rack for web-server testing? :P
[20:57] <theblazehen> or a waste of bandwidth / storage
[20:57] <theblazehen> kulelu88: nope, but so I can share links and have vps cache it so it doesn't need my adsl upload
[20:57] <theblazehen> nginx can cache as reverse proxy
[20:58] <kulelu88> oh darn, I was hoping to test your server against a web-server load for a small Redis/Go app I want to build
[21:03] <theblazehen> kulelu88: How do you want to test?
[21:03] <kulelu88> concurrent load. 10K at the same time
[21:04] <kulelu88> but i'm joking :P i'll test at home
[21:04] <theblazehen> kulelu88: VPS would fall over, home from your side adsl would fall over, home from internal, eh, it wouldn't even notice
[21:05] <theblazehen> I think I had apache serve around 50k requests / second
[21:05] <theblazehen> But I'm off to bed, I'll ping you tomorrow
[21:07] <kulelu88> take care, bye theblazehen