[06:24] morning peoples [07:39] hi [07:43] hey guys === MaNL is now known as MaNI [09:48] hi thatgraemeguy inetpro Sxuza and all others [09:48] Maaz: announce Meeting here tonight [09:48] Announcement from chesedo! Meeting here tonight [12:33] hmm === urbanslug is now known as zipper === RemonShai is now known as r3m0n === MaNL is now known as MaNI [17:00] andrewlsd: you ready for the meeting? [17:04] Not sure I can make the meeting, but I'll try. Supper is probably going to be at meeting time [17:04] (and I don't control the supper) [17:08] hi all, meeting tonight? [17:10] superfly: np [17:10] nlsthzn: yip [17:10] k [17:11] hi nlsthzn [17:14] alo superfly [17:15] nlsthzn is my only friend on Steam... [17:16] :) [17:16] talking of steam, trying to make total war warhammer work on openSUSE at the moment... [17:16] much error messages, not much understanding :p [17:24] hi superfly [17:25] hi andrewlsd [17:25] hi chesedo [17:25] hi nlsthzn [17:25] andrewlsd: I'm afraid I had to give that stuff away, I needed to clear the house [17:25] hi andrewlsd [17:25] no worries superfly [17:25] hey andrewlsd [17:25] superfly: saw on facebook you are now carless and homeless... [17:26] superfly: I should find you on FB [17:26] nlsthzn: indeed [17:26] * andrewlsd checks FB monthly [17:27] andrewlsd: you'll need to be a friend of a friend of mine. Let me see if I can find you [17:27] I have similar setting. [17:27] you could try via kmf [17:28] Found you [17:29] well done [17:29] it's raining in CPT [17:33] (I don't think those two are related things) [17:38] it's raining in dbn too, so you not alone [17:38] hmm === Cryterion__ is now known as Cryterion [17:44] Hi Cryterion__ [17:48] \o/ got the game working :D [17:51] What time is this meeting? [17:53] 8:30 ZA time if I am not mistaken [17:53] oh wow, ok. [17:58] we need to start using GMT notation here. superfly and Kilos have both left us [17:59] I haven't left yet, I'm just in a house that doesn't seem to have fixed timeframes for anything [17:59] so supper could be at 6 or 10.30 ? [18:00] something like that [18:00] hopefully 18h00 ~ 22h00 not 06h00 [18:01] that house probably doesn't have children ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [18:03] kulelu88: they're 16-20 [18:03] supper beyond 9.30 is odd for 99.5% of people [18:05] I can't handle supper beyond 6:30 [18:06] andrewlsd: are you andrewlsd on zatech ? === qwebirc15688 is now known as Vince-0 [18:12] sup guiz [18:12] hey Vince-0 [18:12] 0/ [18:12] I'm eating at my computer [18:12] good evening all [18:14] hi nsnzero [18:15] hi superfly and kulelu88 [18:15] heyo nsnzero [18:17] * chesedo sees we have a full house tonight [18:22] hi there chesedo [18:23] oh hi nsnzero [18:24] I'm experimenting with Go :D [18:24] and hi kulelu88 Vince-0 too [18:25] kulelu88: i started that too a week or so ago [18:25] are you productive? chesedo [18:25] it seems like a really fun lang [18:26] kulelu88: yes mostly, i watched an hour youtube video and did a quick course on codeschool over the weekend... then also have about 3-4 books that I will go through... [18:27] you find programming books useful? [18:28] kulelu88: yeah somewhat... it is mostly about seeing how (and why) others do things to get a new perspective [18:29] almost meeting time, so we will save the Go discussion for later [18:29] kulelu88: np [18:29] andrewlsd: you ready? [18:30] yes [18:30] * andrewlsd just goes to find that wki stuff [18:31] how so tou install Go? chesedo [18:32] kulelu88: for some reason it was installed... cannot remember for what [18:32] kulelu88: its available on their website [18:32] download the binary? no apt-get ? [18:32] chesedo: I've lost the etherpad notes. [18:33] andrewlsd: titanpad [18:33] evening folks [18:33] sup kbmonkey, long time no see [18:33] hi kbmonkey [18:34] superfly, yes it has. good to be on irc again :) [18:35] hi chesedo [18:35] kulelu88: its called golang-go in the repository [18:36] * chesedo sees that is how his is installed [18:36] andrewlsd: shall i start us off? [18:37] yes please [18:37] ok [18:37] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - November 2016 [18:37] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:37] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:37] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:38] Evening all and thank you for joining in on our monthly meeting! [18:38] Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:38] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:38] chesedo: Done [18:38] Maaz: I am [18:38] nlsthzn: Yessir [18:38] >.> [18:38] nlsthzn, :p [18:39] Maaz: I am Andrew Mac [18:39] andrewlsd: Okay [18:39] nlsthzn: lol [18:39] Maaz: I am nsnzero [18:39] nsnzero: Done [18:39] The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161122 [18:39] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [18:39] kbmonkey: Done [18:39] Maaz: I am kulelu88 [18:39] kulelu88: Righto [18:39] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:39] superfly: Yessir [18:39] any last minute additions are welcome [18:40] * nlsthzn gets some more coffee as it is late over here [18:40] else we can continue if i can get a thumbs up... [18:40] Maaz: I am Charl le Roux [18:40] clr: Okay [18:41] andrewlsd: you can take over if you are ready? [18:41] cool [18:41] If everyone is comfy, and has their coffee we can proceed to review the minutes of the previous meeting. [18:41] * chesedo is ok with the agenda btw [18:42] Maaz: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:42] andrewlsd: Sorry... [18:42] Maaz: Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:42] andrewlsd: *blink* [18:42] Maaz: FML [18:42] kulelu88: Today, I had to make a deal with my 22 year old fiancé. What was the deal? If he put deodorant on, he could squeeze my boob for as long as he liked. FML - http://www.fmylife.com/intimacy/16939716 [18:42] 0.o === andrewlsd is now known as mciverza [18:42] Maaz: Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:42] mciverza: *blink* [18:43] :-( sorry chesedo, you'll have to do it. [18:43] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:43] mciverza: You're not the boss of me [18:43] well that escalated quickly === mciverza is now known as andrewlsd [18:43] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:43] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:44] last meeting was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20161025 [18:44] oh boy, sorry about that... lost connection... [18:44] did Maaz get my topic change? [18:45] chesedo: np, I found out what I needed. [18:45] mz got mine. [18:45] andrewlsd: great! [18:45] Any feedback or comments on the minutes of the previous meeting [18:46] andrewlsd: nope, all seems good to me [18:46] thanks chesedo [18:46] anyone else? [18:46] nothing to add from me [18:47] * nlsthzn regrets never learning to read [18:48] nlsthzn: don't worry at least you can type :P [18:48] Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes [18:48] Agreed: All happy with previous minutes [18:48] Maaz: topic Plans for 2016 [18:48] Current Topic: Plans for 2016 [18:48] I think we need plans for 2017. Not much left of 2016 [18:49] andrewlsd: yeah... [18:49] any updates on membership applications for tareq, magespawn and Kapanda? [18:49] al thought i do not know if we will just rename it? [18:49] hopefully magespawn (not here) has filledhis wiki page [18:50] s/filledhis/filled\ his/ [18:50] andrewlsd: i checked if magespawn's wiki was up before the meeting, but still in works... [18:50] thanks chesedo [18:50] only kilos is in contact with tareq (i think)... [18:50] and have not heard from Kapanda in a while... [18:51] Any new folks around recently? Any one need help with the GPG keys or signing the Code of Conduct? [18:51] which GPG keys? [18:52] Maaz: I am Vincent Swart [18:52] Vince-0: Okay [18:52] IIRC GPG keys are needed to be able to sign the C-o-C [18:52] Welcome Vince-0 [18:52] good question... i think night is new... [18:52] oh, okay [18:52] kulelu88: have you signed it? (if not, would you like to?) [18:53] I need my own GPG keys right? [18:53] yip [18:53] and i am too bad at remembering name to be 100% if zaki and ludo are new [18:53] aah well when I get to setting up my own email, I will get there, but for now, I'll pass [18:54] np kulelu88, feel free to give a shout if/when that happens. [18:54] Can we proceed to discuss upcoming events? [18:54] andrewlsd: ok with me [18:54] Maaz: topic Events [18:54] Current Topic: Events [18:55] Are there any upcoming Ubuntu or open source related events that anyone would like to mention? [18:55] all 2017 now [18:55] devconf [18:55] * chesedo is not aware of any [18:56] rubyfuza [18:56] kulelu88: which dates are those [18:56] *? [18:56] Cape Linux Users Group (CLUG) is having a talk tomorrow ... [18:56] devconf: 9 March, 2017, Johannesburg [18:57] rubyfuza: 2-4 February 2017 Cape Town, South Africa [18:57] wow awesome, can you give more details andrewlsd ? [18:57] chesedo: :-)... willl do as soon as my email opens..... [18:57] woops, it was tonight. [18:58] lol... [18:58] For what it is worth: The information: Speaker: Marc Welz; Topic: Archive Formats and Tricks ; Time: 18:30 ; Venue: UCT Chemical Engineering [18:59] kulelu88: we will have to remember those [18:59] can't you tell Maaz to do so? [18:59] if anyone here would like to get advance notice of their meetups, please sign up to their mailing list via https://wiki.clug.org.za/ [19:00] kulelu88: that is a feature that i often wish it had [19:00] Thanks kulelu88 [19:00] the RubyFuZA website is http://www.rubyfuza.org/ and contains details about the conference. [19:01] who here are ruby devs btw? [19:01] devug is having the geek of the year on 13 December 2016 [19:01] i::amNot [19:02] kulelu88: link maybe? [19:02] chesedo: you beat me to it. [19:02] :D [19:03] * andrewlsd thinks kulelu88 is busy googling like mad or searching mails. [19:03] no, I try to keep track of dev events. get to meet all the local folks. [19:03] which group is devug ? [19:04] kulelu88: should that maybe have been debug? [19:04] DevUG: https://www.meetup.com/DeveloperUG/events/233441994/ [19:04] I see you on zatech andrewlsd ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ :D [19:04] kulelu88: yes. [19:05] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [19:05] Did anyone here attend DevOps Days [19:06] in cape town? no [19:06] * chesedo does not live in cpt [19:06] chesedo: occasionally people travel to cpt [19:06] :-P [19:07] that too... [19:07] If no other events, we can move to "miscellaneous" in 3 .. [19:07] ... 2 [19:07] yip [19:07] ... 1 [19:07] and add that devug to the next agenda [19:08] devug. developer user group <-- How to use developers? [19:08] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:08] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:08] the devug is nice. it's better than seeing 62 different meetups for each javascript library [19:09] LOL [19:09] ... because: [19:09] https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f#.emys21i2g [19:09] * chesedo was actually planning on announcing his js library soon :P [19:10] I am releasing CinderJS. It's a lot like ember, but after it has burn out and cooled down completely. [19:11] andrewlsd: vanilla-js.com/ [19:11] * andrewlsd will re-release it as AshesJS [19:11] Hashtag #GetYourOwnJS [19:11] wonderfully miscellaneous all of this. [19:12] * chesedo found this last week http://youmightnotneedjquery.com/ [19:12] As an important part of ubuntu-za, is anyone aware of Kilos health, recovery and financial status in OZ? [19:13] ty kulelu88. also keen to hear of that. [19:13] theblazehen: that is some serious benchmarks! [19:14] ? [19:14] hello theblazehen [19:14] kulelu88: last i know is that about $5000 is still outstanding [19:14] $4,865 of $14k goal [19:15] or more ^^ [19:15] from the website [19:15] and he is in the last few weeks before returning [19:15] last I heard [19:15] hi andrewlsd [19:15] thanks nlsthzn [19:16] that's very unfortunate :( [19:16] his fund got a quick start but needs more backers [19:16] thanks nlsthzn [19:16] np [19:16] last donation 26 days ago [19:16] is there anything we can do to re-invigorate the gofundme campaign again. [19:17] * nlsthzn will wait for payday and add some more [19:17] make another donation [19:17] :) [19:17] kbmonkey: tru dat. [19:17] any other miscellaneous items? [19:18] whoops [19:19] Ok, ... ready for the next topic? [19:19] those on twitter can also share/retweet this https://twitter.com/sharpeys/status/798316504815017984 [19:19] andrewlsd: yes [19:19] excellent chesedo (for the retweet link) [19:19] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:19] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:19] the fb guys may know of some of his fb posts too [19:20] I think that our next meeting is likely to be 23 January 2017 [19:20] andrewlsd: in last meeting paddatrapper mentioned that will be able to takes jan if i am correct... [19:21] andrewlsd: 24th [19:21] yip. paddatrapper did say that [19:21] it's best if someone here can commit instead [19:21] maybe padda is not around [19:21] chesedo: correct, thanks. Next meeting is Tuesday 24 January 2017 [19:21] Whoops sorry [19:21] Yeah can do Jab [19:21] Jan [19:22] Thanks paddatrapper [19:22] he is just writting test this week, so studying hard... but we can choose someone (or backup) and then move it if he is still ok? [19:22] *tests* [19:22] I'm happy with that. [19:22] chesedo: will you be on standby? or would kulelu88 like to do so? [19:22] andrewlsd: me too [19:23] kulelu88: would you like to chair sometime? [19:23] I'll confirm myself as second backup if padda or first backup fails to attend [19:23] cool. [19:23] kulelu88: righty [19:23] ok, then... [19:24] (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞ [19:24] Agreed: paddatrapper to chair next meeting [19:24] andrewlsd: yes, i should be able to standby [19:24] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:24] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:24] Is it agreed that the next meeting will be 24 January 2017 [19:24] (I always think we should do date before deciding chair) [19:24] yes [19:25] andrewlsd: sound like a good thought [19:25] Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 24 January 2017 @ 20:30 SAST [19:25] Agreed: Next meeting is 24 January 2017 @ 20:30 SAST [19:25] we should agree Maaz on that if all is happy with the swap. [19:26] chesedo: go for it.. [19:26] Maaz: agree Move next meeting before chairman on agenda [19:26] chesedo: Excuse me? [19:26] Maaz: agreed Move next meeting before chairman on agenda [19:26] Agreed: Move next meeting before chairman on agenda [19:26] andrewlsd: done [19:26] superb [19:27] Thanks everyone for being here. The minutes will be posted shortly once the meeting is closed. [19:27] and thanks for the awesome chairing today [19:27] thanks chesedo for kicking things off and backing me up. [19:27] andrewlsd: yw [19:27] Good night all. [19:27] Thanks andrewlsd, chesedo :) [19:27] Maaz: end meeting [19:28] Meeting Ended [19:28] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-11-22-18-37-41.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-11-22-18-37-41.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-11-22-18-37-41.html [19:29] awesome... it seems that the rain from dbn and cpt has reached prt [19:30] chesedo: super :-) [19:30] it's "Tshwane" (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿) [19:31] kulelu88: very impressive font character. [19:31] Also, this is the final monthly meet where superfly will be a ZAfrican. in 2017 he shall make murica great again (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ [19:31] andrewlsd: https://textfac.es/#textgags [19:31] indeed. Fare thee well superfly! [19:34] night all [19:35] ┬┴┬┴┤ ͜ʖ ͡°) ├┬┴┬┴ [19:35] chesedo: night night [19:36] how bad is this install instruction: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/centos-how-tos/install-go-1-7-ubuntu-16-04-14-04-centos-7-fedora-24.html "switch to root user" waht [19:36] hopefully in the future i will have something to contribute to the meeting [19:37] nsnzero: I confuse you and nlsthzn . [19:37] :p [19:37] I am me only when I am not [19:39] kulelu88: i dont understand ... lol [19:40] nlsthzn, nsnzero which programming languages do each of you use? [19:40] * nlsthzn once wrote a program that printed out Hello World [19:40] * andrewlsd goes night night [19:41] not much more than that [19:41] c and python - will learn qt when i have time [19:41] okay now I can differentiate. 1 guy doesn't code, the other does :P [19:42] :) [19:42] python is nice, a favourite next to lua. [19:43] kbmonkey: you also a student? hows exams? [19:43] chat tomorrow guys - good night all [19:44] no kulelu88 I'm not a student, programmer by trade [19:44] night nsnzero [19:44] oh that's cool. where you located kbmonkey ? [19:45] oh my, I missed the meeting... good evening [19:45] Durban for now, kulelu88 how about you? [19:45] welcome inetpro :) [19:45] thanks kbmonkey [19:45] I'm in Gauteng [19:46] going to Aus next year and might end up staying there for work [19:46] kbmonkey: you work for canonical ? [19:46] nope kulelu88 why do you ask? :) [19:46] I know a guy in durban who works for them. well, KZN IIRC [19:47] that would be a sweet job, I bet [19:47] I'm not too sure. sounds like a lot of pressure [19:50] I bet, any job worth doing is :) [19:53] ever seen linux run inside a javascript VM http://bellard.org/jslinux/ [19:56] what is the curl equivalent of: wget https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.7.1.linux-amd64.tar.gz [19:57] curl -O http... ? [19:58] -O ? [19:58] i tried it vanilla and it started displaying the binary output [19:58] -O writes the output to file [19:58] the filename is read from the url [20:00] kbmonkey: http://copy.sh/v86/ [20:00] kulelu88: curl the.thing > outfile ? [20:01] theblazehen: if I use -O , will it save the file as the .tar.gz filename ? [20:01] kulelu88: I think you need to specify the name [20:02] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ieT4VkL-n4 [20:02] are those tiny linux installs? re. copy.sh ? [20:02] any reason you not using wget, kulelu88? [20:03] ha theblazehen, those are pretty nice emulations :) [20:03] kbmonkey: my container doesn't have it installed. I could install it, but curl is there [20:03] kulelu88: Not just linux, and x86 os [20:03] -O, --remote-name Write output to a local file named like the remote file we get. (Only the file part of the remote file is used, the path is cut off.) [20:05] step 1: learn Go. Step 2: become google jedi [20:05] :D [20:09] my foray learning web canvas with vanilla js http://wesleywerner.github.io/penny-farthing/ [20:10] aah nice pelican blog you have there [20:11] your duckduckgo search box is broken [20:12] i didn't even know DDG supported that [20:12] it is? oh dear. I have not looked at that in a while :/ [20:13] with free hosting (gitlab) and free domains, I plan on moving away from .github.io [20:14] I have a linode server, just no time to move anything across :p [20:14] you self-hosting anything ? [20:14] they're pretty well priced [20:14] isn't DO cheaper? [20:14] Self host with a cheap vps for a reverse proxy? It's what I do [20:15] DO? [20:15] host1plus [20:15] OpenVZ, not true vm [20:15] digital ocean [20:15] I needed linode as I was learning node and needed to run server side code :) [20:16] eeuww node.js [20:16] lol [20:16] theblazehen: reverse proxy or vpn ? [20:17] kulelu88: Well, both. Reverse proxies to hosts inside my lan which it connects to with my vpn [20:17] https://linx.theblazehen.com/ example [20:17] nicely done sir [20:18] Ty kbmonkey [20:18] how much is it costing you to run the proxy and vpn? theblazehen [20:18]