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markuI had Kubuntu 16.04 i booted Ubuntu 16.04 and hit destroy it and install Ubuntu00:00
markuand that was the end lol00:00
markuI guess I will check my bios idk00:00
Jordan_Umarku: Do you want me to walk you through booting your local install from your USB drive?00:01
markuthat is a temporary solution though right? I use this for school and development.. Kinda need a perm solution :/00:02
obliotgm4883: so i got some progress, if i turn ssl_enable=NO it works fine, if i flip it to ssl_enable=YES, it stops working, but i have no idea why00:02
oblioi removed all the other ssl options00:02
oblioexcept for that00:02
Jordan_Umarku: Resetting your boot firmware to factory defaults might help.00:02
markuI guess I will try booting into bios and doing that.. thanks Jordan_U00:03
Jordan_Umarku: You're welcome.00:03
markuI'll be back if i actually get my pc back00:03
mark_in_hollywooNvidia 6510SE in-built into motherboard cannot be set to nvidia-340, even though Settings/Drivers can find it. With nvidia-340 installed, no login possible, only infinite login loop. Purging nvidia*, OS reverts to 640x480, but until this weekend, could run in 1280x1040.00:06
mark_in_hollywooToday, I tried to do a re-install of 16.04 and LiveUSB will not boot, even though BIOS can and at boot time F-11 brings up thumb drive to boot from. Selecting persistent (Unetbootin made) drive falls back to SATA (regular boot drive) and gives 640x480 res.00:06
mark_in_hollywooEven the DVD drive is dead.00:06
mark_in_hollywooOn "regular" boot, screen resolution if 640x480 and Settings/Displays has no options.00:06
mark_in_hollywooThis an Athlon X2 620 4 core 64bit CPU. It used to have no problem booting from a LiveUSB drive. True since 12.04LTS+.00:06
mark_in_hollywooI'm new at at IRC. I'm appending this to prevent the 260 seconds timeout. Thnx.00:08
khuseynесть кто живой?00:11
nacc!ru | khuseyn00:11
ubottukhuseyn: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.00:11
MarkuJordan reset bios should secure boot and UEFI boot be enabled00:12
nullbitesЗдравствуйте00:12
TechMongershould i set up my raid before or after i set up my samba server?00:12
khuseynЗдарова00:13
TechMongeror does it matter00:13
khuseyn!!!00:13
mark_in_hollywooOlder BIOS no UEFI option. Sorry I didn't say that earlier.00:13
Bashing-om!raid | TechMonger00:13
ubottuTechMonger: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto00:13
MarkuI'm doomed00:14
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TechMongerBashing-om, im doing a software raid00:15
MarkuWell I have a near brand-new computer rendered useless FML00:15
mark_in_hollywooSorry, FML? No comprendo.00:16
MarkuFML = $uck my life00:16
Bashing-omTechMonger: Ya build the raid array, set up the file system and then install the operating system .00:17
MarkuNo bootable device lol00:17
TechMongerBashing-om, the OS is going to be on a separate SSD00:18
naccTechMonger: those seem like sort of different problems/solutions?00:18
naccTechMonger: if you are planning on sharing the raid via samba, then of course you need to configure the raid first before you can share it (but you could setup samba first, without sharing anything, i suppose)00:19
Bashing-omTechMonger: Still, got to have a file system in order to copy any files onto it .00:19
TechMongerBashing-om, right. i was just giving more info00:20
TechMongerBashing-om, thx for the help00:20
Bashing-omTechMonger: Not much help .. just holding your hand .00:21
bctim_Quick question about grep, when I grep I only want it to return the word/set of words linked with - untill there is a space.  Currently just doing: dir/document | grep lib*00:34
bctim_currently it will return the whole line that contains the lib word00:34
naccbctim_: do you mean -o ?00:36
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bctim_nacc, So when I do grep with the example I used before i get the output libuuid-perl : Depends:*00:40
bctim_nacc, i want the output to be limited to libuuid-perl00:41
naccbctim_: 'lib*' is not an accurate regex then, probably, as it's greedy and capturing the remainder of the line00:42
naccbctim_: also grep is arguably not the best tool to extract parts of lines00:43
naccbctim_: consider using sed or awk00:43
superguestI have a question on the Ubuntu software package versioning scheme.00:43
naccsuperguest: just ask00:43
superguestTake for example, the GCC software package, 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.200:44
superguestlet's focus on the digit before and after "ubuntu"00:45
superguestwhat do they denote?00:45
nacc5.4.0 is the upstream version00:45
supergueste.g. 0ubuntu0, 0ubuntu1, ....00:46
nacc-6 is the debian suffix, indicating (typically) how many times that upstrema has been published in debian, although not all will actually necessarily be published (ime)00:46
naccubuntu indicates it is an ubuntu release00:46
nacc1 indicates it's the first such ubuntu patch to the debian release00:46
nacc~16.04.2 is a way to indicate that it comes after ubuntu1, but if an ubuntu2 came out, it should take precedence; that is usually done when the same version is released to multiple streams00:47
superguestnacc, thanks.  I had this question on my mind for a looonnng time.00:47
naccsuperguest: 0ubuntu indicates the corresponding upstream has not been release by Debian00:47
naccsuperguest: i don't believe you'd see a 0ubuntu0 in the wild00:47
superguestnacc, "ffmpeg version 2.8.8-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2016 the FFmpeg developers"00:48
bctim_How do I create an output that only contains words that start with lib? This would include words like lib-something.00:48
naccsuperguest: ah, that's 0ubuntu0.16.04.100:48
naccsuperguest: the suffix is one long string00:48
naccsuperguest: 0.16.04.100:48
Shayd3Hey all00:48
Shayd3So I tried doing some research and can’t come up with a fix. I just installed ubuntu 16.04 on my pc, everything went swimingly. But for some reason, I keep getting random black screens which is only resolved by restarting the PC. This seems to happen when ever I play a video or something, haven’t been able to pinpoint what causes it to happen yet.00:51
Shayd3When I try to boot into recovery, then just go into normal boot, the drivers do not load properly (which is to be expected) and everything is fine until I reboot again. The drivers load propety and the same thing happens again, random black screens. Any ideas?00:51
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Bashing-om!info libdvd-pkg | Shayd3 Maybe : Is this installed ??00:53
ubottuShayd3 Maybe : Is this installed ??: libdvd-pkg (source: libdvd-pkg): DVD-Video playing library - installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1-2 (yakkety), package size 14 kB, installed size 77 kB00:53
OerHeks..random black screens .. sounds like dust in the gpu fan00:53
Shayd3Shouldn’t be a problem with overheating. Everything is spotless00:54
OerHeks"the drivers do not load properly " how do you tell? and what driver, what gpu ?00:54
Shayd3I can tell because when the PC boots into GRUB, I select ‘Advanced Options for Ubuntu’ and then select ‘Ubuntu, w/ Linux 4.4…… (Recovery Mode)’. Once the ‘Recovery Menu’ pops up, I select ‘resume — Resume normal Boot’. Before intiating the book, it says “Please note that some graphic drivers require a full graphical boot and so will fail when resuming from recovery” I can tell this is the case because when00:56
Shayd3log in screen shows up, the resolution is jacked up and low-quality.00:56
Shayd3gpu is amd R9 39000:56
Shayd3ubottu: how can I tell?00:57
ubottuShayd3: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:57
Shayd3Oh whoops.00:58
superguestnacc, what do you mean by the number of times that upstream has been published in Debian?  So, in the case of GCC 5.4.0 (the upstream version), are you saying that it is common to have the same upstream version published multiple times in Debian ?  i.e. 6ubuntu100:59
naccsuperguest: what's the name of the actual package?01:00
superguest5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.201:00
naccsuperguest: that's the version01:00
naccsuperguest: i think you are referring to gcc-501:00
nacc!info gcc-5 xenial01:00
ubottugcc-5 (source: gcc-5): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4 (xenial), package size 8318 kB, installed size 24590 kB01:00
naccsuperguest: so the above string says there have been 6 'releases' (if you look at the debian/changelog file) of upstream 5.4.0 in Debian01:01
naccsuperguest: at least, there were, when that version of Ubuntu was made01:01
superguestnacc, which brings back to my question, is it common to have the same upstream version published multiple times in Debian?  I am new to this, and is wondering why you would want to publish 6  releases of the same version (5.4.0) ?01:04
naccsuperguest: read the changelog01:04
naccsuperguest: that's how you get bugfixes in debian, e.g.01:04
naccsuperguest: the base upstream is unmodified, and each -# is some set of chnages on the last01:05
peeps[lappy]i want to get rid of mt swap partition without breaking anything.  is it enough to remove it from fstab?  then i can edit the partition and use it for other purposes?01:06
kk4ewtpeeps[lappy], how much ram and are you using a ssd drive?01:06
peeps[lappy]12GB, yes01:07
superguestnacc, okay.  I get it now.01:07
kk4ewtthen yes01:07
Shayd3Dang just did a fresh install too, same problem is happening.01:18
peeps[lappy]is there a way to list installed packages sorted by disk space used?01:20
Shayd3So when a video is playing, and it has sound, when the black screen problem happens, it will loop like… the last .5 seconds of the audio over and over and over again01:26
Bashing-ompeeps[lappy]: The following command is useful for finding out which directories are using all your space...' du -h --max-depth=1 | sort -hr ' . The operative here is 'du' where there can be many convolutions :)01:36
tak3d0wnI am running ubuntu 16.04. I updated grub and now it is only booting directly to the command line minimum grub. When I use exit command it only goes back to the minimum grub command line. If I exit twice then it goes into insert boot media screen. Any help?01:42
vfwpeeps[lappy]: du |sort -n01:43
peeps[lappy]thanks, but i was asking specifically about packages.  anyways i found an answer, dpigs is one application that will show package usage01:43
vfwpeeps[lappy]: du |sort -n [Lists directories, largest last]  ls -ltrS [lists files, largest last]01:45
Shayd3Anyone know what log file I can look at it to see if graphic drivers are the cause to my black screen problem?01:49
trfIf i'm reformatting my drive to install 16.10, is that sufficient to "delete" my current data, or should I use a software like bleachbit for a more complete removal of data01:50
reisioShayd3: what black screen problem?01:50
reisiotrf: are you worried about someone attempting to recover old data on your drive?01:50
trfWell, it'd be nice to know that all old data is gone01:50
trfwould provide more peace of mind01:50
Shayd3This is a clean install of Ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 10. The screen will randomly go black and become unresponsive. The only thing that solves it is a restart, then when I’m going about my normal business again, it will randomly happen again.01:51
Shayd3When playing audio/video, the last .5 seconds of the sound will loop over and over again01:51
reisiotrf: fair enough; a single pass with zeroes will cover that01:51
trfreisio is that an option during the gui install?01:51
Shayd3reisio: the graphics card I have in here is a R9 39001:51
reisiotrf: just be careful you're zeroing exactly the right drive: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/FOO# bs=1M status=progress01:51
reisiotrf: I don't know, but I doubt it is01:52
reisiotrf: you can do it from the live image, though, if you do 'Try Ubuntu'01:52
trfok, i'll do that01:52
trfin the terminal?01:52
reisioShayd3: sudo lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|driver' | grep -i vga -A 101:52
reisiotrf: yes, just be sure you get the /dev/FOO# part right01:53
trfDo you know of a gui tool?01:53
trfI01:53
trfI'm a newcomer to the terminal in general01:53
reisiono; there probably are some, but it wouldn't really be much safer01:54
reisiotrf: sudo lsblk -f will enumerate all the storage devices visible to the live OS01:54
reisiotrf: if you see only /dev/sda (no sdb, etc.), then you have but one, and you can safely use of=/dev/sda01:54
trfok, thanks01:54
Shayd3out put is: “01:00.0 VGA compatible: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290] (rev 80) Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel”01:54
trfI have multiple partitions because I dual boot01:55
Shayd3It’s weird because I have an R9 390… not 290.01:55
trfBut the clean install will be only ubuntu01:55
reisioShayd3: mmm, actually run sudo lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|driver'01:55
reisioShayd3: and see if there are any other drivers listed after 'snd_hda_intel'01:55
reisiotrf: okay, well if you had one hard disk and multiple partitions they'd show up as /dev/sda and /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc.01:56
trfGot it01:56
reisiotrf: if you run cfdisk /dev/sda you can get a quick breakdown by size (I would just Quit after confirming which is which, though)01:56
Shayd3“Kernel driver in use: ath9k \n kernel driver in use: r8169”01:56
Shayd3\n = new line01:56
reisioShayd3: okay, well, that suggests that your graphics driver is quite wrong01:56
Shayd3I’m not entirely too sure how to go about correcting it, to be honest haha very new user01:57
reisioShayd3: is it a laptop?01:57
Shayd3Nope, PC01:57
Shayd3desktop*01:57
trfreisio Thanks, I don't need to worry much about wiping everything since I'm reformatting (I just need to be careful not to wipe the installation USB)01:57
reisiookay01:57
Shayd3What exactly SHOULD be there?01:58
reisioShayd3: read this here first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver01:58
trfreisio on second thought, I'm going to be doing full disk encryption of the new install. So wouldn't the old data be protected by that encryption?01:59
Shayd3should I get my hands on AMDGPU-Pro hybrid driver?02:00
trfreisio by old data i'm referring to the data that will be deleted by the reformatting process02:00
reisiotrf: not really...02:00
reisionot unless you do encryption the stupid way that many people do02:00
trfWhats the stupid way02:01
reisioShayd3: for a desktop I wouldn't _think_ so02:01
reisiotrf: I don't want you to do the stupid way02:01
reisioit's stupid02:01
trfHaha02:01
trfalright02:01
trfWell what I do is use the tool built into the installation02:01
trfLUKS full disk encryption02:01
Bashing-omShayd3: Per: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu ; you should have the radeon driver .02:04
Shayd3So looking at this, It appears that I have no 3D Hardware acceleration either...02:04
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trfwhy am I getting an invalid partition table error when booting from USB02:12
trfis it because i'm booting in legacy?02:12
loganleehello friends02:17
loganleeim running ubuntu02:18
loganlee:)02:18
TiCPUI have started a virtual machine in virt-manager running ubuntu, when ubuntu is booted within the VM, the mouse works like the USB tablet even though the tablet isn't installed, is there a way to get the mouse confined like it does on other OSes?02:18
reisioTiCPU: what vm system is it, kvm?02:19
TiCPUvirt-manager/kvm/q3502:19
Shayd3So I installed amdgpu, how can I tell if it was successful?02:20
loganleemouse works like USB tablet?02:20
TiCPUloganlee, yes, it does not get confined like the PS/2 mouse should do, it works like an absolute device02:21
reisioTiCPU: isn't it CTRL or ALT?02:21
TiCPUthe guest is running yakkety,  I also have a win10 VM running which also has the PS/2 mouse and I have to click then press CTRL+ALT to release02:22
TiCPUI'd like the Ubuntu VM to do the same02:22
Shayd3ffs yeah installed AMDGPU did absolutely nothing...02:22
TiCPUShayd3, what part of AMDGPU, kernel or xorg?02:23
Shayd3….uhhh I have no idea. I followed this http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx02:24
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TiCPUShayd3, why did you install it? gaming, multi-display, desktop performance in general?02:24
TiCPUor even wine support?02:24
Shayd3Black screen problem.02:25
Shayd3Randomly black screens02:25
Shayd3only resolution is to restart02:25
TiCPUrunning trusty, xenial or yakkety?02:25
Shayd3Im sorry?02:25
TiCPUtrusty kernel is too old and has problems running AMDGPU for cards like RX480 for example02:26
TiCPUShayd3, ok then, running ubuntu 14.04, 16.04 or 16.10?02:26
Shayd316.0402:26
Shayd3My card is a R9 39002:26
TiCPUI said trusty but meant xenial,  kernel 4.4 included in 16.04 is too old and has problems running recent cards02:27
Shayd3What would you recommend?02:27
Shayd3Use 16.10?02:27
TiCPUyou can try using the 16.10 kernel to start with, is it easy to revert (directly from boot)02:28
Shayd3my one buddy suggested reinstalling xorg02:28
OerHeksuse 16.10 with kernel 4.8 for that card02:29
vfw!nomodeset02:29
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:29
TiCPUanyone knows when linux-lts-yakkety package will be out?  it seems to be missing02:30
Shayd3how do I go about using 16.10 with kernal 4.8?02:30
TiCPUif you upgrade to 16.10 you get 4.8 automatically02:31
Shayd3Gotcha ok.02:31
OerHeksupgrade, change in sources lts>lts to any new version02:31
Shayd3will try upgrading! will chime back in with results02:31
TiCPUShayd3, I'm currently runing kernel 4.8 on my xenial with RX480, works wonderfully for gaming, mining and GPU passthrough02:33
TiCPUwell.. for GPU passthrough I had to do some tweaking02:33
tgm4883TiCPU: did you also need to upgrade to Mesa 13?02:34
TiCPUtgm4883, I did not need to upgrade mesa but I had to patch libcogl20 for gnome-shell, however, unity was working fine02:39
TiCPUI stopped using gnome-shell 2 days ago after a year of using it, it slows down the UI way too much probably and leaks memory way too much, had to do ALT+F2, R  to respawn it every 3 days or so.02:41
TiCPUI meant, probably because it leaks02:41
tgm4883TiCPU: amdgpu or amdgpu-pro02:45
TiCPUpro02:45
tgm4883I feel like some hand I was trying to play wanted Mesa 13 with amd02:46
tgm4883Game*02:46
TiCPUI had problem with some wine games that suggested mesa 13, but since then I now have GPU passthrough setup for win1002:47
tgm4883TiCPU you're getting good performance in Linux with that? I'm getting kinda bad performance I think02:48
kostkonTiCPU, might interest you https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactive-are-requesting-that-canonical-get-mesa-updates-into-an-official-ppa.8559  also per HWE release schedule 16.04 will get the 16.10 kernel and X in february02:48
tgm4883I should revert back to Mesa 12. I feel like I had better performance with my GTX 76002:51
TiCPUtgm4883, well, most recent game I play is Overwatch using GPU passthrough; all graphics topped off, no lag whatsoever;  if you're talking about the amgpu-pro drivers on Linux itself, well, I don't play much GPU intensive game on Linux, I'd say, Portal 2 at best... graphic at maximum no lag but that is to be expected with such a game.  I also had SC2 on Wine and performance were not terrible but not great neither.02:51
xandrohi everyone02:51
xandroneed your help02:51
xandroanyone can help ?02:52
xandroplease02:52
TiCPUxandro, don't ask to ask, just ask.02:52
xandrook thanks TiCPU02:52
Shayd3Welp I’m pissed. The black screen issue just happened during the upgrade.02:53
TiCPUShayd3, can you let it complete or use a SSH shell?02:53
xandroI just want to ask how can I install snort-mysql in ubuntu server 14.04 lts ?02:53
Shayd3Nope. The system hangs.02:53
* TiCPU remembers having system locks up using integrated grahics on its i7-6700K..02:54
xandro@TiCPU, how can I install snort-mysql in ubuntu server 14.04 ?02:57
TiCPUxandro, I for myself, never used snort. Maybe some else in the channel may help you, the important is to ask to see if anyone can help.02:58
xandroanyone have tried to setup snort+mysql here?02:58
Bashing-om!info snort-mysql trusty02:59
ubottuPackage snort-mysql does not exist in trusty02:59
TiCPUShayd3, did you get the computer booted up again?03:02
Shayd3Nope won’t let me log in, currently making a new ubuntu live USB with 16.10 on it.03:03
Shayd3it was a fresh install of 16.04 so I’m not losing anything03:03
TiCPUI just found out linux-image-4.8.0-27-generic/xenial-proposed  is available, but if won't login anymore, no luck.03:03
TiCPUyou can attempt to resume the dist-upgrade using apt-get -f install though03:03
xandro@ubottu, where can I found snort-mysql?03:04
vfw!nomodeset | Shayd303:06
ubottuShayd3: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter03:06
TiCPUvfw, that won't work on amdgpu, this driver was built for use with modeset03:07
TiCPUs/modeset/KMS03:08
vfwTiCPU: lspci |grep -i vga03:10
vfwTiCPU: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx03:12
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TiCPUvfw, that page doesn't say anything about nomodeset; AMDGPU drivers were built to use kernel mode setting, using nomodeset disables this. It will only break the driver and prevent it from loading properly.03:14
vfwTiCPU: I did not say that it said anything about nomodeset.03:14
vfwTiCPU: It appears to be about installing amdgpu-pro03:15
TiCPUwell, that was misleading, since this link was posted by shayd3 some lines ago.03:16
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vfwI didn't see shady3's post03:18
vfwTiCPU: I just found the information and thought it might be useful to you.  I don't know, just look and see.03:18
TiCPUI had my drivers installed from that page, thanks anyway :) Works fine here.03:19
vfwOh, well, I guess I sent the information to the wrong person. Sorry.03:20
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michael_phi03:28
Marku_when installing Ubuntu do i need to keep the fat32 EFI partition? I installed Ubuntu but it's not booting.. still trying to figure this out.03:29
michael_phow can i delte files names like -200x200 in bulk03:29
TiCPUmichael_p, if you can use find,   find . -type f -iname "-???x???.png" -print0 | xargs -0 rm -v03:30
TiCPUMarku_, if you booted using EFI from the boot menu, Ubuntu should take care of that, if you partition yourself, you need one yes03:30
michael_pwhat about delete03:30
TiCPUmichael_p, might I suggest running rm -i first03:30
TiCPUmichael_p, that's what the xargs part is for03:31
Marku_TiCPU: i have been trying to get ubuntu to boot all day,  I have a ext3 a efi and a swap which one should be the boot03:31
Marku_if you can assist me I'd be less likely to kill myself lol03:31
TiCPUfind <directory, may be . for current dir> -type f (for file) -iname <filename as wildcard pattern> -print0 (for xargs) | xargs -0 rm -i03:32
TiCPUMarku_, RAID, LVM?03:32
Marku_Just a laptop03:32
Marku_and ubuntu 16.0403:32
Marku_no raid or what ever lvm is03:33
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trfLooking for help: my USB iso image of 16.10 won't boot. I get the invalid partition table error. I created it using unetbootin (formatted to FAT32 beforehand)03:33
TiCPUjust booting a Ubuntu media using EFI should just do it; what does it do when rebooting?03:33
Marku_TiCPU: it says no bootable device03:33
TiCPUtrf, you can try dd'ing the ISO directly on the USB if all else fail.03:33
trfwhat is dd'ing03:34
TiCPUMarku_, boot the Ubuntu media and try running efibootmgr and post the output somewhere03:34
Marku_Ubuntu booted from my usb fine03:34
Marku_I am in live version now how do i run efibootmgr sorry no clue03:34
trfI think the problem is with Unetbootin to correctly formatted the iso image to the USB03:34
TiCPUtrf: you created the media from Linux or another OS?03:34
trfFrom linux03:34
trfTiCPU: I'm reformatting my 16.01 install to install 16.1003:35
trf*16.04 to 16.1003:35
TiCPUtrf: Open the Disks utility from the menu, select your USB device, click the menu on the top right corner, select Restore from image et browse to your ISO.03:35
Marku_TiCPU: http://pastie.org/1096725603:35
trfI'm using xubuntu03:35
trfSo I don't have the disk utility03:35
trfBut I do have gparted (if that can be used for that purpose)03:36
TiCPUtrf, gparted doesn't do that03:36
trfok03:36
Marku_should i just delete all the partions and try and reinstall ubuntu?03:37
TiCPUMarku_, can you add  -v?03:37
Marku_sure03:37
trfMaybe I can install the utility you mentioned from xubuntu's software center03:37
TiCPUtrf: it should be part of the standard ubuntu desktop03:37
Marku_TiCPU: http://pastie.org/1096725803:37
trfXubuntu (the XFCE derivative) doesn't have that utility pre-installed03:38
TiCPUtrf: in the ubuntu menu, under the application section, it is called Disks03:38
trfAnd now gnome software center is crashing03:38
trfCan I do this from the terminal?03:38
TiCPUtrf: if you're fine with the CLI, you can use ddrescue <iso image> </dev/sdX> -f    /dev/sdX being your USB03:38
trfI'm not familiar with it03:38
trfBut I can try03:38
TiCPUMarku_, the Linpus entry seems to propose the EFI to switch to MBR,  do you still use it?03:39
Marku_the linpus is the usb with ubuntu on it03:39
Marku_what i used to install it03:40
TiCPUtrf: it is quite dangerous if you select the wrong disk; you can use gparted to make sure you have the right disk by looking at the path on the top right03:40
trfok03:40
trfSo what exactly does that command do? Format the drive and then apply the iso image?03:40
Marku_wait i think thats the usb lol idk03:40
Marku_I'm so confused03:41
TiCPUMarku_, oh I see; try this: efibootmgr -o 0002,0001,2001,2002,2003   to change the boot order03:41
TiCPUtrf: it overwrites the whole device using the ISO03:42
Marku_so no linpus lite is ahead of ubuntu03:42
TiCPUtrf: you'll need to apt install gddrescue03:42
trfWhat do I put in "iso image" the pathway to the file?03:42
TiCPUtrf: exactly03:42
Marku_what is linpus lite TiCPU03:42
trfthanks03:43
trfwill report back03:43
TiCPUMarku_, I don't know, I though it was your USB; it makes your PC want to boot an old style MBR03:43
Marku_linpus has the mbr on it so if that is the first one it should boot03:43
TiCPUMarku_, to use EFI you must have a GPT patition table03:43
Marku_Boot0002* ubuntu03:43
Marku_ok so i did that boot order command03:44
Marku_maybe it will work03:44
TiCPUMarku_, that should do it03:44
TiCPUthe no bootable device probably comes from the MBR03:44
Marku_because the mbr was not booting first eh03:45
Marku_ok i will give it a try03:45
trfTiCPU do I include the "<>" in that command?03:45
TiCPUMarku_, the MBR was first in the boot order, it should not if you want to boot ubuntu03:45
TiCPUtrf: nope03:45
trf  ok03:45
trfTiCPU: here's what I got: "ddrescue /home/user/downloads/image.iso dev/sdb1 -f03:47
trfLook good?03:47
TiCPUtrf: remove the 1 at the end03:48
markuuTiCPU: still no booting device :(03:48
TiCPUwe want to overwrite the whole USB03:48
trf ok03:48
TiCPUmarkuu, same message?03:48
trfhere goes nothing03:48
markuuyes sir03:48
markuusadly03:49
markuuim back in live usb since this is my only computer03:49
trf"no such file in directory"03:49
markuuthank god for live usb lol03:49
trfwhat was I missing03:49
TiCPUmarkuu, yea, always useful.  Do you have multiple disks?03:49
trf /home/user/downloads/image.iso03:49
markuuTiCPU: negative, I have one 1tb drive03:50
TiCPUtrf: you are missing a / in dev/sdb03:50
trfoh thanks03:50
TiCPUmarkuu, can you confirm it is partionned using GPT and not msdos?03:50
markuuI had kubuntu on here before, it worked fine.. I wanted to switch back to ubuntu so i put it on a usb and installed it.03:51
markuums is gone03:51
TiCPUmarkuu, #fdisk -l /dev/sda03:51
TiCPUDisklabel type: gpt03:51
markuuI had Windows 10 before kubuntu03:51
TiCPUok. windows 10 is GPT so that should be OK03:51
trfstill getting same error03:52
TiCPUtrf: I think downloads should be Downloads03:52
markuuTiCPU: http://pastie.org/1096726003:52
trfdidn't think it was case sensitive03:52
TiCPUyou can tab the name in03:52
markuuit's D03:52
Bashing-omtrf: "/home/user/downloads/image.iso" should that not be as /home/trf/Downloads/image.iso ? Where th user is "you" and the directoty is upercase 'D' .03:52
markuuDownloads :)03:52
markuuIt's uppercase for me03:53
trfOk upper-casing now03:53
TiCPUmarkuu, looks perfect03:53
markuutrf:  if you press Do tab it will auto fill03:53
markuulooks perfct but won't boot lol03:53
trfcan't output file03:54
trfpermission denied03:54
trfSudo?03:54
markuusudo03:54
TiCPUtrf: yup03:54
trfok03:54
markuusudo comman03:54
trfseems to be working03:55
TiCPUtrf: to overwrite a whole disk, you need super powers03:55
markuuTiCPU: should i change boot order in bios?03:55
markuulol03:55
trfhah03:55
markuusudo = super user do03:55
markuuI love linux, but this day has me sad lol03:55
TiCPUmarkuu, efibootmgr should show what the EFI setup show03:55
trfCan this utility write over with zeros?03:56
TiCPUtrf: yes, source can be /dev/zero03:56
trfcool03:56
markuuefibootmgr still shows linpus as first03:56
TiCPUmarkuu, even the boot order which can be different from the OS order03:56
trfSo I can do that to my primary drive from the live install usb?03:56
TiCPUtrf, absolutely, that would wipe everything, securely;  if you want a fast wipe, wipefs should do03:57
markuuSo, if the boot order and partions are fine why can't i boot lol am I screwed forever and need to buy windows? lol03:57
cofffeebean  ok someone  need some help here pls. ..03:57
markuuif you need help just ask, instead of yelling help03:57
trfDoes wipefs need to be installed or is it a built-in command utility03:57
TiCPUwipefs is a built-in utility which overwrites signatures,  wipefs -a /dev/sda1 and then wipefs -a /dev/sda  would remove all signatures and make the disk look like new03:57
markuudo man wipefs03:57
trfcool03:58
TiCPUthen run partprobe /dev/sda so that linux gets it03:58
markuumanual :)03:58
markuuwho03:58
cofffeebean  ok  what is the command to check disc space in ubuntu ??..03:58
TiCPUcofffeebean, df03:58
TiCPUdf -h    (for humans ;)03:58
markuusimple google search :P03:58
trfwhat is the purpose of "partprobe /dev/sda"03:59
TiCPUmarkuu, can you check if your EFI partition contains files?03:59
markuuhow03:59
TiCPUtrf: makes Linux understand that you removed all partitions from underneath03:59
trfthanks03:59
trfAlright, I'm off to do a fresh install04:00
TiCPUmarkuu, check if it is mounted first    grep sda1 /proc/mounts04:00
markuugood luck04:00
trfhave a good one04:00
trfthanks04:00
cofffeebean k  thanks - i did that  but the stuff it shows dont tell me anything i understand  ..04:00
TiCPUif it is mounted, go to the directory and check for a EFI folder04:00
markuunothing happened04:00
markuuunder /dev?04:00
TiCPUmarkuu, then you can mount it,   mkdir /mnt/sda1; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda104:01
markuuTiCPU: says only root can do that04:01
TiCPUsince this is the EFI partition, that's right04:02
TiCPUyou can sudo -i   first for this one04:02
* markuu lays down rolls over and cries04:02
TiCPUthen run       find /mnt/sda1           to get what's in there04:02
wsjI'm having apt-get update issues. it can't seem to connect. Something down or just me?04:03
markuuit's empty04:03
markuuubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1$04:03
TiCPUis it mounted now (the grep command)?04:03
cofffeebean  ohh no  i got listing of stuff  but not being used to linux & ubuntu  it looks dfferent from windows.., BUT i want to upgrade from 14.04lts to 16 lts & i did that the other night & after all done i had just one gig of drivespace left..04:04
markuuubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1$  does not give a response04:04
markuugrep sda1 /proc/mounts04:04
TiCPUwsj, http://isup.me/http://archive.ubuntu.com/04:05
cofffeebean  type that in terminal also ??..04:05
TiCPUmarkuu, then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1               that should mount it04:05
wsj@TiCPU, I checked around, and I can ping them just fine, but apt-get won't connect. googling led me to some ipv6 issues, but it's definitely just trying over ipv404:05
TiCPUthen cd /mnt/sda1  to switch there (yes you have to re-type it)04:05
markuuTiCPU: bash: cd: /sda1: No such file or directory04:06
markuui got it it says EFI04:07
markuuinside it has boot and ubuntu TiCPU04:07
markuuTiCPU: ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1/EFI$ ls boot  ubuntu04:08
TiCPUmarkuu, http://pastebin.com/ZzJbAKY404:09
markuuwhat is that04:09
TiCPUjust to show the content of the EFI folder04:09
TiCPUshould contain grubx64.efi or shim6404:09
markuuI don't have that :(04:10
TiCPUso when you type find /mnt/sda1   you only have folders?04:10
cofffeebeanHOW MUCH drivespace shud 16.04.1 lts take up ??..,  mines a 250gb drive ..04:11
markuuwait no they are there04:11
markuuTiCPU: http://pastebin.com/kWr2h8bD04:11
TiCPUBOOTX64.efi is Windows, don't know what are MokManager and fwupx64,  then Ubuntu is grub and shim04:12
markuuok04:13
markuuso what should i do.04:13
markuushould i remake the EFI partition04:13
TiCPUI'd create a zzz folder in /mnt/sda1/EFI  to move the boot folder in and the MokManager/fw/fwupx stuff in04:14
TiCPUor just delete them04:14
markuuok just delete what?04:14
TiCPUthere are still chances that the EFI boot manager persist in using BOOTX6404:15
TiCPU/mnt/sda1/EFI/boot04:15
markuuso delete boot6404:15
cluelesspersonHey guys, can someone help me understand why Chrome is giving me connection not private errors when connecting to big sites?04:15
TiCPU/mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu/fwupx64.efi /mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu/fw /mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu/MokManager.efi04:15
cluelesspersonNo extensions are interfereing04:15
TiCPUcluelessperson, you may be connected to a bad wifi04:16
TiCPUcluelessperson, or your clock is wrong04:16
Bashing-omcofffeebean: How much is taken up is a reletive question , Depends on what you did . You may show us the partitioning ' sudo parted -l ' and we can advise better on what is .04:16
cluelesspersonTiCPU, It's my personal wifi, it's confirmed04:16
TiCPUcluelessperson, check date&time04:16
cluelesspersonTiCPU, I think ti's a chrome bug, it's saying Certificate Transparency required04:16
markuuTiCPU: can you pm what to do the chat notifs are too much ty04:17
cluelesspersonDate and Time are fine04:17
cofffeebeanBashing-om,   PVT ??..04:17
Bashing-omcofffeebean: Best not .. peer reviews and education for all who observe .04:18
benguitarAnyone available to chat with me some about Ubuntu audio, I'm about 98% there with having my system configured but I am trying to resolve one last issue which I believe is related to an internal sample rate or clock mismatch somewhere.04:19
cage_raphelhello..04:29
cage_raphelneed assistance with errors after running update04:29
cage_raphelhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23515036/04:29
c-pinhoe the hell does shutter crash on upload04:35
c-pini cant find anybody with the same issue04:35
c-pini try to upload to imgur, i get errors on a jason bs04:36
c-pinif i upload to toilet, i just crash04:36
c-pinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/shutter/+bug/158411104:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1584111 in Shutter "cannot upload any images" [Undecided,New]04:37
c-pinthis is about right04:37
cage_raphelhelp with error during update pls!!04:44
bivoAnyone figure out how to get StreamTuner2 to actually play?04:44
bivoWhen I try to open a stream it opens Banshee, but nothing shows up in Banshee04:45
zzero1need some help with booting an efi stub without grub. I have an efi partition mounted in /boot and I followed these http://askubuntu.com/a/742154 instructions. I get a motherboard efi warning now that says the current bios settings do not fully support the boot device. Go to Advanced > CSM  to enable the boot device04:45
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zzero1I am open to ideas04:47
marku_TiCPU: no bootable device... gonna cry now.04:51
lotuspsychjemarku_: didnt follow but did you disable secureboot?04:52
marku_its enabled right now, but it was enabled when I had kubuntu on here before04:53
lotuspsychjemarku_: you dualboot?04:53
marku_not anymore, came with windows 10 then I removed it and have kubuntu now i installed ubuntu and it wont boot and TiCPU  has been helping me but nothing is working so far04:54
marku_i had Kubuntu*04:54
marku_been at this all day and its my only pc04:54
lotuspsychjemarku_: if you singleboot ubuntu, please disable secureboot and fastboot04:55
lotuspsychjemarku_: you might need a reinstall04:55
marku_i don't care about reinstalling i did it twice already lol04:55
marku_i disabled fastboot when i had windows04:56
Bashing-omcage_raphel: Vuvud is End_of_Life . But to answer your qust . compare cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list and tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and remove the duplicated entries .05:00
Bashing-omvivid*05:00
Bashing-omcage_raphel: But I do believe that the vivid repository has now been turned away .05:02
cage_raphelBashing-om, thanks mate!! i wish i understood all that what u said.. i am fairly new to ubuntu.. how do i compare?05:02
cage_raphelBashing-om, i am running ubuntu 15.04.. upgraded from 14.04 yesterday05:03
Bashing-omcage_raphel: Do not think that comparing the source list will in the end be any value as vivid is no longer supported. The repo no longer exist . Ya need to upgrade to a current release .05:03
cage_raphelBashing-om, awesome!!! how do i upgrade to current release?05:04
Bashing-om!eol | cage_raphel05:05
ubottucage_raphel: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:05
Marku__TiCPU: :(05:05
Marku__No bootable device hell05:05
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TiCPUMarku__, welp; you've drained the idea fountain.05:06
lotuspsychjeMarku__: ...disable secureboot?05:06
Marku__Time to buy windows, thanks for the help man appreciate it.05:06
Marku__lotuspsychje: no, id dint have to on kubuntu05:06
Marku__I hate windos but i need a pc for school05:07
lotuspsychjeMarku__: that doesnt mean its the right thing to do05:07
Bashing-omcage_raphel: If ya want to fo that route ^ . it will be 14.10 -> EOL 15.04 -> EOL 15.10 -> 16.04 .. a long long hard road . nmuch easier to back up your personal files and do a clean install .05:07
lotuspsychjeMarku__: you said you need singleboot ubuntu, so disable secureboot05:07
Marku__ok05:08
Marku__i wil try it again05:08
Marku__brb again :P05:08
zzero1inside the efi setup there is a boot override option that boots any device available directly when I click it. When I add my entry with the efibootmgr I see a black screen and it returns to the same efi setup screen05:08
zzero1Am I to assume that it cannot find something to boot there ?05:09
cage_raphelBashing-om, is there a command i can run to upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 and then to 16.04?05:11
marku_secureboot is disabled still no bootable device is fount05:12
cashHi Guys how do I blacklist an update in the apt package manager?  I dont wanna perform an update that shows as available, but i want the other packages05:12
Bashing-omcage_raphel: Not that easy . ya got to change your sources list ( after fixing) with each update .. spend all the time and bandwidth updating to the next release and repeat repeat repeat . The tutorial from the bot has the directions .05:12
lotuspsychjemarku_: you need to reinstall, press F12 to boot your ubuntu usb05:13
rocketbombhi05:13
cage_raphelBashing-om, thanks mate... sounds like a long rough route.. but i think its worth a try05:13
marku_lotuspsychje: the usb boots automatic, I guess i will try and reinstall after the third time lol05:13
marku_if this does not work, I will be off to the hell of windows world thanks ubuntu support05:14
lotuspsychjemarku_: no bootable device, means its not automatic05:14
marku_No the usb boots when it is inserted05:14
marku_when the usb is not inserted is when nothing boots05:14
lotuspsychjemarku_: if you cant install ubuntu, its not our lack...dont givce up too easy05:14
Bashing-omcage_raphel: Hey, your call and time .. and the effort is worth the while for the learning curve . If ya going to, we have to fix those duplicated entries first .05:15
marku_I'm not blaming anyone, I had kubuntu on here for a year05:15
marku_I had ubunu on my last machine05:15
marku_ I have been on here all day, and I simply thanked those who helped me05:15
kostkoncash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction_to_Holding_Packages05:15
marku_I have installed Ubuntu since 12.0405:16
cage_raphelBashing-om, i just came across something online.. it says running update-manager -d will help me upgrade easily..  will this be worth a try??05:16
marku_well, see if reinstall works thanks TiCPU and others05:16
TiCPUmarku_ good luck05:17
TiCPUcash, easy way is also to apt-mark hold <package>05:17
Bashing-omcage_raphel: nope .. that -d is for (D)evelopment release . The path is from one release to next in line untill you reach a current release .05:18
cashTiCPU05:18
cashkostkon05:18
kostkoncage_raphel, you could have updated from 14.04 to 16.04 directly, now that has become more cumbersome05:18
cashI want to hold a driver update, and i think its 304.132-0ubuntu005:18
cashbut when i type sudo apt-mark hold 304.132-0ubuntu0 i get errors05:19
cage_raphelkostkon, how do we do that ??05:19
TiCPUcash: apt-mark hold <package>   not version05:19
cashin search it came up as xenial-updates,xenial-security 304.132-0ubuntu0.16.04.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 304.131-0ubuntu3]05:19
kostkoncash, what TiCPU said05:19
TiCPUcash in your case that is nvidia-304  something05:20
cashkoston and TiCPU i understand the command, here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/6n477HT4.  Can you help me find out the package name?05:20
kostkoncage_raphel, if you are willing to attempt follow the instuctions05:20
kostkon!eolupgrades05:20
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:20
TiCPUcash: nvidia-30405:20
cage_raphelkostkon, sure05:20
kostkonit*05:20
cashthanks05:20
cashNice!  TiCPU and kostkon thank you05:21
crazyhorse18how do i make a shortcut on the desktop to a terminal application?>05:21
cashSee thats why I talk to the experts on the ubuntu chat05:21
cash:)05:21
kostkoncash, np05:21
crazyhorse18basically i want to open a terminal window, cd to a directory, run a command and keep the window open05:22
glitchdwhat would it take to be able to drag different open windows between 2 linux machines?05:22
cashkostkon but when i type sudo apt update this package shows up again :(05:22
kostkoncash, what does apt say about it?05:23
TiCPUcash it won't update05:23
cashit says 1 package can be updated05:23
cash:(05:23
cashso if i type sudo apt upgrade it wont happen since its held?05:23
kostkoncash, well just ignore that :P05:23
kostkoncash, fingers crossed yes05:24
cashAhhh it worked!!!!05:24
cashI was scared05:24
cashthank you05:24
kostkoncash, job well done05:24
cashguys my computer is a relic and im a noob. its livin life on the edge between function and destruction05:25
cashThanks Team05:25
kostkoncash, you are doing fine so far i reckon05:25
venzenglitchd: package synaptic, a network connection between the hosts and websearch how to configure05:28
venzenglitchd: sorry, no05:28
cashHi guys05:28
cashthanks for the suppt05:28
venzenglitchd: i misread your q05:28
glitchdvenzen, lol05:28
glitchdvenzen, np05:28
glitchdvenzen, im trying to figure it out05:29
venzenglitchd: also the package i was thinking of is called synergy (not synaptic)05:29
glitchdvenzen, i already use synergy05:29
glitchdvenzen, but i cant drag windows from one machine to the other05:29
glitchdvenzen, but the clipboard does work between the 2 machines05:29
venzenglitchd: Xwindows perhaps? not exactly drag and drop but you can see the remote window locally05:30
cashback05:30
cashhad to recreate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:30
glitchdvenzen, well the 2 machine are directly next to each other already, so seeing the machine is not really the goal here05:31
glitchdvenzen, i alrady share a mouse/keyboard the 2 machines, my next goal is to be able to drag from one screen to the next05:31
venzenglitchd: i don't want to say 'never' but it seems a lot of effort (passing window info, state, contents) at the WM level...05:33
venzenglitchd: if you leave the monitor/screen out of reckoning for now, think about what it is you're passing: an OS window manager object05:34
venzenglitchd: so you're wanting to pass the window object (e.g. gtk) from one OS to another05:36
piousminionHi, how do I.. basically "factory reset" mysql-server?05:36
glitchdvenzen, yes, and each machine is rurnning ubuntu05:36
venzenassuming the OSses are identical, you can pass the object via network, then feed it to e.g. GTK, to rebuild it05:38
glitchdvenzen, im trying to figure out how to do that05:39
venzenit should be possible but you'll have to learn about creating GTK windows: 1) what components to store, 2) rebuild a GTK object from those components, 3) pass across the network (python should allow for this)05:40
venzenso given the tasklist, your job is cut out for you: learn GTK and pyGTK! :)05:40
glitchdim more surpised something like thie doesnt exist already..05:40
venzenwell, what is the practical application?05:40
venzenwhat usecase you thinking of?05:41
glitchdvenzen, this of a group all working on a project, on person finds somethign and wants to show it to another memeber of the group that is on a different computer, instead of copying it to media, they could just drag it from one desktop to the other05:42
glitchdseamlessly05:42
venzenok, your usecase makes sense: however, practically, it would make more sense to pass the image/content across the network and then pop-up a new native window on the destination host05:44
glitchdwell that would achieve basically the same thign05:45
glitchdthing05:45
venzenyes, with less low level code, CPU resources, time and network load... not that those would be heavy for your usecase, but simply having an applet with options to "send to John", "send to Alice", etc and then a listener on each connected host that will parse JSON is easily achievable05:47
venzen"easily" being relative to your know-how, but the design described above seems the straightest path05:48
glitchdi just posted my question in #synergy05:50
venzenwe're a bit off-topic here, but to conclude: you could pass a URL to webpage/image/etc as JSON to the destination host. Its listener receives the JSON and shows the URL in a new browser window if its a webpage, in ImageViewer, if its an image, etc. Actually, most URLs will display fine in a browser05:51
glitchdvenzen, i appreciate you working on this with me, but i have no idea how to do any of what you just said05:52
venzenglitchd: np, but if you lack the know-how to do the above then coding it at the WM and window (eg GTK) level will be more difficult. Maybe a solution exists for your usecase, but it will be closer to the design i described than to your (logical) proposal of moving actual window objects around between hosts05:55
glitchdvenzen, alrighty then, thx for the knowledge05:56
venzenglitchd: thubmsup05:56
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LinuxNovicehello...06:15
venzenhi, go ahead06:16
LinuxNoviceI needed some help in choosing a lightweight linux distro for my very old laptop.I checked various distros. Just wanted some thoughts on which is better Lubuntu or LXLE?Needed to know, in terms of performance is Lubuntu better than LXLE.06:17
venzeni use Lubuntu, but cannot comment on LXLE06:18
venzennever used it06:18
LinuxNoviceok.06:18
LinuxNoviceIt says it is based on Lubuntu.06:18
venzenLubuntu has always done well by me - light on resources, reliable...06:19
LinuxNoviceI too have used it. It is a great distro.06:19
LinuxNovicewhich one would you suggest 16.04 or 16.10?06:20
LinuxNoviceand which other lightweigh distro would you suggest?06:21
venzenLinuxNovice: i would suggest Lubuntu 16.04 because its LTS - long-term support06:21
LinuxNoviceok06:22
venzenbear in mind that a lightweight distro ceases to be lightweight when you use heavy-duty apps...06:22
venzenwhat would you use your old laptop for mostly?06:22
LinuxNoviceMostly Libre Office, Some audio and video players like VLC06:24
LinuxNoviceI need a good pdf software and probably wine also.06:24
LinuxNoviceI have an old laptop of 2gb ram, 40 gb hdd, Intel Celeron M processor with 1.5 Ghz.06:25
venzenhmmm, LibreOffice is resource heavy - especially memory, Wine can be superheavy on resources, depending on what you run with it - it has to constantly translate between windows DLL and linux libraries06:26
venzenwith that hardware you should be fine using Lubuntu06:26
LinuxNoviceok.06:27
LinuxNovicecan I expect significant changes between 16.04 and 16.10. I mean, in performance, security and in any other aspect?06:28
piousminionHeavy apps are heavy, yeah, but you don't need a DE using up all the resources that would have been available to said heavy app.06:28
LinuxNoviceI don't mind reinstalling the OS when the next release happens.06:28
LinuxNovicepiousminion: I agree with you. So, which one would you suggest?06:30
LinuxNovicepiousminion: Have you used LXLE?06:30
piousminionLinuxNovice: That depends on your experience. If you're noobish, go with the latest lubuntu lts. IF you're know what you're doing.... ArchLinux.06:30
piousminionI've not used LXDE. In fact, I've never heard of it until now.  That says a lot in itself.06:31
piousminioner, LXLE06:31
LinuxNovicepiousminion: I'm a newbie to Linux. Just one month old here.06:32
piousminionLinuxNovice: Then I'd certainly recommend Lubuntu 16.04.06:32
venzensame06:33
venzenLinuxNovice: with older hardware you want a distro that has lots of experience dealing with the old drivers, via experience and a large userbase06:33
LinuxNovicepiousminion: Why? what's the reason? as I said,  I don't mind reinstalling the OS with a newer release.06:33
piousminionI mean, 16.10 is newer, but the version differences are so small, you wouldn't notice any difference at all.06:34
FireStrikerHey I'm trying to install lubuntu and it complain about not being able to find a backlight controller than start to flash like mad at me06:34
humbleHello all. I am having a problem with a mouse i am trying to connect to my ubuntu with bluetooth.  Bluetooth finds it but when i press continue to automatic pin it doesnt pair. when i press continue without pin it connects but it doesnt pair.06:34
humblecan someone help me pls ?06:34
venzenLinuxNovice: i don't know what the LXLE team's like or what their experience is, but with Lubuntu you're getting all the benefit from Debian (upstream) to Ubuntu and then to Lubuntu.06:35
LinuxNovicevenzen: I can see that. I can expect my queries to be answered here. But, it seems LXLE community is somewhat small. Never got any reply on IRC there.06:36
RatchetTheGamerHi how do I change grub so it's not uefi or something, I want to I install ubuntu06:37
RatchetTheGamerUninstall06:37
venzenLinuxNovice: as piousminion says, the differences are small but as months become years you'll be glad you chose the LTS (16.04) because 16.10 support will fall away. If there is something in 16.10 you specifically need then ok choose it, but for what you describe 16.10 is a good choice06:37
LinuxNovicevenzen: then, shall I choose 16.10?06:38
LinuxNovicewhen is the next LTS going to be released?06:39
piousminionLinuxNovice: That, and the vast majority of "Ubuntu" information you find online will apply to Lubuntu as well.  He meant 16.04  :P06:39
FireStrikerIf you want light weight and a bigger comintut go for xubuntu06:39
piousminionFireStriker: Given just how low his specs are, lubuntu is the better choice here.06:40
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FireStrikerOk06:40
piousminionFireStriker: I'd prefer xubuntu too, but we're talking celeron here. :P06:40
LinuxNoviceI read somewhere that in next release of Ubuntu, there is going to be significant difference. what is that?06:41
venzenLinuxNovice: my previous msg has an error - change 16.10 at the end for 16.04.    16.04 is the recommended LTS version06:41
FireStrikerHow old is the CPU?06:42
LinuxNoviceand also, came across somewhere on the internet that Lubuntu will be adopting LXQT. What is that and what changes can we expect?06:42
LinuxNovicethe laptop was bought in 2005, I think. It is Acer Travelmate 2420.06:43
FireStrikerI also want to know what that means bc I'm installing ubuntu to the HP in front of me atm06:43
FireStrikerYea stick with lubuntu06:43
FireStrikerHi bashing-om06:44
FireStrikerOh he left lol06:45
LinuxNovicehello...06:45
venzenLinuxNovice: LXQt is a desktop environment based on the Qt windowing system. Previously (and still) many desktop apps are built with GTK (Gnome) windowing system...06:46
Fujkcan you use the glob matching syntax to search inside files and not in filenames? for example matching lines containing "*foobar*" in file.txt ?06:46
LinuxNoviceok.06:46
RatchetTheGamer Hi how do I change grub so it is skipped by the computer and boots into win 10 I want to Uninstall ubuntu (uefi)06:46
venzenFujk: you can use grep for that: grep -ls 'myserachterm' ./06:47
vegombreihello how do i connect my go pro with ubuntu06:47
vegombreiit doesnt recognise the hardware06:47
humbleHello all. I am having a problem with a mouse i am trying to connect to my ubuntu with bluetooth.  Bluetooth finds it but when i press continue to automatic pin it doesnt pair. when i press continue without pin it connects but it doesnt pair. can someone help me pls ?06:47
venzenFujk: grep -ls 'mysearchterm' ./ will output files that contain 'mysearchterm'06:48
Fujkvenzen: doesnt work with * and ?06:48
Fujkfoo*bar06:48
LinuxNovicethanks a lot guys, for your inputs. I'll consider Lubuntu 16.04.06:49
FireStrikerHey I'm trying to install lubuntu and it complained about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like mad06:50
venzenFujk: i just checked, if you remove the quote marks mysearchterm is interpreted as a regex, so you can use * and ? but according to regex rules not shell rules!06:52
venzenFujk: e.g. grep -ls my*term ./06:52
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PrezTrumpubuntu says "8 packages available" on the motd06:55
PrezTrumpbut no matter what, i can't update06:55
PrezTrumpwhat's going on?06:55
PrezTrumpwhen i actually do apt-get upgrade it says no packages available for update06:56
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hateballPrezTrump: use apt full-upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade06:58
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RatchetTheGamerHow do I change grub so it is skipped by the computer and boots into win 10 I want to Uninstall ubuntu (uefi)07:03
clairvoyant_spirhmm07:05
hateballRatchetTheGamer: ##windows probably knows how to do that without breaking your windows install07:08
RatchetTheGamerHow?07:08
emit_timeCan anyone hear me07:08
RatchetTheGamerAlso how would I go about uninstalling it07:08
Flannelemit_time: yes.07:09
FireStrikerNo I can't hear you emit_time but I can see your message07:09
emit_timeLol07:09
emit_timeThanks07:09
vegombreihi is there a way to make my own vpn07:09
vegombreimebbe using a raspberry pi07:09
FireStrikerI think so but I don't know how to go about it07:10
fn2Yes.07:10
hateball!vpn07:11
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN07:11
drexhi i am using ubuntu 16.04 on asus r558uf.  touchpad worked only once but after reboot its not working07:11
fn2try usi g the touchpad disab07:12
fn2e key07:12
RatchetTheGamerhateball: what do you mean ?07:12
drexi have already tried booting with i8042.reset  but its not working. fn2: hardware key is on07:13
RD-SAO_FanHey does any one know if you can add the volume up/down sound to xubuntu. It's missing in xubuntu besides it being in ubuntu and lubuntu07:14
fn2drex: Before login try pressing it, I have seen a few laptops not work unless you press it before the login screen.07:14
drexfn2 : yes i already tried that07:14
UltimateKaratei need pix of a juicy vag07:16
UltimateKaratewhere do i go to download juicy cunt pics?07:16
cfhowlettrd-07:17
cfhowlett!ops | UltimateKarate07:17
ubottuUltimateKarate: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu07:17
UltimateKaratevag vag vag07:17
cfhowlettban requested elky07:17
cfhowletttyvm07:17
FireStrikerHey I'm trying to install lubuntu and it complained about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like Madars07:21
FireStrikerMad07:21
RatchetTheGamerHow do i uninstall ubuntu on a uefi computer I have a dual boot of window 1007:24
cfhowlett!dualboot | RatchetTheGamer07:24
ubottuRatchetTheGamer: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot07:24
RatchetTheGamer? So how do I uninstall ubuntu?07:27
cfhowletthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on#14348207:28
FireStrikerI'm trying to install Ubuntu/Lubuntu and it complain about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like mad. How do i fix this07:30
RatchetTheGamerThanks07:30
aotdo I need to put 2&> /dev/null in the end of a cron line like this service apache2 restart07:31
RD-SAO_FanHey does any one know if you can add the volume up/down sound to xubuntu. It's missing in xubuntu besides it being in ubuntu and lubuntu07:33
cfhowlettRD-SAO_Fan, best ask #xubuntu and #xfce07:33
RD-SAO_FanOk thanks07:33
FireStrikerHey cfhowlett do you know what the problem is?07:35
cfhowlettnope.  thus my silence.  :)07:36
FireStrikerK07:36
FireStrikerMan this is doing my head in07:36
FireStrikerThe laptop it's self just did my head into. Stupid thing there's no explanation for what's it doing on windows alone07:37
karthykIs apt-get open source07:43
karthykLike can I look at its code07:43
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cfhowlettof course, karthyk but note that apt has been deprecated.  apt is the new deal07:44
hheeguys, which software ubuntu has to simple todo with time notify?07:46
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borw3I am using ubuntu-mate, but can't set system wide proxy08:10
borw3can anyone assist me please?08:10
enycborw3: i'm not 100% such a thing exists per-se .. but ...08:11
borw3but...? I set the proxy settings in network proxy, but terminal apt-get is not using it08:11
enycborw3: aaaah... was just lookingc this up...08:12
borw3enyc: you have same problem?08:12
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enycborw3: ok.  apt CAN be set with a separate config entry in  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/something ....  however...  environment variables may be sufficient08:12
enycborw3:  system-wide   http_proxy=http://proxy.server:port/    and   https_proxy=   and  ftp_proxy=   similarly...08:13
RD-SAO_Fancfhowlett: they don't know08:13
borw3enyc: I did something like this, but doesn't seem to take effect08:13
RD-SAO_FanWould it be part of the de?08:14
cfhowlettRD-SAO_Fan, #xfce is the DE08:14
enycborw3: debian  used to respond to an  /etc/environment   file  for systemwide ...08:15
borw3enyc: I did that too, but it doesn't seem to work in mate.08:15
borw3ubuntu-mate08:15
enycborw3: well... check in roots' terminal.. do   "sudo -s" to become root, then   echo $http_proxy    ...08:15
RD-SAO_FanIk I'm talking about the volume sound part of ubuntu should that be part of the de so that if I load unity it should be there?08:16
cfhowlettRD-SAO_Fan, try it and see08:16
borw3enyc: It shows me that I am using the proxy, but can't apt-get08:17
RD-SAO_FanOk08:17
enycborw3: ok in which case ts' geting to that point.....08:17
enycborw3: i was going to say that   sudo  can complicate maters as per   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#sudo_caveat08:17
enycborw3: you may do best to  sort out  an  apt.conf.d   setting therefore08:18
ra21vion dell 7559 with 16.10, it freezes when i resume from suspend. Found on SO, that turning PWR Mgmt off for wifi will fix it. how can i turn off wifi per mgmt off ?08:18
glitchdra21vi, what is "SO"08:20
ra21viglitchd, stackOverflow site08:21
glitchdoh08:21
glitchdra21vi, your computer freezes on resume from suspend if wifi is enabled?08:21
ra21viglitchd, i have not tested it after disabling wifi.. but sometimes it freezes and sometimes it works08:22
ra21viglitchd, my wifi is always on08:23
glitchdthen how do you know its related to wifi?08:23
glitchdoh08:23
glitchdyou found a related article on SO08:23
glitchdok08:23
ra21viyup08:24
glitchdwell try it, disable wifi then suspend08:25
borw3enyc: Wow, it started picking, I don't know why, but thank you.08:26
glitchdsee if it comes back up or freezes08:26
ra21viglitchd, that will take a lot of time. Since I have not faced this issue in short suspend yet.. means if I suspend for 10-15 mins, i remember it works.. but if I suspend and sleep, comeback after few hours, it may or maynot work08:28
ra21vido you want me to suspend and go on sleep08:28
SebthreeBQM10HDh08:29
SebthreeBQM10HDi08:29
ra21vianyone here to help me with my suspend issue.. i keep losing work08:30
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ducassera21vi: try 'sudo iw dev <devname> set power_save off'08:34
PrezTrumpd08:35
ra21viducasse, that I will have to do everytime i loggin? or after resume?08:39
ducassera21vi: before suspending08:40
ra21viducasse, is there anyway to add in some config and not to do manually?08:40
glitchdra21vi, you can set that command to a hotkey08:42
ra21viglitchd, I will have to press hotkey manually ...08:43
ducassera21vi: find out if it has any effect first08:43
ra21viducasse, ok08:43
glitchdgotta go!08:48
el_bambaHi all! Someone know if i can use letsencrypt with Squid https proxy (with exception of end2end enc. of course)?08:49
ra21viducasse, that didn't work, for first time i saw a console error message.. earlier only froze mouse pointer was shown08:50
ra21vierror is - NVRM - GPU has fallen off the bus08:50
ra21vistupid driver is not taking care of bumps... and things are falling off the bus08:50
JBzhGood morning. I'm stuck on my Ubuntu14.04 workstation since yesterday and can't find why: with virt-manager I included my network interface in a bridge, it didn't work well. Now I have no network at all. Can someone help me please ? I'm searching since..08:53
JBzhI removed br0, and I can't restart networking service without rebooting: Job failed while stopping08:54
sijohi08:57
imrgHi guys09:03
imrgI'm stuck in a login loop, behing unable to connect with any user at once logged in, it goes back to login screen. Thankfully I can log in with ssh from another pc. Any idea ?09:05
indistyloKindly help to resolve this python-mysql-connector error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516018/09:08
ra21viducasse, that didn't work.. even after applying pm off for wifi, my laptop freezes on resume from suspend09:15
Darko17Hi, peeps!09:15
ducasseindistylo: as i asked yesterday - why not use the repo package? we can't support things you install with pip.09:16
indistyloducasse, sorry I missed yesterd, can you elaborate more, I did not get what you said09:19
ducasseindistylo: you are installing with pip, but there is a package in the official repos.09:20
rxsskiAnyone have experience setting up multiple local dev sites with xampp/lampp? can't seem to get it to work with virtualhosts'09:21
indistyloducasse, apt-cache search mysql-connector-python , it does not show any package09:22
trijntje_Ubuntu is using 26GB of RAM on my system, but when I look in the system monitor there is no process that uses that much. How can I figure out what is using that RAM?09:22
whoami_hello , can help me , i want to install gambas3 on my notebook linux lubuntu but still error's maybye wrong repository any one can tell me about repository for gambass309:22
Myrisrxsski what is the problem exactly?09:22
ducasseindistylo: for python3 it is python3-mysql-connector iirc09:22
rxsskiTrying to set it up to where I can have multiple 'sites' I can dev on a local machine w/ ubuntu09:22
rxsskiex. localhost2, localhost3, where each points to diff directory, so i can work onmultiple sites09:23
rxsskicant get lampp/apache to get virtual hosts to work09:23
brotherBoxhi guys. im using the GUI installer on an UEFI system and i want to use my ESP partition as /boot, but the interface wont let me. it seems to be common practice though. is there a way to use ESP as /boot?09:25
rxsskihaving just one site worked (i.e. localhost), but I've tried to set up a few virtual host directives, and it seems to not want to work09:25
rxsskiUEFI and linux...oh boy have fun09:26
ducasseindistylo: python3-mysql.connector, sorry09:26
brotherBoxrxsski: its not that bad09:27
manlinHi i want to host a ppa on my mirror server so that all LAN hosts can install from my mirror ppa. how to go about doing this?09:27
TomyWorkrxsski how did you get the idea that that would be problematic? every computer and their dog uses uefi these days. there is just no way around it, so of course linux works with it, and well09:28
brotherBoxyeab thats my experience as well09:30
imrgso anyone... fluent with logging loop ?09:31
trijntje_Ubuntu is using way too much memory, how can I figure out where it is going?09:31
imrgI've reinstalled ubuntu twice, it's always getting stuck in a loging loop after a couple of reboot09:32
brotherBoxwhat do you mean logging loop?09:32
brotherBoxtrijntje_: why do you think its using too much memory?09:32
imrglogin in with any user, it loads a bit then back to logging screen09:33
brotherBoxlogging or login?09:33
trijntje_brotherBox: It's using 26GB, which is quite a lot in my opinion ;)09:33
imrglogin, sorry09:33
brotherBoximrg: are you sure youre entering the right credentials? sorry if that question sounds stupid09:33
brotherBoxtrijntje_: you can try to see top/htop to see what processes take up the most memory, but linux has a very forward memory allocating strategy09:34
nikrei have many zip rar tar.gz files in one folder. i want each compressed file extract to a folder preserving its name like name.format output to name folder. is there an easy way to do this on ubuntu?09:34
imrgI'm adamant about any one the usual case : good login, happens with all users, using ssh from another station work, .Xauthority or any other file belong to user:user with proper rights, ...09:34
brotherBoxyou may want to see the .profile or .bashrc file09:35
imrgthey're clean of anything09:35
brotherBoxdid you check if anything is written to /var/log/syslog09:35
imrgthat's a fresh install, I had zsh installed but created another user with default /bin/bash, same issue09:36
imrgthere's a pam_kwallet.so issue that I fixed09:36
trijntje_brotherBox: top shows 2 processes that use 1.5 and 1.2GB each, and after that its just 200MB for firefox, and the usual system process like compiz, xorg etc09:36
imrganother "lightdm[1056]: Failed to open CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files", no real idea about this09:36
imrg(in journalctl, not syslog)09:37
brotherBoxyeah im not used to using systemd facilities lol09:37
brotherBoxtrijntje_: are those processes system processes or user processes?09:37
brotherBoximrg: that sounds really strange, maybe try bash instead of zsh but other than that im out of ideas tbh09:38
imrgbrotherBox: I tried09:39
trijntje_brotherBox: the top two processes are user processes, two analysis programs I'm running. They run for a long time, so I can't just kill them or reboot the pc09:39
imrgI also tried nuking nvidia's driver in case (inspiron 7559)09:39
brotherBoximrg: does that happen on a 100% vanilla as well?09:40
imrgtrijntje : free -h ?09:40
imrgbrotherBox: can't really tell, gotta work to do, I don't wait for it to crash before starting installing my workstation :-/09:40
imrgtrijntje: I guess all your memory is used as file caching, not much to worry about. Some tools are a bit missleading about this, try htop or glances from a term09:42
brotherBoxtrijntje_: so, uh, it may be a problem with your analysis program...also what imrg says09:42
imrgwell, I'm gonna nuke this install again and go for another flavor, linux mint09:43
trijntje_imrg, brotherBox: I dont think its chache http://pastebin.com/Kzv9sSUd09:43
brotherBoxhttp://www.linuxatemyram.com/09:44
imrgindeed09:45
trijntje_brotherBox: thats not it, when you look at the output from free -h. There is only 5GB in buffers/cache09:45
trijntje_imrg, brotherBox: free -h shows I have only 12GB available, out of 39GB total. So that means that the rest of the RAM is used by programs, not buffers cache. Right?09:51
imrgy09:51
trijntje_imrg: so, how can I find out where the other 25GB went? If I look in top, its not being used by any process09:52
brotherBoxas it says on the side, it may be disk caching09:52
trijntje_brotherBox: not its not, the 'available' column shows that09:53
imrgOtherwise get your showel and dig in the processes. Stuff like http://superuser.com/questions/398862/linux-find-out-what-process-is-using-all-the-ram#39887009:53
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Mathishey10:00
Mathisgot a question about xscreensaver... to avoid accidentially hitting a button on screen, how do you disable that xscreensaver passes through the mouse click onto the applications downunder?10:00
trijntje_imrg: I'll try asking in #linux, ps just shows the same info as top, eg 2 processes that use 1.5GB each, and after that only a few 100MB ones (firefox etc), and then even smaller ones. Nowhere for 20GB to hide10:00
rohit_join ##C++-general10:15
LinuxNovicehi, what is difference between LXDE and LXQT? Which one is faster and more suitable for old laptops?10:17
radnaksizmhello10:21
LinuxNovicehi..10:23
Prakash_hey I want to use fingerprint device morpho MSO 1300 E2 in ubuntu? I am not able to find any driver for it.10:24
LinuxNoviceI am totally new to Linux. Don't have any idea what you are telling.10:25
radnaksizmis this like mirc?10:25
Myrismirc is a tool to use irc :P10:26
radnaksizmis this a tool like mirc?10:26
imrgLinuxNovice: no idea, official Lubuntu is LXDE, adviced for old stuff : https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours10:27
LinuxNoviceok. LXLE is not an officially recognized distro?10:28
imrgnever heard of LXLE or LXQT. There's LXDE and XFCE10:30
trijntje_imrg, brotherBox: I'll swallow my pride and reboot the PC, since I have no idea where the RAM went ;) Thanks for your help10:32
m1dnight_Is there a tool that allows me to assign time slots to users on a server? I.e., that user can login from time x to y, etc?10:45
m1dnight_The goal is to schedule a benchmarking server over several users so that they can use disjoint timeslots.10:45
hateballm1dnight_: gui or ssh ?10:51
hateballm1dnight_: anyhow, there is /etc/security/time.conf, but it may not be super admin-friendly depending on amount of users etc10:53
m1dnight_well, I'd prefer a GUI. Writing some php app to make it easier would help. But I'm looking for a good basis.11:01
m1dnight_I;'ll give that a look. Thanks.11:01
m1dnight_(Oh, SSH login, yes)11:01
SAO-Fan-RDI'm doing an advance install of ubuntu what do I want my partitions to be?11:01
m1dnight_We don't know what you want, I guess.11:02
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RainbowDash-SAO_It's all fiting into a 128gb ssd11:03
nikrehow can i have a shell script run once for each matching file of asterisk symbol?11:03
RainbowDash-SAO_I want to know how to set up the swap and other partions that is needed11:04
nikreyou can skip the swap partition on an ssd11:05
nikreiirc11:05
nikrejust have a single / partition11:05
badsector_Hi. how can ssh via one machine to other but I need to pass key11:05
cripcateHey guys, more of a linux than an ubuntu question: If I want to synchronize the contentes of a folder with another folder, (say Dropbox and owncloud folders) is it enough to symlink the two?11:06
RainbowDash-SAO_My mestake my friend 128gb partition of a hdd, don't have the ssd yet lol, though it was installed lol11:06
Zencripcate: Thats hardly syncronising, you only have 1 copy of the data11:07
RainbowDash-SAO_Um autocorrect go home your drunk11:07
badsector_I tried ssh -i key.pem user@remote_1_machine -L 1010:user@remote2:2211:07
RainbowDash-SAO_I have a 128gb partition11:07
ZenIf thats fine and you don't care, sure symlink, but if its for a backup purpose or similar, not good11:07
RainbowDash-SAO_HDD, would i need swap?11:07
badsector_then ssh -l user -i key.pem -p 1010 localhost11:08
badsector_but getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host11:08
cripcateZen, okay, how would i synchronize the content? I have my documents in dropbox, but I'd like to make a backup in owncloud automatically11:08
Zencripcate: rsync11:09
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badsector_I add AllowTCP Forwarding yes11:09
cripcateZen, tyty11:09
badsector_any ideas what I missed11:09
RatchetTheGamerI have a computer which I'm doing an advance install of xubuntu on. It's going on to a 128gb hdd. How would I set up the partitions11:13
RatchetTheGamer22:13 RatchetTheGamer I have a computer which I'm doing an advance install of xubuntu on. It's going on to a 128gb partition. How would I set up the partitions11:30
cripcateZen, should i run rsync as a cronjob then?11:32
mcphailRatchetTheGamer: any reason not to accept the defaults? For most people, an optional swap partition, EFI partition if needed and then the rest as / is ideal11:32
ZenIf you want it to run periodically then yes11:32
cripcateZen, yeah, that would be good. The optimum would be to trigger rsync each time something inside either folder is updated, but i guess you would need a script for that11:33
cripcateZen, once a day or so is probably enough for backup purposes11:34
ZenTheres also a limit to how many folders you can watch anyway11:34
Zencripcate: should be fine11:34
RatchetTheGamerI have a partition which I would like to keep on this hard drive11:37
whothehellamihi, I am trying to start an opencl program via ssh -X and I want to see the GUI locally but I get an error "X Error of failed request:  BadValue". can you help me?11:37
whothehellamiit is working if I start the program directly on the server11:38
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RatchetTheGamermcphail: I have a partition which I would like to keep on this hard drive, I just want to know how to set up the partition11:39
LeeArvinI am a newcomer11:39
LeeArvinhow to setup depend on what you want11:40
LeeArvinc u11:40
LeeArvinecit11:40
LeeArvinexit11:41
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Zeno.o11:41
LeeArvinand how quit11:41
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RatchetTheGamerLol11:41
RatchetTheGamerWell we all were like that at one stage11:42
Zennah, I just pkill the process instead11:42
Zen/s11:42
prtg02hi all :)11:43
md_hello11:44
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Guest97842when i prime select intel, i cannot login.. any workaround? the screen freeze at console11:45
prtg02I am thinking about adding a single box to my network, that will act as VPN client for the whole network. I sure can use ubuntu, but would that be the easiest way? would it be less or more secure or easier to use a smaller linux distro than ubuntu?11:45
korosohey all i'm on lubuntu and i have download a file .tar.gz ! How can i install it from terminale plz11:54
korosowhat is the command11:54
koroso;)11:54
korosowhen i write : sudo alien -k it doesnt work11:54
discopatrickwhat considerations would i need to make if i wanted to upgrade apt packages while other software (e.g. web server, db server) was running on the machine?11:56
discopatrickassuming that, at some point, the web/db server software will be upgraded11:57
korosook i resolved it : unzip package and lunch install ;)11:58
someone235HI, I want to change my home partition size, but for some reason it has minimum size. Someone knows how to fix it?12:03
ra21viimrg, i just got into login loop, after switching graphics driver12:07
ra21viubuntu on laptop and desk is PITA... and no one have idea ;(12:08
vltsomeone235: What did you do, what did you expect to happen and what happened instead?12:08
someone235vlt, I want to reduce the size from 82 GB to 72 GB (via gparted). There are 15GB of unused space, but the minimum size is 82 GB12:10
cfhowlettsomeone235, are you still booted in that ubuntu you are trying to partition??12:12
someone235cfhowlett, yes12:12
vltsomeone235: To be able to reduce a partition with a file system on it, you first have to reduce the size of the file system. I don’t know gparted well enough to say if it would do also that for you.12:13
cfhowlettsomeone235, nope.  you cannot repartition a live system.  boot an ubuntu CD, start gparted and12:13
BluesKajHey folks12:15
someone235cfhowlett, is there a way without live cd?12:15
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cfhowlettsomeone235, repart'ing a hot system is technically possible with some force but you will almost certainly break things.12:16
peyamhi12:18
peyamI use the dictionary in xfce. I wonder if I could add swedish dictionary. but I think I need a dictionary server or somthing12:18
peyamdo you know a good list of those12:18
cfhowlettpeyam, do you have swedish language support installed?12:18
peyamwhat do you mean? my xubuntu is in english12:19
peyambut it should have swedish support12:19
cfhowlettpeyam, install the swedish language on your ubuntu12:19
peyamwhy? I dont want it12:19
cfhowlettpeyam, the xfce dictionary uses your base language.  no swedish language, no xfce dictionary support12:20
peyamyou could add a webserver too12:20
cfhowlettpeyam, see Web-Based Dictionaries  http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict12:21
peyamthanks12:22
cfhowletthappy2help! peyam12:22
whothehellamiHello, I am trying to start a gui program (opencl) remotely but I want to display the gui locally without success. I can see the xclock locally for example.12:24
whothehellamiI connect to the server with ssh -X. sshd_config on the server has X11Forwarding yes12:25
whothehellamiany suggestions how I can display the programs graphical output locally?12:26
peyamdidnt work cfhowlett12:27
peyamI need a dictionary server with a dic protocoll12:27
cfhowlettsorry, can't help more, peyam12:27
peyamkiram tosh pas12:27
RD-SAO_FANI uninstall ubuntu on my uefi laptop and I can't boot into windows12:28
hateballwhothehellami: maybe opencl has a startup script that exports display to the local host instead of xforwarding12:28
cfhowlettRD-SAO_FAN, use windows tools to fix windows12:28
RD-SAO_FANWindows 8 btw12:28
whothehellamihateball, do you know how I can check this?12:30
geirhaRD-SAO_FAN: By uninstall you mean you removed the partitions containing Ubuntu, along with the partition containing the configuration of the boot loader?12:30
peyamcfhowlett, just to needed to refresh the current list and SWEDISH-English just appeared12:30
peyam:d12:30
cfhowlettpeyam, on your xfce dictionary?12:31
RD-SAO_FAN 12:32
RD-SAO_FANgeirha: yea12:32
wisnuhello thank ...12:34
RD-SAO_FANgeirha: cfhowlett what do I do?12:40
RD-SAO_FANI have the efi partition but the ubuntu partition have been deleted12:40
cfhowlettRD-SAO_FAN, already told you, to fix a WINDOWS problem use windows tools.  ask ##windows or use the windows support forums.  you *might* be able to fix this by booting your windows cd12:41
RD-SAO_FANK thanks12:42
EriC^^RD-SAO_FAN: what's the problem?12:42
EriC^^RD-SAO_FAN: can you repeat your issue?12:42
_cpo_hi12:42
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_cpo_are there any significant differences to install ubuntu 16.10 to a macbook air ? or is the same: boot from a usb device and go? thanks.:-)12:44
RainbowDash-SAOFI uninstall ubuntu now I can't boot win 8 need to fix the uefi thing to boot it, taking cfhowlett's advice and seeing if ##windows can help12:44
cfhowlettRainbowDash-SAOF, on windows 7, "fix windows" was a boot option.  not sure what's in play on win812:44
EriC^^RainbowDash-SAOF: do you have a live usb?12:45
EriC^^of ubuntu?12:45
RainbowDash-SAOFYea12:45
cfhowlett_cpo_, should be the same process.12:45
EriC^^RainbowDash-SAOF: boot it, and type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr12:45
EriC^^then type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999912:46
RainbowDash-SAOFK12:46
EriC^^and paste the link it gives you here12:46
_cpo_cfhowlett,  i don't have to install rEFInd or something that?12:46
cfhowlett_cpo_, dual booting?  yeah.12:46
_cpo_cfhowlett,  and pure ubuntu 16.10 ( the entire harddisk)?12:47
cfhowlett!mac | _cpo_,12:47
ubottu_cpo_,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages12:47
_cpo_cfhowlett,  :-)12:47
cfhowlett_cpo_, I decided to skip all that though.  I have ubuntu on my mac air + virtualbox12:47
cfhowlettOSX + vbox + ubuntu12:48
EriC^^_cpo_: i think you'd still need refind, there's a way without it that involves using some tools to "bless" the ubuntu efi files12:48
boxrick1Is there any way of saying a device belongs to a bridge rather than a bridge owns these devices? Similar to what you can do with a bond and bond_master12:48
ca-on-adamHi, I haven't gotten any answers to https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343758, is there anybody here who might know what is wrong with my openssh-server?12:49
_cpo_ubottu: thanks, i'm looking.12:49
ubottu_cpo_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:49
_cpo_cfhowlett: great, thanks. .:-)12:49
RainbowDash-SAOFOk I'm in EriC^^12:51
whothehellamiI want to start a program on a server and I want to display graphical output on my local machine. I connect to the server wiht ssh -X. On the server X11Forwarding is set to yes. I get an error "X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)". I've also tried to set DISPLAY var on the server to localIP:0 but then I get an error "freeglut (program) failed to open display localIP:0"12:51
EriC^^RainbowDash-SAOF: ok run the commands above12:51
EriC^^RainbowDash-SAOF: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr12:52
EriC^^sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999912:52
whothehellamiEriC^^, afaik you help people a lot. Do you know how I could solve this problem?12:53
EriC^^whothehellami: i dont know much about X11 forwarding12:54
EriC^^i'll give it a shot12:54
FireStrikerHi EriC^^12:54
EriC^^hi FireStriker12:54
FireStrikerRainbowDash you have one hell of a good guy helping you, he knows his stuff about uefi help me out12:54
EriC^^whothehellami: i've tried it once before, let me get my other laptop and see if it'll work12:55
RainbowDash-SAOFGot an error12:55
EriC^^RainbowDash-SAOF: paste it12:56
EriC^^http://paste.ubuntu.com12:56
EriC^^FireStriker: thank you :)12:56
whothehellamiEriC^^, ty. I appreciate that. mby I should mention that I can see the output of xclock, xterm12:57
RainbowDash-SAOFEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516709/12:58
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EriC^^RainbowDashy: do you have internet connection in the live usb?12:58
RainbowDashyYep oh hang on I haven't activated it lol12:59
ra21viis there any way to use Intel Gfx and shutoff nvidia. When i prime-select nvidia, i cannot boot into, it freezes13:00
RainbowDashyNo I don't actually EriC^^ no wifi for some reason13:01
EriC^^RainbowDashy: no problem, type sudo efibootmgr -v13:01
RainbowDashyWifi drivers must be bugged13:01
EriC^^and look at the Boot order line13:02
EriC^^then look at the bottom and see which one it is that starts first13:02
RainbowDashyOk13:02
RainbowDashyEriC^^:  http://i.imgur.com/Pv0PHeO.jpg13:03
EriC^^whothehellami: which program is causing the error? google suggests it's related to graphics driver missing files and stuff13:04
EriC^^is it steam?13:04
EriC^^RainbowDashy: thanks13:05
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, windows is first before ubuntu in the boot order, that means the efi file of windows might be switched with ubuntu's13:05
EriC^^did you ever use boot-repair?13:06
RainbowDashyNope13:06
EriC^^what happens exactly when you boot right now?13:06
RainbowDashyGrub pops up with a simple bash prompt13:06
EriC^^ok, uefi mode is selected?13:07
RainbowDashyYep13:07
EriC^^ok13:07
EriC^^type sudo parted -l13:07
EriC^^and look for the line that says "efi partition"13:07
whothehellamiEriC^^, it is an opencl simulation program (https://github.com/openworm/sibernetic). The program is working if I start it directly on the server (it has a display) so this can still be an issue related to the graphics driver?13:08
RainbowDashyYep found it13:08
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, look at the first number in the line and the disk name above13:09
EriC^^if it's sda and the number is 1 then the partition is /dev/sda113:09
RainbowDashySo 2 and /dev/sda13:10
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt13:10
RainbowDashyThe efi partition is no 2 that is current right?13:11
EriC^^RainbowDashy: not sure what you mean13:13
guest-U6KMrdguys the plumber is here can someone come and talk to him,,,some one that knows better whats going on13:13
RainbowDashyNvm13:13
guest-U6KMrdandi may be if you are around13:13
RainbowDashyMounted it EriC^^13:13
EriC^^whothehellami: not finding a lot of material about it13:15
EriC^^you can use vnc as a last resort fwiw13:16
whothehellamiEriC^^, ok. ty for your help13:16
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, type ls -l /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi13:16
RainbowDashyOk13:17
RainbowDashydone13:18
nlernHello all, I've Ubuntu 16.04 desktop in which while running firefox (and possibly other apps), I cannot view certain characters (shown as square box) in titlebar unless minimized.  Can anyone tell what to do?13:18
EriC^^RainbowDashy: what is the size of the file?13:18
thebigjHello, I am using Ubuntu 16.04. I have both VGA and HDMI ports in my laptop. I am trying to configure two separate monitors on them , but I am unable to do that. This is my output of http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516754/ and this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516757/ defins my hardware configuration from `lshw` command.13:18
RainbowDashy?13:19
thebigjCan anyone help how it is possible?13:19
EriC^^whothehellami: this seems unlikely since xclock is working but try /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client modifying ForwardX11 to yes13:19
nlernSorry, the characters are shown corretly only after maximizing window.13:19
_cpo_cfhowlett,  ok for a dell user, i make a usbdisk with 16.10, 2. put this in the mac and boot it, 3. erase the mac harddisk and install the os with my fancy partition ideas, 4. ubuntu is booting and i'm happy. is that right? :-)13:19
cfhowlettthebigj, xrandr is the app you need. sorry, can't tell you more than that13:19
thebigjAt present VGA is blinking (Black screen. It is not displaying anything) I am able to use HDMI screen. It is displaying and my Laptop screen is also working13:19
EriC^^RainbowDashy: after "root root" what's the number it shows?13:20
RainbowDashyIt didn't tell me a file size EriC^^. This all I got http://i.imgur.com/2gbgjcx.jpg13:20
RainbowDashyOh after root root13:20
cfhowlett_cpo_, again, I have not installed ubuntu to my mac air, only to my virtualbox in OSX.  follow points on the MAC ubuntu wiki and you should be gold13:20
thebigjWhen I move my cursor between multiple screen I found despite the VGA screen is blank the cursor is goin in that screen.13:20
timssHi. Ubuntu 16.04, Quadro 600, nvidia binary drivers. Did an upgrade (361->367) and X11 broke. Tried with/without xorg.conf, always getting "no screen found". Can't find old .deb in cache directory, what can I do? Find old .deb somewhere and downgrade? Seems messy considering DKMS and dependencies..13:20
_cpo_cfhowlett, ok, understand. thx.13:21
cfhowletthappy2help!13:21
thebigjcfhowlett: I tried to output `xrandr --output VGA --auto --left-of LVSD`13:21
EriC^^RainbowDashy: are there any other files? try the same command but modify it like so13:21
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ls -l /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/*bootmgfw.efi*13:22
thebigjcfhowlett: it tells `xrandr: Configure crtc 2 failed13:22
EriC^^RainbowDashy: look for anything like bkp.bootmgfw.efi or bootmgfw.efi.backup13:22
cfhowlettthebigj, I know only that xrandr is needed.  haven't set up a dual monitor myself.  ask in channel at 15 minute intervals.13:22
thebigjcfhowlett: I tried to find anything related on that error message but ended with no results.13:22
RainbowDashyNope same file13:23
thebigjcfhowlett: I can understand. Many thanks for that advice. Hope admin will not kick me on reason of making noise in channel ;P13:23
EriC^^RainbowDashy: and ls -l /mnt/efi/ubuntu ?13:23
RainbowDashyI will check13:24
EriC^^RainbowDashy: look at the grubx64.efi and shimx64.efi13:24
nlernRestating prob.: in my ubuntu 16.04, in firefox (and maybe other apps) while browsing, in window titlebar, some characters are shown unreadable (with squares) but display correctly after maximizing window13:24
RainbowDashyEriC^^:  http://i.imgur.com/5DectpZ.jpg13:27
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ls -l /mnt/efi/ubuntu13:29
_cpo_has anyone a pure ubuntu 16.10 macbook air installation?13:30
RainbowDashyhttp://i.imgur.com/1Xc7VjC.jpg EriC^^13:30
RainbowDashyI now have an internet connection now yay13:31
EriC^^RainbowDashy: awesome13:32
RainbowDashyIt's totally super awesome13:32
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999913:32
slacko_15773hi13:33
slacko_15773any libe ?13:33
EriC^^RainbowDashy: the efi files look fine, the microsoft one seems pretty large(usually it's 1150000) it's 16.... but i guess it's the actual microsoft one13:33
EriC^^RainbowDashy: the ubuntu ones are there 1100.. and 128....13:33
EriC^^RainbowDashy: now the mystery is how grub is coming when you boot the pc13:33
chandru_inI have set UMASK 077 in /etc/login.defs and there is no override in ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc. The umask command still prints 0022 in gnome terminal, but prints 0007 when I log into tty1.13:34
RainbowDashyThat uefi partition I think13:34
RainbowDashyIt's like a grub recovery or something13:34
EriC^^RainbowDashy: it's grub rescue> ?13:34
RainbowDashyI think so13:34
slacko_15773xxxzzxzxz13:35
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EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999913:36
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khuseynтут люди что делоют13:38
EriC^^!ru | khuseyn13:38
ubottukhuseyn: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:38
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timssHi. Ubuntu 16.04, Quadro 600, nvidia binary drivers. Did an upgrade which included nvidia 361->367 and X11 broke. Tried with/without xorg.conf, always getting "no screen found". Tried `dpkg -i ...` the .deb for nvidia 361, but it didn't work. Might be other packages in play too, but they've been autoremoved (why?!) from /var/cache/apt. Help?13:40
khuseyn.13:41
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RainbowDashyUm EriC^^ what does the command do?13:42
RainbowDashyI think it's stuck13:42
EriC^^RainbowDashy: press ctrl+c13:42
EriC^^RainbowDashy: it should pastebin the output of sudo parted -l and give a link13:42
RainbowDashyOk13:42
EriC^^RainbowDashy: try sudo parted -l does it ask anything like ignore/cancel?13:43
RainbowDashyHTTP://termbin.com/0yds13:43
EriC^^RainbowDashy: bingo13:47
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok there's a bios_grub partition13:47
EriC^^so it might be using that to get grub, are you absolutely sure csm legacy is disabled in the bios and uefi enabled?13:47
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nlernHello, I have a Ubuntu 16.04 desktop in which while running firefox, for normal window, some characters in titlebar are displayed by boxes.  See for normal https://imgur.com/JsVs8uC and for maximized https://imgur.com/KVnzyGV.  what should i do to display text correctly13:52
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Guest33084hello!13:53
RainbowDashyYep EriC^^ I will reboot to make sure13:58
Ljodhi. i'm trying to kill a process called beremote, but when i do sudo killall -v beremote, killall says the process terminated, but when i do ps -A, it's still there with the same pid!13:59
RainbowDashyhttp://i.imgur.com/3SCg1i2.jpg EriC^^14:00
RainbowDashyJust rebooted check to see if legicy was on and it was off14:00
SRvSaha_Hello all14:01
ikevinLjod, try killall -s 15 -v beremote14:01
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, for the record ubuntu is still installed it seems14:01
SRvSaha_Is there any command line pastebin utility like fpaste in fedora ?14:01
PiciSRvSaha_: pastebinit14:01
RainbowDashy? I deleted it that's an legicy install14:02
EriC^^RainbowDashy: the ext4 partition is still there14:02
RainbowDashyLegicy xubuntu14:02
RainbowDashyUbuntu uefi is deleted14:02
EriC^^RainbowDashy: ok, ultimately you want to get rid of ubuntu and keep only windows?14:02
ikevinSRvSaha_, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/pastebinit.1.html14:02
SRvSaha_EriC^^,  Thanks al lot14:03
EriC^^RainbowDashy: everything is still there right now, ext4 is there, and ubuntu efi files and bios_boot for grub14:03
EriC^^SRvSaha_: for what?14:03
SRvSaha_For this info.14:03
SRvSaha_It'll help me a lot :)14:03
RainbowDashyI installed that it's useing legit bios which is off14:03
EriC^^SRvSaha_: i didn't msg you, i think you mean ikevin or Pici ? :)14:04
SRvSaha_Oh sorry. My bad -_-14:04
SRvSaha_Thanks Pici14:04
Picinp14:05
SRvSaha_Thanks ikevin for the man page :)14:05
zrtsubuntu is now coming with systemd by default?14:05
SRvSaha_Pici, Can you kindly tell me how to upload the file after writing it from stdin14:05
BluesKajSRvSaha_, you're not bad, just mistaken14:05
SRvSaha_BluesKaj, :)14:06
PiciSRvSaha_: it should do it automatically.  Just pipe something into pastebinit and it will give you a URL.14:06
SRvSaha_What if I am trying in it ? Pici14:06
Ljodikevin: -15 didnt work, but -9 did :)14:06
ikevin:)14:06
PiciSRvSaha_: press ctrl-d14:06
Ljodi dont get, shouldnt killall send -9 by default ?14:07
Ljodget it*14:07
ZenLjod: for the record, -9 means the kernel will forget about it, its the harshest way to end a process as any file writing that it may be doing will stop and will just corrupt stuff14:07
ikevinLjod, according to manpage, killall send by default SIGTERM14:08
ZenYou only use -9 if you absolutely must, else let the program reach its exit state on its own14:08
SRvSaha_Pici, Ctrl+D doesn't work -_-14:09
LjodZen: maybe it was ignoring the signal?14:09
SRvSaha_Pici, Even the pipe is not working14:09
Ljodwell, whatever.. it wasn't doing anything at the time.14:09
ZenLjod: possible, you can override signal handling in your code14:09
ZenFor the most part -9 won't hurt for small things, but sending by default is dangerous14:10
ikevinkill -9 1 can be dangerous :x14:11
Ljod:D14:11
slacko_15773xc14:11
user150987huh, not again... ubuntu randomly refuse to boot, but works on second try14:12
SRvSaha_Pici, I figured out the pipe. Now, pipe is working . But not the manual entry in pastebinit14:16
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SRvSaha_Pici, Well, now the manual entry is also working. Thanks.!14:17
tom_hi14:18
wabbitstom_ Is there something we can help you with, or are you just looking for love in all the wrong places? :)14:21
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tom_hello14:21
wabbitsbeep beep noise14:21
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slacko_15773czxxcz14:23
slacko_15773:D14:23
MaxWellwhat14:23
MaxWellwho14:26
beni_any girl want to talk with me? XD14:26
ilhamilol14:28
ilhamiyou think this is a dating channel?14:29
user150987http://paste.ubuntu.com/23517021/ found syslog of my failed boot. what next?14:30
gedinskasGuys, who is working witt LXD?14:33
DammitJimis it better to install 16.04 LTS from scratch14:57
DammitJimand migrate applications to the new server14:57
DammitJimor just upgrade from 14.04 ?14:58
Dr-007good day. i'd like to reset my root password since i lost it. i found online that i should hold the shift key to enter the boot menu from grub and the append a little text to something. i never reach this boot menu. any idea's to fix? or just pop in a USB and re-install?14:58
user150987smash left shift rapidly14:59
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user150987it may or may not work, reboot and retry if it doesnt15:00
user150987it has be right after bios and before system start, so start smashing when bios logo up15:01
user150987*to15:01
terminalboy123hey15:03
terminalboy123I have a problem with ubuntu startups15:03
terminalboy123I don't know if its something i did but on every startup before i type in the hard disk encryption password the monitors go to sleep15:04
terminalboy123it takes a good 40 seconds for them to get back up for the password screen15:04
hateballterminalboy123: nvidia gpu?15:04
terminalboy123amd15:04
terminalboy123I format my PC, it went back to normal, then this morning again it does it15:04
hateballterminalboy123: after you've done upgrades? could be a kernel regression15:05
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Dr-007user150987, thanks. i got in by remembering the password15:08
user150987kek15:08
Dr-007now, i heard its possible to make an installable ubuntu image. is this installable image only usuable by that specific PC/CPU? or will it be installable on any PC?15:09
user150987good luck trying that, even the official ubuntu disk doesnt always work15:10
terminalboy123hateball, well15:11
terminalboy123all i can say is15:11
terminalboy123that the last time this happened it was after uninstalling KDE15:11
terminalboy123and now15:11
terminalboy123it started happening after i installed VLC15:11
terminalboy123which could be unrelated15:11
codex_:D15:12
codex_hi guys just showing IRC for my students15:12
terminalboy123university is a scam15:13
jiohdisomething in apt is broken... If I do apt update/upgrade nothing shows up, but if I do synaptic reload, mark updates, there is a bunch15:14
jiohdiso how do I fix it15:14
BluesKajcodex_, heh, your students probly think IRC is archaic15:14
terminalboy123its probably a universal computer class in a uni15:16
terminalboy123where they teach excel15:16
user150987so 19s. git a facebook15:16
BluesKajterminalboy123, he left before our comments got posted15:18
terminalboy123i redpilled those kids15:18
dnhi,where can I find the beautiful themes for ubuntu 14.04 ?15:21
terminalboy123google15:21
terminalboy123What DE?15:22
Dr-007Err http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/main i386 Packages15:22
aaaaaaaaaaaguys, I killed a process using Fuser, how can I restart that process?15:22
Dr-007where can i get a list for packages.list for my country?15:22
Dr-007(for apt-get)15:22
jiohdiDr-007, btw, you can use apt without the get in the newer ubuntu distros15:23
glitchdanyone aware of a way i can launch a program the at the same time the login screen comes up?15:23
jiohdiglitchd, you would have to be able to launch a bunch of programs for that to happen\15:24
glitchdjiohdi, my fingers are so used to hitting the dash after i type apt that when just tried that i hit the dash anyways lol15:24
LinuxNovicehello, has anybody here heard about or used LXLE?15:24
glitchdwhat do you mean15:24
dnglitchd : you can put you program in rc.local or ~/.profile15:25
glitchdLinuxNovice, no, not a single person..15:25
jiohdiglitchd, at login barely anything is up and running yet.15:25
LinuxNoviceWhy?15:25
glitchdLinuxNovice, //sarcasm15:25
Dr-007jiohdi, i'm on avery old one im trying to get to the latest. its a little chinese pc preinstalled with a custom build ubuntu i just figured out. so thats probably why its complaining about missing packages. is there a way to find out if there's a default ubuntu available for my machine?15:25
LinuxNoviceI am asking seriously.15:26
glitchddn, jiohdi its a remote keyboard and mouse application that i can launch and connect to the server with in a single command15:26
glitchdDr-007, if your machine runs ubuntu already, you should be able to just install another one right over the current one, theoretically amyways..15:27
glitchdLinuxNovice, sry i was just joking with you15:27
heurka113What exactly does the disk encryption do on start up?15:27
LinuxNoviceok. But, do you know of this distro LXLE?15:28
glitchdjiohdi, dn anyways the command i would need to run and have kept running is "synergyc 192.168.0.12"15:28
glitchdLinuxNovice, lxde is just the desktop manager, i believe15:29
tgm4883LinuxNovice: this is the ubuntu support channel if you have a support related question, ask it. Otherwise, you're looking for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic15:29
BluesKajLXDE is a desktop environment , not a distro15:29
zetheroohow secure is the keyring in Ubuntu? Is it encrypted when the user is not logged in?15:29
glitchdLinuxNovice, also im pretty sure there is a room for lxde support..15:29
LinuxNoviceI am not asking for LXDE. I asked about LXLE.15:29
jiohdiisnt lxle a distro based on ubuntu?15:29
LinuxNoviceLXLE is also based on Ubuntu.15:30
jiohdiI think I used it many moons ago, but don't remember why I did not continue with it15:30
glitchdLinuxNovice, its the same thing basically15:30
dnLinuxNovice  what does it mean ? lxle?15:30
glitchdLinuxNovice, its still a ubuntu derivative15:30
glitchdLinuxNovice, just like lxde15:30
jiohdidifferent distros have their own repositories and sometimes that causes restrictions15:30
jiohdilxle is based on lubuntu which is a stripped down version of ubuntu for older machines15:32
LinuxNovicehttp://www.lxle.net/15:32
tgm4883none of this is support...15:32
LinuxNoviceI was just curious, just wanted to know if anyone here uses this.15:33
ren0v0Hi, is it possible to connect to the internet over wifi, but LAN over ethernet via network manager?15:33
jiohdide-bloated as it were15:33
glitchdLinuxNovice, how bout you just ask your question and stop trying to explain what lxle is as we know what it is already15:33
tgm4883LinuxNovice: then ask in #ubuntu-discuss15:33
glitchdren0v0, both at the same time?15:33
ren0v0glitchd: yea15:33
BluesKajLinuxNovice, it can't be much different than ubuntu with lxde desktop15:33
glitchdyes it is15:34
LinuxNoviceI have a very old laptop. I thought of asking for a suitable distro for it.15:34
glitchdren0v0, yes it is15:34
wtn4726LinuxNovice: how old is old?15:34
jiohdiLinuxNovice, if its really old, then puppy linux15:34
LinuxNoviceIt was bought in 2005.15:34
ren0v0glitchd: any pointers? i've googled for a while and the solution i found doesn't work, it kicks me off one or the other15:34
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LinuxNoviceIntel Celeron M, 1.5 Ghz, 2 gb ram and 40 gb hdd.15:35
glitchdren0v0, your using network manager?15:35
vfwLinuxNovice: Anyone will be fine, just use a light DE, like xfce or lxd15:35
jiohdiBluesKaj, it is, its very stripped down15:35
ren0v0glitchd: yea15:35
vfw*lxde*15:35
wtn4726LinuxNovice: i have a comparable notebook running at my parent's place with debian 8 and mate desktop15:36
vfwLinuxNovice: If you install standard ubuntu, you can install xubuntu-desktop  (xfce is what I use)15:36
LinuxNoviceok15:36
BluesKajactualy LinuxNovice, regular ubuntu with lxde should run fine on those specs/HW15:36
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vfwLinuxNovice: What is the processor speed?  How much RAM is in it?15:36
BluesKajvfw, look above15:37
LinuxNovice1.5 GHz Intel Celeron M, Single core. and 2 gb ram.15:37
jiohdiLinuxNovice, if you want it to fly, puppy is the way to go, but its repositories are very restricted15:37
wtn4726LinuxNovice: the default ubuntu desktop (unity) will probably run very slow or not run at all, so xfce or lxde will suit better15:37
glitchdren0v0, the connect both interfaces to the network then on the network connections gui double click on the main connection and look at the bottom of the windows that pops up and find a button that says routes15:38
LinuxNovicethat is the reason I am asking for opinions here.15:38
glitchdren0v0, add the other connections information there.15:38
mamaloshey everybody!15:38
glitchdyo15:38
mamalosI'm trying to setup vlans on Ubuntu 16.04.115:38
LinuxNoviceNeed a distro which is well supported has large repositories, is stable and secure.15:38
ren0v0glitchd: let me add some more info. I want to connect to the LAN via ethernet, and the internet via WiFi. The wifi is not on the same network as the LAN, its a mobile access point15:38
mamalosand I'm having some troubles when trying to permanent add them via /etc/network/interfaces15:39
ioriaLinuxNovice, your problem it's not the distro but the cpu15:39
mamalosI've read a few guides, but something in my setup seems to fail15:39
ren0v0glitchd: my ISP is down, so i am tethering through mobile for internet, but i still need files on my NAS etc.15:39
glitchdren0v0, my advice still stands15:39
mamalosI'll pastebin my config15:39
glitchdren0v0, i literally just read about that, give me a minute to try and find you a link15:40
dn LinuxNovice  This machine is quite old15:40
ioriaLinuxNovice, it's not only old, but is an 'M'15:40
wtn4726ioria: running debian 8 with mate on a thinkpad r51 (which also has a single core pentium m) is not too slow. i guess the pata hdd (also 40gb) is slowing down more than the cpu15:40
mamalosthere we go: http://pastebin.com/JaAk3st915:41
wtn4726ioria: so running ubuntu with xfce or lxde should be possible15:41
ioriawtn4726, issues on installing on M https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE15:41
ioriawtn4726, non pae kernel15:41
mamaloswhen I'm using the appropriate commands (eg vconfig add etc.) it works fine15:41
wtn4726ioria: that's why i installed debian 8, which still has the option for non-pae kernel15:42
mamalosbut I'm not sure how it can be properly integrated in /etc/network/interfaces15:42
mamalosthanks all in advance!15:42
ioriawtn4726, but it want lubuntu15:42
ioria*s15:42
ilhamiHey!15:42
ilhamiWhat is the Ubuntu social channel called?15:42
ioriawtn4726,  he wants lubuntu15:42
BluesKajilhami, #ubuntu-offtopic15:43
ilhamioh man I am also banned there. :/15:43
wtn4726ioria: does lubuntu come with non-pae kernel by default?15:43
ioriawtn4726,  until 12.0415:43
wtn4726ioria: oh well...15:43
ioriawtn4726,  then you have to fake-flag and do-release-upgrade to 14 and 1615:44
wtn4726ioria: as long as it retains the non-pae kernel15:44
ioriawtn4726,  for now, it does15:44
mamalosah, and my interface is eth0 (changed grub to use eth0, blahblah naming scheme)15:44
wtn4726ioria: okay15:45
ilhamiis IRC getting new features? :P15:45
ilhamiooops wrong channel.15:45
ren0v0glitchd: any joy ?15:45
ioriawtn4726,  you need anyways the  linux-image-generic-pae pkg15:45
mamalosany suggestions?15:45
Dr-007glitchd> i want it reinstalled, i dont trust this chinese install. i'm writing the latest ubuntu server to a usb to test if it can be installed like that and there's actually no need for a custom build ubuntu.15:46
mamalos(apart from running everyghing from /etc/rc.local which is a bit messy:) ?)15:46
wtn4726LinuxNovice: so you need to some extra work to run ubuntu on that thing, because the standard 32 bit kernel in ubuntu expects the pae feature in the cpu, which it doesn't have15:46
glitchdDr-007, ..ok15:47
donofrioHow do I get AirWatch enrollment of a ubuntu host? (the MDMAgent and the linke *not server* but CLIENT)15:49
glitchdren0v0, i cannot find the link..15:50
mamalosIf this is not the right place for this question, should I address my question to a different channel that I don't know of?15:51
Joel14.04, in /etc/cron.daily I have an "apt" cron, any ideas what it would be for? reading it over, but there's no specific "This does XYZ type comment in it"15:54
glitchdren0v0, wow i actually found the link afterall http://askubuntu.com/questions/10741/how-to-set-up-dual-wired-and-wireless-connections15:56
donofriodoes anyone here use Airwatch@corp place with ubuntu?15:59
aborakanhi all16:03
mamaloshey, found the solution to my problem, so here's for anybody interested: I had forgotten the interface name after each instance of vlan-raw-device (which was eth0 in my case)16:05
mamalosthanks for your time anyways16:05
amber_wowo16:06
Thinkeycan anyone here help me with my printer?  It was working yesterday and today it isnt :/16:06
Thinkeyand when i try to reinstall it, i get a server-error-internal-error  when i locate the IP of the printer and try to use it16:06
amber_first time enter this chat16:06
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Dr-007thinkey is that still your printers IP? is it on? perhabs it changed and the list you're looking at shows an old IP16:08
ThinkeyI am able to ping the IP yes.16:08
donofrioHow do I get AirWatch enrollment of a ubuntu host? (the MDMAgent and the linke *not server* but CLIENT) ??16:08
Thinkeyi can ping the IP through terminal fine16:08
Thinkeyjust pinged it from the router as well16:09
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ren0v0Hi, i'm trying to use ethernet for local network and wifi for internet same time. I've setup a connection on eth0 called "intranet, and i've setup in "routes", to "use connections for this only". However, it still only lets me use one at a time, it keeps switching off my internet, or lan ocnnections16:24
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ren0v0pulling my hair out...16:27
th0rren0v0, are you planning that all computers on your intranet get internet through that computer?16:27
ren0v0th0r: no16:28
ren0v0th0r: simply my ISP is down, so i'm using mobile connection for internet, but still need LAN access for NAS16:29
ren0v0http://pastebin.com/YCqbj5Xc16:29
ren0v0this is how its setup currently16:29
vfwls16:29
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th0rren0v0, this is how my routes are set up http://paste.debian.net/897699/16:31
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th0rI am using that computer as a gateway for all on my intranet so I also had to set up iptables. you may need that too...not sure for your setup16:33
ren0v0th0r: from the little i understand it doesn't look too much different? But they aren't playing nice together, if i play a song for example (over nas), the internet dies16:33
vfwLinuxNovice: Ubuntu is all of that.16:33
ren0v0th0r: i'm literally just trying to use this one machine16:33
glitchdi messed up network manager somehow..lol16:33
glitchdim connected, but i cannot browse16:33
ren0v0NM sucks, if i click "edit" on a connection now i freezes for 30-60seconds16:34
glitchdis there any way to reset network manager to default?16:34
th0rren0v0, right. except for that fact your setup is just like mine. I stream audio/video from an nas...but keep all that internal.16:34
workisfunhi guys, Chromium has been blocking random websites (i.e. amazon , outlook office365) but these work fine on Firefox http://askubuntu.com/questions/852359/ubuntu-16-04-chrome-browser-blocks-many-assets-from-loading16:35
eelstrebordoes this lshw output matter if the device is working or am i missing out on some capabilities?   *-processor UNCLAIMED16:35
ren0v0th0r: then i don't know what's going on, but it won't do both things at once16:35
ren0v0workisfun: yes its a known issue16:36
eelstrebor(it's a scsi device - flat bed scanner)16:36
ren0v0th0r: would it be any better if i were more specific with my routes? for example unticket "allow only connections to this network" and specify my NAS IP or something ?16:37
th0rren0v0, if it was me, I would set the thing up as a gateway for the whole network, then work at blocking all other nodes from outgoing to the www16:39
glitchdi fixed it lol16:40
roryguest: no16:40
ren0v0th0r: what "thing"?16:40
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jay_Skankhunt42 here16:40
ren0v0nas   <  this machine   >   internet                         -  i don't have anything else i want to connect to or through it16:41
workisfunren0v0: nooooooooooooooooo, so there's nothing i can do about it then?16:41
th0rren0v0, your computer. except for the fact that you don't want other intranet coming through it to the internet you are setting up a classic gateway16:42
ren0v0workisfun: don't think so16:42
ikevinren0v0, route add -host <ip of the nas> dev eth016:42
Zemifellerhi askhat16:43
Zemifeller:)16:43
askhatHi guys! Could anyone suggest me any particular solution to host email server with ability to handle multiple domains?16:43
askhatZemifeller hello16:43
ikevinaskhat, exim/dovecot16:43
Zemifeller:)16:43
pelicanohow can i download from rapidgator using jdownloader??16:43
Zemifellernew to ubuntu16:43
ren0v0ikevin: things kind of work via browser, i can connect to it directly and talk here, the issue actually seems to be when i mount a share on the NAS fia nfs16:44
askhatZemifeller thank you, I'll look at it16:44
ilhamihow would I install deepin DE on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS? :)16:46
ilhamido I have to install from source?16:46
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BluesKajyou could use wget or curl or youtube-dl any other number of downloaders on linux , pelicano16:48
kuSuSEthis is a little off topic but when I send an email to alice and bcc bob, alice can see that I bcc'ed bob?16:52
roryyes ilhami you have to install from source there aren't any ubuntu packages16:53
roryilhami: or rather 16.04 packages16:53
ilhamiHmm. How long would it take to install from source for a newbie? :)16:56
ioriailhami,  give a look at this maybe  (don't ask me if it works :-)   )  https://launchpad.net/~leaeasy/+archive/ubuntu/dde17:03
ilhamiI will take the risk. :P this laptop is old anyway.17:04
ilhamiThanks.17:04
ioriailhami,  no prob... but i think it has hight specs17:04
Secret-Fireplasma keeps crashing in kubuntu17:06
dbtidhowdy; i have ubuntu 14.04 LTS.17:07
Secret-Firetaskbar crashes and reloads17:07
dbtidi have a many versions of kernels+initrd in /boot17:07
dbtiduname -r says i'm using 3.13.0-71, but it's not using the latest -10017:07
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dbtidhow do i tell the system to start using the latest?17:07
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dbtidand is there a proper way to remove the older ones other than "rm"17:08
tgm4883dbtid: don't use rm, you would need to remove the packages17:10
tgm4883dbtid: and you should start using the latest one if you reboot17:10
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dbtidwell, the latest one was installed on Oct 18, and the system has been rebooted many times since then.17:11
dbtidso for some reason, it's not updating (grub, i guess) to load the newest one17:11
ra21vineed help switch to Intel from Nvidia, as its probably causing more issues using Nvidia..17:11
pelicanohow can i download from rapidgator using jdownloader??17:12
ra21viSince I am not planning to use graphics intesive things on dell 7559, and want to get suspend working flawlessly,17:12
dbtidi'm going to reboot and see if i can force the latest.17:13
ra21viwhen I switch to intel using tool prime-select on Ubuntu 16.10, i cannot get it boot. It stucks and freeze.. any idea17:13
ra21vianyone using dell with nvidia 960M.. but switched to INtel and got it working17:14
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McMicMacHi!17:16
dbtidso i manually updated the boot instructions during the last boot17:16
dbtidso i'm using -101 now17:16
dbtidi have another ubuntu 14.04 machine and its kernel is much more recent17:16
dbtidit's 4.417:17
dbtidi'm not sure why this one is still at 3.1317:17
dbtidthat doesn't make any sense either17:17
McMicMacQuick question: I have a partition mounted a /home/a_folder. How would my fstab have to look like so that it has _exactly_ the same rights as /home?17:17
McMicMacBecause I currently can't execute anything on the partition.17:17
ilhamiioria, I installed it but I can't get past login screen when choosing deepin as DE.17:18
ra21viMcMicMac, which FS17:18
ioriailhami,  ls -al ~/.Xauthority17:18
McMicMacra21vi: FS? Filesystem? NTFS17:19
ra21viMcMicMac, so are you getting permission denied?17:20
ilhamiioria, it lists one file17:20
ioriailhami,  owned by you or root ?17:20
ilhamiby me17:20
ilhamiilhami ilhami17:20
McMicMacra21vi yes. I'm trying to execute a file using chmod +x [file] and then ./file, but I get "permission denied".17:20
tgm4883dbtid: sounds like one was installed 14.04 and the other was a point release of 14.0417:21
McMicMaceven with sudo and everything.17:21
ioriailhami,  cat ~/.xsession-errors  |nc termbin.com 999917:21
ra21viMcMicMac, ok. can you follow this - http://askubuntu.com/a/24528317:21
McMicMacAnd is it then identical to /home?17:21
ra21viMcMicMac, what do you mean by identical to home?17:22
ilhamiopenConnection: connect: No such file or directory17:23
ilhamicannot connect to brltty at :017:23
McMicMacra21vi I would like it so that I don't notice that this folder is actually on an other partition than /home, ever.17:24
ra21viMcMicMac, NTFS cannot act like those which supports linux, like ext3, ext4, reiserfs etc.. So the way around is label it with some emulated permission.. you still cannot set custom permission to NTFS artifacts, AFAIK17:24
ioriailhami,  look at you home folder with ls -l  and see if there are some files owned by 'root'17:24
McMicMacra21vi but to the partition as a whole?17:24
ilhamiioria, all ilhami ilhami17:25
ra21viMcMicMac, yes17:25
ioriailhami,  what's your video card ?17:26
McMicMacra21vi ok, alright, thank you.17:27
ilhamiGeForce GT 520M17:27
ilhamiI think this laptop has a dedicated and an integrated Intel card.17:27
ioriailhami,  and what are you using right now ?17:29
ilhamiioria, how do I check that? I think I am using the dedicated one. The GeForce one.17:30
ra21vican anyone help me get my Intel Graphics work on Dell 7559.. currenly running nvidia17:30
ioriailhami,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 317:30
ilhamiioria, after reboot now I see the deepin login screen.17:31
ilhamican't get past it though17:31
ilhamihmm now I logged in but see a totally black screen.17:32
brotherBoxhi guys. im using the GUI installer on an UEFI system and i want to use my ESP partition as /boot, but the interface wont let me. it seems to be common practice though. is there a way to use ESP as /boot?17:32
ioriailhami,  open a console and restart lightdm (alt+ctrl+Fx  and sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service)17:32
ldshHi, I would like to use my ubuntu gnome with my new NVIDIA 1050 Ti, but I have only a black-grey screen at the moment of login (and nothing in live CD after I chose to try without installing). It works fine under Windows (so the card is not dead). I see that some people (phoronix) have this card working on linux.17:33
ioriailhami,  i suggest you ,also for a feedback, to contact the mainteiner of the ppa17:33
ilhamiI can't login. I see the deepin login screen now.17:33
ilhami2nd time I try to login I hear a sound. But then I just see a black screen hehe17:34
ioriailhami,  add a new brand user17:34
ilhamithen it says Disconnected. Network cable is unplugged17:34
ilhamiI see the dock now in the bottom.17:34
ioriailhami,  this is painful17:34
ilhamiok it seems to work now.17:34
ioriailhami,  how much ram ?17:35
ilhami4GB17:35
ioriailhami,  it should work ... cpu ?17:35
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glitchdi had a folder mounted on my desktop from my server and was able to access it, same thing on my server, it can access it. i messed up network manager and had to reinstall it. now i can access the ssh folder of my server but my server can still access mine. what did i mess up and how can i fix it?17:38
TumulteHi ! is there a way to remember a IRC channel password in thunderbird17:39
Tumulte?17:39
ilhamiioria, i5-2410M17:40
brotherBoxTumulte: get a proper client like hexchat17:40
ioriailhami,  ok, if you  have problems, open a console and try to add a new user (adduser mikey - usermod -a -G sudo mikey)17:41
ilhamiioria, it works. I just need to find a way to add danish keyboard layout lol17:41
Tumultesame question minus trolls17:41
ioriailhami,  oh, i see.... if you do it from unity, it should be available also from that thing, i guess17:42
ilhamiwell I found a way. :) deepin is pretty awesome.17:42
ioriailhami,  good job17:42
ilhamiioria, thanks man. I like to test new stuff.17:43
ioriailhami,  you're welcome17:43
ilhamiioria, are you ikonia's brother btw?17:44
ilhamilol17:44
ioriailhami,  no mate. :þ17:44
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iribindians please do not record any  tutorial  by the English language17:47
usildoes anyone know wft. is this process http://pastebin.com/8Rp2Kb6u17:47
glitchdanyone familiar with ssh in here?17:47
tsgloveglitchd, many people.17:47
glitchdi had a folder mounted on my desktop from my server and was able to access it, same thing on my server, it can access it. i messed up network manager and had to reinstall it. now i can access the ssh folder of my server but my server can still access mine. what did i mess up and how can i fix it?17:47
glitchdtsglove, ^^17:47
tsgloveWhat is the problem?17:48
glitchdi keep getting connection refused location not mounted17:48
Piciusil: looks like some docker related thing: https://github.com/rancher/rancher17:48
ilhamiioria, only problem seems to be that I have to write the password twice at the login screen to be able to login. :P I can live with that I guess.17:48
usilPici: yes, but I don't run any container know17:49
ra21viwow guys, i am sitting on a useless system (atleast for now).. anyone can let me know where should I ask my questions or is it bad time?17:49
usilhow can I remove this process17:49
ioriailhami,  contact the maintainer, he may have a fix17:49
ra21viI wouldnt prefer to work on a laptop with suspend issue..17:49
ilhamiioria, I will. :)17:50
Piciusil: do you remember installing this?17:50
ra21viis there any other channel for help? or where I can find GFX experts?17:50
ra21viirib, what did you mean by "Indian please do not record in english"17:51
usilI think I run rancher OS container, but I remov this contaner and images17:52
ra21vivery strange, i sent around 10 questions, but none has been answered.. i hope my messsages are being sent... can anyone acknowledge if you see this message..17:53
Picira21vi: we see you.17:53
ra21viPici, thanks Pici17:53
brotherBoxirc is cruel in that way17:54
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ra21viwhy today its so silent18:00
ra21viubuntu used to be quite noisy18:00
naccra21vi: not really relevant; be patient.18:04
naccra21vi: what is your issue?18:04
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ra21vinacc, resume frm suspend freezes. Switching to intel from Nvidia freezes on boot. After few mins, external usb mouse freezes, have to replug to get it working... i think all maybe due to gfx issue18:16
naccra21vi: ok, 3 distinct issues, maybe all due to the graphics.18:18
naccra21vi: what do you mean 'switching to intel from nvidia freezes on boot'? what did you do to switch, where does it freeze?18:19
vfwAnd I don't know what "gfx issue" means.18:20
vfwGPU?18:20
BluesKajgfx=graphics=gpu, yes18:21
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vfwOk18:22
vfwToo many acronyms18:22
ra21vinacc, i see this error in dmesg - this pci device is not a vga device18:23
am0nrahxIs there a way to virtualize an existing ubuntu install and move it to VirtualBox?18:23
ra21vinacc, now, if I switch to intel using prime-select intel... and reboot, booting freezes in console.18:23
vfwam0nrahx: You have to install via Vbox18:24
naccra21vi: wait, you're using prime/optimus whatever?18:24
* nacc doesn't have any experience with it, sorry18:24
am0nrahxvfw, you know the process? or point me in the right direction?18:24
ioriara21vi, already tried another kernel ?18:25
am0nrahxMy laptop has a working install with GUI18:25
ra21vinacc, ok. can you help me zero down on exact issue.. right now I suspect its due to gfx18:25
naccra21vi: i think the hybrid stuff is probably to blame -- maybe try to not use that stack at all? just using the intel stack, without the switching mode stuff, should just work.18:25
ra21viioria, which one? lower than 4.8.0-27-generic (current) or latest?18:25
am0nrahxah, might have found it vfw18:26
am0nrahxdd to and image and that vbox manage to a vdi18:26
ioriara21vi, if you have another kernel (ls /boot of dpkg -l | grep linux-image*) you can try to boot it from grub -> advanced options18:27
ra21vinacc, issue is, if I resume from suspend, it works sometimes, or it freezes many times. Can that be due to hybrid gfx?18:27
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Onepamopatrying to compile the latest intel igb drivers on ubuntu 16.04.1, however, getting this: http://pastebin.com/aGbrBbsF18:35
Onepamopaany ideas ?18:35
loskutakHi, I cannot ping google.com -> unknown host... other domains work... can the DNS be broken on my side? what could I try to do?18:37
vfwloskutak: host av.com18:40
vfwloskutak: ping 47.88.136.24518:41
loskutak47.88.136.24518:41
vfwloskutak: So you are in fact able to resolve host names.18:41
vfwloskutak: Does it take a long time?18:41
vfwloskutak: Does it take a long time to resolve the host name to an IP address?18:42
loskutakping -> few seconds wait, then standard ping with 300ms latency18:42
vfwloskutak: Could be that your router is giving out a nameserver IP that is no longer in use.18:42
loskutakhost av.com instant... host google.com -> connection timed out no servers could be reached18:42
vfw300ms seems ok.18:42
vfwloskutak: can you ping google.com18:43
vfw?18:43
Jordan_Uloskutak: Try using the dns server 8.8.8.8 .18:43
vfwloskutak: What nameserver are you using now?18:43
loskutakvfw: I cannot18:43
vfwloskutak: Interesting..18:44
loskutakhow to see what ns am I using?18:44
vfwloskutak: Are you using your router's caching nameserver?18:44
tgm4883loskutak: what is the output of 'host google.com 8.8.8.8'18:44
vfwloskutak: cat /etc/resolv.conf18:45
vfwloskutak: Try what tgm4883 suggests....18:45
loskutaktgm4883: connection timed out, no servers could be reached18:45
vfwloskutak: What country are you in?  (What is your location?)18:45
tgm4883loskutak: very interesting. Can you ping 8.8.8.818:45
Stinky_FeetOnepamopa: Are your kernel headers matching your kernel? It is using /lib/modules/4.4.24-dk/build, what is the output of uname -r? I compiled the driver without problems...18:46
OnepamopaStinky_Feet, yes they're matching18:46
peeps[lappy]does ubuntu still default to dash which masquerades as bash?  i can't remember how you even tell which is running. i thought maybe it was a symlink in /bin/bash, but not seeing it18:46
loskutakcannot ping 8.8.8.818:46
Onepamopauname -r -> 4.4.24-dk18:46
vfwloskutak: What country are you in?  (What is your location?)18:46
loskutakCzech Republic, Prague18:46
Jordan_Upeeps[lappy]: Ubuntu has never had dash masquerading as bash. Ubuntu symlinks /bin/sh to dash.18:47
loskutak/etc/resolv.conf -> nameserver 127.0.1.1\nsearch lan18:47
vfwloskutak: Not sure what is going on.  You may need to talk to your Internet Service Provider.18:47
tgm4883loskutak: are you talking to us from the same machine that you are having the issue from?18:47
loskutaktgm4883: yes18:47
Jordan_Upeeps[lappy]: You'll notice pretty quickly if you ever try to use dash interactively that it not bash.18:47
loskutaktgm4883: it is really weird...18:47
Stinky_FeetOnepamopa: OK, all I could think of, I'm on 4.4.0-47-generic, no problems...18:48
Jordan_Us/it/it's/18:48
vfwloskutak: Do you have a firewall/router that may be blocking google.com?18:48
OnepamopaStinky_Feet, so you can compile it w/o problems? huh18:48
OnepamopaI'll try @ generic18:48
tgm4883loskutak: what's the output of 'nmcli d'18:48
loskutakvfw: possibly, don't know... but everything works well usually..18:49
vfwloskutak: You may need to restart your router, cable-modem, or DSL-modem.18:49
Stinky_FeetOnepamopa: Yep: http://pastebin.com/izZVdkxi18:49
OnepamopaI'll try now, booting ...18:49
loskutaktgm4883: wlan0 connected, eth0 unavailable18:50
loskutakok, will try that18:50
vfwloskutak: traceroute 8.8.8.818:50
tgm4883loskutak: what version of ubuntu is this?18:50
OnepamopaStinky_Feet, strange, I was able to compile @ the generic kernel, but not @ custom18:51
vfwloskutak: Have you been experimenting with iptables?18:51
Onepamopawhat the ...18:51
Onepamopathey having identical .config & everything18:51
loskutaktgm4883: 14.04.518:51
loskutakvfw: no18:51
loskutakvfw: no config tweaking when this happened18:51
vfwfully updated?18:51
vfwYou might try updates.18:52
vfwloskutak: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:52
tgm4883loskutak: can you ping termbin.com18:53
loskutakvfw: not really, but only few latest uninteresting upgrades pending. will do that...18:53
mr_louI record a video on my phone at 2 am. Copy it to Ubuntu via Mass Storage => timestamp on the video becomes 3 am. Copy it to Ubuntu via MTP => timestamp = 2 am. Metadata for both copies says it was recorded 1 am.......   O_o     Have had this problem for years with several version of Ubuntu and several phones....   wtf?18:53
Stinky_FeetOnepamopa: Oh well, I have no idea...18:53
loskutaktgm4883: I can18:53
vfwloskutak: Finish updates and reboot.18:54
tgm4883loskutak: what's the output of 'tracepath 8.8.8.8 | nc termbin.com 9999'18:54
vfwtgm4883: You mean traceroute?18:54
tgm4883vfw: nope18:54
vfwOk18:54
tgm4883vfw: although it gives the same output, I think it was renamed at some point18:55
Jordan_Umr_lou: If the metadata for the video says it was recorded at 1 AM then it seems pretty clear that the phone is writing the metadata incorrectly.18:55
ldshHi, I would like to use my ubuntu gnome with my new NVIDIA 1050 Ti, but I have only a black-grey screen at the moment of login (and nothing in live CD after I chose to try without installing). It works fine under Windows (so the card is not dead). I see that some people (phoronix) have this card working on linux.18:55
mr_louJordan_U, Sounds logical, if it was just one phone. But it's been this way with the past 4 phones I've had. Granted, they've all been Sony phones.....18:56
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Jordan_Umr_lou: While it unfortunately makes sense for timestamps on files to be mucked with by a file transfer, especially via USB Mass Storage and a FAT filesystem, the contents of the video file won't change no matter how you're transfering it. Is your phone configured with the same time zone as your computer? Does the phone itself report the time in the metadata of the video correctly?18:59
mr_louJordan_U, Both phone and Ubuntu is set to find the correct timezone themselves. I checked that it's correct; GMT+1 for me. But it sure does look like the phones uses GMT for meta. Yes, copying files from mass storage sometimes gives files a new timestamp: the one for when it was copied. This is not what happens here though. It doesn't get the timestamp of the time of the copy, but rather of the time of recording + 1 hour.19:01
mr_louJordan_U, This has happened ever since I used Sony Ericsson Aino (first time I noticed it), and up through other phones I've used since then.19:01
mr_louJust crazy19:02
mr_louAt the time I assume it was a bug somewhere and that it would soon be fixed - but apparently not.19:02
loskutaktgm4883: http://termbin.com/73l019:02
tgm4883loskutak: as vfw said, it's worth a shot rebooting your devices19:03
kikllhey people19:04
loskutaktgm4883: have been upgrading... going to try that now :)19:05
phakohi, where would I get help regarding a PPA built that is stuck in dependency wait?19:06
phako*build19:06
naccphako: which PPA?19:06
phakohttps://launchpad.net/~yg-jensge/+archive/ubuntu/shotwell-unstable - it waits for libgexiv2-dev 0.10.24 which is also in that PPA19:07
phakoer 0.10.419:07
kikllguys im using trisquel mini 7 and i've add ubuntu repo's of trusty tahr since its base but when i do an update of my source list it ignores these repo's , can someone help please19:08
cr__hola19:12
naccphako: i'm not sure how the ppa resolution works, tbh; it seems like when the build tried before, the pacakges weren't there. YOu might try asking in #launchpad.19:12
kikllhere's what i get when i run apt-get update http://pastebin.com/ZnM8JxiM19:12
cr__i am new this19:12
cr__i test the SO19:13
nacckikll: trisquel is not supported here, afaict.19:13
nacckikll: i would contact their support19:13
studio-user260hi19:14
nacccr__: what is "SO"?19:14
studio-user260it depends19:15
studio-user260but most likel it is a scream to stop the horses19:15
phakonacc: nah, the package was there before. But I'll check in lp19:15
PapoHackwho speak spanish19:22
Tachyon_si19:22
akik!es19:22
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:22
PapoHackthis is channel of support??19:24
akikPapoHack: yes, if you speak english19:24
PapoHackohh my english is bad19:25
PapoHackjaja19:25
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loskutakI am back... rebooted everything, still not pinging 8.8.8.8 But it seems something went wrong on much higher level, apparently it has got tv news coverage as well. Whole country affected? don't know19:26
loskutakat least I can still reach freenode :)19:26
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loskutakhttp://downdetector.com/status/google/map/19:28
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korosohey all19:31
loskutakoutlook down as well...19:32
akikloskutak: try connecting to your local country services first19:33
akikloskutak: and see if dns can find those ip addresses19:34
loskutakakik: yeah it works... only google based things went down19:34
loskutakBut it seems our country is back online :)... Hopefully it will stay that way19:37
loskutakIt is amazing how bad things start to be without accessible google... You cannot really search for what is going on, many people are using google DNS many websites are relying on fonts and other things from google etc...19:39
pitti_hi all. i just installed xubuntu on usb and it wont connect to wifi. i use password but it does nothing any help would be greatly apreciated :) im looking forward to learning linux19:39
loskutakthanks for the help!19:40
Tachyon_hello. because my system partition(I think it's std7 it's running out of space, I through about "borrowing" some space from std3. unfortunatelly, I don't know now what to do because if I try to grow sda7 says it doesn't have any space preceding. http://i.imgur.com/ZdyfpnH.jpg what can I do now ?19:41
vfwloskutak: It's best to use the nameserver recommended by your ISP19:41
Tachyon_sda * -- I am used with std from cpp :D19:42
zero_hola queria saber como instalar mpich2 y algun compilador intel para ubuntu gracias19:42
Tachyon_I thought it's english only here19:43
loskutakvfw: I had issues with that before, so I switched to google DNS... but the issue was that 8.8.8.8 was completely unreachable from our country now, so it was not a nameserver issue...19:45
pitti_am i doing this right?19:46
korosohow can i configure network on wireless because its started on lan :s19:50
korosonobody can help me?19:57
brotherBoxi have the same problem19:57
brotherBoxi usually delete the wired connection then19:57
ioriakoroso, what's your problem ?19:58
LondonAppDevHello. I am using Ubuntu 16.04. Under the bluetooth icon (top right) I have a list of two devices and I want to remove these devices from the list. The problem is, when I go to the bluetooth menu where you can add/remove devices, they don't appear in the list. Is there a terminal command I can use to clear the devices off? Thanks in advance.19:59
AluminThe mouse in my Dell Latitude E6530 laptop running Kubuntu 12.04 (precise) isn't set up for scroll wheel emulation.  Where would I get started on figuring out how to set that up?20:04
Aluminare we talking getting my hands dirty with xorg.conf?20:07
Aluminthat's what it used to be, back in the day, but maybe things are fancier now20:07
pac1ls20:08
ldshEven on a live cd of the daily build of the development version of Ubuntu my 1050 Ti do not seem to work,whereas it is in the list of supported hardware on the nouveau website https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/#nv130familypascal and some people have made benchmark with it on linux at phoronix and I saw tutorials explaining how to install proprietary drivers. I just want to be able to boot in Ubuntu with this card installed.20:08
ldshDoes anybody have an idea of what to do?20:08
korosohey ioria20:09
ioriakoroso, what's up ?20:09
korosowhen my system started it's automatically on ethernet20:10
korosoi'm fine and u?20:10
korosoi want to configure it on wlan20:11
ioriakoroso, i'm ok, tx.... and you want to autostart wifi instead ?20:11
pac1I'm having trouble getting a library in /usr/local/lib to be recognized using ldconfig.  just running ldconfig does not add it to the cache.  I've looked online for information about this and the directions say to just run ldconfig.  I'm assuming that may not be enough.  Anyone have a clue as to what I'm missing?20:11
korosoyes thats right20:11
korosoi'm on lubuntu desktop now ;)*20:12
ioriakoroso, ok, right-click on Network icon and choose 'Edit Connections' then edit again on your wifi connection , go in General  Tab and select autostart20:12
ldshkoroso, TLP allows to configure this kind of thing (and many other): http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html20:12
BluesKajldsh,  by development version do you mean ubuntu 17.04 , if so ask in #ubuntu+120:13
ioriakoroso, 'Atuomatically connect when available .... "20:13
korosook thank u ;) problem solved20:14
ioriakoroso, good guy20:14
ldshBluesKaj, By dev version I mean that I tried to use the most up to date possibility (so yes, 17.04) because I couldn't boot with the last release. So my problem is not specific to the dev version.20:15
ldshI did just hope the dev one could solve the issue.20:15
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ldshBut I would clearly prefer to work on release (16.10)20:16
marco__ciao a tutti20:18
Bashing-omldsh: Try with the recommended driver ? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/111596/en-us . The 375 version is availabale in out trusted PPA .20:18
korosoioria an other problem ;) what is the command on terminale to install .tar.gz20:19
korosoi_ try sudo alien20:19
koroso-k20:19
korosobut it doesnt work20:19
mochaMancan NetworkManager (in 16.04 if it matters) activate both a wired and a wireless connection at the same time? or do I need to do this without NetworkManager?20:19
ioriakoroso, ta.gz is an archive (bunch of files) not installable per se20:19
ldshBashing-om, How do I install it when either the card is not installed, ether I can't boot?20:19
korosookkk20:20
ioriakoroso, tar.gz is just an archive20:20
Bashing-om!nomodeset | ldsh20:20
ubottuldsh: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:20
korosowhich extension i can install so ?20:20
ioriakoroso,  you decompress it with tar -zxvf gile.tar.gz, maybe in a new directory thats all20:21
ioriakoroso,  you install with apt-get install ( or if you know the risks with sudo dpkg -i)20:21
Jordan_Ukoroso: There is no standard way to install that will work for all tar.gz files. They are archives that can contain any contents, they are not packages. What are you actually trying to install?20:22
ldshBashing-om, Ok, so I remove the card, change the boot option, than reboot with the card. I go try this. Do you advise to have the screen plugged to the motherboard or the graphic card?20:22
ioriakoroso,   but with .deb packages20:22
korosoyes i unzipped it then i just have to launch install file20:22
korosokk20:23
ioriakoroso,   be warned of the risks , you can break your system20:23
korosoi'm discovering ubuntu and info20:23
korosook ioria20:23
ioriakoroso,   l/ubuntu  is ok as far as you don't mess with it20:24
BluesKajldsh, have you checked ubuntu-restricted drivers in 16.10 ?20:24
davisdid something change recently regarding apt for security.ubuntu.com?20:25
ldshBluesKaj, yes20:25
davisi'm trying to do apt update and its not responding20:26
korosoi will take care20:26
koroso:)20:26
marco__ciao a tutti20:26
ioriakoroso,   good20:26
BluesKajldsh, and what was the recommended driver there?20:26
Bashing-omldsh: Card monitor connected to the installed card, sos ystem detects . bot with the nomodeset boot parameter and install the PPA source , update the system to pick up this new source, install the driver .. and finally upgrade the system .20:26
Jordan_Ukoroso: No. Don't try to do anything with the tar.gz file yet. What are you actually trying to install?20:26
korosoi want to learn more about network ;)20:27
korosoit's ok jordan ioria has already answer me20:27
korosocan  u give me an advise to for it?20:28
ldshBluesKaj, No drivers as I can't go to there with the card installed by now. So when I can access it, I'm with intel chipset20:28
korosowebsite for newbe20:29
ioriakoroso,  http://linux-training.be/linuxnet.pdf20:29
BluesKajok , ldsh so you're running a hybrid gpu system ?20:29
marco__ciao20:29
korosothank u :)20:30
ldshBluesKaj, I was running with the chipset (integrated on the CPU) for some times before I got the new GPU.20:31
Jordan_Ukoroso: Is there a reason you are refusing to tell us what you're trying to install? Installing from tar.gz is rarely a good idea. You should try to stick to getting your software from the default repositories, possibly using ppas if needed, possibly .deb files if you're desparate and tar.gz files only if you have a compelling reason to do that instead of any of the former.20:31
korosono lol it's just a software20:31
korosofor programming in python20:31
ioriayeah, that's usually20:31
korosowingkdr20:31
BluesKajldsh, then you have to set the nvidia card/pci-e as default gpu/graphics in the uefi/BIOS20:31
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ioriakoroso,  no, please python is crucial on ubuntu :þ20:32
korosook ok :)20:33
Bashing-omldsh: Did you change in bios for the new card ?20:33
ldshBluesKaj, I did it. This was needed to access the bios (And I gess to work under Windows)20:33
koroso^^ and linux using terminale for newbe do u have any doc about it ?20:33
Jordan_Ukoroso: Googling "wingkdr python" isn't showing any reasonable looking results. Is the software really named wingkdr?20:34
PiciJordan_U: maybe wingIDE20:34
ioria!terminal | koroso20:35
ubottukoroso: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:35
ioriakoroso,  is wingIDE as Pici said ?20:36
korosoyes20:37
korosolol20:37
ioriakoroso,  so, you can use .deb package ...20:37
ioriakoroso,  the first on the list20:37
korosook thank u i will download .deb20:38
ldshBashing-om, I did add the nomodeset then update-grub, shutdown, set the GPU, plugged the hdmi to the gpu, than boot, it goes trough the bios and grub (it always did after I set the bios to use first pci-e), and it get stuck on something like /dev/nvme0n1p2: clean, numbers/numbers files, numbers/numbers blocks20:38
ldsh(the strange dev name is because the OS is on a nvme ssd)20:38
ioriakoroso,  but geany can do the job (almost)20:38
BluesKajldsh, have you seen this?  http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/11/19/nvidia-375-20-released-x-org-1-19-support-ubuntu-ppa/20:39
korosogeany ;) ok i will do research about it20:39
ioriakoroso,  after the download , double-click on it20:39
ldshBluesKaj, Yes, but I first need to boot with nouveau in order to do such.20:39
ioriakoroso,  30 days of trial though20:40
BluesKajldsh, can you get to a login with nomodeset?20:43
BluesKaj!nomodeset | ldsh20:43
ubottuldsh: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:43
ldshBluesKaj, Nope, I have the message I wrote to Bashing-om . I try to reboot in case20:44
Bashing-omldsh: nvme devices I have no experience with .. All I know is that it should work now in 16.04 and above // You may have more at play here than graphics .20:44
ldshBut I have access  to tty220:45
ldshyes, the nvme did work fine. I don't think it creates a problem now20:45
BluesKajldsh, then sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade , then sudo apt install nvidia-37520:46
Bashing-omldsh: Agreed, if you can reach a TTY .. the device is recognized and we can focus on a graphic's driver .20:46
ldshYes, that's what I'm thinkinf about ;)20:47
ldshg20:47
BluesKajldsh, read my post above20:48
Bashing-omldsh: K, any return from ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? As we prepare to install a driver .20:48
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ldshSeems I only have nvidia 304 as up to date, so I'll have to install the ppa20:51
cheilhello20:51
BluesKajoh yeah forgot you needed the ppa for that driver, ldsh oops , my mistake , sorry20:52
AdriannomHi. Using XFCE, I select a wifi network on NetworkManager, it tries to connect, then says "Disconnected - you are now offline". It DOESN'T ask for password. Other devices and ubuntu machines get a password prompt as expected and can connect fine. Help?20:52
ldshBashing-om, yes, the command return only the 304.132 . I go for the ppa20:53
Bashing-omldsh: For that card you will require a later driver -- nVidia recommends the 375 version . ONLY one driver at a time can be installed . will have to purge that 304 driver prior to installing another .20:54
BluesKajusually when nvidia drivers are installed the currentr driver is removed , shouldn't have to purge20:55
ldshBashing-om, It told me it was removing the 304 when doing a apt install nvidia-37520:56
ldshBut I was surprised doing update did not update from 304 to 375 (I did install first with nvidia-current)20:56
ldshSo it's installing now. Should I remove the nomodeset? (and put it back in case it do not work)20:58
Bashing-om!info nvidia-current xenial20:58
ubottunvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): Transitional package for nvidia-current. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.132-0ubuntu0.16.04.2 (xenial), package size 4 kB, installed size 19 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)20:58
ldshrebooting20:59
Bashing-omldsh: If you set nomodeset from the grub command line ..it is then a one time thing and will not carry over a reboot .21:00
ldshAnd loggin prompt!21:00
BluesKajodd that the nvidia-367 driver wasn't default for that card21:00
AdriannomAnyone?21:00
ldshBashing-om, I don't really know what this option does and if this should be removed if possible, or kept without worry21:00
joeblowHi there.   I am having an issue where I cannot boot to the Ubuntu Desktop 64 bit 16.10 cd (or a USB stick) on my PC.   Can anyone help?21:01
joeblowI have tried with secure boot disabled, fast boot disabled, and intel rst disabled.21:01
ldshBashing-om, blueskSeems to work now :)21:02
joeblowI either get a hard lock with a black screen (keyboard lights solid and unresponsive) with USB,  or a repeated reboot when booting from DVD21:02
Bashing-omldsh: nomodeset disables Kernel Mode setting and forces to use of the fall back graphic's driver in your case .21:02
ldshBluesKaj, *21:02
A124How do I force new mysql install?21:02
joeblowMy motherboard is an Asus Maximus Ranger III with an intel skylave processor21:03
A124I mean I removed the var/lib but then new install does not ask for spassword and does not create root user21:03
joeblowsorry thats a maximus ranger viii21:04
compdocyou removed /var/lib?21:05
joeblowI can boot other UEFI disks successfully (OSX/Chameleon, Windows 10, SteamOS),  just not ubuntu21:05
ldshjoeblow, I did not try with DVD, but I had that motherboard and it was booting fine with live USB21:05
joeblowldsh,  yeah,  I was afraid it was a corrupt image,  but I redownloaded it multiple times and its the same image21:06
AdriannomNo one knows about NetworkManager?21:06
OerHeksjoeblow, any overclocking set on that mobo?21:06
ldshBashing-om, I removed the nomodeset and it still booting fine :)21:06
joeblowIt was overclocked,  and I set everything down to stock defaults.   I still see the same behavior21:07
ldshBashing-om, BluesKaj thanks for your help :)21:07
compdocAdriannom, I never install it because I dont need it. but whats the problem?21:08
AdriannomUsing XFCE, I select a wifi network on NetworkManager, it tries to connect, then says "Disconnected - you are now offline". It DOESN'T ask for password. Other devices and ubuntu machines get a password prompt as expected and can connect fine.21:10
Bashing-omldsh: To make sure that you are no longer using that boot parameter ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "Kernel command line:" ' .21:10
Adriannomcompdoc: this is a new one on me, the pc is going to be used by muggles so I need NM to be working21:12
compdocAdriannom, is XFCE your only desktop?21:14
Adriannomcompdoc: yup21:16
A124how to force package reconfigure for mysql to create root user etc?21:17
compdocAdriannom, I dont know how you put that system together, but why not just boot the ubuntu desktop without installing, and see how it's supposed to work?21:17
AdriannomSyslog says: wlp9s0 state change failed, reason "none"21:17
Adriannomcompdoc: it was working fine before :/21:18
b00b00hello21:18
compdocahh21:18
AdriannomOh, it also says wlp9s0 failed to initiate shed scan21:19
compdocthere an option to forget the connection, so you can set it up again?21:19
AdriannomTried that21:19
compdoclspci shows the wlp9s0?21:19
A124Useless channel as always21:20
AdriannomIt shows the wireless network controller21:20
compdocstill named wlp9s0?21:20
AdriannomNope, it just has a description21:21
ldshBashing-om, The nomodeset is not present in the return of the command.21:21
AdriannomNetwork controller: Intel corporation wireless 3160 (rev 93)21:21
ldshSo that should be good21:21
b00b00i wrote a script that analyze log stardate+timestamp<--->enddate+timestamp, all works fine, but the problem i ran into is like if timestamp not exist log, then i have nothing in return since value not exist, is there a good way to handle such case in bash? like if i use timestamp="2016-11-10 00:00" so if "00:00" not exist script will try from "00:01" or in case of "00", will try "01" (hours21:22
b00b00case), thanks21:22
Bashing-omldsh: Good ,, should now be good to go .. hapy trails to you :)21:22
compdocAdriannom, three should be a lof showing driver errors. maybe dmesg?21:22
compdoc*log21:22
b00b00i want to avoid extra loops and so, so asking if there is "well known solution" for such case21:23
b00b00i prefer for some reason bash in that case, so please not Python me :)21:24
Adriannomcompdoc: bunch of stuff, standing out we have "link is not ready" and "deauthenticated from <mac address?> reason: 15=4WAY_HANDSHAKE_TIMEOUT21:25
bittinpopey or anyone else here that can edit the Ubuntu wiki?21:26
Adriannom"21:26
bittinguess it should be 2016 and 2017 here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule21:26
bittinand not 2013 and 2014 :p21:26
compdocAdriannom, possible one of the little antenna connections is undone or unscrewed? tried power cycling the wap?21:27
root____5test21:29
OerHeksbittin, good find!21:29
root____5Hey, people.21:30
bittinOerHeks: heh yeah :p21:30
Adriannomcompdoc, maybe but it's a laptop. Nope but same error vs other nearby secured access points21:30
harveychello everyone from manchester21:30
Bashing-omroot____5: Not a good practice to run an IRC ckent as "root" huge security hole .21:30
root____5Yeah, Hi. Hello everyone from Baku21:31
Adriannomcompdoc: I'm going to find an ethernet port and see if reinstalling network manager helps21:32
tolecnalI'm trying to delay the start of the daemon process LCDd, so I first used: 'update-rc.d LCDd remove', followed by 'update-rc.d LCDd defaults 10 10' to have it with a lower priority. However, when I look at the symlinks created in rc2.d/ -> rc5.d/, they are all listed as 'S03LCDd', meaning it doesn't respect my custom values. This is under 16.04LTS. I haven't used 16.04 that much, but used update-rc.d quit21:34
tolecnale a bit under 12.04 and 14.04 without ...21:34
tolecnal... issues, is this dealt with differently from 16.04 and onwards?21:34
davison ubuntu, do you use ethtool or nm to change settings for autonegotiate, 1000mb, full duplex?  I'm trying to modify via ethtool and it does not ocmpleain but afterwards when I query the interface it is still set for autonegotiate21:34
davisnm-connection-editor does not show any ui for mondifying these settings21:35
davisbut I also don't know where to put them so they stick after reboot21:35
Bashing-omtolecnal: Short response is yes .. 16.04 is now systemd rather than upstart.21:35
Bashing-omtolecnal: To convert from upstart to systemd see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .21:36
tolecnalBashing-om: thanks, much appreciated21:40
Bashing-omtolecnal: Well .. at leat point ya in the right direction, though no direct help :)21:44
alex123Hi what is the PPA for Barry: http://www.netdirect.ca/software/packages/barry/installdebian.php21:44
tolecnalBashing-om: hehe, I don't think I'll bother with rewriting it just as of yet. I think I'll rather just rename the symlinks manually :) less work.21:45
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debkadalex123: try the deb from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/barry/files/barry/21:46
Bashing-omtolecnal: I am all for "less work" .21:46
alex123debkad, thanks :)21:46
tolecnalBashing-om: had it been for work, I'd put more effort into it. This however is for my HTPC at home, so not really that critical.21:46
Picialex123: it looks like the barry packages are in the Ubuntu repos, no need for a PPA21:46
Pici(oh, nevermind, they were removed)21:47
malkaunsis there a way to resize a Xephyr window on the fly?21:47
DBSNodeNO21:47
DBSNodeforget it21:47
DBSNodeyou can't21:47
alex123Pici and debkad, appreciate  your help :D21:47
debkadNo problem :)21:47
malkaunslol thx21:49
malkaunscan u move an app window between different Xephyr window sessions?21:50
MarkuTiCPU: and others I finally fixed it..  i had to select the efi in ubuntu within the bios security tab... thanks for helping me21:54
debkadmalkauns: i don't know about Xephyr, but may be xdotool can have some useful task that you can use with Xephyr21:57
malkaunshmm21:57
malkaunswas thinking even maybe Xephyr combined with Xpra21:58
debkadmalkauns: here is someone have something related to Xephyr and he used xdotool http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/186273/emulate-key-combination-with-xdotool ( as a hint )21:59
malkaunsk, thx will read21:59
wirebrush456fghf22:01
wirebrush456ah i can talk22:01
debkadcongratulation wirebrush45622:02
wirebrush456clones eh22:02
wirebrush456clones allowed?22:03
debkad?22:03
debkadmany nicks?22:03
wirebrush456ya22:03
debkad3 i think22:03
wirebrush456[22:02] Clones detected in ##linux: ngkaho1234 ngkaho1234_phone (*!*@unaffiliated/ngkaho1234)22:04
naccwirebrush456: asking that question sort of implies you are not here for the right reason ...22:04
debkadanyway it depends on rules i guess22:04
wirebrush456i am just randomly clicking the mirc servers to be honest22:05
Jordan_Uwirebrush456: Please take offtopic chatter elsewhere to keep this channel clear for Ubuntu support.22:05
naccwirebrush456: don't do that.22:05
wirebrush456this server is massive huh22:05
wirebrush456ok22:05
wirebrush456sorry22:06
wirebrush456thousands of people man22:06
naccwirebrush456: please stay on topic, the size of the channel is irrelevant22:06
wirebrush456ok22:06
wirebrush456well i was thinking of getting an old laptop and putting some linux on it22:08
mpakhi22:10
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Bashing-omwirebrush456: Old hardware generally == (l)ubuntu in this channel .22:16
malkaunsnacc, please stay on topic, the fact that he is talking about the size of the channel is irrelevant :P22:17
wirebrush456we are the borg you will be assimilated the size of the channel is irrelevant22:18
fooobarrroh nice there's an airgas right near my work22:18
slavanapDoes current Ubuntu kernel supports auditd (auditctl) or what is alternatives?22:18
winsenhi all22:19
winsenI need to change grub boot order, can you tell me which number I should use to make windows7 first, I don't understand  the 2 first lines :https://paste.debian.net/897848/22:19
malkaunsfooobarrr, airgas is irrelevant22:19
slavanapwinsen, why you want to make Windows first? Just google grub save state. It will resolve almost all issues with OS loading.22:20
debkadwinsen: you can rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to /etc/grub.d/06_os-prober or /etc/grub.d/07_os-prober or /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober and update grub22:21
Jordan_Udebkad: winsen: Don't do that.22:21
Jordan_Uwinsen: Use GRUB_DEFAULT='osprober-chain-6C262A14372B6B22' in /etc/default/grub to make Windows the default entry.22:22
slavanapwinsen, http://askubuntu.com/questions/148662/how-to-get-grub2-to-remember-last-choice22:22
debkadJordan_U: what's wrong with that?22:22
Jordan_Udebkad: It will cause problems when the grub-common package gets updated with changes to /etc/grub.d/ .22:22
slavanapDoes anyone know about auditctl?22:23
debkadi never had an issue with that methode .. may be things changed22:23
slavanapI want to log all network outgoing connections on my system. What I should use?22:23
L0g4nAd4msOMG why is that that I have to make eclipse use GTK 2 because the default value 3 will hang my system ?22:25
L0g4nAd4mshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/761604/eclipse-not-working-in-16-04 ?22:25
Adriannomcompdoc: I've run out of time for today but thanks for your help :)22:27
compdocAdriannom, you should still boot the desktop22:28
compdocto see if the hardware is good22:28
compdoc*ubuntu desktop22:28
Jordan_UL0g4nAd4ms: Because this bug hasn't been fixed yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/java-common/+bug/1552764 If you'd like help working around the bug we can do that here, but if you're just here to complain about it not being fixed please move that to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.22:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1552764 in swt-gtk (Ubuntu) "Eclipse and SWT are very slow/hang on a fresh 16.04 install (gtk3/swt issue)" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:28
Adriannomcompdoc: loaded windows and it worked fine22:29
compdocok. good luck22:29
AdriannomThanks :)22:29
slavanapcompdoc, have you ever used auditctl or alternatives?22:30
compdocslavanap, no22:30
L0g4nAd4msJordan_U, why is  that that on a LTS version shit aint stable ?22:31
slavanapoh, it still supported although description references 2.6 kernel.22:32
slavanaphttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30046/logging-outgoing-connections-as-they-happen22:32
Jordan_UL0g4nAd4ms: That isn't a support question. Again, this channel is for support only. If you want to discuss why things are the way they are, or rant about your problems, please do so elsewhere.22:33
cnidarian_kinghello22:35
L0g4nAd4msJordan_U, ok well then.22:36
L0g4nAd4msi think this just a serious problem.22:36
supercooluserdoes anyone know where git puts the gitignore file?? i just installed git and am looking for the gitignore file.22:40
supercooluserer sorry, the .gitconfig file22:40
naccsupercooluser: um, that's in the repository, generally22:40
naccsupercooluser: oh, .git/config or ~/.gitconfig, etc.22:41
naccsupercooluser: it's not present by default, if that's what you're asking?22:41
supercoolusernacc, i want the global one so i can declare aliases that will be used in all my repositories22:41
naccsupercooluser: that's most appropriate to put in ~/.gitconfig22:41
naccsupercooluser: note that you sholnd't even need that level of knowledge, though22:42
naccsupercooluser: use `git config --global ...`22:42
naccsupercooluser: or `git config --system ...` if you insist, but if they are only needed for your user's repos, then the former is better, IMO22:42
supercoolusernaac, information overload. i think i got it though22:43
supercooluserill try both22:43
supercoolusergit installed in /usr/bin. so do i put the .gitignore file there?22:43
naccsupercooluser: no22:44
Sean_McGhi, how do I properly bump the package version of a kernel when I am building it with custom patches? Is it determined from debian.<release>/changelog?22:44
naccsupercooluser: perhaps read `man git-config`, but you want to put it in ~/.gitconfig, a file called .gitconfig in your home directory (or just use `git config --global`)22:45
Sean_McGbasically I patched a kernel I got from 'apt-get source $(uname -r)' and ran 'fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic' and the package name matched my currently running kernel which is not what I want22:46
naccSean_McG: you should do a `dch -i` before building22:46
naccSean_McG: to add a changelog entry22:46
Sean_McGOK22:46
naccSean_McG: but that won't necessarily bump your version 'correctly', it depends on what you are doing and what you want22:47
supercoolusernaac, thank you22:47
Sean_McGI just want to prevent apt-get from offering me the kernel I had before. I understand that when the external repos bump the package I will have to re-do mine but that is fine.22:48
Sean_McGI'm currently on trusty, but I've switched to kernel 4.4.0 for the HWE update earlier this year.22:48
vfwSean_McG: You can blacklist kernel upgrades.22:50
hunter07hello buddies22:50
tak3d0wnhello22:51
hunter07how are you today ?22:51
tak3d0wndoing fine. youself?22:51
hunter07nice to meet you i'm indonesian, and i use ths hex chat with22:51
hunter07gnome22:51
tgm4883!OT22:51
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Sean_McGvfw: that's with 'dpkg --set-selection' ? Not a bad idea, but first I have to fix my local versioning issue22:52
hunter07ada orang indonesia ?22:53
OerHeksbittin, it is changed.22:54
hunter07jancok aku bingung cok nang kene22:54
hunter07wassu tenan terahe22:54
tgm4883Sean_McG: If you are just doing it for yourself, the version could look any way you want. What you'll probably want to do though is something like this   4.8.0-20.22+seanmcg22:57
Sean_McGtgm4883: cheers, will try that22:59
Sean_McG8-core i7 and this still takes a while to build23:03
krad_huh23:08
nds_if i upgraded to yakkety correctly, am i mean to get updates from both yakkety in release and xenial in release?23:12
geniiNo, just Yakkety23:12
nds_ok, i had som trouble with a bug during the recommended update-manager, but with dist upgrade and install -f i have upgraded many packets and the kernel is on 4.8. should i manually edit the /etc/lsb-release to yakkety?23:15
Sean_McGI should plan to upgrade to xenial soon... maybe during the Christmas break when I have the time23:15
Bashing-omnds_: Have you rebooted since ?23:16
nds_hm, once. btw, now the gui-updater added xenial to sources.list, i should just delete that line right? i have 5 lines for yakkety there23:16
geniinds_: dist-upgrade will only upgrade applications over major releases and kernels. To go to a new *buntu ditribution is normally do-release-upgrade23:16
nds_ok23:17
Jordan_Unds_: Don't do anything more until we're more clear what the current state of your installation is.23:18
nds_sure23:18
Jordan_Unds_: How did you attempt to upgrade, and what exactly happened?23:18
Bashing-omnds_: Also, your sources.list file controls what repo you are accessing . have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list to see what release you are working with at this time .23:18
nds_i dont remember every permutation of commands i ran, but i tried doing it accordingly to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes but it crashed due to some crash related to python2.7 float unicode something23:20
nds_mid install, after that i tried running it in some other ways, like do-release-upgrade but they all failed23:20
hellohi there23:20
nds_at one point my repos was pointed to 17.04, then i deleted sources.list23:21
nds_at some point i was able to do apt install -f to be able to do apt dist-upgrade which ran for a long time and pretty much fixed everything, it installed 4.823:21
nds_and now im here, many packets, like apt, is on a much higher version than on my old 16.0423:22
nds_but the gui-menu says 16.04 and my /etc/lsb.. says 16.0423:22
nds_i maybe ran do-release-upgrade after dist-upgrade, but then it didnt take effect23:22
nds_hm23:22
nds_should i run some command to give you a summary of my state?23:23
Bashing-omnds_: In my mind 1st is to look at the sources.list . pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' . so we know what we are working with and toward .23:25
Bashing-om!paste | nds_23:26
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Sean_McGwhat the... I did a 'fakeroot debian/rules clean' and I think it smoked my changelog changes23:27
nds_http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519513/23:29
nds_i manually deleted the xenial lines the "Software & Updates" GUI added when i checked boxes for updates (they say for example "xenial-security" so i expected it to happen)23:30
* Sean_McG aways for food -- thanks for the hints 23:35
Bashing-omnds_: Will have to work on your sources.list file ( get restricted and multiverse back ) but for now .. what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?23:35
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nds_result, held back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519537/23:38
nds_kept back* :)23:38
geniinds_: use dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade23:40
nds_same result23:41
nds_i could paste it but i see that its exactly the same23:41
Bashing-omnds_: Now-a-days .. ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' is prefered over the apt-get dist-upgrade . May as well learn the new .23:41
nds_ty, yeah :) i dont even know the old, it is awesome to learn what the commands really do23:42
nds_same result again23:42
nds_is it because i have yakk in sources.list but my system think its on xenial?23:43
Bashing-omnds_: Do not know yet .. please pastebin the result of ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' . Let all see what you are looking at .23:44
nds_http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519566/23:45
Bashing-om!info cpp-523:46
ubottucpp-5 (source: gcc-5): GNU C preprocessor. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.1-2ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 7549 kB, installed size 22295 kB23:47
Bashing-omnds_: Does not bode well, huh ? .. what returns ' apt-cache policy cpp-5 ' for a point of reference .23:48
nds_http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519589/23:49
nds_ah now when i read the packages names.. theyre important23:50
Bashing-omgenii: nds_ Not real sure of a best paractice here .. maybe best to fix the sources.list file before trying to --reinstall the held packages ??23:54
nds_should i remove the yakkety, let the "Software & Updates" GUI fill it with rows when i check the checkboxes?23:55
nds_what would do-release-upgrade do here23:55
Bashing-omnds_: All indications are presently that you are on yakkety . As such leave yakketty sources .. as to "do-release-upgrade" that is to go to the next release .. as of now there is no next in line .23:58

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