[00:00] <marku> I had Kubuntu 16.04 i booted Ubuntu 16.04 and hit destroy it and install Ubuntu
[00:00] <marku> and that was the end lol
[00:00] <marku> I guess I will check my bios idk
[00:01] <Jordan_U> marku: Do you want me to walk you through booting your local install from your USB drive?
[00:02] <marku> that is a temporary solution though right? I use this for school and development.. Kinda need a perm solution :/
[00:02] <oblio> tgm4883: so i got some progress, if i turn ssl_enable=NO it works fine, if i flip it to ssl_enable=YES, it stops working, but i have no idea why
[00:02] <oblio> i removed all the other ssl options
[00:02] <oblio> except for that
[00:02] <Jordan_U> marku: Resetting your boot firmware to factory defaults might help.
[00:03] <marku> I guess I will try booting into bios and doing that.. thanks Jordan_U
[00:03] <Jordan_U> marku: You're welcome.
[00:03] <marku> I'll be back if i actually get my pc back
[00:06] <mark_in_hollywoo> Nvidia 6510SE in-built into motherboard cannot be set to nvidia-340, even though Settings/Drivers can find it. With nvidia-340 installed, no login possible, only infinite login loop. Purging nvidia*, OS reverts to 640x480, but until this weekend, could run in 1280x1040.
[00:06] <mark_in_hollywoo> Today, I tried to do a re-install of 16.04 and LiveUSB will not boot, even though BIOS can and at boot time F-11 brings up thumb drive to boot from. Selecting persistent (Unetbootin made) drive falls back to SATA (regular boot drive) and gives 640x480 res.
[00:06] <mark_in_hollywoo> Even the DVD drive is dead.
[00:06] <mark_in_hollywoo> On "regular" boot, screen resolution if 640x480 and Settings/Displays has no options.
[00:06] <mark_in_hollywoo> This an Athlon X2 620 4 core 64bit CPU. It used to have no problem booting from a LiveUSB drive. True since 12.04LTS+.
[00:08] <mark_in_hollywoo> I'm new at at IRC. I'm appending this to prevent the 260 seconds timeout. Thnx.
[00:11] <khuseyn> есть кто живой?
[00:11] <nacc> !ru | khuseyn
[00:12] <Marku> Jordan reset bios should secure boot and UEFI boot be enabled
[00:12] <nullbites> Здравствуйте
[00:12] <TechMonger> should i set up my raid before or after i set up my samba server?
[00:13] <khuseyn> Здарова
[00:13] <TechMonger> or does it matter
[00:13] <khuseyn> !!!
[00:13] <mark_in_hollywoo> Older BIOS no UEFI option. Sorry I didn't say that earlier.
[00:13] <Bashing-om> !raid | TechMonger
[00:14] <Marku> I'm doomed
[00:15] <TechMonger> Bashing-om, im doing a software raid
[00:15] <Marku> Well I have a near brand-new computer rendered useless FML
[00:16] <mark_in_hollywoo> Sorry, FML? No comprendo.
[00:16] <Marku> FML = $uck my life
[00:17] <Bashing-om> TechMonger: Ya build the raid array, set up the file system and then install the operating system .
[00:17] <Marku> No bootable device lol
[00:18] <TechMonger> Bashing-om, the OS is going to be on a separate SSD
[00:18] <nacc> TechMonger: those seem like sort of different problems/solutions?
[00:19] <nacc> TechMonger: if you are planning on sharing the raid via samba, then of course you need to configure the raid first before you can share it (but you could setup samba first, without sharing anything, i suppose)
[00:19] <Bashing-om> TechMonger: Still, got to have a file system in order to copy any files onto it .
[00:20] <TechMonger> Bashing-om, right. i was just giving more info
[00:20] <TechMonger> Bashing-om, thx for the help
[00:21] <Bashing-om> TechMonger: Not much help .. just holding your hand .
[00:34] <bctim_> Quick question about grep, when I grep I only want it to return the word/set of words linked with - untill there is a space.  Currently just doing: dir/document | grep lib*
[00:34] <bctim_> currently it will return the whole line that contains the lib word
[00:36] <nacc> bctim_: do you mean -o ?
[00:40] <bctim_> nacc, So when I do grep with the example I used before i get the output libuuid-perl : Depends:*
[00:41] <bctim_> nacc, i want the output to be limited to libuuid-perl
[00:42] <nacc> bctim_: 'lib*' is not an accurate regex then, probably, as it's greedy and capturing the remainder of the line
[00:43] <nacc> bctim_: also grep is arguably not the best tool to extract parts of lines
[00:43] <nacc> bctim_: consider using sed or awk
[00:43] <superguest> I have a question on the Ubuntu software package versioning scheme.
[00:43] <nacc> superguest: just ask
[00:44] <superguest> Take for example, the GCC software package, 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.2
[00:45] <superguest> let's focus on the digit before and after "ubuntu"
[00:45] <superguest> what do they denote?
[00:45] <nacc> 5.4.0 is the upstream version
[00:46] <superguest> e.g. 0ubuntu0, 0ubuntu1, ....
[00:46] <nacc> -6 is the debian suffix, indicating (typically) how many times that upstrema has been published in debian, although not all will actually necessarily be published (ime)
[00:46] <nacc> ubuntu indicates it is an ubuntu release
[00:46] <nacc> 1 indicates it's the first such ubuntu patch to the debian release
[00:47] <nacc> ~16.04.2 is a way to indicate that it comes after ubuntu1, but if an ubuntu2 came out, it should take precedence; that is usually done when the same version is released to multiple streams
[00:47] <superguest> nacc, thanks.  I had this question on my mind for a looonnng time.
[00:47] <nacc> superguest: 0ubuntu indicates the corresponding upstream has not been release by Debian
[00:47] <nacc> superguest: i don't believe you'd see a 0ubuntu0 in the wild
[00:48] <superguest> nacc, "ffmpeg version 2.8.8-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2016 the FFmpeg developers"
[00:48] <bctim_> How do I create an output that only contains words that start with lib? This would include words like lib-something.
[00:48] <nacc> superguest: ah, that's 0ubuntu0.16.04.1
[00:48] <nacc> superguest: the suffix is one long string
[00:48] <nacc> superguest: 0.16.04.1
[00:48] <Shayd3> Hey all
[00:51] <Shayd3> So I tried doing some research and can’t come up with a fix. I just installed ubuntu 16.04 on my pc, everything went swimingly. But for some reason, I keep getting random black screens which is only resolved by restarting the PC. This seems to happen when ever I play a video or something, haven’t been able to pinpoint what causes it to happen yet.
[00:51] <Shayd3> When I try to boot into recovery, then just go into normal boot, the drivers do not load properly (which is to be expected) and everything is fine until I reboot again. The drivers load propety and the same thing happens again, random black screens. Any ideas?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> !info libdvd-pkg | Shayd3 Maybe : Is this installed ??
[00:53] <OerHeks> ..random black screens .. sounds like dust in the gpu fan
[00:54] <Shayd3> Shouldn’t be a problem with overheating. Everything is spotless
[00:54] <OerHeks> "the drivers do not load properly " how do you tell? and what driver, what gpu ?
[00:56] <Shayd3> I can tell because when the PC boots into GRUB, I select ‘Advanced Options for Ubuntu’ and then select ‘Ubuntu, w/ Linux 4.4…… (Recovery Mode)’. Once the ‘Recovery Menu’ pops up, I select ‘resume — Resume normal Boot’. Before intiating the book, it says “Please note that some graphic drivers require a full graphical boot and so will fail when resuming from recovery” I can tell this is the case because when
[00:56] <Shayd3> log in screen shows up, the resolution is jacked up and low-quality.
[00:56] <Shayd3> gpu is amd R9 390
[00:57] <Shayd3> ubottu: how can I tell?
[00:58] <Shayd3> Oh whoops.
[00:59] <superguest> nacc, what do you mean by the number of times that upstream has been published in Debian?  So, in the case of GCC 5.4.0 (the upstream version), are you saying that it is common to have the same upstream version published multiple times in Debian ?  i.e. 6ubuntu1
[01:00] <nacc> superguest: what's the name of the actual package?
[01:00] <superguest> 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.2
[01:00] <nacc> superguest: that's the version
[01:00] <nacc> superguest: i think you are referring to gcc-5
[01:00] <nacc> !info gcc-5 xenial
[01:01] <nacc> superguest: so the above string says there have been 6 'releases' (if you look at the debian/changelog file) of upstream 5.4.0 in Debian
[01:01] <nacc> superguest: at least, there were, when that version of Ubuntu was made
[01:04] <superguest> nacc, which brings back to my question, is it common to have the same upstream version published multiple times in Debian?  I am new to this, and is wondering why you would want to publish 6  releases of the same version (5.4.0) ?
[01:04] <nacc> superguest: read the changelog
[01:04] <nacc> superguest: that's how you get bugfixes in debian, e.g.
[01:05] <nacc> superguest: the base upstream is unmodified, and each -# is some set of chnages on the last
[01:06] <peeps[lappy]> i want to get rid of mt swap partition without breaking anything.  is it enough to remove it from fstab?  then i can edit the partition and use it for other purposes?
[01:06] <kk4ewt> peeps[lappy], how much ram and are you using a ssd drive?
[01:07] <peeps[lappy]> 12GB, yes
[01:07] <superguest> nacc, okay.  I get it now.
[01:07] <kk4ewt> then yes
[01:18] <Shayd3> Dang just did a fresh install too, same problem is happening.
[01:20] <peeps[lappy]> is there a way to list installed packages sorted by disk space used?
[01:26] <Shayd3> So when a video is playing, and it has sound, when the black screen problem happens, it will loop like… the last .5 seconds of the audio over and over and over again
[01:36] <Bashing-om> peeps[lappy]: The following command is useful for finding out which directories are using all your space...' du -h --max-depth=1 | sort -hr ' . The operative here is 'du' where there can be many convolutions :)
[01:42] <tak3d0wn> I am running ubuntu 16.04. I updated grub and now it is only booting directly to the command line minimum grub. When I use exit command it only goes back to the minimum grub command line. If I exit twice then it goes into insert boot media screen. Any help?
[01:43] <vfw> peeps[lappy]: du |sort -n
[01:43] <peeps[lappy]> thanks, but i was asking specifically about packages.  anyways i found an answer, dpigs is one application that will show package usage
[01:45] <vfw> peeps[lappy]: du |sort -n [Lists directories, largest last]  ls -ltrS [lists files, largest last]
[01:49] <Shayd3> Anyone know what log file I can look at it to see if graphic drivers are the cause to my black screen problem?
[01:50] <trf> If i'm reformatting my drive to install 16.10, is that sufficient to "delete" my current data, or should I use a software like bleachbit for a more complete removal of data
[01:50] <reisio> Shayd3: what black screen problem?
[01:50] <reisio> trf: are you worried about someone attempting to recover old data on your drive?
[01:50] <trf> Well, it'd be nice to know that all old data is gone
[01:50] <trf> would provide more peace of mind
[01:51] <Shayd3> This is a clean install of Ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 10. The screen will randomly go black and become unresponsive. The only thing that solves it is a restart, then when I’m going about my normal business again, it will randomly happen again.
[01:51] <Shayd3> When playing audio/video, the last .5 seconds of the sound will loop over and over again
[01:51] <reisio> trf: fair enough; a single pass with zeroes will cover that
[01:51] <trf> reisio is that an option during the gui install?
[01:51] <Shayd3> reisio: the graphics card I have in here is a R9 390
[01:51] <reisio> trf: just be careful you're zeroing exactly the right drive: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/FOO# bs=1M status=progress
[01:52] <reisio> trf: I don't know, but I doubt it is
[01:52] <reisio> trf: you can do it from the live image, though, if you do 'Try Ubuntu'
[01:52] <trf> ok, i'll do that
[01:52] <trf> in the terminal?
[01:52] <reisio> Shayd3: sudo lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|driver' | grep -i vga -A 1
[01:53] <reisio> trf: yes, just be sure you get the /dev/FOO# part right
[01:53] <trf> Do you know of a gui tool?
[01:53] <trf> I
[01:53] <trf> I'm a newcomer to the terminal in general
[01:54] <reisio> no; there probably are some, but it wouldn't really be much safer
[01:54] <reisio> trf: sudo lsblk -f will enumerate all the storage devices visible to the live OS
[01:54] <reisio> trf: if you see only /dev/sda (no sdb, etc.), then you have but one, and you can safely use of=/dev/sda
[01:54] <trf> ok, thanks
[01:54] <Shayd3> out put is: “01:00.0 VGA compatible: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290] (rev 80) Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel”
[01:55] <trf> I have multiple partitions because I dual boot
[01:55] <Shayd3> It’s weird because I have an R9 390… not 290.
[01:55] <trf> But the clean install will be only ubuntu
[01:55] <reisio> Shayd3: mmm, actually run sudo lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|driver'
[01:55] <reisio> Shayd3: and see if there are any other drivers listed after 'snd_hda_intel'
[01:56] <reisio> trf: okay, well if you had one hard disk and multiple partitions they'd show up as /dev/sda and /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc.
[01:56] <trf> Got it
[01:56] <reisio> trf: if you run cfdisk /dev/sda you can get a quick breakdown by size (I would just Quit after confirming which is which, though)
[01:56] <Shayd3> “Kernel driver in use: ath9k \n kernel driver in use: r8169”
[01:56] <Shayd3> \n = new line
[01:56] <reisio> Shayd3: okay, well, that suggests that your graphics driver is quite wrong
[01:57] <Shayd3> I’m not entirely too sure how to go about correcting it, to be honest haha very new user
[01:57] <reisio> Shayd3: is it a laptop?
[01:57] <Shayd3> Nope, PC
[01:57] <Shayd3> desktop*
[01:57] <trf> reisio Thanks, I don't need to worry much about wiping everything since I'm reformatting (I just need to be careful not to wipe the installation USB)
[01:57] <reisio> okay
[01:58] <Shayd3> What exactly SHOULD be there?
[01:58] <reisio> Shayd3: read this here first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[01:59] <trf> reisio on second thought, I'm going to be doing full disk encryption of the new install. So wouldn't the old data be protected by that encryption?
[02:00] <Shayd3> should I get my hands on AMDGPU-Pro hybrid driver?
[02:00] <trf> reisio by old data i'm referring to the data that will be deleted by the reformatting process
[02:00] <reisio> trf: not really...
[02:00] <reisio> not unless you do encryption the stupid way that many people do
[02:01] <trf> Whats the stupid way
[02:01] <reisio> Shayd3: for a desktop I wouldn't _think_ so
[02:01] <reisio> trf: I don't want you to do the stupid way
[02:01] <reisio> it's stupid
[02:01] <trf> Haha
[02:01] <trf> alright
[02:01] <trf> Well what I do is use the tool built into the installation
[02:01] <trf> LUKS full disk encryption
[02:04] <Bashing-om> Shayd3: Per: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu ; you should have the radeon driver .
[02:04] <Shayd3> So looking at this, It appears that I have no 3D Hardware acceleration either...
[02:12] <trf> why am I getting an invalid partition table error when booting from USB
[02:12] <trf> is it because i'm booting in legacy?
[02:17] <loganlee> hello friends
[02:18] <loganlee> im running ubuntu
[02:18] <loganlee> :)
[02:18] <TiCPU> I have started a virtual machine in virt-manager running ubuntu, when ubuntu is booted within the VM, the mouse works like the USB tablet even though the tablet isn't installed, is there a way to get the mouse confined like it does on other OSes?
[02:19] <reisio> TiCPU: what vm system is it, kvm?
[02:19] <TiCPU> virt-manager/kvm/q35
[02:20] <Shayd3> So I installed amdgpu, how can I tell if it was successful?
[02:20] <loganlee> mouse works like USB tablet?
[02:21] <TiCPU> loganlee, yes, it does not get confined like the PS/2 mouse should do, it works like an absolute device
[02:21] <reisio> TiCPU: isn't it CTRL or ALT?
[02:22] <TiCPU> the guest is running yakkety,  I also have a win10 VM running which also has the PS/2 mouse and I have to click then press CTRL+ALT to release
[02:22] <TiCPU> I'd like the Ubuntu VM to do the same
[02:22] <Shayd3> ffs yeah installed AMDGPU did absolutely nothing...
[02:23] <TiCPU> Shayd3, what part of AMDGPU, kernel or xorg?
[02:24] <Shayd3> ….uhhh I have no idea. I followed this http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[02:24] <TiCPU> Shayd3, why did you install it? gaming, multi-display, desktop performance in general?
[02:24] <TiCPU> or even wine support?
[02:25] <Shayd3> Black screen problem.
[02:25] <Shayd3> Randomly black screens
[02:25] <Shayd3> only resolution is to restart
[02:25] <TiCPU> running trusty, xenial or yakkety?
[02:25] <Shayd3> Im sorry?
[02:26] <TiCPU> trusty kernel is too old and has problems running AMDGPU for cards like RX480 for example
[02:26] <TiCPU> Shayd3, ok then, running ubuntu 14.04, 16.04 or 16.10?
[02:26] <Shayd3> 16.04
[02:26] <Shayd3> My card is a R9 390
[02:27] <TiCPU> I said trusty but meant xenial,  kernel 4.4 included in 16.04 is too old and has problems running recent cards
[02:27] <Shayd3> What would you recommend?
[02:27] <Shayd3> Use 16.10?
[02:28] <TiCPU> you can try using the 16.10 kernel to start with, is it easy to revert (directly from boot)
[02:28] <Shayd3> my one buddy suggested reinstalling xorg
[02:29] <OerHeks> use 16.10 with kernel 4.8 for that card
[02:29] <vfw> !nomodeset
[02:30] <TiCPU> anyone knows when linux-lts-yakkety package will be out?  it seems to be missing
[02:30] <Shayd3> how do I go about using 16.10 with kernal 4.8?
[02:31] <TiCPU> if you upgrade to 16.10 you get 4.8 automatically
[02:31] <Shayd3> Gotcha ok.
[02:31] <OerHeks> upgrade, change in sources lts>lts to any new version
[02:31] <Shayd3> will try upgrading! will chime back in with results
[02:33] <TiCPU> Shayd3, I'm currently runing kernel 4.8 on my xenial with RX480, works wonderfully for gaming, mining and GPU passthrough
[02:33] <TiCPU> well.. for GPU passthrough I had to do some tweaking
[02:34] <tgm4883> TiCPU: did you also need to upgrade to Mesa 13?
[02:39] <TiCPU> tgm4883, I did not need to upgrade mesa but I had to patch libcogl20 for gnome-shell, however, unity was working fine
[02:41] <TiCPU> I stopped using gnome-shell 2 days ago after a year of using it, it slows down the UI way too much probably and leaks memory way too much, had to do ALT+F2, R  to respawn it every 3 days or so.
[02:41] <TiCPU> I meant, probably because it leaks
[02:45] <tgm4883> TiCPU: amdgpu or amdgpu-pro
[02:45] <TiCPU> pro
[02:46] <tgm4883> I feel like some hand I was trying to play wanted Mesa 13 with amd
[02:46] <tgm4883> Game*
[02:47] <TiCPU> I had problem with some wine games that suggested mesa 13, but since then I now have GPU passthrough setup for win10
[02:48] <tgm4883> TiCPU you're getting good performance in Linux with that? I'm getting kinda bad performance I think
[02:48] <kostkon> TiCPU, might interest you https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactive-are-requesting-that-canonical-get-mesa-updates-into-an-official-ppa.8559  also per HWE release schedule 16.04 will get the 16.10 kernel and X in february
[02:51] <tgm4883> I should revert back to Mesa 12. I feel like I had better performance with my GTX 760
[02:51] <TiCPU> tgm4883, well, most recent game I play is Overwatch using GPU passthrough; all graphics topped off, no lag whatsoever;  if you're talking about the amgpu-pro drivers on Linux itself, well, I don't play much GPU intensive game on Linux, I'd say, Portal 2 at best... graphic at maximum no lag but that is to be expected with such a game.  I also had SC2 on Wine and performance were not terrible but not great neither.
[02:51] <xandro> hi everyone
[02:51] <xandro> need your help
[02:52] <xandro> anyone can help ?
[02:52] <xandro> please
[02:52] <TiCPU> xandro, don't ask to ask, just ask.
[02:52] <xandro> ok thanks TiCPU
[02:53] <Shayd3> Welp I’m pissed. The black screen issue just happened during the upgrade.
[02:53] <TiCPU> Shayd3, can you let it complete or use a SSH shell?
[02:53] <xandro> I just want to ask how can I install snort-mysql in ubuntu server 14.04 lts ?
[02:53] <Shayd3> Nope. The system hangs.
[02:54]  * TiCPU remembers having system locks up using integrated grahics on its i7-6700K..
[02:57] <xandro> @TiCPU, how can I install snort-mysql in ubuntu server 14.04 ?
[02:58] <TiCPU> xandro, I for myself, never used snort. Maybe some else in the channel may help you, the important is to ask to see if anyone can help.
[02:58] <xandro> anyone have tried to setup snort+mysql here?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> !info snort-mysql trusty
[03:02] <TiCPU> Shayd3, did you get the computer booted up again?
[03:03] <Shayd3> Nope won’t let me log in, currently making a new ubuntu live USB with 16.10 on it.
[03:03] <Shayd3> it was a fresh install of 16.04 so I’m not losing anything
[03:03] <TiCPU> I just found out linux-image-4.8.0-27-generic/xenial-proposed  is available, but if won't login anymore, no luck.
[03:03] <TiCPU> you can attempt to resume the dist-upgrade using apt-get -f install though
[03:04] <xandro> @ubottu, where can I found snort-mysql?
[03:06] <vfw> !nomodeset | Shayd3
[03:07] <TiCPU> vfw, that won't work on amdgpu, this driver was built for use with modeset
[03:08] <TiCPU> s/modeset/KMS
[03:10] <vfw> TiCPU: lspci |grep -i vga
[03:12] <vfw> TiCPU: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[03:14] <TiCPU> vfw, that page doesn't say anything about nomodeset; AMDGPU drivers were built to use kernel mode setting, using nomodeset disables this. It will only break the driver and prevent it from loading properly.
[03:14] <vfw> TiCPU: I did not say that it said anything about nomodeset.
[03:15] <vfw> TiCPU: It appears to be about installing amdgpu-pro
[03:16] <TiCPU> well, that was misleading, since this link was posted by shayd3 some lines ago.
[03:18] <vfw> I didn't see shady3's post
[03:18] <vfw> TiCPU: I just found the information and thought it might be useful to you.  I don't know, just look and see.
[03:19] <TiCPU> I had my drivers installed from that page, thanks anyway :) Works fine here.
[03:20] <vfw> Oh, well, I guess I sent the information to the wrong person. Sorry.
[03:28] <michael_p> hi
[03:29] <Marku_> when installing Ubuntu do i need to keep the fat32 EFI partition? I installed Ubuntu but it's not booting.. still trying to figure this out.
[03:29] <michael_p> how can i delte files names like -200x200 in bulk
[03:30] <TiCPU> michael_p, if you can use find,   find . -type f -iname "-???x???.png" -print0 | xargs -0 rm -v
[03:30] <TiCPU> Marku_, if you booted using EFI from the boot menu, Ubuntu should take care of that, if you partition yourself, you need one yes
[03:30] <michael_p> what about delete
[03:30] <TiCPU> michael_p, might I suggest running rm -i first
[03:31] <TiCPU> michael_p, that's what the xargs part is for
[03:31] <Marku_> TiCPU: i have been trying to get ubuntu to boot all day,  I have a ext3 a efi and a swap which one should be the boot
[03:31] <Marku_> if you can assist me I'd be less likely to kill myself lol
[03:32] <TiCPU> find <directory, may be . for current dir> -type f (for file) -iname <filename as wildcard pattern> -print0 (for xargs) | xargs -0 rm -i
[03:32] <TiCPU> Marku_, RAID, LVM?
[03:32] <Marku_> Just a laptop
[03:32] <Marku_> and ubuntu 16.04
[03:33] <Marku_> no raid or what ever lvm is
[03:33] <trf> Looking for help: my USB iso image of 16.10 won't boot. I get the invalid partition table error. I created it using unetbootin (formatted to FAT32 beforehand)
[03:33] <TiCPU> just booting a Ubuntu media using EFI should just do it; what does it do when rebooting?
[03:33] <Marku_> TiCPU: it says no bootable device
[03:33] <TiCPU> trf, you can try dd'ing the ISO directly on the USB if all else fail.
[03:34] <trf> what is dd'ing
[03:34] <TiCPU> Marku_, boot the Ubuntu media and try running efibootmgr and post the output somewhere
[03:34] <Marku_> Ubuntu booted from my usb fine
[03:34] <Marku_> I am in live version now how do i run efibootmgr sorry no clue
[03:34] <trf> I think the problem is with Unetbootin to correctly formatted the iso image to the USB
[03:34] <TiCPU> trf: you created the media from Linux or another OS?
[03:34] <trf> From linux
[03:35] <trf> TiCPU: I'm reformatting my 16.01 install to install 16.10
[03:35] <trf> *16.04 to 16.10
[03:35] <TiCPU> trf: Open the Disks utility from the menu, select your USB device, click the menu on the top right corner, select Restore from image et browse to your ISO.
[03:35] <Marku_> TiCPU: http://pastie.org/10967256
[03:35] <trf> I'm using xubuntu
[03:35] <trf> So I don't have the disk utility
[03:36] <trf> But I do have gparted (if that can be used for that purpose)
[03:36] <TiCPU> trf, gparted doesn't do that
[03:36] <trf> ok
[03:37] <Marku_> should i just delete all the partions and try and reinstall ubuntu?
[03:37] <TiCPU> Marku_, can you add  -v?
[03:37] <Marku_> sure
[03:37] <trf> Maybe I can install the utility you mentioned from xubuntu's software center
[03:37] <TiCPU> trf: it should be part of the standard ubuntu desktop
[03:37] <Marku_> TiCPU: http://pastie.org/10967258
[03:38] <trf> Xubuntu (the XFCE derivative) doesn't have that utility pre-installed
[03:38] <TiCPU> trf: in the ubuntu menu, under the application section, it is called Disks
[03:38] <trf> And now gnome software center is crashing
[03:38] <trf> Can I do this from the terminal?
[03:38] <TiCPU> trf: if you're fine with the CLI, you can use ddrescue <iso image> </dev/sdX> -f    /dev/sdX being your USB
[03:38] <trf> I'm not familiar with it
[03:38] <trf> But I can try
[03:39] <TiCPU> Marku_, the Linpus entry seems to propose the EFI to switch to MBR,  do you still use it?
[03:39] <Marku_> the linpus is the usb with ubuntu on it
[03:40] <Marku_> what i used to install it
[03:40] <TiCPU> trf: it is quite dangerous if you select the wrong disk; you can use gparted to make sure you have the right disk by looking at the path on the top right
[03:40] <trf> ok
[03:40] <trf> So what exactly does that command do? Format the drive and then apply the iso image?
[03:40] <Marku_> wait i think thats the usb lol idk
[03:41] <Marku_> I'm so confused
[03:41] <TiCPU> Marku_, oh I see; try this: efibootmgr -o 0002,0001,2001,2002,2003   to change the boot order
[03:42] <TiCPU> trf: it overwrites the whole device using the ISO
[03:42] <Marku_> so no linpus lite is ahead of ubuntu
[03:42] <TiCPU> trf: you'll need to apt install gddrescue
[03:42] <trf> What do I put in "iso image" the pathway to the file?
[03:42] <TiCPU> trf: exactly
[03:42] <Marku_> what is linpus lite TiCPU
[03:43] <trf> thanks
[03:43] <trf> will report back
[03:43] <TiCPU> Marku_, I don't know, I though it was your USB; it makes your PC want to boot an old style MBR
[03:43] <Marku_> linpus has the mbr on it so if that is the first one it should boot
[03:43] <TiCPU> Marku_, to use EFI you must have a GPT patition table
[03:43] <Marku_> Boot0002* ubuntu
[03:44] <Marku_> ok so i did that boot order command
[03:44] <Marku_> maybe it will work
[03:44] <TiCPU> Marku_, that should do it
[03:44] <TiCPU> the no bootable device probably comes from the MBR
[03:45] <Marku_> because the mbr was not booting first eh
[03:45] <Marku_> ok i will give it a try
[03:45] <trf> TiCPU do I include the "<>" in that command?
[03:45] <TiCPU> Marku_, the MBR was first in the boot order, it should not if you want to boot ubuntu
[03:45] <TiCPU> trf: nope
[03:45] <trf>   ok
[03:47] <trf> TiCPU: here's what I got: "ddrescue /home/user/downloads/image.iso dev/sdb1 -f
[03:47] <trf> Look good?
[03:48] <TiCPU> trf: remove the 1 at the end
[03:48] <markuu> TiCPU: still no booting device :(
[03:48] <TiCPU> we want to overwrite the whole USB
[03:48] <trf>  ok
[03:48] <TiCPU> markuu, same message?
[03:48] <trf> here goes nothing
[03:48] <markuu> yes sir
[03:49] <markuu> sadly
[03:49] <markuu> im back in live usb since this is my only computer
[03:49] <trf> "no such file in directory"
[03:49] <markuu> thank god for live usb lol
[03:49] <trf> what was I missing
[03:49] <TiCPU> markuu, yea, always useful.  Do you have multiple disks?
[03:49] <trf>  /home/user/downloads/image.iso
[03:50] <markuu> TiCPU: negative, I have one 1tb drive
[03:50] <TiCPU> trf: you are missing a / in dev/sdb
[03:50] <trf> oh thanks
[03:50] <TiCPU> markuu, can you confirm it is partionned using GPT and not msdos?
[03:51] <markuu> I had kubuntu on here before, it worked fine.. I wanted to switch back to ubuntu so i put it on a usb and installed it.
[03:51] <markuu> ms is gone
[03:51] <TiCPU> markuu, #fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:51] <TiCPU> Disklabel type: gpt
[03:51] <markuu> I had Windows 10 before kubuntu
[03:51] <TiCPU> ok. windows 10 is GPT so that should be OK
[03:52] <trf> still getting same error
[03:52] <TiCPU> trf: I think downloads should be Downloads
[03:52] <markuu> TiCPU: http://pastie.org/10967260
[03:52] <trf> didn't think it was case sensitive
[03:52] <TiCPU> you can tab the name in
[03:52] <markuu> it's D
[03:52] <Bashing-om> trf: "/home/user/downloads/image.iso" should that not be as /home/trf/Downloads/image.iso ? Where th user is "you" and the directoty is upercase 'D' .
[03:52] <markuu> Downloads :)
[03:53] <markuu> It's uppercase for me
[03:53] <trf> Ok upper-casing now
[03:53] <TiCPU> markuu, looks perfect
[03:53] <markuu> trf:  if you press Do tab it will auto fill
[03:53] <markuu> looks perfct but won't boot lol
[03:54] <trf> can't output file
[03:54] <trf> permission denied
[03:54] <trf> Sudo?
[03:54] <markuu> sudo
[03:54] <TiCPU> trf: yup
[03:54] <trf> ok
[03:54] <markuu> sudo comman
[03:55] <trf> seems to be working
[03:55] <TiCPU> trf: to overwrite a whole disk, you need super powers
[03:55] <markuu> TiCPU: should i change boot order in bios?
[03:55] <markuu> lol
[03:55] <trf> hah
[03:55] <markuu> sudo = super user do
[03:55] <markuu> I love linux, but this day has me sad lol
[03:55] <TiCPU> markuu, efibootmgr should show what the EFI setup show
[03:56] <trf> Can this utility write over with zeros?
[03:56] <TiCPU> trf: yes, source can be /dev/zero
[03:56] <trf> cool
[03:56] <markuu> efibootmgr still shows linpus as first
[03:56] <TiCPU> markuu, even the boot order which can be different from the OS order
[03:56] <trf> So I can do that to my primary drive from the live install usb?
[03:57] <TiCPU> trf, absolutely, that would wipe everything, securely;  if you want a fast wipe, wipefs should do
[03:57] <markuu> So, if the boot order and partions are fine why can't i boot lol am I screwed forever and need to buy windows? lol
[03:57] <cofffeebean>   ok someone  need some help here pls. ..
[03:57] <markuu> if you need help just ask, instead of yelling help
[03:57] <trf> Does wipefs need to be installed or is it a built-in command utility
[03:57] <TiCPU> wipefs is a built-in utility which overwrites signatures,  wipefs -a /dev/sda1 and then wipefs -a /dev/sda  would remove all signatures and make the disk look like new
[03:57] <markuu> do man wipefs
[03:58] <trf> cool
[03:58] <TiCPU> then run partprobe /dev/sda so that linux gets it
[03:58] <markuu> manual :)
[03:58] <markuu> who
[03:58] <cofffeebean>   ok  what is the command to check disc space in ubuntu ??..
[03:58] <TiCPU> cofffeebean, df
[03:58] <TiCPU> df -h    (for humans ;)
[03:58] <markuu> simple google search :P
[03:59] <trf> what is the purpose of "partprobe /dev/sda"
[03:59] <TiCPU> markuu, can you check if your EFI partition contains files?
[03:59] <markuu> how
[03:59] <TiCPU> trf: makes Linux understand that you removed all partitions from underneath
[03:59] <trf> thanks
[04:00] <trf> Alright, I'm off to do a fresh install
[04:00] <TiCPU> markuu, check if it is mounted first    grep sda1 /proc/mounts
[04:00] <markuu> good luck
[04:00] <trf> have a good one
[04:00] <trf> thanks
[04:00] <cofffeebean>  k  thanks - i did that  but the stuff it shows dont tell me anything i understand  ..
[04:00] <TiCPU> if it is mounted, go to the directory and check for a EFI folder
[04:00] <markuu> nothing happened
[04:00] <markuu> under /dev?
[04:01] <TiCPU> markuu, then you can mount it,   mkdir /mnt/sda1; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[04:01] <markuu> TiCPU: says only root can do that
[04:02] <TiCPU> since this is the EFI partition, that's right
[04:02] <TiCPU> you can sudo -i   first for this one
[04:02]  * markuu lays down rolls over and cries
[04:02] <TiCPU> then run       find /mnt/sda1           to get what's in there
[04:03] <wsj> I'm having apt-get update issues. it can't seem to connect. Something down or just me?
[04:03] <markuu> it's empty
[04:03] <markuu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1$
[04:03] <TiCPU> is it mounted now (the grep command)?
[04:04] <cofffeebean>   ohh no  i got listing of stuff  but not being used to linux & ubuntu  it looks dfferent from windows.., BUT i want to upgrade from 14.04lts to 16 lts & i did that the other night & after all done i had just one gig of drivespace left..
[04:04] <markuu> ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1$  does not give a response
[04:04] <markuu> grep sda1 /proc/mounts
[04:05] <TiCPU> wsj, http://isup.me/http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:05] <cofffeebean>   type that in terminal also ??..
[04:05] <TiCPU> markuu, then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1               that should mount it
[04:05] <wsj> @TiCPU, I checked around, and I can ping them just fine, but apt-get won't connect. googling led me to some ipv6 issues, but it's definitely just trying over ipv4
[04:05] <TiCPU> then cd /mnt/sda1  to switch there (yes you have to re-type it)
[04:06] <markuu> TiCPU: bash: cd: /sda1: No such file or directory
[04:07] <markuu> i got it it says EFI
[04:07] <markuu> inside it has boot and ubuntu TiCPU
[04:08] <markuu> TiCPU: ubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1/EFI$ ls boot  ubuntu
[04:09] <TiCPU> markuu, http://pastebin.com/ZzJbAKY4
[04:09] <markuu> what is that
[04:09] <TiCPU> just to show the content of the EFI folder
[04:09] <TiCPU> should contain grubx64.efi or shim64
[04:10] <markuu> I don't have that :(
[04:10] <TiCPU> so when you type find /mnt/sda1   you only have folders?
[04:11] <cofffeebean> HOW MUCH drivespace shud 16.04.1 lts take up ??..,  mines a 250gb drive ..
[04:11] <markuu> wait no they are there
[04:11] <markuu> TiCPU: http://pastebin.com/kWr2h8bD
[04:12] <TiCPU> BOOTX64.efi is Windows, don't know what are MokManager and fwupx64,  then Ubuntu is grub and shim
[04:13] <markuu> ok
[04:13] <markuu> so what should i do.
[04:13] <markuu> should i remake the EFI partition
[04:14] <TiCPU> I'd create a zzz folder in /mnt/sda1/EFI  to move the boot folder in and the MokManager/fw/fwupx stuff in
[04:14] <TiCPU> or just delete them
[04:14] <markuu> ok just delete what?
[04:15] <TiCPU> there are still chances that the EFI boot manager persist in using BOOTX64
[04:15] <TiCPU> /mnt/sda1/EFI/boot
[04:15] <markuu> so delete boot64
[04:15] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, can someone help me understand why Chrome is giving me connection not private errors when connecting to big sites?
[04:15] <TiCPU> /mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu/fwupx64.efi /mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu/fw /mnt/sda1/EFI/ubuntu/MokManager.efi
[04:15] <cluelessperson> No extensions are interfereing
[04:16] <TiCPU> cluelessperson, you may be connected to a bad wifi
[04:16] <TiCPU> cluelessperson, or your clock is wrong
[04:16] <Bashing-om> cofffeebean: How much is taken up is a reletive question , Depends on what you did . You may show us the partitioning ' sudo parted -l ' and we can advise better on what is .
[04:16] <cluelessperson> TiCPU, It's my personal wifi, it's confirmed
[04:16] <TiCPU> cluelessperson, check date&time
[04:16] <cluelessperson> TiCPU, I think ti's a chrome bug, it's saying Certificate Transparency required
[04:17] <markuu> TiCPU: can you pm what to do the chat notifs are too much ty
[04:17] <cluelessperson> Date and Time are fine
[04:17] <cofffeebean> Bashing-om,   PVT ??..
[04:18] <Bashing-om> cofffeebean: Best not .. peer reviews and education for all who observe .
[04:19] <benguitar> Anyone available to chat with me some about Ubuntu audio, I'm about 98% there with having my system configured but I am trying to resolve one last issue which I believe is related to an internal sample rate or clock mismatch somewhere.
[04:29] <cage_raphel> hello..
[04:29] <cage_raphel> need assistance with errors after running update
[04:29] <cage_raphel> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23515036/
[04:35] <c-pin> hoe the hell does shutter crash on upload
[04:35] <c-pin> i cant find anybody with the same issue
[04:36] <c-pin> i try to upload to imgur, i get errors on a jason bs
[04:36] <c-pin> if i upload to toilet, i just crash
[04:37] <c-pin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/shutter/+bug/1584111
[04:37] <c-pin> this is about right
[04:44] <cage_raphel> help with error during update pls!!
[04:44] <bivo> Anyone figure out how to get StreamTuner2 to actually play?
[04:45] <bivo> When I try to open a stream it opens Banshee, but nothing shows up in Banshee
[04:45] <zzero1> need some help with booting an efi stub without grub. I have an efi partition mounted in /boot and I followed these http://askubuntu.com/a/742154 instructions. I get a motherboard efi warning now that says the current bios settings do not fully support the boot device. Go to Advanced > CSM  to enable the boot device
[04:47] <zzero1> I am open to ideas
[04:51] <marku_> TiCPU: no bootable device... gonna cry now.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> marku_: didnt follow but did you disable secureboot?
[04:53] <marku_> its enabled right now, but it was enabled when I had kubuntu on here before
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> marku_: you dualboot?
[04:54] <marku_> not anymore, came with windows 10 then I removed it and have kubuntu now i installed ubuntu and it wont boot and TiCPU  has been helping me but nothing is working so far
[04:54] <marku_> i had Kubuntu*
[04:54] <marku_> been at this all day and its my only pc
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> marku_: if you singleboot ubuntu, please disable secureboot and fastboot
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> marku_: you might need a reinstall
[04:55] <marku_> i don't care about reinstalling i did it twice already lol
[04:56] <marku_> i disabled fastboot when i had windows
[05:00] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Vuvud is End_of_Life . But to answer your qust . compare cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list and tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and remove the duplicated entries .
[05:00] <Bashing-om> vivid*
[05:02] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: But I do believe that the vivid repository has now been turned away .
[05:02] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, thanks mate!! i wish i understood all that what u said.. i am fairly new to ubuntu.. how do i compare?
[05:03] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i am running ubuntu 15.04.. upgraded from 14.04 yesterday
[05:03] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Do not think that comparing the source list will in the end be any value as vivid is no longer supported. The repo no longer exist . Ya need to upgrade to a current release .
[05:04] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, awesome!!! how do i upgrade to current release?
[05:05] <Bashing-om> !eol | cage_raphel
[05:05] <Marku__> TiCPU: :(
[05:05] <Marku__> No bootable device hell
[05:06] <TiCPU> Marku__, welp; you've drained the idea fountain.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Marku__: ...disable secureboot?
[05:06] <Marku__> Time to buy windows, thanks for the help man appreciate it.
[05:06] <Marku__> lotuspsychje: no, id dint have to on kubuntu
[05:07] <Marku__> I hate windos but i need a pc for school
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Marku__: that doesnt mean its the right thing to do
[05:07] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: If ya want to fo that route ^ . it will be 14.10 -> EOL 15.04 -> EOL 15.10 -> 16.04 .. a long long hard road . nmuch easier to back up your personal files and do a clean install .
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Marku__: you said you need singleboot ubuntu, so disable secureboot
[05:08] <Marku__> ok
[05:08] <Marku__> i wil try it again
[05:08] <Marku__> brb again :P
[05:08] <zzero1> inside the efi setup there is a boot override option that boots any device available directly when I click it. When I add my entry with the efibootmgr I see a black screen and it returns to the same efi setup screen
[05:09] <zzero1> Am I to assume that it cannot find something to boot there ?
[05:11] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, is there a command i can run to upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 and then to 16.04?
[05:12] <marku_> secureboot is disabled still no bootable device is fount
[05:12] <cash> Hi Guys how do I blacklist an update in the apt package manager?  I dont wanna perform an update that shows as available, but i want the other packages
[05:12] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Not that easy . ya got to change your sources list ( after fixing) with each update .. spend all the time and bandwidth updating to the next release and repeat repeat repeat . The tutorial from the bot has the directions .
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> marku_: you need to reinstall, press F12 to boot your ubuntu usb
[05:13] <rocketbomb> hi
[05:13] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, thanks mate... sounds like a long rough route.. but i think its worth a try
[05:13] <marku_> lotuspsychje: the usb boots automatic, I guess i will try and reinstall after the third time lol
[05:14] <marku_> if this does not work, I will be off to the hell of windows world thanks ubuntu support
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> marku_: no bootable device, means its not automatic
[05:14] <marku_> No the usb boots when it is inserted
[05:14] <marku_> when the usb is not inserted is when nothing boots
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> marku_: if you cant install ubuntu, its not our lack...dont givce up too easy
[05:15] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Hey, your call and time .. and the effort is worth the while for the learning curve . If ya going to, we have to fix those duplicated entries first .
[05:15] <marku_> I'm not blaming anyone, I had kubuntu on here for a year
[05:15] <marku_> I had ubunu on my last machine
[05:15] <marku_>  I have been on here all day, and I simply thanked those who helped me
[05:15] <kostkon> cash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction_to_Holding_Packages
[05:16] <marku_> I have installed Ubuntu since 12.04
[05:16] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i just came across something online.. it says running update-manager -d will help me upgrade easily..  will this be worth a try??
[05:16] <marku_> well, see if reinstall works thanks TiCPU and others
[05:17] <TiCPU> marku_ good luck
[05:17] <TiCPU> cash, easy way is also to apt-mark hold <package>
[05:18] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: nope .. that -d is for (D)evelopment release . The path is from one release to next in line untill you reach a current release .
[05:18] <cash> TiCPU
[05:18] <cash> kostkon
[05:18] <kostkon> cage_raphel, you could have updated from 14.04 to 16.04 directly, now that has become more cumbersome
[05:18] <cash> I want to hold a driver update, and i think its 304.132-0ubuntu0
[05:19] <cash> but when i type sudo apt-mark hold 304.132-0ubuntu0 i get errors
[05:19] <cage_raphel> kostkon, how do we do that ??
[05:19] <TiCPU> cash: apt-mark hold <package>   not version
[05:19] <cash> in search it came up as xenial-updates,xenial-security 304.132-0ubuntu0.16.04.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 304.131-0ubuntu3]
[05:19] <kostkon> cash, what TiCPU said
[05:20] <TiCPU> cash in your case that is nvidia-304  something
[05:20] <cash> koston and TiCPU i understand the command, here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/6n477HT4.  Can you help me find out the package name?
[05:20] <kostkon> cage_raphel, if you are willing to attempt follow the instuctions
[05:20] <kostkon> !eolupgrades
[05:20] <TiCPU> cash: nvidia-304
[05:20] <cage_raphel> kostkon, sure
[05:20] <kostkon> it*
[05:20] <cash> thanks
[05:21] <cash> Nice!  TiCPU and kostkon thank you
[05:21] <crazyhorse18> how do i make a shortcut on the desktop to a terminal application?>
[05:21] <cash> See thats why I talk to the experts on the ubuntu chat
[05:21] <cash> :)
[05:21] <kostkon> cash, np
[05:22] <crazyhorse18> basically i want to open a terminal window, cd to a directory, run a command and keep the window open
[05:22] <glitchd> what would it take to be able to drag different open windows between 2 linux machines?
[05:22] <cash> kostkon but when i type sudo apt update this package shows up again :(
[05:23] <kostkon> cash, what does apt say about it?
[05:23] <TiCPU> cash it won't update
[05:23] <cash> it says 1 package can be updated
[05:23] <cash> :(
[05:23] <cash> so if i type sudo apt upgrade it wont happen since its held?
[05:23] <kostkon> cash, well just ignore that :P
[05:24] <kostkon> cash, fingers crossed yes
[05:24] <cash> Ahhh it worked!!!!
[05:24] <cash> I was scared
[05:24] <cash> thank you
[05:24] <kostkon> cash, job well done
[05:25] <cash> guys my computer is a relic and im a noob. its livin life on the edge between function and destruction
[05:25] <cash> Thanks Team
[05:25] <kostkon> cash, you are doing fine so far i reckon
[05:28] <venzen> glitchd: package synaptic, a network connection between the hosts and websearch how to configure
[05:28] <venzen> glitchd: sorry, no
[05:28] <cash> Hi guys
[05:28] <cash> thanks for the suppt
[05:28] <venzen> glitchd: i misread your q
[05:28] <glitchd> venzen, lol
[05:28] <glitchd> venzen, np
[05:29] <glitchd> venzen, im trying to figure it out
[05:29] <venzen> glitchd: also the package i was thinking of is called synergy (not synaptic)
[05:29] <glitchd> venzen, i already use synergy
[05:29] <glitchd> venzen, but i cant drag windows from one machine to the other
[05:29] <glitchd> venzen, but the clipboard does work between the 2 machines
[05:30] <venzen> glitchd: Xwindows perhaps? not exactly drag and drop but you can see the remote window locally
[05:30] <cash> back
[05:30] <cash> had to recreate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <glitchd> venzen, well the 2 machine are directly next to each other already, so seeing the machine is not really the goal here
[05:31] <glitchd> venzen, i alrady share a mouse/keyboard the 2 machines, my next goal is to be able to drag from one screen to the next
[05:33] <venzen> glitchd: i don't want to say 'never' but it seems a lot of effort (passing window info, state, contents) at the WM level...
[05:34] <venzen> glitchd: if you leave the monitor/screen out of reckoning for now, think about what it is you're passing: an OS window manager object
[05:36] <venzen> glitchd: so you're wanting to pass the window object (e.g. gtk) from one OS to another
[05:36] <piousminion> Hi, how do I.. basically "factory reset" mysql-server?
[05:36] <glitchd> venzen, yes, and each machine is rurnning ubuntu
[05:38] <venzen> assuming the OSses are identical, you can pass the object via network, then feed it to e.g. GTK, to rebuild it
[05:39] <glitchd> venzen, im trying to figure out how to do that
[05:40] <venzen> it should be possible but you'll have to learn about creating GTK windows: 1) what components to store, 2) rebuild a GTK object from those components, 3) pass across the network (python should allow for this)
[05:40] <venzen> so given the tasklist, your job is cut out for you: learn GTK and pyGTK! :)
[05:40] <glitchd> im more surpised something like thie doesnt exist already..
[05:40] <venzen> well, what is the practical application?
[05:41] <venzen> what usecase you thinking of?
[05:42] <glitchd> venzen, this of a group all working on a project, on person finds somethign and wants to show it to another memeber of the group that is on a different computer, instead of copying it to media, they could just drag it from one desktop to the other
[05:42] <glitchd> seamlessly
[05:44] <venzen> ok, your usecase makes sense: however, practically, it would make more sense to pass the image/content across the network and then pop-up a new native window on the destination host
[05:45] <glitchd> well that would achieve basically the same thign
[05:45] <glitchd> thing
[05:47] <venzen> yes, with less low level code, CPU resources, time and network load... not that those would be heavy for your usecase, but simply having an applet with options to "send to John", "send to Alice", etc and then a listener on each connected host that will parse JSON is easily achievable
[05:48] <venzen> "easily" being relative to your know-how, but the design described above seems the straightest path
[05:50] <glitchd> i just posted my question in #synergy
[05:51] <venzen> we're a bit off-topic here, but to conclude: you could pass a URL to webpage/image/etc as JSON to the destination host. Its listener receives the JSON and shows the URL in a new browser window if its a webpage, in ImageViewer, if its an image, etc. Actually, most URLs will display fine in a browser
[05:52] <glitchd> venzen, i appreciate you working on this with me, but i have no idea how to do any of what you just said
[05:55] <venzen> glitchd: np, but if you lack the know-how to do the above then coding it at the WM and window (eg GTK) level will be more difficult. Maybe a solution exists for your usecase, but it will be closer to the design i described than to your (logical) proposal of moving actual window objects around between hosts
[05:56] <glitchd> venzen, alrighty then, thx for the knowledge
[05:56] <venzen> glitchd: thubmsup
[06:15] <LinuxNovice> hello...
[06:16] <venzen> hi, go ahead
[06:17] <LinuxNovice> I needed some help in choosing a lightweight linux distro for my very old laptop.	I checked various distros. Just wanted some thoughts on which is better Lubuntu or LXLE?	Needed to know, in terms of performance is Lubuntu better than LXLE.
[06:18] <venzen> i use Lubuntu, but cannot comment on LXLE
[06:18] <venzen> never used it
[06:18] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[06:18] <LinuxNovice> It says it is based on Lubuntu.
[06:19] <venzen> Lubuntu has always done well by me - light on resources, reliable...
[06:19] <LinuxNovice> I too have used it. It is a great distro.
[06:20] <LinuxNovice> which one would you suggest 16.04 or 16.10?
[06:21] <LinuxNovice> and which other lightweigh distro would you suggest?
[06:21] <venzen> LinuxNovice: i would suggest Lubuntu 16.04 because its LTS - long-term support
[06:22] <LinuxNovice> ok
[06:22] <venzen> bear in mind that a lightweight distro ceases to be lightweight when you use heavy-duty apps...
[06:22] <venzen> what would you use your old laptop for mostly?
[06:24] <LinuxNovice> Mostly Libre Office, Some audio and video players like VLC
[06:24] <LinuxNovice> I need a good pdf software and probably wine also.
[06:25] <LinuxNovice> I have an old laptop of 2gb ram, 40 gb hdd, Intel Celeron M processor with 1.5 Ghz.
[06:26] <venzen> hmmm, LibreOffice is resource heavy - especially memory, Wine can be superheavy on resources, depending on what you run with it - it has to constantly translate between windows DLL and linux libraries
[06:26] <venzen> with that hardware you should be fine using Lubuntu
[06:27] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[06:28] <LinuxNovice> can I expect significant changes between 16.04 and 16.10. I mean, in performance, security and in any other aspect?
[06:28] <piousminion> Heavy apps are heavy, yeah, but you don't need a DE using up all the resources that would have been available to said heavy app.
[06:28] <LinuxNovice> I don't mind reinstalling the OS when the next release happens.
[06:30] <LinuxNovice> piousminion: I agree with you. So, which one would you suggest?
[06:30] <LinuxNovice> piousminion: Have you used LXLE?
[06:30] <piousminion> LinuxNovice: That depends on your experience. If you're noobish, go with the latest lubuntu lts. IF you're know what you're doing.... ArchLinux.
[06:31] <piousminion> I've not used LXDE. In fact, I've never heard of it until now.  That says a lot in itself.
[06:31] <piousminion> er, LXLE
[06:32] <LinuxNovice> piousminion: I'm a newbie to Linux. Just one month old here.
[06:32] <piousminion> LinuxNovice: Then I'd certainly recommend Lubuntu 16.04.
[06:33] <venzen> same
[06:33] <venzen> LinuxNovice: with older hardware you want a distro that has lots of experience dealing with the old drivers, via experience and a large userbase
[06:33] <LinuxNovice> piousminion: Why? what's the reason? as I said,  I don't mind reinstalling the OS with a newer release.
[06:34] <piousminion> I mean, 16.10 is newer, but the version differences are so small, you wouldn't notice any difference at all.
[06:34] <FireStriker> Hey I'm trying to install lubuntu and it complain about not being able to find a backlight controller than start to flash like mad at me
[06:34] <humble> Hello all. I am having a problem with a mouse i am trying to connect to my ubuntu with bluetooth.  Bluetooth finds it but when i press continue to automatic pin it doesnt pair. when i press continue without pin it connects but it doesnt pair.
[06:34] <humble> can someone help me pls ?
[06:35] <venzen> LinuxNovice: i don't know what the LXLE team's like or what their experience is, but with Lubuntu you're getting all the benefit from Debian (upstream) to Ubuntu and then to Lubuntu.
[06:36] <LinuxNovice> venzen: I can see that. I can expect my queries to be answered here. But, it seems LXLE community is somewhat small. Never got any reply on IRC there.
[06:37] <RatchetTheGamer> Hi how do I change grub so it's not uefi or something, I want to I install ubuntu
[06:37] <RatchetTheGamer> Uninstall
[06:37] <venzen> LinuxNovice: as piousminion says, the differences are small but as months become years you'll be glad you chose the LTS (16.04) because 16.10 support will fall away. If there is something in 16.10 you specifically need then ok choose it, but for what you describe 16.10 is a good choice
[06:38] <LinuxNovice> venzen: then, shall I choose 16.10?
[06:39] <LinuxNovice> when is the next LTS going to be released?
[06:39] <piousminion> LinuxNovice: That, and the vast majority of "Ubuntu" information you find online will apply to Lubuntu as well.  He meant 16.04  :P
[06:39] <FireStriker> If you want light weight and a bigger comintut go for xubuntu
[06:40] <piousminion> FireStriker: Given just how low his specs are, lubuntu is the better choice here.
[06:40] <FireStriker> Ok
[06:40] <piousminion> FireStriker: I'd prefer xubuntu too, but we're talking celeron here. :P
[06:41] <LinuxNovice> I read somewhere that in next release of Ubuntu, there is going to be significant difference. what is that?
[06:41] <venzen> LinuxNovice: my previous msg has an error - change 16.10 at the end for 16.04.    16.04 is the recommended LTS version
[06:42] <FireStriker> How old is the CPU?
[06:42] <LinuxNovice> and also, came across somewhere on the internet that Lubuntu will be adopting LXQT. What is that and what changes can we expect?
[06:43] <LinuxNovice> the laptop was bought in 2005, I think. It is Acer Travelmate 2420.
[06:43] <FireStriker> I also want to know what that means bc I'm installing ubuntu to the HP in front of me atm
[06:43] <FireStriker> Yea stick with lubuntu
[06:44] <FireStriker> Hi bashing-om
[06:45] <FireStriker> Oh he left lol
[06:45] <LinuxNovice> hello...
[06:46] <venzen> LinuxNovice: LXQt is a desktop environment based on the Qt windowing system. Previously (and still) many desktop apps are built with GTK (Gnome) windowing system...
[06:46] <Fujk> can you use the glob matching syntax to search inside files and not in filenames? for example matching lines containing "*foobar*" in file.txt ?
[06:46] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[06:46] <RatchetTheGamer>  Hi how do I change grub so it is skipped by the computer and boots into win 10 I want to Uninstall ubuntu (uefi)
[06:47] <venzen> Fujk: you can use grep for that: grep -ls 'myserachterm' ./
[06:47] <vegombrei> hello how do i connect my go pro with ubuntu
[06:47] <vegombrei> it doesnt recognise the hardware
[06:47] <humble> Hello all. I am having a problem with a mouse i am trying to connect to my ubuntu with bluetooth.  Bluetooth finds it but when i press continue to automatic pin it doesnt pair. when i press continue without pin it connects but it doesnt pair. can someone help me pls ?
[06:48] <venzen> Fujk: grep -ls 'mysearchterm' ./ will output files that contain 'mysearchterm'
[06:48] <Fujk> venzen: doesnt work with * and ?
[06:48] <Fujk> foo*bar
[06:49] <LinuxNovice> thanks a lot guys, for your inputs. I'll consider Lubuntu 16.04.
[06:50] <FireStriker> Hey I'm trying to install lubuntu and it complained about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like mad
[06:52] <venzen> Fujk: i just checked, if you remove the quote marks mysearchterm is interpreted as a regex, so you can use * and ? but according to regex rules not shell rules!
[06:52] <venzen> Fujk: e.g. grep -ls my*term ./
[06:55] <PrezTrump> ubuntu says "8 packages available" on the motd
[06:55] <PrezTrump> but no matter what, i can't update
[06:55] <PrezTrump> what's going on?
[06:56] <PrezTrump> when i actually do apt-get upgrade it says no packages available for update
[06:58] <hateball> PrezTrump: use apt full-upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:03] <RatchetTheGamer> How do I change grub so it is skipped by the computer and boots into win 10 I want to Uninstall ubuntu (uefi)
[07:05] <clairvoyant_spir> hmm
[07:08] <hateball> RatchetTheGamer: ##windows probably knows how to do that without breaking your windows install
[07:08] <RatchetTheGamer> How?
[07:08] <emit_time> Can anyone hear me
[07:08] <RatchetTheGamer> Also how would I go about uninstalling it
[07:09] <Flannel> emit_time: yes.
[07:09] <FireStriker> No I can't hear you emit_time but I can see your message
[07:09] <emit_time> Lol
[07:09] <emit_time> Thanks
[07:09] <vegombrei> hi is there a way to make my own vpn
[07:09] <vegombrei> mebbe using a raspberry pi
[07:10] <FireStriker> I think so but I don't know how to go about it
[07:10] <fn2> Yes.
[07:11] <hateball> !vpn
[07:11] <drex> hi i am using ubuntu 16.04 on asus r558uf.  touchpad worked only once but after reboot its not working
[07:12] <fn2> try usi g the touchpad disab
[07:12] <fn2> e key
[07:12] <RatchetTheGamer> hateball: what do you mean ?
[07:13] <drex> i have already tried booting with i8042.reset  but its not working. fn2: hardware key is on
[07:14] <RD-SAO_Fan> Hey does any one know if you can add the volume up/down sound to xubuntu. It's missing in xubuntu besides it being in ubuntu and lubuntu
[07:14] <fn2> drex: Before login try pressing it, I have seen a few laptops not work unless you press it before the login screen.
[07:14] <drex> fn2 : yes i already tried that
[07:16] <UltimateKarate> i need pix of a juicy vag
[07:16] <UltimateKarate> where do i go to download juicy cunt pics?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> rd-
[07:17] <cfhowlett> !ops | UltimateKarate
[07:17] <UltimateKarate> vag vag vag
[07:17] <cfhowlett> ban requested elky
[07:17] <cfhowlett> tyvm
[07:21] <FireStriker> Hey I'm trying to install lubuntu and it complained about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like Madars
[07:21] <FireStriker> Mad
[07:24] <RatchetTheGamer> How do i uninstall ubuntu on a uefi computer I have a dual boot of window 10
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | RatchetTheGamer
[07:27] <RatchetTheGamer> ? So how do I uninstall ubuntu?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> http://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on#143482
[07:30] <FireStriker> I'm trying to install Ubuntu/Lubuntu and it complain about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like mad. How do i fix this
[07:30] <RatchetTheGamer> Thanks
[07:31] <aot> do I need to put 2&> /dev/null in the end of a cron line like this service apache2 restart
[07:33] <RD-SAO_Fan> Hey does any one know if you can add the volume up/down sound to xubuntu. It's missing in xubuntu besides it being in ubuntu and lubuntu
[07:33] <cfhowlett> RD-SAO_Fan, best ask #xubuntu and #xfce
[07:33] <RD-SAO_Fan> Ok thanks
[07:35] <FireStriker> Hey cfhowlett do you know what the problem is?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> nope.  thus my silence.  :)
[07:36] <FireStriker> K
[07:36] <FireStriker> Man this is doing my head in
[07:37] <FireStriker> The laptop it's self just did my head into. Stupid thing there's no explanation for what's it doing on windows alone
[07:43] <karthyk> Is apt-get open source
[07:43] <karthyk> Like can I look at its code
[07:44] <cfhowlett> of course, karthyk but note that apt has been deprecated.  apt is the new deal
[07:46] <hhee> guys, which software ubuntu has to simple todo with time notify?
[08:10] <borw3> I am using ubuntu-mate, but can't set system wide proxy
[08:10] <borw3> can anyone assist me please?
[08:11] <enyc> borw3: i'm not 100% such a thing exists per-se .. but ...
[08:11] <borw3> but...? I set the proxy settings in network proxy, but terminal apt-get is not using it
[08:12] <enyc> borw3: aaaah... was just lookingc this up...
[08:12] <borw3> enyc: you have same problem?
[08:12] <enyc> borw3: ok.  apt CAN be set with a separate config entry in  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/something ....  however...  environment variables may be sufficient
[08:13] <enyc> borw3:  system-wide   http_proxy=http://proxy.server:port/    and   https_proxy=   and  ftp_proxy=   similarly...
[08:13] <RD-SAO_Fan> cfhowlett: they don't know
[08:13] <borw3> enyc: I did something like this, but doesn't seem to take effect
[08:14] <RD-SAO_Fan> Would it be part of the de?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> RD-SAO_Fan, #xfce is the DE
[08:15] <enyc> borw3: debian  used to respond to an  /etc/environment   file  for systemwide ...
[08:15] <borw3> enyc: I did that too, but it doesn't seem to work in mate.
[08:15] <borw3> ubuntu-mate
[08:15] <enyc> borw3: well... check in roots' terminal.. do   "sudo -s" to become root, then   echo $http_proxy    ...
[08:16] <RD-SAO_Fan> Ik I'm talking about the volume sound part of ubuntu should that be part of the de so that if I load unity it should be there?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> RD-SAO_Fan, try it and see
[08:17] <borw3> enyc: It shows me that I am using the proxy, but can't apt-get
[08:17] <RD-SAO_Fan> Ok
[08:17] <enyc> borw3: ok in which case ts' geting to that point.....
[08:17] <enyc> borw3: i was going to say that   sudo  can complicate maters as per   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#sudo_caveat
[08:18] <enyc> borw3: you may do best to  sort out  an  apt.conf.d   setting therefore
[08:18] <ra21vi> on dell 7559 with 16.10, it freezes when i resume from suspend. Found on SO, that turning PWR Mgmt off for wifi will fix it. how can i turn off wifi per mgmt off ?
[08:20] <glitchd> ra21vi, what is "SO"
[08:21] <ra21vi> glitchd, stackOverflow site
[08:21] <glitchd> oh
[08:21] <glitchd> ra21vi, your computer freezes on resume from suspend if wifi is enabled?
[08:22] <ra21vi> glitchd, i have not tested it after disabling wifi.. but sometimes it freezes and sometimes it works
[08:23] <ra21vi> glitchd, my wifi is always on
[08:23] <glitchd> then how do you know its related to wifi?
[08:23] <glitchd> oh
[08:23] <glitchd> you found a related article on SO
[08:23] <glitchd> ok
[08:24] <ra21vi> yup
[08:25] <glitchd> well try it, disable wifi then suspend
[08:26] <borw3> enyc: Wow, it started picking, I don't know why, but thank you.
[08:26] <glitchd> see if it comes back up or freezes
[08:28] <ra21vi> glitchd, that will take a lot of time. Since I have not faced this issue in short suspend yet.. means if I suspend for 10-15 mins, i remember it works.. but if I suspend and sleep, comeback after few hours, it may or maynot work
[08:28] <ra21vi> do you want me to suspend and go on sleep
[08:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> h
[08:29] <SebthreeBQM10HD> i
[08:30] <ra21vi> anyone here to help me with my suspend issue.. i keep losing work
[08:34] <ducasse> ra21vi: try 'sudo iw dev <devname> set power_save off'
[08:35] <PrezTrump> d
[08:39] <ra21vi> ducasse, that I will have to do everytime i loggin? or after resume?
[08:40] <ducasse> ra21vi: before suspending
[08:40] <ra21vi> ducasse, is there anyway to add in some config and not to do manually?
[08:42] <glitchd> ra21vi, you can set that command to a hotkey
[08:43] <ra21vi> glitchd, I will have to press hotkey manually ...
[08:43] <ducasse> ra21vi: find out if it has any effect first
[08:43] <ra21vi> ducasse, ok
[08:48] <glitchd> gotta go!
[08:49] <el_bamba> Hi all! Someone know if i can use letsencrypt with Squid https proxy (with exception of end2end enc. of course)?
[08:50] <ra21vi> ducasse, that didn't work, for first time i saw a console error message.. earlier only froze mouse pointer was shown
[08:50] <ra21vi> error is - NVRM - GPU has fallen off the bus
[08:50] <ra21vi> stupid driver is not taking care of bumps... and things are falling off the bus
[08:53] <JBzh> Good morning. I'm stuck on my Ubuntu14.04 workstation since yesterday and can't find why: with virt-manager I included my network interface in a bridge, it didn't work well. Now I have no network at all. Can someone help me please ? I'm searching since..
[08:54] <JBzh> I removed br0, and I can't restart networking service without rebooting: Job failed while stopping
[08:57] <sijo> hi
[09:03] <imrg> Hi guys
[09:05] <imrg> I'm stuck in a login loop, behing unable to connect with any user at once logged in, it goes back to login screen. Thankfully I can log in with ssh from another pc. Any idea ?
[09:08] <indistylo> Kindly help to resolve this python-mysql-connector error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516018/
[09:15] <ra21vi> ducasse, that didn't work.. even after applying pm off for wifi, my laptop freezes on resume from suspend
[09:15] <Darko17> Hi, peeps!
[09:16] <ducasse> indistylo: as i asked yesterday - why not use the repo package? we can't support things you install with pip.
[09:19] <indistylo> ducasse, sorry I missed yesterd, can you elaborate more, I did not get what you said
[09:20] <ducasse> indistylo: you are installing with pip, but there is a package in the official repos.
[09:21] <rxsski> Anyone have experience setting up multiple local dev sites with xampp/lampp? can't seem to get it to work with virtualhosts'
[09:22] <indistylo> ducasse, apt-cache search mysql-connector-python , it does not show any package
[09:22] <trijntje_> Ubuntu is using 26GB of RAM on my system, but when I look in the system monitor there is no process that uses that much. How can I figure out what is using that RAM?
[09:22] <whoami_> hello , can help me , i want to install gambas3 on my notebook linux lubuntu but still error's maybye wrong repository any one can tell me about repository for gambass3
[09:22] <Myris> rxsski what is the problem exactly?
[09:22] <ducasse> indistylo: for python3 it is python3-mysql-connector iirc
[09:22] <rxsski> Trying to set it up to where I can have multiple 'sites' I can dev on a local machine w/ ubuntu
[09:23] <rxsski> ex. localhost2, localhost3, where each points to diff directory, so i can work onmultiple sites
[09:23] <rxsski> cant get lampp/apache to get virtual hosts to work
[09:25] <brotherBox> hi guys. im using the GUI installer on an UEFI system and i want to use my ESP partition as /boot, but the interface wont let me. it seems to be common practice though. is there a way to use ESP as /boot?
[09:25] <rxsski> having just one site worked (i.e. localhost), but I've tried to set up a few virtual host directives, and it seems to not want to work
[09:26] <rxsski> UEFI and linux...oh boy have fun
[09:26] <ducasse> indistylo: python3-mysql.connector, sorry
[09:27] <brotherBox> rxsski: its not that bad
[09:27] <manlin> Hi i want to host a ppa on my mirror server so that all LAN hosts can install from my mirror ppa. how to go about doing this?
[09:28] <TomyWork> rxsski how did you get the idea that that would be problematic? every computer and their dog uses uefi these days. there is just no way around it, so of course linux works with it, and well
[09:30] <brotherBox> yeab thats my experience as well
[09:31] <imrg> so anyone... fluent with logging loop ?
[09:31] <trijntje_> Ubuntu is using way too much memory, how can I figure out where it is going?
[09:32] <imrg> I've reinstalled ubuntu twice, it's always getting stuck in a loging loop after a couple of reboot
[09:32] <brotherBox> what do you mean logging loop?
[09:32] <brotherBox> trijntje_: why do you think its using too much memory?
[09:33] <imrg> login in with any user, it loads a bit then back to logging screen
[09:33] <brotherBox> logging or login?
[09:33] <trijntje_> brotherBox: It's using 26GB, which is quite a lot in my opinion ;)
[09:33] <imrg> login, sorry
[09:33] <brotherBox> imrg: are you sure youre entering the right credentials? sorry if that question sounds stupid
[09:34] <brotherBox> trijntje_: you can try to see top/htop to see what processes take up the most memory, but linux has a very forward memory allocating strategy
[09:34] <nikre> i have many zip rar tar.gz files in one folder. i want each compressed file extract to a folder preserving its name like name.format output to name folder. is there an easy way to do this on ubuntu?
[09:34] <imrg> I'm adamant about any one the usual case : good login, happens with all users, using ssh from another station work, .Xauthority or any other file belong to user:user with proper rights, ...
[09:35] <brotherBox> you may want to see the .profile or .bashrc file
[09:35] <imrg> they're clean of anything
[09:35] <brotherBox> did you check if anything is written to /var/log/syslog
[09:36] <imrg> that's a fresh install, I had zsh installed but created another user with default /bin/bash, same issue
[09:36] <imrg> there's a pam_kwallet.so issue that I fixed
[09:36] <trijntje_> brotherBox: top shows 2 processes that use 1.5 and 1.2GB each, and after that its just 200MB for firefox, and the usual system process like compiz, xorg etc
[09:36] <imrg> another "lightdm[1056]: Failed to open CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files", no real idea about this
[09:37] <imrg> (in journalctl, not syslog)
[09:37] <brotherBox> yeah im not used to using systemd facilities lol
[09:37] <brotherBox> trijntje_: are those processes system processes or user processes?
[09:38] <brotherBox> imrg: that sounds really strange, maybe try bash instead of zsh but other than that im out of ideas tbh
[09:39] <imrg> brotherBox: I tried
[09:39] <trijntje_> brotherBox: the top two processes are user processes, two analysis programs I'm running. They run for a long time, so I can't just kill them or reboot the pc
[09:39] <imrg> I also tried nuking nvidia's driver in case (inspiron 7559)
[09:40] <brotherBox> imrg: does that happen on a 100% vanilla as well?
[09:40] <imrg> trijntje : free -h ?
[09:40] <imrg> brotherBox: can't really tell, gotta work to do, I don't wait for it to crash before starting installing my workstation :-/
[09:42] <imrg> trijntje: I guess all your memory is used as file caching, not much to worry about. Some tools are a bit missleading about this, try htop or glances from a term
[09:42] <brotherBox> trijntje_: so, uh, it may be a problem with your analysis program...also what imrg says
[09:43] <imrg> well, I'm gonna nuke this install again and go for another flavor, linux mint
[09:43] <trijntje_> imrg, brotherBox: I dont think its chache http://pastebin.com/Kzv9sSUd
[09:44] <brotherBox> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[09:45] <imrg> indeed
[09:45] <trijntje_> brotherBox: thats not it, when you look at the output from free -h. There is only 5GB in buffers/cache
[09:51] <trijntje_> imrg, brotherBox: free -h shows I have only 12GB available, out of 39GB total. So that means that the rest of the RAM is used by programs, not buffers cache. Right?
[09:51] <imrg> y
[09:52] <trijntje_> imrg: so, how can I find out where the other 25GB went? If I look in top, its not being used by any process
[09:52] <brotherBox> as it says on the side, it may be disk caching
[09:53] <trijntje_> brotherBox: not its not, the 'available' column shows that
[09:53] <imrg> Otherwise get your showel and dig in the processes. Stuff like http://superuser.com/questions/398862/linux-find-out-what-process-is-using-all-the-ram#398870
[10:00] <Mathis> hey
[10:00] <Mathis> got a question about xscreensaver... to avoid accidentially hitting a button on screen, how do you disable that xscreensaver passes through the mouse click onto the applications downunder?
[10:00] <trijntje_> imrg: I'll try asking in #linux, ps just shows the same info as top, eg 2 processes that use 1.5GB each, and after that only a few 100MB ones (firefox etc), and then even smaller ones. Nowhere for 20GB to hide
[10:15] <rohit_> join ##C++-general
[10:17] <LinuxNovice> hi, what is difference between LXDE and LXQT? Which one is faster and more suitable for old laptops?
[10:21] <radnaksizm> hello
[10:23] <LinuxNovice> hi..
[10:24] <Prakash_> hey I want to use fingerprint device morpho MSO 1300 E2 in ubuntu? I am not able to find any driver for it.
[10:25] <LinuxNovice> I am totally new to Linux. Don't have any idea what you are telling.
[10:25] <radnaksizm> is this like mirc?
[10:26] <Myris> mirc is a tool to use irc :P
[10:26] <radnaksizm> is this a tool like mirc?
[10:27] <imrg> LinuxNovice: no idea, official Lubuntu is LXDE, adviced for old stuff : https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[10:28] <LinuxNovice> ok. LXLE is not an officially recognized distro?
[10:30] <imrg> never heard of LXLE or LXQT. There's LXDE and XFCE
[10:32] <trijntje_> imrg, brotherBox: I'll swallow my pride and reboot the PC, since I have no idea where the RAM went ;) Thanks for your help
[10:45] <m1dnight_> Is there a tool that allows me to assign time slots to users on a server? I.e., that user can login from time x to y, etc?
[10:45] <m1dnight_> The goal is to schedule a benchmarking server over several users so that they can use disjoint timeslots.
[10:51] <hateball> m1dnight_: gui or ssh ?
[10:53] <hateball> m1dnight_: anyhow, there is /etc/security/time.conf, but it may not be super admin-friendly depending on amount of users etc
[11:01] <m1dnight_> well, I'd prefer a GUI. Writing some php app to make it easier would help. But I'm looking for a good basis.
[11:01] <m1dnight_> I;'ll give that a look. Thanks.
[11:01] <m1dnight_> (Oh, SSH login, yes)
[11:01] <SAO-Fan-RD> I'm doing an advance install of ubuntu what do I want my partitions to be?
[11:02] <m1dnight_> We don't know what you want, I guess.
[11:03] <RainbowDash-SAO_> It's all fiting into a 128gb ssd
[11:03] <nikre> how can i have a shell script run once for each matching file of asterisk symbol?
[11:04] <RainbowDash-SAO_> I want to know how to set up the swap and other partions that is needed
[11:05] <nikre> you can skip the swap partition on an ssd
[11:05] <nikre> iirc
[11:05] <nikre> just have a single / partition
[11:05] <badsector_> Hi. how can ssh via one machine to other but I need to pass key
[11:06] <cripcate> Hey guys, more of a linux than an ubuntu question: If I want to synchronize the contentes of a folder with another folder, (say Dropbox and owncloud folders) is it enough to symlink the two?
[11:06] <RainbowDash-SAO_> My mestake my friend 128gb partition of a hdd, don't have the ssd yet lol, though it was installed lol
[11:07] <Zen> cripcate: Thats hardly syncronising, you only have 1 copy of the data
[11:07] <RainbowDash-SAO_> Um autocorrect go home your drunk
[11:07] <badsector_> I tried ssh -i key.pem user@remote_1_machine -L 1010:user@remote2:22
[11:07] <RainbowDash-SAO_> I have a 128gb partition
[11:07] <Zen> If thats fine and you don't care, sure symlink, but if its for a backup purpose or similar, not good
[11:07] <RainbowDash-SAO_> HDD, would i need swap?
[11:08] <badsector_> then ssh -l user -i key.pem -p 1010 localhost
[11:08] <badsector_> but getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[11:08] <cripcate> Zen, okay, how would i synchronize the content? I have my documents in dropbox, but I'd like to make a backup in owncloud automatically
[11:09] <Zen> cripcate: rsync
[11:09] <badsector_> I add AllowTCP Forwarding yes
[11:09] <cripcate> Zen, tyty
[11:09] <badsector_> any ideas what I missed
[11:13] <RatchetTheGamer> I have a computer which I'm doing an advance install of xubuntu on. It's going on to a 128gb hdd. How would I set up the partitions
[11:30] <RatchetTheGamer> 22:13 RatchetTheGamer I have a computer which I'm doing an advance install of xubuntu on. It's going on to a 128gb partition. How would I set up the partitions
[11:32] <cripcate> Zen, should i run rsync as a cronjob then?
[11:32] <mcphail> RatchetTheGamer: any reason not to accept the defaults? For most people, an optional swap partition, EFI partition if needed and then the rest as / is ideal
[11:32] <Zen> If you want it to run periodically then yes
[11:33] <cripcate> Zen, yeah, that would be good. The optimum would be to trigger rsync each time something inside either folder is updated, but i guess you would need a script for that
[11:34] <cripcate> Zen, once a day or so is probably enough for backup purposes
[11:34] <Zen> Theres also a limit to how many folders you can watch anyway
[11:34] <Zen> cripcate: should be fine
[11:37] <RatchetTheGamer> I have a partition which I would like to keep on this hard drive
[11:37] <whothehellami> hi, I am trying to start an opencl program via ssh -X and I want to see the GUI locally but I get an error "X Error of failed request:  BadValue". can you help me?
[11:38] <whothehellami> it is working if I start the program directly on the server
[11:39] <LeeArvin> join #ubuntu
[11:39] <LeeArvin> ls
[11:39] <LeeArvin> hi
[11:39] <LeeArvin> join ubuntu
[11:39] <LeeArvin> hi
[11:39] <RatchetTheGamer> mcphail: I have a partition which I would like to keep on this hard drive, I just want to know how to set up the partition
[11:39] <LeeArvin> I am a newcomer
[11:40] <LeeArvin> how to setup depend on what you want
[11:40] <LeeArvin> c u
[11:40] <LeeArvin> ecit
[11:41] <LeeArvin> exit
[11:41] <LeeArvin> quit()
[11:41] <Zen> o.o
[11:41] <LeeArvin> and how quit
[11:41] <Zen> /quit
[11:41] <RatchetTheGamer> Lol
[11:42] <RatchetTheGamer> Well we all were like that at one stage
[11:42] <Zen> nah, I just pkill the process instead
[11:42] <Zen> /s
[11:43] <prtg02> hi all :)
[11:44] <md_> hello
[11:45] <Guest97842> when i prime select intel, i cannot login.. any workaround? the screen freeze at console
[11:45] <prtg02> I am thinking about adding a single box to my network, that will act as VPN client for the whole network. I sure can use ubuntu, but would that be the easiest way? would it be less or more secure or easier to use a smaller linux distro than ubuntu?
[11:54] <koroso> hey all i'm on lubuntu and i have download a file .tar.gz ! How can i install it from terminale plz
[11:54] <koroso> what is the command
[11:54] <koroso> ;)
[11:54] <koroso> when i write : sudo alien -k it doesnt work
[11:56] <discopatrick> what considerations would i need to make if i wanted to upgrade apt packages while other software (e.g. web server, db server) was running on the machine?
[11:57] <discopatrick> assuming that, at some point, the web/db server software will be upgraded
[11:58] <koroso> ok i resolved it : unzip package and lunch install ;)
[12:03] <someone235> HI, I want to change my home partition size, but for some reason it has minimum size. Someone knows how to fix it?
[12:07] <ra21vi> imrg, i just got into login loop, after switching graphics driver
[12:08] <ra21vi> ubuntu on laptop and desk is PITA... and no one have idea ;(
[12:08] <vlt> someone235: What did you do, what did you expect to happen and what happened instead?
[12:10] <someone235> vlt, I want to reduce the size from 82 GB to 72 GB (via gparted). There are 15GB of unused space, but the minimum size is 82 GB
[12:12] <cfhowlett> someone235, are you still booted in that ubuntu you are trying to partition??
[12:12] <someone235> cfhowlett, yes
[12:13] <vlt> someone235: To be able to reduce a partition with a file system on it, you first have to reduce the size of the file system. I don’t know gparted well enough to say if it would do also that for you.
[12:13] <cfhowlett> someone235, nope.  you cannot repartition a live system.  boot an ubuntu CD, start gparted and
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:15] <someone235> cfhowlett, is there a way without live cd?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> someone235, repart'ing a hot system is technically possible with some force but you will almost certainly break things.
[12:18] <peyam> hi
[12:18] <peyam> I use the dictionary in xfce. I wonder if I could add swedish dictionary. but I think I need a dictionary server or somthing
[12:18] <peyam> do you know a good list of those
[12:18] <cfhowlett> peyam, do you have swedish language support installed?
[12:19] <peyam> what do you mean? my xubuntu is in english
[12:19] <peyam> but it should have swedish support
[12:19] <cfhowlett> peyam, install the swedish language on your ubuntu
[12:19] <peyam> why? I dont want it
[12:20] <cfhowlett> peyam, the xfce dictionary uses your base language.  no swedish language, no xfce dictionary support
[12:20] <peyam> you could add a webserver too
[12:21] <cfhowlett> peyam, see Web-Based Dictionaries  http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict
[12:22] <peyam> thanks
[12:22] <cfhowlett> happy2help! peyam
[12:24] <whothehellami> Hello, I am trying to start a gui program (opencl) remotely but I want to display the gui locally without success. I can see the xclock locally for example.
[12:25] <whothehellami> I connect to the server with ssh -X. sshd_config on the server has X11Forwarding yes
[12:26] <whothehellami> any suggestions how I can display the programs graphical output locally?
[12:27] <peyam> didnt work cfhowlett
[12:27] <peyam> I need a dictionary server with a dic protocoll
[12:27] <cfhowlett> sorry, can't help more, peyam
[12:27] <peyam> kiram tosh pas
[12:28] <RD-SAO_FAN> I uninstall ubuntu on my uefi laptop and I can't boot into windows
[12:28] <hateball> whothehellami: maybe opencl has a startup script that exports display to the local host instead of xforwarding
[12:28] <cfhowlett> RD-SAO_FAN, use windows tools to fix windows
[12:28] <RD-SAO_FAN> Windows 8 btw
[12:30] <whothehellami> hateball, do you know how I can check this?
[12:30] <geirha> RD-SAO_FAN: By uninstall you mean you removed the partitions containing Ubuntu, along with the partition containing the configuration of the boot loader?
[12:30] <peyam> cfhowlett, just to needed to refresh the current list and SWEDISH-English just appeared
[12:30] <peyam> :d
[12:31] <cfhowlett> peyam, on your xfce dictionary?
[12:32] <RD-SAO_FAN>  
[12:32] <RD-SAO_FAN> geirha: yea
[12:34] <wisnu> hello thank ...
[12:40] <RD-SAO_FAN> geirha: cfhowlett what do I do?
[12:40] <RD-SAO_FAN> I have the efi partition but the ubuntu partition have been deleted
[12:41] <cfhowlett> RD-SAO_FAN, already told you, to fix a WINDOWS problem use windows tools.  ask ##windows or use the windows support forums.  you *might* be able to fix this by booting your windows cd
[12:42] <RD-SAO_FAN> K thanks
[12:42] <EriC^^> RD-SAO_FAN: what's the problem?
[12:42] <EriC^^> RD-SAO_FAN: can you repeat your issue?
[12:42] <_cpo_> hi
[12:44] <_cpo_> are there any significant differences to install ubuntu 16.10 to a macbook air ? or is the same: boot from a usb device and go? thanks.:-)
[12:44] <RainbowDash-SAOF> I uninstall ubuntu now I can't boot win 8 need to fix the uefi thing to boot it, taking cfhowlett's advice and seeing if ##windows can help
[12:44] <cfhowlett> RainbowDash-SAOF, on windows 7, "fix windows" was a boot option.  not sure what's in play on win8
[12:45] <EriC^^> RainbowDash-SAOF: do you have a live usb?
[12:45] <EriC^^> of ubuntu?
[12:45] <RainbowDash-SAOF> Yea
[12:45] <cfhowlett> _cpo_, should be the same process.
[12:45] <EriC^^> RainbowDash-SAOF: boot it, and type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[12:46] <EriC^^> then type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:46] <RainbowDash-SAOF> K
[12:46] <EriC^^> and paste the link it gives you here
[12:46] <_cpo_> cfhowlett,  i don't have to install rEFInd or something that?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> _cpo_, dual booting?  yeah.
[12:47] <_cpo_> cfhowlett,  and pure ubuntu 16.10 ( the entire harddisk)?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !mac | _cpo_,
[12:47] <_cpo_> cfhowlett,  :-)
[12:47] <cfhowlett> _cpo_, I decided to skip all that though.  I have ubuntu on my mac air + virtualbox
[12:48] <cfhowlett> OSX + vbox + ubuntu
[12:48] <EriC^^> _cpo_: i think you'd still need refind, there's a way without it that involves using some tools to "bless" the ubuntu efi files
[12:48] <boxrick1> Is there any way of saying a device belongs to a bridge rather than a bridge owns these devices? Similar to what you can do with a bond and bond_master
[12:49] <ca-on-adam> Hi, I haven't gotten any answers to https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343758, is there anybody here who might know what is wrong with my openssh-server?
[12:49] <_cpo_> ubottu: thanks, i'm looking.
[12:49] <_cpo_> cfhowlett: great, thanks. .:-)
[12:51] <RainbowDash-SAOF> Ok I'm in EriC^^
[12:51] <whothehellami> I want to start a program on a server and I want to display graphical output on my local machine. I connect to the server wiht ssh -X. On the server X11Forwarding is set to yes. I get an error "X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)". I've also tried to set DISPLAY var on the server to localIP:0 but then I get an error "freeglut (program) failed to open display localIP:0"
[12:51] <EriC^^> RainbowDash-SAOF: ok run the commands above
[12:52] <EriC^^> RainbowDash-SAOF: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[12:52] <EriC^^> sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:53] <whothehellami> EriC^^, afaik you help people a lot. Do you know how I could solve this problem?
[12:54] <EriC^^> whothehellami: i dont know much about X11 forwarding
[12:54] <EriC^^> i'll give it a shot
[12:54] <FireStriker> Hi EriC^^
[12:54] <EriC^^> hi FireStriker
[12:54] <FireStriker> RainbowDash you have one hell of a good guy helping you, he knows his stuff about uefi help me out
[12:55] <EriC^^> whothehellami: i've tried it once before, let me get my other laptop and see if it'll work
[12:55] <RainbowDash-SAOF> Got an error
[12:56] <EriC^^> RainbowDash-SAOF: paste it
[12:56] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <EriC^^> FireStriker: thank you :)
[12:57] <whothehellami> EriC^^, ty. I appreciate that. mby I should mention that I can see the output of xclock, xterm
[12:58] <RainbowDash-SAOF> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516709/
[12:58] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: do you have internet connection in the live usb?
[12:59] <RainbowDashy> Yep oh hang on I haven't activated it lol
[13:00] <ra21vi> is there any way to use Intel Gfx and shutoff nvidia. When i prime-select nvidia, i cannot boot into, it freezes
[13:01] <RainbowDashy> No I don't actually EriC^^ no wifi for some reason
[13:01] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: no problem, type sudo efibootmgr -v
[13:01] <RainbowDashy> Wifi drivers must be bugged
[13:02] <EriC^^> and look at the Boot order line
[13:02] <EriC^^> then look at the bottom and see which one it is that starts first
[13:02] <RainbowDashy> Ok
[13:03] <RainbowDashy> EriC^^:  http://i.imgur.com/Pv0PHeO.jpg
[13:04] <EriC^^> whothehellami: which program is causing the error? google suggests it's related to graphics driver missing files and stuff
[13:04] <EriC^^> is it steam?
[13:05] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: thanks
[13:05] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, windows is first before ubuntu in the boot order, that means the efi file of windows might be switched with ubuntu's
[13:06] <EriC^^> did you ever use boot-repair?
[13:06] <RainbowDashy> Nope
[13:06] <EriC^^> what happens exactly when you boot right now?
[13:06] <RainbowDashy> Grub pops up with a simple bash prompt
[13:07] <EriC^^> ok, uefi mode is selected?
[13:07] <RainbowDashy> Yep
[13:07] <EriC^^> ok
[13:07] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l
[13:07] <EriC^^> and look for the line that says "efi partition"
[13:08] <whothehellami> EriC^^, it is an opencl simulation program (https://github.com/openworm/sibernetic). The program is working if I start it directly on the server (it has a display) so this can still be an issue related to the graphics driver?
[13:08] <RainbowDashy> Yep found it
[13:09] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, look at the first number in the line and the disk name above
[13:09] <EriC^^> if it's sda and the number is 1 then the partition is /dev/sda1
[13:10] <RainbowDashy> So 2 and /dev/sda
[13:10] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[13:11] <RainbowDashy> The efi partition is no 2 that is current right?
[13:13] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: not sure what you mean
[13:13] <guest-U6KMrd> guys the plumber is here can someone come and talk to him,,,some one that knows better whats going on
[13:13] <RainbowDashy> Nvm
[13:13] <guest-U6KMrd> andi may be if you are around
[13:13] <RainbowDashy> Mounted it EriC^^
[13:15] <EriC^^> whothehellami: not finding a lot of material about it
[13:16] <EriC^^> you can use vnc as a last resort fwiw
[13:16] <whothehellami> EriC^^, ok. ty for your help
[13:16] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, type ls -l /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[13:17] <RainbowDashy> Ok
[13:18] <RainbowDashy> done
[13:18] <nlern> Hello all, I've Ubuntu 16.04 desktop in which while running firefox (and possibly other apps), I cannot view certain characters (shown as square box) in titlebar unless minimized.  Can anyone tell what to do?
[13:18] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: what is the size of the file?
[13:18] <thebigj> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 16.04. I have both VGA and HDMI ports in my laptop. I am trying to configure two separate monitors on them , but I am unable to do that. This is my output of http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516754/ and this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23516757/ defins my hardware configuration from `lshw` command.
[13:19] <RainbowDashy> ?
[13:19] <thebigj> Can anyone help how it is possible?
[13:19] <EriC^^> whothehellami: this seems unlikely since xclock is working but try /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client modifying ForwardX11 to yes
[13:19] <nlern> Sorry, the characters are shown corretly only after maximizing window.
[13:19] <_cpo_> cfhowlett,  ok for a dell user, i make a usbdisk with 16.10, 2. put this in the mac and boot it, 3. erase the mac harddisk and install the os with my fancy partition ideas, 4. ubuntu is booting and i'm happy. is that right? :-)
[13:19] <cfhowlett> thebigj, xrandr is the app you need. sorry, can't tell you more than that
[13:19] <thebigj> At present VGA is blinking (Black screen. It is not displaying anything) I am able to use HDMI screen. It is displaying and my Laptop screen is also working
[13:20] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: after "root root" what's the number it shows?
[13:20] <RainbowDashy> It didn't tell me a file size EriC^^. This all I got http://i.imgur.com/2gbgjcx.jpg
[13:20] <RainbowDashy> Oh after root root
[13:20] <cfhowlett> _cpo_, again, I have not installed ubuntu to my mac air, only to my virtualbox in OSX.  follow points on the MAC ubuntu wiki and you should be gold
[13:20] <thebigj> When I move my cursor between multiple screen I found despite the VGA screen is blank the cursor is goin in that screen.
[13:20] <timss> Hi. Ubuntu 16.04, Quadro 600, nvidia binary drivers. Did an upgrade (361->367) and X11 broke. Tried with/without xorg.conf, always getting "no screen found". Can't find old .deb in cache directory, what can I do? Find old .deb somewhere and downgrade? Seems messy considering DKMS and dependencies..
[13:21] <_cpo_> cfhowlett, ok, understand. thx.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[13:21] <thebigj> cfhowlett: I tried to output `xrandr --output VGA --auto --left-of LVSD`
[13:21] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: are there any other files? try the same command but modify it like so
[13:22] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ls -l /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/*bootmgfw.efi*
[13:22] <thebigj> cfhowlett: it tells `xrandr: Configure crtc 2 failed
[13:22] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: look for anything like bkp.bootmgfw.efi or bootmgfw.efi.backup
[13:22] <cfhowlett> thebigj, I know only that xrandr is needed.  haven't set up a dual monitor myself.  ask in channel at 15 minute intervals.
[13:22] <thebigj> cfhowlett: I tried to find anything related on that error message but ended with no results.
[13:23] <RainbowDashy> Nope same file
[13:23] <thebigj> cfhowlett: I can understand. Many thanks for that advice. Hope admin will not kick me on reason of making noise in channel ;P
[13:23] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: and ls -l /mnt/efi/ubuntu ?
[13:24] <RainbowDashy> I will check
[13:24] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: look at the grubx64.efi and shimx64.efi
[13:24] <nlern> Restating prob.: in my ubuntu 16.04, in firefox (and maybe other apps) while browsing, in window titlebar, some characters are shown unreadable (with squares) but display correctly after maximizing window
[13:27] <RainbowDashy> EriC^^:  http://i.imgur.com/5DectpZ.jpg
[13:29] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ls -l /mnt/efi/ubuntu
[13:30] <_cpo_> has anyone a pure ubuntu 16.10 macbook air installation?
[13:30] <RainbowDashy> http://i.imgur.com/1Xc7VjC.jpg EriC^^
[13:31] <RainbowDashy> I now have an internet connection now yay
[13:32] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: awesome
[13:32] <RainbowDashy> It's totally super awesome
[13:32] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:33] <slacko_15773> hi
[13:33] <slacko_15773> any libe ?
[13:33] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: the efi files look fine, the microsoft one seems pretty large(usually it's 1150000) it's 16.... but i guess it's the actual microsoft one
[13:33] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: the ubuntu ones are there 1100.. and 128....
[13:33] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: now the mystery is how grub is coming when you boot the pc
[13:34] <chandru_in> I have set UMASK 077 in /etc/login.defs and there is no override in ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc. The umask command still prints 0022 in gnome terminal, but prints 0007 when I log into tty1.
[13:34] <RainbowDashy> That uefi partition I think
[13:34] <RainbowDashy> It's like a grub recovery or something
[13:34] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: it's grub rescue> ?
[13:34] <RainbowDashy> I think so
[13:35] <slacko_15773> xxxzzxzxz
[13:36] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:38] <khuseyn> тут люди что делоют
[13:38] <EriC^^> !ru | khuseyn
[13:40] <timss> Hi. Ubuntu 16.04, Quadro 600, nvidia binary drivers. Did an upgrade which included nvidia 361->367 and X11 broke. Tried with/without xorg.conf, always getting "no screen found". Tried `dpkg -i ...` the .deb for nvidia 361, but it didn't work. Might be other packages in play too, but they've been autoremoved (why?!) from /var/cache/apt. Help?
[13:41] <khuseyn> .
[13:42] <khuseyn> 0
[13:42] <RainbowDashy> Um EriC^^ what does the command do?
[13:42] <RainbowDashy> I think it's stuck
[13:42] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: press ctrl+c
[13:42] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: it should pastebin the output of sudo parted -l and give a link
[13:42] <RainbowDashy> Ok
[13:43] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: try sudo parted -l does it ask anything like ignore/cancel?
[13:43] <RainbowDashy> HTTP://termbin.com/0yds
[13:47] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: bingo
[13:47] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok there's a bios_grub partition
[13:47] <EriC^^> so it might be using that to get grub, are you absolutely sure csm legacy is disabled in the bios and uefi enabled?
[13:52] <nlern> Hello, I have a Ubuntu 16.04 desktop in which while running firefox, for normal window, some characters in titlebar are displayed by boxes.  See for normal https://imgur.com/JsVs8uC and for maximized https://imgur.com/KVnzyGV.  what should i do to display text correctly
[13:53] <Guest33084> hello!
[13:58] <RainbowDashy> Yep EriC^^ I will reboot to make sure
[13:59] <Ljod> hi. i'm trying to kill a process called beremote, but when i do sudo killall -v beremote, killall says the process terminated, but when i do ps -A, it's still there with the same pid!
[14:00] <RainbowDashy> http://i.imgur.com/3SCg1i2.jpg EriC^^
[14:00] <RainbowDashy> Just rebooted check to see if legicy was on and it was off
[14:01] <SRvSaha_> Hello all
[14:01] <ikevin> Ljod, try killall -s 15 -v beremote
[14:01] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, for the record ubuntu is still installed it seems
[14:01] <SRvSaha_> Is there any command line pastebin utility like fpaste in fedora ?
[14:01] <Pici> SRvSaha_: pastebinit
[14:02] <RainbowDashy> ? I deleted it that's an legicy install
[14:02] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: the ext4 partition is still there
[14:02] <RainbowDashy> Legicy xubuntu
[14:02] <RainbowDashy> Ubuntu uefi is deleted
[14:02] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: ok, ultimately you want to get rid of ubuntu and keep only windows?
[14:02] <ikevin> SRvSaha_, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/pastebinit.1.html
[14:03] <SRvSaha_> EriC^^,  Thanks al lot
[14:03] <EriC^^> RainbowDashy: everything is still there right now, ext4 is there, and ubuntu efi files and bios_boot for grub
[14:03] <EriC^^> SRvSaha_: for what?
[14:03] <SRvSaha_> For this info.
[14:03] <SRvSaha_> It'll help me a lot :)
[14:03] <RainbowDashy> I installed that it's useing legit bios which is off
[14:04] <EriC^^> SRvSaha_: i didn't msg you, i think you mean ikevin or Pici ? :)
[14:04] <SRvSaha_> Oh sorry. My bad -_-
[14:04] <SRvSaha_> Thanks Pici
[14:05] <Pici> np
[14:05] <SRvSaha_> Thanks ikevin for the man page :)
[14:05] <zrts> ubuntu is now coming with systemd by default?
[14:05] <SRvSaha_> Pici, Can you kindly tell me how to upload the file after writing it from stdin
[14:05] <BluesKaj> SRvSaha_, you're not bad, just mistaken
[14:06] <SRvSaha_> BluesKaj, :)
[14:06] <Pici> SRvSaha_: it should do it automatically.  Just pipe something into pastebinit and it will give you a URL.
[14:06] <SRvSaha_> What if I am trying in it ? Pici
[14:06] <Ljod> ikevin: -15 didnt work, but -9 did :)
[14:06] <ikevin> :)
[14:06] <Pici> SRvSaha_: press ctrl-d
[14:07] <Ljod> i dont get, shouldnt killall send -9 by default ?
[14:07] <Ljod> get it*
[14:07] <Zen> Ljod: for the record, -9 means the kernel will forget about it, its the harshest way to end a process as any file writing that it may be doing will stop and will just corrupt stuff
[14:08] <ikevin> Ljod, according to manpage, killall send by default SIGTERM
[14:08] <Zen> You only use -9 if you absolutely must, else let the program reach its exit state on its own
[14:09] <SRvSaha_> Pici, Ctrl+D doesn't work -_-
[14:09] <Ljod> Zen: maybe it was ignoring the signal?
[14:09] <SRvSaha_> Pici, Even the pipe is not working
[14:09] <Ljod> well, whatever.. it wasn't doing anything at the time.
[14:09] <Zen> Ljod: possible, you can override signal handling in your code
[14:10] <Zen> For the most part -9 won't hurt for small things, but sending by default is dangerous
[14:11] <ikevin> kill -9 1 can be dangerous :x
[14:11] <Ljod> :D
[14:11] <slacko_15773> xc
[14:12] <user150987> huh, not again... ubuntu randomly refuse to boot, but works on second try
[14:16] <SRvSaha_> Pici, I figured out the pipe. Now, pipe is working . But not the manual entry in pastebinit
[14:17] <SRvSaha_> Pici, Well, now the manual entry is also working. Thanks.!
[14:18] <tom_> hi
[14:21] <wabbits> tom_ Is there something we can help you with, or are you just looking for love in all the wrong places? :)
[14:21] <tom_> hello
[14:21] <wabbits> beep beep noise
[14:23] <slacko_15773> czxxcz
[14:23] <slacko_15773> :D
[14:23] <MaxWell> what
[14:26] <MaxWell> who
[14:26] <beni_> any girl want to talk with me? XD
[14:28] <ilhami> lol
[14:29] <ilhami> you think this is a dating channel?
[14:30] <user150987> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23517021/ found syslog of my failed boot. what next?
[14:33] <gedinskas> Guys, who is working witt LXD?
[14:57] <DammitJim> is it better to install 16.04 LTS from scratch
[14:57] <DammitJim> and migrate applications to the new server
[14:58] <DammitJim> or just upgrade from 14.04 ?
[14:58] <Dr-007> good day. i'd like to reset my root password since i lost it. i found online that i should hold the shift key to enter the boot menu from grub and the append a little text to something. i never reach this boot menu. any idea's to fix? or just pop in a USB and re-install?
[14:59] <user150987> smash left shift rapidly
[15:00] <user150987> it may or may not work, reboot and retry if it doesnt
[15:01] <user150987> it has be right after bios and before system start, so start smashing when bios logo up
[15:01] <user150987> *to
[15:03] <terminalboy123> hey
[15:03] <terminalboy123> I have a problem with ubuntu startups
[15:04] <terminalboy123> I don't know if its something i did but on every startup before i type in the hard disk encryption password the monitors go to sleep
[15:04] <terminalboy123> it takes a good 40 seconds for them to get back up for the password screen
[15:04] <hateball> terminalboy123: nvidia gpu?
[15:04] <terminalboy123> amd
[15:04] <terminalboy123> I format my PC, it went back to normal, then this morning again it does it
[15:05] <hateball> terminalboy123: after you've done upgrades? could be a kernel regression
[15:08] <Dr-007> user150987, thanks. i got in by remembering the password
[15:08] <user150987> kek
[15:09] <Dr-007> now, i heard its possible to make an installable ubuntu image. is this installable image only usuable by that specific PC/CPU? or will it be installable on any PC?
[15:10] <user150987> good luck trying that, even the official ubuntu disk doesnt always work
[15:11] <terminalboy123> hateball, well
[15:11] <terminalboy123> all i can say is
[15:11] <terminalboy123> that the last time this happened it was after uninstalling KDE
[15:11] <terminalboy123> and now
[15:11] <terminalboy123> it started happening after i installed VLC
[15:11] <terminalboy123> which could be unrelated
[15:12] <codex_> :D
[15:12] <codex_> hi guys just showing IRC for my students
[15:13] <terminalboy123> university is a scam
[15:14] <jiohdi> something in apt is broken... If I do apt update/upgrade nothing shows up, but if I do synaptic reload, mark updates, there is a bunch
[15:14] <jiohdi> so how do I fix it
[15:14] <BluesKaj> codex_, heh, your students probly think IRC is archaic
[15:16] <terminalboy123> its probably a universal computer class in a uni
[15:16] <terminalboy123> where they teach excel
[15:16] <user150987> so 19s. git a facebook
[15:18] <BluesKaj> terminalboy123, he left before our comments got posted
[15:18] <terminalboy123> i redpilled those kids
[15:21] <dn> hi,where can I find the beautiful themes for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:21] <terminalboy123> google
[15:22] <terminalboy123> What DE?
[15:22] <Dr-007> Err http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/main i386 Packages
[15:22] <aaaaaaaaaaa> guys, I killed a process using Fuser, how can I restart that process?
[15:22] <Dr-007> where can i get a list for packages.list for my country?
[15:22] <Dr-007> (for apt-get)
[15:23] <jiohdi> Dr-007, btw, you can use apt without the get in the newer ubuntu distros
[15:23] <glitchd> anyone aware of a way i can launch a program the at the same time the login screen comes up?
[15:24] <jiohdi> glitchd, you would have to be able to launch a bunch of programs for that to happen\
[15:24] <glitchd> jiohdi, my fingers are so used to hitting the dash after i type apt that when just tried that i hit the dash anyways lol
[15:24] <LinuxNovice> hello, has anybody here heard about or used LXLE?
[15:24] <glitchd> what do you mean
[15:25] <dn> glitchd : you can put you program in rc.local or ～/.profile
[15:25] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, no, not a single person..
[15:25] <jiohdi> glitchd, at login barely anything is up and running yet.
[15:25] <LinuxNovice> Why?
[15:25] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, //sarcasm
[15:25] <Dr-007> jiohdi, i'm on avery old one im trying to get to the latest. its a little chinese pc preinstalled with a custom build ubuntu i just figured out. so thats probably why its complaining about missing packages. is there a way to find out if there's a default ubuntu available for my machine?
[15:26] <LinuxNovice> I am asking seriously.
[15:26] <glitchd> dn, jiohdi its a remote keyboard and mouse application that i can launch and connect to the server with in a single command
[15:27] <glitchd> Dr-007, if your machine runs ubuntu already, you should be able to just install another one right over the current one, theoretically amyways..
[15:27] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, sry i was just joking with you
[15:27] <heurka113> What exactly does the disk encryption do on start up?
[15:28] <LinuxNovice> ok. But, do you know of this distro LXLE?
[15:28] <glitchd> jiohdi, dn anyways the command i would need to run and have kept running is "synergyc 192.168.0.12"
[15:29] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, lxde is just the desktop manager, i believe
[15:29] <tgm4883> LinuxNovice: this is the ubuntu support channel if you have a support related question, ask it. Otherwise, you're looking for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:29] <BluesKaj> LXDE is a desktop environment , not a distro
[15:29] <zetheroo> how secure is the keyring in Ubuntu? Is it encrypted when the user is not logged in?
[15:29] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, also im pretty sure there is a room for lxde support..
[15:29] <LinuxNovice> I am not asking for LXDE. I asked about LXLE.
[15:29] <jiohdi> isnt lxle a distro based on ubuntu?
[15:30] <LinuxNovice> LXLE is also based on Ubuntu.
[15:30] <jiohdi> I think I used it many moons ago, but don't remember why I did not continue with it
[15:30] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, its the same thing basically
[15:30] <dn> LinuxNovice  what does it mean ? lxle?
[15:30] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, its still a ubuntu derivative
[15:30] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, just like lxde
[15:30] <jiohdi> different distros have their own repositories and sometimes that causes restrictions
[15:32] <jiohdi> lxle is based on lubuntu which is a stripped down version of ubuntu for older machines
[15:32] <LinuxNovice> http://www.lxle.net/
[15:32] <tgm4883> none of this is support...
[15:33] <LinuxNovice> I was just curious, just wanted to know if anyone here uses this.
[15:33] <ren0v0> Hi, is it possible to connect to the internet over wifi, but LAN over ethernet via network manager?
[15:33] <jiohdi> de-bloated as it were
[15:33] <glitchd> LinuxNovice, how bout you just ask your question and stop trying to explain what lxle is as we know what it is already
[15:33] <tgm4883> LinuxNovice: then ask in #ubuntu-discuss
[15:33] <glitchd> ren0v0, both at the same time?
[15:33] <ren0v0> glitchd: yea
[15:33] <BluesKaj> LinuxNovice, it can't be much different than ubuntu with lxde desktop
[15:34] <glitchd> yes it is
[15:34] <LinuxNovice> I have a very old laptop. I thought of asking for a suitable distro for it.
[15:34] <glitchd> ren0v0, yes it is
[15:34] <wtn4726> LinuxNovice: how old is old?
[15:34] <jiohdi> LinuxNovice, if its really old, then puppy linux
[15:34] <LinuxNovice> It was bought in 2005.
[15:34] <ren0v0> glitchd: any pointers? i've googled for a while and the solution i found doesn't work, it kicks me off one or the other
[15:35] <LinuxNovice> Intel Celeron M, 1.5 Ghz, 2 gb ram and 40 gb hdd.
[15:35] <glitchd> ren0v0, your using network manager?
[15:35] <vfw> LinuxNovice: Anyone will be fine, just use a light DE, like xfce or lxd
[15:35] <jiohdi> BluesKaj, it is, its very stripped down
[15:35] <ren0v0> glitchd: yea
[15:35] <vfw> *lxde*
[15:36] <wtn4726> LinuxNovice: i have a comparable notebook running at my parent's place with debian 8 and mate desktop
[15:36] <vfw> LinuxNovice: If you install standard ubuntu, you can install xubuntu-desktop  (xfce is what I use)
[15:36] <LinuxNovice> ok
[15:36] <BluesKaj> actualy LinuxNovice, regular ubuntu with lxde should run fine on those specs/HW
[15:36] <vfw> LinuxNovice: What is the processor speed?  How much RAM is in it?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> vfw, look above
[15:37] <LinuxNovice> 1.5 GHz Intel Celeron M, Single core. and 2 gb ram.
[15:37] <jiohdi> LinuxNovice, if you want it to fly, puppy is the way to go, but its repositories are very restricted
[15:37] <wtn4726> LinuxNovice: the default ubuntu desktop (unity) will probably run very slow or not run at all, so xfce or lxde will suit better
[15:38] <glitchd> ren0v0, the connect both interfaces to the network then on the network connections gui double click on the main connection and look at the bottom of the windows that pops up and find a button that says routes
[15:38] <LinuxNovice> that is the reason I am asking for opinions here.
[15:38] <glitchd> ren0v0, add the other connections information there.
[15:38] <mamalos> hey everybody!
[15:38] <glitchd> yo
[15:38] <mamalos> I'm trying to setup vlans on Ubuntu 16.04.1
[15:38] <LinuxNovice> Need a distro which is well supported has large repositories, is stable and secure.
[15:38] <ren0v0> glitchd: let me add some more info. I want to connect to the LAN via ethernet, and the internet via WiFi. The wifi is not on the same network as the LAN, its a mobile access point
[15:39] <mamalos> and I'm having some troubles when trying to permanent add them via /etc/network/interfaces
[15:39] <ioria> LinuxNovice, your problem it's not the distro but the cpu
[15:39] <mamalos> I've read a few guides, but something in my setup seems to fail
[15:39] <ren0v0> glitchd: my ISP is down, so i am tethering through mobile for internet, but i still need files on my NAS etc.
[15:39] <glitchd> ren0v0, my advice still stands
[15:39] <mamalos> I'll pastebin my config
[15:40] <glitchd> ren0v0, i literally just read about that, give me a minute to try and find you a link
[15:40] <dn>  LinuxNovice  This machine is quite old
[15:40] <ioria> LinuxNovice, it's not only old, but is an 'M'
[15:40] <wtn4726> ioria: running debian 8 with mate on a thinkpad r51 (which also has a single core pentium m) is not too slow. i guess the pata hdd (also 40gb) is slowing down more than the cpu
[15:41] <mamalos> there we go: http://pastebin.com/JaAk3st9
[15:41] <wtn4726> ioria: so running ubuntu with xfce or lxde should be possible
[15:41] <ioria> wtn4726, issues on installing on M https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[15:41] <ioria> wtn4726, non pae kernel
[15:41] <mamalos> when I'm using the appropriate commands (eg vconfig add etc.) it works fine
[15:42] <wtn4726> ioria: that's why i installed debian 8, which still has the option for non-pae kernel
[15:42] <mamalos> but I'm not sure how it can be properly integrated in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:42] <mamalos> thanks all in advance!
[15:42] <ioria> wtn4726, but it want lubuntu
[15:42] <ioria> *s
[15:42] <ilhami> Hey!
[15:42] <ilhami> What is the Ubuntu social channel called?
[15:42] <ioria> wtn4726,  he wants lubuntu
[15:43] <BluesKaj> ilhami, #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:43] <ilhami> oh man I am also banned there. :/
[15:43] <wtn4726> ioria: does lubuntu come with non-pae kernel by default?
[15:43] <ioria> wtn4726,  until 12.04
[15:43] <wtn4726> ioria: oh well...
[15:44] <ioria> wtn4726,  then you have to fake-flag and do-release-upgrade to 14 and 16
[15:44] <wtn4726> ioria: as long as it retains the non-pae kernel
[15:44] <ioria> wtn4726,  for now, it does
[15:44] <mamalos> ah, and my interface is eth0 (changed grub to use eth0, blahblah naming scheme)
[15:45] <wtn4726> ioria: okay
[15:45] <ilhami> is IRC getting new features? :P
[15:45] <ilhami> ooops wrong channel.
[15:45] <ren0v0> glitchd: any joy ?
[15:45] <ioria> wtn4726,  you need anyways the  linux-image-generic-pae pkg
[15:45] <mamalos> any suggestions?
[15:46] <Dr-007> glitchd> i want it reinstalled, i dont trust this chinese install. i'm writing the latest ubuntu server to a usb to test if it can be installed like that and there's actually no need for a custom build ubuntu.
[15:46] <mamalos> (apart from running everyghing from /etc/rc.local which is a bit messy:) ?)
[15:46] <wtn4726> LinuxNovice: so you need to some extra work to run ubuntu on that thing, because the standard 32 bit kernel in ubuntu expects the pae feature in the cpu, which it doesn't have
[15:47] <glitchd> Dr-007, ..ok
[15:49] <donofrio> How do I get AirWatch enrollment of a ubuntu host? (the MDMAgent and the linke *not server* but CLIENT)
[15:50] <glitchd> ren0v0, i cannot find the link..
[15:51] <mamalos> If this is not the right place for this question, should I address my question to a different channel that I don't know of?
[15:54] <Joel> 14.04, in /etc/cron.daily I have an "apt" cron, any ideas what it would be for? reading it over, but there's no specific "This does XYZ type comment in it"
[15:56] <glitchd> ren0v0, wow i actually found the link afterall http://askubuntu.com/questions/10741/how-to-set-up-dual-wired-and-wireless-connections
[15:59] <donofrio> does anyone here use Airwatch@corp place with ubuntu?
[16:03] <aborakan> hi all
[16:05] <mamalos> hey, found the solution to my problem, so here's for anybody interested: I had forgotten the interface name after each instance of vlan-raw-device (which was eth0 in my case)
[16:05] <mamalos> thanks for your time anyways
[16:06] <amber_> wowo
[16:06] <Thinkey> can anyone here help me with my printer?  It was working yesterday and today it isnt :/
[16:06] <Thinkey> and when i try to reinstall it, i get a server-error-internal-error  when i locate the IP of the printer and try to use it
[16:06] <amber_> first time enter this chat
[16:08] <Dr-007> thinkey is that still your printers IP? is it on? perhabs it changed and the list you're looking at shows an old IP
[16:08] <Thinkey> I am able to ping the IP yes.
[16:08] <donofrio> How do I get AirWatch enrollment of a ubuntu host? (the MDMAgent and the linke *not server* but CLIENT) ??
[16:08] <Thinkey> i can ping the IP through terminal fine
[16:09] <Thinkey> just pinged it from the router as well
[16:24] <ren0v0> Hi, i'm trying to use ethernet for local network and wifi for internet same time. I've setup a connection on eth0 called "intranet, and i've setup in "routes", to "use connections for this only". However, it still only lets me use one at a time, it keeps switching off my internet, or lan ocnnections
[16:27] <ren0v0> pulling my hair out...
[16:27] <th0r> ren0v0, are you planning that all computers on your intranet get internet through that computer?
[16:28] <ren0v0> th0r: no
[16:29] <ren0v0> th0r: simply my ISP is down, so i'm using mobile connection for internet, but still need LAN access for NAS
[16:29] <ren0v0> http://pastebin.com/YCqbj5Xc
[16:29] <ren0v0> this is how its setup currently
[16:29] <vfw> ls
[16:31] <th0r> ren0v0, this is how my routes are set up http://paste.debian.net/897699/
[16:33] <th0r> I am using that computer as a gateway for all on my intranet so I also had to set up iptables. you may need that too...not sure for your setup
[16:33] <ren0v0> th0r: from the little i understand it doesn't look too much different? But they aren't playing nice together, if i play a song for example (over nas), the internet dies
[16:33] <vfw> LinuxNovice: Ubuntu is all of that.
[16:33] <ren0v0> th0r: i'm literally just trying to use this one machine
[16:33] <glitchd> i messed up network manager somehow..lol
[16:33] <glitchd> im connected, but i cannot browse
[16:34] <ren0v0> NM sucks, if i click "edit" on a connection now i freezes for 30-60seconds
[16:34] <glitchd> is there any way to reset network manager to default?
[16:34] <th0r> ren0v0, right. except for that fact your setup is just like mine. I stream audio/video from an nas...but keep all that internal.
[16:35] <workisfun> hi guys, Chromium has been blocking random websites (i.e. amazon , outlook office365) but these work fine on Firefox http://askubuntu.com/questions/852359/ubuntu-16-04-chrome-browser-blocks-many-assets-from-loading
[16:35] <eelstrebor> does this lshw output matter if the device is working or am i missing out on some capabilities?   *-processor UNCLAIMED
[16:35] <ren0v0> th0r: then i don't know what's going on, but it won't do both things at once
[16:36] <ren0v0> workisfun: yes its a known issue
[16:36] <eelstrebor> (it's a scsi device - flat bed scanner)
[16:37] <ren0v0> th0r: would it be any better if i were more specific with my routes? for example unticket "allow only connections to this network" and specify my NAS IP or something ?
[16:39] <th0r> ren0v0, if it was me, I would set the thing up as a gateway for the whole network, then work at blocking all other nodes from outgoing to the www
[16:40] <glitchd> i fixed it lol
[16:40] <rory> guest: no
[16:40] <ren0v0> th0r: what "thing"?
[16:40] <jay_> Skankhunt42 here
[16:41] <ren0v0> nas   <  this machine   >   internet                         -  i don't have anything else i want to connect to or through it
[16:41] <workisfun> ren0v0: nooooooooooooooooo, so there's nothing i can do about it then?
[16:42] <th0r> ren0v0, your computer. except for the fact that you don't want other intranet coming through it to the internet you are setting up a classic gateway
[16:42] <ren0v0> workisfun: don't think so
[16:42] <ikevin> ren0v0, route add -host <ip of the nas> dev eth0
[16:43] <Zemifeller> hi askhat
[16:43] <Zemifeller> :)
[16:43] <askhat> Hi guys! Could anyone suggest me any particular solution to host email server with ability to handle multiple domains?
[16:43] <askhat> Zemifeller hello
[16:43] <ikevin> askhat, exim/dovecot
[16:43] <Zemifeller> :)
[16:43] <pelicano> how can i download from rapidgator using jdownloader??
[16:43] <Zemifeller> new to ubuntu
[16:44] <ren0v0> ikevin: things kind of work via browser, i can connect to it directly and talk here, the issue actually seems to be when i mount a share on the NAS fia nfs
[16:44] <askhat> Zemifeller thank you, I'll look at it
[16:46] <ilhami> how would I install deepin DE on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS? :)
[16:46] <ilhami> do I have to install from source?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> you could use wget or curl or youtube-dl any other number of downloaders on linux , pelicano
[16:52] <kuSuSE> this is a little off topic but when I send an email to alice and bcc bob, alice can see that I bcc'ed bob?
[16:53] <rory> yes ilhami you have to install from source there aren't any ubuntu packages
[16:53] <rory> ilhami: or rather 16.04 packages
[16:56] <ilhami> Hmm. How long would it take to install from source for a newbie? :)
[17:03] <ioria> ilhami,  give a look at this maybe  (don't ask me if it works :-)   )  https://launchpad.net/~leaeasy/+archive/ubuntu/dde
[17:04] <ilhami> I will take the risk. :P this laptop is old anyway.
[17:04] <ilhami> Thanks.
[17:04] <ioria> ilhami,  no prob... but i think it has hight specs
[17:06] <Secret-Fire> plasma keeps crashing in kubuntu
[17:07] <dbtid> howdy; i have ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[17:07] <Secret-Fire> taskbar crashes and reloads
[17:07] <dbtid> i have a many versions of kernels+initrd in /boot
[17:07] <dbtid> uname -r says i'm using 3.13.0-71, but it's not using the latest -100
[17:07] <dbtid> how do i tell the system to start using the latest?
[17:08] <dbtid> and is there a proper way to remove the older ones other than "rm"
[17:10] <tgm4883> dbtid: don't use rm, you would need to remove the packages
[17:10] <tgm4883> dbtid: and you should start using the latest one if you reboot
[17:11] <dbtid> well, the latest one was installed on Oct 18, and the system has been rebooted many times since then.
[17:11] <dbtid> so for some reason, it's not updating (grub, i guess) to load the newest one
[17:11] <ra21vi> need help switch to Intel from Nvidia, as its probably causing more issues using Nvidia..
[17:12] <pelicano> how can i download from rapidgator using jdownloader??
[17:12] <ra21vi> Since I am not planning to use graphics intesive things on dell 7559, and want to get suspend working flawlessly,
[17:13] <dbtid> i'm going to reboot and see if i can force the latest.
[17:13] <ra21vi> when I switch to intel using tool prime-select on Ubuntu 16.10, i cannot get it boot. It stucks and freeze.. any idea
[17:14] <ra21vi> anyone using dell with nvidia 960M.. but switched to INtel and got it working
[17:16] <McMicMac> Hi!
[17:16] <dbtid> so i manually updated the boot instructions during the last boot
[17:16] <dbtid> so i'm using -101 now
[17:16] <dbtid> i have another ubuntu 14.04 machine and its kernel is much more recent
[17:17] <dbtid> it's 4.4
[17:17] <dbtid> i'm not sure why this one is still at 3.13
[17:17] <dbtid> that doesn't make any sense either
[17:17] <McMicMac> Quick question: I have a partition mounted a /home/a_folder. How would my fstab have to look like so that it has _exactly_ the same rights as /home?
[17:17] <McMicMac> Because I currently can't execute anything on the partition.
[17:18] <ilhami> ioria, I installed it but I can't get past login screen when choosing deepin as DE.
[17:18] <ra21vi> McMicMac, which FS
[17:18] <ioria> ilhami,  ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[17:19] <McMicMac> ra21vi: FS? Filesystem? NTFS
[17:20] <ra21vi> McMicMac, so are you getting permission denied?
[17:20] <ilhami> ioria, it lists one file
[17:20] <ioria> ilhami,  owned by you or root ?
[17:20] <ilhami> by me
[17:20] <ilhami> ilhami ilhami
[17:20] <McMicMac> ra21vi yes. I'm trying to execute a file using chmod +x [file] and then ./file, but I get "permission denied".
[17:21] <tgm4883> dbtid: sounds like one was installed 14.04 and the other was a point release of 14.04
[17:21] <McMicMac> even with sudo and everything.
[17:21] <ioria> ilhami,  cat ~/.xsession-errors  |nc termbin.com 9999
[17:21] <ra21vi> McMicMac, ok. can you follow this - http://askubuntu.com/a/245283
[17:21] <McMicMac> And is it then identical to /home?
[17:22] <ra21vi> McMicMac, what do you mean by identical to home?
[17:23] <ilhami> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[17:23] <ilhami> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[17:24] <McMicMac> ra21vi I would like it so that I don't notice that this folder is actually on an other partition than /home, ever.
[17:24] <ra21vi> McMicMac, NTFS cannot act like those which supports linux, like ext3, ext4, reiserfs etc.. So the way around is label it with some emulated permission.. you still cannot set custom permission to NTFS artifacts, AFAIK
[17:24] <ioria> ilhami,  look at you home folder with ls -l  and see if there are some files owned by 'root'
[17:24] <McMicMac> ra21vi but to the partition as a whole?
[17:25] <ilhami> ioria, all ilhami ilhami
[17:25] <ra21vi> McMicMac, yes
[17:26] <ioria> ilhami,  what's your video card ?
[17:27] <McMicMac> ra21vi ok, alright, thank you.
[17:27] <ilhami> GeForce GT 520M
[17:27] <ilhami> I think this laptop has a dedicated and an integrated Intel card.
[17:29] <ioria> ilhami,  and what are you using right now ?
[17:30] <ilhami> ioria, how do I check that? I think I am using the dedicated one. The GeForce one.
[17:30] <ra21vi> can anyone help me get my Intel Graphics work on Dell 7559.. currenly running nvidia
[17:30] <ioria> ilhami,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[17:31] <ilhami> ioria, after reboot now I see the deepin login screen.
[17:31] <ilhami> can't get past it though
[17:32] <ilhami> hmm now I logged in but see a totally black screen.
[17:32] <brotherBox> hi guys. im using the GUI installer on an UEFI system and i want to use my ESP partition as /boot, but the interface wont let me. it seems to be common practice though. is there a way to use ESP as /boot?
[17:32] <ioria> ilhami,  open a console and restart lightdm (alt+ctrl+Fx  and sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service)
[17:33] <ldsh> Hi, I would like to use my ubuntu gnome with my new NVIDIA 1050 Ti, but I have only a black-grey screen at the moment of login (and nothing in live CD after I chose to try without installing). It works fine under Windows (so the card is not dead). I see that some people (phoronix) have this card working on linux.
[17:33] <ioria> ilhami,  i suggest you ,also for a feedback, to contact the mainteiner of the ppa
[17:33] <ilhami> I can't login. I see the deepin login screen now.
[17:34] <ilhami> 2nd time I try to login I hear a sound. But then I just see a black screen hehe
[17:34] <ioria> ilhami,  add a new brand user
[17:34] <ilhami> then it says Disconnected. Network cable is unplugged
[17:34] <ilhami> I see the dock now in the bottom.
[17:34] <ioria> ilhami,  this is painful
[17:34] <ilhami> ok it seems to work now.
[17:35] <ioria> ilhami,  how much ram ?
[17:35] <ilhami> 4GB
[17:35] <ioria> ilhami,  it should work ... cpu ?
[17:38] <glitchd> i had a folder mounted on my desktop from my server and was able to access it, same thing on my server, it can access it. i messed up network manager and had to reinstall it. now i can access the ssh folder of my server but my server can still access mine. what did i mess up and how can i fix it?
[17:39] <Tumulte> Hi ! is there a way to remember a IRC channel password in thunderbird
[17:39] <Tumulte> ?
[17:40] <ilhami> ioria, i5-2410M
[17:40] <brotherBox> Tumulte: get a proper client like hexchat
[17:41] <ioria> ilhami,  ok, if you  have problems, open a console and try to add a new user (adduser mikey - usermod -a -G sudo mikey)
[17:41] <ilhami> ioria, it works. I just need to find a way to add danish keyboard layout lol
[17:41] <Tumulte> same question minus trolls
[17:42] <ioria> ilhami,  oh, i see.... if you do it from unity, it should be available also from that thing, i guess
[17:42] <ilhami> well I found a way. :) deepin is pretty awesome.
[17:42] <ioria> ilhami,  good job
[17:43] <ilhami> ioria, thanks man. I like to test new stuff.
[17:43] <ioria> ilhami,  you're welcome
[17:44] <ilhami> ioria, are you ikonia's brother btw?
[17:44] <ilhami> lol
[17:44] <ioria> ilhami,  no mate. :þ
[17:47] <irib> indians please do not record any  tutorial  by the English language
[17:47] <usil> does anyone know wft. is this process http://pastebin.com/8Rp2Kb6u
[17:47] <glitchd> anyone familiar with ssh in here?
[17:47] <tsglove> glitchd, many people.
[17:47] <glitchd> i had a folder mounted on my desktop from my server and was able to access it, same thing on my server, it can access it. i messed up network manager and had to reinstall it. now i can access the ssh folder of my server but my server can still access mine. what did i mess up and how can i fix it?
[17:47] <glitchd> tsglove, ^^
[17:48] <tsglove> What is the problem?
[17:48] <glitchd> i keep getting connection refused location not mounted
[17:48] <Pici> usil: looks like some docker related thing: https://github.com/rancher/rancher
[17:48] <ilhami> ioria, only problem seems to be that I have to write the password twice at the login screen to be able to login. :P I can live with that I guess.
[17:49] <usil> Pici: yes, but I don't run any container know
[17:49] <ra21vi> wow guys, i am sitting on a useless system (atleast for now).. anyone can let me know where should I ask my questions or is it bad time?
[17:49] <usil> how can I remove this process
[17:49] <ioria> ilhami,  contact the maintainer, he may have a fix
[17:49] <ra21vi> I wouldnt prefer to work on a laptop with suspend issue..
[17:50] <ilhami> ioria, I will. :)
[17:50] <Pici> usil: do you remember installing this?
[17:50] <ra21vi> is there any other channel for help? or where I can find GFX experts?
[17:51] <ra21vi> irib, what did you mean by "Indian please do not record in english"
[17:52] <usil> I think I run rancher OS container, but I remov this contaner and images
[17:53] <ra21vi> very strange, i sent around 10 questions, but none has been answered.. i hope my messsages are being sent... can anyone acknowledge if you see this message..
[17:53] <Pici> ra21vi: we see you.
[17:53] <ra21vi> Pici, thanks Pici
[17:54] <brotherBox> irc is cruel in that way
[18:00] <ra21vi> why today its so silent
[18:00] <ra21vi> ubuntu used to be quite noisy
[18:04] <nacc> ra21vi: not really relevant; be patient.
[18:04] <nacc> ra21vi: what is your issue?
[18:16] <ra21vi> nacc, resume frm suspend freezes. Switching to intel from Nvidia freezes on boot. After few mins, external usb mouse freezes, have to replug to get it working... i think all maybe due to gfx issue
[18:18] <nacc> ra21vi: ok, 3 distinct issues, maybe all due to the graphics.
[18:19] <nacc> ra21vi: what do you mean 'switching to intel from nvidia freezes on boot'? what did you do to switch, where does it freeze?
[18:20] <vfw> And I don't know what "gfx issue" means.
[18:20] <vfw> GPU?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> gfx=graphics=gpu, yes
[18:22] <vfw> Ok
[18:22] <vfw> Too many acronyms
[18:23] <ra21vi> nacc, i see this error in dmesg - this pci device is not a vga device
[18:23] <am0nrahx> Is there a way to virtualize an existing ubuntu install and move it to VirtualBox?
[18:23] <ra21vi> nacc, now, if I switch to intel using prime-select intel... and reboot, booting freezes in console.
[18:24] <vfw> am0nrahx: You have to install via Vbox
[18:24] <nacc> ra21vi: wait, you're using prime/optimus whatever?
[18:24]  * nacc doesn't have any experience with it, sorry
[18:24] <am0nrahx> vfw, you know the process? or point me in the right direction?
[18:25] <ioria> ra21vi, already tried another kernel ?
[18:25] <am0nrahx> My laptop has a working install with GUI
[18:25] <ra21vi> nacc, ok. can you help me zero down on exact issue.. right now I suspect its due to gfx
[18:25] <nacc> ra21vi: i think the hybrid stuff is probably to blame -- maybe try to not use that stack at all? just using the intel stack, without the switching mode stuff, should just work.
[18:25] <ra21vi> ioria, which one? lower than 4.8.0-27-generic (current) or latest?
[18:26] <am0nrahx> ah, might have found it vfw
[18:26] <am0nrahx> dd to and image and that vbox manage to a vdi
[18:27] <ioria> ra21vi, if you have another kernel (ls /boot of dpkg -l | grep linux-image*) you can try to boot it from grub -> advanced options
[18:27] <ra21vi> nacc, issue is, if I resume from suspend, it works sometimes, or it freezes many times. Can that be due to hybrid gfx?
[18:35] <Onepamopa> trying to compile the latest intel igb drivers on ubuntu 16.04.1, however, getting this: http://pastebin.com/aGbrBbsF
[18:35] <Onepamopa> any ideas ?
[18:37] <loskutak> Hi, I cannot ping google.com -> unknown host... other domains work... can the DNS be broken on my side? what could I try to do?
[18:40] <vfw> loskutak: host av.com
[18:41] <vfw> loskutak: ping 47.88.136.245
[18:41] <loskutak> 47.88.136.245
[18:41] <vfw> loskutak: So you are in fact able to resolve host names.
[18:41] <vfw> loskutak: Does it take a long time?
[18:42] <vfw> loskutak: Does it take a long time to resolve the host name to an IP address?
[18:42] <loskutak> ping -> few seconds wait, then standard ping with 300ms latency
[18:42] <vfw> loskutak: Could be that your router is giving out a nameserver IP that is no longer in use.
[18:42] <loskutak> host av.com instant... host google.com -> connection timed out no servers could be reached
[18:42] <vfw> 300ms seems ok.
[18:43] <vfw> loskutak: can you ping google.com
[18:43] <vfw> ?
[18:43] <Jordan_U> loskutak: Try using the dns server 8.8.8.8 .
[18:43] <vfw> loskutak: What nameserver are you using now?
[18:43] <loskutak> vfw: I cannot
[18:44] <vfw> loskutak: Interesting..
[18:44] <loskutak> how to see what ns am I using?
[18:44] <vfw> loskutak: Are you using your router's caching nameserver?
[18:44] <tgm4883> loskutak: what is the output of 'host google.com 8.8.8.8'
[18:45] <vfw> loskutak: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[18:45] <vfw> loskutak: Try what tgm4883 suggests....
[18:45] <loskutak> tgm4883: connection timed out, no servers could be reached
[18:45] <vfw> loskutak: What country are you in?  (What is your location?)
[18:45] <tgm4883> loskutak: very interesting. Can you ping 8.8.8.8
[18:46] <Stinky_Feet> Onepamopa: Are your kernel headers matching your kernel? It is using /lib/modules/4.4.24-dk/build, what is the output of uname -r? I compiled the driver without problems...
[18:46] <Onepamopa> Stinky_Feet, yes they're matching
[18:46] <peeps[lappy]> does ubuntu still default to dash which masquerades as bash?  i can't remember how you even tell which is running. i thought maybe it was a symlink in /bin/bash, but not seeing it
[18:46] <loskutak> cannot ping 8.8.8.8
[18:46] <Onepamopa> uname -r -> 4.4.24-dk
[18:46] <vfw> loskutak: What country are you in?  (What is your location?)
[18:46] <loskutak> Czech Republic, Prague
[18:47] <Jordan_U> peeps[lappy]: Ubuntu has never had dash masquerading as bash. Ubuntu symlinks /bin/sh to dash.
[18:47] <loskutak> /etc/resolv.conf -> nameserver 127.0.1.1\nsearch lan
[18:47] <vfw> loskutak: Not sure what is going on.  You may need to talk to your Internet Service Provider.
[18:47] <tgm4883> loskutak: are you talking to us from the same machine that you are having the issue from?
[18:47] <loskutak> tgm4883: yes
[18:47] <Jordan_U> peeps[lappy]: You'll notice pretty quickly if you ever try to use dash interactively that it not bash.
[18:47] <loskutak> tgm4883: it is really weird...
[18:48] <Stinky_Feet> Onepamopa: OK, all I could think of, I'm on 4.4.0-47-generic, no problems...
[18:48] <Jordan_U> s/it/it's/
[18:48] <vfw> loskutak: Do you have a firewall/router that may be blocking google.com?
[18:48] <Onepamopa> Stinky_Feet, so you can compile it w/o problems? huh
[18:48] <Onepamopa> I'll try @ generic
[18:48] <tgm4883> loskutak: what's the output of 'nmcli d'
[18:49] <loskutak> vfw: possibly, don't know... but everything works well usually..
[18:49] <vfw> loskutak: You may need to restart your router, cable-modem, or DSL-modem.
[18:49] <Stinky_Feet> Onepamopa: Yep: http://pastebin.com/izZVdkxi
[18:49] <Onepamopa> I'll try now, booting ...
[18:50] <loskutak> tgm4883: wlan0 connected, eth0 unavailable
[18:50] <loskutak> ok, will try that
[18:50] <vfw> loskutak: traceroute 8.8.8.8
[18:50] <tgm4883> loskutak: what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:51] <Onepamopa> Stinky_Feet, strange, I was able to compile @ the generic kernel, but not @ custom
[18:51] <vfw> loskutak: Have you been experimenting with iptables?
[18:51] <Onepamopa> what the ...
[18:51] <Onepamopa> they having identical .config & everything
[18:51] <loskutak> tgm4883: 14.04.5
[18:51] <loskutak> vfw: no
[18:51] <loskutak> vfw: no config tweaking when this happened
[18:51] <vfw> fully updated?
[18:52] <vfw> You might try updates.
[18:52] <vfw> loskutak: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:53] <tgm4883> loskutak: can you ping termbin.com
[18:53] <loskutak> vfw: not really, but only few latest uninteresting upgrades pending. will do that...
[18:53] <mr_lou> I record a video on my phone at 2 am. Copy it to Ubuntu via Mass Storage => timestamp on the video becomes 3 am. Copy it to Ubuntu via MTP => timestamp = 2 am. Metadata for both copies says it was recorded 1 am.......   O_o     Have had this problem for years with several version of Ubuntu and several phones....   wtf?
[18:53] <Stinky_Feet> Onepamopa: Oh well, I have no idea...
[18:53] <loskutak> tgm4883: I can
[18:54] <vfw> loskutak: Finish updates and reboot.
[18:54] <tgm4883> loskutak: what's the output of 'tracepath 8.8.8.8 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:54] <vfw> tgm4883: You mean traceroute?
[18:54] <tgm4883> vfw: nope
[18:54] <vfw> Ok
[18:55] <tgm4883> vfw: although it gives the same output, I think it was renamed at some point
[18:55] <Jordan_U> mr_lou: If the metadata for the video says it was recorded at 1 AM then it seems pretty clear that the phone is writing the metadata incorrectly.
[18:55] <ldsh> Hi, I would like to use my ubuntu gnome with my new NVIDIA 1050 Ti, but I have only a black-grey screen at the moment of login (and nothing in live CD after I chose to try without installing). It works fine under Windows (so the card is not dead). I see that some people (phoronix) have this card working on linux.
[18:56] <mr_lou> Jordan_U, Sounds logical, if it was just one phone. But it's been this way with the past 4 phones I've had. Granted, they've all been Sony phones.....
[18:59] <Jordan_U> mr_lou: While it unfortunately makes sense for timestamps on files to be mucked with by a file transfer, especially via USB Mass Storage and a FAT filesystem, the contents of the video file won't change no matter how you're transfering it. Is your phone configured with the same time zone as your computer? Does the phone itself report the time in the metadata of the video correctly?
[19:01] <mr_lou> Jordan_U, Both phone and Ubuntu is set to find the correct timezone themselves. I checked that it's correct; GMT+1 for me. But it sure does look like the phones uses GMT for meta. Yes, copying files from mass storage sometimes gives files a new timestamp: the one for when it was copied. This is not what happens here though. It doesn't get the timestamp of the time of the copy, but rather of the time of recording + 1 hour.
[19:01] <mr_lou> Jordan_U, This has happened ever since I used Sony Ericsson Aino (first time I noticed it), and up through other phones I've used since then.
[19:02] <mr_lou> Just crazy
[19:02] <mr_lou> At the time I assume it was a bug somewhere and that it would soon be fixed - but apparently not.
[19:02] <loskutak> tgm4883: http://termbin.com/73l0
[19:03] <tgm4883> loskutak: as vfw said, it's worth a shot rebooting your devices
[19:04] <kikll> hey people
[19:05] <loskutak> tgm4883: have been upgrading... going to try that now :)
[19:06] <phako> hi, where would I get help regarding a PPA built that is stuck in dependency wait?
[19:06] <phako> *build
[19:06] <nacc> phako: which PPA?
[19:07] <phako> https://launchpad.net/~yg-jensge/+archive/ubuntu/shotwell-unstable - it waits for libgexiv2-dev 0.10.24 which is also in that PPA
[19:07] <phako> er 0.10.4
[19:08] <kikll> guys im using trisquel mini 7 and i've add ubuntu repo's of trusty tahr since its base but when i do an update of my source list it ignores these repo's , can someone help please
[19:12] <cr__> hola
[19:12] <nacc> phako: i'm not sure how the ppa resolution works, tbh; it seems like when the build tried before, the pacakges weren't there. YOu might try asking in #launchpad.
[19:12] <kikll> here's what i get when i run apt-get update http://pastebin.com/ZnM8JxiM
[19:12] <cr__> i am new this
[19:13] <cr__> i test the SO
[19:13] <nacc> kikll: trisquel is not supported here, afaict.
[19:13] <nacc> kikll: i would contact their support
[19:14] <studio-user260> hi
[19:14] <nacc> cr__: what is "SO"?
[19:15] <studio-user260> it depends
[19:15] <studio-user260> but most likel it is a scream to stop the horses
[19:15] <phako> nacc: nah, the package was there before. But I'll check in lp
[19:22] <PapoHack> who speak spanish
[19:22] <Tachyon_> si
[19:22] <akik> !es
[19:24] <PapoHack> this is channel of support??
[19:24] <akik> PapoHack: yes, if you speak english
[19:25] <PapoHack> ohh my english is bad
[19:25] <PapoHack> jaja
[19:26] <loskutak> I am back... rebooted everything, still not pinging 8.8.8.8 But it seems something went wrong on much higher level, apparently it has got tv news coverage as well. Whole country affected? don't know
[19:26] <loskutak> at least I can still reach freenode :)
[19:28] <loskutak> http://downdetector.com/status/google/map/
[19:31] <koroso> hey all
[19:32] <loskutak> outlook down as well...
[19:33] <akik> loskutak: try connecting to your local country services first
[19:34] <akik> loskutak: and see if dns can find those ip addresses
[19:34] <loskutak> akik: yeah it works... only google based things went down
[19:37] <loskutak> But it seems our country is back online :)... Hopefully it will stay that way
[19:39] <loskutak> It is amazing how bad things start to be without accessible google... You cannot really search for what is going on, many people are using google DNS many websites are relying on fonts and other things from google etc...
[19:39] <pitti_> hi all. i just installed xubuntu on usb and it wont connect to wifi. i use password but it does nothing any help would be greatly apreciated :) im looking forward to learning linux
[19:40] <loskutak> thanks for the help!
[19:41] <Tachyon_> hello. because my system partition(I think it's std7 it's running out of space, I through about "borrowing" some space from std3. unfortunatelly, I don't know now what to do because if I try to grow sda7 says it doesn't have any space preceding. http://i.imgur.com/ZdyfpnH.jpg what can I do now ?
[19:41] <vfw> loskutak: It's best to use the nameserver recommended by your ISP
[19:42] <Tachyon_> sda * -- I am used with std from cpp :D
[19:42] <zero_> hola queria saber como instalar mpich2 y algun compilador intel para ubuntu gracias
[19:43] <Tachyon_> I thought it's english only here
[19:45] <loskutak> vfw: I had issues with that before, so I switched to google DNS... but the issue was that 8.8.8.8 was completely unreachable from our country now, so it was not a nameserver issue...
[19:46] <pitti_> am i doing this right?
[19:50] <koroso> how can i configure network on wireless because its started on lan :s
[19:57] <koroso> nobody can help me?
[19:57] <brotherBox> i have the same problem
[19:57] <brotherBox> i usually delete the wired connection then
[19:58] <ioria> koroso, what's your problem ?
[19:59] <LondonAppDev> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 16.04. Under the bluetooth icon (top right) I have a list of two devices and I want to remove these devices from the list. The problem is, when I go to the bluetooth menu where you can add/remove devices, they don't appear in the list. Is there a terminal command I can use to clear the devices off? Thanks in advance.
[20:04] <Alumin> The mouse in my Dell Latitude E6530 laptop running Kubuntu 12.04 (precise) isn't set up for scroll wheel emulation.  Where would I get started on figuring out how to set that up?
[20:07] <Alumin> are we talking getting my hands dirty with xorg.conf?
[20:07] <Alumin> that's what it used to be, back in the day, but maybe things are fancier now
[20:08] <pac1> ls
[20:08] <ldsh> Even on a live cd of the daily build of the development version of Ubuntu my 1050 Ti do not seem to work,whereas it is in the list of supported hardware on the nouveau website https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/#nv130familypascal and some people have made benchmark with it on linux at phoronix and I saw tutorials explaining how to install proprietary drivers. I just want to be able to boot in Ubuntu with this card installed.
[20:08] <ldsh> Does anybody have an idea of what to do?
[20:09] <koroso> hey ioria
[20:09] <ioria> koroso, what's up ?
[20:10] <koroso> when my system started it's automatically on ethernet
[20:10] <koroso> i'm fine and u?
[20:11] <koroso> i want to configure it on wlan
[20:11] <ioria> koroso, i'm ok, tx.... and you want to autostart wifi instead ?
[20:11] <pac1> I'm having trouble getting a library in /usr/local/lib to be recognized using ldconfig.  just running ldconfig does not add it to the cache.  I've looked online for information about this and the directions say to just run ldconfig.  I'm assuming that may not be enough.  Anyone have a clue as to what I'm missing?
[20:11] <koroso> yes thats right
[20:12] <koroso> i'm on lubuntu desktop now ;)*
[20:12] <ioria> koroso, ok, right-click on Network icon and choose 'Edit Connections' then edit again on your wifi connection , go in General  Tab and select autostart
[20:12] <ldsh> koroso, TLP allows to configure this kind of thing (and many other): http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html
[20:13] <BluesKaj> ldsh,  by development version do you mean ubuntu 17.04 , if so ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:13] <ioria> koroso, 'Atuomatically connect when available .... "
[20:14] <koroso> ok thank u ;) problem solved
[20:14] <ioria> koroso, good guy
[20:15] <ldsh> BluesKaj, By dev version I mean that I tried to use the most up to date possibility (so yes, 17.04) because I couldn't boot with the last release. So my problem is not specific to the dev version.
[20:15] <ldsh> I did just hope the dev one could solve the issue.
[20:16] <ldsh> But I would clearly prefer to work on release (16.10)
[20:18] <marco__> ciao a tutti
[20:18] <Bashing-om> ldsh: Try with the recommended driver ? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/111596/en-us . The 375 version is availabale in out trusted PPA .
[20:19] <koroso> ioria an other problem ;) what is the command on terminale to install .tar.gz
[20:19] <koroso> i_ try sudo alien
[20:19] <koroso> -k
[20:19] <koroso> but it doesnt work
[20:19] <mochaMan> can NetworkManager (in 16.04 if it matters) activate both a wired and a wireless connection at the same time? or do I need to do this without NetworkManager?
[20:19] <ioria> koroso, ta.gz is an archive (bunch of files) not installable per se
[20:19] <ldsh> Bashing-om, How do I install it when either the card is not installed, ether I can't boot?
[20:20] <koroso> okkk
[20:20] <ioria> koroso, tar.gz is just an archive
[20:20] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | ldsh
[20:20] <koroso> which extension i can install so ?
[20:21] <ioria> koroso,  you decompress it with tar -zxvf gile.tar.gz, maybe in a new directory thats all
[20:21] <ioria> koroso,  you install with apt-get install ( or if you know the risks with sudo dpkg -i)
[20:22] <Jordan_U> koroso: There is no standard way to install that will work for all tar.gz files. They are archives that can contain any contents, they are not packages. What are you actually trying to install?
[20:22] <ldsh> Bashing-om, Ok, so I remove the card, change the boot option, than reboot with the card. I go try this. Do you advise to have the screen plugged to the motherboard or the graphic card?
[20:22] <ioria> koroso,   but with .deb packages
[20:22] <koroso> yes i unzipped it then i just have to launch install file
[20:23] <koroso> kk
[20:23] <ioria> koroso,   be warned of the risks , you can break your system
[20:23] <koroso> i'm discovering ubuntu and info
[20:23] <koroso> ok ioria
[20:24] <ioria> koroso,   l/ubuntu  is ok as far as you don't mess with it
[20:24] <BluesKaj> ldsh, have you checked ubuntu-restricted drivers in 16.10 ?
[20:25] <davis> did something change recently regarding apt for security.ubuntu.com?
[20:25] <ldsh> BluesKaj, yes
[20:26] <davis> i'm trying to do apt update and its not responding
[20:26] <koroso> i will take care
[20:26] <koroso> :)
[20:26] <marco__> ciao a tutti
[20:26] <ioria> koroso,   good
[20:26] <BluesKaj> ldsh, and what was the recommended driver there?
[20:26] <Bashing-om> ldsh: Card monitor connected to the installed card, sos ystem detects . bot with the nomodeset boot parameter and install the PPA source , update the system to pick up this new source, install the driver .. and finally upgrade the system .
[20:26] <Jordan_U> koroso: No. Don't try to do anything with the tar.gz file yet. What are you actually trying to install?
[20:27] <koroso> i want to learn more about network ;)
[20:27] <koroso> it's ok jordan ioria has already answer me
[20:28] <koroso> can  u give me an advise to for it?
[20:28] <ldsh> BluesKaj, No drivers as I can't go to there with the card installed by now. So when I can access it, I'm with intel chipset
[20:29] <koroso> website for newbe
[20:29] <ioria> koroso,  http://linux-training.be/linuxnet.pdf
[20:29] <BluesKaj> ok , ldsh so you're running a hybrid gpu system ?
[20:29] <marco__> ciao
[20:30] <koroso> thank u :)
[20:31] <ldsh> BluesKaj, I was running with the chipset (integrated on the CPU) for some times before I got the new GPU.
[20:31] <Jordan_U> koroso: Is there a reason you are refusing to tell us what you're trying to install? Installing from tar.gz is rarely a good idea. You should try to stick to getting your software from the default repositories, possibly using ppas if needed, possibly .deb files if you're desparate and tar.gz files only if you have a compelling reason to do that instead of any of the former.
[20:31] <koroso> no lol it's just a software
[20:31] <koroso> for programming in python
[20:31] <ioria> yeah, that's usually
[20:31] <koroso> wingkdr
[20:31] <BluesKaj> ldsh, then you have to set the nvidia card/pci-e as default gpu/graphics in the uefi/BIOS
[20:32] <ioria> koroso,  no, please python is crucial on ubuntu :þ
[20:33] <koroso> ok ok :)
[20:33] <Bashing-om> ldsh: Did you change in bios for the new card ?
[20:33] <ldsh> BluesKaj, I did it. This was needed to access the bios (And I gess to work under Windows)
[20:33] <koroso> ^^ and linux using terminale for newbe do u have any doc about it ?
[20:34] <Jordan_U> koroso: Googling "wingkdr python" isn't showing any reasonable looking results. Is the software really named wingkdr?
[20:34] <Pici> Jordan_U: maybe wingIDE
[20:35] <ioria> !terminal | koroso
[20:36] <ioria> koroso,  is wingIDE as Pici said ?
[20:37] <koroso> yes
[20:37] <koroso> lol
[20:37] <ioria> koroso,  so, you can use .deb package ...
[20:37] <ioria> koroso,  the first on the list
[20:38] <koroso> ok thank u i will download .deb
[20:38] <ldsh> Bashing-om, I did add the nomodeset then update-grub, shutdown, set the GPU, plugged the hdmi to the gpu, than boot, it goes trough the bios and grub (it always did after I set the bios to use first pci-e), and it get stuck on something like /dev/nvme0n1p2: clean, numbers/numbers files, numbers/numbers blocks
[20:38] <ldsh> (the strange dev name is because the OS is on a nvme ssd)
[20:38] <ioria> koroso,  but geany can do the job (almost)
[20:39] <BluesKaj> ldsh, have you seen this?  http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/11/19/nvidia-375-20-released-x-org-1-19-support-ubuntu-ppa/
[20:39] <koroso> geany ;) ok i will do research about it
[20:39] <ioria> koroso,  after the download , double-click on it
[20:39] <ldsh> BluesKaj, Yes, but I first need to boot with nouveau in order to do such.
[20:40] <ioria> koroso,  30 days of trial though
[20:43] <BluesKaj> ldsh, can you get to a login with nomodeset?
[20:43] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | ldsh
[20:44] <ldsh> BluesKaj, Nope, I have the message I wrote to Bashing-om . I try to reboot in case
[20:44] <Bashing-om> ldsh: nvme devices I have no experience with .. All I know is that it should work now in 16.04 and above // You may have more at play here than graphics .
[20:45] <ldsh> But I have access  to tty2
[20:45] <ldsh> yes, the nvme did work fine. I don't think it creates a problem now
[20:46] <BluesKaj> ldsh, then sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade , then sudo apt install nvidia-375
[20:46] <Bashing-om> ldsh: Agreed, if you can reach a TTY .. the device is recognized and we can focus on a graphic's driver .
[20:47] <ldsh> Yes, that's what I'm thinkinf about ;)
[20:47] <ldsh> g
[20:48] <BluesKaj> ldsh, read my post above
[20:48] <Bashing-om> ldsh: K, any return from ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? As we prepare to install a driver .
[20:51] <ldsh> Seems I only have nvidia 304 as up to date, so I'll have to install the ppa
[20:51] <cheil> hello
[20:52] <BluesKaj> oh yeah forgot you needed the ppa for that driver, ldsh oops , my mistake , sorry
[20:52] <Adriannom> Hi. Using XFCE, I select a wifi network on NetworkManager, it tries to connect, then says "Disconnected - you are now offline". It DOESN'T ask for password. Other devices and ubuntu machines get a password prompt as expected and can connect fine. Help?
[20:53] <ldsh> Bashing-om, yes, the command return only the 304.132 . I go for the ppa
[20:54] <Bashing-om> ldsh: For that card you will require a later driver -- nVidia recommends the 375 version . ONLY one driver at a time can be installed . will have to purge that 304 driver prior to installing another .
[20:55] <BluesKaj> usually when nvidia drivers are installed the currentr driver is removed , shouldn't have to purge
[20:56] <ldsh> Bashing-om, It told me it was removing the 304 when doing a apt install nvidia-375
[20:56] <ldsh> But I was surprised doing update did not update from 304 to 375 (I did install first with nvidia-current)
[20:58] <ldsh> So it's installing now. Should I remove the nomodeset? (and put it back in case it do not work)
[20:58] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-current xenial
[20:59] <ldsh> rebooting
[21:00] <Bashing-om> ldsh: If you set nomodeset from the grub command line ..it is then a one time thing and will not carry over a reboot .
[21:00] <ldsh> And loggin prompt!
[21:00] <BluesKaj> odd that the nvidia-367 driver wasn't default for that card
[21:00] <Adriannom> Anyone?
[21:00] <ldsh> Bashing-om, I don't really know what this option does and if this should be removed if possible, or kept without worry
[21:01] <joeblow> Hi there.   I am having an issue where I cannot boot to the Ubuntu Desktop 64 bit 16.10 cd (or a USB stick) on my PC.   Can anyone help?
[21:01] <joeblow> I have tried with secure boot disabled, fast boot disabled, and intel rst disabled.
[21:02] <ldsh> Bashing-om, blueskSeems to work now :)
[21:02] <joeblow> I either get a hard lock with a black screen (keyboard lights solid and unresponsive) with USB,  or a repeated reboot when booting from DVD
[21:02] <Bashing-om> ldsh: nomodeset disables Kernel Mode setting and forces to use of the fall back graphic's driver in your case .
[21:02] <ldsh> BluesKaj, *
[21:02] <A124> How do I force new mysql install?
[21:03] <joeblow> My motherboard is an Asus Maximus Ranger III with an intel skylave processor
[21:03] <A124> I mean I removed the var/lib but then new install does not ask for spassword and does not create root user
[21:04] <joeblow> sorry thats a maximus ranger viii
[21:05] <compdoc> you removed /var/lib?
[21:05] <joeblow> I can boot other UEFI disks successfully (OSX/Chameleon, Windows 10, SteamOS),  just not ubuntu
[21:05] <ldsh> joeblow, I did not try with DVD, but I had that motherboard and it was booting fine with live USB
[21:06] <joeblow> ldsh,  yeah,  I was afraid it was a corrupt image,  but I redownloaded it multiple times and its the same image
[21:06] <Adriannom> No one knows about NetworkManager?
[21:06] <OerHeks> joeblow, any overclocking set on that mobo?
[21:06] <ldsh> Bashing-om, I removed the nomodeset and it still booting fine :)
[21:07] <joeblow> It was overclocked,  and I set everything down to stock defaults.   I still see the same behavior
[21:07] <ldsh> Bashing-om, BluesKaj thanks for your help :)
[21:08] <compdoc> Adriannom, I never install it because I dont need it. but whats the problem?
[21:10] <Adriannom> Using XFCE, I select a wifi network on NetworkManager, it tries to connect, then says "Disconnected - you are now offline". It DOESN'T ask for password. Other devices and ubuntu machines get a password prompt as expected and can connect fine.
[21:10] <Bashing-om> ldsh: To make sure that you are no longer using that boot parameter ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "Kernel command line:" ' .
[21:12] <Adriannom> compdoc: this is a new one on me, the pc is going to be used by muggles so I need NM to be working
[21:14] <compdoc> Adriannom, is XFCE your only desktop?
[21:16] <Adriannom> compdoc: yup
[21:17] <A124> how to force package reconfigure for mysql to create root user etc?
[21:17] <compdoc> Adriannom, I dont know how you put that system together, but why not just boot the ubuntu desktop without installing, and see how it's supposed to work?
[21:17] <Adriannom> Syslog says: wlp9s0 state change failed, reason "none"
[21:18] <Adriannom> compdoc: it was working fine before :/
[21:18] <b00b00> hello
[21:18] <compdoc> ahh
[21:19] <Adriannom> Oh, it also says wlp9s0 failed to initiate shed scan
[21:19] <compdoc> there an option to forget the connection, so you can set it up again?
[21:19] <Adriannom> Tried that
[21:19] <compdoc> lspci shows the wlp9s0?
[21:20] <A124> Useless channel as always
[21:20] <Adriannom> It shows the wireless network controller
[21:20] <compdoc> still named wlp9s0?
[21:21] <Adriannom> Nope, it just has a description
[21:21] <ldsh> Bashing-om, The nomodeset is not present in the return of the command.
[21:21] <Adriannom> Network controller: Intel corporation wireless 3160 (rev 93)
[21:21] <ldsh> So that should be good
[21:22] <b00b00> i wrote a script that analyze log stardate+timestamp<--->enddate+timestamp, all works fine, but the problem i ran into is like if timestamp not exist log, then i have nothing in return since value not exist, is there a good way to handle such case in bash? like if i use timestamp="2016-11-10 00:00" so if "00:00" not exist script will try from "00:01" or in case of "00", will try "01" (hours
[21:22] <b00b00> case), thanks
[21:22] <Bashing-om> ldsh: Good ,, should now be good to go .. hapy trails to you :)
[21:22] <compdoc> Adriannom, three should be a lof showing driver errors. maybe dmesg?
[21:22] <compdoc> *log
[21:23] <b00b00> i want to avoid extra loops and so, so asking if there is "well known solution" for such case
[21:24] <b00b00> i prefer for some reason bash in that case, so please not Python me :)
[21:25] <Adriannom> compdoc: bunch of stuff, standing out we have "link is not ready" and "deauthenticated from <mac address?> reason: 15=4WAY_HANDSHAKE_TIMEOUT
[21:26] <bittin> popey or anyone else here that can edit the Ubuntu wiki?
[21:26] <Adriannom> "
[21:26] <bittin> guess it should be 2016 and 2017 here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
[21:26] <bittin> and not 2013 and 2014 :p
[21:27] <compdoc> Adriannom, possible one of the little antenna connections is undone or unscrewed? tried power cycling the wap?
[21:29] <root____5> test
[21:29] <OerHeks> bittin, good find!
[21:30] <root____5> Hey, people.
[21:30] <bittin> OerHeks: heh yeah :p
[21:30] <Adriannom> compdoc, maybe but it's a laptop. Nope but same error vs other nearby secured access points
[21:30] <harveyc> hello everyone from manchester
[21:30] <Bashing-om> root____5: Not a good practice to run an IRC ckent as "root" huge security hole .
[21:31] <root____5> Yeah, Hi. Hello everyone from Baku
[21:32] <Adriannom> compdoc: I'm going to find an ethernet port and see if reinstalling network manager helps
[21:34] <tolecnal> I'm trying to delay the start of the daemon process LCDd, so I first used: 'update-rc.d LCDd remove', followed by 'update-rc.d LCDd defaults 10 10' to have it with a lower priority. However, when I look at the symlinks created in rc2.d/ -> rc5.d/, they are all listed as 'S03LCDd', meaning it doesn't respect my custom values. This is under 16.04LTS. I haven't used 16.04 that much, but used update-rc.d quit
[21:34] <tolecnal> e a bit under 12.04 and 14.04 without ...
[21:34] <tolecnal> ... issues, is this dealt with differently from 16.04 and onwards?
[21:34] <davis> on ubuntu, do you use ethtool or nm to change settings for autonegotiate, 1000mb, full duplex?  I'm trying to modify via ethtool and it does not ocmpleain but afterwards when I query the interface it is still set for autonegotiate
[21:35] <davis> nm-connection-editor does not show any ui for mondifying these settings
[21:35] <davis> but I also don't know where to put them so they stick after reboot
[21:35] <Bashing-om> tolecnal: Short response is yes .. 16.04 is now systemd rather than upstart.
[21:36] <Bashing-om> tolecnal: To convert from upstart to systemd see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .
[21:40] <tolecnal> Bashing-om: thanks, much appreciated
[21:44] <Bashing-om> tolecnal: Well .. at leat point ya in the right direction, though no direct help :)
[21:44] <alex123> Hi what is the PPA for Barry: http://www.netdirect.ca/software/packages/barry/installdebian.php
[21:45] <tolecnal> Bashing-om: hehe, I don't think I'll bother with rewriting it just as of yet. I think I'll rather just rename the symlinks manually :) less work.
[21:46] <debkad> alex123: try the deb from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/barry/files/barry/
[21:46] <Bashing-om> tolecnal: I am all for "less work" .
[21:46] <alex123> debkad, thanks :)
[21:46] <tolecnal> Bashing-om: had it been for work, I'd put more effort into it. This however is for my HTPC at home, so not really that critical.
[21:46] <Pici> alex123: it looks like the barry packages are in the Ubuntu repos, no need for a PPA
[21:47] <Pici> (oh, nevermind, they were removed)
[21:47] <malkauns> is there a way to resize a Xephyr window on the fly?
[21:47] <DBSNode> NO
[21:47] <DBSNode> forget it
[21:47] <DBSNode> you can't
[21:47] <alex123> Pici and debkad, appreciate  your help :D
[21:47] <debkad> No problem :)
[21:49] <malkauns> lol thx
[21:50] <malkauns> can u move an app window between different Xephyr window sessions?
[21:54] <Marku> TiCPU: and others I finally fixed it..  i had to select the efi in ubuntu within the bios security tab... thanks for helping me
[21:57] <debkad> malkauns: i don't know about Xephyr, but may be xdotool can have some useful task that you can use with Xephyr
[21:57] <malkauns> hmm
[21:58] <malkauns> was thinking even maybe Xephyr combined with Xpra
[21:59] <debkad> malkauns: here is someone have something related to Xephyr and he used xdotool http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/186273/emulate-key-combination-with-xdotool ( as a hint )
[21:59] <malkauns> k, thx will read
[22:01] <wirebrush456> fghf
[22:01] <wirebrush456> ah i can talk
[22:02] <debkad> congratulation wirebrush456
[22:02] <wirebrush456> clones eh
[22:03] <wirebrush456> clones allowed?
[22:03] <debkad> ?
[22:03] <debkad> many nicks?
[22:03] <wirebrush456> ya
[22:03] <debkad> 3 i think
[22:04] <wirebrush456> [22:02] Clones detected in ##linux: ngkaho1234 ngkaho1234_phone (*!*@unaffiliated/ngkaho1234)
[22:04] <nacc> wirebrush456: asking that question sort of implies you are not here for the right reason ...
[22:04] <debkad> anyway it depends on rules i guess
[22:05] <wirebrush456> i am just randomly clicking the mirc servers to be honest
[22:05] <Jordan_U> wirebrush456: Please take offtopic chatter elsewhere to keep this channel clear for Ubuntu support.
[22:05] <nacc> wirebrush456: don't do that.
[22:05] <wirebrush456> this server is massive huh
[22:05] <wirebrush456> ok
[22:06] <wirebrush456> sorry
[22:06] <wirebrush456> thousands of people man
[22:06] <nacc> wirebrush456: please stay on topic, the size of the channel is irrelevant
[22:06] <wirebrush456> ok
[22:08] <wirebrush456> well i was thinking of getting an old laptop and putting some linux on it
[22:10] <mpak> hi
[22:16] <Bashing-om> wirebrush456: Old hardware generally == (l)ubuntu in this channel .
[22:17] <malkauns> nacc, please stay on topic, the fact that he is talking about the size of the channel is irrelevant :P
[22:18] <wirebrush456> we are the borg you will be assimilated the size of the channel is irrelevant
[22:18] <fooobarrr> oh nice there's an airgas right near my work
[22:18] <slavanap> Does current Ubuntu kernel supports auditd (auditctl) or what is alternatives?
[22:19] <winsen> hi all
[22:19] <winsen> I need to change grub boot order, can you tell me which number I should use to make windows7 first, I don't understand  the 2 first lines :https://paste.debian.net/897848/
[22:19] <malkauns> fooobarrr, airgas is irrelevant
[22:20] <slavanap> winsen, why you want to make Windows first? Just google grub save state. It will resolve almost all issues with OS loading.
[22:21] <debkad> winsen: you can rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to /etc/grub.d/06_os-prober or /etc/grub.d/07_os-prober or /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober and update grub
[22:21] <Jordan_U> debkad: winsen: Don't do that.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> winsen: Use GRUB_DEFAULT='osprober-chain-6C262A14372B6B22' in /etc/default/grub to make Windows the default entry.
[22:22] <slavanap> winsen, http://askubuntu.com/questions/148662/how-to-get-grub2-to-remember-last-choice
[22:22] <debkad> Jordan_U: what's wrong with that?
[22:22] <Jordan_U> debkad: It will cause problems when the grub-common package gets updated with changes to /etc/grub.d/ .
[22:23] <slavanap> Does anyone know about auditctl?
[22:23] <debkad> i never had an issue with that methode .. may be things changed
[22:23] <slavanap> I want to log all network outgoing connections on my system. What I should use?
[22:25] <L0g4nAd4ms> OMG why is that that I have to make eclipse use GTK 2 because the default value 3 will hang my system ?
[22:25] <L0g4nAd4ms> http://askubuntu.com/questions/761604/eclipse-not-working-in-16-04 ?
[22:27] <Adriannom> compdoc: I've run out of time for today but thanks for your help :)
[22:28] <compdoc> Adriannom, you should still boot the desktop
[22:28] <compdoc> to see if the hardware is good
[22:28] <compdoc> *ubuntu desktop
[22:28] <Jordan_U> L0g4nAd4ms: Because this bug hasn't been fixed yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/java-common/+bug/1552764 If you'd like help working around the bug we can do that here, but if you're just here to complain about it not being fixed please move that to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[22:29] <Adriannom> compdoc: loaded windows and it worked fine
[22:29] <compdoc> ok. good luck
[22:29] <Adriannom> Thanks :)
[22:30] <slavanap> compdoc, have you ever used auditctl or alternatives?
[22:30] <compdoc> slavanap, no
[22:31] <L0g4nAd4ms> Jordan_U, why is  that that on a LTS version shit aint stable ?
[22:32] <slavanap> oh, it still supported although description references 2.6 kernel.
[22:32] <slavanap> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30046/logging-outgoing-connections-as-they-happen
[22:33] <Jordan_U> L0g4nAd4ms: That isn't a support question. Again, this channel is for support only. If you want to discuss why things are the way they are, or rant about your problems, please do so elsewhere.
[22:35] <cnidarian_king> hello
[22:36] <L0g4nAd4ms> Jordan_U, ok well then.
[22:36] <L0g4nAd4ms> i think this just a serious problem.
[22:40] <supercooluser> does anyone know where git puts the gitignore file?? i just installed git and am looking for the gitignore file.
[22:40] <supercooluser> er sorry, the .gitconfig file
[22:40] <nacc> supercooluser: um, that's in the repository, generally
[22:41] <nacc> supercooluser: oh, .git/config or ~/.gitconfig, etc.
[22:41] <nacc> supercooluser: it's not present by default, if that's what you're asking?
[22:41] <supercooluser> nacc, i want the global one so i can declare aliases that will be used in all my repositories
[22:41] <nacc> supercooluser: that's most appropriate to put in ~/.gitconfig
[22:42] <nacc> supercooluser: note that you sholnd't even need that level of knowledge, though
[22:42] <nacc> supercooluser: use `git config --global ...`
[22:42] <nacc> supercooluser: or `git config --system ...` if you insist, but if they are only needed for your user's repos, then the former is better, IMO
[22:43] <supercooluser> naac, information overload. i think i got it though
[22:43] <supercooluser> ill try both
[22:43] <supercooluser> git installed in /usr/bin. so do i put the .gitignore file there?
[22:44] <nacc> supercooluser: no
[22:44] <Sean_McG> hi, how do I properly bump the package version of a kernel when I am building it with custom patches? Is it determined from debian.<release>/changelog?
[22:45] <nacc> supercooluser: perhaps read `man git-config`, but you want to put it in ~/.gitconfig, a file called .gitconfig in your home directory (or just use `git config --global`)
[22:46] <Sean_McG> basically I patched a kernel I got from 'apt-get source $(uname -r)' and ran 'fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic' and the package name matched my currently running kernel which is not what I want
[22:46] <nacc> Sean_McG: you should do a `dch -i` before building
[22:46] <nacc> Sean_McG: to add a changelog entry
[22:46] <Sean_McG> OK
[22:47] <nacc> Sean_McG: but that won't necessarily bump your version 'correctly', it depends on what you are doing and what you want
[22:47] <supercooluser> naac, thank you
[22:48] <Sean_McG> I just want to prevent apt-get from offering me the kernel I had before. I understand that when the external repos bump the package I will have to re-do mine but that is fine.
[22:48] <Sean_McG> I'm currently on trusty, but I've switched to kernel 4.4.0 for the HWE update earlier this year.
[22:50] <vfw> Sean_McG: You can blacklist kernel upgrades.
[22:50] <hunter07> hello buddies
[22:51] <tak3d0wn> hello
[22:51] <hunter07> how are you today ?
[22:51] <tak3d0wn> doing fine. youself?
[22:51] <hunter07> nice to meet you i'm indonesian, and i use ths hex chat with
[22:51] <hunter07> gnome
[22:51] <tgm4883> !OT
[22:52] <Sean_McG> vfw: that's with 'dpkg --set-selection' ? Not a bad idea, but first I have to fix my local versioning issue
[22:53] <hunter07> ada orang indonesia ?
[22:54] <OerHeks> bittin, it is changed.
[22:54] <hunter07> jancok aku bingung cok nang kene
[22:54] <hunter07> wassu tenan terahe
[22:57] <tgm4883> Sean_McG: If you are just doing it for yourself, the version could look any way you want. What you'll probably want to do though is something like this   4.8.0-20.22+seanmcg
[22:59] <Sean_McG> tgm4883: cheers, will try that
[23:03] <Sean_McG> 8-core i7 and this still takes a while to build
[23:08] <krad_> huh
[23:12] <nds_> if i upgraded to yakkety correctly, am i mean to get updates from both yakkety in release and xenial in release?
[23:12] <genii> No, just Yakkety
[23:15] <nds_> ok, i had som trouble with a bug during the recommended update-manager, but with dist upgrade and install -f i have upgraded many packets and the kernel is on 4.8. should i manually edit the /etc/lsb-release to yakkety?
[23:15] <Sean_McG> I should plan to upgrade to xenial soon... maybe during the Christmas break when I have the time
[23:16] <Bashing-om> nds_: Have you rebooted since ?
[23:16] <nds_> hm, once. btw, now the gui-updater added xenial to sources.list, i should just delete that line right? i have 5 lines for yakkety there
[23:16] <genii> nds_: dist-upgrade will only upgrade applications over major releases and kernels. To go to a new *buntu ditribution is normally do-release-upgrade
[23:17] <nds_> ok
[23:18] <Jordan_U> nds_: Don't do anything more until we're more clear what the current state of your installation is.
[23:18] <nds_> sure
[23:18] <Jordan_U> nds_: How did you attempt to upgrade, and what exactly happened?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> nds_: Also, your sources.list file controls what repo you are accessing . have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list to see what release you are working with at this time .
[23:20] <nds_> i dont remember every permutation of commands i ran, but i tried doing it accordingly to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes but it crashed due to some crash related to python2.7 float unicode something
[23:20] <nds_> mid install, after that i tried running it in some other ways, like do-release-upgrade but they all failed
[23:20] <hello> hi there
[23:21] <nds_> at one point my repos was pointed to 17.04, then i deleted sources.list
[23:21] <nds_> at some point i was able to do apt install -f to be able to do apt dist-upgrade which ran for a long time and pretty much fixed everything, it installed 4.8
[23:22] <nds_> and now im here, many packets, like apt, is on a much higher version than on my old 16.04
[23:22] <nds_> but the gui-menu says 16.04 and my /etc/lsb.. says 16.04
[23:22] <nds_> i maybe ran do-release-upgrade after dist-upgrade, but then it didnt take effect
[23:22] <nds_> hm
[23:23] <nds_> should i run some command to give you a summary of my state?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> nds_: In my mind 1st is to look at the sources.list . pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' . so we know what we are working with and toward .
[23:26] <Bashing-om> !paste | nds_
[23:27] <Sean_McG> what the... I did a 'fakeroot debian/rules clean' and I think it smoked my changelog changes
[23:29] <nds_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519513/
[23:30] <nds_> i manually deleted the xenial lines the "Software & Updates" GUI added when i checked boxes for updates (they say for example "xenial-security" so i expected it to happen)
[23:35]  * Sean_McG aways for food -- thanks for the hints 
[23:35] <Bashing-om> nds_: Will have to work on your sources.list file ( get restricted and multiverse back ) but for now .. what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[23:38] <nds_> result, held back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519537/
[23:38] <nds_> kept back* :)
[23:40] <genii> nds_: use dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade
[23:41] <nds_> same result
[23:41] <nds_> i could paste it but i see that its exactly the same
[23:41] <Bashing-om> nds_: Now-a-days .. ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' is prefered over the apt-get dist-upgrade . May as well learn the new .
[23:42] <nds_> ty, yeah :) i dont even know the old, it is awesome to learn what the commands really do
[23:42] <nds_> same result again
[23:43] <nds_> is it because i have yakk in sources.list but my system think its on xenial?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> nds_: Do not know yet .. please pastebin the result of ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' . Let all see what you are looking at .
[23:45] <nds_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519566/
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !info cpp-5
[23:48] <Bashing-om> nds_: Does not bode well, huh ? .. what returns ' apt-cache policy cpp-5 ' for a point of reference .
[23:49] <nds_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519589/
[23:50] <nds_> ah now when i read the packages names.. theyre important
[23:54] <Bashing-om> genii: nds_ Not real sure of a best paractice here .. maybe best to fix the sources.list file before trying to --reinstall the held packages ??
[23:55] <nds_> should i remove the yakkety, let the "Software & Updates" GUI fill it with rows when i check the checkboxes?
[23:55] <nds_> what would do-release-upgrade do here
[23:58] <Bashing-om> nds_: All indications are presently that you are on yakkety . As such leave yakketty sources .. as to "do-release-upgrade" that is to go to the next release .. as of now there is no next in line .