[00:16] <peeps[lappy]> is there a way to run a custom command when xfce terminal opens?  before switching to xfce,i would seta custom command in gnome-terminal to "byobu -dR",  so i can only ever have a single terminal window open
[00:16] <peeps[lappy]> i don't see any option for that in xfce terminal though
[01:16] <peeps[lappy]> hrm, ok ijust realized there is a menu entry for "byobu terminal" already
[01:18] <xubuntu73w> hey, what file system should I format a USB to prep it for an ISO image using unetbootin?
[01:18] <xubuntu73w> to install 16.10
[01:20] <krytarik> xubuntu73w: FAT32.
[01:20] <xubuntu73w> another question: how much of xubuntu's default software is proprietary, if I choose to not install the "3rd party add-ons" during the install process, is the OS completely free?
[01:20] <xubuntu73w> Thanks
[01:22] <xangua> No
[01:22] <xubuntu73w> So which components are proprietary?
[01:23] <xangua> If you want a full free Libre OS, check the GNU site recommendations
[01:24] <xubuntu73w> Okay, I'll check that out. I do really like the ease of use with xubuntu though. My concern is that if I transition to a fully free OS, then I will run into a lot of compatibility issues
[01:24] <xubuntu73w> Especially with my hardware
[01:24] <krytarik> xubuntu73w: "All of the application software installed by default is free software. In addition, we install some hardware drivers that are available only in binary format, but such packages are clearly marked in the restricted component." - https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing
[01:25] <xubuntu73w> Thanks
[01:25] <xubuntu73w> I don't think I transition to a full free OS until I get a machine with more compatible hardware
[01:25] <peeps[lappy]> also many multimedia codecs
[01:25] <xubuntu73w> Yeah that's true
[01:26] <xubuntu73w> MP3 LAME is free though right?
[01:26] <xubuntu73w> I'd imagine most issues would be with video codecs
[02:14] <xubuntu99w> why am I getting an invalid partition table error when booting from USB
[02:14] <xubuntu99w> is it because I'm booting in legacy mode?
[02:15] <xubuntu99w> I used unetbootin to configure the USB with an ISO image
[02:17] <xubuntu99w> It's formatted in FAT32
[02:22] <krytarik> xubuntu99w: Try using some other tool for this then, there are a few listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:25] <krytarik> !md5sum | xubuntu99w: Also
[03:53] <xubuntu36d> Hey guys. Where in xubuntu screensaver for block profile by time?
[04:07] <xubuntu36d> кто живой?
[04:12] <chillfan> hey, where might I find the public signing key for xubuntu releases?
[04:15] <Unit193> chillfan: If you're already on an Ubuntu distro (or Debian with ubuntu-archive-keyring), then in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ubuntu-keyring-2012-cdimage.gpg  which should be  '8439 38DF 228D 22F7 B374  2BC0 D94A A3F0 EFE2 1092'
[04:16] <chillfan> ah so I can check with ubuntus
[04:16] <chillfan> good to know
[04:16] <chillfan> will take a look thanks :)
[04:21] <Unit193> Sure.
[04:34] <chillfan> Just checked them, worked OK thanks :)
[04:44] <krytarik> xubuntu36d: "Settings Manager → Power Manager → Security" or "Light Locker Settings", depending on what version of Xubuntu you are on.
[04:47] <chillfan> I'm not yet, just grabbed 16.10 though
[04:48] <chillfan> burnt, verified etc
 Xubuntu 16.04
 Automatically lock the session: When the screensaver is activated ?or deactivated
[04:50] <xubuntu96w> What's a good size for the root partition on a 500 gig drive?
[04:51] <chillfan> a root partition? about 5GB
[04:51] <xubuntu96w> That's it?
[04:51] <chillfan> it depends on your scheme
[04:51] <chillfan> if you want everything on /root ..
[04:51] <chillfan> then it should be much larger
[04:51] <xubuntu96w> All installed software would be going on /
[04:51] <xubuntu96w> Right?
[04:52] <chillfan> I'd go for 50-100GB, the rest would go to home and swap
[04:52] <xubuntu96w> Based on a 500 gig drive?
[04:52] <chillfan> yeah should be plenty for your programs
[04:53] <xubuntu96w> Ok, yeah I don't download that much, just libre office suite a few browsers, some small audio apps, and a music manager
[04:55] <chillfan> I have a split partition scheme, I'm using about 70GB for user data
[04:55] <chillfan> erm for system/program data*
[04:56] <xubuntu58w> Lost connection thanks chillfan
[04:56] <chillfan> np
[04:57] <chillfan> my partition scheme uses 70GB, home I have as 100GB
[05:00] <xubuntu58w> I don't see the full disk encryption option during the install
[05:00] <xubuntu58w> All I can see is the option to encrypt my home folder
[05:01] <xubuntu58w> I read that the full disk encryption option can only be selected during the install process
[05:01] <xubuntu58w> So I don't want to miss it
[05:02] <chillfan> hm not sure about that one, maybe these guys can help, I'm newbish to xubuntu too
[05:05] <chillfan> you want to use FDE?
[05:05] <chillfan> it's a good choice imo
[05:06] <xubuntu58w> Yeah I think it's called LUKS or something in the install utility
[05:06] <chillfan> yeah LUKS it will be
[05:06] <xubuntu58w> But I don't see it
[05:07] <chillfan> in the partition menu?
[05:07] <xubuntu58w> I might have missed it
[05:07] <xubuntu58w> But haven't installed yet so I can cancel and open the install utility again
[05:08] <xubuntu58w> If i remembet correctly the option was on the first page titled "preparing to install xubuntu"
[05:08] <xubuntu58w> But I'm back in that screen now and don't see it
[05:09] <xubuntu58w> Does anyone here know if FDE was removed as an install option in 16.10?
[05:10] <xubuntu58w> Ah I see it now
[05:10] <xubuntu58w> Wow that was dumb
[05:10] <chillfan> nice
[05:10] <chillfan> haha yeah
[05:11] <chillfan> if it's an option, you might consider to enable the home encryption anyway
[05:11] <chillfan> since you only need to logout of your user account to protect your data
[05:11] <chillfan> but good to know fde is there too
[05:11] <xubuntu58w> yeah I might do that too
[05:12] <xubuntu58w> Do you know what LVM is
[05:13] <chillfan> containers, you encrypt the partition and you format the logical (decrypted) volume
[05:13] <xubuntu58w> (Logical volume management) says it allows taking snapshots and makes resizing partitions
[05:13] <xubuntu58w> Easier. But can't I do that with gparted?
[05:14] <chillfan> well partitions within the container will be split up unlike regular partitions
[05:14] <chillfan> which will take the whole disk probably in this case
[05:14] <chillfan> split partition structure is better, so if it wants that I'd say let it so long as /home is big enough
[05:15] <xubuntu58w> Ok thanks
[05:16] <chillfan> and er, check that /   is at least 5GB, in emergencies the root partition needs to be bigger
[05:16] <chillfan> I found that out the hard way
[05:16] <xubuntu58w> Yeah it is haha
[05:17] <chillfan> all good then
[05:18] <chillfan> brb
[05:18] <xubuntu58w> Gotta go too, have a good one and thanks again for the help
[07:33] <RD-SAO_Fan> Hey does any one know if you can add the volume up/down sound to xubuntu. It's missing in xubuntu besides it being in ubuntu and lubuntu
[07:40] <FireStriker> Hi I'm trying to install xubuntu and it complain about not being able to find a backlight controller than started to flash at me like mad. How do i fix this
[07:49] <glitchd> FireStriker, what version and what computer?
[07:54] <FireStriker> 16.04
[07:55] <glitchd> what model computer and is it a laptop?
[07:55] <glitchd> i assume it is because desktops dont use backlights, but i want to make sure
[07:56] <glitchd> before i investigate
[07:56] <FireStriker> Ok let me get the pastebin I made
[07:56] <glitchd> mmk
[07:57] <glitchd> also, how where you trying to install? ie-live cd, usb, ..
[07:57] <FireStriker> Paste.ubuntu.com/23510185/
[07:57] <FireStriker> Live cd
[07:57] <glitchd> have you ever installed linux before?
[07:58] <glitchd> can you give me the exact error message?
[07:58] <FireStriker> Yep Xubuntu on old Toshiba not useing uefi
[07:58] <glitchd> ok
[07:58] <glitchd> error message?
[07:59] <FireStriker> Oh btw the laptop is uefi and I'm dual booting with win 8. And uefi can not be turned off
[07:59] <glitchd> if you dont want to use pastebin, you can dm me and paste it in there
[07:59] <FireStriker> Let me reboot the laptop to the live cd
[07:59] <glitchd> im not an expert on uefi, but ill do my best to help
[08:00] <glitchd> is it the same machine your talking to me on now?
[08:00] <FireStriker> It's not a problem with uefi atm and anyway I'm going to fix that later
[08:00] <glitchd> ok
[08:00] <FireStriker> No I'm on my phone
[08:00] <glitchd> ok cool
[08:01] <FireStriker> It ends up being easer
[08:01] <FireStriker> I need to be quick or it will piss off
[08:01] <glitchd> right on, whatever works for you
[08:01] <glitchd> what will the pc when try to boot a cd?
[08:02] <FireStriker> Bring up grub
[08:02] <glitchd> mmk
[08:02] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.comLaserAllan_:
[08:02] <FireStriker> Dam I lost it lol
[08:02] <FireStriker> That's a broken link
[08:03] <glitchd> wompwomp
[08:04] <FireStriker> http://i.imgur.com/lHLY0Ac.jpg
[08:05] <RD-SAO_Fan> Hey glitchd  do you know how to add the audio up/down sound to xubuntu. The kinda suns that's part of x and ubuntu
[08:06] <glitchd> i dont understand what youre asking..
[08:07] <RD-SAO_Fan> The pop that happens when you turn the volume up/down on ubuntu
[08:07] <glitchd> FireStriker, is it xubuntu your getting the error from?
[08:07] <FireStriker> The loading of the livecd yes
[08:07] <glitchd> ok
[08:08] <glitchd> RD-SAO_Fan, i have no idea
[08:08] <RD-SAO_Fan> That's alright
[08:08] <flocculant> FireStriker: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/PPC#No_desktop_with_Radeon_video_chips_on_LiveCD
[08:08] <flocculant> assuming you have no desktop at all when booting live
[08:09] <FireStriker> Yep
[08:10] <FireStriker> Just the splash screen going nuts at me while it fills the screen with words
[08:10] <flocculant> so it never reaches the desktop?
[08:10] <FireStriker> Nope
[08:11] <flocculant> start the live session - at the human/kbd screen - any key, F6, esc, add that video command to the boot line
[08:11] <FireStriker> Grub?
[08:11] <flocculant> I think that's the order anyway - still waking up
[08:11] <FireStriker> Lol
[08:11] <flocculant> nope - you shouldn't see grub in live session - if you're seeing grub then you're not talking about live
[08:12] <FireStriker> Oh
[08:12] <FireStriker> Ok
[08:12] <flocculant> 2 ticks
[08:12] <flocculant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options
[08:13] <FireStriker> I'm useing uefi btw with not choice of not using it as it would boot into uefi before legicy
[08:13] <flocculant> Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line is what you need to do
[08:14] <FireStriker> Ok
[08:18] <glitchd> RD-SAO_Fan, youre talking about the popup volume notification what you change the volume with hotkeys, right?
[08:21] <RD-SAO_Fan> Yep
[08:23] <glitchd> RD-SAO_Fan, is notify-osd installed?
[08:23] <RD-SAO_Fan> Let me check, package manager or something right
[08:24] <glitchd> you can check from terminal
[08:24] <glitchd> just try to install the package and it will tell you if its installed or not
[08:24] <glitchd> sudo apt-get install notify-osd
[08:24] <glitchd> i think thats the command
[08:24] <RD-SAO_Fan> Ok
[08:25] <flocculant> glitchd: no notify-osd here and it works as expected
[08:26] <glitchd> flocculant, are you on the same install as him?
[08:26] <RD-SAO_Fan> I'm 16.04
[08:27] <flocculant> notify-osd is not installed in that
[08:27] <glitchd> im on 16.04 and it is installed
[08:27] <RD-SAO_Fan> Just installed
[08:28] <Wayward_Vagabond> Is there some bug in thunar causing it to write meta-data to mp3s correctly?
[08:28] <flocculant> glitchd: then you installed it - or it was a dependency - it's not on the manifest ;)
[08:28] <glitchd> flocculant, so you dont have notify-osd installed but you still get the volume popup?
[08:28] <flocculant> ack
[08:28] <glitchd> ack?
[08:28] <flocculant> acknowledge
[08:28] <glitchd> oh..lol
[08:29] <glitchd> are you sure its not installed on your system?
[08:29] <RD-SAO_Fan> Nope didn't work
[08:29] <RD-SAO_Fan> Do I need to do a whole reboot?
[08:29] <flocculant> settings - notifications - is there an option for applications, is xfce4-volume daemon on?
[08:30] <Wayward_Vagabond> I can veiw it just the same as ones that came with correct meta-data, but my mp3 player completely disregards what thunar wrote, and keeps acting like the old data (or no data) is still on it
[08:30] <flocculant> I'm positive I have it installed - off to work now though
[08:30] <flocculant> bah - positive I DON'T have it installed
[08:31] <FireStriker> Oh have a good day so what do I do?
[08:31] <glitchd> right on flocculant
[08:32] <glitchd> FireStriker, im working on it lol
[08:32] <FireStriker> Ok
[08:33] <Wayward_Vagabond> Any idea why thunar isn't writing meta data correctly, and what a good program to fix the data on the files is?
[08:36] <glitchd> FireStriker, if you scroll the mouse wheel while hovering the volume icon is there a popup then?
[08:36] <FireStriker> ?
[08:37] <FireStriker> Um I just tried something
[08:37] <FireStriker> It's uefi
[08:37] <FireStriker> It doesn't like uefi
[08:37] <FireStriker> Tried booting in legicy (livecd) no problem
[08:37] <glitchd> i highly doubt missing notificatoin popups are related to uefi status..
[08:38] <glitchd> yep thats possible
[08:38] <RD-SAO_Fan> Are you talking about me glitchd?
[08:38] <RD-SAO_Fan> I'm having the notification issue
[08:39] <glitchd> RD-SAO_Fan, lol yea i think so, ive got to many convos going, getting them mixed up
[08:39] <glitchd> sry!
[08:39] <glitchd> FireStriker, sry!
[08:39] <glitchd> RD-SAO_Fan, if you scroll the mouse wheel while hovering the volume icon do you get a popup?
[08:39] <FireStriker> That's alright
[08:39] <RD-SAO_Fan> Will try that
[08:40] <RD-SAO_Fan> Nothing let me find my mouse
[08:42] <FireStriker> It still has the same backlight error but it gets into the live cd unlike uefi
[08:43] <RD-SAO_Fan> Nothing with mouse
[08:43] <glitchd> RD-SAO_Fan, but did the volume change at least?
[08:43] <RD-SAO_Fan> Nope
[08:43] <RD-SAO_Fan> Oh the slider or notification
[08:44] <RD-SAO_Fan> On the slider it moves but no sound
[08:46] <glitchd> try this, play some music or a video and do the same thing again and see if the actual volume changes with the popup or if it is only changing the popup's level
[08:48] <glitchd> sry RD-SAO_Fan but i gotta run
[08:58] <RD-SAO_Fan> Ok
[11:08] <RainbowDash-SAO_> Hi guys I'm back
[11:10] <RD-SAO_FAN> I have a computer which I'm doing an advance install of xubuntu on. It's going on to a 128gb hdd
[15:48] <xubuntu72w> hello everyone, i'm looking for some advise concerning the following issue.
[15:53] <xubuntu72w> my notebook sony vaio has its screen flickering and does not boot, it already had the same problem with win7 but it resolved itself within a few minute. Now with xubuntu the ubuntu logo just flashes every second and the computer just hang on while booting. Do you guys can help me fix this? Thank you so much in advance.
[15:58] <xubuntu28w> join
[19:05] <peeps[lappy]> is it possible to make the resize handle in the corner of the window larger than 1x1 pixel, without changing the appearence (window border size)
[20:05] <krytarik> peeps[lappy]: No.  Also see: http://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/
[21:09] <xubuntu18w> hello
[21:09] <knome> hello
[21:10] <xubuntu18w> i am looking for directions on how to create a bootable usb drive
[21:10] <xubuntu18w> i already downloaded kubunutu
[21:11] <xubuntu18w> Kubuntu rather
[21:11] <knome> wondering how you ended up on the xubuntu channel...
[21:12] <xubuntu18w> does it matter
[21:13] <knome> not really, just wondering how that happened.
[21:13] <xubuntu18w> is there a Kubuntu channel for help
[21:13] <xubuntu18w> i just went to support
[21:13] <knome> indeed, #kubuntu
[21:13] <knome> again, if you downloaded kubuntu, how did you end up to xubuntu support
[21:13] <knome> anyway, what's the system you are creating the bootable USB in?
[23:31] <xubuntu61i> hello
[23:31] <knome> hello
[23:32] <xubuntu61i> i'm newbie on linux and i need help with my sound card
[23:32] <knome> so what's the question?
[23:33] <xubuntu61i> i have a M7-K111DX notebook.... but i cant use integrated subwoofer...   of mi notebook
[23:34] <xubuntu61i> just sound stereo speakers
[23:34] <xubuntu61i> the speakers are beats audio
[23:35] <knome> have you tried changing the profile in the volume control?
[23:37] <xubuntu61i> y dont know what i must choice...  i just try?
[23:38] <knome> just see what sounds right... or just try
[23:38] <knome> the options are different per sound card
[23:38] <xubuntu61i> ok.. thanks i will try.