| duflu | robert_ancell (or anyone): This new package 'googletest' just appear in archive and it makes all our builds break. Please remove it :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/googletest/+bug/1644062 | 02:22 |
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| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1644062 in googletest (Ubuntu) "googletest 1.8.0-2 (on zesty) breaks existing builds [add_library cannot create target "gmock" ...]" [Critical,Confirmed] | 02:22 |
| duflu | *appeared* | 02:22 |
| robert_ancell | duflu, don't know what that is | 02:22 |
| duflu | Yeah it's new, as of last night. Overrides other packages | 02:23 |
| duflu | Crap. It's inherited from Debian. Created by a non-launchpad user. | 02:24 |
| hikiko | Hi | 06:07 |
| duflu | Morning hikiko | 06:36 |
| hikiko | hi duflu :) | 06:36 |
| hikiko | how are you? | 06:36 |
| duflu | hikiko: Good, you? | 06:37 |
| hikiko | good too | 06:38 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:30 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, hey, do you know anything I can do to get snapd-glib into xenial faster? | 07:31 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: as soon as someone actually tests it | 07:32 |
| pitti | bug 1635270, right? | 07:32 |
| ubot5` | bug 1635270 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Yakkety) "libsnapd-glib is not useful without snapd-login-service " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635270 | 07:32 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, no, I'll fing the bug.. | 07:33 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, I think it was bug 1620159 | 07:35 |
| ubot5` | bug 1620159 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu) "[MIR] snapd-glib" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1620159 | 07:35 |
| robert_ancell | The issue was I couldn't open a bug against the xenial snapd-glib package because it doesn't yet exist.. | 07:35 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: oh right, sorry, that was y | 07:36 |
| robert_ancell | actually, it was bug 1616943 according to the changelog | 07:36 |
| ubot5` | bug 1616943 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Xenial) "Can't auth against U1 in g-s" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1616943 | 07:36 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: sure you can; snapd-glib does exist, you can add a xenial task | 07:36 |
| robert_ancell | But yeah, both bugs are pretty closely related | 07:36 |
| pitti | (exists in Launchpad's "ubuntu" BRAIN) | 07:36 |
| pitti | ergh @ shift key | 07:36 |
| robert_ancell | It wouldn't let me at the time... | 07:37 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, tried now, xenial is not a checkbox on the "nominate series" page | 07:37 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: right, because that bug already has a xenial task | 07:41 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I figure someone added xenial tasks and then deleted them from the snapd-glib package | 07:41 |
| robert_ancell | oh | 07:41 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: you can delete the x task from gnome-software as well, and then add them both back | 07:41 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, bingo, worked! | 07:42 |
| robert_ancell | Thanks! | 07:42 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, so yeah, I just need snapd-glib to exist in xenial, so I can upload the g-s that will make use of it. | 07:43 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: thanks for the lightdm review; just typing a reply | 07:43 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, np, sorry for the delay getting back to you | 07:43 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: ack, then that bug seems appropriate for the SRU as it explains the background | 07:43 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: replied; I'm not entirely convinced that we should bother with TERM and wait for the session, but we can discuss that in the MP; I'll restore the patch for the time being | 07:44 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: and then, just upload a snapd-glib backport to xenial-proposed | 07:45 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, 1.2-0ubuntu1.1~xenial should exist in xenial-proposed, but I can't see it on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd-glib | 07:45 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: it's in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text= | 07:46 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, right, so who can let it out of the queue? | 07:48 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: any SRU team member; I'm currently restoring the lightdm patch, then I can do an SRU round | 07:53 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, awesome, thanks. | 07:53 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: in the meantime, you can upload the corresponding gnome-software SRU? | 07:55 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, sure | 07:55 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: lightdm uploaded and committed to bzr this time (as d/patch/ again) | 08:12 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ack | 08:12 |
| pitti | snapd-glib accepted | 08:17 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, uploaded, bye! | 08:47 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: good night! | 08:47 |
| willcooke | o/ | 08:59 |
| pitti | hey willcooke! | 09:00 |
| Laney | morning | 09:03 |
| willcooke | hey Laney pitti | 09:08 |
| pitti | hey Laney, good morning | 09:08 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:10 |
| willcooke | hey davmor2 | 09:10 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hey pitti willcooke Laney | 09:11 |
| Laney | hey willcooke, ahoy pitti, aloha davmor2, g'day seb128 | 09:11 |
| davmor2 | morning willcooke Laney and seb128 | 09:11 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hey davmor2 | 09:11 |
| Laney | I can see... | 09:11 |
| Laney | blue sky | 09:11 |
| Laney | and it's not raining! | 09:11 |
| pitti | Laney: turn off the video on that monitor | 09:12 |
| pitti | and look at the window instead :) | 09:12 |
| didrocks | hey desktop gang! :-) | 09:12 |
| willcooke | Laney, pics or it didnt happen | 09:12 |
| willcooke | wait | 09:12 |
| didrocks | roh #troll | 09:12 |
| willcooke | I can confirm | 09:12 |
| Laney | there we go, that is science | 09:12 |
| davmor2 | seb128, Laney: have you guys noticed no network icon if you have no connection I'm going to have a play about to double check it either friday or when I go home | 09:12 |
| Laney | nope | 09:13 |
| Laney | what release? | 09:13 |
| davmor2 | Laney: zesty of course | 09:14 |
| seb128 | that was reported on launchpad so it's not only you | 09:15 |
| flexiondotorg | Good morning Laney davmor2 willcooke pitti seb128 hikiko | 09:15 |
| seb128 | do you have the lightdm update that pitti did yesterday? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg | 09:15 |
| davmor2 | morning flexiondotorg | 09:15 |
| davmor2 | seb128: just upgraded now I'll have a look see | 09:16 |
| hikiko | good morning all | 09:16 |
| * hikiko highlights everyone's nickname | 09:16 | |
| hikiko | how are you? | 09:16 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:16 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko | 09:17 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, ping for when you're about | 09:19 |
| willcooke | errr | 09:19 |
| willcooke | contextless | 09:19 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 09:19 |
| * willcooke moves to query | 09:19 | |
| seb128 | willcooke, you said too much, need to give us the meat now | 09:19 |
| willcooke | just wanting to fact check a couple of things | 09:20 |
| willcooke | for U7 | 09:20 |
| didrocks | it sounds like politics! | 09:21 |
| Laney | strivers and skivers | 09:22 |
| * Laney could be a politician | 09:22 | |
| davmor2 | seb128: looks like it lightdm:amd64 (1.20.0-0ubuntu2, 1.20.0-0ubuntu3) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | did you reboot since? | 09:24 |
| davmor2 | seb128: not yet but then I also have a connection let me reboot and log into guest | 09:25 |
| hikiko | desktop irrelevant question: I'm trying to backup a whole partition with rsync because I want to delete it and install ubuntu afterwards but it takes ages, I am doing this since yesterday, do you know any faster tool? | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | seb128: okay so now it shows but about a minute after everything else is displayed | 09:36 |
| hikiko | it's about 300GB | 09:36 |
| seb128 | davmor2, that's the bug reported on launchpad | 09:38 |
| popey | hikiko: clonezilla | 09:38 |
| seb128 | which also claims that polkit doesn't work for a minute after login | 09:38 |
| seb128 | likely another systemd user session regression | 09:38 |
| seb128 | unsure if that's the same as pitti was working on though | 09:38 |
| seb128 | or a different issue | 09:38 |
| hikiko | thanks popey ! | 09:39 |
| popey | np | 09:39 |
| pitti | happyaron: Replace-Ad-Hoc-WPA-None-support-with-IBSS-RSN-PSK.patch, Revert-wifi-disable-Ad-Hoc-WPA-connections-lp-905748.patch, and wifi-Signal-on-the-wifi-device-when-its-supplicant-i.patch still exist in NM's debian/patches/ but not in series any more; can these actually be dropped? | 09:39 |
| pitti | seb128, davmor2: haven't followed the entire conversation, but you can disable the systemd user session in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/00upstart -- comment out/disable the "if" block that adds /usr/share/upstart/systemd-session to XDG_CONFIG_DIRS | 09:41 |
| pitti | doing that is useful -- many of these bugs come from the switch to dbus-user-session, but some are certainly also bugs in the systemd units | 09:42 |
| willcooke | pitti, happyaron is off sick atm - probably back next week | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, davmor2 is reporting that nm-applet is taking a minute to load after login on zesty (and we had a report mentioning that polkit has the same issue) | 09:42 |
| pitti | willcooke: ah, thanks | 09:42 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, I haven't see that one yet; most likely not related to the lightdm fix | 09:42 |
| seb128 | k | 09:42 |
| davmor2 | pitti: okay cool | 09:47 |
| desrt | does anyone know how to make valgrind treat individual "possibly lost" cases as reachable? | 10:21 |
| desrt | ie: i know some locations where some fishy pointer math is going on... i don't want to suppress them entirely... i just want valgrind to know that, indeed, they are reachable via mangled pointers (if valgrind finds any such pointers) | 10:22 |
| desrt | and otherwise, they are, indeed, lost | 10:22 |
| * seb128 doesn't know | 10:23 | |
| desrt | annoying. | 10:23 |
| willcooke | oh, Autumn Statement is on and I missed the start | 10:38 |
| willcooke | no it's not. The BBC is confusing me | 10:41 |
| seb128 | is that the budget discussion La_ney was mentioning earlier? | 10:41 |
| desrt | MemCheck:Leak \n match-leak-kinds:possible | 10:45 |
| desrt | this gets pretty close to doing the right thing... | 10:45 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah | 10:50 |
| Laney | willcooke: 12:30 | 10:52 |
| Laney | do you feel like you're Just About Managing? | 10:52 |
| * Laney hides behind hands | 10:52 | |
| willcooke | sounds about right | 10:52 |
| * Laney enjoys an organic kale and quinoa smoothie | 10:53 | |
| * Laney the metropolitan liberal elite | 10:53 | |
| * willcooke shakes his Guardian | 10:53 | |
| Laney | I actually have one of those ... | 10:54 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers | 11:05 |
| ricotz | looks like python2.7 2.7.12-7 breaks bzr | 11:06 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz, that might be a topic better placed on #ubuntu-devel for doko and/or barry | 11:10 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, I see, right | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | Laney: we are all jammin....jammin.....jammin....with the money we got | 11:15 |
| * Laney dist-upgrades from x to z without going through y | 11:44 | |
| Laney | LIFE ON THE EDGE | 11:45 |
| jcastro | hey everyone, the Valve guys are updating their package to support PS4 controllers and are adding new udev rules, I've filed the changes here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1644196 | 11:45 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1644196 in steam (Ubuntu) "Update udev rules to the latest upstream set" [Undecided,New] | 11:45 |
| jcastro | if someone has time to update these it would be lovely. | 11:46 |
| willcooke | Should probably mark that against udev as well as Steam | 11:50 |
| willcooke | at least I think so, | 11:50 |
| jcastro | ack | 11:50 |
| seb128 | that's not in systemd nowadays? | 11:52 |
| tjaalton | what draws the background of unity greeter? | 13:27 |
| tjaalton | nautilus it seems | 13:30 |
| tjaalton | downgrading that makes lightdm slightly happier here | 13:30 |
| tjaalton | while it still thinks the canvas is much bigger than my screen | 13:30 |
| === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln | ||
| tjaalton | [+2,91s] DEBUG: main-window.vala:187: Screen is 1600x900 pixels | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | [+2,91s] DEBUG: main-window.vala:195: Monitor 0 is 3200x1800 pixels at 0,0 | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | before it was 1600x900 for both, after scaling | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | in yakkety that is | 13:35 |
| Laney | Before what? | 13:37 |
| Laney | Nautilus isn't used there | 13:37 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, hum, I don't think nautilus is being used in the greeter no, that wouldn't make much sense | 13:37 |
| tjaalton | upgrading to zesty | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | well downgrading nautilus at least helped | 13:38 |
| tjaalton | downgrading lightdm did not | 13:38 |
| seb128 | how helped? | 13:38 |
| seb128 | did you drowngrade gtk as well? | 13:39 |
| seb128 | or gnome-desktop? | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | I only had a square "box" of the greeter visible on top left corner | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | no | 13:39 |
| seb128 | could be a coincidence | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | now I have the whole screen but the greeter is still "huge" | 13:40 |
| tjaalton | because it thinks the screen is bigger | 13:40 |
| seb128 | xorg/driver issue? | 13:40 |
| tjaalton | no | 13:40 |
| seb128 | or gtk/gnome-desktop one? | 13:40 |
| tjaalton | nothing changed there | 13:40 |
| tjaalton | dunno | 13:40 |
| tjaalton | I'm open for suggestions | 13:41 |
| tjaalton | what to downgrade | 13:41 |
| seb128 | I would try downgrading gtk | 13:41 |
| tjaalton | ok | 13:41 |
| tjaalton | uh | 13:42 |
| tjaalton | now it's removing half of the system, damn | 13:42 |
| seb128 | :-( | 13:43 |
| seb128 | you might need to have a yakkety source and /yakkety things that depends on the new gtk | 13:43 |
| tjaalton | I have yakkety added back to sources | 13:43 |
| tjaalton | yep, I have lightdm back as before | 13:48 |
| tjaalton | apt install libgtk-3-0=3.20.9-1ubuntu2 gir1.2-gtk-3.0=3.20.9-1ubuntu2 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0=1.8.0-1 gir1.2-totem-1.0=3.22.0-0ubuntu1 libtotem0=3.22.0-0ubuntu1 libgail-3-0=3.20.9-1ubuntu2 libgtkmm-3.0-1v5=3.20.1-1 | 13:48 |
| tjaalton | it stil removed totem and something | 13:48 |
| tjaalton | should unity8 run as guest? | 13:51 |
| tjaalton | probably not, complains about some permissions | 13:55 |
| tjaalton | filed bug 1644240 | 14:09 |
| ubot5` | bug 1644240 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "lightdm greeter not shown properly on zesty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1644240 | 14:09 |
| === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko | ||
| davmor2 | seb128, Laney, willcooke: are there any automated test for installing snap packages through software center? | 15:10 |
| willcooke | davmor2, just talked to j_ibel about that briefly. Don't think so, but if you want to start a thread with Robert Ancell please cc me in | 15:11 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: awesome thanks | 15:11 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| seb128 | don't think so either | 15:15 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, the gtk guess was right then ;-) | 15:16 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 15:19 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, gtk 3.22.x? | 15:20 |
| ricotz | 3.22.4-1ubuntu1 includes some hidpi scale-factor fixes | 15:21 |
| tjaalton | ricotz: I had 3.22.2-0ubuntu1 | 15:21 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, I guess 3.22.4 will fix the issue you had | 15:22 |
| tjaalton | cool | 15:22 |
| tjaalton | any idea why unity-greeter doesn't list gnome available on the session list? | 15:23 |
| tjaalton | upgrade probably broke/removed something | 15:23 |
| ricotz | gnome-session is installed? | 15:25 |
| tjaalton | yep | 15:26 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, with "gnome" you mean gnome-shell? | 15:27 |
| tjaalton | yes | 15:27 |
| tjaalton | ah, it's not installed.. | 15:28 |
| tjaalton | oh right, gtk downgrade removed it hehe | 15:28 |
| ricotz | better pick 3.22.4 from proposed | 15:29 |
| ricotz | gtk+ | 15:29 |
| tjaalton | sure | 15:29 |
| tjaalton | I'll just try again tomorrow | 15:29 |
| Laney | would be good to know if it works for you | 15:30 |
| tjaalton | alright | 15:30 |
| Laney | FAIL: test_pep8_clean (test_pep8.TestPep8Clean) | 15:31 |
| * Laney stabs pep8 in testsuites | 15:31 | |
| Trevinho | didrocks: there are various repeated parts in https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml, I was wondering...Couldn't those be replicated using the - after: instead? | 16:17 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: no, the parser doesn't have support otherwise for this | 16:24 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: the repetition will be removed once we say we don't support / anymore in parts name | 16:24 |
| didrocks | but it needs proper announcement and such | 16:25 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: sure... | 16:25 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: the whole repetition is due to this namespace change transition… | 16:25 |
| Trevinho | yeah, I know... I was just wondering if there was a way to avoid it, but it seems not | 16:25 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: maybe you are right with after: but I won't test it (the server-side parser is quite hard to grasp) | 16:30 |
| didrocks | so I will just duplicate and want for it to die in a couple of months | 16:30 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yeah... Unfortunately it's not that easy to test remote parts... It would be nice to have a way to mock it | 16:30 |
| didrocks | yep! | 16:32 |
| * Trevinho looks reviewers for https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/libappindicator/incons-paths-on-snap/+merge/311424 | 16:34 | |
| Laney | isle of man parliament T _ N _ A _ D | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | Laney: 16.04.1 daily iso should it have snapd on by default? | 16:57 |
| Laney | davmor2: There's a compmonent mismatch (xdelta) so its not installable | 17:01 |
| davmor2 | Laney: ah cool thanks for a minute I thought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0 | 17:03 |
| Laney | this better be the x-files theme | 17:03 |
| Laney | close enough | 17:03 |
| ximion | Laney: the only missing bit for asgen is the "update data from old suites" feature, right? | 17:05 |
| Laney | hey ximion | 17:05 |
| Laney | missing how? | 17:05 |
| Laney | ximion: oh you mean feature requests? | 17:06 |
| Laney | that and PPAs | 17:06 |
| ximion | jup | 17:07 |
| ximion | okay, PPAs weren's supported by dep11gen as well and are a lot more work | 17:07 |
| Laney | updating wasn't either | 17:07 |
| Laney | was it? | 17:07 |
| ximion | no | 17:07 |
| ximion | updating will need changes in AppStream itself too | 17:07 |
| ximion | I haven't finalized a plan for it, but I have an idea | 17:08 |
| ximion | I need to chat with the APT guys first to see if they have a better one | 17:08 |
| Laney | you mean because of the origin? | 17:08 |
| ximion | yes, although the origin field isn't much of a problem, the duplicate IDs however are an issue | 17:09 |
| Laney | hmm | 17:09 |
| Laney | I thought dataPriority would sort that out | 17:09 |
| Laney | or Priority or whatever it's called in the spec | 17:09 |
| ximion | I am drowning in work at time, so I am currently sifting through tasks and priorizing them | 17:09 |
| Laney | anyways | 17:09 |
| Laney | if you write down your idea on the bug then I would be happy to help implementing | 17:10 |
| Laney | drowning in real work is probably good ;-) | 17:10 |
| ximion | DataPriority is super inefficient, since we read & parse & download everything and then throw everything away. We also can not delete any component that way | 17:10 |
| Laney | after ximion's world tour of 2016 | 17:10 |
| ximion | yeah... | 17:10 |
| ximion | zlatan being away and me having his managing work too doesn't exactly help ^^ | 17:11 |
| Laney | heh | 17:11 |
| Laney | I see, you might want something in the header to completely disable another file | 17:11 |
| ximion | also, lab is crazy busy, I am never home before 6 p.m. | 17:11 |
| ximion | Laney: that, *or* have the APT glue code ignore a file based on its filename, *or* have APT do that for me | 17:12 |
| ximion | the latter would prevent us from downloading needless data, which would be pretty nice | 17:12 |
| Laney | you probably want an *and* there | 17:13 |
| Laney | I think that the Endless dudes are doing something about shipping appstream post release too | 17:14 |
| Laney | sort of following what they were saying in #gnome-software aanyway | 17:14 |
| ximion | so we have logic like "if "origin-sru" file is present, do not process "origin" file" | 17:14 |
| ximion | Laney: but endless has a very different system of shipping software... | 17:14 |
| Laney | ostree-core thing | 17:14 |
| Laney | but the problem seems similar | 17:15 |
| ximion | normally, the data shipped at the time of build should be final | 17:15 |
| ximion | the only time you want to update it is if there were asgen changes and you need them in the stable suite | 17:16 |
| Laney | might want to override the description, icon, ship more translations | 17:16 |
| ximion | which should be a less and less important case, nevertheless we have this problem now | 17:16 |
| Laney | probaby the last one is the one they care about | 17:16 |
| Laney | worth chatting imho | 17:17 |
| ximion | since upstream is doing the l10n stuff in AppStream, this isn't really in its design - since you can't update the l10n data without also updating the app itself | 17:17 |
| ximion | it's pretty much a clash of the "upstream" vs the "distro" deploy model | 17:18 |
| ximion | hmm, I think at Debian l10n data is frozen together with everything else on release | 17:18 |
| ximion | so the whole archive - including l10n - becomes immutable | 17:19 |
| ximion | but I never really looked at that very closely (but since l10n works the same way AppStream does in Debian, they will have the same problems) | 17:20 |
| Laney | ximion: I think for distros (at least for us) it's an asgen bugs (or -dep11 -> asgen) use case | 17:22 |
| Laney | or if we're being ambitious maybe enabling other types | 17:22 |
| Laney | I'm saying that this other case might be useful to think about as apart of the same problem | 17:23 |
| Laney | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-software/tree/src/plugins/gs-plugin-external-appstream.c <- that thing I think | 17:23 |
| Laney | not sure how it works | 17:23 |
| Laney | thisssss wifi | 17:35 |
| * Laney should pay for tethering | 17:35 | |
| seb128 | it's ridiculous that providers block that/make it a paying option | 17:39 |
| xnox | what's blocked? | 17:40 |
| Laney | My phone does something to tell them that I'm tethering | 17:40 |
| xnox | they count the hops on the packets. | 17:41 |
| xnox | without your phone telling them. | 17:41 |
| Laney | Nope | 17:41 |
| Laney | it works if I change phones | 17:41 |
| xnox | you can root your phone and run transparent proxy on it, i think to bypass. | 17:41 |
| xnox | sigh | 17:41 |
| ximion1 | Laney: yeah, I asked richard about the polkit policy for installing AppStream data, because I found it to be really weird, and he said that it was something exclusively for endless | 17:41 |
| Laney | I think it must add another interface or something | 17:41 |
| xnox | Laney, don't you love the closed-source software defined radio stack in the phones modems?! =) | 17:41 |
| Laney | ximion1: seems weird | 17:42 |
| Laney | *but* you might care about the appstream side of it in this context | 17:42 |
| Laney | because I'm not sure what g-s is doing with these random AppStream files | 17:43 |
| ximion1 | Laney: me neither... GS is sometimes using AS in weird ways, because hughsie was/is in some "make everyone happy as soon as possible" mode :P - so at least in the past, some weirdness and workarounds were added | 17:45 |
| Laney | ximion1: that's why I'm trying to hint you over there :P | 17:46 |
| ximion1 | e.g. GS is way less sensitive about metadata collisions and just does a relatively complex merge to show as much data as possible | 17:46 |
| ximion1 | (I am not super-happy about that, since it makes finding out where data came from harder) | 17:46 |
| ximion1 | yes, the main "problem" is that people use AS in a lot of different ways, and especially for problems it was not designed to solve (e.g. a replacement for *all* package metadata) | 17:47 |
| ximion1 | I need to write more mails, more blog posts (there is still one pending on the last release...) | 17:48 |
| ximion1 | but time... | 17:48 |
| Laney | indeed | 17:52 |
| Laney | right, back in a bit | 17:52 |
| seb128 | k, calling it a day here | 17:53 |
| seb128 | have a nice evening desktopers! | 17:53 |
| seb128 | see you tomorrow | 17:53 |
| willcooke | cya seb128 | 17:53 |
| seb128 | bye willcooke | 17:53 |
| willcooke | night all | 18:16 |
| tjaalton | Laney, ricotz: looks like newer gtk fixed my bug | 18:23 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, go go mesa 13 | 18:24 |
| tjaalton | took two hours to upload.. | 18:24 |
| tjaalton | network was ba-a-a-a-d | 18:25 |
| Laney | tjaalton: good, so let's fix tests to get it to migrate ;-) | 20:41 |
| Laney | (will look tomorrow) | 20:41 |
| Laney | ximion1: btw, asgen is deployed | 20:57 |
| Laney | http://appstream.ubuntu.com/ | 20:57 |
| ximion1 | Laney: wohoo! Amazing! | 21:05 |
| ximion1 | the front-page sorting is weird, maybe I should use a sorted list as input there instead of the raw dict keys :P | 21:06 |
| ximion1 | heh, xenial even has the old html pages, nice! | 21:07 |
| ximion1 | Laney: at some point in the near future, I want to switch the .desktop file reading code to use the libas routines instead of its own implementation. I also want to make the archive-handling code refcounted instead of GC managed | 21:11 |
| ximion1 | both changes are big and have a high regression potential - the first one might make your langpack stuff harder, but I'll need to look into that - it could also just require very minor adjustments | 21:12 |
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