| OerHeks | Bashing-om, i still wonder about that cat /etc/lsb-release.dpkg-dist , http://paste.ubuntu.com/23519642/ | 01:35 |
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| Bashing-om | OerHeks: Yeah, got me too .. as I ran it in 14.04 .., DNE . | 01:50 |
| Bashing-om | One thing about working support, we often wind up with more questions than we answer :) | 02:01 |
| OerHeks | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-22/no-evidence-of-aloe-vera-found-in-the-aloe-vera-at-wal-mart-cvs | 02:07 |
| OerHeks | #aloeveragate | 02:07 |
| Bashing-om | Now why Am I Not surprised - truth in advertising - NOT . | 02:09 |
| daftykins | aloe aloe aloe, said the policeman investigating ;) | 02:26 |
| Bashing-om | There is something vera wrong here . | 02:27 |
| daftykins | :D | 02:29 |
| Bashing-om | Boy, an hour on the channel, with no activity .. times are getting hard for us volunteers :( | 03:10 |
| daftykins | best break a few installs so you have something to fix! | 03:14 |
| OerHeks | add a lot of ppa's | 03:14 |
| daftykins | ooh and then hit upgrade! | 03:16 |
| Bashing-om | OH .. It took me the longest to learn not to do that ! | 03:16 |
| OerHeks | -d | 03:16 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 06:07 |
| Wirehunter | lotuspsychje, Good afternoon | 06:19 |
| daftykins | hallo \o | 06:20 |
| lotuspsychje | hey daftykins | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Wirehunter | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | its rainy here | 06:22 |
| daftykins | d'aww, i hear nothing atm | 06:24 |
| daftykins | and no light! | 06:24 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 06:29 |
| lotuspsychje | anyone knows a lightweight browser that doesnt get that cpu is too old warning? | 06:40 |
| lotuspsychje | its for an old acer laptop | 06:40 |
| lotuspsychje | tested chrome,firefox and opera, they all got that warning | 06:43 |
| ducasse | hi all | 07:13 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse | 07:19 |
| ducasse | good morning, lotuspsychje - how is life? | 07:21 |
| lotuspsychje | great here mate, day off xmass shopping today :p | 07:21 |
| ducasse | aha, i'm thinking of doing that tomorrow. | 07:22 |
| lotuspsychje | too avoid the mass crowds :p | 07:25 |
| ducasse | i hate that too, i usually try to get it over with early. | 07:26 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: great idea :p | 07:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: laterz mate and have a nice day | 07:30 |
| ducasse | you too, lotuspsychje - talk later | 07:31 |
| lotuspsychje | one day we will have a normal conversation lol | 07:31 |
| ducasse | :) | 07:31 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:37 |
| daftykins | good morning \o | 11:37 |
| ducasse | o/ | 11:38 |
| daftykins | ah hey ducasse \o | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | "Morning daftykinsm ducasse | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | er daftykins | 11:39 |
| ducasse | sun and warm today, almost all the snow is gone \o/ | 11:41 |
| daftykins | so soon! :) | 11:41 |
| ducasse | i'm sure there will be lots more :( | 11:42 |
| daftykins | postie brought me Fallout 4 today, cost me all of £12.50 | 11:42 |
| ducasse | that's not bad at all. | 11:43 |
| daftykins | quite amusing because it's a DVD copy, but it has a steam key - so it can copy over 4.5GB then download the remaining 20GB :D | 11:44 |
| ducasse | duh! | 11:44 |
| daftykins | apparently it was a pirating measure | 11:44 |
| daftykins | er anti-pirating even :) | 11:44 |
| ducasse | lol | 11:44 |
| daftykins | YARR! | 11:45 |
| ducasse | drm sucks, in any case. thankfully it seems a lot of people are starting to realize that now. | 11:46 |
| daftykins | i've heard the argument that it makes more sense to buy a games console as a bluray player now, because they can keep releasing fixes for the app e.g. on the xbox one, instead of firmware updates for a consumer player | 11:47 |
| daftykins | makes a lot of sense | 11:47 |
| ducasse | it does. i had a standalone bluray player, but gave it away. still have a bluray writer in my desktop, handy sometimes. | 11:49 |
| ducasse | daftykins: do you know much about arm boards? | 11:52 |
| daftykins | no sir | 11:52 |
| ducasse | me nether. just looking at what is available, but i don't know which are any good. | 11:54 |
| ducasse | *neither | 11:54 |
| daftykins | what's the task? | 11:55 |
| ducasse | i want a light desktop with low power consumption and minimal space requirements for my living room. | 11:56 |
| ducasse | just for web, mail, irc etc | 11:56 |
| daftykins | i'm waiting to see prices on the intel atom apollo lake type NUCs | 11:56 |
| daftykins | those'll be #1 HTPCs and fit that role well :) | 11:57 |
| daftykins | full 10-bit HEVC decode and encode support to boot! | 11:57 |
| ducasse | oooh, i'd lov a nuc | 11:57 |
| ducasse | not now, though, looking for an amplifier and that's the budget-buster for this month :) | 11:59 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 12:00 |
| daftykins | stereo musics only? | 12:00 |
| daftykins | still enjoying my NAD :> | 12:00 |
| daftykins | i really wish the PSU in it didn't give an idle whine though, i have it run overnight so i wake up to internet radio - bit less than ideal, but bearable | 12:01 |
| ducasse | yes, just stereo. i'm looking at a nice one with built-in dac from a local shop, since i'll mainly be using it to play flac and mp3 | 12:01 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 12:02 |
| daftykins | did y'hear about what.cd? :( | 12:02 |
| daftykins | very sad times | 12:02 |
| ducasse | taken down? never used it. | 12:02 |
| daftykins | ah, twas a thing of beauty | 12:02 |
| ducasse | i'm still angry about kat :( | 12:03 |
| daftykins | *shrug* dirty public ones are a dime a dozen :) | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, what kind of amp are you looking at? | 12:04 |
| ducasse | local company | 12:04 |
| ducasse | it's quite small and not very powerful, but i don't need much. it just has two digital inputs and one analog, which is perfect for me. | 12:06 |
| daftykins | sounds good | 12:06 |
| daftykins | 18 mins to download Fallout still, my my | 12:07 |
| daftykins | 5MB/sec and it's still not enough ;) | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | my HK receiver is rated at only 40W RMS/ch and it can play plenty loud with the Paradigm speakers | 12:07 |
| ducasse | i'll combine it with a raspberry pi and mpd, voila music player :) | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | right | 12:08 |
| ducasse | thos is just 20, i think, but it will drive my kef bookshelf speakers. | 12:08 |
| ducasse | i *could* also get an analog nad or something with more watts, but then i'll need a separate dac at some point | 12:09 |
| BluesKaj | KEF used to be a real power eaters back in the day | 12:10 |
| * daftykins has a pi in the lounge feeding his Onkyo AVR over HDMI | 12:10 | |
| BluesKaj | serarate dacs aren't worth the money if you're going t listen to streaming audio | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | separate | 12:11 |
| daftykins | well he mentioned FLAC so all is well :D | 12:12 |
| daftykins | can get some nice 24 bit 96kHz vinyl ripped stuff in FLAC | 12:12 |
| ducasse | not streaming, files. mostly flac or apple lossless. | 12:12 |
| daftykins | eww ALAC, get out :) | 12:12 |
| ducasse | that's the minority :) | 12:13 |
| daftykins | must say a certain digit of mine was extended when i first saw a clients iTunes wanting to convert FLAC to ALAC | 12:13 |
| ducasse | some of the ones i didn't rip myself, so to speak :) | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | I've converted all my FLACs to wav ...less processing needed | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | no need for any kind of compression, lossless or not nowadays | 12:16 |
| ducasse | flac shouldn't be a problem for an rpi2, i'd guess. | 12:16 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: are you using your rpi to play them? through what software? | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | thinking of connecting the rpi to a monitor and speaker system in the den/office | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, no the media HTPC has an outboard drive with all the media on it | 12:20 |
| ducasse | ah, ok. and that runs kodi? | 12:20 |
| BluesKaj | yes, I have kodi on both the HTPC and the rpi | 12:21 |
| daftykins | FLAC is about having the metadata though | 12:22 |
| daftykins | useless playing wav and having none :> | 12:22 |
| ducasse | i hope to avoid a display on mine, so mpd looks like the best choice | 12:22 |
| ducasse | good point | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | I need to do rearranging in my den to set the rpi up properly, just have to get off my butt to do it :-) | 12:23 |
| ducasse | hehe, familiar problem :) i've been meaning to clear up cables etc around the routers for weeks now :) | 12:25 |
| BluesKaj | heh, there'a little more than just a few cables deal witrh in my case | 12:27 |
| ducasse | then you are more justified than i am :) | 12:27 |
| ducasse | i also need to replace the root disk in my server, but actually doing it is a major hassle... | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | bookshelves full of outdated apps etc on cds and dvds and old stereo amps and other junk that has to be thown out or recycled | 12:29 |
| ducasse | sounds fun | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, wife has been after me for weeks now to clear it out | 12:32 |
| BluesKaj | now that winter is settling in I'll have time | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | looking forward to new setup though | 12:34 |
| ducasse | i've got a small storage room where i keep the server and lots of junk. it'd be nice to clear that out and get stuff properly on shelves etc. | 12:35 |
| lotuspsychje | good afternoon to all | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | hi lotuspsychje | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there BluesKaj | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | hey pauljw | 15:07 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj :) | 15:08 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 15:08 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pauljw | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | you guys experienced that cpu too old error on any browser yet on old machines? | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | forgot its name | 15:11 |
| pauljw | not yet, what's old? | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | ive tested opera, firefox, IE and chrome, all gave me that error | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | pauljw: acer laptop | 15:12 |
| lotuspsychje | aspire older type, not sure wich cpu anymore | 15:13 |
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| lotuspsychje | i should have written it down | 15:14 |
| pauljw | well, i have a 2011 Acer AspireOne w/Intel Atom dual core processor that I just fired up and Firefox is working just fine, no errors. | 15:15 |
| lotuspsychje | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/your-hardware-no-longer-supported | 15:16 |
| lotuspsychje | think thats the warning i had | 15:16 |
| pauljw | hmmm | 15:16 |
| lotuspsychje | so many machines have p4 or lower right | 15:16 |
| daftykins | Pentium M perhaps? :) | 15:17 |
| daftykins | also hi \o | 15:17 |
| lotuspsychje | hey daftykins | 15:17 |
| pauljw | hi daftykins | 15:18 |
| pauljw | yeah, lotuspsychje, i don't know where the Atom processor falls in modernity of cpu's. | 15:18 |
| lotuspsychje | so i guess an older browser would do the trick.. | 15:18 |
| daftykins | there are quite a number of them (atoms) | 15:18 |
| lotuspsychje | but then safety of the browser lacks | 15:19 |
| daftykins | you can't run an older browser though chief, once Mozilla have given up it's irresponsible to use it online - time to ditch it | 15:19 |
| lotuspsychje | so i thought | 15:19 |
| pauljw | mine is running FF 50.0 fully up to date on xubuntu 16.04 | 15:20 |
| pauljw | lucky for me i guess... | 15:20 |
| daftykins | :) | 15:20 |
| lotuspsychje | it was on a w7 acer aspire, lubuntu didnt like the machine lol | 15:21 |
| lotuspsychje | so i couldnt test chromium | 15:21 |
| daftykins | hmm can't have come with 7 | 15:21 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: no it came with ME, but i putted 7 on it | 15:22 |
| daftykins | from the factory i mean | 15:22 |
| daftykins | oooooouch! :) | 15:22 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:22 |
| pauljw | oh, must be a bit older than mine, mine had win7 starter originally. | 15:22 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah if lubuntu cant run it...its very ancient :p | 15:22 |
| daftykins | well you guys know my feelings, lubuntu does not polish a turd - some have to be let go | 15:22 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:23 |
| pauljw | lol | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: ! never throw away a working box | 15:23 |
| daftykins | sir i gave away core 2 duo laptops with 4GB RAM and SSDs :) | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | i would rather make it a calculator pc out of it, then throw it away | 15:23 |
| daftykins | but then they said they might find their way to Africa if they couldn't be used | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | loll | 15:23 |
| ducasse | hi lotuspsychje - finished xmas shopping? :) | 15:24 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: yeah mate, we found quiet a bit today | 15:24 |
| lotuspsychje | not all, but the booze and some gifts | 15:24 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:25 |
| * lotuspsychje wants a retro atari for xmass to play pong | 15:25 | |
| ducasse | daftykins: what do you think about this? https://www.amazon.com/Musical-Fidelity-V90-AMP-USB-Integrated/dp/B00H54F9R8 | 15:26 |
| daftykins | hmm totally beyond my skill set i'm afraid | 15:27 |
| daftykins | says made in england though, so it can't be snake oil ;) | 15:27 |
| lotuspsychje | me neither | 15:27 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: whats the purpose gonna be? | 15:28 |
| ducasse | well - amplifier for playing music :) from rpi, probably, mainly flac. | 15:28 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 15:31 |
| lotuspsychje | we are thinking of buying a portable internet radio | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | to play everywhere in our new house | 15:34 |
| daftykins | o0 | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | both wifi and cable would be nice | 15:35 |
| lotuspsychje | and usb support of course | 15:35 |
| ducasse | when these things have usb ports, do they function basically as an external sound card? | 15:36 |
| daftykins | think so | 15:37 |
| ducasse | aaargh! incoming attention-seeking fur missile! | 15:38 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: anyone we know? | 15:38 |
| ducasse | she jumped up behind the laptop and tried to hang on to tne screen :) | 15:39 |
| lotuspsychje | heeere kitty | 15:39 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:42 |
| ducasse | ok, so i'll need drivers to use usb? not that big a deal since it has optical, i guess. | 15:43 |
| daftykins | Mischief says "i could do that but i'm too busy enjoying grooms" http://i.imgur.com/1Fuu02I.jpg | 15:43 |
| lotuspsychje | cool pic :p | 15:44 |
| ducasse | d'awww | 15:44 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:44 |
| ducasse | i tried to take a oic of her now, but that was _not_ acceptable :) | 15:46 |
| ducasse | *pic | 15:46 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:48 |
| lotuspsychje | !info xpra | 16:45 |
| ubot5` | xpra (source: xpra): tool to detach/reattach running X programs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15.8+dfsg-1 (xenial), package size 1046 kB, installed size 4717 kB | 16:45 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 16:45 |
| lotuspsychje | never heard of it | 16:45 |
| ducasse | can be handy | 16:46 |
| lotuspsychje | i loved sux, too bad they depraced it | 16:47 |
| lotuspsychje | !info sux precise | 16:47 |
| ubot5` | sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-6 (precise), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB | 16:47 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: what do you think about this? https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater/receivers/avrx1000 | 16:48 |
| lotuspsychje | lemme check | 16:48 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: lookin neat! | 16:49 |
| ducasse | i thought so too. more expensive than intended, but i can get it brand new for about $200-250 | 16:50 |
| lotuspsychje | ethernet and internet radio i like | 16:50 |
| lotuspsychje | services like spotify and apps support, not so much..but i guess all devices are trying to these days | 16:51 |
| ducasse | don't need that, but it has hdmi, coax/spdif etc | 16:51 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah basics are great | 16:52 |
| ducasse | a bit overkill, really, but... *shrug* :) | 16:53 |
| ducasse | oooh! network controllable, i just *know* there will be a linux client on github :D | 16:56 |
| lotuspsychje | ;p | 16:56 |
| lotuspsychje | https://www.lifewire.com/best-home-theater-starter-kits-to-buy-4062692 | 16:58 |
| ducasse | home theater isn't really what i need, all i care about is audio :) the hdmi part is just a bonus, since there are so few hdmi ports on most tv's. | 17:00 |
| ducasse | installation finished \o/ | 17:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: the receiver only then? | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | omg http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model.php?m=TX-RZ3100&class=Receiver&source=prodClass 3199$ | 17:03 |
| ducasse | that's $3000 more than what i'm looking at :) | 17:04 |
| ducasse | it looks *nice*, though :) | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:05 |
| ducasse | arch now installed on desktop, think i'll wait until the morning to reboot :) | 17:07 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 17:07 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: http://www.themasterswitch.com/best-av-receivers | 17:08 |
| ducasse | jeez, NixkorN has just been behaving like a total asshole this whole day | 17:08 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i also dont like BT as connectivity on such devices | 17:13 |
| ducasse | i don't see the point of it :) | 17:14 |
| lotuspsychje | audio in/out, eth and usb :p | 17:15 |
| lotuspsychje | and hdmi of course | 17:15 |
| ducasse | i basically just want a nice amp, but one with built-in dac and digital inputs. the denon thingy looks like the best i can get for my money, and will also be decent for a home theater setup if i ever want one. | 17:17 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah denon looks pretty neat | 17:17 |
| ducasse | it's a woman seling them, not far from me. she said it's just been sitting in the box, never opened. | 17:19 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 17:20 |
| lotuspsychje | then plugin a nice bredsbandbolaget in it :p | 17:20 |
| ducasse | now he's rude to you, too. | 17:21 |
| lotuspsychje | ill sack him pretty soon :p | 17:21 |
| ducasse | :) | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | yes ducasse, denon is decent quality equipment | 17:28 |
| ducasse | i know, this looks like a decent choice that is somewhat future-proof for my needs. | 17:29 |
| ducasse | think i'll call tomorrow. | 17:29 |
| BluesKaj | I've had my HK since 2008 and it hasn't missed a beat ....knocks on wood :-) | 17:31 |
| ducasse | it usually pays to buy good-quality stuff. the only thing this lacks is preout, but that's not a big issue with my economy :) | 17:32 |
| BluesKaj | but I've had 3 other HK receivers and amps over the yrs, eventually they all get old and caps dry out etc | 17:32 |
| ducasse | eventually, but that can be a long time. a friend of mine is still using his nad 3020, that must be 20 years old. | 17:33 |
| BluesKaj | my Heathkit AA29 that I put together as a kit back in 1972 still runs well, a little noisy when switching sources, but otherwise sounds great | 17:36 |
| BluesKaj | outlasted all the Harman Kardon stuff | 17:38 |
| BluesKaj | ok, gotta run a few errands ...BBL | 17:39 |
| ducasse | ttyl BluesKaj | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | same here movietime guys | 17:40 |
| pauljw | :) | 17:40 |
| ducasse | ♫ 99 little trolls on the wall, 99 little trolls... ♫ | 18:04 |
| BluesKaj | tomtegubbar :-) | 19:28 |
| ducasse | :) | 19:30 |
| ducasse | this was a nasty one, though. a tomte is usually friendly :) | 19:31 |
| lotuspsychje | cheers guys, have a good troll night :p | 19:31 |
| lotuspsychje | movie nr 2 here :p | 19:31 |
| ducasse | you too, lotuspsychje. might order a pizza here before night :) | 19:32 |
| lotuspsychje | yummy | 19:32 |
| lotuspsychje | laterz ; ) | 19:32 |
| romelios | hola | 20:18 |
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