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minasotaOmnifrog: nicely played, sir. Btw, are you retired? :)00:20
Omnifrognope. I have a "non-traditional" occupation00:48
Omnifrog[Ubik], I was almost able to cancel the closing meeting of the last house purchasing email non-sense00:50
OmnifrogI repeatedly replied to the Realtor that they had the wrong email address. They didn't ever take any action00:52
Omnifrogfinally on the night before closing I told em... you know what? fuck it. I don't want the house00:52
Omnifrogcancel everything00:53
Omnifrognever heard back from them again00:53
minasotaIs it concerning to you that, your email is associated with all this?01:04
minasotaI can understand fat fingering a key or two and getting the wrong email addr but, you seem to be associated with a lot of potential home buyers :)01:06
OmnifrogI get a lot of OOPs mail01:11
Omnifrogbut they are all due to people that share my exact first/last name01:12
OmnifrogI get monthly car insurance statements01:12
Omnifrogonce I even took over a guys domain names and hosting provider01:13
minasotaWhat goes around, comes around...01:13
Omnifrogthe "forgot password" link allowed me to figure out whats going on01:14
Omnifrogoh, I'm not a dick01:14
OmnifrogI thought at first that it was someone trying to take over MY domains01:14
Omnifrogthe email said my domains were about to expire and that I needed to "click here"01:15
Omnifrogso I copied the URL and edited it to get to the sites home page01:16
Omnifrogtried to log in, and "recovered lost password"01:17
Omnifrogonce I was in I found the guys contact info01:17
Omnifrogthat was a weird as fuck phone call01:17
Omnifroghi, is this [my name]?01:18
Omnifrogyes01:18
Omnifrogah, well hi, this is [my name]01:18
Omnifrogfunny thing happened today01:19
Omnifroglol01:19
Omnifrogof course I gave him all the info to regain control of his accounts01:20
Omnifrogthe problem is gmail01:20
Omnifrogand how it handles dots01:21
Omnifrog"."01:21
Omnifrogjoe.blow is the same to gmail servers as joeblow01:22
Omnifrogalso the same as joe..blow01:23
Omnifrogso all the joe.m.blow's who mistype and leave out the middle initial get redirected to the earliest created joeblow/joe.blow account01:26
minasotabut not the same as joe<dot>blow01:27
Omnifrogare < allowed in user names ?01:27
minasotano01:28
OmnifrogI'm not really worried about it01:29
minasotabut if you ever publish your email, using "dot" instead of "." helps.01:29
OmnifrogI'm a good person. I wont ever screw anyone over01:29
OmnifrogI will have fun with it every now and then though01:30
Omnifrogtrying to explain situations like this to people on the phone is REALLY weird though01:31
Omnifrogthey see you as a con and a threat from the very start01:32
Omnifrogeven if all you are doing is trying to help them01:32
minasotaJust take care of it behind the scenes. Secure what you find is vulnerable and move along ;)01:33
Omnifrogbut how do you do that if you are already in01:33
Omnifrogthinking you are looking into a threat to yourself01:34
Omnifrogwhen I clicked "forgot password" I just wanted to see what happened01:35
Omnifrogbut it changed the password in the process01:35
Omnifrogso now I was the only one with the password to his account01:35
OmnifrogI had no choice but to contact him01:36
minasotaMaybe next time don't go so far? Contact the service and explain what you found and let them handle it?01:38
Omnifrogcall tech support?01:38
Omnifrogwhere I would have to authenticate my identity01:39
Omnifrog...01:39
Omnifrog>.>01:39
minasotaFor all they know, you were trying to gain access, got scared and tried to cover yourself by saying "I was only trying to help" You know what I mean?01:39
Omnifrogby leaving them out of it I fixed the problem with no wait time litening to musak01:40
Omnifrogconvincing the hosting company would be a lot harder than convincing the owner01:41
minasotaNot your problem... Busybody :P01:41
Omnifrogkeep in mind, I wasnt trying to take over someones domain01:42
OmnifrogI was trying to figure out who was trying to take over MINE!01:42
OmnifrogI didn't know what was really up until I was already in control of the account01:43
Omnifrogby that point I was like... of shit01:44
Omnifrogoh*01:44
minasotaSecure your side of the street... Forget about "who" is doing what to you. Hell, man you could spend all day chasing down "who" is trying to get into your stuff01:44
Omnifrogalso, if I had just deleted the email his domains would have expired01:44
Omnifrog30 days later his sites would have been deleted01:46
minasotaNot likely. Sounds like you got targeted, just saying01:47
Omnifrogtargeted ?01:47
Omnifrogby an email typo?01:47
minasotaIt most likely wasn't a typo01:47
OmnifrogI don't understand01:48
minasotaOk, say you have an account with some <whatever service>. They send you reminders, alerts etc right?01:49
Omnifrogyeah01:49
minasotaThose are automatic, your email doesn't change, you follow? So what is the likely hood that the <service above> suddenly sends the routine reminder, alert etc to the wrong email address?01:51
minasotaRare01:52
OmnifrogI really was able to log into the hosting provider though01:53
Omnifrogand the persol info on the account was real01:53
Omnifrogand the persons web site actually existed01:53
OmnifrogI checked01:53
minasotaI understand... I don't think I'm explaining this well01:54
Omnifrogand whois confirmed it01:54
minasotaThe email that was sent to you was not a mistake01:54
minasotaIt was not an error01:54
Omnifrogerr...01:55
minasotaIt wasn't intended for someone else and ended up in your inbox because of username similarities01:55
Omnifrog...ok01:56
OmnifrogI agree that it was misdirected email01:57
minasotaIt was an INTENTIONAL misdirected email...01:57
Omnifroghow so?01:58
Omnifrogand why?01:58
Omnifrogto what end?01:58
minasotaI explained it above. Think about it. Anyway, I'm off to bed. Have a good night Omnifrog01:59
Omnifrogok, sleep well minasota01:59

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