[05:56] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:09] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro Cryterion paddatrapper and others
[06:16] <superfly> Hi thatgraemeguy, Kilos 
[06:16] <paddatrapper> Morning oom Kilos, superfly
[06:16] <paddatrapper> thatgraemeguy: hey
[06:16] <superfly> Morning paddatrapper, thought I heard you earlier 
[06:17] <chesedo> morning thatgraemeguy Kilos superfly paddatrapper and all others
[06:17] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[06:17] <superfly> Hi chesedo 
[06:18] <chesedo> how are you guys doing?
[06:18] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[06:18] <superfly> Sleepy
[06:19] <superfly> *yawn*
[06:19] <Kilos> lol
[06:20] <chesedo> also good ty
[06:31] <paddatrapper> chesedo: morning. I could do with some more sleep
[06:32] <chesedo> lol
[06:33] <chesedo> that seems to be a cpt laid-back issue
[06:33]  * chesedo will therefor not admit his sleepiness
[06:35] <superfly> Coffee time! 
[06:35] <chesedo> Maaz: put on the kettle
[06:35] <Maaz> chesedo: What?
[06:35] <chesedo> Maaz: flip the switch
[06:35] <Maaz> chesedo: What?
[06:36] <superfly> Maaz: coffee on
[06:36]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:37] <chesedo> it is clear that i never drink coffee :P
[06:39] <superfly> Maaz: coffee please
[06:39] <Maaz> superfly: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[06:39] <nsnzero> morning all
[06:40] <chesedo> lol
[06:40] <chesedo> morning nsnzero
[06:40] <superfly> Morning nsnzero 
[06:40] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for superfly!
[06:50] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[06:54] <nsnzero> kilos how are you ?
[07:15] <Kilos> ok ty nsnzero andyou?
[07:17] <nsnzero> year end is stressfull time for me but have to cope
[07:18] <nsnzero> i heard about your incident - glad you are doing well 
[07:22] <Kilos> ty
[07:38] <Symmetria> sup
[07:42] <nsnzero> hi
[07:43] <Symmetria> heh, wheee, my power backup upgrade arrives this afternoon 
[07:43] <Symmetria> just in time for me to plug in my new monster machine tomorrow
[07:44] <nsnzero> what hardware you packing ?
[07:44] <Symmetria> heh new machine arriving tomorrow is....
[07:45] <Symmetria> 64gigs of DDR 3333mhz ram, a 6700K cpu, 8 x 8TB HGST drives, 1 x 512gig NVME M.2 disk for operating system
[07:45] <Symmetria> a GTX1080p video card 
[07:45] <Symmetria> and 4 x 43" 4K displays 
[07:45] <Symmetria> and a LSI 12gigabit/second raid controller 
[07:46] <Symmetria> oh and a dual port 10G ethernet card
[07:46] <Symmetria> heh, there are only 3 possible upgrades on that system, one is the video card where I could have gone titan-x, wasn't worth it, one is on the drives, where I could have gone 10TB disks, wasn't worth the cost, and the other is on the CPU - and the only CPU upgrade beyond the 6700K was more thousands of dollars than I was willing to spend
[07:48] <nsnzero> what are you building ? a skynet clone ?
[07:49] <Symmetria> hahaha supplementing my current system
[07:49] <Symmetria> ran outta disk space :( 
[07:49] <Symmetria> and had no way to connect more disk space without an entire new system
[07:50] <MaNI> you could always get some pci sata controllers and shove another 8 disks
[07:51] <Symmetria> Mani heh can't - no more slots on the motherboard
[07:51] <Symmetria> heh current 2 machines are full - I've got 10G NIC's in them and 8 channel raid controllers
[07:51] <MaNI> ahh
[07:54] <Symmetria> heh, I'm running 160T at the moment
[07:54] <Symmetria> this will push me over 200 
[07:55] <Symmetria> as I said :) I was outta options
[08:02] <nsnzero> thats an awesome build you have 
[09:29] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos, how are you?
[10:20] <Kilos> im ok ty nlsthzn . getting ready for bed now. dreading the long flight back to za on monday
[10:20] <Kilos> and 4 hours in abu dabi
[10:21] <Kilos> night all. have a good day
[10:21] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[10:35] <nlsthzn> Maaz: tell kilos pity you can't get out of the airport in abu dhabi, could have said hi
[10:35] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[11:42] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: check out Symmetria's rig.
[13:37] <Sxuza> hi all 
[17:27] <theblazehen> Channel's gotten quiet..
[17:39] <nsnzero> make some noise 
[17:58] <theblazehen> nsnzero: I'd rather make signal :)
[18:03] <nsnzero> lol
[18:03] <nsnzero> sorry went to wash dishes 
[18:06] <nsnzero> anyone use python ?
[18:06] <Cryterion> not really, but post your problem anyway
[18:07] <nsnzero> Cryterion: no problem - just checking for fellow programmers
[18:07] <theblazehen> A bit, but not a dev really, just script a bit
[18:07] <Cryterion> maaz: tell ThatGraemeGuy can't connect to mt server due a password request, although keys allow connection
[18:07] <Maaz> Cryterion: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[18:08] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Try superfly and kbmonkey iirc
[18:08] <theblazehen> maaz seen kbmonkey
[18:08] <Maaz> theblazehen: kbmonkey was last seen 21 hours and 39 minutes ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-11-22 22:29:10 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-11-23 15:17:41 SAST
[18:08]  * superfly hears his name being mentioned
[18:08] <superfly> ohi Cryterion
[18:08] <Cryterion> heya superfly
[18:08] <superfly> nsnzero: yes, I use Python
[18:08] <nsnzero> hi there guys
[18:08] <Cryterion> ad theblazehen
[18:09]  * Cryterion got everyone awake
[18:09] <theblazehen> hey Cryterion 
[18:09] <superfly> Cryterion: not a bad thing ;-)
[18:09] <Cryterion> at least I'm doing something good :)
[18:11] <nsnzero> superfly: i am just learning the tkinter library - its pythons gui library for those not in the know 
[18:11] <superfly> nsnzero: don't bother with it, just used PyQt5
[18:11] <superfly> *use
[18:12] <Cryterion> hmm, and I'm still fighting getting qt running on a raspberry, grrr
[18:12] <superfly> Cryterion: which distro are you using?
[18:12] <theblazehen> superfly: Easier than html + css? (I know python is easier than js)
[18:12] <superfly> theblazehen: eh... they are totally different
[18:13] <Cryterion> currently ubuntu 14.04 with the RPI2 using raspbian
[18:13] <superfly> theblazehen: html+css is a little more like writing the instructions to draw the button, whereas Qt gives you a button without caring about drawing it
[18:13] <superfly> Cryterion: I thought Raspian came with Qt already installed?
[18:13] <nsnzero> superfly: i will look into that
[18:13] <superfly> In fact, I know it does. I ran OpenLP on it back in the day
[18:13] <theblazehen> superfly: Right. I meant in terms of overall work, how easy it is to define the layout basically
[18:14] <superfly> theblazehen: probably slightly easier in Qt
[18:14] <Cryterion> no doesn't, qt is now at 5.7, and most tutorials are still at 5.5/6, compile problems
[18:14] <theblazehen> superfly: Alrightm ty
[18:14] <theblazehen> s/m/,/
[18:15] <Cryterion> I've seen qt advertises the python side with everything else
[18:15] <superfly> theblazehen: you can use Designer to start, and then transpile that XML to Python and tweak things in Python
[18:15] <Cryterion> and is a prerequisite for it to work properly
[18:15] <superfly> Cryterion: There's PySide, and PyQt. PyQt is the more mature project
[18:16] <theblazehen> superfly: How about dynamic kind of things? Eg adding a <dev> in html
[18:16] <nsnzero> Cryterion: i having the same problem with python 3 , almost evrything out is python 2
[18:16] <superfly> theblazehen: you can add stuff dynamically. that's basically what happens when you change the XML to Python
[18:16] <theblazehen> superfly: Alright, will check it out then. Ty
[18:16] <Cryterion> nsnzero just a start point to try look for info, www.ics.com
[18:17] <Cryterion> some blogs on there to use qt with most things
[18:17] <superfly> theblazehen: my OpenLP project uses PyQt5, and we have a plugin system, and that allows you to add certain GUI elements dynamically
[18:18] <Cryterion> I can't get a start base to build, that's my problem atm
[18:19] <nsnzero> Cryterion: thanks i will check it out 
[18:20] <superfly> Cryterion: sorry, what are you trying to build?
[18:20] <superfly> also, 98% of my Python 3 is identical to my Python 2, so I'm not entirely sure what the problem is...?
[18:21] <tumbleweed> :)
[18:22] <superfly> ohi tumbleweed
[18:22] <tumbleweed> hi superfly. You settled into Trump-land yet?
[18:22] <nsnzero> superfly : not all libraries used in the tuts have been ported to 3 
[18:22] <superfly> tumbleweed: negative. Interview with the consulate in Joburg on the 8th, and hoping to be in Trump-land before Christmas.
[18:22] <tumbleweed> :)
[18:23] <Cryterion> superfly https://www.ics.com/blog/configuring-qt-creator-raspberry-pi, for some reason, some of the source files are missing when compiling
[18:23] <tumbleweed> just in time to catch the last bit of Obama-land
[18:23] <superfly> tumbleweed: indeed...
[18:23] <Cryterion> Trump-land will be very different to Obama-land
[18:25] <MaNI> or exactly the same, guess we will see next year :)
[18:25] <Cryterion> well, jan 27th is his start
[18:25]  * tumbleweed flew out on election night. And just got back yesterday. I've already had several long Trup conversations :/
[18:26] <Cryterion> he's going to bring them change, I believe, and that's what they need
[18:27] <MaNI> wouldn't be so sure
[18:27] <superfly> Obama promised lots of change, and never got to implement much of it
[18:27] <superfly> so yeah, all the politicians promise that
[18:28] <MaNI> also the huge groups of people who seem to think he is 'not part of the system' are IMO massively deluding themselves
[18:28] <Cryterion> we can only see, maybe the shadow gov gets control again
[18:28] <superfly> Cryterion: which source files are missing, btw?
[18:29] <theblazehen> https://xkcd.com/1274/
[18:29] <Cryterion> The Simpson predicted this event in 2000 btw
[18:29] <MaNI> rage agaisnt the machine called it sooner :p
[18:30] <Cryterion> I'll have to start the compile again superfly, and take screen shot to get back there
[18:30] <MaNI> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w211KOQ5BMI < check at 1:04
[18:30] <Cryterion> Bart to the future episode was a year out, map has only one state different
[18:35] <Cryterion> MaNi interesting
[18:41] <nsnzero> is there a good ide for pyqt5 ?
[18:41] <nsnzero> visual basic spolied me from text based ide's
[18:53] <Cryterion> haven't tried the latest qt5 yet, as still problems stabilising it, but you could try code:blocks
[18:54] <nsnzero> i have been fighting with eric6 for awhile and to my surprise it has a qt5 designer 
[18:54] <nsnzero> but i cant get it to work as yet 
[19:00] <nsnzero> good night all
[19:00] <theblazehen> cheers nsnzero 
[19:08] <kulelu88> Python has spoiled me from trying to understand how Go compiles code only if your code has a certain directory structure 0.o
[19:09] <Cryterion> kulelu88, as far as I know, you don't compile Python
[19:09] <kulelu88> Cryterion: semantics :P
[19:14] <theblazehen> Cryterion: Well, _technically_, yes _you_ don't compile python, but the interpreter does. (Seen .pyc files?)
[19:57] <theblazehen> test message
[20:02] <Cryterion> test passed
[20:02] <theblazehen> ty Cryterion
[20:02] <Cryterion> no prob
[20:23] <theblazehen> de
[20:23] <theblazehen> ^ test of thing as well