| Trioxin | here's a question if anyone wants some points https://askubuntu.com/questions/852907/autostart-gui-app-as-root-without-adding-logged-in-user-to-wheel | 00:25 |
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| valorie | you can have multiple panels, and I believe the settings for each are separate | 00:28 |
| === dyson is now known as Guest23629 | ||
| glmvn | hello everyone | 02:40 |
| [Relic] | Is there some way of stopping 16.10 task manager from sorting windows alphabetically when set to "do not sort"? | 02:47 |
| [Relic] | FF taskbar items bounce around a lot if you open in new window rather than new tab | 02:48 |
| OCNIOZ | Hello! I could use some help with the built in messenger program on Kubuntu, every time I click on Google to try to set up my hangouts account nothing happens | 03:07 |
| OCNIOZ | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-telepathy-0-9/ already tried what that page says | 03:08 |
| === dyson is now known as Guest96372 | ||
| OCNIOZ | Anyone? | 03:23 |
| OCNIOZ | Hmmmm | 03:37 |
| valorie | OCNIOZ: telepathy is no longer being developed | 03:37 |
| valorie | unfortunately | 03:37 |
| valorie | I believe we pulled it from the last ISO | 03:37 |
| OCNIOZ | Oh... so there is no way I can get it working with Google? | 03:37 |
| OCNIOZ | Ahhhhh | 03:37 |
| valorie | if we didn't, we should have | 03:38 |
| OCNIOZ | If it was pulled it was pulled : | 03:38 |
| valorie | well, some people have said that they got it working | 03:38 |
| valorie | but mostly I hear complaints | 03:38 |
| OCNIOZ | Ah. Any idea what those who claim it is working have done? | 03:38 |
| valorie | google and fb both changed their api or closed them | 03:38 |
| OCNIOZ | OH | 03:38 |
| valorie | I don't, and gave up myself | 03:39 |
| OCNIOZ | Any suggestions on a google hangouts alternative solution then? | 03:39 |
| valorie | :( | 03:39 |
| valorie | if I have to use it, I use chromium or chrome | 03:39 |
| valorie | sorry to say | 03:39 |
| OCNIOZ | Jeeze... it's gotten that bad? | 03:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> They have snapped the Google Hangout but in CLI | 03:40 |
| OCNIOZ | I use google hangouts for *all* of my calls and text messages | 03:40 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: a snap for hangouts? | 03:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Oh calls | 03:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> I think its called hangups | 03:40 |
| OCNIOZ | I don't care about calls from my laptop, but the text messages would be super nice | 03:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> It works fine when I used it | 03:41 |
| OCNIOZ | Linnky!? | 03:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Till I moved all to Telegram | 03:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> sudo snap find hang | 03:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Either hangups or hangout | 03:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Then sudo snap install hang* | 03:41 |
| OCNIOZ | Thanks! | 03:42 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Np | 03:42 |
| OCNIOZ | I always feel so silly in here | 03:42 |
| OCNIOZ | I'm an IT pro but it's all Windows OS at work so I know nothing about NIX | 03:42 |
| valorie | why? | 03:42 |
| valorie | oh | 03:42 |
| OCNIOZ | What are "snaps" or should I just google it | 03:43 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> http://snapcraft.io | 03:44 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> One place for sure | 03:44 |
| valorie | snappy is a way of making instant packages | 03:44 |
| valorie | self-contained | 03:44 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Well snaps are | 03:44 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Snappy is the IoT OS I believe | 03:45 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> That is built with snaps | 03:45 |
| valorie | ok, sorry | 03:45 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> No reason to be sorry, its very confusing | 03:45 |
| valorie | agreed | 03:45 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | * ahoneybun needs to learn more snappy and snaps for a conference in March | 03:46 |
| gstnet | I thought "internet accounts" thing in kde 16.10 IS ktelephaty | 04:15 |
| gstnet | it works great for me. I use it with google hangouts, AIM and jabber | 04:16 |
| === jhunold is now known as jayhunold | ||
| GoodPuppers | Hello. I have a computer with a GTX 970, an intel core I5 skylake, 8 gigabytes of ram, a few other distros on the hard drive, and a usb drive to install ubuntu. When i boot up into the install menu and press enter to install, it goes to a grey terminal window momentarily, then going black and not displaying anything. | 06:16 |
| GoodPuppers | Posting here as well, as the problem also occurs on kubuntu. | 06:16 |
| DarinMiller | GoodPuppers: By chance have you tried nomodeset? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu | 06:19 |
| GoodPuppers | I haven't installed the OS yet, i'm afraid. | 06:21 |
| hateball | nomodeset works on the install media as well | 06:21 |
| GoodPuppers | I'm curious, what does nomodeset do? | 06:24 |
| DarinMiller | GoodPuppers: Sorry, here's a better link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/131435/can-i-force-kubuntu-installer-to-use-nvidia-driver-not-nouveau | 06:24 |
| DarinMiller | See UPD: near the bottom. | 06:25 |
| DarinMiller | nomodeset forces a specific default graphic mode. Quite often it will not use your native screen resolution- especially if its HDPI. | 06:26 |
| GoodPuppers | Thanks. Be right back then! | 06:27 |
| GoodPuppers | It worked, but i forgot i had ubuntu on my usb instead of Kubuntu -_- | 06:35 |
| GoodPuppers | I saw an amazon logo and noped out | 06:35 |
| GoodPuppers | How do you pronounce Kubuntu? | 06:36 |
| GoodPuppers | Is it koo-boon-too, or K Ubuntu? | 06:36 |
| hateball | I'd use the former | 06:36 |
| DarinMiller | KU Bun 2 | 06:36 |
| valorie | I use koo buntu | 06:38 |
| valorie | but since it's made up, you can pronounce it any way you like! | 06:38 |
| GoodPuppers | does kubuntu have the same advertising and shady business stockbuntu does? | 06:38 |
| GoodPuppers | I'm gonna pronounce it k ubuntu | 06:38 |
| valorie | no advertising, no reporting | 06:39 |
| GoodPuppers | :D | 06:39 |
| GoodPuppers | I was using mint until people on an IRC trashed my decision | 06:39 |
| valorie | well, use what you like | 06:40 |
| DarinMiller | Mint is also a good DE. | 06:40 |
| valorie | this isn't religion | 06:40 |
| GoodPuppers | They kinda did let one of their isos get compromised, though | 06:40 |
| valorie | they did | 06:40 |
| GoodPuppers | I'm liking linux so far | 06:42 |
| GoodPuppers | I just started and the automation with simple scripts is pretty cool | 06:43 |
| DarinMiller | GoodPuppers: For me Linux makes computer fun to use again. So many projects and things to expore. | 06:45 |
| GoodPuppers | I also kinda hate it when a computer tells me no | 06:46 |
| GoodPuppers | I bought you | 06:46 |
| GoodPuppers | listen to me | 06:46 |
| DarinMiller | The longer I use Linux, the more I appreciate the community and the attitude of open source. And the more I dislike any other business model. | 06:50 |
| valorie | freedom is pretty great | 06:53 |
| valorie | I don't mind paying my favorite restaurant for dinner, though | 06:53 |
| valorie | or donating to free projects! | 06:54 |
| DarinMiller | Ditto :) | 06:54 |
| valorie | so I hear | 06:54 |
| valorie | lol | 06:54 |
| === dyson is now known as Guest19403 | ||
| thelionroars | uh, help? The installer won't let me continue past the 'Prepare' stage | 08:56 |
| hateball | thelionroars: Is this 16.04 or 16.10? | 08:57 |
| thelionroars | 16.10 | 08:57 |
| hateball | thelionroars: And you have successfully booted into the "Try" mode, and are now trying to install it? | 08:57 |
| thelionroars | yes | 08:58 |
| hateball | Hmmm, the "prepare" stage, what does that show? I cant remember | 08:59 |
| hateball | ack, gotta run, hopefully someone else will be around | 08:59 |
| thelionroars | it's a new XPS 13, I'm checking UEFI settings at the moment | 08:59 |
| thelionroars | it asks if you want to download updates while installing, and install 3rd party stuff | 08:59 |
| thelionroars | but no matter what options, proceeding to disk is disabled | 09:00 |
| thelionroars | 'disk' | 09:00 |
| hateball | thelionroars: Does the machine have a windows install on it? | 09:00 |
| thelionroars | it came with it, I disabled secure boot but am looking for other possible problem settings | 09:01 |
| hateball | thelionroars: are you looking to dualboot? | 09:01 |
| thelionroars | nope | 09:01 |
| hateball | hmmm | 09:01 |
| thelionroars | I'm wiping that sucker | 09:01 |
| hateball | thelionroars: have you tried using the partitioning tool before starting the installer? | 09:02 |
| hateball | to wipe the drive clean | 09:02 |
| hateball | I think windows has some... hybrid sleep mode... thing... maybe that confuses the installer | 09:02 |
| thelionroars | might give that a go | 09:02 |
| thelionroars | Trying AHCI instead of RAID, that may work | 09:03 |
| thelionroars | I'm guessing it was the RAID being on, that or 'legacy' boot modes being disabled. | 09:07 |
| thelionroars | working now | 09:07 |
| thelionroars | phew | 09:07 |
| hateball | I recall reading about that AHCI/RAID stuff | 09:11 |
| hateball | Think that was a machine that didnt allow switching to AHCI or some such | 09:11 |
| hateball | Good you got it going at least ! | 09:11 |
| thelionroars | yes, relieved | 09:12 |
| === morgan is now known as Guest21114 | ||
| === Guest21114 is now known as yossarianuk | ||
| timss | Hi. Using Kubuntu 16.10 with Nvidia Quadro 600 (binary driver), and the desktop feels really sluggish. Moving windows have a slight delay, and I can notice a lag when starting krunner etc. Any obvious performance tweaks I should do? I'm used to running Plasma (5) on Intel graphics, where it's really snappy. | 09:42 |
| yossarianuk | timss: try the latest drivber from the offical nvidia ppa - latest is 275.20 | 09:44 |
| yossarianuk | sorry | 09:44 |
| yossarianuk | 375.20 | 09:44 |
| hateball | Is 375 packaged now? | 09:44 |
| hateball | ah I see, very recently | 09:45 |
| hateball | timss: For the latest official driver: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-370 | 09:45 |
| hateball | timss: replace with nvidia-375 for the beta driver | 09:46 |
| yossarianuk | Ii winder if anyone can help me - also I havee a fairly beefy work laptop - I7 cpu, Nviidia 960, 16G ram, SSD - my issue is whenever I write data to a USB stick my system is unusable - really laggy/slow - its oytherwise pretty damn fast | 09:46 |
| yossarianuk | its not the USB stick | 09:46 |
| hateball | yossarianuk: high cpu load? | 09:46 |
| hateball | yossarianuk: what filesystem does the thumbdrive use? | 09:47 |
| hateball | NTFS will eat more CPU than say FAT32 or ext* | 09:47 |
| hateball | I have also seen some bugs related to the notification plasmoid, that gobbles CPU when it updates the progress of file operations down in the tray | 09:47 |
| timss | yossarianuk: hateball: I'm running 367.57 atm, any particular reason you'd expect the 375 to be much better? I've used a few iterations of drivers on this card without much difference. | 09:48 |
| yossarianuk | filesystem doesn't matter - fat/ext4 /ntfs i.e using dd makes my machine unusable | 09:48 |
| soee | 375.20 has one serious bug where opengl apps have poor performance | 09:48 |
| hateball | yossarianuk: hmmm, using dd would rule out the notification plasmoid as well | 09:49 |
| yossarianuk | sound skips, mouse lag, just typing this is a nightmare | 09:49 |
| yossarianuk | doesn't happen on my i5 desktop ... | 09:49 |
| yossarianuk | anythinng I can do to help troubleshoot - i.e any logs ,, etc | 09:50 |
| soee | https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/977518/linux/problems-with-multiple-opengl-applications-running-simultaneously-with-375-20-on-a-gtx970/ | 09:50 |
| yossarianuk | cpu load is fairly high | 09:50 |
| yossarianuk | not sure if this is ubuntu/kubuntu specific as i've only used *buntu based distros on this machine | 09:51 |
| yossarianuk | happened to 16.04 also | 09:51 |
| yossarianuk | (on 16.10) | 09:51 |
| soee | so it also makes screenlocker crash and you have to switch tty yo unlock screen :) | 09:52 |
| timss | soee: thanks for the heads up | 09:52 |
| soee | "The regression was identified, so the next 375.XX release will carry a fix. In the meantime, there is no workaround that we can offer, so please downgrade the driver to 375.10." | 09:52 |
| yossarianuk | 370.28 performed better in some steam games than 367 | 09:56 |
| yossarianuk | nogt benchmarked 375 - and yes I've had the unlock bug - its easy to sorft out though | 09:57 |
| yossarianuk | I can see this in dmesg -> scsi host4: runtime PM trying to activate child device host4 but parent (2-1:1.0) is not active | 10:05 |
| viewer|68393 | Hi, since a couple of days (last update) the konsole doesn't start. Encountered on 3 computers (Yakkety) | 10:14 |
| viewer|68393 | Any clues? | 10:14 |
| === Guest17463 is now known as Haudegen | ||
| === frvdamme is now known as yalu_ | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:40 |
| yocs0000 | Hi all! Yesterday update usate the aduio system .... the priority list was altered and caused quite a few problems .... | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | yocs0000, what problems? | 14:43 |
| yocs0000 | BluesKaj: got to the office, and the external headset was excluded, which blasted sound across the offices. The priority list was reversed. | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | yocs0000, check your multimedia hardware setting in system settings and make sure automute is disabled and relevant controls in alsamixer are turned on and not muted(MM) | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | BBL...stuff to do | 14:56 |
| yocs0000 | BluesKaj: yes, of course .... but the point here is that the update overrode th previous settings. | 14:56 |
| BluesKaj | sometimes updates, especially upgrades also change the config files back to defualt settings | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | anyway bbl | 14:58 |
| viewer|74979 | Hi | 15:08 |
| viewer|74979 | I am trying to install Kubuntu in virtualbox as a guest | 15:09 |
| viewer|74979 | while the most is mac os sierra | 15:09 |
| viewer|74979 | its stuck on a window with a blank | 15:09 |
| viewer|74979 | any suggestions? | 15:09 |
| arensre | Hi | 17:54 |
| sintre | hi | 17:55 |
| arensre | nothing goin on hear :) | 17:56 |
| sintre | same , just waiting till time to do turkey rounds | 17:56 |
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| === rthomsen6 is now known as rthomsen | ||
| yocs0000 | OK, bluetooth does not work anymore .... yet everything seems to be set up properly. Yet I keep getting obexd service not running. | 19:21 |
| yocs0000 | OK, bluetooth does not work anymore .... yet everything seems to be set up properly. Yet I keep getting obexd service not running. | 19:57 |
| sintre | well one thx giving dinne rover | 20:11 |
| yocs0000 | hu guys! Bluetooth ot working, 16.10 64 bit, error "Obexd service is not running." | 20:11 |
| sintre | well seems for some reason using different usb port when installing wokre dnow kubuntu actually booted from ssd | 20:12 |
| sintre | anybody know the command sequence to update all packages | 20:12 |
| yocs0000 | sintre: I do not understand .... | 20:13 |
| yocs0000 | sintre: like upgrading the release? | 20:13 |
| sintre | yea couple days ago somebody gave me some back door terminal command | 20:14 |
| sintre | then it well went to work for thirty minutes | 20:14 |
| sintre | was like three different lines | 20:14 |
| sintre | no biggy , sure some more people will be around later | 20:15 |
| sintre | i gott head off for turkey dinner # 2 here in an hour | 20:15 |
| yocs0000 | sudo do-release-upgrade | 20:15 |
| yocs0000 | sintre: | 20:16 |
| sintre | here | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | yocs0000, one should always update and upgrade your packages first | 20:17 |
| sintre | ok where to start guys nothing done yet | 20:17 |
| sintre | it says no packages to be updated | 20:17 |
| yocs0000 | BluesKaj: of course, do we need to say that?! | 20:17 |
| sintre | ok just had it find some downloaded those now | 20:18 |
| yocs0000 | sintre: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 20:18 |
| BluesKaj | yocs0000, yes, users just need a reminder | 20:18 |
| yocs0000 | sintre: then you do sudo do-release-upgrade | 20:18 |
| sintre | yea k got it , it magically found some in 5 minutes lol | 20:18 |
| sintre | thx | 20:18 |
| BluesKaj | apt full-upgrade | 20:18 |
| yocs0000 | Bluetooth ot working, 16.10 64 bit, error "Obexd service is not running." Anone with the same problem? | 20:19 |
| sintre | wish i could help , i don't even own a blu tooth device | 20:20 |
| yocs0000 | I so hate the fact that muon does not refresh the databas ebetween searches and installtions | 20:22 |
| sintre | moun seems to never ever search a data base for me lol | 20:25 |
| sintre | just the top programs on front page | 20:25 |
| yocs0000 | anyway, time to go. Have a good upgrade sintre .... yes, it is not only you. I am completely fed up. I am in half a mind ot move to unity. FFS. | 20:25 |
| sintre | had to us the ubuntu package thing to put some waste time game son | 20:25 |
| sintre | c ya | 20:26 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest4638 | ||
| sintre | lol funn followed commands , then tell me no new release found | 20:33 |
| BluesKaj | sintre, turn off the LTS only option and change it to normal in the update manager | 20:38 |
| sintre | there we go its rolling now | 20:40 |
| sintre | thanks a ton | 20:40 |
| BluesKaj | np | 20:41 |
| yocs0000 | Bluetooth ot working, 16.10 64 bit, error "Obexd service is not running." Anone with the same problem? | 20:42 |
| sintre | check forums for blu tooth problems , maybe somebody has come across it before? | 20:44 |
| BluesKaj | yocs0000, make sure bluez-obexd is installed | 20:44 |
| yocs0000 | sintre: this is the last resort, if I had found a solution in the forum would not be here .... | 20:44 |
| sintre | :( | 20:45 |
| yocs0000 | bluez-obexd is already the newest version (5.41-0ubuntu3). BluesKaj | 20:45 |
| sintre | is it just one device or all of them? | 20:45 |
| BluesKaj | yocs0000, ok install bluetooth | 20:47 |
| yocs0000 | BluesKaj: what do you mean? | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | it has the plugins | 20:48 |
| BluesKaj | !bluetooth | 20:49 |
| ubottu | For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | 20:49 |
| yocs0000 | BluesKaj: of course I have bluetooth installed :) | 20:49 |
| BluesKaj | well, it's not installed here by defualt | 20:49 |
| BluesKaj | default even | 20:49 |
| yocs0000 | BluesKaj: of course, but I need to use it so I installed it .... the point is it worked perfectly well in 16.04, upgraded to 16.10 it does not work anymore together with many other things! | 20:52 |
| sintre | now you tell me when i just started to upgrade :) | 20:52 |
| sintre | then again i'm just happy i got the thing to install properly | 20:52 |
| sintre | :) | 20:52 |
| sintre | still upacking packages now | 20:53 |
| BluesKaj | calling it a day ...later | 20:54 |
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| === marver is now known as Marver | ||
| schnoodles | What is the proper way to remove .deb from kubuntu? It never appears in Discover but does in the old "synaptic" | 23:24 |
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