[00:25] here's a question if anyone wants some points https://askubuntu.com/questions/852907/autostart-gui-app-as-root-without-adding-logged-in-user-to-wheel [00:28] you can have multiple panels, and I believe the settings for each are separate === dyson is now known as Guest23629 [02:40] hello everyone [02:47] <[Relic]> Is there some way of stopping 16.10 task manager from sorting windows alphabetically when set to "do not sort"? [02:48] <[Relic]> FF taskbar items bounce around a lot if you open in new window rather than new tab [03:07] Hello! I could use some help with the built in messenger program on Kubuntu, every time I click on Google to try to set up my hangouts account nothing happens [03:08] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-telepathy-0-9/ already tried what that page says === dyson is now known as Guest96372 [03:23] Anyone? [03:37] Hmmmm [03:37] OCNIOZ: telepathy is no longer being developed [03:37] unfortunately [03:37] I believe we pulled it from the last ISO [03:37] Oh... so there is no way I can get it working with Google? [03:37] Ahhhhh [03:38] if we didn't, we should have [03:38] If it was pulled it was pulled : [03:38] well, some people have said that they got it working [03:38] but mostly I hear complaints [03:38] Ah. Any idea what those who claim it is working have done? [03:38] google and fb both changed their api or closed them [03:38] OH [03:39] I don't, and gave up myself [03:39] Any suggestions on a google hangouts alternative solution then? [03:39] :( [03:39] if I have to use it, I use chromium or chrome [03:39] sorry to say [03:40] Jeeze... it's gotten that bad? [03:40] They have snapped the Google Hangout but in CLI [03:40] I use google hangouts for *all* of my calls and text messages [03:40] ahoneybun: a snap for hangouts? [03:40] Oh calls [03:40] I think its called hangups [03:40] I don't care about calls from my laptop, but the text messages would be super nice [03:41] It works fine when I used it [03:41] Linnky!? [03:41] Till I moved all to Telegram [03:41] sudo snap find hang [03:41] Either hangups or hangout [03:41] Then sudo snap install hang* [03:42] Thanks! [03:42] Np [03:42] I always feel so silly in here [03:42] I'm an IT pro but it's all Windows OS at work so I know nothing about NIX [03:42] why? [03:42] oh [03:43] What are "snaps" or should I just google it [03:44] http://snapcraft.io [03:44] One place for sure [03:44] snappy is a way of making instant packages [03:44] self-contained [03:44] Well snaps are [03:45] Snappy is the IoT OS I believe [03:45] That is built with snaps [03:45] ok, sorry [03:45] No reason to be sorry, its very confusing [03:45] agreed [03:46] * ahoneybun needs to learn more snappy and snaps for a conference in March [04:15] I thought "internet accounts" thing in kde 16.10 IS ktelephaty [04:16] it works great for me. I use it with google hangouts, AIM and jabber === jhunold is now known as jayhunold [06:16] Hello. I have a computer with a GTX 970, an intel core I5 skylake, 8 gigabytes of ram, a few other distros on the hard drive, and a usb drive to install ubuntu. When i boot up into the install menu and press enter to install, it goes to a grey terminal window momentarily, then going black and not displaying anything. [06:16] Posting here as well, as the problem also occurs on kubuntu. [06:19] GoodPuppers: By chance have you tried nomodeset? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu [06:21] I haven't installed the OS yet, i'm afraid. [06:21] nomodeset works on the install media as well [06:24] I'm curious, what does nomodeset do? [06:24] GoodPuppers: Sorry, here's a better link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/131435/can-i-force-kubuntu-installer-to-use-nvidia-driver-not-nouveau [06:25] See UPD: near the bottom. [06:26] nomodeset forces a specific default graphic mode. Quite often it will not use your native screen resolution- especially if its HDPI. [06:27] Thanks. Be right back then! [06:35] It worked, but i forgot i had ubuntu on my usb instead of Kubuntu -_- [06:35] I saw an amazon logo and noped out [06:36] How do you pronounce Kubuntu? [06:36] Is it koo-boon-too, or K Ubuntu? [06:36] I'd use the former [06:36] KU Bun 2 [06:38] I use koo buntu [06:38] but since it's made up, you can pronounce it any way you like! [06:38] does kubuntu have the same advertising and shady business stockbuntu does? [06:38] I'm gonna pronounce it k ubuntu [06:39] no advertising, no reporting [06:39] :D [06:39] I was using mint until people on an IRC trashed my decision [06:40] well, use what you like [06:40] Mint is also a good DE. [06:40] this isn't religion [06:40] They kinda did let one of their isos get compromised, though [06:40] they did [06:42] I'm liking linux so far [06:43] I just started and the automation with simple scripts is pretty cool [06:45] GoodPuppers: For me Linux makes computer fun to use again. So many projects and things to expore. [06:46] I also kinda hate it when a computer tells me no [06:46] I bought you [06:46] listen to me [06:50] The longer I use Linux, the more I appreciate the community and the attitude of open source. And the more I dislike any other business model. [06:53] freedom is pretty great [06:53] I don't mind paying my favorite restaurant for dinner, though [06:54] or donating to free projects! [06:54] Ditto :) [06:54] so I hear [06:54] lol === dyson is now known as Guest19403 [08:56] uh, help? The installer won't let me continue past the 'Prepare' stage [08:57] thelionroars: Is this 16.04 or 16.10? [08:57] 16.10 [08:57] thelionroars: And you have successfully booted into the "Try" mode, and are now trying to install it? [08:58] yes [08:59] Hmmm, the "prepare" stage, what does that show? I cant remember [08:59] ack, gotta run, hopefully someone else will be around [08:59] it's a new XPS 13, I'm checking UEFI settings at the moment [08:59] it asks if you want to download updates while installing, and install 3rd party stuff [09:00] but no matter what options, proceeding to disk is disabled [09:00] 'disk' [09:00] thelionroars: Does the machine have a windows install on it? [09:01] it came with it, I disabled secure boot but am looking for other possible problem settings [09:01] thelionroars: are you looking to dualboot? [09:01] nope [09:01] hmmm [09:01] I'm wiping that sucker [09:02] thelionroars: have you tried using the partitioning tool before starting the installer? [09:02] to wipe the drive clean [09:02] I think windows has some... hybrid sleep mode... thing... maybe that confuses the installer [09:02] might give that a go [09:03] Trying AHCI instead of RAID, that may work [09:07] I'm guessing it was the RAID being on, that or 'legacy' boot modes being disabled. [09:07] working now [09:07] phew [09:11] I recall reading about that AHCI/RAID stuff [09:11] Think that was a machine that didnt allow switching to AHCI or some such [09:11] Good you got it going at least ! [09:12] yes, relieved === morgan is now known as Guest21114 === Guest21114 is now known as yossarianuk [09:42] Hi. Using Kubuntu 16.10 with Nvidia Quadro 600 (binary driver), and the desktop feels really sluggish. Moving windows have a slight delay, and I can notice a lag when starting krunner etc. Any obvious performance tweaks I should do? I'm used to running Plasma (5) on Intel graphics, where it's really snappy. [09:44] timss: try the latest drivber from the offical nvidia ppa - latest is 275.20 [09:44] sorry [09:44] 375.20 [09:44] Is 375 packaged now? [09:45] ah I see, very recently [09:45] timss: For the latest official driver: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-370 [09:46] timss: replace with nvidia-375 for the beta driver [09:46] Ii winder if anyone can help me - also I havee a fairly beefy work laptop - I7 cpu, Nviidia 960, 16G ram, SSD - my issue is whenever I write data to a USB stick my system is unusable - really laggy/slow - its oytherwise pretty damn fast [09:46] its not the USB stick [09:46] yossarianuk: high cpu load? [09:47] yossarianuk: what filesystem does the thumbdrive use? [09:47] NTFS will eat more CPU than say FAT32 or ext* [09:47] I have also seen some bugs related to the notification plasmoid, that gobbles CPU when it updates the progress of file operations down in the tray [09:48] yossarianuk: hateball: I'm running 367.57 atm, any particular reason you'd expect the 375 to be much better? I've used a few iterations of drivers on this card without much difference. [09:48] filesystem doesn't matter - fat/ext4 /ntfs i.e using dd makes my machine unusable [09:48] 375.20 has one serious bug where opengl apps have poor performance [09:49] yossarianuk: hmmm, using dd would rule out the notification plasmoid as well [09:49] sound skips, mouse lag, just typing this is a nightmare [09:49] doesn't happen on my i5 desktop ... [09:50] anythinng I can do to help troubleshoot - i.e any logs ,, etc [09:50] https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/977518/linux/problems-with-multiple-opengl-applications-running-simultaneously-with-375-20-on-a-gtx970/ [09:50] cpu load is fairly high [09:51] not sure if this is ubuntu/kubuntu specific as i've only used *buntu based distros on this machine [09:51] happened to 16.04 also [09:51] (on 16.10) [09:52] so it also makes screenlocker crash and you have to switch tty yo unlock screen :) [09:52] soee: thanks for the heads up [09:52] "The regression was identified, so the next 375.XX release will carry a fix. In the meantime, there is no workaround that we can offer, so please downgrade the driver to 375.10." [09:56] 370.28 performed better in some steam games than 367 [09:57] nogt benchmarked 375 - and yes I've had the unlock bug - its easy to sorft out though [10:05] I can see this in dmesg -> scsi host4: runtime PM trying to activate child device host4 but parent (2-1:1.0) is not active [10:14] Hi, since a couple of days (last update) the konsole doesn't start. Encountered on 3 computers (Yakkety) [10:14] Any clues? === Guest17463 is now known as Haudegen === frvdamme is now known as yalu_ [13:40] Hiyas all [14:16] Hi all! Yesterday update usate the aduio system .... the priority list was altered and caused quite a few problems .... [14:43] yocs0000, what problems? [14:51] BluesKaj: got to the office, and the external headset was excluded, which blasted sound across the offices. The priority list was reversed. [14:53] yocs0000, check your multimedia hardware setting in system settings and make sure automute is disabled and relevant controls in alsamixer are turned on and not muted(MM) [14:56] BBL...stuff to do [14:56] BluesKaj: yes, of course .... but the point here is that the update overrode th previous settings. [14:58] sometimes updates, especially upgrades also change the config files back to defualt settings [14:58] anyway bbl [15:08] Hi [15:09] I am trying to install Kubuntu in virtualbox as a guest [15:09] while the most is mac os sierra [15:09] its stuck on a window with a blank [15:09] any suggestions? [17:54] Hi [17:55] hi [17:56] nothing goin on hear :) [17:56] same , just waiting till time to do turkey rounds === z4ki is now known as zaki === rthomsen6 is now known as rthomsen [19:21] OK, bluetooth does not work anymore .... yet everything seems to be set up properly. Yet I keep getting obexd service not running. [19:57] OK, bluetooth does not work anymore .... yet everything seems to be set up properly. Yet I keep getting obexd service not running. [20:11] well one thx giving dinne rover [20:11] hu guys! Bluetooth ot working, 16.10 64 bit, error "Obexd service is not running." [20:12] well seems for some reason using different usb port when installing wokre dnow kubuntu actually booted from ssd [20:12] anybody know the command sequence to update all packages [20:13] sintre: I do not understand .... [20:13] sintre: like upgrading the release? [20:14] yea couple days ago somebody gave me some back door terminal command [20:14] then it well went to work for thirty minutes [20:14] was like three different lines [20:15] no biggy , sure some more people will be around later [20:15] i gott head off for turkey dinner # 2 here in an hour [20:15] sudo do-release-upgrade [20:16] sintre: [20:17] here [20:17] yocs0000, one should always update and upgrade your packages first [20:17] ok where to start guys nothing done yet [20:17] it says no packages to be updated [20:17] BluesKaj: of course, do we need to say that?! [20:18] ok just had it find some downloaded those now [20:18] sintre: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [20:18] yocs0000, yes, users just need a reminder [20:18] sintre: then you do sudo do-release-upgrade [20:18] yea k got it , it magically found some in 5 minutes lol [20:18] thx [20:18] apt full-upgrade [20:19] Bluetooth ot working, 16.10 64 bit, error "Obexd service is not running." Anone with the same problem? [20:20] wish i could help , i don't even own a blu tooth device [20:22] I so hate the fact that muon does not refresh the databas ebetween searches and installtions [20:25] moun seems to never ever search a data base for me lol [20:25] just the top programs on front page [20:25] anyway, time to go. Have a good upgrade sintre .... yes, it is not only you. I am completely fed up. I am in half a mind ot move to unity. FFS. [20:25] had to us the ubuntu package thing to put some waste time game son [20:26] c ya === kubuntu is now known as Guest4638 [20:33] lol funn followed commands , then tell me no new release found [20:38] sintre, turn off the LTS only option and change it to normal in the update manager [20:40] there we go its rolling now [20:40] thanks a ton [20:41] np [20:42] Bluetooth ot working, 16.10 64 bit, error "Obexd service is not running." Anone with the same problem? [20:44] check forums for blu tooth problems , maybe somebody has come across it before? [20:44] yocs0000, make sure bluez-obexd is installed [20:44] sintre: this is the last resort, if I had found a solution in the forum would not be here .... [20:45] :( [20:45] bluez-obexd is already the newest version (5.41-0ubuntu3). BluesKaj [20:45] is it just one device or all of them? [20:47] yocs0000, ok install bluetooth [20:47] BluesKaj: what do you mean? [20:48] it has the plugins [20:49] !bluetooth [20:49] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [20:49] BluesKaj: of course I have bluetooth installed :) [20:49] well, it's not installed here by defualt [20:49] default even [20:52] BluesKaj: of course, but I need to use it so I installed it .... the point is it worked perfectly well in 16.04, upgraded to 16.10 it does not work anymore together with many other things! [20:52] now you tell me when i just started to upgrade :) [20:52] then again i'm just happy i got the thing to install properly [20:52] :) [20:53] still upacking packages now [20:54] calling it a day ...later === jackbback is now known as jackbback_ === w7u is now known as marver === marver is now known as Marver [23:24] What is the proper way to remove .deb from kubuntu? It never appears in Discover but does in the old "synaptic"