[00:01] <ahoneybun>  !testers
[00:01] <ahoneybun> fill out this after adding backports-landing to your XX or YY system please: https://goo.gl/forms/ogQ6EJDHPkEsvMkW2
[00:01] <tsimonq2> HAI AARON
[00:08] <wxl> tsimonq2: i think you're high. why would i remove the whitespace?
[00:08] <wxl> it's:
[00:08] <wxl>    [ name ]
[00:08] <wxl>    * change
[00:08] <wxl>  
[00:08] <wxl>    [ name ]
[00:08] <wxl>    * change
[00:09] <tsimonq2> You did:
[00:09] <tsimonq2>      [name]
[00:09] <tsimonq2>  
[00:09] <tsimonq2>  
[00:09] <tsimonq2>      * change
[00:09] <wxl> no i didn't.....
[00:09] <tsimonq2> YOU are the high one my friend :)
[00:09] <wxl> https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalarm/commit/?id=d1c759b452d296f75cd8a0cc748b8194d550d469
[00:10] <wxl> ooh
[00:10] <tsimonq2> Explain this:
[00:10] <wxl> ok
[00:10] <wxl> wait
[00:10] <wxl> you're right
[00:10] <tsimonq2> +  [ Clive Johnston ]
[00:10] <tsimonq2> +
[00:10] <tsimonq2>    * Initial split of kalarm from kdepim
[00:10] <tsimonq2>    * Removing packaging info for all but kalarm
[00:10] <tsimonq2>    * Fixed watch file
[00:10] <tsimonq2>  
[00:10] <wxl> darnit
[00:10] <tsimonq2> +  [ Walter Lapchynski ]
[00:10] <tsimonq2> +
[00:10] <tsimonq2> +  * Added lintian-overrides
[00:10] <ahoneybun> please use pastebin
[00:10] <wxl> sooo
[00:10] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: buzzkill
[00:10] <wxl> so i have to make a new commit and a merge proposal???
[00:10] <tsimonq2> Nope, just a new commit
[00:10] <tsimonq2> When you push the MP will automatically update :)
[00:12] <wxl> done
[00:12] <tsimonq2> Thanks :P
[00:12] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/a/MEQuG
[00:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: Merged <3
[00:14] <valorie> very astonomical somehow
[00:14] <wxl> yay name's in lights :)
[00:14]  * wxl had to resist the urge from making smarmy commit messages
[00:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: I do it once in a while, don't worry :P
[00:15] <tsimonq2> "Fix the awful grammar on this stupid changelog entry"
[00:15] <tsimonq2> :P
[00:16] <wxl> no it would of been something like "stupid whitespace is stupid"
[00:17] <tsimonq2> lol
[00:17]  * acheronuk watches build for failure
[00:17] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: So it's gonna fail?!?
[00:17] <tsimonq2> argh
[00:18] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: ^^^^
[00:18] <ahoneybun> XD
[00:18] <acheronuk> might
[00:18] <wxl> acheronuk: which'n?
[00:19] <wxl> acheronuk: also do you have any insight on the license issue i brought up earlier?
[00:19] <acheronuk> licences and copyright files are a mystery I have yet to explore properly
[00:19] <wxl> bummer
[00:20] <ahoneybun> they are a nightmare
[00:20] <tsimonq2> I've dabbled in it
[00:20] <tsimonq2> Shoot
[00:20] <wxl> ignore the debhelper http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kcoreaddons/26/parsed_console/
[00:20] <wxl> 3 issues:
[00:20] <wxl> 1. ARTISTIC is not in debian/copyright which is fine
[00:21] <wxl> 2. QPL_V1.0 is there but not causing a problem https://cgit.kde.org/kcoreaddons.git/tree/src/lib/licenses
[00:21] <wxl> 3. all the others that are being complained about ARE included in debian/copyright
[00:21] <tsimonq2> sec
[00:22] <wxl> although re: 1 though adding the license is simple enough i believe copyright requries that the affected files be named
[00:23] <wxl> the debhelper was an easy fix
[00:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: Read up on the not-installed file. This has nothing to do with debian/copyright.
[00:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kalarm build #22: FIXED in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kalarm/22/
[00:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[00:25] <tsimonq2> Weeeeeeee wxl ^^^
[00:25] <valorie> \o/
[00:25] <wxl> that's not wuz extra-license-file sez
[00:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: esplain 
[00:27] <wxl> tsimonq2: you see KCI-W :: W: libkf5coreaddons-data: extra-license-file usr/share/kf5/licenses/ARTISTIC right?
[00:28] <wxl> so the issue is the lintian tag extra-license-file, right?
[00:28] <tsimonq2> Yessss
[00:28] <tsimonq2> Mhm
[00:28] <wxl> and then you go to https://lintian.debian.org/tags/extra-license-file.html
[00:28] <wxl> All license information should be collected in the debian/copyright file.
[00:29] <wxl> doesn't say ANYTHING about not-installed
[00:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: Read vewy vewy carefully (I'm hunting for rabbits blah blah blah) "All license information should be collected in the debian/copyright file. This usually makes it unnecessary for the package to install this information in other places as well."
[00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalarm build #21: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalarm/21/
[00:32] <wxl> tsimonq2: oh i read that, too. point being that there needs to be a not installed to remove all of usr/share/kf5/licenses/* ?
[00:32] <tsimonq2> Correct! :D
[00:32] <tsimonq2> You win! :P
[00:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: Now MP :P
[00:34] <wxl> is not-installed just like install? cuz i can't find the darn page in this unsearchable manual :)
[00:34] <tsimonq2> Step 1: Memorize the manual
[00:34] <tsimonq2> Step 2: See step 1
[00:34] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:35] <wxl> Step 3: /kick * tsimonq2 
[00:35] <ahoneybun> btw tsimonq2 stop with the Trump memes
[00:35] <tsimonq2> btw ahoneybun stop being so freaking salty, like damn chill
[00:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: No but seriously rtfm, I'll DDG in the meantime for you
[00:36] <valorie> tsimonq2: please stop with the Trump stuff
[00:36] <valorie> it's painful
[00:36] <wxl> tsimonq2: admittedly, i'd consider recognizing the fact that while you may feel otherwise, there are people that respond incredibly negatively to the mere mention of his name
[00:36]  * ahoneybun wonders why his Fire just did a system update on it's own
[00:36] <ahoneybun> me included
[00:37] <tsimonq2> Well you are gonna have to hear it for the next 4 years at least...
[00:37] <tsimonq2> But fine... :/
[00:37] <ahoneybun> I'd rather avoid it when I can
[00:37] <wxl> remember that whole Be Considerate thing?
[00:37] <wxl> *I* think it's funny because one of those wrong memes just proves how terrible it is, but that' sjust me
[00:38]  * ahoneybun orders a Funko Pop or two
[00:38] <valorie> I will hear it, true, but I hope not *here*
[00:39] <wxl> at the same time, we must remember there are people that *DO* like him, and it would probably be best to be considerate with them, too
[00:39] <wxl> so tl;dr let's not bring it up at all
[00:39] <tsimonq2> ^
[00:39] <tsimonq2> fine fine fine fine FINE
[00:39] <valorie> amen to that
[00:40] <tsimonq2> I'm just a little sick of *someone* being so salty sometimes... >__<
[00:41] <wxl> ARGH I CAN"T FIND IT!!! :(
[00:41] <wxl> tsimonq2: this is not a constructive way of dealing with that.
[00:41] <wxl> tsimonq2: nor is it the appropriate forum
[00:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: Just find an example in packaging.
[00:41] <wxl> tsimonq2: you and that someone would need to work together to figure out a way to get along
[00:42] <wxl> i find https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#install
[00:43] <tsimonq2> wxl: It's just like an install file. :)
[00:43]  * wxl facepalms
[00:43] <tsimonq2> ??????????
[00:44] <wxl> 634 < wxl:#kubuntu-devel> is not-installed just like install?
[00:46] <tsimonq2> Sorry >.<
[00:54] <wxl> tsimonq2: um i assume this is just a not-installed versus having one for each library or do i need to do that not matter what?
[00:55] <wxl> e.g. libkf5coreaddons-bin-dev.not-installed?
[01:00]  * acheronuk yawns
[01:02] <wxl> acheronuk: any ideas about the above?
[01:03] <tsimonq2> wxl: Nope
[01:03] <tsimonq2> wxl: Incorrect
[01:03] <tsimonq2> The file is JUST called not-installed
[01:03] <tsimonq2> Because it's for the whole source package.
[01:03] <wxl> k
[01:08] <acheronuk> was no webhook for kaddressbook. bah
[01:08] <tsimonq2> wxl: Where's your MP? XD
[01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kaddressbook build #17: NOW UNSTABLE in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kaddressbook/17/
[01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kaddressbook build #17: NOW UNSTABLE in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kaddressbook/17/
[01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kaddressbook build #21: NOW UNSTABLE in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kaddressbook/21/
[01:26] <wxl> tsimonq2: right thur
[01:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: right whur?
[01:27] <wxl> thur
[01:27] <tsimonq2> whur?
[01:27] <wxl> thur
[01:27] <tsimonq2> whur?
[01:27] <wxl> in yr emalz
[01:28] <tsimonq2> Oh thaty
[01:28] <tsimonq2> *that
[01:28] <tsimonq2> k
[01:30] <wxl> dude are you done yet???
[01:30] <tsimonq2> yu
[01:30] <tsimonq2> *ye
[01:30] <wxl> dude
[01:31] <wxl> merge
[01:31] <wxl> merge
[01:31] <wxl> meeeeeeerge
[01:31] <tsimonq2> done
[01:31] <tsimonq2> done
[01:31] <tsimonq2> done
[01:31] <tsimonq2> done
[01:31] <tsimonq2> done
[01:31] <acheronuk> lol
[01:31] <tsimonq2> done
[01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kaddressbook build #18: FIXED in 8 min 31 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kaddressbook/18/
[01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kaddressbook build #22: FIXED in 8 min 31 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kaddressbook/22/
[01:31] <tsimonq2> DONEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[01:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: hey
[01:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: hey you
[01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kaddressbook build #18: FIXED in 8 min 53 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kaddressbook/18/
[01:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: YOU SEE YET?
[01:31] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:32] <wxl> yeah
[01:32] <tsimonq2> good
[01:32] <acheronuk> 37
[01:32] <wxl> seconds?
[01:32] <wxl> i know tsimonq2 took for ever
[01:33] <acheronuk> 37 left to fix
[01:33] <tsimonq2> YAYYYYYYYY
[01:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: fix it
[01:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: fix it
[01:33] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: What else you gonna fix? :D
[01:37] <wxl> nothing rtight now
[01:37] <wxl> the fact i've fit anything in is a miracle XD
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[01:46] <tsimonq2> wxl: STILL UNSTABLE\
[01:46] <tsimonq2> :O
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[01:50] <wxl> tsimonq2: yes and what failed was YOUR suggestion, so what's wrong? :)
[01:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: You, inspect debian/libkf5coreaddons-data.install
[01:51] <wxl> tsimonq2: i would have thought that it would have been overridden
[01:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: Incorrect.
[01:52] <wxl> of course i can't find ANNY DOCUYMENATION ON NOT_INSTALLEWD SOFHUJIGDASIUYWRHFIWUYHREFOI
[01:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcoreaddons/tree/debian/libkf5coreaddons-data.install?h=kubuntu_unstable#n1
[01:53] <tsimonq2> wxl: Fix it :P
[01:53] <wxl> tsimonq2: i mean i would have thought that not-installed would override any package.install
[01:53] <tsimonq2> nuh uhhhh
[01:54] <acheronuk> nope
[01:54] <wxl> grr
[01:54] <wxl> i guess if i think about it like config files it makes sense
[01:55] <wxl> local > global > system
[01:55] <wxl> do i have to make ANOTHER proposal?
[01:55] <tsimonq2> Nah
[01:56] <tsimonq2> Just push it somewhere
[01:56] <wxl> done then
[01:56] <tsimonq2> I"ll grab it
[01:56] <wxl> https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcoreaddons/commit/?id=0b06d9dcc8597dc836ad5d017ae5cc3de56f7d7d
[01:57] <tsimonq2> Done
[02:01] <wxl> thx
[02:01] <wxl> hopefully that works
[02:01] <wxl> if one of you can actually find docs on not-installed that would be rad
[02:01] <tsimonq2> It BETTER :P
[02:01] <wxl> couldn't find it in either dev/maint guides or policy
[02:05] <acheronuk> not very verbose, but http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man1/dh_install.1.html
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[02:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: What did I tell you?!? RTFM!!!!!!!!
[02:05] <wxl> oh
[02:05] <tsimonq2> :P
[02:05] <wxl> and it might not work anyways
[02:05] <wxl>        Please keep in mind that dh_install will not expand wildcards in
[02:05] <wxl>            this file.
[02:06] <tsimonq2> Well you don't need a wildard
[02:06] <tsimonq2> Just the dir
[02:06] <wxl> oh i guess i should make that change too
[02:07] <wxl> that is fixed now, please merge
[02:07]  * acheronuk glares at plasma-workspace
[02:08] <wxl> acheronuk: might i remind you it's 2am? XD
[02:08] <tsimonq2> wxl: DONE
[02:09] <acheronuk> wxl: I'm quite aware, but thanks
[02:09] <wxl> :)
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[02:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace build #45: FIXED in 26 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-workspace/45/
[02:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kcoreaddons build #28: FIXED in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kcoreaddons/28/
[02:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[02:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kcoreaddons build #313: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kcoreaddons/313/
[02:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[02:24] <wxl> darn right success
[02:24] <wxl> btw i turn kubuntu-ci off (read: ignore). too chatty
[02:24] <wxl> hell, that thing's worse than you, simon
[02:25] <wxl> AND THAT"S SAYING SOMETHING
[02:26] <tsimonq2> lol
[02:27] <tsimonq2> wxl: Maybe when you fix all the KCI jobs, you'll be able to turn it back on. XD
[02:28] <wxl> hahahah
[02:28] <wxl> we need to get ahoneybun packaging
[02:28] <wxl> tsimonq2: so do you think i could survive a Ninja app at this point?
[02:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: I will support it if you do can tell me how many packages are in Frameworks, Applications, and Plasma combined. XD
[02:32] <tsimonq2> Otherwise yes :P
[02:32] <wxl> well
[02:32] <wxl> let's see
[02:32] <wxl> i just need to grab all the repos
[02:32] <wxl> grep recursively through them for Package in control
[02:32] <wxl> and pipe it through wc
[02:32] <tsimonq2> And you have to do it all by yourself. :P
[02:33] <wxl> so i don't know but i know how to do it XD
[02:33] <wxl> tl;dr too easy try again
[02:33] <tsimonq2> No I mean source packages
[02:33] <wxl> oh well that's even easier
[02:33] <wxl> cuz then it's just a matter of counting all the repos
[02:33] <wxl> WAY TOO EASY
[02:33] <tsimonq2> Do it. :P
[02:34] <wxl> 370? :)
[02:35] <tsimonq2> How did you get that number?
[02:35] <wxl> i cheated
[02:35] <wxl> looked at all the repos in kubuntu-packaging XD
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Not 100% accurate.
[02:35] <tsimonq2> WRONG
[02:35] <wxl> how close am i?
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Hint: kde.org
[02:36] <wxl> oh no that's no fun
[02:36] <wxl> their git is a blooming nightmare
[02:37] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm kidding.
[02:37] <tsimonq2> lol
[02:37] <wxl> wait i've got an idea :)
[02:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: Ok, I just need to have confidence that you know our workflow enough.
[02:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: Link me to the tooling. Neon's repos. Our repos. Debian's repos. KDE's repos.
[02:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: Then send an email to the ML and I'll +1
[02:39] <wxl> KDE is https://cgit.kde.org/ which includes 4630 lines of HTML dealing only with the listing of repos, with two lines required for each table row, meaning a total of 2315 repos.
[02:39] <wxl> HAH I WIN
[02:40] <tsimonq2> Noooooooo :D
[02:40] <wxl> https://packaging.neon.kde.org/
[02:40] <tsimonq2> https://www.kde.org/info/plasma-5.8.4.php
[02:40] <wxl> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[02:40] <wxl> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/
[02:41] <wxl> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation
[02:41] <tsimonq2> KDE?
[02:41] <wxl> KDE is https://cgit.kde.org/ which includes 4630 lines of HTML dealing only with the listing of repos, with two lines required for each table row, meaning a total of 2315 repos.
[02:42] <wxl> i included it along with my answer :)
[02:42] <wxl> -1 to you for not noticing
[02:42] <wxl> so that's an extra +1 for me
[02:42] <tsimonq2> Good, send that and any other info you know about our workflow to the ML :)
[02:42] <wxl> plus bonus for style +5
[02:42] <wxl> okok so do you really think i can actually survive this?
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[02:44] <wxl> that's really my question, less than procedure
[02:44] <wxl> i kind of feeling like i'm getting the hang of it
[02:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #64: FIXED in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/64/
[02:44] <wxl> but i could be fooling myself
 Yes
 I think you are
[02:46] <wxl> ok then i'll do it
[02:46] <wxl> just like merge proposals, the worst that can happen is it gets rejected XDE
 Well all you need is 2 KDs to say you know what you're talking about
 And the KC can substitute one KD vote for their collective vote.
 Yup. :)
[02:47] <wxl> just for grins, can you send me a link to your application?
[02:47] <tsimonq2> About that...
[02:47] <tsimonq2> I just bugged people over and over on IRC ;D
[02:47]  * wxl facepalms
[02:48] <wxl> kind of like ubuntu-motu? XD
[02:48]  * wxl points and laughs
[02:48] <tsimonq2> What? lol
[02:48] <wxl> 1458 < tsimonq2:#ubuntu-motu> If any of you want to help me become MOTU, throw things at me. ;) 
[02:49] <tsimonq2> Yeah lol
[04:06]  * ahoneybun wonders what is going on with peruse
[04:07] <ahoneybun> mparillo: the full screen launcher works with the super key
[04:07] <ahoneybun> opening and closing
[04:07] <ahoneybun> so must by something with our kickoff only
[04:17] <DarinMiller> ahoneybun: the initial Plasma 5.8.3 in Neon also exihibited open kicker no close with meta.  Later packages fixed it and it's fixed 5.8.4.  So it's not a kubuntu only issue.
[04:20] <ahoneybun> well mparillo said that it was working fine in Manago or whatever with 5.8.3
[04:20] <ahoneybun> DarinMiller: ^
[04:30] <DarinMiller> ahoneybun: Yes, eventually 5.8.3 was patched and meta worked to both open and close, but I suspected it's patch 5.8.3 that is not in our repo's. I have not attempted to chase down the patches though.
[04:31] <ahoneybun> that makes sense
[04:31] <ahoneybun> better to just work out 5.8.4 I think 
[04:31] <DarinMiller> hey, pbuilder is fixed.  I can finally create a zenial session.
[04:32] <DarinMiller> Yes, I agree.  I am holding out for 5.8.4.  Do you recall which version was discussed to back port to 16.04?
[04:33] <ahoneybun> well 5.8.3 is in backports-landing now
[04:36] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Xenial? ;)
[04:37] <DarinMiller> tsimonq2:  pbuilder or plasma 5.8.x?
[04:38] <tsimonq2> 10:31:55 PM < DarinMiller> hey, pbuilder is fixed.  I can finally create a zenial session.
[04:38] <tsimonq2> Use sbuild! :P
[04:38] <DarinMiller> LOL, yes 
[04:39] <DarinMiller> sbuild? OK, googling for doc's.  Since I don't know how to use either one, might as well learn the "better one?".
[04:40] <DarinMiller> will sbuild use the pbuild enviro's or does it have to dl it's own?
[04:40] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Well the Ubuntu and Debian archives and PPAs all use it, so... :P
[04:41] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[04:41] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: let him use what he wants
[04:41] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: shhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:41] <DarinMiller> Good to know. I understand the concept behind them but I am serious when I say I don't know how to use them.
[04:41] <tsimonq2> stop Aaron
[04:42] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: It's the better solution.
[04:42] <tsimonq2> Well for consistency and such
[05:01] <DarinMiller> tsimonq2: do you use /dev/shm when sbuilding packages?  Is it worth the trouble for occasional package builds?
[05:01] <tsimonq2> Yes absolutely
[05:01] <DarinMiller> tsimonq2:  #11 (optional) on the sbuild link you posted.
[05:01] <tsimonq2> Every so often you have to clear all the expired chroots but otherwise I always use it
[05:02] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: apt-cacher-ng is great too
[05:03] <DarinMiller> Is there an end to the packaging tool set?  I feel like Alice heading down the infinite rabit hole....
[05:03] <tsimonq2> Yes, fortunately. :)
[05:05] <DarinMiller> holy crap, 11 chapters of documentation.  No need for sleepeeze if one is a packager, just read the endless documentation....https://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~bloch/acng/html/
[05:06] <DarinMiller> so is /dev/shm persistant after reboot?  Is the ram disk only consuming memory when running sbuilds?
[05:06] <tsimonq2> Unsure
[05:08] <DarinMiller> Setting it up now...  If I mess something up, a format re-install is fast and easy.
[05:15] <DarinMiller> to app a ppa to an sbuild enviro. do I just schroot -c zesty-amd64 -u root and add a ppa like a normal installation?
[05:15] <tsimonq2> Nuh uh
[05:15] <tsimonq2> sec
 That's my script for KCI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23535986/
[05:22] <DarinMiller> funny, now that i read the docs, I setup apt-cacher-ng awhile back and forgot all about it.  That was before I learned how to do DHCP name resolution on my home network.  I agree, it is very usefull for mulitple installs within the home network.
[05:32] <DarinMiller> OK, sbuild enviro all setup.
 They should make a full sbuild into a snap
 :P
[05:34] <tsimonq2> Night guys o/
[05:35] <DarinMiller> Night tsimonq2!
[05:39] <DarinMiller> +1 for sbuild snap
 Can someone invite me to off topic on telegram?
[06:18] <DarinMiller> wxl: I would if I could, but I am not using telegram yet myself.
 Np
[07:10] <SilentGhost> mutt
 Bark
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[09:24] <acheronuk> morning  :)
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[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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 Question: KCI builds from a combination of KDE source with Debian packaging?
[14:03] <acheronuk> yep
 NOW i get it. even did it on my own :)
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[14:49] <ahoneybun> wxl: ninjahood?
[14:49] <wxl> ahoneybun: too soon? :)
[14:49] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to figure something out lol
[14:49] <ahoneybun> oh right
[14:49] <wxl> it's the highest level of packager
[14:50] <wxl> and a "stepping stone for ascension to KD"
[14:50] <wxl> (who writes this stuff?) XD
[14:50] <ahoneybun> Harald or Riddell
[14:51] <wxl> btw this clearly needs updated https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#Handlers_.28.28NEW.29.29
[14:51] <ahoneybun> LOTS of stuff needs updated
[14:52] <wxl> as long as someone's on it :)
[14:52] <ahoneybun> well I think if we update that we don't have names to put there
[14:52] <ahoneybun> Scott, JR, and Harald are not in here mostly
[14:52] <wxl> yah
[15:23] <wxl> i think i figured out the problem with cantor but i'm not sure i trust myself to fix it
[15:39] <acheronuk> wxl: what have you figured out?
[15:40] <wxl> acheronuk: working on an email. tl;dr it needs dev help
[15:42] <acheronuk> it needs debian or ubuntu to build a julia package that includes the include (julia.h etc), AFAIK
[15:42] <wxl> yup
[15:42] <wxl> and also the julia library
[15:43] <wxl> https://cgit.kde.org/cantor.git/commit/?id=3ef0e7ba639622d4f9e613043bb99adde5c19d05
[15:43] <wxl> the thing i'm confused about is that darn comment
[15:44] <wxl> " Some distos provide packages without actual includes"
[15:44] <wxl> if they KNOW that, then why don't they make it optional? or if it's not optional make it something more like "this will fail on distros that provide packages without actual includes"
[15:46] <acheronuk> it is optional
[15:47] <wxl> i mean optional for compilation of the julia support
[15:47] <wxl> which it's apparently not
[15:47] <wxl> well, ok the library is
[15:47] <acheronuk> -- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found:
[15:48] <acheronuk> * Julia , A high-level, high-performance dynamic programming language for technical computing , <http://julialang.org/>
[15:48] <acheronuk>    Backend to use Julia with Cantor.
[15:48] <wxl> optional to compile cantor, but not optional to compile cantor with julia support
[15:48] <wxl> FindJulia.cmake:
[15:48] <wxl> REQUIRED_VARS Julia_EXECUTABLE Julia_MAIN_HEADER Julia_INCLUDE_DIRS
[15:48] <wxl> so the julia.h is a requirement
[15:50] <acheronuk> it is. so we have to live without it for now
 Morning
 Work today
[15:51] <acheronuk> afternoon
 wxl: how goes it?
[15:52] <acheronuk> I'll have nuggets please
[15:52] <wxl> ew
[15:52] <wxl> tsimonq2: good. u?
[15:52]  * acheronuk would not actually touch anything McD's
[15:53] <wxl> the coke isn't bad XD
 Just woke up. Good thing someone caught me. It's like 9:50 AM and I have to clock in for 10:30 AM.
 Well I know why their coke is so fresh. XD
[15:53] <wxl> jeez mr. responsibility
 Well I set an alarm but I haz not good sleep last night
[15:54] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, actually McD's coffee here in Canada is very good, I prefer it ot the popular Tin Horton's brand
 Lol
[15:55] <wxl> BluesKaj: your country's love for Tim Horton just shows how incredibly oblivious you are to what good coffee is XD
[15:55]  * wxl is a registered coffee snob
[15:55] <BluesKaj> wxl, read my post again  ;-)
[15:55] <wxl> BluesKaj: oh i did. it's like comparing dog poop to cat poop, my friend. it's still poop. :)
[15:57] <BluesKaj> wxi , have you tasted McD's canadian coffee ? if not, then don't let your coffee snobbery prejudge
 Well the McDonald's I work at just got brats and cheese curds sooooo XD
[15:57] <wxl> i guess it is true that McD's does things different in different places, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. i mean you can get ramen at the hawaiian mcd's
 LOL
[15:58] <acheronuk> wxl: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-julia-devel/Week-of-Mon-20160919/001433.html
[15:58] <wxl> acheronuk: that was where i was going to next. you beat me :)
[15:59] <BluesKaj> wxl, well I'm retired on fixed income, snob coffee is deleiberately avoided :-)
 acheronuk is our expert log searcher XD
[15:59] <wxl> BluesKaj: that's understandable :)
[16:00] <wxl> tsimonq2: that's not coffee. that's desert. with a side of coffee.
 Offtopic dude :P
[16:01] <wxl> acheronuk: am i reading this correctly that the reason Debian is behind on julia is because they don't offer SSL support in their git?????
 9_____9
[16:03] <acheronuk> wxl: "Right, the issue here is this is the debian build where they're using system libraries for everything, and that system copy of libgit2 is not built directly against openssl (I think) so https isn't working."
[16:04] <acheronuk> from the github link ^^^
[16:04]  * wxl facepalms
[16:04] <wxl> however, i'm not sure that means it will actually have the includes
[16:05] <acheronuk> no, it doesn't. but hopefully as debian kde may also want those includes for their cantor, they will bug the julia team about them for that new release
[16:06] <acheronuk> or WE could set Simon on them in full pester mode.....?
[16:06]  * acheronuk runs
[16:06] <wxl> true
 Lol
[16:07] <wxl> although i'm pretty sure that simon's pester mode is a boolean rather than a range
 Who you want me to pester?
 Yeah, on and off switch XD
 Why am I bugging the Julia team? :P
[16:10] <acheronuk> in the end though, it is just optional support. could tell KCI to ignore that and not go orange on it
[16:11] <wxl> could you get it to make it informational rather than a warning?
 ^
[16:16] <wxl> i'm going to see what's in the "official" ppa
[16:17] <acheronuk> that's the thing. I'm reluctant to add it to meta/cmake-ignore as then it goes away on KCI, and if/when there is a fix you won't have that as a reminder, and may have forgotten about it
[16:31] <wxl> yep there's includes
[16:37] <wxl> !info julia zesty
[16:57]  * wxl kicks it jono style
[16:57]  * wxl is listening to REAPING FLESH by Black Breath ♫ https://www.last.fm/music/Black+Breath/_/REAPING+FLESH
[17:11] <wxl> acheronuk: what's up with that new-appstreamqt.patch on discover?
[17:15] <wxl> same deal with the patch on print-manager. i guess it would be good to know WHY.
[17:21] <acheronuk> wxl: that appstream patch was left in there as it might have been needed if we were to backport and were for some reason not able to include the right version of appstream
[17:22] <acheronuk> but there is now a newer change is discover git that enables discover 5.8.4 and discover master branch to build against old OR new versions, so i guess that patch can be removed completely
[17:23]  * acheronuk goes to look at print manager
[17:23] <wxl> ok well you're the expert there so i'll leave that to you :)
[17:23] <wxl> print-manager was disabled by clive
[17:25] <wxl> acheronuk: is "dependancy" how they spell it in the uk? XD http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk/28/parsed_console/job/zesty_unstable_plasma-sdk/28/parsed_console/log_content.html#WARNING2
[17:26] <wxl> why don't you pastebin the entirety of the log?
[17:26] <wxl> oops wrong channel
[17:28] <acheronuk> the thing is KCI is building upstream master code so sometimes patches may be obsolete on there, but may be needed if we use the KCI packaging as a basis to package a very recent stable release.
[17:28] <wxl> ic
[17:28] <acheronuk> so at least at first, the cautious thing to do is disable rather than remove
[17:33] <acheronuk> wxl: nope, 'dependancy' is just a typo 
[17:34] <wxl> k on it
[17:35] <wxl> re: those other two issues in plasma-sdk, i assume just wiping the unnecessary crunch bang would do the trick
[17:36] <wxl> wait but that's an issue with the upstream code derp
[17:37] <wxl> so nothing i'm going to be able to fix about that
[17:37] <wxl> although
[17:37] <wxl> maybe it's necessary
[17:37] <wxl> looks like there are similar additions to lintian-overrides
[17:37] <wxl> so i guess i'll just do that
[17:38] <wxl> although, oddly, the upstream code lacks it on cuttlefish
[17:38] <wxl> w
[17:38] <wxl> t
[17:38] <wxl> h
[17:39] <wxl> oh well
[17:44] <wxl> nothing like weekend nachos on the weekend
[17:54] <wxl> no way
[17:54]  * wxl is listening to Yes Way by Weekend Nachos ♫ https://www.last.fm/music/Weekend+Nachos/_/Yes+Way
[17:54]  * acheronuk pours a glass of something that rhymes with "black spaniels"
[17:54] <wxl> that's my new band name
[17:55] <wxl> yiiiiiiiiiiiiikes holy warnings, peruse
[17:56]  * BluesKaj drinks cough medicine...yeah i do have a cold, I'm not a rubby
[17:56] <wxl> XD
[17:56]  * wxl finishes his tea
[17:57] <acheronuk> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kde-runtime/72/parsed_console/
[17:57] <wxl> O_________________________________________O
[17:57] <wxl> well they're all locale desktops. probablyl not as bad as it seems
[17:58] <wxl> still, have fun with that XD
[18:01] <wxl> aw heck i probably have to build this to figure out the soname ughj
[18:27] <wxl> ugh ther'es got to be a better way to do this
[18:39] <wxl> the solution they provide for this violates the problem to begin with hahahahaah https://lintian.debian.org/tags/description-synopsis-starts-with-article.html
[18:45] <wxl> um regarding http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_pim-data-exporter/lastSuccessfulBuild/parsed_console/ i'm rather confused since control doesn't build any libraries actually
[18:47] <wxl> or maybe it does?
[18:47]  * wxl is confused
[19:08] <acheronuk> it's now a single binary package, so everything goes in the pim-data-exporter package. including the private libraries that it builds. as such it doesn't matter that the soname of that private library doesn't match the package name, and for that library could be overridden
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 Hai guys
 wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl
[20:59] <wxl> oi
 :P
[21:00] <valorie> tsimonq2: have you been jamming caffeine again?
 No I just feel like bugging wxl today :P
[21:00] <valorie> so unkind!
[21:01] <wxl> it's ok since i usually just ignore his ridiculousness :)
[21:01] <valorie> he's been working hard here
[21:01] <valorie> lol
 Well I'm gonna become MOTU this weekend XD
[21:01] <valorie> woah
[21:01] <wxl> then quit bugging me
 Right wxl? :P
[21:01] <wxl> go bug your sponsors
 Well I'm waiting for my ride. :P
[21:02] <wxl> get a bike
 Not with me
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[21:02] <wxl> ride to work
[21:02] <valorie> having a MOTU around again would be awesome
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[21:03] <wxl> valorie: did you see my early mail to the list?
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 wxl: Can you tell valorie exactly what Logan said? XD
[21:03] <valorie> oh, I need to read email
[21:03] <valorie> thanks for reminding me
[21:04] <wxl> 1930 < Logan:#ubuntu-motu> so basically make them sick of you
[21:05] <valorie> yup, pretty much like Kubuntu Devel -- dude, sick of uploading for you, schedule your meeting!
 Lol
[21:08] <valorie> wxl: about your email re:julia.h -- it is always good to talk to the devel team
[21:08] <valorie> and then file a bug
 Wasn't that to kubuntu-devel?
[21:08] <valorie> yes
[21:09] <valorie> thanks for writing a technical email I could easily understand
 Won't filing a bug happen after some discussion with something like this?
[21:09] <wxl> valorie: i try :) but that's not the one i wanted you to see
[21:09] <valorie> the Julia devels might know why includes are lacking in Debian & Ubuntu
[21:09] <wxl> tsimonq2: yeah my thing is i don't know why the bug exists. i feel like it would be a good first step to talk to the debian maintainers of julia
 Then as a wise man once said, "JUST DO IT!"
 :P
 "Don't let your dreams be dreams! Yesterday you said tomorrow!"
[21:11] <valorie> is there grilling for a ninja black belt?
[21:11] <valorie> I thought the work was the grilling
 Nah
 Correct valorie
 I'm +1 fwiw
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 About wxl ninja?
[21:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[21:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[21:54]  * valorie has no vote -- I think the other ninjas or KDs decide
[22:04] <acheronuk> something like that
[22:05] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: wxl for ninja - your vote? :)
[22:05] <acheronuk> I mean KDs decide. not ninjas
[22:05] <tsimonq2> I know
[22:05] <tsimonq2> BUT
[22:05] <tsimonq2> Your opinion?
[22:07] <acheronuk> +0.75
[22:07] <tsimonq2> Oh?
[22:11] <acheronuk> I would just like to see some more good example MPs 1st. not that I doubt walter's ability, but just see more of what he would would push to git if he had that permission
[22:13] <acheronuk> a formality really
[22:14] <acheronuk> if others decide to just ninja him up, I would not have any real objection
[22:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: Go go go :D
[22:16] <wxl> well i'll just keep doing what i'm doing :)
[22:18] <valorie> I love seeing the green!
[23:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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