[04:20] <daftykins> http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/11/dell-xps-13-kaby-lake-review/
[04:21] <daftykins> hrmm new model of my laptop, which a friend is buying soon for Linux use, has shifted to using the nasty 'killer wireless' adapters
[04:21] <daftykins> i wonder if Linux still has issues with supporting those
[05:43] <JanC> Dell sells XPS laptops with Ubuntu?
[05:43] <JanC> XPS13
[05:44] <OerHeks> it comes with free software, JanC, OS Windows 10 Home 64-bit
[05:44] <JanC> I suggest he waits for a linux version
[05:45] <daftykins> no, you can install on them
[05:47] <daftykins> pretty sure they sell the developer editions with Loonix
[06:04] <JanC> well, I suggest waiting for a developer edition because they will test & if necessary swap hardware for those
[06:25] <daftykins> JanC: you don't know about Dell then? they work on it with Linux folk and then put things back into the kernel
[06:25] <daftykins> sounds like there are no problems though according to reports online, things just work out of the box
[06:26] <daftykins> usualy Linux issues like rapid battery killing in sleep, wifi iffy after resume from hibernate etc... but if you're mad enough to get a bleeding edge laptop and ruin it with Linux, that's the least of your troubles
[07:18] <ducasse> hi all
[07:24] <daftykins> good morning
[07:25] <ducasse> hi daftykins - how is life treating you?
[07:26] <daftykins> not so bad here thanks, keeping my funny times as usual though
[07:26] <daftykins> how's about for you? any new exciting toys? :D
[07:28] <ducasse> i'm thinking of buying this, got an offer for a brand new one at a very reasonable price: https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater/receivers/avrx1000
[07:30] <ducasse> i'd only use it for music now, but then i have the option of doing more with it later.
[07:32] <daftykins> neat
[07:32] <daftykins> though in my experience all Denon kit as the most horrible clunky interfaces :>
[07:32] <daftykins> a clients AVR-3313 takes 30 minutes to update itself over the internet X|
[07:34] <ducasse> i just need an amp with digital inputs, this is just the best deal i could find. i found a nad at almost the same prace, but it didn't even have hdmi.
[07:36] <daftykins> ah har
[07:36] <daftykins> yeah doesn't hurt having an AVR
[07:37] <daftykins> i think i'm using all the HDMIs on my little baby Onkyo :D
[07:37] <daftykins> i'll have to replace it if i upgrade to a 4K TV
[07:37] <ducasse> there are small amps intended for playing music from a pc, but the price difference was like £40.
[07:39] <ducasse> nearly spent all my money on black friday deals yesterday, but managed to keep control :).
[07:39] <daftykins> just looked at the spec PDF... which didn't tell me the specs XD
[07:39] <daftykins> haha
[07:39] <daftykins> tell me about it, i nearly bought an nvidia 1050Ti 4GB just because it was £115 delivered
[07:40] <daftykins> i'd have thrown it in my old quad core desktop, but there's just no reason to bother :D
[07:41] <ducasse> besides, it's dumb to buy stuff *just* because it's cheap and fool yourself with the idea you're saving money :)
[07:41] <daftykins> that it is, but i've totally noticed it's a personal failing of mine
[07:41] <ducasse> me too :/
[07:42] <daftykins> what's really evil is how amazon put up the 'list price' claiming they had it for sale way higher before the sale day, when in reality it was exactly the same
[07:43] <ducasse> hehe, that's pretty nasty.
[07:45] <ducasse> they've just started doing black friday here, and this is the first day i actually saw any good deals. last year it was just 15% on toasters etc.
[07:45] <ducasse> i'll be ready next year, though! :)
[07:46] <daftykins> haha, starting simple!
[07:46] <daftykins> mmm there it is, £116.54 delivered for: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zotac-geforce-gtx-1050ti-mini-4096mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-109-zt.html
[07:46] <ducasse> people hardly knew about it last year, but now it was advertised pretty aggressively.
[07:47] <daftykins> mmm it's amazing how quickly this US thing has headed eastward
[07:48] <ducasse> yup. when i was a kid we didn't have halloween either. that's not been a big success here, though.
[07:49] <ducasse> btw; have you seen dr strange?
[07:50] <daftykins> nope! i don't really do films
[07:50] <daftykins> i think we knew of halloween but i still stand by sitting that one out
[07:50] <ducasse> me neither. i used to love dr strange in comics as a kid, though, so i'm considering seeing it tomorrow.
[07:50] <daftykins> i'd like to see The Arrival :>
[07:52] <ducasse> interesting, was a new one to me.
[07:52] <ducasse> i don't keep up at all...
[07:53] <daftykins> our one cinema is... pretty bad
[07:56] <ducasse> more tea! \o/
[07:56] <ducasse> we got a new cinema a few years back, at the time it was supposed to be one of the best in the country.
[08:05] <ducasse> hmmm... the dar tower is coming next year, i'm not sure i want to see that one. i love the books so much, i don't want the movie to spoil them for me.
[08:05] <ducasse> *dark
[08:06] <daftykins> ooh an AMD RX 470 4GB performs about 30% faster for £16 more XD
[08:08] <ducasse> amd, though...
[08:11] <daftykins> yip, i'd say that's only really a problem in Loonix land, but... yeah they suck everywhere :D
[08:11] <daftykins> probably a lot more power to do the same thing
[08:14] <ducasse> i don't understand people who want to use linux for gaming...
[08:15] <daftykins> nah, it's like tying one arm behind your back on purpose
[08:16] <daftykins> there we go, 75W on the nvidia vs. 120W on the AMD
[08:16] <ducasse> terrible :(
[08:16] <ducasse> have you seen the humble bundle unix books thingy?
[08:17] <daftykins> nope!
[08:17] <ducasse> https://www.humblebundle.com/books/unix-book-bundle
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning guys
[08:31] <ducasse> hiya lotuspsychje
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse how are you mate
[08:32] <ducasse> good, thanks. and you?
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> great, day off here
[08:32] <ducasse> any plans for the day?
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> yeah later we have a coffee and pc repair appointment at friends
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> there android tablets gets updates stuck, so ill have a look
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> do updates on their ubuntu box aswell
[08:33] <ducasse> sounds fun :)
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah always nice at their place
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: did you made up your mind about the receiver yet?
[08:35] <ducasse> i'm thinking about it over the weekend, there are a couple of other things i'd also like to have money for.
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> wich are?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> excuse my curiosity :p
[08:37] <ducasse> one more screen for my desktop, for example :)
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> great
[08:38] <ducasse> we'll see, i'll do some thinking.
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> stores should have a formula, when interested in more devices you get 30% off
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> we are always too gentle
[08:39] <ducasse> oooh, yes!
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> screen, receiver and new raspberyPI for 500$ lol
[08:41] <ducasse> :)
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the uncle of my gf, goes to the trash park often, and gets home with like tons of pc material
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> for free
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> you wouldnt believe what ppl throw away, working
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> he gave me like 4 cigarboxes full ddr rams from 128till 2gigs
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> all working
[08:42] <ducasse> i know, it's ridiculous. my dad actually threw a laptop because it had gotten a virus :-/
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> omg
[08:42] <ducasse> i yelled at him :)
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> i think ill make a free service in my business, to take their old stuff back for free :p
[08:44] <ducasse> you can build machines and give to those who can't afford them.
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> good idea
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> got a little issue with my clevo dealer
[08:45] <ducasse> oh?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> he doesnt wanna release his pictures from his website for free
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> and asks like 45 euro/month to release his feed material
[08:46] <ducasse> idiotic. you'll be selling his gear.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> but for starters, i think thats too expensive for just a feed
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> even if i buy 1 per 1
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> he says i can get discount then...
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> bah
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> problem is, its the best barebone company i found this close to my home
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> so im unsure what to do here, perhaps ask main clevo support to use their pictures
[08:49] <ducasse> what are you going to do about it?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> well i need his company, as i needing barebone laptops like that
[08:50] <ducasse> this is far beyond my skillset, sorry. i've always had purely technical jobs for a reason :)
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> with no Os, no ram no hd
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> ill think it over for a while..
[08:52] <ducasse> talk to clevo themselves, see what they say.
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> yeah, think im gonna do that
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> and order 1 per 1 at my reseller
[08:53] <ducasse> not easy to set up a business :)
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah, slowly ill get what i want
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> got a strong will ;p
[08:57] <ducasse> seems you will need that :)
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys, citywalk
[09:28] <ducasse> ok, have fun
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj - how's it going?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, good thanks , and you ?
[12:16] <ducasse> good thanks. soon heading out to the shop, making sure i have all i need.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> shop ?
[12:18] <ducasse> groceries etc.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> oh ok
[12:19] <ducasse> there's a store a couple hundred meters from me, so it's not a long trek :)
[12:20] <ducasse> really nice weather today, so it will be good to get some air. spending too much time inside in winter.