[21:34] <Amgine> How do I troubleshoot why my server does not send e-mail?
[21:34] <Seveas> Amgine: look in the logs.
 postfix/master[10203]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use
[21:37] <Seveas> netstat -pltn
[21:38] <Seveas> or the modern equivalent, ss -pltn
[21:43] <Amgine> https://dpaste.de/U9pR
[21:44] <Seveas> yeah, needs sudo to actually get the processes
[21:47] <Amgine> moment.
[21:49] <Amgine> https://dpaste.de/hrVE
[21:49] <Seveas> so postfix is running
[21:50] <Seveas> that 'fatal' line was probably caused by someone/something trying to start postfix when it was already running. Harmless
[21:51] <Amgine> kk. Let me test again with mail
[21:52] <Seveas> how are you testing?
[21:55] <Amgine> mail -s "Test subject" email@address.tld
[21:56] <Amgine> And it's getting deferred/refused by my hosted mail service. <grumbles>
[21:57] <rbasak> "swaks" is good for testing MTAs
[21:57] <Seveas> s/good/awesome/
[21:57] <rbasak> Speaks SMTP directly to what you want it to speak to
[21:58] <Seveas> Amgine: is this server in a datacenter or at home?
[21:58] <Amgine> at home.
[21:58] <Seveas> yeah, forget it then. Most mail providers blacklist home IP's
[21:58] <Amgine> Ah. Well, that sucks.
[21:59] <Seveas> get a $1/month vps :)
[22:02] <Amgine> The goal for this project was to self-host a privacy-oriented service - friendica.
[22:11] <rbasak> I use my (small, privately owned, anti-surveillance) ISP's SMTP server and host my own IMAP server.
[22:12]  * rbasak doesn't mind surveillance-when-with-a-court-issued-warrant, but considers any other sort of surveillance wrong.
[22:13]  * rbasak appears to be living in the wrong country :-(
[22:15] <rbasak> (and of course my ISP can see my SMTP traffic anyway)
[22:17] <Seveas> and you users' IPS's can as well
[22:23] <Amgine> Gosh I love how attempting fix one thing breaks many others. But yes, I'm not too worried about the privacy thing, just annoyed by the blacklisting of user IPs.
[22:26] <Seveas> Amgine: it's tremendously useful in battling spam though
[22:27] <Amgine> I didn't say I'm opposed to it, just annoyed. On another hand, it *does* mean the mail system is now a private club.
[22:32] <Seveas> not really, anyine can spin up a vps somewhere and send mail