[02:53] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh, do we/does anyone care about hamster?
[20:15] <knome> maybe somebody from the docs team could answer that persian guy about translations
[20:33] <flocculant> talking of translations - never seen this before, Quicklauncher properties on my system http://i.imgur.com/sSg65O6.png
[20:37] <knome> heh
[20:37] <knome> maybe french is in the source...
[20:37] <flocculant> knome: what's the difference between msgid and msgstr in a .po ?
[20:38] <flocculant> en.po is half english and half french :)
[20:38] <knome> id is the source, str is the translated
[20:39] <knome> eg. "Translate msgid to msgstr"
[20:39] <flocculant> ok - so half of the source is English, the other half is French :p
[20:39] <knome> yep, then it's no "surprise" that this happens for you
[20:39] <flocculant> :)
[20:40] <flocculant> no surprise if I'd seen the .po first :D
[20:40] <knome> yep
[20:41] <flocculant> and the fr.po is half english too :D
[20:41] <knome> should be
[20:41] <knome> as the software needs to know which source string to translate to the msgstr string
[20:43] <flocculant> knome: then I'm confused by 'id is source, str is translated' looking at the the 2 .po's side by side :)
[20:44] <knome> msgid should be all english in all files
[20:44] <flocculant> ok - so then it's wrong
[20:44] <knome> indeed
[20:44]  * flocculant then wonders if he can find the interest in dealing with this :p
[20:44] <flocculant> s/then/now
[20:44] <knome> who's the maintainer?
[20:45] <flocculant> where would I find that?
[20:46] <flocculant> blimey - last changelog date is about when I first installed Feisty :D
[20:47] <knome> https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/blob/master/AUTHORS
[20:47] <flocculant> oh right - yea got that from source I grabbed
[20:47] <knome> if it's really that old, and the author is not around any more, i'm pretty sure simon and others could help get that fixed
[20:48] <flocculant> looks to me like most of the .po's have non-english msgid
[20:49] <flocculant> if it is the case that msgid should be english in all cases, perhaps I'll see how to fix it 
[20:49] <knome> indeed it should
[20:50] <knome> well
[20:50] <knome> if the source strings in the source CODE are french, then the msgid's should be in french in order for the translations to work
[20:50] <knome> but that would still be wrong - as the source language should be english everywhere
[20:53] <knome> https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/blob/master/panel-plugin/callbacks.c#L124
[20:53] <knome> here it looks like it's fixed
[20:56] <flocculant> not sure what that's showing me :)
[20:59] <knome> that line means the source translation should have  msgid "Space between launchers:"
[20:59] <knome> not  msgid "Escape entre les lanceurs :"  as your .po likely says
[21:00] <flocculant> oic sorry
[21:00] <knome> no worries
[21:01] <flocculant> never spent so long talking about something french since 1979 ... 
[21:01] <knome> ;)=
[21:02] <flocculant> I guess first thing I should do is report it at bugzilla 
[21:02] <knome> probably
[21:02] <flocculant> assuming that msgid should be en, then I can list all the non en lines there
[21:03] <knome> again considering the newest source code doesn't seem to have anything in french :/
[21:03] <knome> i mean anything that shouldn'y..
[21:03] <knome> t too
[21:04] <flocculant> yea 
[21:05] <flocculant> so actually no bug as such - just what I have is 'old' 
[21:05] <knome> likely
[21:05] <knome> or something else is wrong
[21:05] <flocculant> knome: well thanks for all of that - learnt 2 things this evening :)
[21:05] <knome> np
[21:07] <flocculant> night :)
[21:07] <knome> nighty