[12:09] <ikn> Hello everyone. My mouse always disappeared on the screen. How can I solve it?
[12:27] <flux242> with a mouse trap?
[16:49] <mifritscher> moin
[16:49] <mifritscher> I switched from gnome flashback (compizz) to xfce4
[16:50] <mifritscher> on a nearly fresh ubuntu 16.04
[16:50] <mifritscher> generally it worked well, but following issues:
[16:50] <mifritscher> the touchscreen isn't working
[16:51] <mifritscher> the interesting thing is that xinput disable 10; xinput enable 10 helps
[16:51] <mifritscher> but only for about 10 seconds
[16:52] <mifritscher> how can I debug this?
[17:33] <xubuntu227> hi there
[17:34] <xubuntu227> I'm sébastien from french new caledonia
[17:34] <xubuntu227> I'm installing xubuntu 14.04 LTS and the wifi doesn't work
[17:35] <xubuntu227> the computer is a msi CR61
[17:35] <Spass> hello Sébastien, why 14.04 and not 16.04?
[17:36] <xubuntu227> because I had the same issue on my older computer on 16.04 but the wifi works with 14.04 wich is very surprising
[17:37] <xubuntu227> on this laptop none of the 2 versions make the wifi reliable
[17:37] <mrkramps> it is not surprising depeinding on wifi chipset
[17:38] <xubuntu227> you understood very fast I do not understand a lot of things about all that ;o)
[17:38] <mrkramps> xubuntu227, pls show output of command 'lspci -nnk | grep -i net -A2' in a paste service
[17:39] <xubuntu227> wich is very surprising is that my wifi doesn't work any longer on my older computer since I tried a live usb of 16.04 on it
[17:40] <xubuntu227> 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723AE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8723] 	Subsystem: AzureWave Device [1a3b:2114] 	Kernel driver in use: rtl8723ae 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet [1969:1091] (rev 10) 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device [1462:10f7] 	Kernel driver in use: alx
[17:40] <mrkramps> paste service
[17:41] <mrkramps> and yeah, there's nothing suprising about bad driver support for realtek chipsets
[17:41] <xubuntu227> sorry I can't understand what you mean. Perhaps because of my english
[17:41] <xubuntu227> what else should I past
[17:41] <mrkramps> xubuntu227, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin
[17:42] <mrkramps> for example: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:45] <xubuntu227> Thanks. I tried it. I did past into . What should I do then ? Copy ? and paste there ?
[17:46] <mrkramps> press "paste!" and copy the URL to irc
[17:47] <xubuntu227> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23538691/
[17:47] <xubuntu227> that's it ?
[17:47] <mrkramps> yay, the first basic step \o/
[17:47] <mrkramps> =D
[17:48] <xubuntu227> learning still learning... ;o)
[17:49] <mrkramps> ok, so your wifi is currently working on 14.04?
[17:50] <xubuntu227> not on this laptop. On the other computer  but only on a live session since I tried 16.04. But I only want to make this laptop reliable for the moment. On 14.04 unless you are sure it would be better to install 16.04.
[17:51] <xubuntu227> If this is it I must stop and start another installation later on
[17:52] <mrkramps> well, the simple point of all this is the very unstable support of realtek wifi chipsets and there is absolutely no guarantee how long such a device is working reliable
[17:52] <mrkramps> it might happen it is not working on 16.04 NOW, but will change with the next kernel update
[17:53] <mrkramps> or things get even worse :)
[17:53] <mrkramps> i would still recommend installing 16.04
[17:53] <xubuntu227> you mean there no way to make it reliable at the moment ?
[17:54] <mrkramps> actually ,there is no way of making realtek chipsets working reliable since … ever?
[17:55] <xubuntu227> so I didn't choose the good laptop ...
[17:56] <mrkramps> no, this is rather a common issue and realtek chipsets are used in many many laptop models
[17:56] <xubuntu227> ok. Just pray then, isn't it ?
[17:57] <mrkramps> install linux-firmware-nonfree after installation
[17:57] <mrkramps> this might help
[17:58] <xubuntu227> It will be asked or I need to do it by my own ?
[17:58] <mrkramps> if i recall correctly a manual installation of nonfree formware is required
[17:59] <xubuntu227> Thanks very much. Perhaps I will need your help later to make my older pc wich was working so well to wifi again !
[18:00] <mrkramps> xubuntu227, and another option to work around such wifi issues if - from my experience - to buy a usb wifi dongle with ralink chipset
[18:00] <xubuntu227> ok I will have a look
[18:02] <xubuntu227> before closing how will I easily find this chat ? I've found it during installation
[18:04] <mrkramps> phew, hexchat comes preinstalled and this chat should be pre configured there
[18:04] <mrkramps> but i am not sure to tell the truth
[18:04] <mrkramps> xubuntu227, or https://xubuntu.org/irc/
[18:04] <mrkramps> ;)
[18:04] <xubuntu227> it's ok. thanks for all. I found it on google using webchat xubuntu
[18:05] <xubuntu227> thanks for all. See U
[18:05] <mrkramps> you are welcome
[23:43] <seb_> Hi there. I'm coming back with my wifi issue. I have just installed xubuntu 16 lts. The wifi doesn't work. I have been told sooner to install the nonfree firmware but it doesn't exist for xubuntu 16...