dobeyLStranger: well, or it needs someone to "fix" the s390x test for plasma-framework. it's not about openbox depending on plasma, but plasma depends on openbox02:37
dobeyLStranger: maybe talk to mirv or slangasek on monday, since it seems they've both commented on that bug.02:38
ginggsIs there a problem on the armhf buildds at the moment? Can't locate Dpkg/Arch.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Dpkg::Arch module)07:28
ginggsah, seems it just needed the armhf build of perl 5.24.1~rc4-1 to become available in zety-proposed.08:16
LocutusOfBorgis it normal to sync daemontools? the upstart delta seems droppable, right?09:13
ginggsLocutusOfBorg: iirc, ubuntu phone still uses upstart11:35
mrottenkolberHi, is there a standard guide for keybindings? E.g. what document defines that C-s should always be "save" and C-q should be "quit" etc in Ubuntu. Is it Freedsktop related?13:43
Son_Gokumrottenkolber, no13:56
Son_Gokumrottenkolber: no, it's a convention that was inherited from GNOME13:57
mrottenkolberthere is no reference at all?13:57
Son_Gokuwell, ehh13:58
mrottenkolbere.g. a formal reference13:58
Son_GokuI think it's mentioned in the GNOME and KDE HIGs13:58
Son_Gokubut I'm not sure about that13:58
mrottenkolberhig? human interface guide?13:58
LStrangerI think the first de-facto keybindings standard was from Microsoft, then all others taken it as a template for convenience.14:57
LStrangerOr may be even from Apple, cannot remember who was first with wide-spread GUI.14:58
LocutusOfBorgginggs, somebody (pitti maybe?) told that upstart delta should be dropped, sometime ago16:24
LocutusOfBorgI opened a bug for this, lets see if we can reach a common decision :)16:25
LocutusOfBorgwe should put some statement on ubuntu-devel mail list16:27
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