[00:01] <pubunt> ubuntu sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@
[00:01] <pubunt> why does ubuntu suck so badly wiht sound?
[00:02] <Mathisen> pubunt, maybe you just doing it wrong
[00:02] <pubunt> it just disappeared
[00:02] <Pazooza> My Ubuntu works great.
[00:02] <pubunt> if it was windows, it would be easy but ubuntu sucks when it comes to sound
[00:02] <pubunt> I don't care about yours
[00:02] <pubunt> everyone else's always works balhblahalbhala
[00:02] <Mathisen> pubunt, with that atitude i bet no on "cares" to help you
[00:03] <pubunt> in xubuntu, why does selection sound open another window?
[00:03] <pubunt> really stupid
[00:03] <Ares[m]> Hello
[00:04] <pubunt> ubuntu sucks
[00:04] <opsxcq> linux sound core in general is build to be extemely flexible, jack is an example how things can solve problems that in windows you need thounsands of workarounds
[00:04] <pubunt> one thing windows does better - sound
[00:05] <pubunt> and linux hasn't changed it for so many years....it still sucks
[00:05] <pubunt> and pulseaudio as well
[00:05] <opsxcq> no way, I never see any studio using windows to record anything, mac and linux are the choices
[00:05] <pubunt> they all use mac
[00:05] <pubunt> so no 'and'
[00:06] <pubunt> I have to reboot... if it doesn't work still... I have no choice but to boot windows...  have things to do
[00:06] <pubunt> what a pos
[00:07] <opsxcq> I think that you are really misinformed... here is an example http://ubuntustudio.org/
[00:08] <Mathisen> never need to reboot if you know what you are doing..
[00:08] <Mathisen> well almost never
[00:13] <opsxcq> in 16 years with linux, I get only 1 bug, memory was full, but there wan't any  process using it, no cache using it, load get around 90
[00:13] <opsxcq> only time that I remember that I need to restart the machine
[00:20] <adams1991> Hey
[00:20] <adams1991> Anybody here have a minute to help a noob?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> adams1991: Depends; state the issue ?
[00:22] <slaps> Hei
[00:23] <adams1991> I am just wondering how i can change my UI a little.. i tried to get Gnome via terminal and it fails right at the end
[00:24] <adams1991> @bashing-on I am just wondering how i can change my UI a little.. i tried to get Gnome via terminal and it fails right at the end
[00:24] <Bashing-om> adams1991: K; Show us the command and the result in a pastebin, please .
[00:24] <Bashing-om> !paste | adams1991
[00:25] <adams1991> i will need to run it again one moment.. I dont even know how to dirext a message at you :( fml lol i hate being new at things
[00:26] <debian_server> hola
[00:26] <debian_server> saludos
[00:26] <Bashing-om> !tab | adams1991 All a process of learning, not to know is not a sin :
[00:27] <Bashing-om> !es | debian_server
[00:27] <debian_server> thx
[00:27] <adams1991> Bashing-om, oh cool thats much easier lol.. ok so this time when i ran it, it went faster and returned the following. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23540494/
[00:28] <debian_server> hoi
[00:28] <debian_server> hi
[00:28] <adams1991> debian_server, hey
[00:28] <debian_server> alguien q sepa de redes por aca
[00:28] <debian_server> necesito ayuda
[00:29] <Bashing-om> adams1991: " and 244 not upgraded.
[00:29] <Bashing-om> adams1991: " do in terminal ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . advise IF there are now erorrs .
[00:30] <jb_> Not even a hello bot for my [17:26:15]intro? LOL
[00:31] <converge> is there a font pack of osx fonts to install it on linux ?
[00:31] <adams1991> Bashing-om, It keeps saying command not found :/
[00:32] <Bashing-om> adams1991: What release ? Maybe older bfore "apt" was the utility ?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> !info gnome trusty
[00:34] <Bashing-om> !info gnome precise
[00:34] <Bashing-om> adams1991: Show us ' lsb_release -a ' .
[00:35] <adams1991> Bashing-om, command not found. i think i'm failing somewhere
[00:36] <adams1991> Bashing-om, i'm on ubuntu atm which i think is problem #1.. i tried linux mint some time ago and i remember it being easier to use and run things in terminal
[00:36] <Bashing-om> adams1991: Yuk .. What is not going on here .. anything from ' cat /etc/issue ' ?
[00:37] <adams1991> Bashing-om, adam@adam-Aspire-ES1-431:~$ ' cat /etc/issue '
[00:37] <adams1991> bash:  cat /etc/issue : No such file or directory
[00:37] <Mathisen> adams1991, what are you trying to do ?
[00:38] <erkan^> Hi, has Ubuntu an application: OCR?
[00:39] <adams1991> install Gnome i guess? I wanted to change my UI and tried ( sudo apt-get install gnome ) and it just fails and wont install, i cant even seem to run the commansa that Bashing-on has said to try
[00:39] <adams1991> Mathisen, install Gnome i guess? I wanted to change my UI and tried ( sudo apt-get install gnome ) and it just fails and wont install, i cant even seem to run the commansa that Bashing-on has said to try
[00:39] <adams1991> Mathisen, i'm so new to linux tho its so horrible so dealing with me is going to suck for anyone who tries to help me :/
[00:39] <Bashing-om> adams1991: Ya got me as my result " sysop@1404mini:~$ cat /etc/issue >> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l " . Now until we know what we are working eith there is nothing other we can do . the above IF this is 'buntu suggest to me that you are running an EOL install .
[00:39] <Mathisen> adams1991, sudo apt install pastebinit &&  sudo apt-get install gnome | pastebinit
[00:39] <Mathisen> run that
[00:39] <Mathisen> and give link
[00:41] <adams1991> Mathisen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23540540/
[00:41] <Mathisen> you already have it then " gnome is already the newest version "
[00:42] <converge> adams1991, best way to learn is reading, stay calm :)
[00:43] <adams1991> Mathisen, oh? thats strange, everytime i attempted an install i got errors.. i have no idea how to run it then lol..
[00:43] <adams1991> converge, yeah thats very true.. i guess i will eventually learn as i wont have any other choicem this is my only OS now lol
[00:44] <uxfi> hi adams1991
[00:44] <Bashing-om> adams1991: "244 not upgraded" we must get this system either updated or upgraded to a current release - as the case may be .
[00:45] <adams1991> Bashing-om, maybe i can look into that then and try again?
[00:45] <Bashing-om> adams1991: Trying again is what we are all attempting to help you with :)
[00:46] <dorkmafia> how come my cpu just reboots on start now
[00:49] <Mathisen> adams1991, to update just run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade "
[00:49] <Siva_Machina> apt*
[00:49] <Siva_Machina> Mathisen:
[00:50] <Mathisen> yeah i know
[00:50] <Mathisen> apt-get is outdated
[00:51] <dorkmafia> when i go to install ubuntu the cpu just restarts
[00:51] <dorkmafia> I even tried clearing the cmos no dice
[00:53] <converge> dorkmafia, do a memtest
[00:53] <dorkmafia> k
[00:53] <dorkmafia> is there  a way to do that from grub?
[00:53] <dorkmafia> or should i use my cpu's memtest
[00:54] <Mathisen> dorkmafia, one question does the ubuntu installer start at all ? or does it reboot when you try to boot usb/dvd
[00:55] <converge> dorkmafia, yes
[00:59] <adams1991> Mathisen, sorry for the delay... its doing the upgrade now so i will let you know how that goes and if i can get gnome running
[01:03] <Bashing-om> adams1991: You are aware that to use the gnome desktop is to choose it @ the login screen's login box ?
[01:03] <dorkmafia> Mathisen: it reboots when ever I try to boot
[01:04] <Mathisen> dorkmafia, you sure you made the usb/dvd correct then ?
[01:04] <dorkmafia> the memtest gets about 40% done
[01:04] <dorkmafia> yea
[01:04] <dorkmafia> i used dd
[01:04] <Mathisen> oki
[01:04] <dorkmafia> i can get into grub
[01:06] <raub> How do you can the data format where each data line is a string (array) where the different fields have defined fixed positions?
[01:06] <dorkmafia> def not a good sign if i can only get 40% of the way through a memtest
[01:06] <dorkmafia> and it reboots
[01:06] <dorkmafia> =(
[01:07] <Mathisen> no not at all
[01:07] <raub> dorkmafia: tine to start taking memory out of machine?
[01:07] <rud77> how do I format an iso image to usb from the command line
[01:07] <raub> rud77: dd perhaps?
[01:07] <rud77> I don't know the command unfortunately
[01:08] <raub> as in dd if=file.iso of=/dev/usb/device
[01:08] <Mathisen> rud77, dd bs=4M if=NAME.iso of=/dev/sdX
[01:08] <dorkmafia> yah i guess so already took half out
[01:08] <rud77> thanks
[01:08] <rud77> Will that format the drive first
[01:08] <rud77> removing an old image?
[01:08] <raub> dorkmafia: I would start with one simm card and then add up
[01:08] <raub> rud77: yep. dd will just overwrite whatever is there with extreme prejudice
[01:09] <rud77> do I need to include the pathway to the iso or just the file name itself
[01:09] <raub> rud77: so, make absolutely sure you are writing to the /dev associated with the usb drive. Or, you might be reinstalling things
[01:09] <rud77> got it
[01:11] <rud77> can you change the name of your home directory
[01:11] <rud77> I mean user
[01:11] <rud77> user directory
[01:11] <adams1991> math
[01:12] <adams1991> Mathisen, i was not.. i dont see it htough
[01:12] <Mathisen> adams1991, ?
[01:12] <raub> rud77: can you give an example? Question confuses me
[01:12] <adams1991> Mathisen, you said to run gnome i do it at the login screen?
[01:12] <Mathisen> adams1991, logout and change what X to start
[01:13] <rud77> like /home/name
[01:13] <rud77> can I change "name"
[01:14] <raub> rud77: yes, but you will also need to update the user's profile to reflect the new homedir name
[01:14] <rud77> ok
[01:14] <raub> rud77: To rename, you can use mv
[01:14] <rud77> alright cool
[01:14] <raub> Might need to do "sudo mv" though
[01:15] <rud77> this dd command is taking a while to complete
[01:15] <adams1991> Mathis, cool it works now.. thanks dude.. i actually dont even like the options it gives to change the UI haha
[01:15] <rud77> the cursor is just blinking with no feedback from the terminal
[01:15] <rud77> does that mean it's "loading"?
[01:16] <Mathisen> adams1991, dont understand what do you dont like ?
[01:16] <Mathisen> rud77, yes
[01:17] <rud77> seems to be writing .mod files to the drive
[01:17] <rud77> I've never seen that file type before
[01:17] <Mathisen> rud77, you can pass " status=progress " also after command to show info
[01:17] <Mathisen> but just let it work now
[01:18] <rud77> didn't seem to work
[01:18] <rud77> what are these .mod files
[01:19] <rud77> nvm
[01:19] <rud77> just had to unmount and remount
[01:19] <rud77> thanks for the help
[01:34] <dorkmafia> Mathisen: raub: I got past memory check ... I was able to run memory test on 4 GB but when I go to Install ubuntu it still reboots
[01:34] <dorkmafia> it's a UEFI board
[01:34] <dorkmafia> system still just restarts
[01:36] <Sean_McG> it reboots even with the 4GB?
[01:37] <dorkmafia> yup
[01:37] <dorkmafia> the reboot loop
[01:37] <Sean_McG> do you overclock at all?
[01:38] <dorkmafia> nope
[01:38] <dorkmafia> i reset the cmos too earlier
[01:38] <Sean_McG> maybe one of the sticks or memory slots is marginal, but I would think that would have shown in your memory test
[01:40] <dorkmafia> yup i'm pretty confident in these 4gb
[01:40] <Sean_McG> does it reboot at a predictable point or is it random?
[01:42] <dorkmafia> yup right after i select install ubuntu
[01:42] <dorkmafia> reboot
[01:43] <dorkmafia> it's a HP Z820 if that helps
[01:43] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: A thought . at the boot options screen ' check disk for defects" .
[01:43] <Bashing-om>  checks as no errors ?
[01:44] <dorkmafia> i'll try selecting that check disk for defects next
[01:44] <dorkmafia> i tried "Try Ubuntu without isntalling and that restarted"
[01:45] <OerHeks> Fastboot disabled? SRT disabled, if available?
[01:45] <dorkmafia> that also causes a reboot
[01:45] <dorkmafia> i have to find athat setting
[01:45] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:45] <dorkmafia> yah its uefi
[01:46] <Sean_McG> I wonder then, maybe is there a newer firmware update for your motherboard?
[01:46] <dorkmafia> probably
[01:47] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: Reboot the USB, and as soon as the boot screen clears spam the escape key -> language screen ; escape key again -> boot options screen .
[01:47] <dorkmafia> Bashing-om: i'm in the sys setup
[01:48] <dorkmafia> os power management?
[01:48] <dorkmafia> there is a Turbo power management
[01:50] <Bashing-om> dorkmafia: No, ya want to boot the USB . The boot options are on the disk not in the firmware.
[01:51] <dorkmafia> well it says I need to turn off fastboot, intell smart response tech
[01:51] <dorkmafia> i have been booting the usb
[01:55] <knittell> hello everybody
[01:57] <uxfi> hello knittell
[01:57] <knittell> hello uxfi
[01:58] <uxfi> Hows it going knittell ?
[01:58] <knittell> just hanging around, no questions this time :)
[01:59] <knittell> but because i'm newbee, some info is always interesting
[01:59] <knittell> perhaps i learn some by reading
[01:59] <OerHeks> good start indeed
[01:59]  * Sean_McG is enjoying a Grimbergen at his local pub
[01:59] <knittell> but must be said i get the hang of it already
[01:59] <knittell> fine tx uxfi
[02:00] <knittell> en hello oer
[02:00] <knittell> i think your dutch if i read your name
[02:00] <uxfi> knittell;  im watchng Al Jazeera
[02:00] <knittell> a movie?
[02:01] <knittell> i'm thinking about downloading the firmware of my graphic driver
[02:01] <knittell> not sure or its necessary
[02:02] <Sean_McG> I still need to firmware my GTX 1070 (I have one of the eVGA boards that has heat issues under heavy load) but have to reboot to Windows to do that
[02:03] <uxfi> krisd; check your messages
[02:09] <knittell> doesnt work
[02:10] <werdfriek> (for Ubuntu 16.04) Does anyone know if ln -s is directed? (ie: is there a difference between Ln -s A B  and  ln -s B A?)
[02:10] <werdfriek> And is there a flag/feature to set the name of a soft link?
[02:10] <werdfriek> Give it an alias (but that is displayed in place of the name)?
[02:13] <vfw> werdfriek: Read the man file
[02:14] <vfw> werdfriek: Ln and ln are the same.
[02:15] <werdfriek> vfw: too bad there isn't a channel for discussing wtf the point of having an irc chat channel is in the first place
[02:15] <vfw> werdfriek: What?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> werdfriek: Directed . for explantion : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2316613 .
[02:15] <Sean_McG> to spoonfeed?
[02:15] <werdfriek> for the life of me I would give anything to know why the hell I'm told rtfm and everyone else is welcomed??????
[02:16] <werdfriek> doesn't matter how i feal (or morallity when you prejudice someone)
[02:16] <werdfriek> racists?
[02:16] <werdfriek> what?
[02:16] <werdfriek> want me to be treated differently than others?
[02:16] <vfw> werdfriek: Just trying to be helpful.  (It's what I did.  I looked at the man files, and determined that they were the same.)  What we do here is exchange information.
[02:16] <werdfriek> nho0w youi how you feel?
[02:17] <Sean_McG> wow, stay salty bro
[02:17] <werdfriek> vfw:  then how bout you not be so damn rude and if you don't want to answer shut the hell up?
[02:17] <werdfriek> you see me talk to you (or anyone else here) like that?
[02:17] <vfw> werdfriek: What did I say that was rude?
[02:18] <vfw> werdfriek: Your imagination is running away with you.
[02:18] <werdfriek> I asked in an IRC chat channel for the distribution that I use because I wanted an answer via chat (not some other way) I thought that would be ok
[02:18] <werdfriek> vfw: the next time you ask a question you don't know the answer to and get told figure it out yourself you come tell me the answer to that
[02:19] <vfw> werdfriek: Ok. You got an answer.
[02:19] <werdfriek> I asked for a reason (I asked here in #ubuntu)
[02:19] <werdfriek> I don't even give a sht anymore
[02:28] <doggu> https://www.reddit.comhttp://opensourceforu.com/2016/11/next-ubuntu-touch-version-debut-early-december/
[02:28] <likupgrm> .bark
[02:28] <likupgrm> .bark
[02:31] <werdfriek> moderator - I came to this channel asking a simple, direct question - to which I expected to get an equally simple, direct answer. Instead I am told something to go read/study to find my answer. I''ve been an ubuntu user for over 6 years; and, I don't know what motivates others to come to this channel to ask their question but I do know what motivates me. I hope to simply be given the answer...
[02:31] <werdfriek> ...(the same way I've done for others and seen done most of the time). As it is, when someone responds by telling me to go read about it myself (instead of just answering) I feel alienated and prejudiced (as if I'm not part of some clkique where people treat each other with decency). Can you offer any suggestions on the best way to handle something like this when it is ongoing.
[02:31] <werdfriek> mod ^
[02:31] <Sean_McG> want some tea with that whine?
[02:32] <werdfriek> got that computer to protect you??
[02:32] <werdfriek> lucky little ...
[02:32] <werdfriek> Sean_McG: You black? Mexican? You ever experienced being treated different firsthand!!
[02:32] <werdfriek> Or maybe your one of them
[02:33] <spammy> op pls
[02:33] <Sean_McG> you have no idea.
[02:33] <werdfriek> I'm going to start writing letters to ubuntu corportate until someone listens.
[02:33] <Sean_McG> but I've definitely learned you need thick skin on the Internet.
[02:34] <Sean_McG> and not be a whiny baby like you.
[02:34] <werdfriek> We can talk about it all over the internet news about the differences how people are treated adn talked to and nothing done about it (does that mean it's condoned?)
[02:34] <werdfriek> furck you
[02:38] <tgm4883> werdfriek: relax.
[02:38] <tgm4883> vfw: we don't tell people to rtfm here
[02:39] <Sean_McG> OK so then: man -s 1 ln
[02:42] <prius> hi somebody_
[02:42] <prius> who can help me
[02:43] <Bashing-om> prius: No one until the issue is knowm . right ?
[02:43] <Sean_McG> forgot my mind reading helmet
[02:45] <prius> why
[02:46] <Ben64> a question can't be answered before it is asked
[02:46] <Sean_McG> thats very meta
[02:47] <prius> if my facebook was hacked
[02:47] <prius> what can i do
[02:48] <prius> hee
[02:52] <Sean_McG> dunno, I quit FB years ago
[02:59] <kankusht> good evening
[02:59] <kankusht> I love ubuntu
[02:59] <kankusht> Ubuntu is awesome
[03:00] <kankusht> Ubuntu is great too
[03:01] <kankusht> I have a question
[03:01] <kankusht> A very important question
[03:02] <Sean_McG> we have potentially nonsensical answers
[03:02] <kankusht> awesome
[03:02] <kankusht> thank you very much for answer
[03:03] <kankusht> here is the question: is it good idea to delete windows from a very new laptop?
[03:03] <kankusht> then replace it for ubuntu
[03:03] <Sean_McG> thats personal choice
[03:04] <Bashing-om> kankusht: Culture shock can be tough to adjust to .
[03:04] <Sean_McG> but if you dont have restore media, then reinstalling windows might be impossible
[03:04] <kankusht> I see, so it means that it doesn't matter if I have windows or not in my new laptop
[03:05] <bazhang> kankusht, try ubuntu in a vm first
[03:05] <Sean_McG> bazhang++
[03:06] <bazhang> kankusht, you can even try using ubuntu in a full screen virtual machine such as virtual box
[03:06] <Sean_McG> VurtualBox is free if you need a vm provider
[03:06] <Jonno_FTW> hello, I'm trying to install amdgpu-pro on 16.10 but I get an error after rebooting
[03:06] <kankusht> I use ubuntu studio on my desktop, but I have been reading a lot and I think I have some doubts about OS
[03:06] <bazhang> what doubts kankusht
[03:06] <Sean_McG> so then maybe a VM is a good starting point for you
[03:07] <kankusht> I read about bios updates, it seems that it is impossible to update it without linux
[03:07] <kankusht> sorry I mean windows
[03:07] <greyrabbit> oooh really ?
[03:08] <bazhang> kankusht, try in ##windows for those issues
[03:08] <greyrabbit> like i need to update my BIOS
[03:08] <greyrabbit> but i'am using BackBox
[03:08] <kankusht> I'm not really sure, but I really want to get rid of windows forever
[03:08] <Sean_McG> yes it is rare to get BIOs updates for Linux, but lately I have found most motherboards have BIOS updaters right in their UEFI screens
[03:08] <bazhang> greyrabbit, then get help from the backbox people its not supported here
[03:09] <rocketbomb> kankusht: updating bios is not something you need to do if system is working fine
[03:09] <bazhang> kankusht, you seem to pollling asking about whether to drop windows etc, thats entirely a personal choice and not really on top ic here
[03:09] <Sean_McG> aye, always look at the README for a BIOS update to see if it _actually solves an issue you are having_
[03:09] <kankusht> interesting, so the bios is not that important then?
[03:10] <bazhang> kankusht, of course it is important
[03:10] <Sean_McG> it _can_ be important
[03:10] <kankusht> sorry I mean updating bios
[03:11] <bazhang> again kankusht getting help with bios update in windows is for ##windows , so ask there
[03:11] <nomic> will a file written to a cd (disk burner) .. within ubuntu, be readble by xp
[03:12] <nomic> question
[03:12] <bazhang> kankusht, if you want to ask the poll type should I go full ubuntu then try the chat channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:12] <Sean_McG> nomic: possibly, especially if the disc image ia ISO9660
[03:12] <kankusht> well, I have one year using ubuntu on my desktop I never have updated my bios so I believe it should be fine
[03:12] <nomic> thnks
[03:15] <kankusht> another question
[03:15] <kankusht> how can I install software by compilation?
[03:15] <kankusht> compiling
[03:16] <Ben64> follow the instructions
[03:16] <Sean_McG> you might want to ask that to Google -- there are absolutely tonnes of artivles about how to build software
[03:16] <Sean_McG> articles, even.
[03:17] <bazhang> !compile | kankusht
[03:18] <zotex> !checkinstall
[03:18] <Sean_McG> oooo, nice!
[03:18] <Kres> Yelo
[03:20] <zotex> is there a reason i cant get kali linux to install? i already have ubuntu but it wont recognize kali now...
[03:20] <Sean_McG> I've only recently started experimenting with making .debs and I must admit it's a pain in the ass compared to the other package formats I've dealt with
[03:20] <kankusht> do those commands work in any linux distro? Sorry I'm kind noob :(
[03:21] <bazhang> zotex, ask kali support
[03:21] <bazhang> #kali-linux zotex
[03:21] <Guest23301> What is Linux Mint like?
[03:21] <zotex> okay thanks
[03:22] <bazhang> kankusht, sure most of linux will be good with that compilateion
[03:22] <kankusht> thank you very much, I greatly appreciate it :)
[03:22] <bazhang> Guest23301, a great topic for the chat channels
[03:23] <Guest23301> how would I find chat channels?
[03:23] <bazhang>  /msg alis list term Guest23301
[03:24] <uxfi> Good evening
[03:24] <bazhang> Guest23301, the ubuntu one is #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:25] <Guest23301> thanks
[03:26] <kankusht> I wish you all a wonderful night
[03:27] <Sean_McG> looks like today is #ubuntu-offtopic's 10th anniversary
[03:27] <xangua> <3 you too
[03:35] <Trev_> hello! the only way to download chrome 32bit is with chrominium?
[03:36] <Sean_McG> didn't Google announce they were ending support of 32-bit Chrome over a year ago?
[03:36] <genii> If not longer
[03:46] <eap> is this help or general chat?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> eshlox: It be help for the ubuntu operating system . General chat is ubuntu-offtopic .
[04:00] <wyth> I guess in the future, if anyone mentions using unetbootin, slap them, and tell them rufus
[04:02] <wyth> Used multiple images with unetbootin, and even the attempts using dd didn't give me a bootable usb. Tried rufus and it worked right away.
[04:02] <Bashing-om> wyth: On the move again - finally - !
[04:03] <wyth> Bashing-om: Yep, hehe
[04:03] <wyth> Bashing-om: Successfully got 16.04.1 server installed, no silly desktop environments or anything
[04:04] <wyth> Bashing-om: doing an 'sudo apt upgrade' now, then I'm going to shutdown and re-import my lvm, then move on to trying to re-install all the softwares that got wiped
[04:05] <Bashing-om> wyth: And don't it feel great . Hard work pays off . Now it just the details :)
[04:05] <wyth> Bashing-om: I feel like I've still got a long night ahead of me, :P
[04:05] <wyth> Bashing-om: On the plus side though, I found out that this macbook does support 64bit after all. So at least I've got that major type issue fixed up.
[04:06] <Bashing-om> wyth: One can look at a re-install as a second chance to do better ( this time around ) .
[04:07] <wyth> Bashing-om: Absolutely
[04:12] <max__> hi test
[04:19] <glitchd> can someone help me figure out what this error msg is all about in regards to my floppy drive?
[04:19] <glitchd> Erro
[04:19] <glitchd> Error mounting /dev/fd0 at /media/glitchd/disk: Command-line `mount -t "auto" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/fd0" "/media/glitchd/disk"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[04:20] <glitchd> is it a bad disk or a bad drive?
[04:38] <DarkCanuck> floppy drive? lol
[04:39] <glitchd> DarkCanuck, yes, floppy drive
[04:40] <glitchd_> DarkCanuck, funny, yes. but comedy aside, i need it for a specific reason
[04:42] <tpw_rules> hello. i need an old version of the package nvidia-graphics-drivers-370 from https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . any idea where i might find it?
[04:44] <Sean_McG> tpw_rules: apt-cache search nvidia
[04:44] <tpw_rules> Sean_McG: i mean it has nvidia-370 in it but i need an older version
[04:44] <tpw_rules> i upgraded today and now i'm getting weird issues and i want to go back
[04:45] <Sean_McG> erm, they have 361 and older versions
[04:45] <tpw_rules> no not that
[04:45] <tpw_rules> an earlier dot release
[04:45] <Sean_McG> I doubt they do that
[04:45] <tpw_rules> i mean it was an earlier dot release a few days ago
[04:46] <Sean_McG> oh, then maybe search on launchpad?
[04:46] <Sean_McG> and then download the appropriate .deb files and use dpkg to install them
[04:48] <OerHeks> older versions than 370.28 are removed.
[04:49] <OerHeks> but your nvidia updates was days ago, and current updates give problems, so it is likely not the nvidia driver that is your issue.
[04:49] <tpw_rules> well i just turn on my system for the first time in a couple weeks. but yeah i think you're right
[04:49] <tpw_rules> it's a really bizarre issue so i'm just trying to undo the things that got done
[04:50] <OerHeks> because it is bizarre, no deed to explain what issue you run into?
[04:50] <Sean_McG> you may possibly have the deb already in /var/lib/cache/apt
[04:51] <Sean_McG> errrr /var/cache/apt
[04:52] <Sean_McG> sean@ohana:~$ ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-370*
[04:52] <Sean_McG> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 69276074 Nov 18 16:39 /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-370_370.28-0ubuntu0~gpu14.04.3_amd64.deb
[04:52] <tpw_rules> OerHeks: i have somehow broken matlab's ability to save transparent graphics files, but not load them. i know it's extremely fussy with my video driver and with the installed java so i'm figuring out what changed in hopes of undoing it
[04:56] <iamrohit7> why isn't there a replace ubuntu with xubuntu in the xubuntu-installer? i thought something like that was there before.
[04:58] <glitchd> iamrohit7, why not just install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu
[04:58] <glitchd> iamrohit7, its basically the same thing
[04:58] <glitchd> iamrohit7, but better in my opinion
[04:59] <domino14> is there any way at all to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and then to 14.04?
[04:59] <domino14> do-release-upgrade results in 404s
[04:59] <domino14> apt-get update does as well
[04:59] <OerHeks> tpw_rules, 2016a seems to have a lot of issues
[04:59] <domino14> like am i screwed because i waited too long to upgrade?
[04:59] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade | domino14
[04:59] <domino14> i don't want to remake this whole image from scratch
[04:59] <glitchd> domino14, yea, make usbs of each release and manually upgrade 1 by 1
[05:00] <OerHeks> it will take hours, this old-releases trick, i would reinstall
[05:00] <domino14> this is on a remote server
[05:00] <OerHeks> oh dear, eol upgrading on a remote server, exiting.
[05:01] <glitchd_> OerHeks, lol
[05:02] <glitchd_> "uhh gottagobye"
[05:02] <glitchd_> lol
[05:03] <OerHeks> no, just wondering if this is a VPn server or such, aws
[05:04] <OerHeks> those images are heavily tweaked, you'll need a fresh image from the vendor
[05:06] <klug> curious, ubuntu 16.10 the terminal icon doesn't group together as it did in pre-16.10, any particular way to get that functionality back?
[05:06] <glitchd_> in the taskbar?
[05:06] <klug> yes
[05:06] <glitchd_> yea there is a setting somewhere
[05:07] <klug> I have it pinned there, but once launched a new icon shows, then any new terminal sessions bind to the second icon
[05:09] <glitchd_> are you using unity?
[05:09] <klug> yes
[05:10] <domino14> OerHeks: it's a digitalocean server
[05:12] <domino14> ok about to upgrade.. wish me luck
[05:13] <klug> google shows how to enable multiple icons but not the other way around
[05:14] <klug> it's strange that it's just with the terminal, every other app icons group
[05:15] <glitchd_> klug, sry man i got nothin..
[05:16] <klug> no worries, thanks for input
[05:19] <thunderbolt1379> Hey! I've dual booted my mac with windows and installed ubuntu on an external hard drive. I've installed the rEFIt bootloader for this. I totally hate it. Where do I ask for help in customizing this?
[05:24] <shachaf> I just upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10 on my Dell XPS 15, and two-finger/three-finger right/middle click on the touchpad seems to have stopped working. I'm using Cinnamon. Changes to the "Mouse and Touchpad" settings don't seem to take effect anymore. Has anyone here seen something like this?
[05:27] <aldo> hola
[05:27] <aldo> soy nuevo en ubuntu, algunas recomendaciones?
[05:28] <Flannel> !es | aldo
[05:29] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1198978294
[05:31] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1198978294
[05:54] <shachaf> OK, I've found out some of what's going wrong:
[05:55] <shachaf> `xinput list` shows two different touchpads, "DLL06E4:01 06CB:7A13 Touchpad" (id=13) and "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" (id=16)
[05:55] <shachaf> The touchpad settings thing seems to be modifying id=16, but id=13 is the actual touchpad.
[05:55] <shachaf> Is there a way to get rid of 16 or something like that?
[05:56] <UserUS> shachaf: why not try exploring xinputs options and see if there is an option to delete one
[05:57] <shachaf> There's an option to disable 16.
[05:57] <shachaf> But that doesn't help.
[05:57] <UserUS> what directory are you in?
[05:57] <UserUS> if any
[05:57] <shachaf> ?
[05:57] <shachaf> Home directory.
[05:58] <shachaf> In https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96969 people are suggesting that this is harmless and maybe expected. OK. I don't mind it too much.
[05:58] <shachaf> But the "Mouse and Touchpad settings thing is configuring the wrong one.
[05:58] <shachaf> Any way to affect that?
[06:02] <shachaf> s/d/d"/
[06:02] <shachaf> OK, all this settings thing is doing is writing to dconf or something like that.
[06:02] <shachaf> What reads dconf settings to affect xinput?
[06:04] <shachaf> The answer with cinnamon is cinnamon-settings-daemon.
[06:27] <xubuntu63w> Here what I can read since I tried xubuntu16.04 on live session.
[06:28] <xubuntu63w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23541523/
[06:39] <AndroUser> Hello
[06:40] <AndroUser> How to install vlc offline witouth depedency error in ubuntu 16.04?
[06:43] <cyberspectre> Hey guys, trying to use a PCI RS232 card in Ubuntu 16.04. lspci doesn't list the device. It came with Linux drivers on a disk, but they're for Ubuntu 8.04. http://pastebin.com/G4b6nYJi could someone take a look at the instructions and tell me if it's safe to install this way in 16.04?
[06:44] <cyberspectre> This is actually the first time I've ever had to install drivers for anything in Linux.
[06:45] <AndroUser> How to costume the ubuntu distro? I want make ubuntu with good and complete apps outofbox😊
[06:47] <drjam> good luck to both of you  :)
[06:52] <SynfulAck> I d/c so the question was, Is the ATI rx-480 supported on ubuntu. All i know is the codename: Polaris 10 and part of the Artic Island 4xx Series?
[06:57] <TestingIRC> what is /proc/self/mem for ? whan I read or write to it it says "Input/output error"
[07:07] <triplebooter> Triple booted mac, windows and Ubuntu(Ubuntu on externall HDD). Want Ubuntu to automatically boot when the HDD is plugged in and all the other time normal mac bootloader to show up. What do I do?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> TestingIRC: /proc/$pid/mem can be used for reading the virtual memory of a process. /proc/self/ is /proc/pid/ for the pid of the process that is reading the directory's contents.
[07:09] <Jordan_U> TestingIRC: You probably don't want to do anything with it.
[07:16] <cfhowlett> triplebooter, definitely a question for the ubuntu on Mac forums/wiki.
[07:18] <triplebooter> cfhowlett: thanks!
[07:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !ping
[07:53] <ab_> Hello
[07:54] <ab_> hackadkd
[07:56] <Dead_Office> !ping
[08:00] <Nokaji> Hi, for some reason Ubuntu Software fails to display any software lists, e.g. under All & Installed. Updates states up to date and last checked 06:07. Fortunatley I can install proggies via Synaptic Prog Mgr but I now cannot search for new software
[08:10] <tozen> Nokaji: Have you tried to reinstall SM?
[08:10] <saintromuald> Does anyone know a real nice gui program that sorts out your programs for you. I use i3 as my managing window but I would like to have something that sorts out the programs I have installed because quite frankly I forget the names of the software programs I have installed.
[08:10] <saintromuald> I know synaptic has a history of programs, but it is not sorted out.
[08:11] <Nokaji> I haven't, tozen, maybe I'll do that now
[08:17] <tozen> saintromuald: apt-cache pkgnames
[08:17] <Nokaji> tozen: I tried the remove/re-install, it still has the identical problem
[08:21] <tozen> Nokaji: see your ~/.config is there any software-manager directory available? if yes, then delete it and restart software-manager.
[08:22] <Nokaji> Okay, I'll try that. i'm wondering if my recent upgrade (month ago) to 16.04 from 14.04 caused this
[08:22] <tozen> Nokaji: also could be nice to post your terminal output on <software-manager> command
[08:24] <BELGIUMHERO> http://www.renegadetribune.com/elephant-american-bedroom/
[08:25] <Nokaji> I have a software-centre, yup ... with a softwarecenter.cfg file (only file there), the uninstall deleted 6MB, then 36MB of data, reinstall reloaded 6MB
[08:26] <Nokaji> thanks tozen, how do i post my terminal output?
[08:26] <Nokaji> do you mean start software-centre form terminal and observe messages? - seems worth trying anyway ...
[08:26] <tozen> Nokaji: search google for any pastebin service :)
[08:26] <Nokaji> okie
[08:27] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with installing Lubuntu in VirtualBox. After booting from the iso-image and selecting a language in the installer, the display of the virtual machine gets completely distorted. Does anybody know what the reason could be?
[08:28] <tozen> Nokaji: just type in your terminal <software-manager> end copy/paste all output shown in there
[08:28] <tozen> *and
[08:28] <Nokaji> Hey!
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, try nomodeset
[08:29] <Nokaji> tozen:  I started it in terminal "software-center" and now it has come back to life with proggies listed!
[08:30] <tozen> :))
[08:30] <Nokaji> maybe the reinstall helped as well, not sure but many thanks :)
[08:30] <tozen> Nokaji: y r welcome
[08:32] <Nokaji> now I can get back to playing with my new toy, an ip camera :)
[08:37] <kernello> hello everyone, I have the update warning sign showing on my menu tray, and when I try to run update-upgrade there (and via terminal, too) I get this error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23541966/
[08:38] <Mrokii> cfhowlett: I've just looked into that and it is suggested to edit the grub-menu. However, I don't get it via pressing the Shift-key, as is suggested in the tip I found. :-/
[08:39] <kernello> the full error message window is like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23541971/
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Mrokii, you'll have to experiment with the keys to find it.  try <shift>  and or <esc>.  VBox machines don't work the same as actual hardware.
[08:40] <kernello> this is the error coming when I run update-upgrade on terminal : https://paste.ubuntu.com/23541979/
[08:40] <Mrokii> cfhowlett: OKay, I'll try. thanks.
[08:41] <highas> http://www.renegadetribune.com/aliens/
[08:41] <kernello> and the software updater does not open
[08:44] <jinxi1> when I play movies on my pc I see white flashing lines whenver there a lot of actions in the movie
[08:45] <jinxi1> how can I fix it?
[08:45] <jinxi1> here is my spec.
[08:45] <jinxi1> Sysinfo for 'jinxi-xeon': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.8.4 on KDE neon 5.8 powered by Linux 4.4.0-38-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz at 1200-2265/3300 MHz, RAM: 31643/32122 MB, Storage: 331/2476 GB, 533 procs, 1032.41h up
[08:45] <jinxi1> gfx card is GTX 750Ti
[08:46] <Nokaji> tozen: just as a little feedback on the last problem, in case it helps in the future. Following the process you walked me through, I now have a new (and the old) icon in side panel. The new icon reads "Ubuntu Software Centre" (as I remember it always was), whereas the old reads only "Ubuntu Software"
[08:47] <kernello> ok. solved. found this solution online; sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[08:48] <kernello> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863742
[08:50] <KAYDEN61> MetaNova, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0_BZphQ7Qo "Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust"
[08:51] <cobreadmonster> hey everyone.
[08:51] <cobreadmonster> Can someone give me a hand with installing xchat?
[08:51] <cobreadmonster> apt says that there's no package with that name.
[08:51] <cobreadmonster> "Package 'xchat' has no installation candidate"
[08:51] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, xchat ceased life in 2011.  use hexchat
[08:52] <cobreadmonster> cfhowlett: Oh.
[08:52] <cobreadmonster> that was slightly embarrassing.
[08:52] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, not really.  for some reason the zombie package is still available
[08:52] <cobreadmonster> yeah.
[08:52] <cobreadmonster> that explains why I have it on my Fedora box.
[08:53] <roudhra> hi
[08:54] <pilarwi> Brainwashing: 9/11 & the Holocaust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z3zPWcyfXY
[08:54] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, fun fact: last stable xchat release was ... wait for it ... 08/28/10.
[08:54] <cobreadmonster> wow okay.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, http://xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/?M=A
[08:56] <cobreadmonster> cfhowlett: I already have it on Fedora, I was thinking on Ubuntu.
[08:56] <cobreadmonster> Because I run Ubuntu at work.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, note the release date.  I suggest hexchat for all.
[08:58] <cobreadmonster> speaking of which, can I install rpms on Ubuntu?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, NO!
[08:58] <cobreadmonster> Because for some reason dnf is available in the archives...
[08:58] <cfhowlett> well, maybe
[08:58] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, read the man page for the command alien
[08:58] <zoloback> hey
[08:59] <zoloback> ari sia kunaon
[08:59] <cobreadmonster> cfhowlett: well, sure I mean I wasn't talking about conversion or something.
[08:59] <ars23> cobreadmonster: I tried yesterday to install xchat ( tried to compile it with makefile, tried the package from debian) no success...
[08:59] <zoloback> bodo
[08:59] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, rpm will not install in ubuntu without some serious work
[08:59] <cobreadmonster> cfhowlett: why does apt-get install yum result in yum being downloaded?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> ars23, as stated earlier, xchat was discontinued years ago.  install hexchat
[09:00] <ars23> i know... but I tried because I liked that client a lot...
[09:00] <cfhowlett> cobreadmonster, today I learned you can install yum on ubuntu! try it and see
[09:00] <tozen> ars23: hexchat ?
[09:01] <ars23> tozen: I liked xchat... but because it was discontinued, had to switch to hexchat
[09:02] <tozen> ars23: http://itmages.com/image/view/5243200/9f1d3892
[09:04] <cadeskywalker> weechat is good too
[09:06] <Agiato> How to paint all the cells in Calc with the same value?
[09:07] <bazhang> Agiato, libreoffice?
[09:08] <Agiato> yes
[09:08] <bazhang> might want to try #libreoffice Agiato
[09:08] <Agiato> I know
[09:11] <drjam> im running xchat
[09:11] <drjam> seems to still work ars23
[09:12] <cfhowlett> drjam, possible yes.  advisable?  no.  no updates and no longer in development.  But if that's your thing ...
[09:13] <ars23> drjam: i know, i tried on ubuntu 16.10 to install the deb file from debian repo... you get an unmet dependency but at least it's possible to install and use it. if you don't have problems with that unmet dependency
[09:19] <drjam> ah yes, cfhowlett agreeed, but ive had it instlaled on this rig for llike 300 years so i cbf getting anything new
[09:19] <cfhowlett> :)  understood.
[09:19] <drjam> ars23,  im running good old win7 hehjehe
[09:20]  * cfhowlett has win7 in a VBox but only fires it up 2X a year
[09:20] <drjam> i DO have a bucket list tho.... to remove all mS stuff and only run linux
[09:20] <drjam> but is a...... long term thing
[09:21] <drjam> ive just tried to spin up a linux fileserver..... freenas, rockstor and omv, but none owrked.
[09:21] <drjam> so its basck to old microsoft...dammit
[09:21] <bazhang> drjam, could we take the chatter to the offtopic channel please
[09:27] <rob> hey
[09:27] <rob> there
[09:30] <drjam> bazhang, sorry, i thought you might want some form of actual life in this channel, my bad
[09:30] <drjam> ;)
[09:31] <bazhang> drjam, life is where the chatters are in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:41] <xangua> In Ubuntu 16.04, is tmpfs on /tmp used?
[09:42] <linuxlite> dsfdf
[09:45] <ducasse> xangua: afaik, just a normal dir
[09:52] <xangua> How can I set up tmpfs on /tmp in Ubuntu? Or at least what's the recommended way, via fstab or systemd
[09:54] <ducasse> xangua: http://askubuntu.com/questions/173094/how-can-i-use-ram-storage-for-the-tmp-directory-and-how-to-set-a-maximum-amount#173294
[09:55] <ducasse> xangua: i don''t think how matters, i'd just use fstab.
[09:55] <xangua> ducasse: thanks
[10:05] <i-kill-frogs> i kill frogs
[10:05] <i-kill-frogs> i kill frogs
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[10:06] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.xvideos.com/video5086100/clamped_and_electro_shocked_cunt
[10:06] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.xvideos.com/video1356033/she_s_never_been_tied_up_before_
[10:06] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph57d2d7de5ef50
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !ops | i-kill-frogs
[10:06] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1198978294
[10:06] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.xvideos.com/video5086100/clamped_and_electro_shocked_cunt
[10:06] <i-kill-frogs> http://www.xvideos.com/video1356033/she_s_never_been_tied_up_before_
[10:06] <ghabit> Hello! My friend just installed ubuntu 16.04 and experiencing troubles with networking - it is very slow.
[10:06] <ghabit> How to fix it? What information needed?
[10:07] <linuxlite> ghabit: i duno, lol.
[10:09] <i-kill-frogs> !ops | http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1198978294
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !ops | i-kill-frogs ban requested.
[10:09] <drjam> mate go to ubuntu-offtopic apparently
[10:09] <drjam> according to bazhang
[10:10] <drjam> althou i went ther.....no offtopic chat to be had
[10:10] <drjam> feeling spammed
[10:10] <i-kill-frogs> cfhowlett: lmfao
[10:10] <i-kill-frogs> ban not requested
[10:13] <drjam> ok ive just dis-joined ubunti offtopc.... i was scammed by bazhang dammit. i should know better than to trust internet trolls
[10:14] <LibertyWeNeed> Any one here know if there are network location profiles in ubuntu similar or identical to the macintosh? So that when I am at school and the device needs to be configured for a proxy it is configured a certain way and then when I use the device else where I can configure it differently?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> drjam, 1.  bazhang is a channel mod, not a troll.  2.  your attitude matters.  insults are unwelcome.  read  the guidelines if this concept escapes you.  3.  stay on topic in this channel: ubuntu support
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | drjam
[10:15] <bazhang> which device LibertyWeNeed
[10:16] <LibertyWeNeed> The same one. e.g. a lenovo thinkpad
[10:17] <LibertyWeNeed> So I have one network profile for school and one for everything else
[10:17] <LibertyWeNeed> That way I don't always have to change proxy settings, I just switch profile
[10:24] <LibertyWeNeed> sorry.. if anyone said anything my internet temporarily disconnected
[10:29] <drjam> thank y ou, your attitude of helpfullness is dulynoted, cfhowlett  and ubottu
[10:42] <Jak> Hi all, my ubuntu sidebar is stuck
[10:42] <Jak> may somebody helps me?
[10:43] <shudupaurfaith> put some grease on it
[10:43] <Jak> it doesn't auto-hide like it should be.
[10:43] <bazhang> shudupaurfaith, thats not helpful at all
[10:47] <shudupaurfaith> if you mom isnt stuck in a bar ask her she[ll know
[10:47] <cfhowlett> shudupaurfaith, enough.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | shudupaurfaith read and heed.  or go play somewhere else.
[10:47] <bazhang> shudupaurfaith, please the chatter somewhere else
[11:13] <koroso> hey all
[11:13] <koroso> i'm looking for an apt like paint can you give me some advises please
[11:14] <cfhowlett> mypaint koroso
[11:14] <koroso> ok thank you :)
[11:14] <cfhowlett> happy2help! koroso
[11:15] <koroso> ^^
[11:21] <arm1e> Anyone have issues with Network controller: Intel Corporation Device 08b1 (rev bb)
[11:21] <arm1e> connection keeps playing up
[11:21] <zh1> did a do-release-upgrade on a ubuntu 16.04.1 lts and it didn't go to 16.10, what could be the issue?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> zh1, if you system is set LTS only, won't work.  16.10 is NOT lts
[11:22] <zh1> cfhowlett, ah ok, i see, i will have to install it from scratch then?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> zh1, or change your update settings away from LTS only
[11:24] <zh1> cfhowlett, i was reading that now, so it's possible
[11:24] <cfhowlett> absolutely
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !fcm > koroso
[11:27] <zh1> cfhowlett, then after it i should enable lts again? what do i gain from a lts and non-lts?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> zh1, 5 years support for LTS.  9 months for non-LTS.
[11:28] <zh1> cfhowlett, in average how much time would take me to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> zh1, completely depends on you ISP speed
[11:29] <zh1> if it's like 4mb/ps
[11:29] <zh1> its the time it gets to get the iso?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> zh1, torrents is a faster download and you can cleanly install.
[11:30] <zh1> cfhowlett, yes i know, but i'm remotelly on the pc
[11:30] <cfhowlett> zh1, LOL
[11:30] <zh1> cfhowlett, or do you mean remote torrent?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> zh1, get your calculator out.  .iso size/4mb per second
[11:31] <zh1> this will take a while then
[11:31] <cfhowlett> zh1, as you are on remote, upgrade in place.  but why, exactly do you need to upgrade to 16.10?
[11:32] <zh1> cfhowlett, it's always good to upgrade no?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> no
[11:33] <zh1> cfhowlett, excuse my ignorance, but exactly why?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> if the only reason you're upgrading is that you "should", I strongly suggest you stay with LTS.  Fewer headaches and a more polished experience.  LTS are meant for long-term use.  non-LTS are more experimental
[11:34] <zh1> cfhowlett, but can't i enable lts again after?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> zh1, of course
[11:34] <zh1> then? its ok
[11:34] <cfhowlett> zh1, up to you
[11:34] <Ben64> it's not a switch
[11:35] <ducasse> zh1: but you will need to reinstall to get back on an lts release
[11:35] <Ben64> if you upgrade to 16.10, you'd have to upgrade to 17.04, 17.10, then finally 18.04, or reinstall 16.04
[11:35] <zh1> ducasse, so the upgrade is useless?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> true ^^^
[11:35] <ducasse> zh1: of course not
[11:37] <zh1> ducasse, i dont get why i need to reinstall if i upgrade and switch to lts
[11:37] <ducasse> zh1: you can upgrade to 16.10, but if you then decide that an lts release is better for you then you will need to reinstall 16.04
[11:37] <cfhowlett> zh1, LTS > LTS is one path.  otherwise you can only jump from one release to the very next release.  if you forget to do that within the time limit, you must clean install the next verssion
[11:37] <zh1> by the way the upgrade as already started...
[11:39] <zh1> ducasse, but if i am already on a 16.10 why i would need to reinstall a 16.04?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> 16.10 is not an lts.  next lts would be 18.04.
[11:39] <zh1> ah ok
[11:40] <zh1> lolol
[11:40] <zh1> if it's just that...
[11:40] <phyzz> how do I permanently disable mouse acceleration in ubuntu 16.04?
[11:40] <zh1> no stress...
[11:41] <zh1> cfhowlett, ducasse i get it now, that thing has a time limit to upgrade
[11:41] <evhTap> Hey
[11:41] <evhTap> I need help
[11:41] <evhTap> With LAMP
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !ask | evhTap
[11:42] <ducasse> zh1: now you will need to upgrade every six months or so
[11:42] <zh1> ducasse, but my idea is to always upgrade
[11:42] <ducasse> zh1: as long as you do that you are fine
[11:42] <zh1> question is that if i can always upgrade from a lts and non lts, after releases
[11:44] <zh1> cfhowlett, ducasse after i upgrade to the 16.10 should i switch back option to lts at software upgrades menu?
[11:44] <ducasse> zh1: no
[11:44] <zh1> ducasse, so i have to wait for 18.04?
[11:44] <ducasse> zh1: no
[11:45] <evhTap> I'm making an Alexa-like program with JS. My site will he hosted on an Ubuntu LAMP laptop and only accessible by devices connected to the same LAN using local host. IT'S NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE. ONLY I CAN USE IT. I'm using front end JS for voice recognition and processing. Question is, if I say "Alexa, sublimetext" how do I make sublime Text open on the
[11:45] <evhTap> laptop that is hosting the site
[11:45] <ducasse> zh1: 18.04 is the next lts, you will upgrade to 17.04 next
[11:45] <zh1> ducasse, yes, i mean 17.04 first sorry
[11:45] <cfhowlett> zh1, you need to make a choice. if you want LTS only, stop your upgrade.  otherwise set it to upgrade ever release and hope every things run smoothly every 6 months.
[11:45] <Kingsy> guys, what can I use for power management in ubuntu? At the moment when I close my laptop lid it isnt going into standby
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Kingsy, tlp (the laptop project)
[11:46] <zh1> cfhowlett, ducasse i think i need to read a ubuntu doc link on this to remember
[11:47] <ducasse> zh1: just remember that you can only upgrade to the following release, unless you are on lts which can also upgrade to the next lts directly
[11:47] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: does it have a GUI?
[11:47] <Kingsy> or jsut a cli?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> Kingsy, cli
[11:47] <zh1> ducasse, ah ok, now i get this lts point, it's a jump with a jump
[11:48] <zh1> cfhowlett, ducasse thanks for the quick explanation
[11:49] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: pretty strange.. not seen this before.. is it a daemon or something? I didnt see systemd start any services.
[11:49] <Hikikomori> Hi, whats the best linux web browser at the moment? Except Chrome and Firefox
[11:49] <ducasse> Hikikomori: 'best' is subjective.
[11:49] <brainwash> !best
[11:50] <tomreyn> evhTap: you are trying to figure out how to run system commands from (I assume) server-side javascript. that's not really an ubuntu support question, but a javascript 'programming' question. i suggest you ask this in #javascript (or elsewhere).
[11:50] <cfhowlett> Kingsy, http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html
[11:50] <zh1> Kingsy, there is powertop, i dont know if exists something better
[11:51] <Hikikomori> I mean light weight, fast and have inspection tools
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !browser | Hikikomori
[11:52] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: thankyou! that is spot on.. does everything
[11:52] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Kingsy
[12:02] <heybroken> have some problems here with instalation. Can someone help me? This is what happens when i trying to install ubuntu on my pc http://i.imgur.com/kJNWeql.jpg
[12:03] <Kingsy> cfhowlett: hrm, doesnt look like it handles lid closed events tho. Just battery power management
[12:03] <Kingsy> must be anything way of doing it... *back to google*
[12:04] <SynfulAck> lmfao
[12:04] <ducasse> Kingsy: i think that is handled by logind
[12:04] <Kingsy> yeah I think so ducasse
[12:04] <Kingsy> just reading about it now
[12:04] <SynfulAck> heybroken, you might look into adding a parameter before bootup, i think its called nomodeset. The issue is prob sumin to do with the graphics card.
[12:05] <ducasse> Kingsy: see the lidswitch options in /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[12:05] <heybroken> SynfulAck, already tried nomodeset.
[12:05] <heybroken> Still nothing
[12:05] <zh1> to move unity desktop launcher bar at 16.10, will i need to install any tool?
[12:06] <Kingsy> ducasse: thankyou sir
[12:06] <SynfulAck> lmao, thats unfortunate. Can you atleast try ubuntu live?
[12:06] <SynfulAck> without issue.
[12:08] <heybroken> Actualy no. Cant load ubuntu live. Same problems with graphic
[12:08] <heybroken> Dont know what is wrong here. W7 works fine
[12:09] <SynfulAck> heybroken, have you tried testing the media before bootup to verify the iso is not corrupted.
[12:10] <PainShifty> Hi
[12:10] <heybroken> I downloaded it from official website. Also tryied ubuntu on this PC few mouths ago without any issues
[12:10] <PainShifty> Can you help me about bash/c Programming
[12:14] <SynfulAck> heybroken, id run the 'test media' option unless you got a better idea. I just chimed in cause i had a similar issue years back that was frustrating. I ended up installing Fedora at the time which had no issues.
[12:14] <ducasse> P930X[m]: try #bash for bash scripting
[12:14] <SynfulAck> prob cause they supported newer hardware better.
[12:18] <ducasse> heybroken: you really should check the image
[12:27] <wolwox> Hi
[12:27] <wolwox> Just trying out
[12:31] <Kingsy> ducasse: hrm still doesnt work.
[12:31] <Kingsy> having a nightmare with this.. :P
[12:35] <ducasse> Kingsy: what did you do?
[12:37] <Kingsy> ducasse: http://hastebin.com/aperuwidix.ini <-- then systemctl restart systemd-logind
[12:38] <Kingsy> dint work so then i rebooted..
[12:40] <ducasse> Kingsy: this could be an acpi problem, but that is unknown ground to me. which desktop are you using?
[12:43] <Kingsy> ducasse: just openbox, no DE
[12:44] <ducasse> Kingsy: then nothing there should override this, unless you are using some power manager thingy.
[12:44] <Kingsy> oh.. well I installed gnome-power-manager...
[12:44] <Kingsy> perhaps I should bin that off?
[12:45] <ducasse> Kingsy: it's worth trying without it.
[12:46] <Kingsy> ok, I purged the package.
[12:47] <Kingsy> ducasse: still didnt work.. its worth saying tho that when I close the lid it is goign into screensaver.. so SOEMTHING is getting triggered.
[12:47] <Kingsy> looks like gdm or something
[12:47] <Kingsy> because its gnome
[12:48] <ducasse> Kingsy: you could try 'systemctl stop gdm' so you are left with a console, and try then.
[12:48] <Kingsy> ducasse: left with a console?
[12:49] <ducasse> Kingsy: kill x, gdm etc
[12:49] <Kingsy> ducasse: sudo systemctl | grep gdm says gdm isnt even running
[12:49] <Kingsy> I am using lightdm as my login manager.
[12:49] <tomreyn> heybroken: any luck?
[12:49] <ducasse> Kingsy: then try with lightdm
[12:50] <Kingsy> alight
[12:51] <Kingsy> ducasse: curious, how do yuo go about killing services? previously I have always done it via ps aux | grep <whatever>; kill <pid>
[12:51] <Kingsy> for example in this case we wait to kill lightdm and X
[12:51] <Kingsy> not sure that would translate well using my method... :P
[12:51] <ducasse> Kingsy: you can still do that, but for a systemd service i use systemctl
[12:52] <invincible> hi
[12:52] <Kingsy> a;righty
[12:53] <invincible> hello
[12:53] <ducasse> !ask | invincible
[12:54] <invincible> how to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10
[12:54] <Kingsy> ducasse: ahhh that worked.. without lightdm
[12:55] <ducasse> Kingsy: ok, so something is starting along with x that blocks it.
[12:55] <ducasse> Kingsy: i've gtg, but now you should be able to narrow it down
[12:55] <invincible> anyone
[12:56] <Kingsy> ducasse: alright mate, thanks for the pointers
[12:57] <ducasse> invincible: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110477/how-do-i-upgrade-to-a-newer-version-of-ubuntu#110483
[12:57] <ducasse> Kingsy: np, hope you get it. good luck!
[12:58] <invincible> since i m upgrading from a lts version to a no-lts version i.e, why it doesn't upgrade
[13:00] <Hikikomori> There is anything better than open office for linux?
[13:01] <kk4ewt> libreoffice
[13:01] <Hikikomori> thanks
[13:01] <kk4ewt> all the development is in libreoffice now
[13:07] <wonderment> i am looking at distrowatch and I noticed that deban is more popular than ubuntu. How is this possbile?
[13:07] <Hikikomori> more one question: best cd burning app for linux?
[13:09] <aus_mal> Hello everyone. After upgrading to 16.10 just now, I now have more options for resolution but I lost the option for 1600x900, is there a way to get it back?
[13:09] <Hao> dd
[13:11] <kk4ewt> Hikikomori, myself i perfer k3b for burning to cd/dvds
[13:15] <pidof_> hii all
[13:16] <pidof_> anybody know, how to install ms office on ubuntu ?
[13:17] <zh1> how can i reset ubuntu terminal colors to its defaults?
[13:18] <joeytwiddle> pidof_, you would probably be better off installing LibreOffice or OpenOffice
[13:23] <ghabit> Hello! Networking is very slow under 16.04, can anyone tell me where to read what can I test or do with it?
[13:26] <pitiye> how do i fix this  ? Package qtscript5 is not installed. <<<<<<
[13:28] <ioria> !info qtscript5-dev
[13:33] <gaurav__> Read aloud PDF software
[13:34] <Kingsy> what is the best way on ubuntu of removing all tracesof gnome?
[13:34] <Kingsy> its got to be related to this problem I have having with suspend.. so i want to get rid of in completely.
[13:37] <myth_>  /clear
[13:37] <pitiye_> i can't install CopyQ on 16.04 , can any one point me to a working guide ?
[13:41] <isky007> hi
[13:41] <isky007> i am connecting another computer to the wlan, it receives a ip, but i cannot ping the gateway
[13:41] <isky007> o any computer in the network
[13:41] <isky007> any idea what i should do?
[13:42] <isky007> ifconfig, /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts seems right. I've been fiddling around with proxy to get this laptop work on my office but else i do not know what to do
[13:44] <for{}> how can i disable hexchat users list?
[13:44] <for{}> being displayed
[13:49] <zizi> hi...is there any way to convert daily 16.4.1 iso to normal? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xenial/daily-live/20161127/
[13:52] <Kingsy> omg this is so so frustrating hah
[13:53] <zizi> ؟؟؟
[13:54] <Kingsy> zizi: trying to figure out how gnome or X is overriding my logind settings for suspend when the laptop lid is shut.
[13:54] <Kingsy> (if the question marks were for me) :P
[13:59] <rskumar> hi, i installed ubuntu 16.04.1 fresh and things were working fine. Then I updated, a new kernl was installed in update, and now suspend is not working. Well, getting few more issues other than suspend
[14:00] <rskumar> when I choose previous kernel while booting, it too has same issue.
[14:06] <battleaxe> kind of an idiotic question, but can i use an buntu live cd to shrink my win7 partition, down to say ~20-25gb from its current 75gb? writing the changes and all, just not installng ubunu at this tim.
[14:07] <tomreyn> rskumar: this suggests that the kernel update is not the source of the issues you are seeing, but something else is. i'm afraid i can't tell which other configuration changes (you made) or software updates may be causing it. you could review your kernel logs in /var/log/ to see how suspend / resume failed, then search the web for this error message. this may bring up a bug report and a workaround.
[14:10] <tomreyn> battleaxe: yes, there is a utility called gparted which you can use for this purpose.
[14:10] <battleaxe> thanks tomreyn!
[14:14] <tomreyn> battleaxe: alternatively use http://gparted.org/livecd.php ; yet another approach which may work is to shrink the partition (and file system) from within the running windows system using disk management (diskmgmt.msc)
[14:18] <dorkmafia> i'm super stuck on trying to install ubuntu on a hp z820
[14:18] <battleaxe> from within the system! sounds scary. i remember using gparted, i'll try that, thx
[14:19] <dorkmafia> keeps rebooting after I select install
[14:20] <kervala> Hi there :)
[14:21] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03266085
[14:21] <kervala> I'm a maintainer of a MMORPG in USC, unfortunatly I can't update it anymore. I can't modify packaging information on https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/ anymore :(
[14:22] <kervala> The problem is most of tutorials are not updated and are always talking about Debian packaging...
[14:22] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: yah i can't even get to install it though
[14:22] <kervala> like https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/commercial-apps-packaging-setup/
[14:23] <kervala> so my question is : have we a way to continue packaging in Debian format ? or should I switch to something else ?
[14:23] <dorkmafia> I also have no drive in the embeded SCU port
[14:24] <kervala> (and I would need to support all Ubuntu versions from Precise)
[14:24] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: you would not need to install ubuntu to make changes to your firmware configuration. your second statem,ent suggests this is not the issue you are running tinot, though, in this case, i'd suggest you try a firmware (bios / uefi) upgrade.
[14:24] <dorkmafia> the only supported image i could find was 12.x ubuntu
[14:25] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: I think I have to install windows to get the firmware
[14:25] <dorkmafia> my windows install got hosed
[14:25] <dorkmafia> i cant even boot into windows anymore
[14:25] <Ntemis> hi
[14:26] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: also, since you don't need to use the SCU RAID Option ROM, make sure oyu use "legacy bios" mode, not uefi.
[14:26] <Ntemis> i need some help please , when i run apt update i get this line: AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors.
[14:26] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: most of the time you don't need windows to inustall HP firmware upgrades.
[14:29] <dorkmafia> ok legacy bios mode for PXE Option ROMS? or Mass Storage Option Roms?
[14:29] <dorkmafia> i don't see a SCU RAID Option ROM specifically
[14:30] <dorkmafia> http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=wk_149650_1&swEnvOid=4059
[14:30] <dorkmafia> all i could find about the bios
[14:36] <tomreyn> create a freedos bootable usb key. download the bios update from http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=5225042&swLangOid=8&swEnvOid=4185 unpack it and place the contents of the (unpacked) "DOS Flash" directory on your freedos usb stick. then boot off it and use the dosflash.exe command to flash the J63_0391.BIN file.
[14:36] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: ^
[14:36] <tomreyn> all of this is not really within the scope of ubuntu support anymore, though, you could try the ##hardware channel
[14:42] <dorkmafia> ok
[14:43] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: thank you very much I will try this later today I'm a bit burnt out on it right now
[14:46] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: welcome. in case it motivates you more, it does seem to be possible to run 16.04 on this system. (i ran into this unrelated bug report where someone seems to be running 16.04 on a z820 - based on the systems' hostname) https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/293989
[14:49] <z4ki> hello
[14:52] <isky007> hi, anybody can help me? i have an ip adress from my wlan router but i cant ping it...
[14:53] <isky007> tcpdump seems normal...
[14:53] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | isky007
[14:54] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: thanks :) I wonder if they installed 12 and then upgraded
[14:54] <isky007> i do not know what is wrong with this computer, it should give me a ping...
[14:54] <isky007> so what should i check?
[14:54] <isky007> is this ok for an answer?
[14:54] <isky007> I man i do not get network unreachable, it does simply not respond...
[14:55] <isky007> tcpdump says echo icmp  and udp sum ok
[14:55] <dorkmafia> tomreyn: i found this as well http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=wk_139204_1
[14:56] <SchrodingersScat> isky007: can you ping other things? is your router supposed to respond to ping?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> isky007: perhaps more a question for ##networking ?
[14:57] <isky007> SchrodingersScat: no i cannot ping (192.168.178.51) from this computer, i am writing, but i can ping the router (192.168.178.1)
[14:58] <isky007> ok will try on networking
[14:58] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: this won't get you the latest bios (which was released this year), but i guess 14.04 is already better than 12.04.
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> isky007: so what's 178.51 supposed to be?
[15:01] <isky007> not working computer
[15:01] <isky007> well not pinging
[15:01] <dorkmafia> well i can't even boot the cpu right now so 14 is better than 0 ;D
[15:01] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: ...which is why i suggested the bios upgrade
[15:05] <tomreyn> dorkmafia: actually this 14.04 "Installer Kit" is just a data iso which contains hardware specific (?) drivers, specifically nvidia drivers for ubuntu 14.04. to use it, ubuntu 14.04 must already be installed and booting.
[15:06] <dorkmafia> yeah it was at one point but I had to have the usb stick in to make it boot
[15:07] <dorkmafia> so i was trying to repairt he boot portion of my ssd and I think that's when I broke the windows and ubuntu install
[15:07] <dorkmafia> it's a clean cpu no data lost
[15:07] <tomreyn> hi zaki
[15:07] <dorkmafia> so i'm trying to just install from the ground up
[15:08] <dorkmafia> I just gotta step away from it for a little bit
[15:08] <tomreyn> alright dorkm.
[15:33] <hamdjan> hi ubuntu server is basically ubuntu without DE?
[15:36] <hamdjan> no, it has also certain kernel options to improve its performance for server rather than desktop use
[15:37] <kk4ewt> so you are saying there is a server kernel and a desktop kernel?
[15:37] <kk4ewt> can you show me a link with that please
[15:38] <kk4ewt> a DE puts a large overhead on a system
[15:38] <hamdjan> "The main differences are that there is no GUI with a server install and it uses a kernel that is optimized for server rather than desktop functions.
[15:38] <hamdjan> " https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1189190
[15:39] <tomreyn> there are no longer separate desktop and kernel images in current ubuntu releases
[15:39] <kk4ewt> hamdjan,  but show me on the buildserver where they are building separate kernels
[15:39] <tomreyn> there are no longer separate desktop and server kernel images in current ubuntu releases
[15:39] <tomreyn> ^typo fixed
[15:40] <ioria> hamdjan, check the date : 2009
[15:40] <hamdjan> tomreyn, i see, so its basically just ubuntu without DE nowerdays
[15:42] <ioria> hamdjan, not properly... ye, if you don't install anything else durin the install process
[15:42] <tomreyn> hamdjan: yes, i would think so. the ubuntu-server installation media may come with different defaults such as for partitioning and package selection etc. but i'm not sure about this.
[15:42] <ioria> hamdjan, ubuntu server gives you the ability of install several pkgs that you should install manually on Desktop
[15:43] <ioria> hamdjan, lamp, ssh sever, postfix, etc. etc ...
[15:43] <khyrthy> hello !
[15:43] <ioria> hamdjan, with server you can install all in one shot
[15:47] <khyrthy> wulf, welcome to #ubuntu !
[15:47] <hamdjan> so, i got a degraded raid10 here. do you recommend to first fix it and then move from opensuse to ubuntu?
[15:49] <khyrthy> welcome
[15:49] <Wulf> khyrthy: thanks
[15:49] <Wulf> khyrthy: thanks
[15:49] <Wulf> hmm.. semi intelligent bot?
[15:50] <khyrthy> what ?
[16:17] <willmore> Is this still the suggested way to setup a wireless network interface from the command line on xenial? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configure_your_wireless_interface
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> willmore: seems good info, what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:22] <pesari> willmore: you could try "nmtui" for a much easeier method
[16:24] <ady-y> oh porco dio
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> !english | ady-y
[16:25] <ady-y> hello
[16:25] <willmore> lotuspsychje, I have a little SBC with wireless and ethernet and I'd like to try the wireless connection, but I'd like for the changes not to be perminent--so that a reboot will revert to ethernet.  But, if wireless doesn't connect, ethernet should be fine.
[16:25] <willmore> pesari, I will google that.
[16:25] <maciej> hi
[16:28] <ars23> Hi maciej
[16:31] <CaBa> hi
[16:31] <linocisco> sorry for my libre office writer question here. I have written document made in A4 size. I want to give it to Advertising company with reduced size like 1/4 of A4. how can I make it? I trie to change it under Format/page. but appearance changed
[16:34] <virtoki> attente: It's me the Eclipse appmenu guy. I got it figured out.
[16:39] <CaBa> is there anything i should know about when trying to use a root_squash'ed /home fs for a 16.04 client?
[16:39] <willmore> pesari, nmtui worked great, thanks.
[16:39] <CaBa> is that generally discouraged?
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | pesari
[16:43] <virtoki> !cookie
[16:46] <willmore> lotuspsychje, mischief managed.
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> willmore: great!
[16:56] <hamdjan> why is there no "try ubuntu server" in its live usb?
[16:56] <ikonia> because it doesn't have a liveusb
[16:56] <ikonia> it's an install based build only
[16:56] <hamdjan> oh i see
[16:57] <hamdjan> why doesn't xubuntu live usb ship mdadm?
[16:57] <hamdjan> does ubuntu live usb maybe ship mdadm?
[16:57] <hamdjan> i need it to repair my raid1 rootfs
[16:58] <ikonia> ok, just install it ?
[16:58] <hamdjan> i installed it, but i think mdadm needs to be available on boot to detect the md drives?
[16:58] <ikonia> you where asking about this in ##linux and advised what to do
[16:58] <ikonia> manually assemble the device then
[16:58] <hamdjan> hm ye, that'd be an option
[16:58] <ikonia> or use open suse live media, which is what you are trying to recover
[16:59] <hamdjan> you are right, going to try opensuse live media
[17:01] <hamdjan> oh, maybe i could've simply run `sudo mdadm --assemble --scan`
[17:01] <ikonia> as I said, manually assemble it
[17:02] <hamdjan> I see, i thought you mean i should find the devices myself and add them with mdadm, gotcha now
[17:02] <ikonia> no, just start the array
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows the packagename of this borderless terminal? http://www.deviantart.com/art/Fvwm-08162016-628646491
[17:06] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: not for this channel
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: doesnt ubuntu has something similar?
[17:07] <ikonia> no idea, it has many terminal builds with many options in each
[17:08] <ikonia> the desktop he's using in that screen shot has many examples, eg: http://fvwm.org/screenshots/2011-12-10_Axelle-Apvrille-1024x640/screenshot.png
[17:08] <rskumar> how ccan i update to latest kernel from 4.4.0 (ubuntu 16.04)
[17:08] <ikonia> rskumar: wait for ubuntu to release a kernel package from the supported repos
[17:14] <rskumar> ikonia: i am having lot of issues on fresh 16.04 install. I cannot work on ths system until few things get fixed. So i want to update to latest kernel
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransparentTerminals
[17:14] <avenger_q_> MY COCK IS SO HARD
[17:14] <avenger_q_> MY COCK IS BIG AND FAT AND HARD
[17:15] <avenger_q_> 16.04 MADE MY COCK SO BIG AND FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:15] <Daekdroom> !ops
[17:15] <avenger_q_> 16.04 MADE MY COCK SO BIG AND FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:15] <avenger_q_> 16.04 MADE MY COCK SO BIG AND FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:21] <mcc> hello everyone
[17:22] <rskumar> hi mcc
[17:24] <mcc> do u know a good video tutorial about creating layout for most screen size  ?
[17:25] <mcc> i need to a good tutorial abut it
[17:26] <ikonia> for "most" screen sizes ?
[17:26] <ikonia> xorg is dynamic and should adjust depending on the screen size on it's own
[17:29] <mcc> how to support all screen size ?
[17:29] <ikonia> it should do it automatically
[17:29] <mcc> i have seen a tutorial that create layout for some  devices with  differ screen size
[17:30] <ikonia> right - however it should now do it automatically
[17:30] <ikonia> mcc: do you actually have a problem that needs fixing ? or are you talking about hypothetically
[17:31] <mcc> have problem
[17:32] <ikonia> ok - explain the problem, and people will help if they casn
[17:32] <ikonia> can
[17:33] <gebruiker> google fonts - any easy way to isntall them?
[17:34] <ikonia> you don't install them
[17:34] <ikonia> thats the whole point
[17:35] <gebruiker> ikonia: why?
[17:35] <ikonia> why what ?
[17:35] <gebruiker> why did you say that?
[17:36] <ikonia> because they are web rendered, so you can install them but the whole point is them to be "from the web"
[17:36] <ikonia> it's the the FAQ from google, have you read this yet before asking in a linux channel ? https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq
[17:37] <ikonia> or you can download direct from the fonts page https://fonts.google.com/?selection.family=Roboto
[17:37] <ikonia> (for example)
[17:37] <ikonia> win 1
[17:37] <ikonia> oops
[17:37] <gebruiker> ikonia: i want to use them on my desktop
[17:38] <ikonia> right, so download them as detailed in the info you've just been given
[17:38] <gebruiker> ikonia: i am looking for an automated way ( obviously )
[17:39] <ikonia> talk to google then
[17:39] <ikonia> they are the ones that maintain their packages and api
[17:42] <gerry_dublin> has 17.04's kernel version been decided yet?
[17:44] <TechMonger> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[17:44] <TechMonger> hello
[17:45] <TechMonger> i am folowing this guid and i am not sure how to change the directory to my raid1 drives md0
[17:46] <gruven> yay! I'm now powered by Ubuntu 16.04 w/Unity 7.4.0 dual boot on my Mac. What took me so long
[17:46] <TechMonger> gratz
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> gruven: on wich mac type did you succeed?
[17:47] <gerry_dublin> which version mac and was it tricky to do?
[17:48] <gruven> lotuspsycheje, an iMac
[17:49] <ikonia> TechMonger: what do you mean you don't know how to change directoy to your raid device ?
[17:51] <TechMonger> do i just change that line in the conf file under [share] and make a samba dir in my raid?
[17:53] <TechMonger> ikonia,
[17:53] <[_]`> hey, i just had a crazy idea. can i use my mic port as headphone port instead? googling seems to suggest yes but i cant dig up the details. any clue?
[17:53] <ikonia> TechMonger: the directory directive states the file system
[17:53] <ikonia> [_]`: it will depend on the hardware, but general rule "no"
[17:53] <ikonia> I have no idea why you would want to do that
[17:53] <[_]`> ahh, my audio jack isn't working properly thats why :(
[17:54] <TechMonger> ikonia, i have two 300gig drives in a raid1 and i have a 64gig flash drive that i have the OS on
[17:54] <ikonia> so ?
[17:54] <TechMonger> ikonia, i want the samba server to be on the raid
[17:55] <ikonia> right, I've just told you what to do
[17:56] <TechMonger> ikonia, i dont understand what you said
[17:56] <ikonia> under the share, set the parameter "path"
[17:56] <TechMonger> and then point that to the mounted raid dir?
[17:57] <ikonia> point it at whatever file system you want
[17:57] <TechMonger> ok
[17:57] <TechMonger> thx
[18:05] <Guest23876> hello
[18:07] <gabot_> 9
[18:12] <hhee> guys, which disk record tool with gui - available in ubuntu (unity) ?
[18:13] <Azusss> you can use brasero
[18:13] <Azusss> you must install it
[18:17] <testingUbuntu> how to install libc++abi in 16.10?
[18:17] <chowder> hi there! I'm looking for some desktop toys for the standard Ubuntu desktop running Gnome. I basically want a little cat that runs along my windows. I know its silly but I need that cat.
[18:17] <hhee> Azusss, thx!
[18:18] <Sean_McG> testingUbuntu: apt-get install libc++abi1
[18:18] <Sean_McG> testingUbuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/libc++abi1
[18:22] <hhee> guys, any way to lock to left panel some directory to quick access to it? unity desktop
[18:24] <BloqueNegro> hi @all :) i want to get away from debian towards ubuntu + gnome3
[18:24] <ikonia> ok ?
[18:24] <BloqueNegro> best way to archive that?
[18:24] <ikonia> install ubuntu with gnome
[18:24] <ikonia> no idea why you'd want to do that over a debian install that will be pretty much the same thing
[18:24] <BloqueNegro> not really
[18:24] <BloqueNegro> packages are much newer :/
[18:24] <ikonia> "not really" ?
[18:24] <ikonia> no they are not
[18:24] <ikonia> the packages are taken from debian
[18:25] <BloqueNegro> afaik the ubuntu repos will contain newer versions thanks to the shorter release cycnle?
[18:25] <ikonia> no they won't
[18:25] <ikonia> as ubuntu takes snapshots of debian to build it's releases
[18:26] <ikonia> so if that where true ubuntu would always be behind debian
[18:32] <Guest50197> Hello is this ubuntu
[18:32] <BloqueNegro> yes
[18:32] <bekks> yes, this is #ubuntu
[18:32] <gabot_> Yes
[18:32] <BloqueNegro> no, this is patrick :>
[18:32] <Sean_McG> hahahah
[18:32] <gabot_> hehehe
[18:33] <Guest50197> Hold on do yall have to do somthing with computers
[18:33] <gabot_> Guys, wich one is the best Graphic Environment
[18:33] <bekks> Guest50197: No. But with Ubuntu support, only.
[18:33] <gabot_> I install ubuntu 16.04 With pantheon
[18:33] <Guest50197> what is ubuntu
[18:33] <bekks> Guest50197: The one you like most, its all about your personal opinion.
[18:34] <Guest50197> oh
[18:34] <bekks> Guest50197: www.ubuntu.com - an operating system.
[18:34] <gabot_> Ubuntu is a Linux distribution.
[18:34] <Guest50197> oh so you are in the terminal
[18:34] <bekks> Guest50197: No.
[18:35] <Guest50197> do you like poptarts?
[18:35] <bekks> Guest50197: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[18:35] <gabot_> The engineers use non-graphic systems.
[18:35] <gabot_> ¿Why?
[18:35] <bekks> gabot_: Ask'em.
[18:35] <Guest50197> oh sorry i need help with downloding
[18:37] <Guest50197> i need help with downloading
[18:37] <hggdh> Guest50197: please be more specific
[18:38] <Guest50197> like on the internet. when i open a file. it sais this file is damaged and cannot be repaired
[18:40] <Guest50197> hello?
[18:41] <gurkha_> hi
[18:45] <Gurkha__> hhhh
[18:45] <Gurkha__> test
[18:48] <Calaris> nano tech
[18:49] <gabot_> ¿How i could "manage" my repositories?
[18:49] <Calaris> see google
[18:49] <bekks> Calaris: What do you want to "manage" at that point?
[18:50] <Calaris> not im bekss
[18:50] <gabot_> Remove/Get repositories.
[18:50] <gabot_> for example.
[18:50] <Calaris> u can get and remove manual
[18:51] <gabot_> apt-get remove "Name of file/repositories"
[18:51] <gabot_> ¿That could work?
[18:51] <Calaris> yes
[18:51] <gabot_> Thanks pal.
[18:51] <BloqueNegro> apt-repository is your friend
[18:52] <gabot_> Recently i installed Kali repositories for pentesting
[18:52] <gabot_> U know, some crazy stuff "mr robot" style.
[18:52] <gabot_> im trying to get some tools.
[18:52] <gabot_> (No worries, i will not hack FBI or NASA)
[18:52] <gabot_> I dont want to go jail
[18:53] <Sean_McG> I haven't checked out that show yet (Mr. Robot)... is it any good?
[18:53] <gabot_> Yes it is good
[18:53] <gabot_> Im in the second season.
[18:54] <gabot_> There is a lot of Philosophical hacktivist/Linux user
[18:54] <gabot_> stuff
[18:54] <gabot_> and the main character is awesome.
[18:55] <zergut> G'day
[18:55] <zergut> how to check version in terminal?
[18:55] <tomreyn> zergut: version of what?
[18:55] <zergut> ubuntu
[18:56] <tomreyn> lsb_release -d
[18:56] <zergut> thank you
[18:56] <tomreyn> welcome
[19:06] <BloqueNegro> where can i check what's the latest version if keepassx in ubuntu 16.10 without having it installed?
[19:07] <Sean_McG> apt-cache search keepassx
[19:07] <BloqueNegro> no no
[19:07] <BloqueNegro> i don't have ubuntu installed ;)
[19:07] <BloqueNegro> just found packages.ubuntu.com
[19:07] <Sean_McG> packages.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <BloqueNegro> rubber duck programming seems more and more appealing to me
[19:08] <BloqueNegro> wonder why :>
[19:09] <Seveas> BloqueNegro: https://youtu.be/Fc5T06SsnkA
[19:16] <DVA5912> I've been trying to do some research. But im not finding anything on the subject. Planning out a new server build. Going to be installing Greylog and Fail2Ban on the same server. Should there be any inherent issues between the two? I know fail2ban looks at the logs, and if im forwarding the logs to my greylog server i cant shake the feeling that fail2ban will have nothing to go off.. anyone else have a setup like this?
[19:16] <Sean_McG> what do I put in debian/control to make a package mutually-exclusive with another package?
[19:26] <willpwr> Hi everyone i'm beginning user of linux. Starting to learn terminal and commands.Who wants to join me write a private message!
[19:29] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | willpwr
[19:31] <Seveas> DVA5912: as long as syslog writes to both local disk and greylog, should be all fine.
[19:38] <DVA5912> Seveas: is there any way to ensure that?
[19:42] <uxfi> hi
[19:42] <uxfi> what is a good CLI pastebin tool?
[19:43] <Bashing-om> ux
[19:43] <uxfi> hm?
[19:44] <Bashing-om> uxfi: pastebinit ? or perhpas termbin ?
[19:45] <uxfi> Bashing-om; oh I've seen termbin is pastebinit good?
[19:45] <Bashing-om> !pastebinit
[19:45] <uxfi> thanks
[19:46] <uxfi> Bashing-om;  :)
[19:47] <Phanes> is anybody using LXD?  I'm not finding many answers on custom image creation
[19:47] <Bashing-om> uxfi: :) .. All for 1 and one for all .
[19:47] <uxfi> haha
[19:48] <uxfi> Bashing-om;  is there a way to make it non paste.ubuntu and to go to pastebin?
[19:48] <uxfi>  iguess this is ok too though
[19:49] <Phanes> man pastebinit
[19:49] <uxfi> ok
[19:50] <uxfi> im dumb hah Phanes  "[pastebin url] (default is distro-specific with a fallback to
[19:50] <uxfi>        pastebin.com)"
[19:50] <uxfi> forgot to add that
[19:50] <Bashing-om> uxfi: What is it that you are doing ? pastebinit is pretty flexable .
[19:51] <uxfi> Bashing-om;  it keeps giving me a Ubuntu paste link whilst I want it to be pastebin only
[19:51] <uxfi> I guess I need to add the -b before my paste?
[19:51] <marsival> anyone with some wine knowledge maybe can answer or at least try and predict the compatibility of something for me?
[19:51] <Sean_McG> I bet there is a configuration file it uses for defaults
[19:51] <Phanes> marsival, check out the wine database
[19:51] <uxfi> good point Sean_McG
[19:51] <Phanes> there's a public database of compatibility tests
[19:52] <marsival> eh yeah but this is fairly new and not even remotely close to being on there yet. but I know there are supposed to be ways normally to kinda make a best guess to it
[19:52] <Phanes> marsival, https://appdb.winehq.org
[19:52] <uxfi> doesnt seem to work
[19:53] <Bashing-om> uxfi: No, I think pastebinit is dedicated as "ubuntu" . other releass also have their own sites .
[19:54] <Phanes> Bashing-om, it's in the first line of the dang manpage
[19:54] <uxfi> Bashing-om; gotcha
[19:54] <marsival> I searched there before and it's not on there yet. Just wanted to know if there might be a predictable conflict before trying it myself
[19:54] <uxfi> that works
[19:54] <Phanes> Bashing-om, stop giving people inaccurate and unresearched advice
[19:55] <Phanes> marsival, try and see.  check out #wine if you get stuck, they'll have deeper knowledge of troubleshooting the wine RTE
[19:55] <uxfi> Bashing-om;  ah you're right "Optional arguments (not supported by all pastebins):"
[19:55] <uxfi> so technically the pastebin "-b" added to the argument could not be supproted
[19:55] <uxfi> interesting
[19:57] <ubuntu053> anybody know if the new samsung 960 evo/pro nvme hard drives are supported by the linux driver?
[19:59] <Bashing-om> uxfi: 'pastebinit -l ' says there are a numner of options .
[20:00] <uxfi> Bashing-om; I see I tried -b it didnt seem to work and didnt give me a pastebin url
[20:00] <uxfi> I've tried that actaully..
[20:02] <Bashing-om> uxfi: Be amazed at what I do not know , but I read that with the -b option you supply the target URL for the redirection .
[20:02] <ben__> can someone help me with upgrading my current Ubuntu 14.10?
[20:03] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[20:04] <uxfi> Bashing-om;  hm I did that didnt seem to work (/directory.txt | pastebin it -b)
[20:04] <DVA5912> That moment when your doing research on different methods of data storage and 5 different websites all state the same thing in just about the same format... Google you have failed me..
[20:05] <ioria> ben__, are you really using utopic ?
[20:07] <DaisyLee> Has anyone ordered from system76? Thinking of picking up a laptop from there.
[20:08] <DVA5912> Can someone explain this to me? Reading on all the forums and the difference that everyone is talking about between LVM and Raid is that LVM can add disks on the fly... But in order to do that, even if the bios supports it wouldnt you have to modify the raid first and then use LVM to modify the partition mappings?
[20:08] <bekks> DaisyLee: Better ask in ##hardware :)
[20:09] <uxfi> hi bekks
[20:09] <bekks> hi uxfi
[20:09] <Bashing-om> uxfi: Something like ' cat /directory.txt | pastebinit -b 104.20.63.56 ' maybe ??
[20:09] <DVA5912> is LVM for adding physical disks after the fact? so if you have your system setup, instead of doing the right thing and modifying your raid to add the disk, quick add it to LVM and get it working? seems really hackish
[20:10] <uxfi> Bashing-om;  I tried that too. Let me give it a go again
[20:10] <uxfi> invalid argument Bashing-om  heh
[20:11] <display_name321[> yo
[20:11] <Bashing-om> uxfi: This assumes that directory.tx is in the direct path of root "/" ; are you certain of the file location ?
[20:12] <uxfi> Bashing-om; actaully I jsut wanted to upload my auth logs /var/logs/auth.log so nto a txt file per se
[20:12] <Jordan_U> DVA5912: You don't need to use RAID to use LVM.
[20:13] <DVA5912> Jordan_U: I want the redundancy it provides
[20:13] <erpo> I'm trying to build the zoneminder packages from source by running the script at https://github.com/ZoneMinder/ZoneMinder/blob/master/utils/do_debian_package.sh. Specifically, I'm running ./do_debian_package.sh xenial 2016112701 local master, and it does build a deb package. However, the patches inside the debian/patches directory inside the source tree are *not* being applied prior to compilation and the creation of the package. Would someone
[20:13] <erpo> familiar with building debian packages give that script a try and tell me if they get the same result?
[20:14] <ioria> uxfi upload where ?
[20:14] <DVA5912> Jordan_U: but aside from the redundancy is there any other real reason to stack LVM and Raid together
[20:15] <Jordan_U> DVA5912: As opposed to using RAID but not using LVM you mean?
[20:15] <DVA5912> Jordan_U: yes
[20:16] <DVA5912> Jordan_U: because it feels like just another pof
[20:17] <Jordan_U> DVA5912: Well, I assume that you will want at least two volumes on your array, the volume containing your root filesystem, and the volume containing swap. You could make two partitions on each of the member drives and end up having two arrays, or you could just have one array with LVM on top. If you go with the latter you can easily resize your swap or get rid of it if you want more space for your root
[20:17] <Jordan_U> filesystem.
[20:19] <Jordan_U> DVA5912: Another solution to that problem would be to add a partition table on top of the array. That would work, but 1: People often get confused when there are nested partition tables and 2: LVM is more flexible than a partition table while not incurring any performance penalty (unless you use features like snapshots, which you can simply choose not to do).
[20:21] <DVA5912> Jordan_U: So this is really looking to boil down to simplicity. I agree, putting a patition table on top of raid could become confusing for the next sysadmin. You are the first one to actualy make this seem clearer, Thank you!
[20:22] <Jordan_U> DVA5912: You're welcome.
[20:26] <cold_zero> msg identify nickserv
[20:27] <ubuntu_user> how can I make it so network interfaces are not put up at boot?
[20:30] <Wulf> ubuntu_user: add them to /etc/network/interfaces with "manual"
[20:32] <ubuntu_user> Wulf: in what format?
[20:32] <Wulf> ubuntu_user: iface blah inet manual
[20:39] <ubuntu_user> Wulf: it didn't work :/ . I have 3 interfaces, two are managed by wicd, those two were up at boot, the one not managed wasn't
[20:40] <ubuntu_user> Wulf: that's something with wicd putting them up?
[20:40] <Wulf> ubuntu_user: I guess so. I don't know how to keep wicd from doing it
[20:46] <ben__> my problem here is that "sudo do-release-upgrade" just says that there are no current releases which is clearly not the case
[20:47] <ioria> ben__, grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[20:48] <xangua> ben__: what release are you using?
[20:49] <ioria> ben__, 14.10 is gone, 15.04 is gone, 15.10 is gone ... so you should jump to 16.04 ... not a good jump, if you ask me
[20:50] <ben__> 14.10
[20:51] <ben__> why  @ioria
[20:51] <ioria> ben__, you are on upstart, 16.04 system for starter
[20:51] <ioria> *systemd
[20:52] <ioria> ben__, grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades      what's the output ?
[20:54] <mate_> exit
[20:57] <CRCurself> Hello. How can I check which routing daemon is being used on my system?
[20:58] <bekks> CRCurself: whats the issue behind that question?
[20:58] <andrea1994> Hi
[20:58] <andrea1994> what is ubuntu-meeting channel?
[20:58] <andrea1994> what is meetology?
[20:59] <CRCurself> I am reading about dynamic routing and routed/gated daemons. I want to make sure the information I'm reading is relevant to the system I'm using.
[20:59] <CRCurself> Because it said routed/gated are common daemons found in most TCP/IP implementations, want to verify it's part of mine as well.
[21:01] <CRCurself> I may be framing my question improperly, so basic guidance would be very helpful at this point.
[21:04] <Seveas> andrea1994: #ubuntu-meeting is where certain Ubuntu communitu teams hold their IRC-based meetings. meetingology is a utility bot that helps with logging the meetings.
[21:05] <Seveas> CRCurself: unless you set one up, no routing daemon will be in use. By default you only have a default route to your router.
[21:11] <jatt> !info quagga | CRCurself
[21:13] <CRCurself> I'm aware of that one, thanks. It actually appears I lack a basic understanding of what a daemon is, so I'm reading up on that. Thanks for the responses nonetheless.
[21:17] <xangua> Hello everyone, just installed 16.04 and security updates, after suspend and trying to resume the screen is black
[21:31] <gcollura> #join #ubuntu-app-devel
[21:37] <pseudo_> Anyone have a MBP With AMD R9/Intel graphics? And if so, did you find a way to make vga_switcheroo actually work ?
[21:39] <ben__> > grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades      what's the output ?
[21:40] <ben__> Prompt = lts
[21:43] <BlueProtoman> Strange problem with my laptop's keyboard.  http://bit.ly/2gzO2en  A few keys I have to press harder/a few times in a row for them to register, but then once the key is "active" it responds normally.  The key itself doesn't feel sticky, so might this be a software/driver/BIOS issue?  (Ubuntu 16.04 with the Prema BIOS)
[21:45] <patata> hello, i want to install telegram, i type "sudo apt-get install telegram" but it returns "E: Unable to locate package telegram" what am i doing wrong?
[21:47] <arm1e> Can someone please help me with wifi issues on intel 7260
[21:48] <pseudo_> patata: Ubuntu maintains a repository of software, but not all software on the planet. As a general thing, when software is closed source (i.e. proprietary) they can't/won't ship it. In this case, I'm pretty sure you can download a Ubuntu (debian) package directly from the telegram site
[21:48] <arm1e> there is a snap package for telegram
[21:49] <patata> thanks you pseudo_
[21:50] <patata> arm1e, what is a snap package?
[21:51] <pseudo_> patata: np :) Generally, check if anyone maintains PPA's (Personal Package Archive)'s for what you want - it's basically like extending the software available for install via apt-get. Failing that, try snap packages, Ubuntu's new attempt at letting people make isolated little packages that can be installed onto many linux distributions
[21:53] <arm1e> in terminal type snap find telegram
[21:53] <arm1e> then snap install telegram
[21:53] <arm1e> i think
[21:53] <arm1e> brb
[21:54] <arm1e> sudo snap install telegram-latest
[21:54] <arm1e> Can someone please help me with wifi issues on intel 7260
[22:03] <patata> thank you both, i found and installed it from their website.
[22:09] <arm1e> patata, no problem
[22:11] <mcc> anyone know how to write pure binary code ( 0 , 1 )  and run it  on linux or windos ?
[22:11] <mcc> anyone know how to write pure binary code ( 0 , 1 )  and run it on ubuntu  ?
[22:13] <pseudo_> mcc: That's not exactly how it works
[22:14] <MDTech-us> hello
[22:14] <MDTech-us> so
[22:15] <pseudo_> mcc: Basically. You have programming languages (like C/C++) which are translated from program text (source code) by a program (compiler) into a binary format. Simplifying a few things, that binary format corresponds to assembly instructions, which you *could* write yourself. Assembly instructions vary by chip, so writing the same (logical) code for your phone and PC would differ since the former is probably an ARM and the latter an X86 chip.
[22:15] <Kingsy> Does anyone know if this channel is logged?
[22:15] <squinty> !logs
[22:16] <Kingsy> THANKS
[22:16] <MDTech-us> I currently have Windows installed on a 250GB SSD. I want to get 500GB more and replace Windows with Ubuntu. Can I use some sort of software RAID to combine the 2 drives into one large logical drive?
[22:16] <Kingsy> oops, *thanks
[22:17] <squinty> yw
[22:19] <ubuntu-mate> guys, I'm on a live usb talking to you here. I have installed ubuntu MATE on my laptop, but it is so stuck, it won't load. I've tried boot-repair, and this is what has come up. Can someone help me? New with linux here. http:paste2.org/G45yBOVg
[22:20] <vidy> MDTech-us: you can use lvm to show both drives as a 750gb logical drive but raid with mismatched drives doesn't work too great
[22:20] <kyle01> Can someone help me figure out a problem I'm having with Google Chrome on Ubuntu>
[22:20] <kyle01> ?
[22:20] <bekks> MDTech-us: Using LVM, you can do that. But for the / volume I won't do so, since one broken drive will possibly result in a total loss of data.
[22:20] <ben__> can somebody help me with the EOL Upgrade-problem?
[22:20] <MDTech-us> bekks: well, I'd obviously do backups and stuff
[22:21] <MDTech-us> vidy: in what way does it not work great?
[22:22] <yokisuci> ubuntu-mate: It says that the link doesn't exist. :/
[22:24] <ubuntu-mate> holy cow really. So, I go to install it with the live usb and it takes forever and is having trouble loading. What should I do?
[22:24] <vidy> MDTech-us: traditional raid can only combine partitions the size of the smaller drive.  if you're looking for speed vs redundancy maybe btrfs instead
[22:24] <MDTech-us> vidy: I'm really doing this for the space. nothing else
[22:25] <MDTech-us> vidy: bekks: on the other hand, I can get 2 new 250GB drives and use simple RAID 0
[22:25] <bekks> MDTech-us: Or get one new 500G drive :)
[22:26] <MDTech-us> I have a 250GB drive atm
[22:26] <MDTech-us> and I want to keep it
[22:26] <MDTech-us> so RAID-wise would it be better to get 1 new 500GB drive or 2 new 250GB drives?
[22:26] <vfw> wyth: Hey, how's it going?
[22:28] <Kiwi_Alien> heya
[22:29] <Kiwi_Alien> Im a lil confused over setting up a samba server
[22:29] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: What is it?
[22:30] <vidy> MDTech-us: if you just want the space, lvm the 250/500 and the mismatch doesn't matter.  if you want to raid (of any flavor) then keep them the same size
[22:30] <Kiwi_Alien> I only want to make it accessible on LAN.
[22:30] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: To other MS Windows computers?
[22:30] <MDTech-us> vidy: is there a benefit to using btrfs?
[22:31] <Kiwi_Alien> yes :)
[22:31] <Kiwi_Alien> Its connected to home router
[22:31] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: One directory?
[22:32] <Kiwi_Alien> Yeah, just for everyone. Its to put all out work for uni
[22:32] <MDTech-us> vidy: also, are there any serious performance concerns about the unequal drive sizes?
[22:33] <vidy> MDTech-us: btrfs is raid + lvm + filesystem in a single layer, so yes there are benefits.  but my servers still run lvm :)
[22:33] <MDTech-us> vidy: what is your reasoning behind not using it?
[22:33] <MDTech-us> is it hard to setup?
[22:34] <MDTech-us> buggy?
[22:35] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien cat /etc/samba/smb.conf |nc termbin.com 9999  #Let's look and see.
[22:36] <Auriza> Hello
[22:38] <MDTech-us> vidy: so, to sum it up, should I buy 1 500GB drive or 2 250GB drives?
[22:39] <vidy> MDTech-us: inertia more than anything.  btrfs hasn't been buggy for years
[22:39] <MDTech-us> vidy: oh, I see. looks to be easy to back it up too
[22:40] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: BTW, you do know that you have to restart samba after each config edit, right?
[22:40] <Kiwi_Alien> yes :)
[22:41] <Kiwi_Alien> vfw i have samba working. Now i wish to drop its internet access. Make it LAN only, but still routed to router
[22:43] <vidy> MDTech-us: i'd probably do 2x 250 and run btrfs in metadata raid1 and data raid1.   if you wanted the space you could run data raid0 but make your backups.  if you got a 4th you could migrate to raid10
[22:43] <MDTech-us> can you upgrade to a RAID 10 later on?
[22:44] <Delta_> Hi there
[22:44] <Guest99631> Just want to know how can i setup dead time for system.
[22:44] <vidy> MDTech-us: as long as you have the open blocks for whatever arrangement you can migrate whenever you want, raid0/1/5/6/10.  though i've only used 1 and 10
[22:45] <MDTech-us> oh. cool
[22:45] <MDTech-us> thanks for the help!
[22:46] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: Use hosts alow option
[22:46]  * decco gnome
[22:47] <Kiwi_Alien> thank you vfw
[22:52] <decco> exit
[22:53] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch06.html
[22:54] <Kiwi_Alien> vfw i will read that now. Just booting it up now.. Was going to block server in router
[22:54] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: The choice is yours.
[22:55] <Kiwi_Alien> just finished first year of uni :D to many options for newb :)
[22:56] <vfw> be accessable from the outside anyway.
[22:56] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: But unless you have port forwarding or some sort of tunneling through the router, it's not going to be accessable from the outside anyway.
[22:57] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: However, it's always a good idea to only alow the intended PCs access to your shares.
[22:57] <Kiwi_Alien> this is what im strugling to understand mate
[22:58] <Kiwi_Alien> I thought, if i plug her in to the net its open game for the server
[23:00] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: While it is true that routers connect one network to another, it does not mean that computers outside your router have access to everything on your LAN.
[23:01] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: Google information about IP addresses and netmask.  Your netmask sets how much of an access you have across IPs.
[23:01] <Kiwi_Alien> what do you recomend i read to get a better understanding of connecting a home server on LAN
[23:02] <pjiggy> hi
[23:03] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: Gain a working knowledge of how IP addresses work in relation to the netmask you have set.  (The inside network is totally different from the outside ones.)
[23:03] <mohammad_> ge
[23:04] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: And routers, how to allow traffic in and out of routers, port forwarding and DMZ and tunneling etc. etc. etc.
[23:04] <mohammad_> easy
[23:04] <Kiwi_Alien> ok, thank you for your valuable time sir :)
[23:04] <vfw> Kiwi_Alien: NOP
[23:04] <vfw> NP
[23:05] <uxfi> hey ubuntu fans
[23:22] <jayjo> I can't get through the login screen of ubuntu 16.06, but I can access my machine through a shell. Any ideas why this would happen, or have you heard of this before? I have space in my home directory
[23:22] <jayjo> I can login from the login screen to a tty
[23:22] <jayjo> any ideas on how to fix this?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> jayjo: Update broke a proprietary grahic's driver ? From that terminal what results : ' sudo lshw -C display ' . in the configuration line .
[23:24] <jayjo> Bashing-om: driver=nvidia latency=0
[23:26] <Bashing-om> jayjo: Well that says a driver is loaded . Now do "you" have the rights to access your desktop ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' Are "you" the owner and grouped to these access rights files ?
[23:28] <jayjo> Bashing-om: I own both group and individual
[23:30] <Bashing-om> jayjo: At this point all I know to do is look at X's log file . see if X is in a happy state . ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[23:43] <highwaychile> Hello
[23:45] <highwaychile> How do I tell which partition/volume Ubuntu is on?
[23:46] <vfw> jayjo: What happened?
[23:47] <vfw> highwaychile: sudo fdisk -l
[23:47] <vfw> highwaychile: cat /etc/fstab
[23:47] <vfw> highwaychile: sudo blkid
[23:48] <vfw> highwaychile: df -h
[23:50] <highwaychile> vfw: I meant one Windows (good to know anyway) http://i.imgur.com/NQvCO8d.jpg
[23:50] <highwaychile> *on
[23:51] <vfw> This is #ubuntu, (#windows is down the hall.)   :)
[23:53] <highwaychile> vfw: lol. But do you know what could cause these error messages, warning of too little space in Ubuntu when trying to install things?
[23:53] <vfw> highwaychile: Must be one of your partitions is almost full.
[23:54] <vfw> highwaychile: df -h
[23:54] <vfw> highwaychile: Are you dual boot? Or VirtualBox?
[23:55] <highwaychile> Just strange that a mostly fresh install of Xubuntu would use up 15+ GB
[23:55] <highwaychile> Dual bot
[23:55] <highwaychile> *boot
[23:55] <vfw> 15G is not very much space.
[23:57] <vfw> highwaychile: Look and see. Then use GpartedLIVE to shrink one partition and expand another.  Show us what you have and we can give you some more specific  advise.
[23:57] <vfw> http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[23:58] <highwaychile> vfw: I will exit and try that now, thanks
[23:58] <vfw>  Non-Destructive partitioning tool
[23:58] <vfw> highwaychile: Yea, boot to Ubuntu and get back with us.
[23:58] <vfw> df -h |nc termbin.com 9999  #Show us